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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome in. And it looks like I heard
the heard the thunder is it is a.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
New rose handle lightning strikes. I had to go on.
I had to go on a loop a rescue mission
because of that.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I got about a third of the way here and
uh and the camera at the house goes off. I
got the security cameras because I'm paranoid like that, and
and it was the camera at the back of the
house which really got my attention. So I tuned into
the camera to see what's going on with the thunder
rolling in the window blowing, and standing there at the
back door is this little little leatina going. You are
(00:35):
turning around right? So I had to go back because
Lupah was out in the backyard, so you didn't know
she I didn't know she was out, no no mine.
With a storm coming in, I could not leave her out,
So I had to turn around and go get her nose.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well there with the heat too, dude, I'm going, wait a.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Minute, Well, she's got the water all over the place.
She's there. We am where we spoilers, ice cubes and
water and stuff like that. So she's she is well hydrated.
She does not like storms or or this time of
year fireworks. She hates fireworks. Oh yeah, so she spends
a great deal of time right by my side at night,
no matter where I am, she's gonna because she hears
(01:11):
that boom boom boom, and she yeah, that's not her thing.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, well, yeah, I heard the I heard the thunder going.
And you know, there are no windows and are the
bullpen there where we're at, So I I just but
the building shaking, ln h, it must be So. I
actually peeked out, and I'm like, oh, it's not doing
anything right now. It's just spinning outside that it's not
even really raining. It's just barely but it sounds like
(01:37):
something's getting ready to have the old.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Days of the buildings shook. You just figured I was here.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Severe thunderstorm warning for Fairfield County that start, it goes
until three point fifty five the National Weather Service is issued.
They again, that's going across the Skrall.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Don't National Weather Service, like some guy named Bob is
issue to severe thunderstore warning?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It just yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I guess now
that I think about, nobody else has ever issued as severe.
It's always great.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's always them, so we know it's them. Still say
like the one in Cleveland has issued something for Fairfield
count I'm like, what does Cleveland know about Fairfield County?
Why wouldn't Wilmington do that?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, well that part I don't pretend to know the answer.
It sounds like you don't either.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, I don't. Well ask Marshall. He has nothing better
to do but to answer our questions.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Sure, sure, that's what he was. I can't wait for
the idiot questions. I guess it's kind of like people
who still talk about the Internet say w w W Yeah, why,
it's like, we know that's worldwide one. You don't have
to just say the website. Now.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
What I am intrigued about with the doub's is I
know they're out of business now. There used to be
a website for for US radio idiots called all Access
and I it was our Bible. We every day you're
on there.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's how I didn't realize there was a person.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
The old retired folded up like two years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh wow, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But when you would go to their site, it was
www two. I've never seen any other website the two
in there before.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I've never the actual numeral two. Yes, I've never heard
of that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I haven't either. But if you would just go like
type in all access, it will go to the website
and that's the UURL that would open www two.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, somebody, now we are going to get inundated with
I'm so sorry you know how this was? Yes, so
you're going to get sixty five direct messages, yes, and
probably a few emails.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And by the way, speaking of direct messages, I love you,
I mean it, but I don't care what you're listening
to on Spotify. Quit, okay, go ahead. Last night I
had somebody it's like, uh so says listening to this
on Spotify. And now they're listening to this on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You're literally we're getting play by play.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, I shall ding every three point two minutes to
tell me what you're listening to on Spotify. I love you,
I mean it, but stop that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Here's what I also don't unders about you having that
alert you every time somewhat and you're saying and look,
God love you for going. Well if somebody sends me,
but dude, how many of those have been so pressing
that you're like, man, I'm glad I got this message.
I got this alert. Yeah, saved me.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
On the messenger. There aren't a lot of pressing. Every
now and then i'll get something that's important. But the
other night I got one from somebody who's a kid
wants to sell their house and was looking for a real.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So that's cool. Was it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was because I get those in the middle of
the night with direct messages. Yeah. And the only reason
I know their middle of the night is because the
next day when I look at the and I see
the time, I'm like an old man. But look, it's
people who have a thought about something that was triggered
some sort of a thought that was triggered by what
you and I may have been speaking about, or something
(04:55):
that I may have said, or even something that you
just said. And that's fine, that's that's great. But I'll
be damned if I'm getting an alert in the middle
of the night about this.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If we just said it, that's fine. But if you're
listening to the podcast and at three am you're listening
and you go you send me a message and goes
that was funny. I have no clue what you're talking about.
I'm just I'm being honest. It was eleven hours before
I have no idea. That was funny. Okay, great, thanks
very much for that. I needed that ding at three am.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
See that's why I still don't okay whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I get the text messages on because you know I
had kids all those years. Well, yeah, a messenger I
probably should turn off, just for a little sanity.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, my phone text I have some people, and you
can do it with yours. Because you have an iPhone,
you can set it up where it bypasses mute, and
so I put the I put everything on mute when
I go to bed, except for there are a few
people in my family that they bypassed that. So if
they sent me something or they called me, then it
(05:57):
would ring through the mute even in the middle of
the night. Now obviously Josephine and my wife, and then
Stone and then my parent. There's a few people. But
I have that set up on purpose. As far as
anybody else, I'm not gonna let that wake me up,
and I'm not gonna depend on somebody to be courteous
in that situation. Look, man, I really value my sleep
(06:20):
and these days, unfortunately, once upon a time you could
have had the OSU Marching band going through my room.
Oh yes, and I'd have been Now it's and it's
you know what happened. I was it was ruined by
children because having kids changes the way that you process everything.
(06:40):
So something's happening front door, whatever, someone trying to that's
just gonna And so now I'm pretty much a pretty
light sleeper and sometimes I can't get back to sleep.
Look between the having a p sixty five times during
the night and then also weird noises that may happen,
or a kid standing over you, hovering over you because
(07:00):
they had a bad dream, and you open your eyes
because you feel someone staring at.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You and it's like, ah, like what are you doing?
Oh come on, don't just come in here and try
to be quiet. Anyway, between all of that getting back
to sleep, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Not saying anybody now you have the daddy sense, which
is one of those things that there's a radio version
of that as well. I can be in bed on
the second floor, the Queen can be in the basement
doing laundry with a radio on the eas tone comes on,
I wake up, I mean it's you hear it? No,
matter where it is. If if I go to sleep
and she's not home, car door closes, boom, I'm up.
(07:37):
It's you just you developed that over the years. I
wish I could sleep the way when I was. I
slept through Jon Jet and Lover Boy at the Ohio Center,
people calling me, banging on my door, and ivery come on, shock,
it's tired for the show. And I didn't wake up.
I slept straight through.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh, you were gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
The to the show, you know. I was in at
Ohio Dominican and a bunch of people on my floor
in the door, and we're going to the show. And
I did not wake up. I had a phone in
my room. They were calling my phone, banging on my door.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I was out in Yeah, Holy cow, I can't. I
don't remember when it was that, that somber, when I
had that much slumber. What's the word I'm looking for.
I don't remember that in my life. I think once
upon a time I did that, but it's so hard
to remember. It's so far removed. I can't hardly.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I just went so hard for so long that when
I slept, I was out. I would, you know, stay
up two or three days at a time most days,
and when I went to sleep, I went to sleep,
crazy man.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Reds are forty two and thirty nine. They didn't get
to sweep versus the Yankees last night. It was a
seven to one loss. They did get the series wins,
So congratulations, you know, Reds. If they continue this pace,
which arguably they could. I mean, they've faced some of
the really really upper echelon of Major League Baseball. They're
(08:54):
holding their not only just holding their own, they're winning
these series. And some would argue, well, these teams aren't
really down to brass tag whatever, it doesn't matter. The
Reds are. They're in the mix right now, so I'll
take it. But three game set at Great American Ballpark
launches tomorrow night. The Padres will be in Cincinnati for
three game set, who are forty four and thirty six,
(09:15):
So yet another team will see how they do versus
another really good team. But they lately man between the
Twins and the Detroit Tigers, and then what happened with
the Guardians and now you know the Yankees. The Reds
are holding their own, so we'll see how they do
against the Padres, who are a really good team.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So keep taking two out of three the rest of
the season. It's a good year.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's a really good year. I mean, really, really really
good year. Hey, so I started wondering, you know, Ohio
Senate Bill one opponents don't have enough signatures to fight,
as it reads here, higher ed anti DEI law, and
so they didn't collect enough signatures to block this the overhaul,
(09:59):
if you will. So it's going to take a fact
would that be tomorrow? The twenty seventh. The law bands diversity,
equity and inclusion on campus, eliminates faculty strikes, and prevents
universities from taking positions on controversial issues. Perfect. I'm okay
with that. I don't know where you come down, but
I say to myself, the eye of dei is for inclusion.
(10:25):
And what's interesting towards the end of this, let's see
what where what the heck? Man? Where did I? I? Oh,
there was somebody who said nothing in the bill is
unconstitutional in our opinion, Serno. That's who it was past
(10:46):
the bill, saying Ohio's universities and colleges were too woke,
did not welcome conservative students' perspectives. So de Wine signed
the bill into law, saying all students should be able
to express their point of view, even conservative students. And
so my my biggest question is the I and DEI
is for inclusion, and the conservative opinion should be part
(11:09):
of the inclusion. But they weren't. They were They were
shut out on the outside looking in many times and
turning into the minority, if you will. In these situations
we saw where these students were protesting on campuses and
a lot of people who were coming to school to
(11:31):
say it with me, get an education couldn't get through
everything happening and were ridiculed and sometimes you know, had
stuff thrown, assaulted, and so on and so forth. But
it's funny how they try to tell, you know, DEI dei,
Yet the inclusion, the eye part of that was never
part for conservatives. So that's the one thing that I
(11:53):
kind of is a takeaway for me on this kind
of thing. So I guess they just kind of almost
reset or factory reset here. And I don't know what
this will be in effect for how long will it
be in effect, who knows, But for the time being,
this is the way that it's supposedly going to be.
I have a feeling they're going to find their way
somehow around this and label it something else. But it's
(12:18):
still going to end up being what these places indoctrinating
our students are doing. They're going to continue to get
around this, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So, I just don't want it to swing too far
the other way. I understood the inclusion of a conservative,
non leftist point of view, absolutely, But I worry, man,
when we swing too hard the other direction to fix
something on one side, I don't want us to become
exactly what we're fighting.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you're saying, well, it swung the other way really
really far. So is the answer to swing it all
the way back past central and go too far the
other way?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There's got to be something in the middle where commons
sense exists, where everybody. I mean, do we need laws
that say inclusion. No, just everybody has a voice. That's
how things are supposed to be. And I just I
don't want to mute the other side. I just don't
want to be muted by them.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right, And that's the thing. They had to put something
in place, And I think you know this, They had
to put something in place now because people who were
conservative in fact were being shut out, they were being silenced,
they were being told you know you're fill in the
blank and your opinion, your feelings don't matter. Ours matter.
(13:35):
Now the diversity part, the equity part.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And the university's not taking a position on controversial issues.
That is State University's only right.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, it doesn't say that, It just says prevents universe.
But you would think yeah, because the receiving.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, I'm going to pay tuition for my kid to
go to school. I kind of like to know where
the leadership of the university stands. I you know, you know,
Hillsdale is a conservative private institution, but if the Ohio
State University wants to believe that, you know, abortion up
to twenty years old is okay and all that kind
of I want to know that before I write a
tuition check. So I don't know that keeping the university
(14:13):
from outwardly expressing a position does me any good. Does
it benefit me or does it just allow them to
be that way in secret?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well, I think that as far as that way in
secret or their own personal somebody who's running a university,
if they look, they're human before they're running a university,
So they're going to have an opinion or feel a
certain way about any of these issues.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Except for Catherine A.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Holbrook.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't know. He said they're human before they run
the universe. Oh remember when her first thing was like
kill the tailgating so well?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And so my point is, I feel like if it
comes into the way that they govern the university, and
how could it not correct right? But you would hope
that somehow they shelve that and then just they they
call them right that balls and strikes just right down
the center the way that they're supposed to. That in
an ideal society or setting would be the way that
(15:08):
it should operate, but we know that many times it isn't.
So as far as knowing, I mean, is it really
should it be something that you know about someone personal
that like their personal views or beliefs that is run
they're the ones running the university, but they're not just
(15:28):
running it solely just them. I think we get into,
you know, the the groups of people who run universities
and so as a result, the one person doesn't matter
where they're because they can't just do it themselves. They're
checks and balances in place. But I think that's where
you get into you know, these you know, these panels
or people that run the place that's where it can
(15:50):
start getting a little little weird. But anyway, I thought
this was a kind of an interesting article. But people
who were worried about that it's not going to happen
right now, they don't have enough signature. So there, it is,
all right,
All right, welcome in. And it looks like I heard
the heard the thunder is it is a.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
New rose handle lightning strikes. I had to go on.
I had to go on a loop a rescue mission
because of that.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I got about a third of the way here and
uh and the camera at the house goes off. I
got the security cameras because I'm paranoid like that, and
and it was the camera at the back of the
house which really got my attention. So I tuned into
the camera to see what's going on with the thunder
rolling in the window blowing, and standing there at the
back door is this little little leatina going. You are
(00:35):
turning around right? So I had to go back because
Lupah was out in the backyard, so you didn't know
she I didn't know she was out, no no mine.
With a storm coming in, I could not leave her out,
So I had to turn around and go get her nose.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well there with the heat too, dude, I'm going, wait a.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Minute, Well, she's got the water all over the place.
She's there. We am where we spoilers, ice cubes and
water and stuff like that. So she's she is well hydrated.
She does not like storms or or this time of
year fireworks. She hates fireworks. Oh yeah, so she spends
a great deal of time right by my side at night,
no matter where I am, she's gonna because she hears
(01:11):
that boom boom boom, and she yeah, that's not her thing.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, well, yeah, I heard the I heard the thunder going.
And you know, there are no windows and are the
bullpen there where we're at, So I I just but
the building shaking, ln h, it must be So. I
actually peeked out, and I'm like, oh, it's not doing
anything right now. It's just spinning outside that it's not
even really raining. It's just barely but it sounds like
(01:37):
something's getting ready to have the old.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Days of the buildings shook. You just figured I was here.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Severe thunderstorm warning for Fairfield County that start, it goes
until three point fifty five the National Weather Service is issued.
They again, that's going across the Skrall.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Don't National Weather Service, like some guy named Bob is
issue to severe thunderstore warning?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It just yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I guess now
that I think about, nobody else has ever issued as severe.
It's always great.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's always them, so we know it's them. Still say
like the one in Cleveland has issued something for Fairfield
count I'm like, what does Cleveland know about Fairfield County?
Why wouldn't Wilmington do that?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, well that part I don't pretend to know the answer.
It sounds like you don't either.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, I don't. Well ask Marshall. He has nothing better
to do but to answer our questions.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Sure, sure, that's what he was. I can't wait for
the idiot questions. I guess it's kind of like people
who still talk about the Internet say w w W Yeah, why,
it's like, we know that's worldwide one. You don't have
to just say the website. Now.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
What I am intrigued about with the doub's is I
know they're out of business now. There used to be
a website for for US radio idiots called all Access
and I it was our Bible. We every day you're
on there.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's how I didn't realize there was a person.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
The old retired folded up like two years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh wow, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But when you would go to their site, it was
www two. I've never seen any other website the two
in there before.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I've never the actual numeral two. Yes, I've never heard
of that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I haven't either. But if you would just go like
type in all access, it will go to the website
and that's the UURL that would open www two.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, somebody, now we are going to get inundated with
I'm so sorry you know how this was? Yes, so
you're going to get sixty five direct messages, yes, and
probably a few emails.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And by the way, speaking of direct messages, I love you,
I mean it, but I don't care what you're listening
to on Spotify. Quit, okay, go ahead. Last night I
had somebody it's like, uh so says listening to this
on Spotify. And now they're listening to this on Spotify.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You're literally we're getting play by play.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, I shall ding every three point two minutes to
tell me what you're listening to on Spotify. I love you,
I mean it, but stop that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Here's what I also don't unders about you having that
alert you every time somewhat and you're saying and look,
God love you for going. Well if somebody sends me,
but dude, how many of those have been so pressing
that you're like, man, I'm glad I got this message.
I got this alert. Yeah, saved me.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
On the messenger. There aren't a lot of pressing. Every
now and then i'll get something that's important. But the
other night I got one from somebody who's a kid
wants to sell their house and was looking for a real.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So that's cool. Was it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
No, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was because I get those in the middle of
the night with direct messages. Yeah. And the only reason
I know their middle of the night is because the
next day when I look at the and I see
the time, I'm like an old man. But look, it's
people who have a thought about something that was triggered
some sort of a thought that was triggered by what
you and I may have been speaking about, or something
(04:55):
that I may have said, or even something that you
just said. And that's fine, that's that's great. But I'll
be damned if I'm getting an alert in the middle
of the night about this.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If we just said it, that's fine. But if you're
listening to the podcast and at three am you're listening
and you go you send me a message and goes
that was funny. I have no clue what you're talking about.
I'm just I'm being honest. It was eleven hours before
I have no idea. That was funny. Okay, great, thanks
very much for that. I needed that ding at three am.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
See that's why I still don't okay whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I get the text messages on because you know I
had kids all those years. Well, yeah, a messenger I
probably should turn off, just for a little sanity.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, my phone text I have some people, and you
can do it with yours. Because you have an iPhone,
you can set it up where it bypasses mute, and
so I put the I put everything on mute when
I go to bed, except for there are a few
people in my family that they bypassed that. So if
they sent me something or they called me, then it
(05:57):
would ring through the mute even in the middle of
the night. Now obviously Josephine and my wife, and then
Stone and then my parent. There's a few people. But
I have that set up on purpose. As far as
anybody else, I'm not gonna let that wake me up,
and I'm not gonna depend on somebody to be courteous
in that situation. Look, man, I really value my sleep
(06:20):
and these days, unfortunately, once upon a time you could
have had the OSU Marching band going through my room.
Oh yes, and I'd have been Now it's and it's
you know what happened. I was it was ruined by
children because having kids changes the way that you process everything.
(06:40):
So something's happening front door, whatever, someone trying to that's
just gonna And so now I'm pretty much a pretty
light sleeper and sometimes I can't get back to sleep.
Look between the having a p sixty five times during
the night and then also weird noises that may happen,
or a kid standing over you, hovering over you because
(07:00):
they had a bad dream, and you open your eyes
because you feel someone staring at.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You and it's like, ah, like what are you doing?
Oh come on, don't just come in here and try
to be quiet. Anyway, between all of that getting back
to sleep, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Not saying anybody now you have the daddy sense, which
is one of those things that there's a radio version
of that as well. I can be in bed on
the second floor, the Queen can be in the basement
doing laundry with a radio on the eas tone comes on,
I wake up, I mean it's you hear it? No,
matter where it is. If if I go to sleep
and she's not home, car door closes, boom, I'm up.
(07:37):
It's you just you developed that over the years. I
wish I could sleep the way when I was. I
slept through Jon Jet and Lover Boy at the Ohio Center,
people calling me, banging on my door, and ivery come on, shock,
it's tired for the show. And I didn't wake up.
I slept straight through.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh, you were gonna go to.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
The to the show, you know. I was in at
Ohio Dominican and a bunch of people on my floor
in the door, and we're going to the show. And
I did not wake up. I had a phone in
my room. They were calling my phone, banging on my door.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I was out in Yeah, Holy cow, I can't. I
don't remember when it was that, that somber, when I
had that much slumber. What's the word I'm looking for.
I don't remember that in my life. I think once
upon a time I did that, but it's so hard
to remember. It's so far removed. I can't hardly.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I just went so hard for so long that when
I slept, I was out. I would, you know, stay
up two or three days at a time most days,
and when I went to sleep, I went to sleep,
crazy man.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Reds are forty two and thirty nine. They didn't get
to sweep versus the Yankees last night. It was a
seven to one loss. They did get the series wins,
So congratulations, you know, Reds. If they continue this pace,
which arguably they could. I mean, they've faced some of
the really really upper echelon of Major League Baseball. They're
(08:54):
holding their not only just holding their own, they're winning
these series. And some would argue, well, these teams aren't
really down to brass tag whatever, it doesn't matter. The
Reds are. They're in the mix right now, so I'll
take it. But three game set at Great American Ballpark
launches tomorrow night. The Padres will be in Cincinnati for
three game set, who are forty four and thirty six,
(09:15):
So yet another team will see how they do versus
another really good team. But they lately man between the
Twins and the Detroit Tigers, and then what happened with
the Guardians and now you know the Yankees. The Reds
are holding their own, so we'll see how they do
against the Padres, who are a really good team.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So keep taking two out of three the rest of
the season. It's a good year.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's a really good year. I mean, really, really really
good year. Hey, so I started wondering, you know, Ohio
Senate Bill one opponents don't have enough signatures to fight,
as it reads here, higher ed anti DEI law, and
so they didn't collect enough signatures to block this the overhaul,
(09:59):
if you will. So it's going to take a fact
would that be tomorrow? The twenty seventh. The law bands diversity,
equity and inclusion on campus, eliminates faculty strikes, and prevents
universities from taking positions on controversial issues. Perfect. I'm okay
with that. I don't know where you come down, but
I say to myself, the eye of dei is for inclusion.
(10:25):
And what's interesting towards the end of this, let's see
what where what the heck? Man? Where did I? I? Oh,
there was somebody who said nothing in the bill is
unconstitutional in our opinion, Serno. That's who it was past
(10:46):
the bill, saying Ohio's universities and colleges were too woke,
did not welcome conservative students' perspectives. So de Wine signed
the bill into law, saying all students should be able
to express their point of view, even conservative students. And
so my my biggest question is the I and DEI
is for inclusion, and the conservative opinion should be part
(11:09):
of the inclusion. But they weren't. They were They were
shut out on the outside looking in many times and
turning into the minority, if you will. In these situations
we saw where these students were protesting on campuses and
a lot of people who were coming to school to
(11:31):
say it with me, get an education couldn't get through
everything happening and were ridiculed and sometimes you know, had
stuff thrown, assaulted, and so on and so forth. But
it's funny how they try to tell, you know, DEI dei,
Yet the inclusion, the eye part of that was never
part for conservatives. So that's the one thing that I
(11:53):
kind of is a takeaway for me on this kind
of thing. So I guess they just kind of almost
reset or factory reset here. And I don't know what
this will be in effect for how long will it
be in effect, who knows, But for the time being,
this is the way that it's supposedly going to be.
I have a feeling they're going to find their way
somehow around this and label it something else. But it's
(12:18):
still going to end up being what these places indoctrinating
our students are doing. They're going to continue to get
around this, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So, I just don't want it to swing too far
the other way. I understood the inclusion of a conservative,
non leftist point of view, absolutely, But I worry, man,
when we swing too hard the other direction to fix
something on one side, I don't want us to become
exactly what we're fighting.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So you're saying, well, it swung the other way really
really far. So is the answer to swing it all
the way back past central and go too far the
other way?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
There's got to be something in the middle where commons
sense exists, where everybody. I mean, do we need laws
that say inclusion. No, just everybody has a voice. That's
how things are supposed to be. And I just I
don't want to mute the other side. I just don't
want to be muted by them.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right, And that's the thing. They had to put something
in place, And I think you know this, They had
to put something in place now because people who were
conservative in fact were being shut out, they were being silenced,
they were being told you know you're fill in the
blank and your opinion, your feelings don't matter. Ours matter.
(13:35):
Now the diversity part, the equity part.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And the university's not taking a position on controversial issues.
That is State University's only right.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, it doesn't say that, It just says prevents universe.
But you would think yeah, because the receiving.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, I'm going to pay tuition for my kid to
go to school. I kind of like to know where
the leadership of the university stands. I you know, you know,
Hillsdale is a conservative private institution, but if the Ohio
State University wants to believe that, you know, abortion up
to twenty years old is okay and all that kind
of I want to know that before I write a
tuition check. So I don't know that keeping the university
(14:13):
from outwardly expressing a position does me any good. Does
it benefit me or does it just allow them to
be that way in secret?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well, I think that as far as that way in
secret or their own personal somebody who's running a university,
if they look, they're human before they're running a university,
So they're going to have an opinion or feel a
certain way about any of these issues.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Except for Catherine A.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Holbrook.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't know. He said they're human before they run
the universe. Oh remember when her first thing was like
kill the tailgating so well?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And so my point is, I feel like if it
comes into the way that they govern the university, and
how could it not correct right? But you would hope
that somehow they shelve that and then just they they
call them right that balls and strikes just right down
the center the way that they're supposed to. That in
an ideal society or setting would be the way that
(15:08):
it should operate, but we know that many times it isn't.
So as far as knowing, I mean, is it really
should it be something that you know about someone personal
that like their personal views or beliefs that is run
they're the ones running the university, but they're not just
(15:28):
running it solely just them. I think we get into,
you know, the the groups of people who run universities
and so as a result, the one person doesn't matter
where they're because they can't just do it themselves. They're
checks and balances in place. But I think that's where
you get into you know, these you know, these panels
or people that run the place that's where it can
(15:50):
start getting a little little weird. But anyway, I thought
this was a kind of an interesting article. But people
who were worried about that it's not going to happen
right now, they don't have enough signature. So there, it is,
all right,
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