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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Show.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, a lot of stuff breaking right now, and
we do have information on all of it.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Straight ahead, there is a a suspect game Luigi. Is
it Luigi MANGIONI yes, that is correct, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
He is in custody, is a suspect in the shooting
of the CEO United Healthcare CEO and they have him
in I think it's Altoona, Pennsylvania at a McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is where he was.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I don't know that he's still at the McDonald's. Yeah, yeah,
but they took him into custody. The very latest on
that is coming up because the manifesto part of it
has been released and there's all kinds of information about
him coming out.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Boy, with all of this information coming out, you would
think this has got to be the guy, right. I mean,
they're they're hopefully they're not getting this wrong.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
He's the alleged guy, right, But you would.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I mean, just because he's carrying the same gun and
shot the guy, carrying multiple identifications, one of which is
the way he used at the hospital. Just because he's
got a manifesto in his pocket explaining why he did
it doesn't make him the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
So anyway, the very latest on that is straight ahead,
and also a.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Little bit ago, Daniel Penny found not guilty of criminally
negligent homicide, which is the lesser charge, which was after
a more serious manslaughter charge was dismissed earlier in deliberations
because the jury was deadlocked on that count. So, uh,
there's a lot of stuff that is actually happening right now,

(01:44):
and as it's breaking, we'll bring you the very latest,
but the very latest on that in just a little while,
all right. So also some breaking news I guess from
yesterday and we'll get to that here in a second.
Roy Hall, who's part of our best Buckeye coverage, joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Now, are you brother on this Monday?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Man?

Speaker 6 (02:02):
I'm doing well just listening to you guys. You know,
I've been spending the last fifteen to twenty minutes trying
to catch up to all the craziness you got to
talk about. And it's nothing like committing a crazy crime,
a murder of a CEO, and then thinking to hisself,
you know what, before I go out, I'm gonna just
stop by McDonald's and get me a filet of fish
with extra tartar sauce. Let's just go ahead and let's

(02:23):
go ahead and do that.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's not terrible, you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hard to say exactly what was going on there, but
that could have been what he was having.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I could see.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I could see if Roy Hall was a detective in that,
he'd be like, can you tell me what he ordered?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I need to see a receipt?

Speaker 6 (02:40):
Oh man, I mean, my man is in line. First
of all, you do something awful, you take somebody's life,
the whole nation's after you, and you're like, you know what, man,
I just got to take that sweet and sour sauce
one more time?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Man? Like?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's crazy?

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, you know what, though, Roy, based on what is
being really east right now, this guy almost wanted to
be caught because he thinks he's in.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
The right here. Did want to because he's an.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Anti capitalist Chuck and I were talking about before he
went on. Chuck is of the thinking that this guy
wanted to be caught. He and then my question, my
next question is, so does he think a jury of
his peers are just gonna find him innocent? I mean,
he gotted the guy down, there's video of it on
the streets in cold blood.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
He just the judge jury and executioner.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't know, man, I it is hard to understand
why somebody or house somebody could think that. But then again,
if they are really thinking that, that that explains why
they just went ahead and did it. In their mind,
they're going, I'm justified this guy needed to go, you know.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chuck must be he's on to something,
because there's nothing you listen, there's nothing like pissing a
bunch of people off in the drive through than to
order like a double cheeseburger, no on you, no pickle,
and they got to send it back to the grill.
You want to piss some people off and get caught
and pull some attention to you order some special at McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Well that's why you had that gun with him in
case they said the ice cream machine was broken.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
He was prepared.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Make you know, they just changed.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
They just changed the law recently that you can actually
so before McDonald's had that, their ice cream machines stayed
broken because they had to go through the actual company
that made the.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ice cream ice cream machine.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Yeah, and so it took them like six to eight
months to get around to these independent uh McDonald's that
are franchised on us. But now they've changed the law,
probably about three months ago. I noticed because I used
to work at McDonald when I was fifteen and the
ice cream machine was broken back then too, and so
but now as an independent like a franchisee, you can
now get anybody to come in and for tration.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's about damn time that they do something like that,
because the fact that they go on a waiting list
is people. Man, I'm telling you, that's the ultimate source
of contention. You how many times we have been in
the summertime looking for something like that and we've gone
to like two or three different actual McDonald's. I'm not
kidding as a matter of fact, how we just found

(05:01):
I don't know, fill in the blank ice cream place
and just went there. We spent more gas going from McDonald's,
you know, saving trying to save money. But then also
McDonald's hot fudge is of the I could just drink
a glass of that or get a spoon and just
eat it. I don't know, there's something about that hot
fudge is different. It's the whole thing with McDonald Everything

(05:22):
tastes different there that at another place that would have
a similar types.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You know, uh, you know item or whatever.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
I've never had anything dairy orient and for McDonald's ever ever.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Why'm a frosty guy?

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Oh you're different living you need to get to it.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Mcflurry brother, he's seemed Wendy's I guess because he just said.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'm a frosty guy, especially when they had those ones
with the chocolate chips in him.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't remember that. This was so good.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, Vanilla Frosty, remember that.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
We all like a heavily viewed and listen to radio show.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Don't make noises like that, air brother.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Inspire me anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So did you watch any football of the college variety
over the weekend?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Roy, Yeah, I watched a little bit.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
Man.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
I checked out the Penn State Oregon game. It looked
like Oregon was playing and toying around with Penn State, like, Hey,
let's let's just run the score upoint you guys, let
you guys catch up, and let you guys know that
we can score at will whenever we want. Oregon looked
like the number one team in the nation. Obviously we
played them within the point or two or whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Some weeks back, Oregon looked dominant. Penn State looked okay, right,
they held their own to some degree, but they'll have
a nice little matchup. I think they played s m
U if I'm not mistaken, so you know, they they
kind of leoked out with.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Their path as well.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Watched a little bit of the Georgia Texas game.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That was a very very good game.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Those two teams are, you know, powerhouses. Man, they're fighting
and balloting it out. But as you can see the
way it turned out, man, Georgia was.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
The best team.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
So it actually sucked not watching Ohio State play at all,
you know, and we got to kind of lick our wounds.
We need to really get on that good feat dot
com so we can stop standing in pain because we've
been struggling over the last week. Man, just standing in
paying man, waiting for that opportunity to play. But I'm
thankful that we got at least an opponent now, a
target to put on their back, somebody to focus on.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Outside of losing that game.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I think Texas coaching staff is probably gonna tell Matthew
McConaughey to stay away now, probably like you're not allowed
to attend our games, let alone stand on our sidelines anymore.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You got to go away.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I understand you support the program and all of that,
but you're a bad luck charm, so just go away.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
You're right though.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
The Georgia Texas game was, man, that was good football
for my money, which was really no money, but that
was really good football to watch that battle it out
like that looked like either one could have ended up
on top. And then as far as Oregon Penn State,
I watched some of it till it started getting boring,
and you know, Oregon started pulling away and that was
what was that second quarter maybe or something like that

(08:03):
ended up being closer as far as the scorer I
thought with the Penn State Oregon, but so it wasn't
as close as the score indicates, which is eight points
in your mind, Roy.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Not really. I mean you have to if you watch
the game.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Oregon dominated that entire game, yeah, yeah, or would look
you know, oh, or they stayed within the touchdown, you know,
And I think Oregon may have been a ten point favorite,
so I don't know if they covered. But at the
end of the day, Oregon dominated that football game up front. Defensively,
they gave up a few scores, but when you're on
the neutral site, you guys have the history of watching
bowl games. For whatever reason, bowl games are high scoring.

(08:40):
I think the defenses just don't show up. You're on
nice weather, nice turf, nice dome. People tend to air
it out a little bit. A few years ago, we
played Georgia, if you remember, and it was a high
scoring game into the forties when we lost into midnight
and to go to the College Football National Championship. So
those bowl games, those neutral site games tend to be
high scoring.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
The cool thing is we did get.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
An extra week as buck guys to kind of not
just lick our wounds from a losing that game, but
also from a health standpoints. Also seeing three, four or
five people in the transfer portal already at least announcing
that they're leaving the program, we understand how that works now.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
So it's been kind of.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Busy in Buckett Nation at least trying to figure out
what we have going on next.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Would you say Devin Brown, the of course quarterback for
the Ohio State Buckeyes, number two? Would you say he
is the probably the highest profile that is that is
hitting the transfer portal, Because if he isn't, then I
apologize because I thought he really was, so, do you
have any specific thoughts about him?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I don't. I gotta be honest.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I don't blame him after three years with the Buckeye
I don't blame him knowing that he's probably not going
to be the guy next year. Or you know what, Actually, Roy,
I know you so well that I think you're gonna say, well,
you know what, No, I don't. I don't think he
should be entering it. You want to start, then try harder.
That's what you're gonna be say. I bet you, I.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Have to take the opposite you gotta be kidding in
the opposite. Wait, now, Devin Brown is the loyal If
a person in a loyal relationship that has been engaged
for thirteen years and they just will not commit and
they just sticking around, and then somebody just like, hey man,
there's another opportunity, man if you get out this relationship.

(10:23):
And that's where he is right now. Three years of loyalty,
working hard, busting his tail to get on the field,
and there's still other people in the field.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
That can take his spot.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
And so with him, you know, it's not his talent,
it's not his ability, it's just that there are other
people out there that can do his job just a
little bit better, or maybe the.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Pensive potential is a little bit better.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
And so you know, when you got the number one
quarterback in the nation coming in as a freshman. Last
year we had Aaron Nolan come in, you got Mrs
Staying back there waiting came from Alabama. And then you
still got you know, obviously Will Howard there, you got
Lincoln kinghost, so we still got a stack quarterback room.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw another guy left.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Just from the period.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
There's not enough room for everyone to play.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Saturday, December twenty first, eight o'clock, eight pm, Primetime, Baby
at the Horsesheel.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
The buck guys are welcoming.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
In in the first round the Tennessee Volunteers. Your thoughts
on the balls coming in and so on and so
forth with this.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Listen, listen, Blady. The only volunteers I like are the
volunteers that help during community outreach. Outside the volunteers is
helping without reaching the community.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I really don't give a damn.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
So like these guys coming in here with them lame
orange and cream orange cream sickle, you perform, Listen to
cream sickle or orange SODA's only good in the summertime,
not in the winter time. On December twenty first, it's
gonna be cold as hell in the shoe. You gonna
be layered up. The dude's gonna come up from Tennessee
thinking that they could come into the cold like it's
just cold. You're gonna have those people out there with

(11:49):
no shirts on, nipples all hard.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Man, this cold. You better put some You gotta put
some clothes on during warm up, man.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
And they gonna try and make a statement, and they
gonna get their doors bone off. We're gonna be pissed off,
We're gonna be hungry. It's gonna be a hostile environment.
Kailgateon's gonna be crazy, the barbecue is gonna be crazy,
and the shoe is gonna be on fire. I'm telling you, man,
we're gonna blow the doors off Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Man.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Now, the Buckeye seven and a half point favorites right
as of now. We'll see what happens if that line
moves at all. Where the money's coming in, so on
and so forth. So it sounds to me like you're
not even thinking Tennessee has half of a chance.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Same record as us.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I believe, and but the records really aren't going to reflect.
So you think for pound for pounds, skills sets and
skill positions and so on, that we're just superior to them.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
No, I respect I respect them.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
They coming from the SEC. There are only two losses
are from Arkansas and Georgia. But this is a home
game and we're coming off with lost in Michigan. You
know how pissed off they're gonna be. Revenge's nothing like revenge, man,
It's nothing like being a kid that's getting bullied and
picked on them when you get to high school. You
throwing them twenty five pounds because you lifted a couple
of weights and see that seam dude that tried to
run up on you, and then it's a different story, man.

(12:59):
So it's be payback time, get back time. And the
coaches are going to be motivated. Coach Ryan days here
and all the bark and all the talk and all
the division with the fans. Should he be fired, should
he get replaced? They're throwing out all types of crazy names.
They talk about Woody Hayes gonna come back and coach
what the hell is he doing?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Man?

Speaker 6 (13:16):
They want everybody to come and replace coach Day's like, Man,
this man is sixty six or sixty seven and ten.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Like what else do you want? Man? So they gonna
be fired up.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
So I respect.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Tennessee from a standpoint of their record, got him in
the playoffs, But when they come up here man and
getting this cold man, it's gonna be a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Did they get it right with the playoffs?

Speaker 6 (13:34):
That?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like everybody that's lined up and I don't expect you
to know all of them right off the top of
your head and all of that.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Was there anything that.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Jumped out at you that you went, what, like, you know,
as far as this whole situation with this being the
first year of the twelve team playoffs and so on,
and I know that you know that pretty much is
already was really kind of set.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
But is there anything off the top of your head
right now?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I guess it's kind of tough since no games have
technically been played yet.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah, I was kind of on the fence about the
Alabama SMU piece. Alabama is playing and probably arguably the
second best conference in the nation next to the Big
Ten not getting there, and they.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Did have three losses. It's hard to keep.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
SMU out, especially with that you know, field goal lost
to Clemson. But I don't know, man, it's just confusing.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's up in the air. You know. It's kind of.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
One of those debates like whether or not the mcribs
should be on the menu full tim the McDonald's, Like
I really don't know, Like it's something about it when.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
I eat it, like it's like.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Should I even be eating this because it's definitely not
a rib. I don't know what the hell I'm eating.
But on the other side, it just hates so good man.
So the SMU being or not, I don't know, it's confusing.
But when it's there, they're in there now.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Just like them rib is out right now, So just
enjoy it while they're there.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
As a matter of fact, when you think about the McRib,
do you think as you're taking a bite of it?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
As a matter of fact, I guess the answer.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Once again, I'm probably predicting your answer here that the
answer is no, you don't sit and think about it
because you go. Man, for I've never seen every rib.
They all look exactly the same. It's like is there
a mold? Like what did they pour in there to
get the same shape, and yeah, there's a little bit
of a question mark, I guess hovering over your head
of you.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
But you're right. They do, for the most part, taste good.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
But I'm only good for like one every once in
a while because I try a second one.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's like it's not doing it for me.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You could only eat one. Let me tell you this.
I know we're about to get off.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
The only reason I actually liked the nig rib is
the first time I had one.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
They made this value.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Mil when the original Flintstones movie came out with Holly Berry.
My goodness, man, when you a thirteen year old kid
and you see Holly Berry on the big screen and
she said, go eat a big rib.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
That's why I got a big rib.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You guys are You're not gonna be the best Bucky coverage.
You're not gonna be on like you were telling me
until the actual day of the game.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Correct on the twenty first. Is that what your understanding is?

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, we're gonna be getting after on the twenty first, man,
I think we should do a tailgate from the top
of wherever we are at the point on campus. It's
gonna be a minute.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
We're gonna do no Vine enemy I think too on.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
That show, I hope, because we're not doing bucks line unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right, Okay, very good. Roy Hall Driven Foundation is still
going full strength, right, I mean you guys are going
up till Christmas.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Correct, Yeah, man, we.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Plugging away December twenty first, actually the morning of the game,
we're gonna be delivering four hundred boxes a week's worth
of food to four hundred families all around the city.
We try and bridge the gap on those winter breaks,
and a lot of our families that we serve have
kids that are.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
On free lunches. So we're gonna have about one hundred.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
And seventy five volunteers giving away food. Go to state
driven dot org Stay driven dot org. Twenty five dollars
help speed a family for an entire week.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I encourage you guys to do it. All our listeners
too as well.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Outstanding.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
We'll bother you again before the game and Roy Hall,
Merry Christmas, thanks for coming on, brother, appreciate you Mary Christmas.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Grab a big rib Yeah all.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Right, man, we'll see ye.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Trading on this planet with him equates to a McRib
aw that someway.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
The file of fish and the McRib those are his
go to man Staples for that guy Staples, Hey.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Roy, what kind of CARDI you like? Which one comes
with the MiG reap? Yeah? Every choice?

Speaker 8 (17:06):
And on your Time Blazer Show podcasts on six '
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Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, I don't know if he wants to be called
doctor feel Good, but uh, Chief Meteorologist Marshall McPeak is
joining us now.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
Of course the reference to terrified as to where this
is going, Well, the song.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
That was just playing the bumper music is called Doctor
Fielden from Motley Crue.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's the title track from that. He's the one they
called doctor feel Good.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, he was scared we found out something. That's it.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
He's like wait a minute, Uh, gentlemen, you didn't run
this by me before.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
How do you know about that?

Speaker 10 (17:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right? Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
So uh and just like that at spring for two
days and then.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then I was just say a little bit ago.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Then winter reminds us on Wednesday that ah, we're headed
toward colder temperature.

Speaker 9 (17:58):
So yeah, you know, I was in the aftern editorial
meeting a few minutes ago and that was what.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
They're like, Hey, look it's spring again. I'm like, oh,
just you wait.

Speaker 9 (18:06):
Right, because you know, last year we had a winter
that was in general terms, pretty mild, right, and I
mean things fluctuated by ten degrees here and there, but
I mean it really wasn't all that dramatic this time.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I mean, we're.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
Going from fifties to twenties to back to fifties to
almost sixty to twenty. It's just crazy how back and
forth this is this season. So this is what we're
into for now. So today it's been very mild. We'll
drop to forty four overnight tonight, which mind you, is
warmer than our average highs for this time of the year. Right,

(18:44):
So we are really mild, patchy, fog overnight tonight into
Tuesday morning. Tuesday well murky for the morning commute. After
that we're cloudy, a few showers and fifty so again
above average. But then on Wednesday we get some rain,
snow mixed, and by Thursday a HI of only twenty four.
So the roller coaster continues. High's hi's how's.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
It going to be in the twenties with overnight lows
in the teens? Oh, book, I don't like it when
he talks nasty like that, all right, all right, Marshall
thank you very much. It is fifty four right now, Hi,
of twenty four. That's just as I'm patriotic right there.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, it's just it's like if we get to that
temperature and stay there all right, okay, you know, and
we fluctuate a little, not fifty five.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Come on, man.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
It actually between yesterday, today, and tomorrow, it's you know,
everything is thrown into a tailspin like your sinus. Everything
is just like, uh, hey, so we learned just a
little bit ago that they have Is he still being
called a suspect? Is he a person of interest? I mean,
what what is what is the what are they.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Saying right now? Chuck? Are you seeing that? Because I
you know, he changing with.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Regard to where you look, and it's literally changing by
the minute, if you will too.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
So well, anybody who's still calling this guy a suspect
is doing it to avoid lawsuits. There's pretty much no
doubt in anybody's mind, if you have any common sense whatsoever,
that this is the guy they got him at a McDonald's.
You probably already heard that one of the McDonald's employees
recognized him. God blessed them from the surveillance camera pictures
and called the police and said, I think his guy's

(20:26):
in here. His name is Luigi Mangioni. He is arrested
on gun charge. That was the most obvious thing they
could do is he had the gun in the McDonald's,
so he was eating in Altuna. The police come in.
He had the document on him, the manifesto. He had
at least four fake IDs, one of which was the

(20:46):
one that he used to check into that hostile earlier.
He had a backpack believed to belong to the suspect
in the killing, was found in Central Park, so they've
got him on those things. The gun that was in
his possession is apparently handmade. To the media in trying
to scare you has to call it a ghost gun.

(21:07):
He builded himself up and that's why obviously he used
it so efficiently. Even when it apparently jammed up on him,
he didn't even flinch. He was very used to it
because he had actually created the gun. So there's there's
very little at this point that is in doubt that
this is the guy, and we'll see what happens. We'll

(21:29):
keep using the word allegedly avoid lawsuits joining us.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now it's six to n WUTV and legal analyst and
host of for the Defense Brad Kopfles joining us. Hey Brad,
welcome again and early merry Christmas to you and thanks
for jumping on with us.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
Brother of course, of course same to you and always
awesome to be on with your listeners.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Thank you, right Chuck, Yeah yeah, meetings yeah, so yeah.
You you had sent me a text earlier, you go, Hey,
you're talking about the CEO assassin getting picked up. I
have major quest certainly when you know, you start kind
of reading down what is out there right now, which
we kind of just did, like a little synopsis of
there or what have you. But add to this, if

(22:11):
you would, your thoughts and so on, your questions and
all of those things.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
Well, one of the great aspects of AM radio is
that we all get to second guest what's being said.
And as a criminal defense lawyer for thirty thirty one years,
my whole career has been questioning what police say. There
are a lot of odd ball facts associated with this

(22:37):
that I think everyone is having. I would imagine they
were paying attention to the story, would ask yourself from
the beginning, why wasn't this guy wearing gloves? He could
have done more to conceal himself and obscure his identity
than he did. And then they hops on an e

(22:58):
bike to leave the scene. And those e bikes are
I think they're all tracked by you know, some sort
of computer system.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Uh. And then you go.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
Into Central Park and you dump your backpack in Central
Park and it's got monopoly money.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
And then we find out that, and then it kind
of goes cold. And then we find out some elderly
lady in Altoona, Pennsylvania called the cops saying, hey, I
think he's here.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
You look at his pic.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
I don't know, we're all looking at the same images.
I don't know how you could see any young man
walk into any McDonald's in the United States to go,
that's the guy that killed Brian Thompson. In that part
of Pennsylvania. It's where the Goffel family's from. Everyone kind
of looks like that. I mean, it's uh uh that

(23:49):
part of western Pa. And it's it's just I don't
know how this this this is the tip tipster said,
I think this is the guy, based up on the
images that are publicly available. Then they get them and
he's got a silencer, a gun, fake IDs his manifesto.

(24:13):
That all just seems way too convenient. Now, I'm not
suggesting the cops planet and that stuff on him. What
I'm saying is there's something else weird going on. And
then you find out that the name of this guy
and they can quickly identify him as being twenty six
years old. He went to an elite boarding school, cup
Boarding School. He's valedictorian, and then he goes and Ivy

(24:37):
League school. He gets a bachelor's degree in computer bachelor's
of Science and computer Engineering. He gets a master's in
computer science, computer engineering. There's obviously extremely smart guy. Then
there's the picture, the ubiquitous picture that's going to go
everywhere is he's hiking with his shirt off and he's jacked.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I mean, the guys.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
Looks like he just works out eighteen hours a day.
That guy isn't the type of guy that goes to
McDonald's eat. And if you're the subject of a man hunt,
I don't know why you're going on a greyhound and
or why you're going to McDonald's to go inside. There's
just too many little weird things that don't make any sense.

(25:20):
Those are you know, actually like, hey, you guys talking
about this day because there's a lot of things that
just don't make sense. He made it so easy to
get caught. But if you really just wanted to get caught,
why not just take that monopoly money that was in
the back of the backpack and dump it on the victim.
If your true mission was to raise awareness of maybe

(25:41):
AI the company is using AI to deny insurance claims,
which is one theory that kind of makes sense to me.
Why not just dump your monopoly money on top of
the guy and then scoot away or just hold your
hands up. Also knowing this manifesto, the early reports coming

(26:02):
out is this guy's never really published anything online or
social media that would indicate that he is an anti
capitalist anarchist.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, the things all of those things are, that's incredible,
All of the things that you've come up with there
that you're like, it's just you know, two and two
is not adding up to four in this situation. One
simple thing for me, somebody who doesn't do what you
do for a living, Brad, would be I go, wow,
this guy if in fact he does have those degrees

(26:33):
that you spoke of from an Ivy League school and
being an incredibly intelligent guy. It just doesn't seem like
for somebody so intelligent that he's and I know that's
really what you were doing demonstrating all of those different things.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
But that was the first thing I thought of.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I go, man, this guy for being as intelligent as
he has to be to have those degrees and so on.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's that's not adding up for me.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm like, man, it just seems like there were too
many loose ends or that he chucked. Chuck's theory is
is like, this guy wanted to get caught. Absolutely he thinks.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
That he is.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
He's done us all a favor is almost the way
that it seems like, right, I mean that's what you
were saying.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I mean what he's in the part of the manifesto
CNN already published, said, you know, this is something that
had to be done. He thought he was on some
sort of noble journey out there. He very flippant about it.
That would explain the monopoly money. He wanted some see me,
see me attention. If he wanted to run, he would
have been farther than out Tuna after all this time, right,

(27:31):
this is sixth son of a gun that he wanted
to have a little fun, make a point. But I
don't think there's any moral high ground here. I don't
think he's trying to protest for the poor people that
can't get treatment.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
He just doesn't like people making money. I really believe
that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 8 (27:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
Of course, we're all speculating, and you're certainly entiled to
your opinion.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
I disagree.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
He comes from a prominent family. He may be someone
who grew up been a prominent family and just sees
the total hypocrisy. He goes to Ivy League school and
you get you know, inequities. Equity is the big word
of the day, and he very much may have felt
as though there are institutional inequities in the insurance market.
They keep talking about, maybe a denial of coverage to

(28:19):
a loved one. You know, who knows. There's so much speculation,
there's there are more questions now with his apprehension than
there are answers. And and but Chuck, you're right, I
do think that he was if he was trying to
get caught, he did a pretty good job. And right

(28:42):
after this surveillance video was posted, I sent it over
to a friend of mine who's retired Navy seal, did
some gray man work with the alphabet agencies. I said,
what are your trained?

Speaker 8 (28:54):
I see here he goes.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
I said, is that a Tier one operator? He goes,
absolutely not. That's not a Tier one operator, and that
guy will get caught as a tier one operator. You'll
never hear from again.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
That is uh man, that's good. That's good, very good.
He is a host of for the defense. He's a
sixth n WTV and legal analyst, criminal defense attorney here
in town. And Brad, I appreciate you jumping on, especially
last minute like this incredibly insightful and really fascinating actually
to the way this is all being processed by all

(29:27):
the different minds and so on.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
But obviously we're gonna follow it. So thanks for jumping on.
Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yep, thanks to you, all right. Sorry I was I
was answering for you, Chuck. You would have said, yes,
thank you, Brad. Yes, I would have said, thank you, Brad.
That's very good. See we know each other so well.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Man pleaser show. All right, thanks very much for listening.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
In addition to former Deputy Age of Ohio, former DOJ
spokesman and media coach, Republican strategists. He's with media consultants
for Daniel Penny's team, and he's joining us now once again,
Mark Weaver, Welcome again to the Mark Blazer Show.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
How are you, sir.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
It's a great day for justice. Thanks for having me
back on Blazer.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, absolutely, so take me through.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
So what exactly as you know you're with media consultants
for Daniel Penny's team. What has it been like since, well,
leading up to this and then of course post him
being acquitted.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
Yeah. So I'm a lawyer and a part time prosecutor
here in Ohio, but I'm not a New York lawyer.
I work with the defense team who have been defending
Danny in court, so I've helped them with their media strategy.
I actually did the only interview that's been made public.
Danny interviewed with me, and we pushed out that video
where people could hear in his own words what happened

(30:58):
that day. As for gotten to know this young man,
he has become a good friend. Your listeners should know.
He is a faithful young man. He's been in the word,
he's been praying. He's very humble, just waiting for this
nightmare to be over so he can continue his life.
You may recall he was going to college for architecture

(31:19):
on the GI Bill when this all happened a year
and a half ago, and had to put his life
on hold, and today's the first day where he can
maybe get back to normal.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Do you think Mark that there is going to be like,
are they going to drag this somehow back into court
with some sort of an appeal or not an appeal?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
But will they try?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Will they try to get him with something else or
some sort of other And as you can tell, I'm
not an attorney, I don't know exactly how to word it,
but I think you understand what I'm trying to ask.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Of course, this is the same district attorney to charge
Donald Trump in that made up case in New York,
Alvin Bragg, so you wouldn't put it past him to
try to put Danny in prison again. Luckily, the double
jeopardy clause of the Constitution means once you've been acquitted
of a charge, you can't be brought again for another
criminal case. Now, Jordan Neely, the man who got on

(32:12):
that subway trained and threatened to kill people that day,
including women and children. His father who I think had
been out of Neely's life for a long time now
has come forward and said he's going to sue Danny
for money damages. So that's not a criminal case, but
he wants money from this Submarine corpsvette college student somehow
for this case. So luckily, we have a legal defense

(32:34):
fund that we've been we've had up now for a
year and a half on gifts and Go and we
have raised more than three point two million dollars in
small contributions from people all across the country, and we
will use that fund to help defend Dandy against this
civil lawsuit for money.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
And I was talking to Chuck about this before we
went on, and I was saying, you know, when you see,
for instance, the the Burn Loot murder, which is what
I say it stands for, Hank Newsom, the leader, Hank
Newsom calling for black vigilantes to get active following this acquittal,
and they turned this into a white black thing. And

(33:17):
it's it's always it seems like about this, whether or
not that Neely was out of line or any of
those things, that's what they are focusing on most. And
you know, Chuck, you said something that I was just like, hm,
you were like, there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Of money to be made out there. Absolutely, there's a
lot of money.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
And at the root of this your thoughts, Mark with
regard to that is is it only really about money?
I mean you kind of set it up there with
his dad, who it sounds like more or less is
a Strangely Neely's dad, you know, coming out with a
civil suit and it's going to be all about money.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, a little to my old friend Chuck there. Let's
recall this is, of course a tragedy. The Jordan Neely
shouldn't be dead. Nobody wants to see somebody die. But
he was the one who just decided to step on
that subway car and say he was going to kill
somebody on that car. It was a tragic choice he made,
but it's the one he's responsible for. It's already dangerous

(34:18):
enough in the New York City subways. Jordan Neely was
on a list that New York City kept of the
most dangerous homeless people in around the subways. Why he
wasn't being cared for in some other setting, I'm not
quite sure. We'll not or in prison since he had
numerous criminal convictions before this, But the notion that his
father now is somehow owed money by from Daniel Penny,

(34:40):
who stepped up and tried to protect the women and
children in that car. He had a tiger by the tail.
He's holding down this violent man. And as Danny told
me when I talked to him, he was praying. He
was literally praying for the police to arrive the moment
the subway doors opened, but it was several minutes later,
and Danny, who was growing tired of holding down this

(35:02):
very energetic, angry, violent man, just held on until police
finally arrived.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, so were you? Were you surprised at the verdict here?
And I know, like for myself as I you know, look,
as soon as you start looking at the facts of
this case right away you say to yourself, Okay, they
got it right. There's no question the fact that the
manslaughter charge was dismissed because of a deadlock, which means

(35:31):
somebody in there thought that he was guilty of manslaughter.
And I got to be honest in this landscape that
we live in now, and we have to operate in
Mark and I know Daniel was thinking that in the
middle of that probably most likely as he's holding this
guy he's probably in that same mindset, going, man, please
don't let anything crazy. Just let me hold this guy

(35:54):
until the cops get here, and then they can take
over and I can go on my way, or at
least give a statement or or or what have you.
The ultimate clearly, what he didn't want to happen is
what happened. And I think we enter the mind of
a lot of law enforcement officers in this day and
age when they roll up to a situation, especially when
we're talking I'm just gonna say it, a white officer
and they roll up on a scene where there is

(36:16):
a black purp there or somebody of interest, and you
got something that it looks like it's just going, oh
my gosh, please don't let this elevate to the unthinkable.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
But I thought, I think they got it right.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
But at the same time, I'm going, man, I was
actually kind of surprised, especially.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Knowing that they're they're thinking.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I feel like, you know, the people in charge, all
of the people in New York City and in charge
are going, man, this is going to set off all
kinds of response that we don't want.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
In different cities, yeah, it would have sent a very
sad message that they convicted him. What's really surprising to
me is every day while the jury was deliberating deliberating
outside the courthouse, they were active streaming for Daniel Penny.
It's reminiscent of the lynch mobs we saw outside of
courthouses in the eighteen hundreds all around the country that

(37:08):
were motivated by racial bloodlust. In this case, the races
were reversed. But anytime you hate somebody for their race,
it's despicable behavior and all of us should call it out.
Nothing that race was not part of this decision. Daniel
Penny's got involved to protect largely people of color, women

(37:29):
and children who were afraid on that subway car, and
he would have done it no matter who the person
threatening to kill these women and children were.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Were there any witnesses against him from the car or
with the exception of what the prosecutors created, I mean,
were there other people in the cards that he shouldn't
have done it?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Because I didn't see any of that.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
No.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
In fact, there's a great I think the Free Press
put out a great side by side of a TikTok
video meaning TikTok following the minutes, not actually TikTok the
app but the following the minutes of here's what was
happening for each person's video perspective, including the body cam,
and what you see is many of these victims, potential
victims of Jordan Neely, stayed behind to talk to the

(38:10):
police and say he was a hero. This man saved us.
And then several of them testified in front of the
grand jury. We have that transcript. The judge released it
and they were telling the grand jury, don't charge this guy.
He saved us. Some of them said they've never been
so frightened in their life as they were that moment
Jordan Neely said he was going to kill somebody on

(38:31):
that car.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
And in selecting the jury, was it seven women? If
I'm not mistaken on the jury, I'm assuming strategically there
you know these You've got seven people there that almost
assuredly were happy somebody stood up and protected and defended.
Did that Was that a boat of contention when it
came to jury selection or did the prosecution kind of

(38:54):
overlook that and allow it without question?

Speaker 7 (38:56):
We did a lot of work on jury selection. I
flew to New York and we did a lot of
search on the kind of thing you might expect focus groups, etc.
To see which kind of jurors would be most fair
for this case. And so it really didn't break down
by gender or race. A lot of it had to
do with how much time do you spend on the subway,
And luckily we had several of those steers who were
on that subway daily, where you should the record will

(39:17):
reflect now there are armed soldiers in the New York subway.
The governor had to send the National Garden after Daniel
Penny some weeks later. That's how dangerous it is in
the New York subways. They've got armed soldiers patrolling right now.
Where else in America do we have armed soldiers patrolling
public transit.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
He's with media consultants for Daniel Penny's team, Mark Weaver, Mark,
where can people go to view your conversation with Daniel Penny,
the one you spoke of at the beginning.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
I've pushed all these links out on my x feed
at Mark R. Weaver so they can not only see
the link to his defense fund, but also the video
that I interviewed him with where it's the only time
publicly he spoke about what happened. Now the police interviewed him.
That was played during the trial. But he's never done
any media interviews, you know, because obviously when you're in

(40:04):
the middle of a criminal trial, that's not something you
should do. But he did sit with me for an interview,
and they can find that on my x feet and
at Mark or Weaver probably from a day or two
ago is when I posted it.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
All right, Mark Weaver, thanks again for jumping on with us.
Appreciate you man. Thanks course, and the Mark Blazer Show
on six ' ten WTVN. You know, Chuck, you just
showed me. That's incredible. Tommy for of course from Tommy's Diner.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yes, uh.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And the police procession based well, not a procession, but
it's kind of.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yeah, just part of the funeral procession. Yeah, plenty of
law enforcement out there. Wonderful. I mean, I don't I'm
not rejoicing in anybody leaving this earth, especially somebody wonderful
like Tommy. But man, that's a beautiful turnout. Whoever posted
that to Facebook, thank you so very much because I've
got a big grin in my heart right now seeing
all that, all that goodwill and those people saying goodbye.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You're a fan of the cheese steak there.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Oh my gosh, yea, I'll have my Philly cheese steak
in the than the perfect onion rings.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
We never had a bad onion ring in tons. Yes, crispy,
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Let's just shut down, Zach take over, man Zee and
I are going to get some dat hey.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
And then also you were saying, his son is going
to continue, yeah, correct with the with that, So God
bless him and godspeed to that.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Because he was in there the other day, and you know,
it's good to see all the people showing up and
offering condolences and so forth. And he was in there
being being exactly what his dad was, walking table to table,
saying hi to people and making you feel comfortable.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
That is so cool, man. That element of today's society
is absent for the most part in most places.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Not only do you see somebody that's friendly like that
going around, let alone the owner of the place, if
you will. So Chief Meteorologist Marshall McPeek joining us. Now,
it's drizzily, it's grey, but you know what, it's in
the fifties. I mean this morning, you know, I run
out to the garage before I actually even stepped outside,
and it just noticeably warmer, even in the garage. I

(42:11):
was like, man, it is it is like almost spring
like out these you know, yesterday, and then of course
again today, and yeah, I don't know. It's it's a
nice little pause, if you will, when we were just
dealing with single digit wind chills not too long ago.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Marshall, Yeah, well, don't get used to it. A dead goine.

Speaker 9 (42:30):
It is all gonna change again, because we're gonna be
up and down and up and down again this week,
and it's just gonna keep on this pattern. It looks
like we're getting one cold front after another. So before
the front comes through, we warm up. The front comes
in and drags in that colder air, and so our
roller coaster moves on. Forty four overnight tonight, which is

(42:51):
warmer than our average highs for this time of the year,
patchy fog in the morning, fifty for the day tomorrow,
so it's gray and it's cloudy, scattered rain showers.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Still feels like spring.

Speaker 9 (43:03):
And then on Wednesday it's thirty six with some wintery
mix and twenty four on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
So yeah, and then it starts to warm up again
by the weekend.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I'm thinking about cutting my grass in the morning in
the backyard because it's thick, it's clumpy. I got a
bunch of leaves that could be cleaned up, and as
nice as it was today, I'm thinking I I just
might fire thing up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Marshall was saying, I know you were talking. I don't
know if it was tongue in cheek or whatever, but
you're talking about running that lawnmower over your lawn the.

Speaker 9 (43:32):
Week I was there, I was out there on Sunday.
There was a whole bunch of leaves that had to
be mulched up. So yeah, I got out there on
Sunday to do it. Chuck, I think your issue tomorrow
is that it's going to be so wet that it
might clog the mower on you.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Oh yeah, that's true. It was pretty pretty damp out
there today. Well maybe this weekend I'll give you a break.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
There you go, all right, Marshall, thank you. It is
fifty three right now. I got all those leaves. I
have no trees, love my neighbors. I do you sound
like you're trying to talk yourself into that.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yes, there's not a tree in my yard and I've
got leaves all over the yard, and every year I
look at that and just remember, I love my neighbors.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Uh, I'm not. I know we were we had some
oh do we We do have it.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So okay, so we're having trouble getting him through a
different way, but let's bring him on.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
He is uh, he's calling us the old way.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Is this the the tin cans with the string you're using?

Speaker 8 (44:33):
Alex, longtime listener, first time caller. Did I win the ticket?
I hope I won the ticket?

Speaker 5 (44:40):
You did?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
You want some tickets?

Speaker 6 (44:42):
You did?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Don't give me that opportunity. Do you remember what I
did to you?

Speaker 4 (44:49):
When when Mark and I years ago worked at different
stations and we were both doing morning shows. My phone
number in my studio was very close to the phone
number in his studio, and people would call, thinking they
were calling him trying to win stuff, and I would
tell them, yes, it's twenty minutes after six in the morning,
but come to the station and bang the hell out

(45:09):
of the back door.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Till I answer, yeah.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
Can anybody actually do it?

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I don't know if they ever did it or not.
He he never threatened me.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, I'll tell you that the station he's talking about
the studio was in the opposite side of the building
from where the back door was, so if people were
showing up there doing that, I was unaware. And then
there may have been somebody doing that that somebody in
the back of the building saw and then called the
police maybe or something along those lines, because we all
know everybody that just shows up early morning like that

(45:38):
is completely saying.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Oh, yeah, they're normal, They're very normal.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
So anyway, so Alex Stone from ABC News is joining
us now, and Alex's glad to see that a.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Tsunami did not heade your guys' direction. That's good.

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Yeah, from last week, thank you for your text messages.
You were very worried about us. But it quake didn't
do anything. It was way up north and out in
the ocean and there was no tsunami. So in the end,
you know, nothing really went on. But everybody was very
tense for a good hour, maybe hour and a half,
waiting for the you know, cause they give you times
and if it's gonna hit based on where the earthquakes

(46:16):
epicenter was and how big it was, did they know,
So you're like, okay, at eleven twenty one, it's gonna
hit so like eleven twenty one, you're sitting there going
wait for it, wait for it. Wait, oh okay, no,
didn't happen, and then and then it was over, and
then everybody continued on.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
At any point when something like this happens, Alex, do
you say to yourself and your wife, we gotta leave.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
We got to go further in left.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
We need to move to Ohio or one of my
friends is located.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
We got to move there because I'm tired of this.

Speaker 8 (46:47):
Well, no, for a couple of reasons. One because the
quake was like seven hundred miles north, there was nowhere
around us. And two I just look at our temperature
right now of seventy four degree, and I say.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
No, I'm sorry, we're having trouble with the phone mine.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, I know you've been through this a million times,
but you know what, I don't even want to give
it energy to go. You know is the next port? Okay,
So we'll just leave it. We'll just leave that laying there.
So this is interesting. I wondered if somebody was going
to cover this story. But and here you are with
regard to those drones in New Jersey and the stuff

(47:27):
that I that I was watching last week, look like
there were several and there were no explanations for anything
other than well, there's a testing facility in the area
or what have you. But this is an interesting story
to say the least.

Speaker 8 (47:42):
Yeah, it is weird. They don't know quite what it is.
It's not starlink satellite, so you know that you can
look up and see them in a line and they're
way up high. This is something else. But there is
some worry because it is in a county with a
military base and another county where President elect Trump's Bedminster
golf Club is. So there is the law enforcement part

(48:02):
of this keeping an eye on it. But for a
bunch of days now at night, these large drones have
been flying above areas of New Jersey, and they are
bigger than a hobbyist drone. Some of them when they
just kind of eyed all, they're silent, but when they're
moving they can sound like an airplane engine at times.
And it's not only one, it's a bunch of them
all around the area. And so the mayors of twenty

(48:25):
one towns in New Jersey, they have sent a letter
to the governor demanding action to figure out what is
going on. And the FAA has imposed drone flight restrictions
over the area. Well they investigate. This is Kate Perry.
She's been seeing them almost every night.

Speaker 11 (48:39):
Once you see one, you start being a few more
here and there, and then you can't unfee them.

Speaker 8 (48:44):
And Matt Morello is the mayor of Washington Township, New Jersey.

Speaker 7 (48:48):
The only information I have for law enforcement is that
they don't appear to preney threat, but we don't know who's.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Piloting, and sometimes they fly without noise. They're about six
feet across with lights, so they're not trying to go
stealth at all. They've got like airplane lights on them,
blinking red and green, and then other lights on them,
white lights, so people are seeing them. They're not trying
to hide. They've sparked all kinds of wild theories about
what they are, Kate Perry saying even that the locals

(49:14):
have theories that it's somebody trying to take their Christmas packages.

Speaker 11 (49:17):
Some people think that it's really advanced people looking to
steal packages off of people's porches for the holidays. But
these droning they do not look like something you can.

Speaker 8 (49:26):
Just buy a store and guys. Police say they are
aware of it. They have no idea where their drones
are coming from. They just kind of appear every night,
and for the people who live there, they say they're
freaked out about it.

Speaker 11 (49:35):
I don't feel too safe right now with these flying
overhead every single night.

Speaker 8 (49:40):
And the FBI says they're looking into it. They can't
there's no way to capture one of these things, and
shooting it down isn't really an option because they're so
high and you know, at nighttime, hard to tell exactly
where they are. But they're asking for people, if they
see them, to photograph them, and because they want to
get more detail on what they are and what brand
and what type on. So one day alone, there were

(50:00):
forty nine reported signings in New Jersey and the governor
said today he's taking a quote deadly seriously. Police filmed
one that they said they think was going about seventy
miles an hour, so that's pretty quick for a drone,
and then they say it was low and it was fast.
They do believe it was a drone. They don't think
it was a helicopter or an airplane of any kind

(50:22):
or something out of this world. They think it was
a drone, but they just don't know what kind of
drone they're dealing with, or if somebody is testing something
they don't know what it is, but they're trying to
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Are you buying what they're selling here?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Alex And just on a personal level, because I'm not
in this day and age where, for the love of God,
we had you know, we had Solly and we're going
to be in the Hudson. We had footage of that,
right and they knew exactly Like when when you it
just feels like in this day and that was how
long ago? In this day and age, I feel like

(50:54):
they know exactly what's going on, and everyone's going, well,
I have no idea what this is, especially when we're
talking about what you.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Say, forty nine of them yesterday or something along those lines.

Speaker 8 (51:03):
Yeah, yeah, forty nine sidings.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
Yeah. I Mean.

Speaker 8 (51:05):
The thing that doesn't make sense they if it wasn't
something more on the up and up, is that they
are they've gotten the lights of them that would be
legal for FAA kind of stuff of the red and
the green lights like airplanes have to have and helicopters
and everything else. So it seems something worldly because they
are adhering to FAA law about the navigational lights on them.

(51:30):
But they don't know. I mean, at least publicly they're
saying they don't know. It seems like the mayors don't
know at least because they say that they're completely in
the dark, and the police are just kind of shrugging
their shoulders there too. So is it something military related
or is it somebody working on some project or aliens
have gotten really good at following FAA law and navigational lights.

(51:51):
I don't know. I mean, there's no indcasion that they
do know, but they may and just not be informing
everybody what's going on. But they are looking the mayors
or said, look, can they find some way to scramble
this signal that is operating them? That would normally be
some kind of a radio signal, kind of like a
Wi Fi jammer, But could they jam that in the
area to try to make them come down so not

(52:13):
only not allow them to go up, but then they
could get one and try to figure out where it
came from and what brand it is and what they are.
But they haven't been able to do that, figure out
how they would do it over a big area. But
they've been seeing them almost every night.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Interesting Ilex down ABC News out of Los Angeles and Alex,
thank you very much and we'll talk again soon.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
You got it, see you man? It's kids. Yeah, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Look, they're not even doing anything illegal.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
They're properly lit. They're not violating any laws. Just people
are going.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Get First of all, New Jersey needs more rednecks in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
We take the drones down. But I'm just saying, yes exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Except I think they're up too high for shotgun. They're
out of shotgun range, and good luck with a rifle.
Come on, man, you gotta it's hard enough to hit well,
it's hard enough to hit skeet if it's you know,
and it's it's daylight when you do that, and it's
you know, moving much slower than.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
He's talking about. One of them was seventy mile. Here's
my thing.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Whoever's behind this knows that this is a story and
it's gotta be something that they're just going, huh.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I don't know, we just don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Come on, they know who there as there's somebody kid
that It's just like it's not adding up to me.
I'm like, how do you not when there's forty nine again.
I don't know how many they said forty nine siety.
I don't know how they didn't see simultaneously all forty nine.
I don't think so. Some duplicate there or whatever, But

(53:39):
I'm just not I'm not buying that. They're like, yeah,
we don't, we don't wantever any I do.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Come on, give me a break. Scully and Moulder will
be there. Eventually, we'll get it figured out.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I love it.