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Pura vida, pure vitra, agood life, a pure life. As
we pulled away from the rental caronto a half paved road, I wondered
what was in store for me andmy family for the next six days.
Moments before, as the plane toucheddown, our eyes were drawn to the
shacks and shanties visible from the runway, apparently normal living for this Central American
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country. As we pulled away inour rental car, my thoughts went to
how to protect us in a foreigncountry with no firearm, with no means
to call fellow officers if needed,and a potential language barrier. On top
of it all, not even havingthe basic knife beside me. The next
six days were an adventure. Ofcourse, the hotel grounds were beautiful and
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secure, but day after day weventured to the countryside, to the towns,
to the villages, to the coastlines that made up the heart of
Costa Rica. We truly got toknow the culture and the people, and
as the days passed, I evenforgot that it was the first time since
nine eleven that I was not carryinga firearm to protect me and my family.
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I found myself not on guard.One hundred percent of the time.
Like at home, though some mightcall this part of the world underdeveloped versus
our daily lives and the States,we grew to appreciate the simplicity, the
kindness, and the deeply ingrained moralcompass that guided this nation. Pura vida,
they would say everywhere we went,and I began to realize that in
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many regards it was everything we nolonger were in America for those six days.
For those six days, we neveronce were approached by any one for
a handout, not a single personbegging for money, none, never How
many times can you say that onyour daily drive around Columbus Every day I
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would flip through the daily news athome, and each day multiple shootings in
crime filled the news feed. Butduring those six days, myself and my
family never once felt unsecure, noteven close. The hard working, god
fearing people of this country might nothave had the material wealth, but in
many regards they were much richer thanour country today. They were polite,
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courteous. Heck, I even lostcount how many times people flashed their lights
let me in to merge onto theirroads, the roads, oftentimes with no
center lines or edge lines. Thingswere just different. At the coffee plantation
tour, we really got a senseof the work ethic and the pride of
this culture. The plantation was overa hundred years old and still operating as
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it did at the turn of thecentury. During the harvest, they have
to bring in migrant workers from Nicaraguato fill spots for those months, and
our guide smiled and commented that theCosta Ricans were less productive or lazier than
their neighbors to the north during thoseharvest times. I politely raised my hand
and said, you ain't seen nothingbut laziness come to my country, But
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sadly it's true. Unbelievably, forthat week, we let our guard down
and felt like we once did inColumbus, relaxed, truly, not a
care in the world, focusing onfamily and what was important. As we
made the journey home on Tuesday,I don't know if I was more sad
to leave or dreaded going back towhat we've become. A self centered,
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lazy, godless, egotistical, lackingmorals and riddled with crime and thugs,
where good is now evil and badis held up high. Where the harder
you work, the more you haveto give to have handed out to the
lazy where you're persecuted for not callinga person by their flipping pronoun or shamed
into allowing a grown man to peein the ladies room. Let me tell
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you there was none of that crapdown. There was really a sickening feeling
knowing that for being a shining lightfor the world, we've really have lost
much of that brightness. It's reallysad. Since returning a few days ago,
I had someone try and engage mein road raids just down the street
from the store. I lost countas to how many times people had their
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hand out alongside of me at theroads and that stopped at lights and topping
our news is this the indictment ofa former president, the imprisonment of a
law enforcement officer right here in thecity, and alerts on multiple high dollar
thefts from retail stores around US andbolden thugs simply walking out the front door
with thousands of dollars in merchandise athand. In our answer to put us
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back on track, some states arenow allowing non US citizens to become law
enforcement officers. Man, what aweek. I'm not sure what inspiration I
have for even myself this week,other than the drive to keep fighting for
what is right and the truth.It's the little battles we must start winning
at the poles in our communities.Get inspired, if for no other reason
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than for your children, or getrand children. Do not allow them to
grow up in a country we seetoday, and commit to doing your part
to turning it around. Our countryhas faced obstacles before in past generations.
But guys, this is our fightand we must be prepared for the battle
ahead. Good afternoon, welcome toTarget Broadcasting live from the studio's VLPD Firearms
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Range and training facility. We arelocated Beth Road. I'm your host and
also one of the owners here atthe store. Guys, is good to
be back live sitting with you.It's good to see you. I know
j C by the way too.There you go, it's good to be
back live. Goods you guys,yep, good to see everyone. And
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looks like you got a little bitof sun. I did get a little
bit of sun. Yeah. Didyou get some relaxation? And we really
did. It was an amazing place. It really was. So if I
asked your wife she would agree withit. I think so. Yeah,
it looked relaxed at the right becauseyou're fully didn't work out there. Oh
no, it worked. It worked. I was getting all kinds of texts
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and stuff, you know, Butit was I mean the landscape it was
tropical, so high, high humidityevery day, but that's what they were
used to. It was funny becausesome of the natives there would say,
this is high humidity. It washumidity every day in the eighties, but
that's just how it was. Anduh but I mean really a magnificent place
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we saw. I mean we werewe you pull off alongside the road,
we were feeding monkeys, we sawa sloth. I mean just it's just
incredible, crocodiles, I mean itwas. It was really really neat.
So you'd recommend the trip to somebodyelse. It was. It's not for
everyone, though, I mean itwas you know, you're definitely in another
country and you're you know, outthere, but it, man, we
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just we were amazed at how securewe felt. I mean we were out
venturing around some of these small townsand never once, never once had someone
stick their hand out for money orany issues at all. Wonderful. Yeah,
good, good, good, hardworld. And that's the third world
country. I mean, just thinkabout what we have now and where we're
going. Yeah. On a sidenote, the only the only negative.
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And I don't know if this isa negative, but this is the only
thing that I was kind of takethem back on. And I was telling
this story this morning to one ofour workers. They had tour buses you
would see on the road, bigcoach buses, and oftentimes they were marked,
you know, tour bus or whatever. And there was one place we
kept going by where there were severaltour buses. You would always see there
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unmarked, big buses. And therewas one day we had a tour guide
with us and I said, hey, what's the deal with all these buses.
He's like, the Costa Rican governmentpays to have migrants from Venezuela who
come to the southern borders of CostaRica. They pay to have them go
on a bus and they zip themthrough the country to the northern border and
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let them out faster way to theUS, a faster way to the US,
basically washing our hands of it.Not our problem, what little costs
it is to their government. Theyput them on the bus, they know
they have one or two stops,zip them through their country, not my
problem, send them up North.But that's what's going on. I mean,
I'm good, Yeah, we needto keep him going north. Guys.
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We are the owners of LPD FirearmsRange and Training Facility, interactive in
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responsible ownership of fire ups. Youknow what's speaking one more last thing
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about about the people of Costa Ricaand about how much different is I come
back to this little note here,ed Well, I would read this on
here because this is fan mail.I mean, someone would call this fan
mail other than the soob doesn't puta return address on it. It just
goes the show, doesn't sign it, but has a couple of choice words
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for us, and I think he'sa fan honestly, but a couple of
choice words. That's an F wordthere, this and that. That's what
we come back to. That craplike that, that's that's probably that's probably
from the same people in that magazinearticle. Or that newspaper article. No,
I think this is a legit personhere. I think it's from the
same the same people though, whoknows. The guys, we got a
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lot to cover today. We're goingto spend some time on news, actually
a lot of time on news sincewe've haven't had JC for a couple of
weeks and Jac's but I've talked toyou the last couple of weeks and oh
my word, we need to startrecording those calls and putting it on podcasts.
At the bottom of the hour,though, we're gonna talk about some
really really neat guns for Guns ofthe Week. There's been probably two,
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three or four different ones that havecome in that are getting a lot of
attention. They're actually here for sale, and so we wanted to highlight them
and talk about them. So we'llget to that. And then at twelve
thirty FOP executive vice President, agood friend of our, sergeant Bryan Steel,
is calling in. He's going togive us the update on the officer
that was injured in this shooting onI seventy a couple of weeks ago,
and also give us an update onthe indictment this week of THECPD officer.
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You're not gonna want to miss that. That is at twelve thirty. I'd
like to thank our sponsors, Jackson, Egress, Windows, Black Wing Shooting
Center, Rivers's Cutlery, CNS Engraving, and of course LPD Training Facility,
all who make the show possible eachweek. Joining me today. We have
no Chuck Douglas, he's taken abreak this week, but we have Jac
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back here with us. Jac,welcome back to the big city. It's
it's I would say, it's it'swonderful back and see you guys. But
I'll tell you the same thing whereI was before. It was up in
the woods. I didn't even thinkabout carrying except at night when I hiked,
because they have bears and they havesome mountain lions and some bobcats that
are around, and you know,you never know, but so I don't
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carry it at all. I don'teven think about it up there. And
as soon as I get into thecar, as soon as I made my
first stop outside of Ohio, loadedup three firearms, got everything going,
and you know, looking around asI'm I'm loading my car at night,
you know, making sure I'm lookingaround as I'm taking get my trash out.
Um, it's just I just don'tlike it. What has happened to
this to the city. It's justcoming unfortunately, like some of the other
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big democratic cities where and You've saidthis awful times because you've had the opportunity
to travel outside the city and thencome back in and say, man,
what a difference. And for me, it's been a long time since I've
been in a place like I waslast week, and it just it just
slapped me in the face. I'mlike, holy macrel, we are we
are messed up here. It reallyis messed up. And when you're in
it every day, I don't thinkyou see it as much as when you
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leave and you come back and it'sit is crazy to my right, Edward
big ed right there, I'm gonnaI'm gonna be working with your son this
week again. Uh huh. Ilike him. I like the kid.
Good. Yeah, so good tosee you back here and be back yep,
guys, Chicago, they what yougot there. Ed eighteen hundred and
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fifty shot so far this year,one hundred and fifty shot in the past
two weeks. Let's go with threehundred and eighty nine homicides this year.
But don't worry about it. Don'tworry about it. They got a better
idea in Chicago. That's what thosetough gun laws for you. No bail,
Yes, and they're the ones.Now you don't have to be a
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US citizen to be an officer.So can you imagine that a non US
citizen going and slapping the cuffs ona US citizenizen. Hey, they got
a better idea. That's what hestands for. Cartel or police gave you
the judge. Well, talk aboutnonsense. Now this You know a lot
of this stuff comes and goes andwill never see the light of day.
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But there was a US senator whoproposed something this week. Did you see
this where he wanted a bill toserialize every bullet, every bullet, every
every individual bullet, even I meanthe intellect. Did you look at him?
Yeah, I hate to say,just the same guy. I was
worried about the island tipping the bestbuddies though, it's just the intellect of
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these people that we put up there. I mean, shouldn't we be electing
the best and brightest to run thecountry. He's a congressman who thinks that
if we put the all the militaryand word under the island the island.
I mean this is for real.I mean this is not made up.
No getting. This guy that wrotethis letter probably from the same kind of
group of people with this guy needsto learn how to spell. And if
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you if you can have what hewrote here. And he said about calling,
he's got a W for an endand I can't pronounce I can't say
the other word because it's a badword, but it ends with IWG instead
I n G. If you're getting, it's probably kid. We're glad that
they're listening. And he did makeone good point, which is sometimes when
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we talk about firearms, we forgetto mention the caliber. That's what he
started out with. I didn't goback and listen, but ow I know
anytime you're taking spelling lessons from BigEd's gotta be you know you got problems,
Jase. Let's since we are upagainst a break here, let's jump
to a quick break and then whenwe come back, we'll just dive into
news. Okay, all right,guys, we're gonna jump to a quick
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break. We're on target. We'rebreadcasting a live from the students of LPD
Firearms and Range we're back right afterthe break, Billy Joel, h you're
gonna be there, tight edge negative. I have to go to Logan to
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pick up my camper and find mywife and her sister. They went down
there for the big Foot festival andthey're both missing. Is that his bad
finger? Wow? As long asmy campers Okay, I'm hoping I get
back here and it's all in onepiece and then I'll just come home.
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Yeah. Perfect. I'll let thepolice finder we had during the breakas I've
had a good friend of mine whoused to be in politics here locally.
Who should be in politics here locallyagain? He said, Thought for the
Day. Listen to this, JC, Thought for the Day. Joseph Stalin
once said, who votes doesn't determineelections. Who counts the votes determines the
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election professionally. There's probably truth inthat, JC. It's it's all you
for news, all right. Imean we start off with some good news.
I mean it's that we're just underattack by everyone. It seems to
be increasing. But here's a goodnews. The Fifth Circuit Court said that
Biden's pistol brace ban was on lawfuland this is the big one. They
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said, the ATF broke the lawwhen they when the rule was there requiring
the destructure or registration of guns withpistol braces. So they just handed this
down on Tuesday, so it's freshnews. Um. The panel found that
the ATF exceeded it's a already intrying to reclassify braced guns under the subject
of a greater regulation for federal law. They determined that the agency had illegally
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crossed the line. I wonder whatpenalty they're gonna get, huh in Biden's
little regime thing. Going the finalrule, they said, effects individuals rights,
speaks with the force of law,and significantly implicates a private interest.
Thus it is legislative in character.And here we have bureaucrats who are deciding
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that millions of Americans are now felons. Think about that. That doesn't make
the big news, but millions ofAmericans felons if this would have been upheld.
I love these what they said.And they were looking at this going,
you know, the look just ridiculous. The ATF was unable to even
estimate the number of possessors of suchfirearms that used either of these methods to
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comply with the final rule. Andthey have no data currently available as to
the number of fire arms that haveeven been abandoned to the ATF, because
one of the things was, oh, you could turn it back in letter
you have account of the ones thatwere turned in. But they said,
regardless of the low compliance rate,which it is really really really low,
of the people that actually turned thesethings in, they said, under the
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final rule, it is now impossiblefor a regular citizen to determine what constitutes
a brace pistol and outside of thesixty contemporaneous adjudications at the ATF release of
sixty of the adjudications that were releasedby the ATF, whether a specified brace
pistol requires NFA registration and in particularrequirements that involve analysis of third party's actions
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such as manufacturers, direct or indirectmarketing and promotional materials. They said,
this information demonstrating the likely use ofthe weapons in general community would hold citizens
criminally liable for the actions of otherswho are unknown, fil editor uncontrolled by
the person that owns the firearm.UH and they noted that I love this
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one, they said. In thepanel further castigated the ATF for arguing that
the rule does not necessarily reclassify allbraced guns. And they said, well,
they noted that the agency didn't providea single example of a brace gun
that would not be considered a felonyunder this rule. So they just threw
it out. They're they're they're makinglegislation as a bureaucrat. So anyway,
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so what But it's not the fine. I mean, that's it's not like
it's done done right unless they tryto go back and go through Congress.
I mean what they're saying is ifit's going to be an NFA item and
needs to go through Congress, Imean that's it now. Yeah, until
it would go through Congress and thenthey would come up with some other but
we haven't seen. It's not likepeople are arresting to put arm braces back
on, or we can't say,go ahead and put your arm brace back.
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Just did Texas to start and sellingthem. They went out and start
selling them again because they're the judgeSettle judge down there said this is bogus.
So I think that's where it's headed. I think it's a really really
big win. Now. The badnews, okay, um, a federal
judge has upheld Connecticut's assault weapon quotequote, because I didn't really define what
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that is. The assault weapon bandand the large capacity magazine ban so um
this they said the Second Amendment clearly, they said the Second Amendment does not
protect AAR fifteens and ammunition magazines capableof holding more than ten rounds. The
female judge appointed by Bill Clinton,hold on, hold on, hold on,
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Yes, who said ten rounds wasokay? Versus twenty rounds? They're
just telling you what isn't okay?So I understand that. So who said
ten rounds was okay? It wasn'tme. I don't think it was any
of our audience. I mean,if holding on and say it's ten rounds,
who authorized ten rounds? Yeah,it just has been. They pulled
it out of the air, thatwas it. But it's been the least
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they've they've kept that, okay.So the was Janet bond Arton. As
I mentioned Clinton pointy, she denieda motion for pulmonary injunction against the State
of Connecticut's being and she did soas I mentioned there, But she said
she determined the Air fifteenth and similarrifles and large capacity magazines are not really
protected by the Constitution. So theplaintiffs, the ones who won the case,
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just said the proposed ownership is notprotected by the Second Amendment because they
have not demonstrated that a specific assaultweapon or large capacity magazine as a commonly
get This is they commonly sought out, purchased and used for self defense.
This is what they And she wentshe bought that. She said, so,
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oh, well, these really aren'taren't commonly sought out, purchased are
used for self defense. This iswhat she wrote, in the absence of
persuasive evidence that the assault weapons ofBEAN and lc ms, the large capacity
magazines listed are commonly used for selfdefense. Then you know we've they've failed
to have their burden completed. ThenI'm going to stand up with it.
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And here's what she ruled. Bythe way, five federal judges now have
agreed and have ruled that you canban AAR fifteen similar weapons and large capacity
of magazines. That's five federal judges. Several have gone in the opposite direction
and said no, this is thisis unconstitutional to ban those. But so
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now we've got this this split decision. This judge also used kind of the
analysis of Connecticut's law where they well, pardon me, what's Organ's law because
Organs was upheld. Also the magazineban, and both the rulings focused on
the so called use test established bythe Supreme Court. But they used it.
But it doesn't make rules sense becausethey used it in the fact that
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these aren't commonly used and are notused in the self defense. They don't
talk about just the ownership of guns. What's what's the constitution? That constitution
didn't say you bear arms for selfdefense. It doesn't say that it just
has the right to bear arms.But we got a time, yeah,
okay, okay, So they limitedthe evidence to hold more than ten rounds
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as being you don't really need morethan that, and the people that do
are more proune, they're more proneto use these commonly for crime and mass
shootings. So that is what shesaid. She used the terms that the
military career, military characteristics are that'swhat attracting the folks more than the self
defense, and they're often more usedin crimes and mass shootings. And therefore
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this is what this is what she'ssaying. So this is a really kind
of unprecedented And she said, evenif it was upheld that they were okay,
it's okay for loquels to restrict them, because she went back using the
test of time that the Supreme Courtcame up with in the Ruin. She
went back to mid to late nineteenthcentury restrictions on the carrying of weapons like
bowie knives and and small pistols thatwere fired with percussion caps. Like she
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said, there, wow, soso JC and we need to jump to
the bottom of the hour news.But next week we're gonna talk stats because
time and time again we see storieslike that where the judges rule on something
that oh rs are used and allthese mass shootings and it simply is not
true. So next week, there'sa promo to next week we're gonna talk
a little bit about stats and factsand kind of put it out there like
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we do from time to time.Guys. Let's jump to the bottom of
the hour news and we come back. We're going to talk to our good
friend Sergeant Brian Steele of the FOPLodge number nine. We're on Target broadcasting
live from the studios of LPD FarmsRange. We'll be back right after the
break. Welcome back to on Target. I'm your host, Eric Joint Today
in the LAPD studios I have bigHead to my right, JC to my
left. More importantly, though,I have executive VP of FOP Lives number
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nine. Are good friend, SergeantBrian Steele on the line with us.
Thanks so much, Bride for wakingup early today and giving us a call.
We're good to talk to you,but I would disagree. I'm more
important than guys you just mentioned.I know you are, and you know
what, and I'm gonna be quiettoday too. But you have so much
so must information. I've been gonefor a while and I want to hear.
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I mean, you're always you alwayshave your thumb on the pulse of
everything law enforcement related here locally.Uh, First and foremost tell us about
how the officers doing. Who wasinjured a few weeks ago, so the
officers still long road to recovery.He's been released in hospital, he's a
rehab he's going to be there forstuffle months, and you know, we're
just keep praying for him and keeppulling for him, and we let the
family know that anything they need,they're both as sisters are with them.
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That's great, is there? Didyou? I know you the FOP Lives
number nine was orchestrating a fundraiser.Has that happened yet, it's still going
on. There's actually there's an eventtoday at the FOP Lodge sixty one hundred
truck Hill Court up on the NorthEnd. Feel free to come by,
bring your family and friends and we'regonna have a good day. We're gonna
have bounce house, face painting forthe kids, stuff like that. So
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we're looking for a good turnout.Great, great, great. I'm sorry
I'm gonna miss that one. Stuff. I'll be down. I'll be down
at the stadium this afternoon. ButI'm sure that will be a good event.
So, Brian, this week alot going on here locally, and
probably the biggest thing was the indictmentof Ricky Anderson. Tell us a little
bit about that. What was thelatest on that in your thoughts? So
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I can tell you there's been someskepticism over it, starting with the family
attorney of Donothan Lewis. He flatout came and said the link of time
it took to have this indictment showssome distrust in the process. I cannot
agree more. It's important to yourreaders know what the grand jury does.
It does not determine innocence of guilt. It's simply state, is there a
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good enough reason to bring the peonycharges against a person, And it's designed
to help state with a fair accusation. Unfortunately, with this Prosecures office,
with Taia's office, they keep changingthe terms of how they do it.
They keep moving the goal line.They're trying to fit a narrative, they
take an end product to indict itall officer and just kind of craft the
system around that. And it's definitelylosing trust and confidence from us absolutely.
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I mean when you can't when youdon't know what the process is. And
I think one of the things,and for those not in law enforcement are
not really in tune with the legalsystem, they immediately think an indictment is
I mean, that's one step belowa guilt guilty verdict and it's anything.
But one of the things that Ithink a lot of people don't realize is
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there's no opportunity for the defense tocross examine. There's nothing. It is
simply the prosecutor and whatever they chooseto put in front of the grand jury
that goes before them, so asyou can see how you know, one
sided that can be. And Ijust feel like in a lot of these
cases, at least here locally,that that's exactly what we're getting. That's
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we're getting recently. We never hadthis before. For the last four years,
there has been a process of sendingthe officer of off shooting to a
grand jury, and we never hadthat because it was a fair firm and
a partial grand jury. If youlook back at my past statements or past
tweets, I've never ever attacked thegrand grand jury process. It is a
very sacred process. But we're veryfrustrated about how it's currently being run now.
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For example, the officer is notallowed to testify anymore. The prosecutor
Kayak is using special prosecutors, andhe's not using use of force experts.
He's using the so called higher gun, so he'll find someone in another state
that's willing to come in and saythings to disparage the officers tactics. There's
also a backlog in these cases,and listeners got to remember justice is and
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a justice is an outcome. Justiceis a process. We have to ensure
a fair firm and a partial process, and you know to the grand jury
process. You know, there wasa famous line I think Jesus goes back
in nineteen eighty five, and itwas a Supreme Court justice from in New
York and at the time he said, Hey, any good prosecutor can get
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a grand jury to indict a hamSandwich. And the intent of that was
to show that it truly is nota you know, doesn't point towards the
guilt, and it can be sucha one sided um event. And here
locally it's even gotten worse. Iwould, you know, I would stay
truly, but not to allow anofficer to even testify and just you're just
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hearing whatever the crap they want tothrow out there. Yeah, and I
think you know, Brian, youcan We're talking to Sergeant Brian Stele the
FOP lives number nine, and Ithink you can, you know, chime
in on this. We all wantjustice, and I don't you know,
whether we're in law enforcement or not, if there is something an officer did
that they need to be held recountablefor, I'm for that. I think
we all are. I think whatfrustrates us is, like you mentioned,
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this process seems to be a movingtarget. You don't know what's going to
come down and when. And thething that that frustrates me is and I
don't know why I would expect anythingdifferent from the local media. But when
you look at the local media,I mean the lines are the same.
You know, they shot and killedan unarmed Donovan Lewis that laid in his
bed. It should be you know, a Donovan Lewis who laid in his
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bed, who had prior convictions andcharges for having a gun that was used
in the drive by, who beatup his girlfriend. And who is mom
who out there now is talking youknow about her son, which is a
tragedy. I get it. Butthe nine one one tapes where she's saying,
get him out of here. He'snot allowed in my house. I
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mean, all that goes by thewayside. I mean, let's if we're
gonna talk about it, let's talkabout all the facts and put him out
there and judge upon that. That'smy frustration. You just hit it there,
so I agree with you. Iam sorry that Dona Lewis is not
here. I'm sorry that his wifeball into that path. And I met
his mother. She's a wonderful ladyand I pray for her daily. Our
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retired CPD officer Ricky Anderson. Ifyou go to the media, you could
see every time he was disciplining everyou support. There's a whole list of
all the things that his path,But nowhere on the Donovan Lewis list is
he had some mental health issue,that he had a warrant for domestic violence,
that he had a warrant for illegallypossessing a weapon. Why don't we
see that? Why are we justpainting one side? Well, we know
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we had a solution. The solutionwas to indict a cop. And that's
what Kayak came out. If youremember, a cross to your Tayak helped
graces Canti police climate. He said, if you succumb to the temptation,
then we will penalize you, maybeeven send you to prison. That's why
our members of the FOP we havedeal of faith in Kayak's leadership or how
he runs his office. I don'tknow how you could. I don't know
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how you could have any faith inthat. I mean, it's just it's
it's totally one sided out for avengeance. And what has it done to
the morale of the officer on thestreet. I mean, it has to
change how these officers are doing theirdaily work. It's destroyed it. We
know that there is someone out therelooking to put you in prison. That's
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why we need to get him atoffice. Your listeners need to a vote
a prosecutor who's going to be thechief law enforcement officer, not the chief
social justice warrior. If the evidenceis there, then go ahead and then
improve it. If the officer didcommit this conduct, then go ahead and
find him guilty. If the evidencegoes there, we will never get in
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your way if you do a fair, firm and impartial. And now,
and you and I were talking thelast couple of days, it has now
take gone to the next step.I'm hearing grumblings that they are they're going
to the grand jury now for evennon fatal shootings that involved law enforcement,
non fatal shootings. That's how it'sbecome. A non fatal shooting is going
to a grand jury. We've neverheard of that before. It it's unheard
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of. Not to mention that thetaxpayer funds that we're wasting on this unbelievable.
It just it. I don't know, I I you know, you
hope that the justiceian played justice systemplays out the problem is they are destroying
officers lives and their career years alongthe way and We've seen it with with
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you know, Mead and Coy andnow Ricky and stuff. Um, you
know, yeah, they we hopethat they are eventually found not guilty,
but at what costs and what expenseand how the heck are you supposed to
have officers go out there and dotheir job. And it's just that's the
part that's so frustrating, and youknow, I don't I don't know how
you come back from it other thanelect new leaders in the city. Final
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phonem A real quick Let's look atthe bond. Let's see if if Ricky
Anderson gets a low bond like allthe other individuals are getting out there,
or is he need to get ahigh bond. If he gets a high
bond, I'll go ahead and betmy New York dollar not a single activist
will come out and they will beable to cry that high bond. Right
now, Ricky turned himself in immediately. We have a murderer right now named
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Larry Hudson. He's want to buyColumbus police. His attorney said, you
know what, We're going to turnhim in Monday. He doesn't want to
come in this weekend, and wesaid, okay, prosecutor said, no
problem. Think about that for aminute. A man like Ricky immediately turned
himself in, which was the rightthing to do. Wow wow, well,
uh, Sergeant Bryan Steele, thankyou so much for calling in.
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And I know you you work lastnight. He something like you're always working.
Um, definitely keep us in form, jump on anytime. We will
keep both Ricky and UM the otherofficer and our thoughts and prayers and yell
and reach out to us if wecan do anything to help along the way.
All right, gentlemen, y'all,thank you, all right, Thanks
you buddy. Sergeant Brian Steele fPlage number nine A good voice. I
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mean, we're thankful that at leastwe have people like like Sergeant Steele and
Jim Gilbert and some of those guyswho aren't afraid to come out and see
it like it is. And Ithink the thing is, we don't,
um, we don't, we're not. We want justice to be served,
and if there's something that an officerdoes wrong, we should be held accountable,
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absolutely, but justice equal. That'shit. I mean, they didn't mention
this guy's record A felon with gunchargers nine to ten minutes they beat on
the door and he would not openthe door, and that's what they were
there for, open up the door. That officer had less than one second
when he saw a person who hada felony gun charger just pulling out a
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barrel which happened to be a vapepen, but he pulled it out and
he's moving towards the officer and youngsterjust fired less than a second and then
now he is the one charge withme. I mean, and in this
like, like Sergeant Steele said,a horrible, horrible incident. I mean,
you pray for the families of DonovanLewis and you never want to see
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a young life like that taken away. But as we say, time and
time and time again, all ofthese cases comply comply, don't don't be
a criminal, don't be a thug. And in by a lot of indications,
this guy was a criminal. Hehad charges, he had pushed around
his pregnant girlfriend. We have thevideotape where his mom calls nine one one
and says he's not allowed in myhouse. I mean, why isn't that
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being played out? I mean,so it's it's so, you know,
let's tell it like it is ratherthan putting the crap out there that we
see on the news and the videosout there for anyone to say, you
know, I just watch it.It's not hard to find and you just
pull it up there and you cansee what the officer they talked to him
for tend to outside of the door. Ten madesty refused to open the door,
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refused to complying, goes, whatwhat's going on? And you open
the door. And it's not eventhat you know, all that is true.
But initially the family came out andsaid he was sound asleep. Well,
after going back to the tape andwatching it meticulously, we know that
wasn't the case because at one pointwhen the dog goes in, he shuts
the door, He shuts the door. He is awake. You know,
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is he trying to shutting the doorright reach the door? Is he trying
to elude capture? You know,what are his intentions? He has been
caught before with the gun that hadbeen using to drive by and we are
gonna now judge this officer or puta murder charge on them for a split
second decision. In this world andin this environment against a guy like this,
it's just crazy guys, we're gonnajump to a break when we get
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back when we're talking a little bitabout some more depressing news. I'm sure
it's depressing news. John, yougot anything good in that? Okay?
Then we'll come back to that hereshortly. We're on Target broadcasting live from
the studios of LAPD Farms Range.We'll be back right after the break.
You know what this is? DYeah, tell me lies and thence By
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I can't remember their name, FleetwoodMac, Stevie Knicks live at a high
Stadium tonight. Oh she's there tonight. Wow, Stevie Nickson and Billy Joel.
Well, I don't got to tellyou the concert, guy, I
don't. All right. Didn't thatmean you're gonna miss def Leppard Motley Crue
on Tuesday? Yes? All right, yes? Yes? And you're a
loss. You're a lost. Welcomeback on Target. I'm your host,
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Eric Joint today in the LAPD studios. I got big It to my right,
I got JC the newsmaker to myleft. Maybe a newsmaker, but
the deliverer of news. I don'twant to be making a lot of this
news. Let me tell you seewhat you got, all right? So
um, I'll get a couple ofgood things out of the way, just
just some medium things. Number.Why don't we started out with thee We
started out with a with the theban that was of the bracest so that's
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been overturned. Um, this isAugust is a National shooting sports month,
so get your AARs out, sowell get yeah, take advantage of it.
Got outdoor rangers, indoor arrangers likewe have here air conditioned. And
with the next news combined, whichis this is now, uh, the
forty eighth month in a row,four years in a row where every month
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more than a million firearms new firearmshave been sold, and that figures probably
about fifty two fifty three millions.Some of the months we're like one million
point one point eight million things likethat. But um, forty eight months
in a row, so we're wellon pace to have over five hundred million
firearms in the United States here bySeptember. So um at least by the
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end of September. Fight giving yougood luck getting them, Joe, But
I mean, so, what what'sthis? What's this about? Take people
out, if you know some folksjust have kind of an interest come into
a range, if you want toget some training, some personal hands on
which we always recommend we can,we can do that, but but uh,
this is this is our right andit's being eroded and even taken away
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from us if we do not participate. So so do that. You know,
if if you're not a gun person, and there's a lot of people
listen to this show, who haveyou know, have called in or who
written to me and said, hey, I don't even own a fire and
that is fine. I want tolearn as much as I can. Don't
hesitate to reach out. I hada listener last week reach out and ask
us about a story we did,and she didn't understand and she initially the
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things that she thought to be trueweren't what she thought. And I ask
us, we are more than willingto talk, educate and show you where
to find the information. If you'regetting your information from the media, it's
not correct. I'm just telling youso it isn't either. Yeah. So
anyway, yeah, take advantage ofit, enjoy it, and introduce new
folks to the sport, because itis a sport in ADI fund. So
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okay, there you go, allright, now we're gonna drop the shoe
again. Colorado. This is happeninghere on Monday. Colorado is past five
gun laws that are going into effect, and it was of Monday, no
one under the age of twenty mtwenty one may purchase any kind of firearm
at all. So under the law, you can't purchase under the federal I
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can't purchase one handgun unless you're atwenty one or over. But you could
purchase shotguns to go shoot, youknow, honeying things like that. Well,
Colorado has now signed that in andthey're notifying all FFLs that there can
be no guns sold. Initially itwas sold or possessed, and people,
well they're going, this is Colorado. We had rangers going, my kids
are out there riding herds, andyou know they are going to be possessing
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rifles. And so they've kind ofwatered that down a little bit. But
now but you could no longer purchasea firearm unless you go through a hunter
education safety program, which by theway, you can only you only have
to be ten years old to competewith that in the under the Colorado rules,
or if you're a rancher have familythat's uh that's under that age going
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out. So they are making orfear enough been in the army military and
you're under twenty one, they willallow you to purchase or possess. Pardon
me, but but the but thepurchasing, someone else's gonna have to buy
it for you. But yeah,that would be no. If it's it's
you're allowed to do that. You'renot giving the gun to someone. But
you've purchased the gun, your familyis allowed to use it. Someone passed
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mimitary is allowed to use it.I mean they're going to have to work
through that. They also passed athree day waiting period for all firearms purchases.
They've expanded, unfortunately, their redFlag law. The expansions of horrible.
You can have people just across thestreet. I'd say that with the
gun, he needs to be takenaway and they can have a little old
ladies calling in if they just seeanything. Um. But they repeal this
is this one bothers me. Theyrepealed a state law that bar um victims
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a gun victims from suing gun manufacturersor the fls that sold the guns to
begin with. So now, solet me get that straight. So a
viable store does the background check theperson pats is the background checkslutely that firearm
is used later on the commission ofa crime. Maybe it's even stolen in
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the middle. The victim can goback to the store store, so so
you know what, then then that'sperfect. Then the next fatal accident out
there, I'm going to advise thepeople to go back to Ford and and
shoe them and the drunk driver,I mean, Budweiser, look out,
if you have any stock left,look out, because we're gonna come after
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you. Make sure you absolutely callthat company. Also, this is about
that's that's the idiot. But thisgoes to effect Monday, so there you
go. So uh any case.Um we also had um the one the
story that Biden's surprise surprise is nowgoing to kind of weaponize the Bipartisan Safety
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Act for firearms. It's called theBipartisans Safety Communities Act, which was bipartisan.
I got a couple of Republicans togo with us, so we can
buying bipartisan. What they want todo is now they have the Education Secretary
Miguel Cardona claims that now that thislaw forbids funding to any schools that have
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programs in shooting. It all likelike trap shooting, which is a huge,
huge sports. I think we hearda couple of weeks ago that over
four hundred and thirty thousands students areparticipating in in trap shooting or hunting with
bows and arrows. And if yourschool does that, they want to cut
school funding for all those programs.And I don't even think it was school
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funding for those programs. I thinkit was school funding like that school.
Wasn't it for the whole they said, right, they said, defunding of
schools that offer critical programs like archeryand hunting clubs, defunding the skins more
people so that should not be wherethey're at making rules and laws because you
know where yeah we know where thereshould be at. But they'd be looking
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behind bars they any case. UhSo this so now, of course they're
getting some Democrats who have you know, states outwests and things like that.
They're going to wait a minute.I mean, you know, we need
these gun safety programs. This iswhere people learn to be safe around them.
Archery. Uh you know, youknow how many mass shootings have been
done with those in arrows associate eighteenhundreds, Um, you know, but
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but this is they want to doso now there's an act that the Protecting
the Hunting, Heritage and Education Acthas now been introduced. Um just you
know, archery and other shootings fordefunding schools because they offer that. That's
crazy, guys, We are gettingclars to the end. One thing I
want to give a shout out tothough Tuesday, Tuesdays One, Guys,
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we have to vote yes. There'sso many things at stakes. Take a
look at what is potentially on theballot in November and it could be passed
with a fifty one or fifty percentplus one. We need to vote yes
on Tuesday to protect some of thoserights and these rights of firearms going forward.
Thanks for spending the last hour withus. Next, we're going to
talk a lot about statistics. Getyou up to speed on all kinds of
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statistics so you can go out thereand talk intelligently when you're talking to friends
and so forth. But thank BrianSteele for jumping on with us. And
as always, guys, let's becareful out there.