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Speaker 1 (00:18):
All right, let's do this H two one w U
TV and one eight hundred and six n w U TVN.
It is technically hump Day. But I think you're you're well,
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You celebrate it all all gone it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It seems like you're not ready to do, uh, anything
of the sort.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And uh, I didn't even have the hump tree up.
I mean, what what do you do?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
By the way, let me see the Uh you're missing
the one the one side of your glasses.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
To the back. I've forgotten my real glasses at home, right,
So in my my little cubby cabinet thing here at
the station, I keep a pair of dollars store reading glasses.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Which, by the way, fifty cent. Now they're not even
dollar because they're missing part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I pull him out, I put him on, and the
the ear thing falls off. So yeah, I got I
got glasses on with one ear And the sadness it
really comes in when you realize that my head is
so big it's holding them on anyway, which which the
tree isn't up.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm just does look a little bit better than when
you had a zip tie on your headphones.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
See I did have the zip tie on the headphones.
I am a West Sider. We do what we need
to do when it needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And your duct tail duct tape belt is so good
to thank you. I have to throw that in.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You have put so many holes using a drill in
my belt. As the weight has come off over the
months I have I just drill new holes in.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You are absolutely a national treasure. That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, Well, when they find out that's what the treasure is,
the book is going to be a non zellar.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I didn't realize he's just going it's all at his quo.
We're going on the air, and I look up as
we're talking because I had my head down just you know,
jotting down notes and whatnot, getting ready to go. And
then I look up and I realize, first of all,
the glasses that he have on they look like they're
and don't take this the wrong way, they look like
(02:16):
they're basically for like a four or five six year old.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Normal size glasses on an abnormally large head. I'm not
gonna lie about that.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So the what are these called, the I.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Don't know, the things.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That hold them on on the side that are attached
to the actual lenses that go along the side rest
on your ear.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's really nice. This is tortoiseshell too. I think I
will put this on Facebook Marketplace. I get a few
bucks out of it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He's got these on and the glasses are they're not
even close to wide enough for your face. And then
those things that run along the side and rest on
your ears, they're like stretched. The middle part that rests
on the bridge of your nose is like it's like
bode toward because they're just too small.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's what makes it tortoiseshell. They were all black before
I stretched them around my skull, and as you stretch them,
the colors separate. This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And then I realize he's only got the left side
holding on the right side is completely missing, and somehow
they're staying on your face. I don't even understand.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Gravity's a wonderful thing. My head has its own gravitational field.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Twenty three twenty three West Fifth Avenue, Sweet two hundred
four three two zero four. I believe it's our zip code.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You're calling for the emergency optometrist visit?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Is that? What?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
If somebody would like to mail Chuck some some readers
are those just they're not script right, they're not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Just no, these are just the.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I know Chuck would be very very happy.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh if you.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Sent him and buy them for an adult, if they
have adult sizes when you go, please, what's the trouble?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Apparently everybody who shops at the dollar Store for these
has extraordinarily small heads, because that's all they ever have.
But I can see through.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Them a kint Zach, I can't look at them. It's
so funny.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Zach is actually up over his console peering through the
window to try to see this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I wanted to come in and look, but I can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That is so sad. Thet I can see, that's what's on.
It's not how it looks, it's what I can see.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That is good because you do need to be able
to read while we're on the air.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's good. Oh my gosh, man.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Ever a dull moment in this building. I love it
so fantastic.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I started off with a custerday, Claire, so I'll be
good no matter what happens to me.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So yeah, you took us right into what I wanted
to do. My friends over at Aldino's Bakery, Marco and
his whole gang over there. I mean, I'm telling you so,
you know, Marco and some of his other family member,
they are their listeners, and they will occasionally communicate with
(04:53):
me direct message on Facebook. And so going back and
forth with Marco the other day and he's talking about, Hey,
I'm going to bring some stuff up to you guys,
I'm like, oh, that's great. We love stuff, especially when
it's coming from Audinos. And then I said, you know,
why don't I just stop over your place? Whereas it's
on Clara, which is off of eleventh right there, off
(05:14):
seventy one.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's one of those forgotten little streets, so if you
don't know you're looking for it, you'll miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Correct and guess who used to live on the You're
going to die when you find On a side note,
I'll get back to Audinos in a second. We're looking
we're getting ready to go on the Nickel tour, and
he goes, uh, you know, he goes, hey, so, you know,
how did you get started in radio? I go, well,
a million years ago, Chuck, and I actually went to
broadcasting school. And I go the reason I started at
(05:39):
this broadcasting school was, once upon a time I worked
at a tuxedo place, and I said, there was a
guy that came in with a lead box for the
American School of Broadcasting. And I said, this is all
true story, and he goes, yeah, I swear to you.
He says this to me. Marco says this to me today.
It wasn't Earl Bailey, was this it was? I said, yes,
(06:01):
it was Earl Bailey. I said, I can't. He was
this fledgling station, Fox twenty eight. And he's, you know,
brings this in. I'm like, wow, it's Earl Bailey and
he's like, he lived right there. He we look out
the front. There's a double right there on the corner
of Clara and eleven. And he says he lived on
(06:22):
the left side there. God rest his soul before he passed.
He literally lived there. And he lived there while he
was working getting Fox twenty and he was going and
he said he lived right there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I said, you've got to be kidding at this. That's
why the school was on Cleveland is because he could
walk to work if he wanted to. It wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You know what That makes sense, Yeah, that makes it.
I didn't even think about that, dude. I was flipping
out I was like, I cannot believe this is wow,
it's crazy, right, so crazy. But anyway, this place, you know,
here's the thing. People listening now are probably like, you know,
oh yeah, al Dino's Bakery. They've been going at it
since nineteen sixty eight. And I was I was not
(06:58):
priving him much. My father law loves Adinos. They supply
to like four or five hundred different restaurants. It's ridiculous
how much you know, the sub buns for pizza places,
and rolls for Italian joints and all these plays. Then
they've got all this fantastic the bakery part of this,
I mean, and then he starts showing me. I walked through, chuck.
(07:20):
It was fascinating. If the smell would have probably flattened me.
Fascinating to watch all of the things that are going
on in there with regard to the bread excuse me
being made. He said, they're bakers. Come in at ten o'clock.
He showed me the ovens where they put these huge
racks in and they wheel them in and that's how
they cook, and it's this machine's just churning these out.
(07:42):
He goes, yeah, we get eighteen thousand of those I
think it's a day or an hour. I think a
day may or I I see he threw so much
at me. I'm sorry, I'm having trouble. You know, just
regurgit heat.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You get a real bakery like that, It's incredible. Believe
they can turn out the number, the sheer volume and
keep the quality that they do. That's it was incredible.
I mean, I've been into that donut. What is it?
How old is it been on a shelf for five
six hours?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
As if that?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And it tastes like it is sept for the warmth
was fresh from the evident. It was great.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Absolutely, that's how their stuff is. But they had people,
you know, flying in and out of there the whole
time I was there. But anyway, thank you, you guys
are very generous. Thank you for listening, and thank you
for being a Columbus staple. And there's so little everything. Listen,
there's a place for big box, big bakery, big all
that stuff. But I'm very very thankful that we still
(08:37):
have these places that are around. Absolutely, and it was
amazing to just walk through and see all other people
that were there from I swear to you from age
eighteen sixteen in that place, all the way up to
probably in their eighties that we're working in there. It
was nuts. It was so cool, very cool. Something that
was not cool was last night, of course, there was
(08:59):
a shoe shoting in New Albany. Bruce Reginald Foster, the
third is the suspect. He was arrested at a home
in Columbus earlier about ten am or so this morning.
An apartment complex on the in the short north fifty
east seventh Avenue. They gave the address in this article
(09:20):
and it's a peer apartment complex. And yeah, so this
guy was staying. They looked for him for quite a while.
So one person has died, five others suffered injuries in
the shooting. One hundred and fifty people or so were present.
They have not released the victim's identity yet. They haven't
(09:41):
given update on the conditions of the five surviving victims.
All of that. From what I understand, there's going to
be a presser coming up here in just a little
while with the Chief of New Albany Police and Greg
Jones and then the mayor there of New Albany. So
they're going to be doing that and we're going to
talk to the chief here at some point as well,
(10:03):
and you know, we'll get the very latest on this,
what exactly happened and so on. They were at KDC one. Now,
when you saw this on the news, when you saw
the shooting and you saw KDC.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
One, did you know what it was? Because I didn't, Okay,
I didn't even think it was here. I mean, you know,
the queen as I woke up there, she goes, oh,
we got somebody shot a bunch of people. Oh my gosh. Really,
And I didn't even the sound of the story made
me think it wasn't even here. I just couldn't. It
was hard for me to grasp what I got fully awake,
that that was here in central Ohio yep, yep, in
(10:37):
New Albany and the KDC what is something I'd never
even you know, I've never heard that name before.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, it's Knowlton Development Corporation. It's a global leader in
providing the value added solutions to brands and the beauty,
personal care, and home care categories. KDC one also operates
twenty seven research and development labs and innovation centers. According
to the what I'm looking at. Their headquarters is in Quebec, Quebec,
(11:11):
and they employed more than fifteen thousand people across twenty
four facilities.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Around the world. This is a major concern. I've never
heard the name. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah, just kind of looking over this, Yeah, employees
interviewed by I saw Mike McCarthy this morning saying on
Good Day Columbus that he was reporting that some of
the people working there were not even aware that a
shooting had taken place because it's such a big place
that even while the shooting I believe occurred on the inside,
(11:45):
they didn't even hear it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's how big this place is. Old warehouse situation. You
got one hundred and fifty people working in there. Last
I heard at least that nobody saw any kind of
confrontation or fight going on. There was no reason to
think something crazy was going to happen. And yeah, they
might have just thought it was machinery banging. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah. There's a spokesperson for Mount Carmel Health confirming for
patients receiving treatment at Mount Carmel least, of course, they
can't give any names for obvious reasons patient privacy. He
was an employee at the new Albany Warehouse. He'd been
at work for some time and it was a targeted attack,
(12:27):
according to the chief there, according to Chief Greg Jones
for the New Albany Police, Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Off the air. We'll find out as things progress. But
I told you off the air what I think we'll
probably find out. I'm going to keep my mouse shut
till we find out.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you're probably not far off what you were saying there.
Although we haven't been given the sexes of anybody who's
been shot, and we certainly don't know of the person
who's deceased, well at least I haven't seen that, have you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Have you seen?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, no, I haven't. But I don't think gender even
plays a role in this. I've seen some other pictures
of the of the person accused of this.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Bruce Reginald Fosster, the third. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, so I don't know necessarily that gender plays a
role there.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He I think he was he went to was I
seeing and oh he went to Brookhaven from twenty ten
to twenty fourteen. Former Columbus City School student. He went
to Brookhaven. So anyway, that's you know, some of the
things that are out there and available now. And yeah,
like I said, at some point here, we'll we'll hear
(13:35):
from do Albdy Police Chief Greg Jones. I'll be interested
to Yeah, I got a bunch of questions, and I'm
sure you do too, so on and so forth. A
lot of people like motive. That's the first thing you
do in these situations. You go there was why how
many people were shot? Like what happened? Why? Everyone wants
to know why instantly. Then you want to know. They
(13:56):
said they did recover a handgun, but they didn't indicate,
you know, necessarily, was that the one, what type of caliber?
All of those things. So there's there's still a lot
of information.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That we need that we want to find out about.
So and nothing will happen during this afternoon that we
don't know about. Trust me. Oh yeah, if it happens,
we'll boom. We're on it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
We are off, no doubt about that. We will. We
will bring it to you immediately.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Prat Weather Sports and the Mark Blazer Show on six
y ten WTVN.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, bad news for the Jackets last night. They lose
the second of the four road games and uh yeah,
versus the Sabers in Buffalo and uh yeah, it's one
of the sickest goals I've ever seen in my life
was from Ken Johnson though. And I don't know if
you heard about this or saw anything about it, Chuck,
(14:48):
but it did not. It was unbelievable. kJ was coming
across the ice, he was by himself, he had a
defender on him, and then he ended up. You know,
it was just the defender who started to move kind
of into position to get between him and the goal.
So he puts on the brakes. He just you know,
they almost like a skier when they turned sideways and yeah,
(15:09):
you know the snow. He's like and he literally, here's
like where your monitor is right now is the goal
and he's like there and he he's he does that,
He puts on the brakes. The defender starts to stop
and he flips around literally like this, and there's the goal.
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He flips around in backhands like this and it goes.
He buries it. I mean, wow, the goalie had no chance.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That was was that?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Was that skill or complete luck?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Well?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
A lot of skill, but but the goal. I don't
know if he did that ten times, how many times
you would score. So there's some luck involved, But make
no mistake, Ken Johnson's a wizard. Okay. So anyway, it
was incredible.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Just watching you twist and turn over there and describing it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It was incredible. Chief Media wologists Marshall McPeak.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Him again, this guy eighty one in Tampa right now,
go ahead, now say what you need to say, Marshall.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Chuck, don't be that guy that one. Don't be that
guy that blames Marshall's.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Marshall pays for this stuff because he likes having you.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, he's extra to get it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, stop it. We don't want Marshall to stop coming
on the show.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do we payroll? You're on, but you're making it happen.
And you know you are anyway, you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Know, because when people come at me with that, I'm
usually like, okay, So if.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I were able to control the weather, yes, would I
pick freezing rain and snow? Or would I pick Sonny
in seventies.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Blisters? That's martial.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We'd we'd be looking at like, you know, all right,
so let's uh we uh oh. I just saw that
we've got a guest that we're going to be getting
here to here momentarily. But Marshall, I do know we
have weather. What is the timing on this? The freezing
rain and such that we've got now, oh it's let
(17:12):
me look right now.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
So this is actually moving into western Franklin County as
we speak.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So we're looking at some of the traffic cameras.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
We're already seeing some snow showers out there on ice
seventy and seventy one. To the west and southwest of
the city. There is freezing rain already starting to happen
in Circleville and Asheville, and there is plenty more of
that off to our west. Dayton and Cincinnati are dealing
with it already. More of that is coming up seventy
and seventy one headed our direction. So we're going to
(17:42):
start seeing some precipitation in various forms in the next
even thirty minutes, and then it continues during the evening.
A winter weather advisory goes into effect for the rest
of the evening and through most of the overnight hours
because some of this is freezing rain that will create
an icy glaze. Then we put some rain on top
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of that, which means ice with wet surfaces on top
of that is exceedingly slippery. Temperatures will actually climb during
the overnight hours tonight. Then the ice ends early, the
rain comes to an end Thursday morning and Thursday afternoon
we climb to fifty degrees. So it's a mess for
a few hours tonight and then tomorrow there's some improvement.
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Friday thirty seven and mostly cloudy. Marshall, thank you. Thirty
four Right now.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Last night at about ten thirty KADC one, which is
on Smith's Mill Road in far western Licking County in
New Albany, there was a shooting. The suspect is finally
in custody. Right around ten am this morning, they were
able to take him into custody and so charged at
this point. Well, I don't know if he's been charged yet,
(18:51):
but right now it's being reported that one a total
of six were shot. One is dead and then there
were five others who are wounded right now. And yeah,
it had I guess he worked at KATIEC One and
he had been there and this was being called a
targeted attack, and it was being called a targeted attack
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from New Almany Police Chief Greg Jones, and he is
joining us right now. Police Chief Greg Jones of New Albany,
welcome for the first time to the Mark Blazer Show. Chief,
thanks for joining.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Us, no problem, Thanks man, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
For jumping on with us, and uh yeah, obviously an
incredibly tragic situation that happened. And can you tell us
at this point, I mean, we know it is the
victim count at this point, is everything the same as
far as that goes, or is there any new information?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
At this point, I can only show that their victim
count is still the same five or off live and
one was deceased on the scene.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay. And then do you have names of those people
as of yet?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
You know, because of some some rules, were not able
to release those names at this point. You know, the
families have a right to try to keep their disclosed
for some time, so I don't have those available at
that time to to share, Okay, And I can tell
you I can tell you that the all the victims
were male, So all.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Six people were male, including the one that has deceased, correct, yeah, okay.
And then at this point is there I mean I
saw earlier from your press release, your press conference, I
should say that you know they he had been at
work for some time, he was an employee there. You
called this a targeted attack. What was there, you know,
(20:37):
a motive for this? Do we know was there arguments
where anything, Has anything come into focus with regard to that, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I think that. Originally we know there was approx. One
hundred and fifty people working in the building, and speaking
with witnesses and other staff, there didn't appear to be
an obvious motive. There was no confrontation or no, he
wasn't in trouble at work. However, as he continued to
the investigation, and you know, we continue to try to
develop the motives and hopefully can share that at some
point in time.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, the there was it was it a handgun that
was used. It was that recovered?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Correct, It was a handgun and it was recovered of
the scene.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, okay, and what kind of what caliber? Do you
know any of that kind of stuff as of yet? Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Right now, we are tracing the origins of the gun,
So at this point we're not able to share that.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And then the as far as the shooter goes, did
he act alone? Was there anybody? Is there any reason
to believe there's anybody else with him?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:34):
We we do believe he acted alone. You know, you know,
when you have a situation like that going on with
that many people in such a large building, you know,
we get conflicting stories of of what is occurring, But
it didn't take us long to actually determine that he
was acting alone and we were able to rule out
any type of accomplish.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
We're talking to New Albany Police Chief Greg Jones joining
us now. Of course, shooting happened last night where one
is deceased in five others have been shot as far
as this the suspect Bruce Reginald Foster, the third who
was taken into custody, I believe about ten am is
what I was reading at the Peer apartment complex on
the North Side that was earlier today. What did you
(22:16):
hear about when they took him into did he was here?
Was there anything that happened when they tried it? Was
it peaceful when they took him into custody, anything like that?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
So there there he did, didn't comply with orders and
there was not less than lethal forced views. There's no
injuries involved, and he was taken into custody other than
that without without any type of issue and without any
law enforcement offer of being heard. So we had actually
since the shooting had happened, it we had developed a
(22:47):
person of interest. As we spoke with the staff and
review cameras, and then throughout the night we had executed
a couple of search warrants at locations we thought we
might be able to find him, and so a little
bit of a process, process of elimination and the use
of technology, were actually able to locate him in the
in the morning hours.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Hey, it was being reported to earlier chief that there
were people that were in that building that were unaware
that a shooting even happened, even though it did occur
inside the building.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Correct, yes, correct, And you know, it's a light manufacturing building,
so it's not your typical like an office building with
a bunch of offices. So it's open and there's a
lot of machinery running. And so even when the building
was shut down because of this incident, it's still a
very there's still a lot of noise in the building,
so it's perfectly understandable of being in there that they
(23:39):
sparked the building would't even know anything's going on. We
were able to luckily evacuate everybody very quickly, and so
the of the one hundred and fifty approximately people in
the building, we were able to evacuate them safely to
a facility across the street.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So this is a KDC. One is a twenty four
hour facility there. In other words, there are you know,
different shifts that work around the clock there. Correct. And
then I also read this too, Chief that this guy
has basically no significant criminal history as well. Are you
is that what you believe as well to be true?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Yeah, he in checking his criminal history, doesn't have any
criminal history. I think that from what it appeared that
there may have been times ree Key in contact with
law enforcement, but nothing resulting in a criminal history.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All right, So New Albandy Police Chief Greg Jones, I
want to thank you so much for jumping on with
us today. I know you're probably running on pure adrenaline.
I have it on good authority that you haven't even slept, sir,
so I I really appreciate you taking time to jump.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
On with us today.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Problem Mark, no problem. I appreciate it. And you guys
stay safe.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Thank you so much. Appreciate you. All right, thank you?
All right, there he is New Albany Police Chief Greg Jones.
Who yeah, he isn't even he hasn't even slept yet, So.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, we had more time with him. I'm really is
as to how the officers are doing. I mean, this
is not something that's normal for New Albany. You know,
you're ready to switch shifts at the end of the
night and then move. You've got something like this on
your radar. And I know Franklin County Shares deputies were
up there, Licking County, I'm assuming had deputies up there.
I just I hope everybody, you know, they're doing okay
and this isn't too much of a trauma. They're professionals,
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but man, sometimes you got to step outside of your
normal right and do something that's really out of the ordinary,
and you worry more about the officers sometimes you do
the general public.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But here's the thing too, to remember with this these guys,
the officers respond, he's gone, and certainly there's one dead,
and then other people who are now being whisked away
from the scene. But they weren't there in a fight,
a gunfight so on. It's kind of to what you
were talking about. But you're right, they're not used to
responding to something like this that doesn't happen in New Albany,
(25:49):
as they say, you know, so huge thanks to New
Albany Police Chief Greg Jones for jumping on with us
just now. The Mark Poler Show. All right, let's uh,
let's bring in Don Ross, the retirement boss, who's joining
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us from somewhere warmer than where we are. And oh
my god, sounds like a bathroom.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
He's joining us from.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Don Are you there, Oh there you are, Okay, We're
just like there was like some crazy sound when you
just came on. It was like sound like a toilet flushing.
I'll say it so, I'm sure you.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Know that's that's interesting because I tried to mute it.
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Don stand by. We're going to also bring in Meg
Christy from ABC News investigative journalist, and Meg is joining
us now. Meg, welcome to the Mark Blazer Show. Thanks
for dropping on.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, so, tell us about you know, color me not
surprised by the way that there have been multiple close
calls in this area. But pilots have been warned about
safety concerns here at Reagan for decades, it turns out.
But give us the latest on this if you would please.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah. So, we have been doing a deep dive since
the tragic accident last week looking at what pilots were
concerned about, specifically at DCA, going over a number of years,
and what we found were fifteen relevant incident reports that
pilots and air traffic controllers had submitted to a database
(27:32):
that's called the Aviation Safety Reporting System. This is actually
a public system. Anyone can go on and look up
these reports. It was a program that was established by
the SAA a number of years ago, nineteen seventy six,
and the purpose was to enable professionals within the aviation
community to voluntarily and confidentially report their safety concerns. So
(27:56):
these incident reports are stripped of identifying information. So for instance,
we'll know we'll see that one was, you know, detailing
an incident a near missed collision miss air collision between
say a helicopter in a regional jet or something to
that nature. We have that information. We don't know what
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airline it was and exactly when it took place. But
what we are able to ascertain from these reports is
at pilots, a number of them going back to nineteen
ninety one, we're submitting safety reports to authority saying there
is a real problem here in terms of close calls
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between helicopters and airplanes at CCA and urging something to
be done.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, this is not to me not surprising of it
that we have, you know, learning about this now and
this being the first time in history where a helicopter
was involved with a commercial airliner at this you know,
and this type of horrific accident. But then I saw, too, Meg,
that there are a number of other reports of safety
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incidents associated with this exact runway, runway thirty three.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
That's right, There were at least four reports we looked
at of safety incidents associated with this specific runway. You know,
maybe the most compelling example that unfortunately is euerally close
to what happened happened last week is a report that
came in in twenty fifteen, and this was from a
(29:37):
fight crew other regional jets that reported a near mid
air collision when it was switched from landing on runway
one to runway thirty three. And just a reminder, that's
exactly what happened with American Airlines flight five three four
two last week. They were lining up for runway one
and then we're switched to runway thirty three in order
(29:59):
to keep track moving. And that's a common practice that Cca,
and you know, I'm sure anyone who's flowed notes that
happens from time to time, but they are fite Crow
then reported that they came within very close contact of
a helicopter in the air at about four hundred feet
off the ground, to the point where the pilot monitoring
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had to take the controls in order to make a
correction and prevent it from becoming a mid air collision.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know, quite frankly, all of this information, Meg is
to me not really that surprising. What's really surprising is
we haven't had something as catastrophic as we witnessed last
week happened as of yet. So it felt like, based
on this information and how long it's going back to
you alluded to nineteen ninety one, that I'm shocked that
(30:48):
we haven't had anything happen something like we witnessed as
of yet, And it felt like, knowing all of this now,
it's like, well, this was just a matter of time,
But it took a long time for something like this
to happen, and unfortunately.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
It finally has I know, and you know, that sentiment
is one that was shared by two former pilots who
are now aviation consultants with ABC News. They examined all
of these reports that I found and they said the
same thing, that basically these were dressed rehearsals, these incidents
were dressed rehearsals for what happened last week, and that
(31:22):
they were surprised too that something hadn't happened earlier. And
you know, two of these reports have the exact quote
in them where the pilots warned that this was an
accident waiting to happen. Yeah, and unfortunately it did.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, very very sad. Meg Christy, ABC News Investigative Journalists. Meg,
thank you very much for joining us today. Appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Thanks guys much.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, see ya.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
What we're hearing there is the equivalent of he was
on our radar, which always annoys me. If you've had
you've had these concerns since nineteen ninety one. Pilots have
been expressing since nineteen nine, whether it's the military that
needs to adjust their training, the FA that needs to
adjust the airspace, whoever needs to do something, didn't do
something since nineteen ninety one. I'm telling you, man, it's
(32:08):
the same thing as he's on our radar. I get
sick of that excuse. If you've known this as a problem, yep,
it should have been here.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Here's what I here's what I predict or I'm thinking probably,
and Don Ross, the retirement boss, is joining us now.
Who flew that exact heilo in the army and who
we talked to last week when all this unfolded. But Don,
I don't know when you're hearing this stuff, you know,
like the report you just were listening to with Meg,
I'm not surprised. But I also think too, Chuck, that
(32:36):
there have been plenty of pilots, commercial airline pilots who
were like, hey, this is this is unacceptable, this is crazy,
you know whatever it is they reported, and they were
probably told just shut up. It's our military. We have
to practice. We've got to do this because of the
tight quarters and the way that they have to fly.
There's no other way to practice this than to be there.
(32:59):
We've got it, We've got it under control. You know,
the tower knows how to do this, they know how.
Everyone knows how. And then it turns out you have
somebody who and is it your understanding, Don, with the
the one pilot that she was like five hundred hours
or so of flying time at this point and so on,
that is that that's is that a lot? I mean
(33:20):
it seems like that's not a lot of time to
be flying something that is that requires such intricacy.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Well, actually that you know that, that's that's a pretty
fair amount of time. The uh. I don't know what
the captain had, but you know, one of the things.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I know is I feel based on flying at night
missions was you know they could have had a second
crew chief in the back. Now, I'm not going to
point fingers, and it's ultimately always the pilot's job to
see and avoid whether it's the instrument made a lot
of conditions like clouds and frankly other aircraft and the
end of problem is when you're flying in a familiar area,
(33:59):
sometimes things can be like oh, been there, done that,
and that can be very dangerous, kind of like the
Kobe Bryant accident.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I'm pretty sure that pilot was like, Hey, I've been here,
done that. I can fly lower, you know, I know
where mountains are, and that can be the kiss of death.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
When we read what are what's called our flight facts,
it's what the military puts out and it categorized all
different accidents and what happened, and a lot of times
you can have high time pilots have accidents, but there's
just so many things and why we call it an accident.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
We maybe figured this out for weeks and months ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I also read too that they were given two full
minutes roughly to adjust where they were flying. And again
this was this has not been something that is one
hundred percent confirmed. I just heard this being reported, and
I don't know again how much legitimacy there is to that.
(34:54):
And then also I heard that the ceiling there is
two hundred feet and they were operating in the three
between three and four hundred feet.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Region, Yeah, that is too close, that is what I mean.
That's only a couple hundred feet. That seems like way
too close to me.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Well, see that, that's that's you know, that's why I
love systems. I love flying instruments, because you know, if
I'm off twenty feet, you know, that's a that's an
adjustment with the power we call the power.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
That's your collective.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
So again, I think it's cockpit crew coordination, which is
extremely important. I mean there's accidents after accident where you know,
maybe one pilot thought you were looking and I was
doing the radios or this or that.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
And again I'm not twenty fingers. I just having been
in that cockpit at night. This was a check ride.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
This was one of those I think maybe the female
was getting a check ride the annual nighttime you fly goggles,
you fly unaided.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
They could have been had very conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
About when you say check ride, you mean it was
a test basically if you will.
Speaker 9 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, every year you're you're doing a test of
check ride where you're doing instrument flying or you're doing
knife And again it starts in the planning room.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
You got to fill out a risk assessment. I'd love
to see all that who signed off the risk assessment.
What briefing do they have? We call it table talk
Before they walk out to the airplane and do a
full brieflight then before they jump in their seats. Everybody
has a crew briefing and it's you know, we get
out a booklet and a checklist. You read every line
(36:23):
item and I remember we send at least in the Army,
we would end that crew brief with the two pilots saying,
if we don't agree on some outcome or some maneuver
or something, we take the most conservative response. It may
have changed in a while because I've been flown in
twenty years. But all I could think is crew brief
would probably get even more conservative.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Follow what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, yeah, all of this is ongoing and the investigation.
I have a feeling too with hegsats as our department,
our defense secretary, that we are going to probably well,
I think he's involved in this clearly because it's military.
But we will see. There'll be transparency with this. I
(37:08):
really feel like there will be. And I don't know
is there such thing as transparency to a default or
to a fault? I should say with with this is
what I meant to say to a fault, and uh,
there's I don't know. Do we need to know every
single thing? But there are a lot of people who
are kind of demanding answers here.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
On the well, I think Pete don't leave the charge
of that. He's been in that aircraft. He understands it.
He's been combat. You know, this is not combat, which
is different even though we train as we fight. I'm
pretty sure we'll get down to the bottom it. But
my first thought was crew coordination. Somebody wasn't doing the
instrument scan meeting. Look at here in their Alba two,
(37:48):
their engine you're constantly scanning your instruments and to see
they're off one hundred and fifty feet. You know, somebody
might think, oh, that's not much. Well it is in
a last air space that's running that kind of ops.
And you know the thing where they switched from runway
one to thirty three what they call a circle land
(38:09):
or side step, that could have caught off some of
the off guard. But at the end of the day, brother,
it's your responsible responsibility to see avoid.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, how about and we'll get into this straight ahead
more with Don Ross, the retirement Boss Ross Well Advisors.
The Gaza Strip now possibly the riviera of the Middle East.
Speaker 8 (38:30):
I can't wait to see the Trump Plaza Gaza, Trump
Plaza Gaza.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Are you laughing at that? This is an excellent idea.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
And I just I just saw him signing that new
LEO and all in front of those kids, and what
a great Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
He Trump just signed executive order protecting women's sports. No
men playing women's sports. It's crazy that we have to
have a president citing executive orders. If you're a man,
you cannot play women's sports. I mean that. There there
are so many monumental historic things, historical things that are
(39:04):
taking place with this president, which we will Yeah, I know,
it's great. We'll dive in. We'll dive into more of
that with Don coming up, Don Ross, the Retirement Boss.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Think Weather, Sportes, and the Mark Blazer Show on six
ten WTVN.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So, we are starting to get some precipitation in the area.
We're following this this winter weather advisory. We're following it
so closely that the guy who just sent us this
information is joining us right now. Chief Meteorologist Marshall McPeak
and Johnny reporting it's beginning to fall in the area.
Not freezing rain yet, but Marshall, right here on our
(39:41):
temperature gauge it's thirty three, which clearly we're right on
the edge here, right.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
So their good news is the road temperatures are still
a little bit warmer than that, so that's helpful for us.
But by way of example, you know, keeping an eye
on some of the traffic cameras, we're already seeing some
ice on the lenses of some of the traffic cameras.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
So Courthouse has some of that. We see it in London.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
We're seeing some dry conditions in Marysville, but Grove City
has a little bit of ice. Our tower cam is
coated in ice already, so it is happening out there.
Some of the heaviest of this is on the south
side of Columbus and down twenty three through Circleville into Chillicothee.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Thirty three is getting a lot of this as well.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
All the way from Groveport down through Lancaster and into
Logan and the Hawking Hills north of Columbus is still
generally dry right now, but you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
End up with some of this as the night progresses.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Dayton and Cincinnati still have lots of freezing rain and
sleet that's coming our way. Thirty two will be our
low tonight, and then we're gonna warm up during the
overnight hours, so the freezing rain leaves behind a glaze
of ice, and then we put some rain on top
of that, so it's gonna be really slick for at
least a few hours, and then during the day on
(40:54):
Thursday it all melts off because we'll hit fifty during
the afternoon Friday of sun and clowns and ahin in
year thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Be careful out there tonight, all right, marshall, thank you.
It is thirty three.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Headlines reading Marshall McPeak says Ice is in Columbus. Do
you know how people are.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
They'll be contacting him anytime now, Like, did you really
you blew our cover because we didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, there's the reports of a station out in California
under investigation. Now for them doing that, by the way,
really getting on the RCBS station out there, that was yeah,
telling people, hey, we understand Ice will be in this
area and doing this and yeah, oh man, oh yeah
they're going after Oh well, good for them.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm glad they are. Actually Don Ross, the retirement boss,
is joining us and yeah, don we you know, talked
last out or last a little bit ago about the
situation with as the you know, the information becomes available
for the plane crash with the helicopter that happened last week,
and you know, just so sad, but to more positive news,
(42:03):
which we were just kind of talking about going to
break last time, that Trump just signed the executive order
protecting women's sports. No men can play in women's sports.
So I guess we need more than just common sense
to guide us, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
A shame that we have to get to that point.
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
I wouldn't even want to do something like that, but
that's me. I guess I don't have something going on
my brain. It makes me feel like I need to
identify as a woman and want to beat you in sports.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
But I don't know. I'm still perplexing some of them.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
I mean, did you see Schumer in that nasty Maxine
Waters just today screaming at some something about Elon and
we're gonna win, and they just want to have fights
and be divisive and it's just really sad.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I don't know where this whole comes from.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
It was actually funny watching Schumer up there going, you know,
I don't even know. I started watching it because I
hadn't seen the I hadn't heard the audio yet, and
I was sitting on the couch. My wife was next
to me, and I I try not to bombard her with,
you know, whatever it is I'm listening to, because typically
the TV's on, and yeah, it's just rude to be,
(43:11):
you know, drowning that out or mess with. She goes,
who in the hell is that? And I was just like, yeah,
it's Chuck Schumer and she's like, oh lord, what is
he doing? I go, Yeah, right, what is.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
He doing awaken the Sleeping Giant speech?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Well, it was he was like he what was it?
Don He was like, uh, and I did. I was
just watching it. It was he was talking about how
they're gonna win, We're gonna win. And I'm like, you're
gonna win?
Speaker 4 (43:36):
What?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
What are you gonna win? Chuck like, what are you talking?
You guys lost? I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
They don't know that. They don't know the word w man.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
They're just divisive, They're angry, they want to fight, and
they want to stop. You know, one of the greatest presidents,
you know, in our history because he understands the bottom line,
how to lead and how to take charge and run
a business, you know, unlike some of these guys that
have been uh you know, clicking a check from the government.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
For a year is nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 8 (44:02):
But you know, these are somebody, these elected officials, they
don't know what common sense is. I mean, they had
a guy on today that was a former Clinton advisor
said the Democrats have just lost their way and he's
talking about going from the dem Party to independent and
I think more and more going to go that way,
like Tulca Gabbert and others are going to go I'm
(44:23):
going to just slowly, in the darkness of night, I'm
going to switch parties and lea the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, well they want to right now because it seems
like there are no Centrists or just barely left of
center Democrats enough, most of those don't even exist as
of right now. And the Trump arrangements that he's living
rent free in all these people's heads right now, in
all of most of Congress, it is. It is absolutely
and these people don't he's they're so furious with him.
(44:51):
It doesn't matter what types of things he is trying
to do. And we know that everything that he's trying
to do ultimately is go to be so much better
for the United States. But they don't care what that is,
what that looks like, what it sounds like, what it
would take. They don't care about any of that. It's
because he's behind it. So there's got to be something
nefarious going on. And yeah, it's just going to be fight, fight, fight,
(45:16):
I hate to quote him right after he gets shot,
but fight, fight, fight is what we're going to be doing.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
It seems like, hey, you know, you know what's neat
you know what's up crazy right now. But enlistenment in
the military.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh, that's good, that's good, very good.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yeah, people, very good.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
People are puffing their chest up, they're going they're feeling patriotic. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yeah, it's great because you know, they've got a great leader,
you know.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
And I'm sitting here, I'm dying my book, you know,
the book that I've sent a lot of your listeners,
And I was going to write a chapter in there
about how you know, divisive things are right now, and
I thought, A, no one cares, and B I wouldn't
even know where to start and try to get in
a mindset of anger and hate like they have.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
So I just nixed that. Hey, so because yeah, I
can't do it. I can't do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
So that was one thing I wanted to ask you
about today as well, because we saw what the markets
did when it looked like, you know, both Mexico and
Canada we're going to have the twenty five percent tariffs
and slapped on them, and then you know, Mexico doesn't
about face, and then not too long and all of
(46:20):
a sudden, the markets recover I mean quickly, I mean
same day, like within an hour or something. Like that,
and then you know, Canada doesn't about face and then
all of a sudden, everything's so with you watching this
every day, Don and you're the perfect person to talk
to about this. You know, the Gaza Strip situation where
Trump's talking about it being the riviera of the Middle East,
(46:41):
and you know, so on and so forth. It's just
all of these different all of these different executive orders
that he is doing every day, rolling these out. How
is this affecting the market right now? And we've talked
about this a million times, and it's the easy statement.
You know, the market does not like uncertainty, But how
is it doing right now? I mean, and if it's shaky,
(47:03):
it's shaky, but I feel like it's going to steady.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
If it is shaky, yeah, I mean, it's it's we're
still gonna have a little bumpy ride because we've got
to still figure them things out. And that's why when
you know we're giving advice, we're giving advice. It's appropriate
for the client we're talking to that's retired or pre retirement,
and everybody has different risk tolerances. But it's gonna be
bumpy for a while. You know, it might be a
little sideways, meaning you're not gonna have huge swings. But
(47:28):
I think I still think there's some uneasiness week. You know,
we're kicking butt with the border stuff. Okay, that's what
I promise, you know, Donald Trump says, and then we'll
get into the energy next. That's gonna help a lot,
I think. Yeah, Drill baby Durrel catching to port and uh,
you know, women out of men, out of women's sports,
and he's just taking them one at a time.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
And look what he's done in two and a half weeks.
Good lord. So, uh, we'll still see that. But again,
you know, we need to have.
Speaker 8 (47:55):
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Speaker 1 (50:03):
All right, true or false? You are actually already looking
at beachfront property in the riviera of the Middle East,
in the Gaza.
Speaker 8 (50:11):
Stryt, Yeah, I'm want to have the first apartment in
the Trump Gaza Plaza.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Stop laughing at this. This is a good idea.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Chuck is sold. He's like, yeah, he's got a you know, dude,
it'll it'll take a little while for this to happen.
And if it does, and you have time to build
up a nice, big, huge financial egg, so you can
invest in this area, Chuck, Because Chuck is one hundred
percent sold on it, saying how it could be in
(50:40):
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Why well, I mean, why not the guy bills I mean,
I remember reading The Art of the Deal when it
was fresh off the press at eighty seven. The guy
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He understands ebitda and making things happen and delegating and
you know, I mean, he'll, he'll, he can do anything.
That's what's so great about him. And there's unfortunately so
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many haters.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
But the possibility of bringing peace to the region through
prosperity is definitely there. Look, as I was telling Blaze earlier,
his his beloved Las Vegas was nothing but a desert
until somebody had a vision. The Short North in Columbus
was a place for hookers and gangs until somebody had
a vision. It can be done. And if you've got
(51:23):
people who are living in Gaza now, living in an
oasis with tourist dollars pouring in, and why why do
they need Jerusalem at that point, much like Christians who say,
well Christmas says that about buying presents before they run
out to Walmart, it's the same thing. Those religious convictions
will kind of slow when you can live in Gaza
and live beautifully and wonderful.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
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Speaker 4 (51:49):
You know, I would never I never bet against the guy.
How about that.
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Good I don't know gambling like you do.
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Uh, and I don't gamble in the Vegas style, but
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Speaker 4 (52:38):
Talk too, bye, See you man,
All right, let's do this H two one w U
TV and one eight hundred and six n w U TVN.
It is technically hump Day. But I think you're you're well,
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You celebrate it all all gone it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It seems like you're not ready to do, uh, anything
of the sort.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And uh, I didn't even have the hump tree up.
I mean, what what do you do?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
By the way, let me see the Uh you're missing
the one the one side of your glasses.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
To the back. I've forgotten my real glasses at home, right,
So in my my little cubby cabinet thing here at
the station, I keep a pair of dollars store reading glasses.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Which, by the way, fifty cent. Now they're not even
dollar because they're missing part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I pull him out, I put him on, and the
the ear thing falls off. So yeah, I got I
got glasses on with one ear And the sadness it
really comes in when you realize that my head is
so big it's holding them on anyway, which which the
tree isn't up.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm just does look a little bit better than when
you had a zip tie on your headphones.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
See I did have the zip tie on the headphones.
I am a West Sider. We do what we need
to do when it needs to be done.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And your duct tail duct tape belt is so good
to thank you. I have to throw that in.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You have put so many holes using a drill in
my belt. As the weight has come off over the
months I have I just drill new holes in.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You are absolutely a national treasure. That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, Well, when they find out that's what the treasure is,
the book is going to be a non zellar.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I didn't realize he's just going it's all at his quo.
We're going on the air, and I look up as
we're talking because I had my head down just you know,
jotting down notes and whatnot, getting ready to go. And
then I look up and I realize, first of all,
the glasses that he have on they look like they're
and don't take this the wrong way, they look like
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they're basically for like a four or five six year old.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Normal size glasses on an abnormally large head. I'm not
gonna lie about that.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
So the what are these called, the I.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Don't know, the things.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That hold them on on the side that are attached
to the actual lenses that go along the side rest
on your ear.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's really nice. This is tortoiseshell too. I think I
will put this on Facebook Marketplace. I get a few
bucks out of it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He's got these on and the glasses are they're not
even close to wide enough for your face. And then
those things that run along the side and rest on
your ears, they're like stretched. The middle part that rests
on the bridge of your nose is like it's like
bode toward because they're just too small.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's what makes it tortoiseshell. They were all black before
I stretched them around my skull, and as you stretch them,
the colors separate. This is what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And then I realize he's only got the left side
holding on the right side is completely missing, and somehow
they're staying on your face. I don't even understand.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Gravity's a wonderful thing. My head has its own gravitational field.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Twenty three twenty three West Fifth Avenue, Sweet two hundred
four three two zero four. I believe it's our zip code.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You're calling for the emergency optometrist visit?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Is that? What?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
If somebody would like to mail Chuck some some readers
are those just they're not script right, they're not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Just no, these are just the.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I know Chuck would be very very happy.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh if you.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Sent him and buy them for an adult, if they
have adult sizes when you go, please, what's the trouble?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Apparently everybody who shops at the dollar Store for these
has extraordinarily small heads, because that's all they ever have.
But I can see through.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Them a kint Zach, I can't look at them. It's
so funny.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Zach is actually up over his console peering through the
window to try to see this.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I wanted to come in and look, but I can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That is so sad. Thet I can see, that's what's on.
It's not how it looks, it's what I can see.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That is good because you do need to be able
to read while we're on the air.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's good. Oh my gosh, man.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Ever a dull moment in this building. I love it
so fantastic.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I started off with a custerday, Claire, so I'll be
good no matter what happens to me.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So yeah, you took us right into what I wanted
to do. My friends over at Aldino's Bakery, Marco and
his whole gang over there. I mean, I'm telling you so,
you know, Marco and some of his other family member,
they are their listeners, and they will occasionally communicate with
(04:53):
me direct message on Facebook. And so going back and
forth with Marco the other day and he's talking about, Hey,
I'm going to bring some stuff up to you guys,
I'm like, oh, that's great. We love stuff, especially when
it's coming from Audinos. And then I said, you know,
why don't I just stop over your place? Whereas it's
on Clara, which is off of eleventh right there, off
(05:14):
seventy one.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's one of those forgotten little streets, so if you
don't know you're looking for it, you'll miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Correct and guess who used to live on the You're
going to die when you find On a side note,
I'll get back to Audinos in a second. We're looking
we're getting ready to go on the Nickel tour, and
he goes, uh, you know, he goes, hey, so, you know,
how did you get started in radio? I go, well,
a million years ago, Chuck, and I actually went to
broadcasting school. And I go the reason I started at
(05:39):
this broadcasting school was, once upon a time I worked
at a tuxedo place, and I said, there was a
guy that came in with a lead box for the
American School of Broadcasting. And I said, this is all
true story, and he goes, yeah, I swear to you.
He says this to me. Marco says this to me today.
It wasn't Earl Bailey, was this it was? I said, yes,
(06:01):
it was Earl Bailey. I said, I can't. He was
this fledgling station, Fox twenty eight. And he's, you know,
brings this in. I'm like, wow, it's Earl Bailey and
he's like, he lived right there. He we look out
the front. There's a double right there on the corner
of Clara and eleven. And he says he lived on
(06:22):
the left side there. God rest his soul before he passed.
He literally lived there. And he lived there while he
was working getting Fox twenty and he was going and
he said he lived right there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I said, you've got to be kidding at this. That's
why the school was on Cleveland is because he could
walk to work if he wanted to. It wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You know what That makes sense, Yeah, that makes it.
I didn't even think about that, dude. I was flipping
out I was like, I cannot believe this is wow,
it's crazy, right, so crazy. But anyway, this place, you know,
here's the thing. People listening now are probably like, you know,
oh yeah, al Dino's Bakery. They've been going at it
since nineteen sixty eight. And I was I was not
(06:58):
priving him much. My father law loves Adinos. They supply
to like four or five hundred different restaurants. It's ridiculous
how much you know, the sub buns for pizza places,
and rolls for Italian joints and all these plays. Then
they've got all this fantastic the bakery part of this,
I mean, and then he starts showing me. I walked through, chuck.
(07:20):
It was fascinating. If the smell would have probably flattened me.
Fascinating to watch all of the things that are going
on in there with regard to the bread excuse me
being made. He said, they're bakers. Come in at ten o'clock.
He showed me the ovens where they put these huge
racks in and they wheel them in and that's how
they cook, and it's this machine's just churning these out.
(07:42):
He goes, yeah, we get eighteen thousand of those I
think it's a day or an hour. I think a
day may or I I see he threw so much
at me. I'm sorry, I'm having trouble. You know, just
regurgit heat.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You get a real bakery like that, It's incredible. Believe
they can turn out the number, the sheer volume and
keep the quality that they do. That's it was incredible.
I mean, I've been into that donut. What is it?
How old is it been on a shelf for five
six hours?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
As if that?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And it tastes like it is sept for the warmth
was fresh from the evident. It was great.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Absolutely, that's how their stuff is. But they had people,
you know, flying in and out of there the whole
time I was there. But anyway, thank you, you guys
are very generous. Thank you for listening, and thank you
for being a Columbus staple. And there's so little everything. Listen,
there's a place for big box, big bakery, big all
that stuff. But I'm very very thankful that we still
(08:37):
have these places that are around. Absolutely, and it was
amazing to just walk through and see all other people
that were there from I swear to you from age
eighteen sixteen in that place, all the way up to
probably in their eighties that we're working in there. It
was nuts. It was so cool, very cool. Something that
was not cool was last night, of course, there was
(08:59):
a shoe shoting in New Albany. Bruce Reginald Foster, the
third is the suspect. He was arrested at a home
in Columbus earlier about ten am or so this morning.
An apartment complex on the in the short north fifty
east seventh Avenue. They gave the address in this article
(09:20):
and it's a peer apartment complex. And yeah, so this
guy was staying. They looked for him for quite a while.
So one person has died, five others suffered injuries in
the shooting. One hundred and fifty people or so were present.
They have not released the victim's identity yet. They haven't
(09:41):
given update on the conditions of the five surviving victims.
All of that. From what I understand, there's going to
be a presser coming up here in just a little
while with the Chief of New Albany Police and Greg
Jones and then the mayor there of New Albany. So
they're going to be doing that and we're going to
talk to the chief here at some point as well,
(10:03):
and you know, we'll get the very latest on this,
what exactly happened and so on. They were at KDC one. Now,
when you saw this on the news, when you saw
the shooting and you saw KDC.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
One, did you know what it was? Because I didn't, Okay,
I didn't even think it was here. I mean, you know,
the queen as I woke up there, she goes, oh,
we got somebody shot a bunch of people. Oh my gosh. Really,
And I didn't even the sound of the story made
me think it wasn't even here. I just couldn't. It
was hard for me to grasp what I got fully awake,
that that was here in central Ohio yep, yep, in
(10:37):
New Albany and the KDC what is something I'd never
even you know, I've never heard that name before.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, it's Knowlton Development Corporation. It's a global leader in
providing the value added solutions to brands and the beauty,
personal care, and home care categories. KDC one also operates
twenty seven research and development labs and innovation centers. According
to the what I'm looking at. Their headquarters is in Quebec, Quebec,
(11:11):
and they employed more than fifteen thousand people across twenty
four facilities.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Around the world. This is a major concern. I've never
heard the name. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah, just kind of looking over this, Yeah, employees
interviewed by I saw Mike McCarthy this morning saying on
Good Day Columbus that he was reporting that some of
the people working there were not even aware that a
shooting had taken place because it's such a big place
that even while the shooting I believe occurred on the inside,
(11:45):
they didn't even hear it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's how big this place is. Old warehouse situation. You
got one hundred and fifty people working in there. Last
I heard at least that nobody saw any kind of
confrontation or fight going on. There was no reason to
think something crazy was going to happen. And yeah, they
might have just thought it was machinery banging. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah. There's a spokesperson for Mount Carmel Health confirming for
patients receiving treatment at Mount Carmel least, of course, they
can't give any names for obvious reasons patient privacy. He
was an employee at the new Albany Warehouse. He'd been
at work for some time and it was a targeted attack,
(12:27):
according to the chief there, according to Chief Greg Jones
for the New Albany Police, Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Off the air. We'll find out as things progress. But
I told you off the air what I think we'll
probably find out. I'm going to keep my mouse shut
till we find out.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you're probably not far off what you were saying there.
Although we haven't been given the sexes of anybody who's
been shot, and we certainly don't know of the person
who's deceased, well at least I haven't seen that, have you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Have you seen?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, no, I haven't. But I don't think gender even
plays a role in this. I've seen some other pictures
of the of the person accused of this.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Bruce Reginald Fosster, the third. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, so I don't know necessarily that gender plays a
role there.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He I think he was he went to was I
seeing and oh he went to Brookhaven from twenty ten
to twenty fourteen. Former Columbus City School student. He went
to Brookhaven. So anyway, that's you know, some of the
things that are out there and available now. And yeah,
like I said, at some point here, we'll we'll hear
(13:35):
from do Albdy Police Chief Greg Jones. I'll be interested
to Yeah, I got a bunch of questions, and I'm
sure you do too, so on and so forth. A
lot of people like motive. That's the first thing you
do in these situations. You go there was why how
many people were shot? Like what happened? Why? Everyone wants
to know why instantly. Then you want to know. They
(13:56):
said they did recover a handgun, but they didn't indicate,
you know, necessarily, was that the one, what type of caliber?
All of those things. So there's there's still a lot
of information.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That we need that we want to find out about.
So and nothing will happen during this afternoon that we
don't know about. Trust me. Oh yeah, if it happens,
we'll boom. We're on it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
We are off, no doubt about that. We will. We
will bring it to you immediately.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Prat Weather Sports and the Mark Blazer Show on six
y ten WTVN.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, bad news for the Jackets last night. They lose
the second of the four road games and uh yeah,
versus the Sabers in Buffalo and uh yeah, it's one
of the sickest goals I've ever seen in my life
was from Ken Johnson though. And I don't know if
you heard about this or saw anything about it, Chuck,
(14:48):
but it did not. It was unbelievable. kJ was coming
across the ice, he was by himself, he had a
defender on him, and then he ended up. You know,
it was just the defender who started to move kind
of into position to get between him and the goal.
So he puts on the brakes. He just you know,
they almost like a skier when they turned sideways and yeah,
(15:09):
you know the snow. He's like and he literally, here's
like where your monitor is right now is the goal
and he's like there and he he's he does that,
He puts on the brakes. The defender starts to stop
and he flips around literally like this, and there's the goal.
(15:32):
He flips around in backhands like this and it goes.
He buries it. I mean, wow, the goalie had no chance.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That was was that?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Was that skill or complete luck?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Well?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
A lot of skill, but but the goal. I don't
know if he did that ten times, how many times
you would score. So there's some luck involved, But make
no mistake, Ken Johnson's a wizard. Okay. So anyway, it
was incredible.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Just watching you twist and turn over there and describing it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It was incredible. Chief Media wologists Marshall McPeak.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Him again, this guy eighty one in Tampa right now,
go ahead, now say what you need to say, Marshall.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Chuck, don't be that guy that one. Don't be that
guy that blames Marshall's.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Marshall pays for this stuff because he likes having you.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, he's extra to get it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, stop it. We don't want Marshall to stop coming
on the show.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do we payroll? You're on, but you're making it happen.
And you know you are anyway, you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Know, because when people come at me with that, I'm
usually like, okay, So if.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I were able to control the weather, yes, would I
pick freezing rain and snow? Or would I pick Sonny
in seventies.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Blisters? That's martial.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We'd we'd be looking at like, you know, all right,
so let's uh we uh oh. I just saw that
we've got a guest that we're going to be getting
here to here momentarily. But Marshall, I do know we
have weather. What is the timing on this? The freezing
rain and such that we've got now, oh it's let
(17:12):
me look right now.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
So this is actually moving into western Franklin County as
we speak.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So we're looking at some of the traffic cameras.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
We're already seeing some snow showers out there on ice
seventy and seventy one. To the west and southwest of
the city. There is freezing rain already starting to happen
in Circleville and Asheville, and there is plenty more of
that off to our west. Dayton and Cincinnati are dealing
with it already. More of that is coming up seventy
and seventy one headed our direction. So we're going to
(17:42):
start seeing some precipitation in various forms in the next
even thirty minutes, and then it continues during the evening.
A winter weather advisory goes into effect for the rest
of the evening and through most of the overnight hours
because some of this is freezing rain that will create
an icy glaze. Then we put some rain on top
(18:02):
of that, which means ice with wet surfaces on top
of that is exceedingly slippery. Temperatures will actually climb during
the overnight hours tonight. Then the ice ends early, the
rain comes to an end Thursday morning and Thursday afternoon
we climb to fifty degrees. So it's a mess for
a few hours tonight and then tomorrow there's some improvement.
(18:25):
Friday thirty seven and mostly cloudy. Marshall, thank you. Thirty
four Right now.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Last night at about ten thirty KADC one, which is
on Smith's Mill Road in far western Licking County in
New Albany, there was a shooting. The suspect is finally
in custody. Right around ten am this morning, they were
able to take him into custody and so charged at
this point. Well, I don't know if he's been charged yet,
(18:51):
but right now it's being reported that one a total
of six were shot. One is dead and then there
were five others who are wounded right now. And yeah,
it had I guess he worked at KATIEC One and
he had been there and this was being called a
targeted attack, and it was being called a targeted attack
(19:15):
from New Almany Police Chief Greg Jones, and he is
joining us right now. Police Chief Greg Jones of New Albany,
welcome for the first time to the Mark Blazer Show. Chief,
thanks for joining.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Us, no problem, Thanks man, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
For jumping on with us, and uh yeah, obviously an
incredibly tragic situation that happened. And can you tell us
at this point, I mean, we know it is the
victim count at this point, is everything the same as
far as that goes, or is there any new information?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
At this point, I can only show that their victim
count is still the same five or off live and
one was deceased on the scene.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay. And then do you have names of those people
as of yet?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
You know, because of some some rules, were not able
to release those names at this point. You know, the
families have a right to try to keep their disclosed
for some time, so I don't have those available at
that time to to share, Okay, And I can tell
you I can tell you that the all the victims
were male, So all.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Six people were male, including the one that has deceased, correct, yeah, okay.
And then at this point is there I mean I
saw earlier from your press release, your press conference, I
should say that you know they he had been at
work for some time, he was an employee there. You
called this a targeted attack. What was there, you know,
(20:37):
a motive for this? Do we know was there arguments
where anything, Has anything come into focus with regard to that, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I think that. Originally we know there was approx. One
hundred and fifty people working in the building, and speaking
with witnesses and other staff, there didn't appear to be
an obvious motive. There was no confrontation or no, he
wasn't in trouble at work. However, as he continued to
the investigation, and you know, we continue to try to
develop the motives and hopefully can share that at some
point in time.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, the there was it was it a handgun that
was used. It was that recovered?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Correct, It was a handgun and it was recovered of
the scene.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, okay, and what kind of what caliber? Do you
know any of that kind of stuff as of yet? Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Right now, we are tracing the origins of the gun,
So at this point we're not able to share that.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And then the as far as the shooter goes, did
he act alone? Was there anybody? Is there any reason
to believe there's anybody else with him?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:34):
We we do believe he acted alone. You know, you know,
when you have a situation like that going on with
that many people in such a large building, you know,
we get conflicting stories of of what is occurring, But
it didn't take us long to actually determine that he
was acting alone and we were able to rule out
any type of accomplish.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
We're talking to New Albany Police Chief Greg Jones joining
us now. Of course, shooting happened last night where one
is deceased in five others have been shot as far
as this the suspect Bruce Reginald Foster, the third who
was taken into custody, I believe about ten am is
what I was reading at the Peer apartment complex on
the North Side that was earlier today. What did you
(22:16):
hear about when they took him into did he was here?
Was there anything that happened when they tried it? Was
it peaceful when they took him into custody, anything like that?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
So there there he did, didn't comply with orders and
there was not less than lethal forced views. There's no
injuries involved, and he was taken into custody other than
that without without any type of issue and without any
law enforcement offer of being heard. So we had actually
since the shooting had happened, it we had developed a
(22:47):
person of interest. As we spoke with the staff and
review cameras, and then throughout the night we had executed
a couple of search warrants at locations we thought we
might be able to find him, and so a little
bit of a process, process of elimination and the use
of technology, were actually able to locate him in the
in the morning hours.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Hey, it was being reported to earlier chief that there
were people that were in that building that were unaware
that a shooting even happened, even though it did occur
inside the building.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Correct, yes, correct, And you know, it's a light manufacturing building,
so it's not your typical like an office building with
a bunch of offices. So it's open and there's a
lot of machinery running. And so even when the building
was shut down because of this incident, it's still a
very there's still a lot of noise in the building,
so it's perfectly understandable of being in there that they
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sparked the building would't even know anything's going on. We
were able to luckily evacuate everybody very quickly, and so
the of the one hundred and fifty approximately people in
the building, we were able to evacuate them safely to
a facility across the street.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So this is a KDC. One is a twenty four
hour facility there. In other words, there are you know,
different shifts that work around the clock there. Correct. And
then I also read this too, Chief that this guy
has basically no significant criminal history as well. Are you
is that what you believe as well to be true?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Yeah, he in checking his criminal history, doesn't have any
criminal history. I think that from what it appeared that
there may have been times ree Key in contact with
law enforcement, but nothing resulting in a criminal history.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All right, So New Albandy Police Chief Greg Jones, I
want to thank you so much for jumping on with
us today. I know you're probably running on pure adrenaline.
I have it on good authority that you haven't even slept, sir,
so I I really appreciate you taking time to jump.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
On with us today.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Problem Mark, no problem. I appreciate it. And you guys
stay safe.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Thank you so much. Appreciate you. All right, thank you?
All right, there he is New Albany Police Chief Greg Jones.
Who yeah, he isn't even he hasn't even slept yet, So.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, we had more time with him. I'm really is
as to how the officers are doing. I mean, this
is not something that's normal for New Albany. You know,
you're ready to switch shifts at the end of the
night and then move. You've got something like this on
your radar. And I know Franklin County Shares deputies were
up there, Licking County, I'm assuming had deputies up there.
I just I hope everybody, you know, they're doing okay
and this isn't too much of a trauma. They're professionals,
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but man, sometimes you got to step outside of your
normal right and do something that's really out of the ordinary,
and you worry more about the officers sometimes you do
the general public.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But here's the thing too, to remember with this these guys,
the officers respond, he's gone, and certainly there's one dead,
and then other people who are now being whisked away
from the scene. But they weren't there in a fight,
a gunfight so on. It's kind of to what you
were talking about. But you're right, they're not used to
responding to something like this that doesn't happen in New Albany,
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as they say, you know, so huge thanks to New
Albany Police Chief Greg Jones for jumping on with us
just now. The Mark Poler Show. All right, let's uh,
let's bring in Don Ross, the retirement boss, who's joining
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us from somewhere warmer than where we are. And oh
my god, sounds like a bathroom.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
He's joining us from.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Don Are you there, Oh there you are, Okay, We're
just like there was like some crazy sound when you
just came on. It was like sound like a toilet flushing.
I'll say it so, I'm sure you.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Know that's that's interesting because I tried to mute it.
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Don stand by. We're going to also bring in Meg
Christy from ABC News investigative journalist, and Meg is joining
us now. Meg, welcome to the Mark Blazer Show. Thanks
for dropping on.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, so, tell us about you know, color me not
surprised by the way that there have been multiple close
calls in this area. But pilots have been warned about
safety concerns here at Reagan for decades, it turns out.
But give us the latest on this if you would please.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah. So, we have been doing a deep dive since
the tragic accident last week looking at what pilots were
concerned about, specifically at DCA, going over a number of years,
and what we found were fifteen relevant incident reports that
pilots and air traffic controllers had submitted to a database
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that's called the Aviation Safety Reporting System. This is actually
a public system. Anyone can go on and look up
these reports. It was a program that was established by
the SAA a number of years ago, nineteen seventy six,
and the purpose was to enable professionals within the aviation
community to voluntarily and confidentially report their safety concerns. So
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these incident reports are stripped of identifying information. So for instance,
we'll know we'll see that one was, you know, detailing
an incident a near missed collision miss air collision between
say a helicopter in a regional jet or something to
that nature. We have that information. We don't know what
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airline it was and exactly when it took place. But
what we are able to ascertain from these reports is
at pilots, a number of them going back to nineteen
ninety one, we're submitting safety reports to authority saying there
is a real problem here in terms of close calls
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between helicopters and airplanes at CCA and urging something to
be done.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, this is not to me not surprising of it
that we have, you know, learning about this now and
this being the first time in history where a helicopter
was involved with a commercial airliner at this you know,
and this type of horrific accident. But then I saw, too, Meg,
that there are a number of other reports of safety
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incidents associated with this exact runway, runway thirty three.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
That's right, There were at least four reports we looked
at of safety incidents associated with this specific runway. You know,
maybe the most compelling example that unfortunately is euerally close
to what happened happened last week is a report that
came in in twenty fifteen, and this was from a
(29:37):
fight crew other regional jets that reported a near mid
air collision when it was switched from landing on runway
one to runway thirty three. And just a reminder, that's
exactly what happened with American Airlines flight five three four
two last week. They were lining up for runway one
and then we're switched to runway thirty three in order
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to keep track moving. And that's a common practice that Cca,
and you know, I'm sure anyone who's flowed notes that
happens from time to time, but they are fite Crow
then reported that they came within very close contact of
a helicopter in the air at about four hundred feet
off the ground, to the point where the pilot monitoring
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had to take the controls in order to make a
correction and prevent it from becoming a mid air collision.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know, quite frankly, all of this information, Meg is
to me not really that surprising. What's really surprising is
we haven't had something as catastrophic as we witnessed last
week happened as of yet. So it felt like, based
on this information and how long it's going back to
you alluded to nineteen ninety one, that I'm shocked that
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we haven't had anything happen something like we witnessed as
of yet, And it felt like, knowing all of this now,
it's like, well, this was just a matter of time,
But it took a long time for something like this
to happen, and unfortunately.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
It finally has I know, and you know, that sentiment
is one that was shared by two former pilots who
are now aviation consultants with ABC News. They examined all
of these reports that I found and they said the
same thing, that basically these were dressed rehearsals, these incidents
were dressed rehearsals for what happened last week, and that
(31:22):
they were surprised too that something hadn't happened earlier. And
you know, two of these reports have the exact quote
in them where the pilots warned that this was an
accident waiting to happen. Yeah, and unfortunately it did.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, very very sad. Meg Christy, ABC News Investigative Journalists. Meg,
thank you very much for joining us today. Appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Thanks guys much.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, see ya.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
What we're hearing there is the equivalent of he was
on our radar, which always annoys me. If you've had
you've had these concerns since nineteen ninety one. Pilots have
been expressing since nineteen nine, whether it's the military that
needs to adjust their training, the FA that needs to
adjust the airspace, whoever needs to do something, didn't do
something since nineteen ninety one. I'm telling you, man, it's
(32:08):
the same thing as he's on our radar. I get
sick of that excuse. If you've known this as a problem, yep,
it should have been here.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Here's what I here's what I predict or I'm thinking probably,
and Don Ross, the retirement boss, is joining us now.
Who flew that exact heilo in the army and who
we talked to last week when all this unfolded. But Don,
I don't know when you're hearing this stuff, you know,
like the report you just were listening to with Meg,
I'm not surprised. But I also think too, Chuck, that
(32:36):
there have been plenty of pilots, commercial airline pilots who
were like, hey, this is this is unacceptable, this is crazy,
you know whatever it is they reported, and they were
probably told just shut up. It's our military. We have
to practice. We've got to do this because of the
tight quarters and the way that they have to fly.
There's no other way to practice this than to be there.
(32:59):
We've got it, We've got it under control. You know,
the tower knows how to do this, they know how.
Everyone knows how. And then it turns out you have
somebody who and is it your understanding, Don, with the
the one pilot that she was like five hundred hours
or so of flying time at this point and so on,
that is that that's is that a lot? I mean
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it seems like that's not a lot of time to
be flying something that is that requires such intricacy.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Well, actually that you know that, that's that's a pretty
fair amount of time. The uh. I don't know what
the captain had, but you know, one of the things.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I know is I feel based on flying at night
missions was you know they could have had a second
crew chief in the back. Now, I'm not going to
point fingers, and it's ultimately always the pilot's job to
see and avoid whether it's the instrument made a lot
of conditions like clouds and frankly other aircraft and the
end of problem is when you're flying in a familiar area,
(33:59):
sometimes things can be like oh, been there, done that,
and that can be very dangerous, kind of like the
Kobe Bryant accident.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I'm pretty sure that pilot was like, Hey, I've been here,
done that. I can fly lower, you know, I know
where mountains are, and that can be the kiss of death.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
When we read what are what's called our flight facts,
it's what the military puts out and it categorized all
different accidents and what happened, and a lot of times
you can have high time pilots have accidents, but there's
just so many things and why we call it an accident.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
We maybe figured this out for weeks and months ahead.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I also read too that they were given two full
minutes roughly to adjust where they were flying. And again
this was this has not been something that is one
hundred percent confirmed. I just heard this being reported, and
I don't know again how much legitimacy there is to that.
(34:54):
And then also I heard that the ceiling there is
two hundred feet and they were operating in the three
between three and four hundred feet.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Region, Yeah, that is too close, that is what I mean.
That's only a couple hundred feet. That seems like way
too close to me.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Well, see that, that's that's you know, that's why I
love systems. I love flying instruments, because you know, if
I'm off twenty feet, you know, that's a that's an
adjustment with the power we call the power.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
That's your collective.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
So again, I think it's cockpit crew coordination, which is
extremely important. I mean there's accidents after accident where you know,
maybe one pilot thought you were looking and I was
doing the radios or this or that.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
And again I'm not twenty fingers. I just having been
in that cockpit at night. This was a check ride.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
This was one of those I think maybe the female
was getting a check ride the annual nighttime you fly goggles,
you fly unaided.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
They could have been had very conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
About when you say check ride, you mean it was
a test basically if you will.
Speaker 9 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, every year you're you're doing a test of
check ride where you're doing instrument flying or you're doing
knife And again it starts in the planning room.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
You got to fill out a risk assessment. I'd love
to see all that who signed off the risk assessment.
What briefing do they have? We call it table talk
Before they walk out to the airplane and do a
full brieflight then before they jump in their seats. Everybody
has a crew briefing and it's you know, we get
out a booklet and a checklist. You read every line
(36:23):
item and I remember we send at least in the Army,
we would end that crew brief with the two pilots saying,
if we don't agree on some outcome or some maneuver
or something, we take the most conservative response. It may
have changed in a while because I've been flown in
twenty years. But all I could think is crew brief
would probably get even more conservative.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Follow what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, yeah, all of this is ongoing and the investigation.
I have a feeling too with hegsats as our department,
our defense secretary, that we are going to probably well,
I think he's involved in this clearly because it's military.
But we will see. There'll be transparency with this. I
(37:08):
really feel like there will be. And I don't know
is there such thing as transparency to a default or
to a fault? I should say with with this is
what I meant to say to a fault, and uh,
there's I don't know. Do we need to know every
single thing? But there are a lot of people who
are kind of demanding answers here.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
On the well, I think Pete don't leave the charge
of that. He's been in that aircraft. He understands it.
He's been combat. You know, this is not combat, which
is different even though we train as we fight. I'm
pretty sure we'll get down to the bottom it. But
my first thought was crew coordination. Somebody wasn't doing the
instrument scan meeting. Look at here in their Alba two,
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their engine you're constantly scanning your instruments and to see
they're off one hundred and fifty feet. You know, somebody
might think, oh, that's not much. Well it is in
a last air space that's running that kind of ops.
And you know the thing where they switched from runway
one to thirty three what they call a circle land
(38:09):
or side step, that could have caught off some of
the off guard. But at the end of the day, brother,
it's your responsible responsibility to see avoid.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, how about and we'll get into this straight ahead
more with Don Ross, the retirement Boss Ross Well Advisors.
The Gaza Strip now possibly the riviera of the Middle East.
Speaker 8 (38:30):
I can't wait to see the Trump Plaza Gaza, Trump
Plaza Gaza.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Are you laughing at that? This is an excellent idea.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
And I just I just saw him signing that new
LEO and all in front of those kids, and what
a great Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
He Trump just signed executive order protecting women's sports. No
men playing women's sports. It's crazy that we have to
have a president citing executive orders. If you're a man,
you cannot play women's sports. I mean that. There there
are so many monumental historic things, historical things that are
(39:04):
taking place with this president, which we will Yeah, I know,
it's great. We'll dive in. We'll dive into more of
that with Don coming up, Don Ross, the Retirement Boss.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Think Weather, Sportes, and the Mark Blazer Show on six
ten WTVN.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So, we are starting to get some precipitation in the area.
We're following this this winter weather advisory. We're following it
so closely that the guy who just sent us this
information is joining us right now. Chief Meteorologist Marshall McPeak
and Johnny reporting it's beginning to fall in the area.
Not freezing rain yet, but Marshall, right here on our
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temperature gauge it's thirty three, which clearly we're right on
the edge here, right.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
So their good news is the road temperatures are still
a little bit warmer than that, so that's helpful for us.
But by way of example, you know, keeping an eye
on some of the traffic cameras, we're already seeing some
ice on the lenses of some of the traffic cameras.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
So Courthouse has some of that. We see it in London.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
We're seeing some dry conditions in Marysville, but Grove City
has a little bit of ice. Our tower cam is
coated in ice already, so it is happening out there.
Some of the heaviest of this is on the south
side of Columbus and down twenty three through Circleville into Chillicothee.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Thirty three is getting a lot of this as well.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
All the way from Groveport down through Lancaster and into
Logan and the Hawking Hills north of Columbus is still
generally dry right now, but you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
End up with some of this as the night progresses.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Dayton and Cincinnati still have lots of freezing rain and
sleet that's coming our way. Thirty two will be our
low tonight, and then we're gonna warm up during the
overnight hours, so the freezing rain leaves behind a glaze
of ice, and then we put some rain on top
of that, so it's gonna be really slick for at
least a few hours, and then during the day on
(40:54):
Thursday it all melts off because we'll hit fifty during
the afternoon Friday of sun and clowns and ahin in
year thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Be careful out there tonight, all right, marshall, thank you.
It is thirty three.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Headlines reading Marshall McPeak says Ice is in Columbus. Do
you know how people are.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
They'll be contacting him anytime now, Like, did you really
you blew our cover because we didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, there's the reports of a station out in California
under investigation. Now for them doing that, by the way,
really getting on the RCBS station out there, that was yeah,
telling people, hey, we understand Ice will be in this
area and doing this and yeah, oh man, oh yeah
they're going after Oh well, good for them.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm glad they are. Actually Don Ross, the retirement boss,
is joining us and yeah, don we you know, talked
last out or last a little bit ago about the
situation with as the you know, the information becomes available
for the plane crash with the helicopter that happened last week,
and you know, just so sad, but to more positive news,
(42:03):
which we were just kind of talking about going to
break last time, that Trump just signed the executive order
protecting women's sports. No men can play in women's sports.
So I guess we need more than just common sense
to guide us, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
A shame that we have to get to that point.
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
I wouldn't even want to do something like that, but
that's me. I guess I don't have something going on
my brain. It makes me feel like I need to
identify as a woman and want to beat you in sports.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
But I don't know. I'm still perplexing some of them.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
I mean, did you see Schumer in that nasty Maxine
Waters just today screaming at some something about Elon and
we're gonna win, and they just want to have fights
and be divisive and it's just really sad.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I don't know where this whole comes from.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
It was actually funny watching Schumer up there going, you know,
I don't even know. I started watching it because I
hadn't seen the I hadn't heard the audio yet, and
I was sitting on the couch. My wife was next
to me, and I I try not to bombard her with,
you know, whatever it is I'm listening to, because typically
the TV's on, and yeah, it's just rude to be,
(43:11):
you know, drowning that out or mess with. She goes,
who in the hell is that? And I was just like, yeah,
it's Chuck Schumer and she's like, oh lord, what is
he doing? I go, Yeah, right, what is.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
He doing awaken the Sleeping Giant speech?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Well, it was he was like he what was it?
Don He was like, uh, and I did. I was
just watching it. It was he was talking about how
they're gonna win, We're gonna win. And I'm like, you're
gonna win?
Speaker 4 (43:36):
What?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
What are you gonna win? Chuck like, what are you talking?
You guys lost? I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
They don't know that. They don't know the word w man.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
They're just divisive, They're angry, they want to fight, and
they want to stop. You know, one of the greatest presidents,
you know, in our history because he understands the bottom line,
how to lead and how to take charge and run
a business, you know, unlike some of these guys that
have been uh you know, clicking a check from the government.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
For a year is nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 8 (44:02):
But you know, these are somebody, these elected officials, they
don't know what common sense is. I mean, they had
a guy on today that was a former Clinton advisor
said the Democrats have just lost their way and he's
talking about going from the dem Party to independent and
I think more and more going to go that way,
like Tulca Gabbert and others are going to go I'm
(44:23):
going to just slowly, in the darkness of night, I'm
going to switch parties and lea the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, well they want to right now because it seems
like there are no Centrists or just barely left of
center Democrats enough, most of those don't even exist as
of right now. And the Trump arrangements that he's living
rent free in all these people's heads right now, in
all of most of Congress, it is. It is absolutely
and these people don't he's they're so furious with him.
(44:51):
It doesn't matter what types of things he is trying
to do. And we know that everything that he's trying
to do ultimately is go to be so much better
for the United States. But they don't care what that is,
what that looks like, what it sounds like, what it
would take. They don't care about any of that. It's
because he's behind it. So there's got to be something
nefarious going on. And yeah, it's just going to be fight, fight, fight,
(45:16):
I hate to quote him right after he gets shot,
but fight, fight, fight is what we're going to be doing.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
It seems like, hey, you know, you know what's neat
you know what's up crazy right now. But enlistenment in
the military.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh, that's good, that's good, very good.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yeah, people, very good.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
People are puffing their chest up, they're going they're feeling patriotic. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yeah, it's great because you know, they've got a great leader,
you know.
Speaker 8 (45:37):
And I'm sitting here, I'm dying my book, you know,
the book that I've sent a lot of your listeners,
And I was going to write a chapter in there
about how you know, divisive things are right now, and
I thought, A, no one cares, and B I wouldn't
even know where to start and try to get in
a mindset of anger and hate like they have.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
So I just nixed that. Hey, so because yeah, I
can't do it. I can't do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
So that was one thing I wanted to ask you
about today as well, because we saw what the markets
did when it looked like, you know, both Mexico and
Canada we're going to have the twenty five percent tariffs
and slapped on them, and then you know, Mexico doesn't
about face, and then not too long and all of
(46:20):
a sudden, the markets recover I mean quickly, I mean
same day, like within an hour or something. Like that,
and then you know, Canada doesn't about face and then
all of a sudden, everything's so with you watching this
every day, Don and you're the perfect person to talk
to about this. You know, the Gaza Strip situation where
Trump's talking about it being the riviera of the Middle East,
(46:41):
and you know, so on and so forth. It's just
all of these different all of these different executive orders
that he is doing every day, rolling these out. How
is this affecting the market right now? And we've talked
about this a million times, and it's the easy statement.
You know, the market does not like uncertainty, But how
is it doing right now? I mean, and if it's shaky,
(47:03):
it's shaky, but I feel like it's going to steady.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
If it is shaky, yeah, I mean, it's it's we're
still gonna have a little bumpy ride because we've got
to still figure them things out. And that's why when
you know we're giving advice, we're giving advice. It's appropriate
for the client we're talking to that's retired or pre retirement,
and everybody has different risk tolerances. But it's gonna be
bumpy for a while. You know, it might be a
little sideways, meaning you're not gonna have huge swings. But
(47:28):
I think I still think there's some uneasiness week. You know,
we're kicking butt with the border stuff. Okay, that's what
I promise, you know, Donald Trump says, and then we'll
get into the energy next. That's gonna help a lot,
I think. Yeah, Drill baby Durrel catching to port and uh,
you know, women out of men, out of women's sports,
and he's just taking them one at a time.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
And look what he's done in two and a half weeks.
Good lord. So, uh, we'll still see that. But again,
you know, we need to have.
Speaker 8 (47:55):
A diversified portfolio for for where you are in life.
And like I said, I'm excited. I'm I'm editing in
the fifth edition of my book and we're covering that
exact topic because at the end of the day, no
one wants to lose money. They want to pay least
a mount of taxes, and they want to have a
bunch of retirements.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
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Speaker 4 (48:19):
What is that.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
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Speaker 8 (48:21):
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Speaker 4 (48:33):
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Speaker 8 (48:39):
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Speaker 8 (48:48):
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So people on the leisure of their home or office
(49:09):
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Speaker 4 (49:11):
Or do I need help? Whether it's us or any
other fine advisors around.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
You know so, and they can get your book for free.
Correct they have to call or text? How do they
do that?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (49:24):
Yeah, my book's easy to get a three to three
don ross or they call the office our websites Rosswelt
Advisors and a lot of people like that text eight
three three don Ross, we get the book out immediately.
And again, I've I've met over and over. I'm so
thankful that I've met you and been able to share
(49:45):
our store with a lot of your listeners who have
become absolutely just the greatest clients. You know s all
of the earth people listening to six ' ten so
and I can think about it every time, you know.
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Speaker 1 (50:03):
All right, true or false? You are actually already looking
at beachfront property in the riviera of the Middle East,
in the Gaza.
Speaker 8 (50:11):
Stryt, Yeah, I'm want to have the first apartment in
the Trump Gaza Plaza.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Stop laughing at this. This is a good idea.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Chuck is sold. He's like, yeah, he's got a you know, dude,
it'll it'll take a little while for this to happen.
And if it does, and you have time to build
up a nice, big, huge financial egg, so you can
invest in this area, Chuck, Because Chuck is one hundred
percent sold on it, saying how it could be in
(50:40):
the next oasis.
Speaker 8 (50:41):
Why well, I mean, why not the guy bills I mean,
I remember reading The Art of the Deal when it
was fresh off the press at eighty seven. The guy
knows how to work and make things happen. He's a businessman.
He understands ebitda and making things happen and delegating and
you know, I mean, he'll, he'll, he can do anything.
That's what's so great about him. And there's unfortunately so
(51:02):
many haters.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
But the possibility of bringing peace to the region through
prosperity is definitely there. Look, as I was telling Blaze earlier,
his his beloved Las Vegas was nothing but a desert
until somebody had a vision. The Short North in Columbus
was a place for hookers and gangs until somebody had
a vision. It can be done. And if you've got
(51:23):
people who are living in Gaza now, living in an
oasis with tourist dollars pouring in, and why why do
they need Jerusalem at that point, much like Christians who say,
well Christmas says that about buying presents before they run
out to Walmart, it's the same thing. Those religious convictions
will kind of slow when you can live in Gaza
and live beautifully and wonderful.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
I have money in your pocket, I would I would
invest in Trump Gaza Plaza, so.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
You know, I would never I never bet against the guy.
How about that.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
Good I don't know gambling like you do.
Speaker 8 (51:55):
Uh, and I don't gamble in the Vegas style, but
I would not bet against that guy.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Anything you out of trademark that Gaza Plaza. You might
be onto something with that of.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
Plaza Trump Trump Goza Plaza Trump gouyz of Plaza Again.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
It's eight three three Armor Up dot com. You can
also call eight three three Don Ross D O N
R O S S. And people can just if you
want to, just call. Don'll tell you about, you know,
all kinds of different stuff while flow, while he flew
choppers in the military. He'll just tell you stories any
of that stuff. I mean, he's he's up for any
(52:29):
of that. You can just contact him. He'll tell you
all of the Don Ross Rosswildadvisors dot com. Don thank
you very much, appreciate you brother, and we'll talk soon
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Talk too, bye, See you man,
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