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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, you know what it's like.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You can't look at social media right now, at least
I can't without seeing you know, Sammy Hagar is everywhere
right now, especially with them touring. It just made me
think of it because, of course the van Halen the
pound Cake, which is like one of my favorite van
Halen songs, the opening there, but I just saw him
like a live performance. He was on Howard and it
(00:23):
was on social media. The clip was and they were
doing Summer Nights and they're performing, and I think on
this tour that they're on with Joe Satriani, of course
Michael Anthony who's bass player and does high harmonies on
all the Van Halen stuff. And then you know, you
got Jason Bonham, who's the great John Bonham's son on drums,
who he's ridiculously amazing. And to watch Satriani describe and
(00:49):
talk about what Eddie van Halen does to the beginning
of that Summer Night's song and of course that was
the Sammy Hagar era van Halen and how complicated it was,
and then what to watch Satriani literally just I mean
nail it the opening of that the way that it's played,
(01:11):
and to watch him do all of that. It's like,
how do you make your hands do all of that?
Do you have you ever tried to play guitar? I
mean I messed with it once upon a time. It
is so hard, man, it is so hard.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it's it is. I don't my I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I don't have.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Long enough fingers. That's part of it. Yeah, my hands
are small. I have small hands. Make all the jokes
you want out there, people, but I do I have
relatively so like my golf glove size is like a
medium medium large, Okay, So like I just don't now.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Bass bass was a little different.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Bass was fun, but my fingertips were just not made
for that plucking. And I didn't want to use a
pick because all my guitar hero bass heroes growing up
all played no pick, just all finger.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Like and Eric Clapton I think uses he uses Fan
and Eddie used a pick. But this particular beginning of
Summer Nights he Satriani was doing it with all fingers,
like fingers on boasts obviously on the neck, but on
the on the over the fret as well, or the
pickup rather.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's interesting a lot of it because most guitar players
will at least do a pick.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And I think he does within but it's just playing
that was so intricate.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Bass is a little different. You can get away with
just the finger smack.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly, yeah, at least based
on what what I can tell looking at it, because
clearly I don't know anything about either one of those
other than what I what I observe, you know, visually
watching them.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I just get so sad when I think about Eddie
van Hamam being gone.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I still do, because man, you want to talk about
of the greatest ever who picked it up.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But anyway, imagine being on a.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Beach and we've all been on a beach and then
there's a swarm of dragonflies that ends up overtaking the beach,
which is what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yep. I saw this out of Rhode Island.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Isn't that crazy? I saw that?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I didn't, did you? Was there video of it? I
saw a still of it, a picture that was captured.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't know if there was a video of it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It looks like something out of a Stephen King movie.
I know that this happened on Saturday, and uh it was.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I can't even I can't pronounce the name of the beach.
But there were thousands of bugs buzzing through this beach
which was so crowded, and they came out of nowhere,
and they're the common green darner dragonflies. They traveled across
North America during the summer to mate. So now you
(03:58):
got a lot of dragonflies that horny that are flying
around everywhere on a beach while you're on a beach.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Orny dragonfly, orny dragonflies. That's a band. That's exactly what
I was going for. That sounds like a band name.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The carnivorous hunters, which can grow up to five inches long.
These things typically prey on mosquito's moths and even small fish.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
A small fish, and they're flying through that crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I just the scene is enough to make your skin
crawl and made me think of, you know, some sort
of you know, horror type movie, you know, especially especially
given that you I mean, depending on where you're at
on that beach, if you're if if it's they're just
all coming all the wie.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean, you can't get away.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Imagine your kids are out there and you're trying to
people probably haven't flying in their mouth and everything else.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Wow, that's probably a good source of protein. What's no
different than the cicadas from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I think we kind of talked about, did you know,
I know there are people that eat those, like on
a dare or whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We know they actually some people though, they actually have recipes.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Three years ago when that happened, they had recipes for
how to cook with cicadas. They just tell you, like,
your dogs will eat so many of them, they'll just
throw them up.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Though, you know, I'm lucky Esther wasn't around it, because
I could totally see her doing that totally. Uh, those
are we're still what about fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Or fourteen years from the next brood?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, so I don't know if Vester will do that
would make her sixteen by then, So I think.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know if she's still I'm not commenting on
that because I don't even know if I'll be around.
What am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Nobody knows that they're going to be around by tomorrow.
That's a fact, which, yeah, that's a fact, no question.
Did you happen to see President Trump with Laura Ingram
last night? The Ingram Angle?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was on with her, and he was defending JD's
childless all. You know, I just realized, I'm like, oh boy,
but this is one of the ones you printed.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You were like, man, I.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Don't know, should we even continue giving this any energy.
I'm just just like they're beating. They won't let this go.
That's why I wish he would just do whatever so
you could just get past it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't give them the satisfaction. I'm now in the
I want him to dig his heels in. Just don't
even acknowledge him anymore. These more on leftists don't. They
have no sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And be.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The point he was trying to make is and his
overall points still stands.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Is that you do see a lot of.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Politicians who want to tell other people what to do,
especially the white liberal women, many of whom choose not
to have children, and.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And so be it. If they do, that's so fuck
God bless them us their choice, right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
The point is, his main overall point was it seems
that a lot of angry, controlling, authoritarian people don't have
children because if they did, they would realize that, you know,
you can't always control something.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And he's not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Look at who who is the angriest one you see,
it's the it's the purple haired, fourteen nosering chicks screaming
about how abortion abortion my body, my choice, my body,
my choice. He's got a point. Did he do it
in a he could have done it. He could have
said it in a lot better way, though.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So he also was saying the Democratic Party has become
anti family, anti children, and we know to a certain
degree there is some truth to that, not saying every
Democrat is that way, but by and large you're gonna
hear more anti family, anti children coming from that party
than you will the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I can tell you to shame you for having children,
how dare that was part of his point. Yeah, we're
already too populated a climate change, your self is for
bringing children into the world. I never hear that from
a conservative or a Christian. I only hear that from
degenerates on the left.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that's why his point stands right right, And.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Then he goes on to say, look, I made the
simple point that I made is having children, becoming a father,
becoming a mother. I really do think it changes your
perspective in a pretty profound way. No truer statement ever said,
My God, think about if you have children, think about
the way you look at life.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And by life, I mean every aspect of it. Now,
think about the way you look at it after you
have kids. It changes it, don't. I'm not saying it
it needs to.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Ruin your life or all your fund's gone, or I'm
simply saying it will change your perspective.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just even if it's just a minute amount. Yeah, it will.
It definitely does.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Then he goes, I'm making an argument that our entire
society has become skeptical, even hateful, towards the idea of
having kids.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He's not wrong, He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
There is a lot of that going on, including i'll
say it, the killing of children via abortion, that is
that has become so prevalent over these last couple of years.
That he's not wrong saying hateful towards the idea of
having kids.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know, you know, it's so hard.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
To have this conversation, by the way, because with kids,
because Stone is beginning to ask questions about this kind
of stuff with me. Now you know, he's going to
be eleven in November. I don't know if any of
that stuff comes up with Robert. But it is a hard,
hard conversation, it really is.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm aware. I'm very aware, so you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So what do you think of this bill that would
require pro teams to play on grass surfaces? There is
an Ohio lawmaker considering a bill that would require the
state's pro teams to play on grass rather than artificial turf.
It's the Athlete's Safety Bill. It put a lot of
thought into that. The Athlete Safety Bill, Yes, it's a
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bipartisan measure, would require a surface of at least ninety
percent natural grass in all pro sports stadiums.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Is this really a problem? Cleveland Browns Stadium is grass.
Jacobs Field or whatever the hell they call it now
is grass. Bengals Stadium is grass. The Reds play on grass.
The crew plays on grass. Oh okay, I wasn't aware.
You know more than I do about the surfaces. I
I thought that the Banalo State's.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The only one I know that doesn't play on grass.
So maybe that's the one that they're kind of zeroing in.
But they're college. Oh yeah, this is a yeah, you're right,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I want to know who they're the Toledo mud Hens
play on grass. The Dayton Dragons play on ground. I'm
just I'm trying to think of, like, what this professional
Who is the professional team in Ohio? I cannot you know,
the Cavs play on a basketball court that's not applicable,
so they I guess part of this was saying, well,
the Bengals earlier this year considering installing synthetic turf at
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pecor there, so they were.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Considering it, and I feel like this almost might be like,
h don't even think it, you know that kind of thing.
It would be more costly to maintain natural turf than
it would be AstroTurf, right, I mean it would be
it's more costly the ongoing maintenance.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, but if it's safer, and.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I feel like it is it you talked to you know,
you probably know some player athletes. I know I know
some that are retired and they like natural grass way
better for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That field turf that they use is what they use
at Ohio Stateium. It's called field turf. Remember back in
the day when the old astro turf was basically concrete
with green carpeting on it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh Okay, See, I just used that now to day.
That's quest.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's where it came from because it was first installed
in the Houston Astrodome.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's where not an AstroTurf. I didn't even know that, okay,
but it was. I cannot.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I've never heard an interview with any professional football player
I don't know about baseball, but pro football who says
they would rather play on turf than they would grass.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've not seen one.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And and if you notice at Ohio State, it does
take take some upkeep there because they got to put
all those little black pellets in there, those little rubber
black pellets, so.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
They have to kind of almost feed it, if you will.
They have to keep continuing to replace.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's almost like quote unquote seeding.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yes, not really, but seeding in the sense of, you know,
you got to because a lot of those pellets that
get kicked up, they get lost, they get whatever displaced,
So you got to go back and kind of brush
them back in because what that does is help even
out the field turf, help keep it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You know, it makes sense. Yeah, it has a they
have a purpose.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But still, yeah, grass would be harder because you got
to water, you got to mow, it got to replace it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
As they replace it, big chunks.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Of it are missing, especially when it gets sloppy out,
which we think about it. You probably have a good
thirty percent of the season that's sloppy for Ohio Pro teams,
and I'm talking Cleveland and Cincinnati. You got some sloppy
weather that probably occurs from the slopping, like so the
field gets all busted up and tore up and you
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know all that kind of stuffy ry.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, hey, you know there has been I remember this
happened last year that there were some players that were
blaming their injuries on these new synthetic turf fuelds. Of
course they're not like the old. You guys were just
talking about the astrodome, which was basically what they call
carpet on top of concrete, you know. And I remember
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I think it was Terry Glenn for Hio State up
in Minnesota and an old, old dome that had one
of those surfaces, the carpet on top of concrete that
he made a famous catch where he basically bounced off
of that and probably broke a few things or whatever.
But there's there's been some talk. You can look it
up and there's a lot of the Players Association NFL
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as I guess they've looked into it. There's been some
players that are blaming some of these uh you know,
soft tissue pulls and stuff on playing on those surfaces
because it gives and you just don't have as much.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You don't get the.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Same traction that you get on grass and stuff. But
it's there are there is some talk about that. I
have heard that.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, no question about it. I'm quite frankly, Gary, Thanks,
think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
When regular real grass and it's ten degrees out fifteen.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Degrees, that's getting ready to say it doesn't matter when
it gets cold and regular grass hurts anyway the ground's
frozen woo.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, to be brutal, but you're right. It's once it
gets down that cold, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Even the surface begins to not almost matter either.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Either way you go with that, that's exactly where it was,
synthetic or the real grass, all right, trafficking weather
Man, you know what it's like.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You can't look at social media right now, at least
I can't without seeing you know, Sammy Hagar is everywhere
right now, especially with them touring. It just made me
think of it because, of course the van Halen the
pound Cake, which is like one of my favorite van
Halen songs, the opening there, but I just saw him
like a live performance. He was on Howard and it
(00:23):
was on social media. The clip was and they were
doing Summer Nights and they're performing, and I think on
this tour that they're on with Joe Satriani, of course
Michael Anthony who's bass player and does high harmonies on
all the Van Halen stuff. And then you know, you
got Jason Bonham, who's the great John Bonham's son on drums,
who he's ridiculously amazing. And to watch Satriani describe and
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talk about what Eddie van Halen does to the beginning
of that Summer Night's song and of course that was
the Sammy Hagar era van Halen and how complicated it was,
and then what to watch Satriani literally just I mean
nail it the opening of that the way that it's played,
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and to watch him do all of that. It's like,
how do you make your hands do all of that?
Do you have you ever tried to play guitar? I
mean I messed with it once upon a time. It
is so hard, man, it is so hard.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it's it is. I don't my I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I don't have.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Long enough fingers. That's part of it. Yeah, my hands
are small. I have small hands. Make all the jokes
you want out there, people, but I do I have
relatively so like my golf glove size is like a
medium medium large, Okay, So like I just don't now.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Bass bass was a little different.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Bass was fun, but my fingertips were just not made
for that plucking. And I didn't want to use a
pick because all my guitar hero bass heroes growing up
all played no pick, just all finger.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Like and Eric Clapton I think uses he uses Fan
and Eddie used a pick. But this particular beginning of
Summer Nights he Satriani was doing it with all fingers,
like fingers on boasts obviously on the neck, but on
the on the over the fret as well, or the
pickup rather.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's interesting a lot of it because most guitar players
will at least do a pick.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And I think he does within but it's just playing
that was so intricate.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Bass is a little different. You can get away with
just the finger smack.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly, yeah, at least based
on what what I can tell looking at it, because
clearly I don't know anything about either one of those
other than what I what I observe, you know, visually
watching them.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I just get so sad when I think about Eddie
van Hamam being gone.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I still do, because man, you want to talk about
of the greatest ever who picked it up.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
But anyway, imagine being on a.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Beach and we've all been on a beach and then
there's a swarm of dragonflies that ends up overtaking the beach,
which is what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yep. I saw this out of Rhode Island.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Isn't that crazy? I saw that?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I didn't, did you? Was there video of it? I
saw a still of it, a picture that was captured.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't know if there was a video of it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It looks like something out of a Stephen King movie.
I know that this happened on Saturday, and uh it was.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I can't even I can't pronounce the name of the beach.
But there were thousands of bugs buzzing through this beach
which was so crowded, and they came out of nowhere,
and they're the common green darner dragonflies. They traveled across
North America during the summer to mate. So now you
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got a lot of dragonflies that horny that are flying
around everywhere on a beach while you're on a beach.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Orny dragonfly, orny dragonflies. That's a band. That's exactly what
I was going for. That sounds like a band name.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The carnivorous hunters, which can grow up to five inches long.
These things typically prey on mosquito's moths and even small fish.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
A small fish, and they're flying through that crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I just the scene is enough to make your skin
crawl and made me think of, you know, some sort
of you know, horror type movie, you know, especially especially
given that you I mean, depending on where you're at
on that beach, if you're if if it's they're just
all coming all the wie.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean, you can't get away.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Imagine your kids are out there and you're trying to
people probably haven't flying in their mouth and everything else.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Wow, that's probably a good source of protein. What's no
different than the cicadas from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I think we kind of talked about, did you know,
I know there are people that eat those, like on
a dare or whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We know they actually some people though, they actually have recipes.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Three years ago when that happened, they had recipes for
how to cook with cicadas. They just tell you, like,
your dogs will eat so many of them, they'll just
throw them up.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Though, you know, I'm lucky Esther wasn't around it, because
I could totally see her doing that totally. Uh, those
are we're still what about fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Or fourteen years from the next brood?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, so I don't know if Vester will do that
would make her sixteen by then, So I think.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know if she's still I'm not commenting on
that because I don't even know if I'll be around.
What am I talking about?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Nobody knows that they're going to be around by tomorrow.
That's a fact, which, yeah, that's a fact, no question.
Did you happen to see President Trump with Laura Ingram
last night? The Ingram Angle?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was on with her, and he was defending JD's
childless all. You know, I just realized, I'm like, oh boy,
but this is one of the ones you printed.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You were like, man, I.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Don't know, should we even continue giving this any energy.
I'm just just like they're beating. They won't let this go.
That's why I wish he would just do whatever so
you could just get past it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't give them the satisfaction. I'm now in the
I want him to dig his heels in. Just don't
even acknowledge him anymore. These more on leftists don't. They
have no sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And be.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The point he was trying to make is and his
overall points still stands.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Is that you do see a lot of.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Politicians who want to tell other people what to do,
especially the white liberal women, many of whom choose not
to have children, and.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And so be it. If they do, that's so fuck
God bless them us their choice, right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
The point is, his main overall point was it seems
that a lot of angry, controlling, authoritarian people don't have
children because if they did, they would realize that, you know,
you can't always control something.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And he's not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Look at who who is the angriest one you see,
it's the it's the purple haired, fourteen nosering chicks screaming
about how abortion abortion my body, my choice, my body,
my choice. He's got a point. Did he do it
in a he could have done it. He could have
said it in a lot better way, though.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So he also was saying the Democratic Party has become
anti family, anti children, and we know to a certain
degree there is some truth to that, not saying every
Democrat is that way, but by and large you're gonna
hear more anti family, anti children coming from that party
than you will the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I can tell you to shame you for having children,
how dare that was part of his point. Yeah, we're
already too populated a climate change, your self is for
bringing children into the world. I never hear that from
a conservative or a Christian. I only hear that from
degenerates on the left.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that's why his point stands right right, And.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Then he goes on to say, look, I made the
simple point that I made is having children, becoming a father,
becoming a mother. I really do think it changes your
perspective in a pretty profound way. No truer statement ever said,
My God, think about if you have children, think about
the way you look at life.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And by life, I mean every aspect of it. Now,
think about the way you look at it after you
have kids. It changes it, don't. I'm not saying it
it needs to.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Ruin your life or all your fund's gone, or I'm
simply saying it will change your perspective.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just even if it's just a minute amount. Yeah, it will.
It definitely does.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Then he goes, I'm making an argument that our entire
society has become skeptical, even hateful, towards the idea of
having kids.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He's not wrong, He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
There is a lot of that going on, including i'll
say it, the killing of children via abortion, that is
that has become so prevalent over these last couple of years.
That he's not wrong saying hateful towards the idea of
having kids.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know, you know, it's so hard.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
To have this conversation, by the way, because with kids,
because Stone is beginning to ask questions about this kind
of stuff with me. Now you know, he's going to
be eleven in November. I don't know if any of
that stuff comes up with Robert. But it is a hard,
hard conversation, it really is.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm aware. I'm very aware, so you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So what do you think of this bill that would
require pro teams to play on grass surfaces? There is
an Ohio lawmaker considering a bill that would require the
state's pro teams to play on grass rather than artificial turf.
It's the Athlete's Safety Bill. It put a lot of
thought into that. The Athlete Safety Bill, Yes, it's a
(10:33):
bipartisan measure, would require a surface of at least ninety
percent natural grass in all pro sports stadiums.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Is this really a problem? Cleveland Browns Stadium is grass.
Jacobs Field or whatever the hell they call it now
is grass. Bengals Stadium is grass. The Reds play on grass.
The crew plays on grass. Oh okay, I wasn't aware.
You know more than I do about the surfaces. I
I thought that the Banalo State's.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The only one I know that doesn't play on grass.
So maybe that's the one that they're kind of zeroing in.
But they're college. Oh yeah, this is a yeah, you're right,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I want to know who they're the Toledo mud Hens
play on grass. The Dayton Dragons play on ground. I'm
just I'm trying to think of, like, what this professional
Who is the professional team in Ohio? I cannot you know,
the Cavs play on a basketball court that's not applicable,
so they I guess part of this was saying, well,
the Bengals earlier this year considering installing synthetic turf at
(11:37):
pecor there, so they were.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Considering it, and I feel like this almost might be like,
h don't even think it, you know that kind of thing.
It would be more costly to maintain natural turf than
it would be AstroTurf, right, I mean it would be
it's more costly the ongoing maintenance.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, but if it's safer, and.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I feel like it is it you talked to you know,
you probably know some player athletes. I know I know
some that are retired and they like natural grass way
better for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That field turf that they use is what they use
at Ohio Stateium. It's called field turf. Remember back in
the day when the old astro turf was basically concrete
with green carpeting on it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh Okay, See, I just used that now to day.
That's quest.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's where it came from because it was first installed
in the Houston Astrodome.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's where not an AstroTurf. I didn't even know that, okay,
but it was. I cannot.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I've never heard an interview with any professional football player
I don't know about baseball, but pro football who says
they would rather play on turf than they would grass.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've not seen one.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And and if you notice at Ohio State, it does
take take some upkeep there because they got to put
all those little black pellets in there, those little rubber
black pellets, so.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
They have to kind of almost feed it, if you will.
They have to keep continuing to replace.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's almost like quote unquote seeding.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yes, not really, but seeding in the sense of, you know,
you got to because a lot of those pellets that
get kicked up, they get lost, they get whatever displaced,
So you got to go back and kind of brush
them back in because what that does is help even
out the field turf, help keep it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You know, it makes sense. Yeah, it has a they
have a purpose.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But still, yeah, grass would be harder because you got
to water, you got to mow, it got to replace it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
As they replace it, big chunks.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Of it are missing, especially when it gets sloppy out,
which we think about it. You probably have a good
thirty percent of the season that's sloppy for Ohio Pro teams,
and I'm talking Cleveland and Cincinnati. You got some sloppy
weather that probably occurs from the slopping, like so the
field gets all busted up and tore up and you
(13:58):
know all that kind of stuffy ry.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, hey, you know there has been I remember this
happened last year that there were some players that were
blaming their injuries on these new synthetic turf fuelds. Of
course they're not like the old. You guys were just
talking about the astrodome, which was basically what they call
carpet on top of concrete, you know. And I remember
(14:24):
I think it was Terry Glenn for Hio State up
in Minnesota and an old, old dome that had one
of those surfaces, the carpet on top of concrete that
he made a famous catch where he basically bounced off
of that and probably broke a few things or whatever.
But there's there's been some talk. You can look it
up and there's a lot of the Players Association NFL
(14:45):
as I guess they've looked into it. There's been some
players that are blaming some of these uh you know,
soft tissue pulls and stuff on playing on those surfaces
because it gives and you just don't have as much.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You don't get the.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Same traction that you get on grass and stuff. But
it's there are there is some talk about that. I
have heard that.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, no question about it. I'm quite frankly, Gary, Thanks,
think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
When regular real grass and it's ten degrees out fifteen.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Degrees, that's getting ready to say it doesn't matter when
it gets cold and regular grass hurts anyway the ground's
frozen woo.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, to be brutal, but you're right. It's once it
gets down that cold, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Even the surface begins to not almost matter either.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Either way you go with that, that's exactly where it was,
synthetic or the real grass, all right, trafficking weather
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