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September 5, 2024 12 mins
Getting rid of ballot boxes in Ohio
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Stone's at one of his his lessons is batting lessons.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
He's at the batting cage.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Josie just texts me and she goes, Dad, I'm getting
a nervous tick whenever he hits the ball. It scares
me every time. It is so loud in this place,
by the way, because it's indoors, and you know, it's
like they use metal bats at his age. It's just
like this this I can't even replicate it, but it's
this enormous, pretty loud sound, and if you are not

(00:30):
you know, looking, it is hard to actually concentrate in
that place. As we were over there the other day,
and all these other kids start, like you got older
kids that come in there, and they start taking really
fast pitches and they have metal bats as well, and
I'm telling you almost it's not quite gunshot, but it's
it is really loud. It just made me laugh out
loud because Josie's like, I'm getting a nervous tick because

(00:51):
of this kind of thing. So how many times have
you scanned a que code and you're automatically I mean,
for instance, you can't they do this at on I'll
be in a sporting event. I think they will do

(01:12):
it like on the Jumbo Tron. They'll put one up
there and it'll be like scan the QR code to
take advantage of I don't know, buy one, get one
free at you know, Joe's Hamburger's or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
There's like something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
And QR codes are becoming a part of for a
few years now, they're really starting to pick up steam.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It seems like now, well you guessed it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
The bad guys know this, and they're starting to get
in on this now as well. For instance, parking meters
pretty much a thing in the past with regard to
you don't feed parking meters money anymore. There are some,
I think, but I haven't seen any lately, but I
think there are some that will still take like coins.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Why would I want to give?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Why would I want to scan my credit card information
at a meter downtown when the Columbus all they do
is let their data they collect get stolen. Great point, man, here,
let me get let me get my debit card on
the dark web.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Let's do that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
You know what I've started doing kind of along those
lines is I started using a credit card every time,
even though I would like to use my debit card.
But I stand to lose more out of a bank
account than I do a credit card, being because you.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Can dispute the credit card and yeah, it might take
seven to ten business days to get that credited and
off your bill, but it will somebody swipes three grand
out of your your checking Well, you got to wait
some time before.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
That all gets resolved. Bingos.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
This is why you always at a gas station use
a credit card, because if you accidentally end up at
a skimmer, dude, once you start seeing on your statement
like what, no, what do you mean at four thousand
dollars on a you know, at the apples work, then
you're like boom, you contact your credit card company and
like this is some bull.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, that is what I started doing a lot in
lieu of using a debit card, unless it's in a
controlled environment, like you're in line at the grocery store
and you're paying there, you're probably by the way, that's
what you can kind of eliminate.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
That with tap.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
If you're able to tap, yeah, the little the little chip,
well then you can get around with what so I
do like that they've you know, incorporated the tap in
there because it does kind of get away from what you.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Were talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
If I can help it, I like to have you know,
about a couple of hundred dollars in cash in my wallet,
two at time at all times.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Just now.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
It doesn't always work out that way, but you know,
a couple hundred bucks cash that can go a.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Long way to solving some problems.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right if you're in a situation where you think, hmm,
something seems maybe I'll just pay with cash.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Is that kind of what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, Like a lot of times I'll still pay for
cash at the grocery store. You're like one and nine
dollars and eighty two cents. Okay, I'll split them off,
one thirty, go done. I just there's comfort in cash.
Although the fact that more and more and more and
more places are going cashless, which is a complete creepy

(04:23):
New World Order plan to basically run or you know,
to have a one world digital currency.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, because there's all this, then there's an enormous list
of everything you've purchased, and that's what they want to
be able to run.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, that goes back to our you know, gas stations
and grocery stores that scan the back of your ID
every time you buy booze or tobacco. Don't tell me
that somehow that's not going to get collected and sold
to the insurance companies.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, you could be right there, but I know that.
For instance, GABP they've been cashless for a while. Same
with Hinzfield cashless for a while. You should see they
look at you like you're a unicorn with two actual
horns sticking out of your head. If you try to

(05:13):
pay with cash, they look at you like what they where?
What cave have you been living in?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You know?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's like nobody takes cash at those large events like that.
I don't know if they do, I will see nation
mine arena. I don't they've been cashless for a while
as well, I believe, yeah they have. But guess what
you can tip in cash? They're all about that because
I go can I tip in cash? And they're like yeah,
And I'm like, yeah, I bet I could. And I

(05:39):
just gathered all this stuff myself.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
No one's when you turn around and walk away and go,
well I'm not nobody's getting tip.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Here, or you just hand the money to yourself right
in front of them, go I tip myself.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
How about that? You know?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
If I go back to that same booth to get
a beer. No, because they're gonna spit in it. Yeah,
or worse yet, give you the old swizzle stick. Yes back, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Anyway, So, how many QR codes have you just blindly
pulled up on your camera and then the little link
pops up, you tap it, boom, you're off and running. Well,
parking meters are where this is kind of started to
take hold, and it just says, you know, look, you
need to be one hundred percent sure the QR code

(06:23):
that you're scanning is legit. Don't just scan it blindly
and tap the thing and go, okay, everything's fine. Scammers
are putting a QR code they're sticking on like old
parking meters, and it looks real the way that they're
doing it. But once you tap that little link that
comes up from the QR the website or app that

(06:44):
it links to, you got to make sure and pay attention.
Cops in southern cow they're warning and again that's clearly
not to us, but you can bet your bottom dollar
if it's happening there, it is headed this way or
it's already here. But they're warning about these people are
setting up these fake parking scams with QR codes. They're
not affiliated, of course with the city. They're taking your

(07:05):
credit card information because you're just punching it in at
that point and obviously you're getting no services rendered, and
they're just they're they're they're running around shopping with your
credit card.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Man, it is It is crazy what these people keep doing.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
They'll stop at nothing, but yeah, I just got to
try to stay a step ahead.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Of them or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
It's really really nuts. But I have signed up through
an app. I know, for instance that.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
The uh I think it's what is it called?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is it like sea bus? There's like something with it.
I'm trying to find the app, but I use it
here occasionally, like when i'm downtown park sea bus.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Do you have that app or have you used it?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I don't do downtown, okay, ever heard? I mean, I
can't tell you the last time I was downtown.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and you put in you know, you can you
know what zone you're in based on the stuff you're
reading on all that. It's pretty slick because you attach
a card to it and then boom it just you
can do that from and it'll do like a running count.
So say you're somewhere and you're going to be there
longer than you thought. You can just add you know,
from wherever you're at or whatever. Right, it's pretty convenient,

(08:18):
quite frankly, what are your thoughts on Frank Lrose changing
the ballot dropbox rules? And you know, as I'm looking
over this during the break, it does go into the
weeds quite a bit on this. I tried to really
just narrow it down to the meat and potatoes of
this situation. I think one of the takeaways is you

(08:40):
got Governor Dewaine going there has to be some end
to changing rules, and it's just like, oh, of course
he's going to say something like that. Then l Rose goes, look,
I don't want to make any changes to the way
that we run elections in Ohio unless they're forced upon us.
In this case, it was a result of a recent
lawsuit that we had to make this change. So a

(09:01):
federal judge recently ruled ohioan's with disabilities can choose anyone
to help deliver their ballot. Anyone doesn't have to be
a fan. Used to have to be a family member, yes,
and you had to prove that you were a family member.
But now they can have anybody that opens up the
bad guys, that opens up the fraud.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
And that's the thing that Lroe's and he's run.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
A pretty tight ship, you have to admit, since he's
been Secretary, it's been pretty tight. And so therein lies
the discrepancy, or it feels like that's an opening there,
you know, just not those on a select state approved
list or who can submit a ballot on another's behalf.
Lroe said that prompted action on his part is he

(09:46):
distributed new orders for boards of election and request to
eliminate all drop boxes in Ohio. So then when you
start getting down to this, really it is if you
decide to play mailman and you want to drive it
down to the Board of Elections yourself, you currently have
the convenience of using the twenty four to seven drop
box to deliver your ballot. But what we're saying this

(10:07):
is Loroe's what we're saying is if you're delivering somebody
else's ballot, then the only way that we really have
to make sure that we protect against ballot at harvesting
in Ohio is that if you're going to take somebody
else's ballot in, you've got to go inside the board
of elections.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, what's to stop them from doing that? Like not
doing that? Well, and that's just it.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
So now the vulnerability that this creates, This is Loro's
saying this as well. He's saying, somebody could pull up
at a board of elections with an armload of ballots,
say for instance, and then you could show up there
with twenty ballots, right, and then the election official goes, hey,
hang on, what are you doing? You know twenty ballot
They go, oh, yeah, these are all for disabled people.

(10:48):
You can't question me. You got to take my word
for it, and then shot those in the drop box.
Rare that this kind of thing would happen, but we
have to protect against these kind of circumstances. So it's
there's there's It just feels like there's kind of a
discrepancy here or their holes that they're trying to avoid happening.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So just scrap all the just scrap the ballot boxes
all together, and we can avoid all the problems.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, because then you have to go in and so
the person correct and the person delivering, they try that
all handful of things and somehow this.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Will be somehow this will be racist or disproportionately affecting
people at color. It's just somehow it's discriminatory against the
LGB letter people community count on it.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
There'll be a federal judge is going to step in
and say you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
And I mean, how do they keep getting a leg up?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
How are they able to do this?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
It is unreal to me how they keep getting things
ruled in their favor.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And it's obvious what's happening. Well, don't you.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
See because of if a minority or a person of
color or to go to the have to get out
of their car and go into the Board of Elections,
there might be a Truce supporter dropping off their ballot
and they could feel like their life or are there
being intimidated, or what if that Trump supporter beat them
up and took their ballot from them. Oh, this is
a legitimate concern. We got to put an injunction on this.

(12:14):
So stupid, that's the stupidity we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
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