July 16, 2025 • 19 mins
"Confident women don't compete." Miley Cyrus joined Ryan Seacrest in-studio and enlightened us all. Listen back to the full 20-minute interview with the "Something Beautiful" artist here to learn what it's like working with Beyoncé, the mantras Miley lives by and why she's happy her fans sing along loudly to her new visual album & movie:
Cyrus' new visual album "Something Beautiful" premieres on Hulu and Disney+ today, July 16, and the Disney alum shared with Seacrest the project is a testament to how she's "always growing."
The raw, cinematic journey through love, loss, and self-discovery is rooted in healing.
"When I really actually started to minimize the idea and the concept it became more pure," Cyrus reflected on the "challenging" new project.
"I knew I wanted to open the movie with a prayer because no matter what you believe in ... any time the world, we, come together and we say a piece or a prayer together that's the most powerful."
Miley added she recently "did some meditation at a monastery" and learned that she prefers connection over silence.
"I would make it not silent ... I thought you know if I ever had the Miley monastery the house rules would be a little different," she joked. "I've learned sometimes things don't have to be so drastic."
"My mantra is 'don't run away,'" Miley shared, adding that while yes she still gets nervous to perform, she tells herself to "do it anyway."
"Do it anyway -- the things that you do that you're afraid of -- the challenges really do change you."
Miley said she was actually inspired by viewers being annoyed during "Wicked" screenings of others singing along.
"I want that," Miley shared of her film. "I want the annoyance of the person sitting next to you singing louder ... because I love the communal part of music."
The movies release comes on the heels of Miley's now-viral guest performance during Beyoncé's Paris "Cowboy Carter" tour stop.
"I invited myself," Miley joked. "I was in Paris already and me and everybody else wanted to go to the Beyoncé show in Paris but because I am Dolly's goddaughter I can't do anything for fun I've got to turn it into work. ... She's everything that you would want her to be," Miley gushed of Queen Bey. "Meet your heroes when it comes to Beyoncé."
"Confident women don't compete and that's why both of us get to stand there in our own lane and just celebrate each other," Miley added. "Together we can be really powerful so I thought it was metaphorical that she gave me her riser [for my entrance]. ... That wasn't something I was always given in the past. ... It just shows -- I thought it was a true testament to the kind of woman that she is."
Listen back to the full interview for more, including to find out which tracks Miley has actually replaced on streaming after "despising" certain mixes off her albums.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Miley Stars. She's been in that seat so many times.
I feel like you've sat in that seat over the generations.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I definitely have. I think I've been here with no teeth,
with braces on my teeth, probably in a Hannah wig
at some point. My grandmother, who now has passed. You know,
who was your girlfriend? Is what she told us.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
All we know this.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah, my grandma came here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My grandma's had the same glasses since nineteen sixty. Literally
they're hot pink with diamonds everywhere. And my grandma walked
in and Ryan said, who's the haughty with Miley? And
she took that to the very last day that she
was the Ryan's girlfriend. So that really was a nice
family moment. I know my Lane, I know my exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So, by the way, what does it just speaking of
different generations, your grandma, yourself being here over the years,
what does it mean to you to have fans of
so many different generations? Now, my niece six, like she
knew you were coming on. She was excited. My mom
knows you're here. She's excited.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Well I was that way.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I was just talking actually to Dolly this morning about that,
because she called me she's got a you know, her
new Broadway play that's premiering in Nashville and then going
to New York. And she just shows you that you
can never stop evolving and changing and exploring your lanes.
And I think that's how you really keep a relevant career,
is that you just are always growing with the audience.
(01:21):
And when I see young people that weren't even around
when Hannah Montana was on air, it's you know, very
meaningful because they don't know me just from the show.
They know me as Miley, they actually don't know me
as Hannah. But there's a longevity and a loyalty with
my fan base that's definitely, you know, reminiscent of how
Dolly has been with her fans.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Dolly Parton.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, this is like royalty, not just music royalty,
all entertain like Planet's royalty.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And she's you know, loved for her And even though
there's a characterization of Dolly Parton, she is loved as
you know, as a real human that's underneath all of
the drag, which you know, that's all what it is.
We you know, we all have our own sense of
an alter ego or a drag queen, or our own
Hannah Montana.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That makes us feel powerful.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Miley Cyrus. Here, I was thinking back because we have
not talked in a while. Here on the show, I
was thinking back to when you won your first Grammy. Right,
it was twenty twenty four, you won your first Grammy.
You sang, you dropped the mic. I remember Oprah singing
along job legend was iconic feet right to me, that was.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Like a moment. If I'm you thinking, holy that just happened.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, no one can tell me anything now because Oprah
sang along to myself.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
She's saying she sing flowers.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Now I'm done.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So now anyone tries to tell me anything you know
past the salad, Well, Oprah sang to flowers.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So maybe not you know?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So she did you know her before?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I was on Oprah?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
When I was younger, we did an episode where I
got to perform with Joan Jet for the first time
because it was idols meeting their idols. So I've known
her from then, but she wasn't you know someone that
I can't say that I know Oprah, But I don't
know if any of us ever will, which is the allure.
I do you really want to I don't want to know,
I don't want to know share, like I don't want
to know my queens.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, no, But watching the cutaway it stuck with me
to this day. A cutaway of you singing your first Grammy.
She's singing along and John legends on his feet at
the end of it was like.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Honestly, Christie and John were keeping me going because they
were singing along such good energy.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I was so nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You know, I still get anxious in situations like that
and singing Oh yeah, I mean the Grammys.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Is that makes me happy? And A yeah, that's top.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Tier, that's you know, everyone in the audience is the
best of the best, So you're not just performing for like,
if you have bad pitch and you're just playing a
show in Kansas, ninety percent of the audience will have
no idea that you have bad pitch. But if you're
sitting at the Grammys, you know, damn well that Beyonce's
like that was good, but it was pitchy, and you know,
you don't think I'm doing it. I I do have
(03:48):
an ear where I'm enjoying someone's show, but I'm also
kind of like, you know, I'm just listening, and so
a regular audience doesn't do that in the way that
these professional, best of the best singers do.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, I'm curious, and what do you you do to
overcome it? Like when you get nervous like that in
a pressure moment, what do you.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Do do it?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Anyway, the things that you do that you're afraid of
are you know, they're the things that really change the
challenges really do change you. And I have something in
my mind that is really my mantra, and it's don't
run away. And even in this moment, you know, talking
with you all, I always have a moment before because
this is not as much as this is a part
(04:25):
of my life and it's been a part of my
life for a long time. My day to day is
kind of much more regular and kind of you know,
just humble, and it's in its own kind of normalcy
of my life and I've designed it that way. And
so when you're in these kind of situations that your everyone,
like I said, has a version of themselves. That's a
performance and you want to be honest, but you also
(04:47):
all of us perform in a way of protection. So
I tell myself, don't run away, and usually it all
settles and to feel really nervous or to feel butterflies
or anxiety is completely normal when you're warming for Oprah
and Beyonce.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
So you just go. It would be weird if I
wasn't nervous and.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Be human and you settle in congratulate in the Grammy
with Beyonce too. So Miley and Beyonce obviously want a
Grammy after her first one. And she's in Paris, Beyonce's
on your Paris. You want to show in Paris. Beyonce's
on stage and she brings out Miley as a surprise.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I invited myself.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
How how did it happen?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So I was in Paris already, and you know, me
and everybody else wanted to go to the Beyonce show
in Paris. But again, I'm just you know, because I
am Dolly's god daughter. I can't do anything for fun.
I have to turn it into.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's got to be projects.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's got to be a project. So yes, I want
to go to the Beyonce concert, but I don't want
to watch. I want to be a part of it.
So I get to do both. I got to be
a part of it. And she's everything that you would
want her to be up close personally, you know, rehearsals,
she is you know, meet your heroes when it comes
to Beyonce, because.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
She she puts the work in. There's the work in.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
She's super you know, kind of warm with that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Everybody makes everybody on the crew, you know, feel as
valuable as they are. And then the show after that
is one of the best shows, if not the best
I've ever gotten to see live.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I mean, of our generation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think she's probably is the top tier best performer
that we.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Have totally well to your right, who works for us,
who's one of our favorite people here is Ronnie Rye
fell Off fell Off from that show.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He was there. Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Saw you come out and Ronnie take us into your
head in that moment.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
It was the craziest thing ever. Like even when she
started the show, she was like, we have a very
special show for you, and I was like, something's happening
because that's like I've seen the show at that point,
was my third time seeing it, so I was like,
something special is happening. And I saw you did an
interview saying, Hey, if I do come out with Beiance,
I want to come out in Paris. So I was like, Okay,
(06:51):
you know my leader.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yes, you planted the seed.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
So you're like, okay, I want to come out in Paris.
So I was like, okay, she has three nights in Paris.
I'm at night one. What are the chances Miley's coming out?
I saw all over Twitter there like Miley's coming, Miley's coming.
I was like, I don't want to get my hopes
up just in case. And then literally I'm there on
the floor and you appeared.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
It was.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You appeared out of fin air my life truly.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
By that riser.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
The like yes, and I love because I think that's
a real testament to her and you know, her support.
You know, confident women don't compete, and so that's why
both of a get to stand there in our own
lane and just celebrate each other. I'm not insecure, she's
on insecure, so together we can be really powerful. And
(07:38):
I thought that it was, you know, kind of metaphorical
that she gave me her riser, because that's the way
that women that support others, that's what you do, is
you go, how can I make your entrance something that
is really special and gives you all the power. And
that wasn't you know something that I was always given,
you know, and the hall in the past, and so that.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Just you know it all that's interesting someone or people
did not do that for you.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I think too. It's when you're a guest.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, they always everyone you're the guest on the
guests and they kind of give you this like guest entrance.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
And just to remind you, this is not your shape
exactly as if I didn't know, as if I'm not
riding a horseshoe around ninety I got it, but it
just shows I really thought that was just a true
kind of testament to the kind of woman that she is.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Here is a little clip of that, and then we'll
come back with Miley Cyrus and talk about the visual
album streaming on Hulu and Disney Plus today.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
The day you think you can hear Ronnie's scream Here
at the start, I was also frying the day Ailey
(09:02):
Cyrus beyance that was in Paris a while ago, not
too long ago.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Actually, we'll come back here, kiss, I've been with my life.
I see christ with you. Tanya here sist on vacation
this week, Miley Cyrus spending some time very important day,
very big day. The visual album from Miley Miley Sarrus
Something Beautiful is out on Hulu and Disney Plus exciting
there all right. So approaching a visual album versus making
(09:27):
an album, what's the difference.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, I've always been inspired visually when I'm making a record,
but you don't always make, you know, a piece like this,
and for many reasons of which I learned the hard
way on this one. Not only is it a lot
of a lot of work, but to make everything interesting
and tell the stories within a reasonable budget is a
(09:52):
new challenge that, you know, because I'm a big dreamer,
which means you need deep pockets for that. And when
I really actually kind of started to minimalize the idea
and the concept, it became more pure because I think sometimes,
especially in my past, I've allowed the concepts or maybe
even it's you know, the kind of the controversy that
(10:15):
surrounded an album or something kind of eclipsed the music itself.
And so by creating something that is extravagant and we
hope to be really beautiful, it's also really simple and
kind of minimal, and I think that gave the platform
in the stage to the music, which doesn't always come first.
So that was kind of an important pillar that we kept,
(10:35):
you know, structurally integral that the music comes first.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
In starting the visual album, You've got the prelude from
her album as well, and the metaphors that are in
that prelude, and you know, one of which starts with
like when following an image from a train, your eyes
can't keep the passing landscapes and it.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Goes on so curiously.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
How did you distill it down to those metaphors in
that direction from the top From the beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, I knew I wanted to open the movie with
a prayer because I think, no matter what you believe
in or you know, separate from spirituality or religion, I think,
you know, anytime the world, you know, we come together
and we say a piece or a prayer together, I
think that's really the most powerful changes.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And movements that we make.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And so I knew that I wanted to open my
film with a prayer, and as I kept, you know,
writing that, and I felt it's really what the world
needed at that time. The final line, the beauty one
finds alone as a prayer that longs to be shared
is I've I mean, this is kind of a silly story,
but I went to I did some meditation at a monastery,
(11:45):
and I noticed that it was a very kind of
individualized and isolated experience that everyone was praying obviously quietly
to not disturb the rest, And I kind.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Of thought, if you're so, you know, if you've got
this wisdom in this light meant to me.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm the person that wants to whisper to the person
next to me and communicate and connect. And so I thought,
you know, I like what they've got going on here.
But if I was to have my own monastery, I
would make it not silent, because I feel that's very
me that I.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Think it's important, you know, to be able.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And I get that you don't want to disrupt or
interrupt someone else's kind of like, you know, personal journey
that they're on. But I'm the one that wants to
tell you about my journey immediately.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Would you interrupt anyone on this meditation.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Or I did hold it to myself. I did not
want to. Everything in me was already jumping ahead, which
is also what you're supposed to not be doing into meditation.
You're not supposed to be writing your next movie or album. Yeah,
you're not supposed to be doing that. But so I
did not disrupt, but I thought, you know, if I
ever had the Miley Monastery, this would be the house
rules would be a little different.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Would you ever do a silent retreat?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I actually have that on my list of to dos
because I've I've learned too that sometimes things don't have
to be so drastic. You know that you can do
something of These retreats are three, five, seven, ten days.
You can really make these really big powerful shifts in
your life over these times that they're kind of more.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Condensed than that's a reasonable amount of time.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I think ten, yeah, ten days of silence is good.
You don't know this part of me, but I actually
do really enjoy my alone time. And I think I
spend so much of my time performing and entertaining and
projecting that actually I really crave.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Like kind of silence and alone time.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Get I can do after this, And I can do
because I'd be with my favorite person, having my favorite
conversations with myself, which then I'm all good because no
one says nothing about you know, you talk to yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I do.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And I'm into me, Like I think I've made that
pretty clear. I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm indoor, I'm picking up what she's putting down. I'm
down to spend time with me. But I think that's
that's maybe the part of the isolation that they want
you to question is how okay are you with you?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I like it. I'm starting with ten hours of these voices.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Uh, Miley Cyrus here the visual album? So what was
your when you when you watch what you saw it?
When when'd you see the whole thing edited together? I'm
sure you saw it along the way, piece by.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Piece, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I was in the editing room and I did every minute,
you know, sitting creating this together. But to actually see
it at Tribeca, I think was the moment that it
felt the most real, sharing that with you know, the audience,
and the album had been out, so the audience was
singing along, and uh, I was kind of inspired by
Wicked because I remember that everyone was really annoyed when
(14:32):
everyone was singing along in the theaters, and I thought,
I want that. I want I want the annoyance of
the person you know sitting next to you to be
singing louder than I am, because I love the communal
part of music, and I think with our isolated experiences
like streaming, and you know, so much music as being
taken in on headphones. It's so isolating, it's so personal that,
(14:53):
you know, growing up going to a record store with
my brothers and sisters and my friends and buying an
album and going back in the car and listening to
it together.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
We really had this time that we all heard.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I heard hit Me Baby one more time for the
first time with a car full of people, and all
of us knew that it was special.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And when you have a moment like.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That in music, it's really really special, which is why
I think still being a part of the radio is
just so important because I remember so much music that
I've heard for the first time by just I remember
Rihanna didn't even exist.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I didn't even know what it was until I was
on my way.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'll never forget I was on my way to school
and Rihanna came on the radio. It was the first
time I had ever heard her before, and that changed me.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Period.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
If you're in school when we were here as probably.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It was the first song the ballad murder Oh Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Reason why that was playing. I was in my nannies,
little my babysitters, little Buick, and I was on the
way the Champagne Buick, pulling up to school, listen to
rere and it was everything.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And I was a guy unfaithful. That's the song.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah and now and now when I see her like today,
I remember that moment.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And you know, the young kids today, they won't they
won't get some.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Of the experiences that I got to get with the
radio because I even called and requested.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I might have even called even before.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You really recalled Rick D's Then I did.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I did.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was in Nashville, and I kept calling, calling, calling,
calling until someone answered the phone.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And then I got to freaked out and I made
uh by the way.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I called him as well, and I got freaked out
because I wanted to come be a DJ after him.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I hear my voice on the radio.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh no, well you overcame that.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Do you tell me about your being? You're good with yourself,
You're go with you. Do you like do you hear
a lyric that you wrote? And when you hear it
every time you go, I am a genius.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I really like the more to Lose lyric.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Are my tears are streaming like our favorite show Tonight,
which I thought was maybe going to be very cringe.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
But the reason that I wrote is well, I thought
it was either so.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Modern that it was going to be cringey, or it
was going to be like call Me by Blondie. Because
when I think about, you know what call me means
now historically, and you imagine telephone booths, and you know
that what call me meant at that time. It that's
what streaming is today, us calling each other streaming. It
kind of puts it in a in a nice time
(17:13):
capital I think.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, do you listen to you when you exercise?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
When I exercise?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
No, I don't listen to me necessarily when I exercise,
but I do shamelessly listen to myself sometimes when I'm
driving to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Malibu, just to Malibu.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, that's because it's like an hour drive.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Because I make bodies of work, Okay, I don't make singles,
So I listen the entire This is okay.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well, next, this is a this is an LA County.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I'm not looking at my phone. I'm driving, I'm
not skipping around. So I put on one album top
to bottom. I listened to esp I listen to Dead
pet something beautiful. But you know I don't have time
to thumb through my faves. I listened to the Body
of Art.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you listen to Malibu while driving a Malibu?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I listened to Malibu sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But see, I have too many production notes that sometimes
I can't listen to my own music because I can't
enjoy it without making notes.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It is perfect? Do you have Did they have to
tell you stop working on it? We got to release?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, That's what I love most about streaming is that
you can actually take songs down and replace them with
new mixes, which I have done before. On Plastic Hearts
there's a song called hate Me and I despised the
mix and I have swapped it out. So if you
have the CD and you listen on streaming, they're completely
as wild card on ESB CD, streaming is different. There's
(18:25):
a synth missing on the on the streaming at first,
and then I replaced it, so I can't quite working
on it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't this. Maybe this is like a term people
don't like. But is it perfectionism? Is it wanting to
just do the best you can't like?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
What is that for you?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I wouldn't say that I'm necessarily a perfectionist, because I
do think that that's sometimes more of the beautiful things,
like I love a good distortion in the mix or
something that you get to feel. But probably a sense
of maybe obsessiveness. I'm a bit, you know, a bit obsessive.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Quickly, before you go, what's the lens you look through
when you make a decision in your world, in your
I think, in your creative world, in your in your work, I.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Would say, uh, meaning and time to look at time
from an overhead view, and don't get too lost in
today because today is yesterday and it all moves forward.
And to me, I think you know something about quality work.
It's timeless. It's never going to go out of style.
(19:26):
Dolly actually said today, she said, some.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Call it old school. I call it old cool, and
you you keep it classic.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And I know I don't think that quality and uh,
you know, devotion is ever going to go out of style.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Miley, with the quotes today.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
We're gonna go back to We're gonna go back and
listen to ourselves of you after this show, just to
hear all of these. Thus again, all right, Miley Cyrus,
thanks for being here. Thank you so much, visual album
Beautiful Disney Bus Today, I'll see you.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Thanks for you, Thank you,
Miley Stars. She's been in that seat so many times.
I feel like you've sat in that seat over the generations.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I definitely have. I think I've been here with no teeth,
with braces on my teeth, probably in a Hannah wig
at some point. My grandmother, who now has passed. You know,
who was your girlfriend? Is what she told us.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
All we know this.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah, my grandma came here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My grandma's had the same glasses since nineteen sixty. Literally
they're hot pink with diamonds everywhere. And my grandma walked
in and Ryan said, who's the haughty with Miley? And
she took that to the very last day that she
was the Ryan's girlfriend. So that really was a nice
family moment. I know my Lane, I know my exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So, by the way, what does it just speaking of
different generations, your grandma, yourself being here over the years,
what does it mean to you to have fans of
so many different generations? Now, my niece six, like she
knew you were coming on. She was excited. My mom
knows you're here. She's excited.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Well I was that way.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I was just talking actually to Dolly this morning about that,
because she called me she's got a you know, her
new Broadway play that's premiering in Nashville and then going
to New York. And she just shows you that you
can never stop evolving and changing and exploring your lanes.
And I think that's how you really keep a relevant career,
is that you just are always growing with the audience.
(01:21):
And when I see young people that weren't even around
when Hannah Montana was on air, it's you know, very
meaningful because they don't know me just from the show.
They know me as Miley, they actually don't know me
as Hannah. But there's a longevity and a loyalty with
my fan base that's definitely, you know, reminiscent of how
Dolly has been with her fans.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Dolly Parton.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean, this is like royalty, not just music royalty,
all entertain like Planet's royalty.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And she's you know, loved for her And even though
there's a characterization of Dolly Parton, she is loved as
you know, as a real human that's underneath all of
the drag, which you know, that's all what it is.
We you know, we all have our own sense of
an alter ego or a drag queen, or our own
Hannah Montana.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That makes us feel powerful.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Miley Cyrus. Here, I was thinking back because we have
not talked in a while. Here on the show, I
was thinking back to when you won your first Grammy. Right,
it was twenty twenty four, you won your first Grammy.
You sang, you dropped the mic. I remember Oprah singing
along job legend was iconic feet right to me, that was.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Like a moment. If I'm you thinking, holy that just happened.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, no one can tell me anything now because Oprah
sang along to myself.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
She's saying she sing flowers.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Now I'm done.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So now anyone tries to tell me anything you know
past the salad, Well, Oprah sang to flowers.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So maybe not you know?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So she did you know her before?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I was on Oprah?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
When I was younger, we did an episode where I
got to perform with Joan Jet for the first time
because it was idols meeting their idols. So I've known
her from then, but she wasn't you know someone that
I can't say that I know Oprah, But I don't
know if any of us ever will, which is the allure.
I do you really want to I don't want to know,
I don't want to know share, like I don't want
to know my queens.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, no, But watching the cutaway it stuck with me
to this day. A cutaway of you singing your first Grammy.
She's singing along and John legends on his feet at
the end of it was like.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Honestly, Christie and John were keeping me going because they
were singing along such good energy.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I was so nervous.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You know, I still get anxious in situations like that
and singing Oh yeah, I mean the Grammys.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Is that makes me happy? And A yeah, that's top.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Tier, that's you know, everyone in the audience is the
best of the best, So you're not just performing for like,
if you have bad pitch and you're just playing a
show in Kansas, ninety percent of the audience will have
no idea that you have bad pitch. But if you're
sitting at the Grammys, you know, damn well that Beyonce's
like that was good, but it was pitchy, and you know,
you don't think I'm doing it. I I do have
(03:48):
an ear where I'm enjoying someone's show, but I'm also
kind of like, you know, I'm just listening, and so
a regular audience doesn't do that in the way that
these professional, best of the best singers do.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, I'm curious, and what do you you do to
overcome it? Like when you get nervous like that in
a pressure moment, what do you.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Do do it?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Anyway, the things that you do that you're afraid of
are you know, they're the things that really change the
challenges really do change you. And I have something in
my mind that is really my mantra, and it's don't
run away. And even in this moment, you know, talking
with you all, I always have a moment before because
this is not as much as this is a part
(04:25):
of my life and it's been a part of my
life for a long time. My day to day is
kind of much more regular and kind of you know,
just humble, and it's in its own kind of normalcy
of my life and I've designed it that way. And
so when you're in these kind of situations that your everyone,
like I said, has a version of themselves. That's a
performance and you want to be honest, but you also
(04:47):
all of us perform in a way of protection. So
I tell myself, don't run away, and usually it all
settles and to feel really nervous or to feel butterflies
or anxiety is completely normal when you're warming for Oprah
and Beyonce.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
So you just go. It would be weird if I
wasn't nervous and.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Be human and you settle in congratulate in the Grammy
with Beyonce too. So Miley and Beyonce obviously want a
Grammy after her first one. And she's in Paris, Beyonce's
on your Paris. You want to show in Paris. Beyonce's
on stage and she brings out Miley as a surprise.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I invited myself.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
How how did it happen?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So I was in Paris already, and you know, me
and everybody else wanted to go to the Beyonce show
in Paris. But again, I'm just you know, because I
am Dolly's god daughter. I can't do anything for fun.
I have to turn it into.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's got to be projects.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's got to be a project. So yes, I want
to go to the Beyonce concert, but I don't want
to watch. I want to be a part of it.
So I get to do both. I got to be
a part of it. And she's everything that you would
want her to be up close personally, you know, rehearsals,
she is you know, meet your heroes when it comes
to Beyonce, because.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
She she puts the work in. There's the work in.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
She's super you know, kind of warm with that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Everybody makes everybody on the crew, you know, feel as
valuable as they are. And then the show after that
is one of the best shows, if not the best
I've ever gotten to see live.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I mean, of our generation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think she's probably is the top tier best performer
that we.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Have totally well to your right, who works for us,
who's one of our favorite people here is Ronnie Rye
fell Off fell Off from that show.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He was there. Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Saw you come out and Ronnie take us into your
head in that moment.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
It was the craziest thing ever. Like even when she
started the show, she was like, we have a very
special show for you, and I was like, something's happening
because that's like I've seen the show at that point,
was my third time seeing it, so I was like,
something special is happening. And I saw you did an
interview saying, Hey, if I do come out with Beiance,
I want to come out in Paris. So I was like, Okay,
(06:51):
you know my leader.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yes, you planted the seed.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
So you're like, okay, I want to come out in Paris.
So I was like, okay, she has three nights in Paris.
I'm at night one. What are the chances Miley's coming out?
I saw all over Twitter there like Miley's coming, Miley's coming.
I was like, I don't want to get my hopes
up just in case. And then literally I'm there on
the floor and you appeared.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
It was.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You appeared out of fin air my life truly.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
By that riser.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
The like yes, and I love because I think that's
a real testament to her and you know, her support.
You know, confident women don't compete, and so that's why
both of a get to stand there in our own
lane and just celebrate each other. I'm not insecure, she's
on insecure, so together we can be really powerful. And
(07:38):
I thought that it was, you know, kind of metaphorical
that she gave me her riser, because that's the way
that women that support others, that's what you do, is
you go, how can I make your entrance something that
is really special and gives you all the power. And
that wasn't you know something that I was always given,
you know, and the hall in the past, and so that.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Just you know it all that's interesting someone or people
did not do that for you.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I think too. It's when you're a guest.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, they always everyone you're the guest on the
guests and they kind of give you this like guest entrance.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
And just to remind you, this is not your shape
exactly as if I didn't know, as if I'm not
riding a horseshoe around ninety I got it, but it
just shows I really thought that was just a true
kind of testament to the kind of woman that she is.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Here is a little clip of that, and then we'll
come back with Miley Cyrus and talk about the visual
album streaming on Hulu and Disney Plus today.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
The day you think you can hear Ronnie's scream Here
at the start, I was also frying the day Ailey
(09:02):
Cyrus beyance that was in Paris a while ago, not
too long ago.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Actually, we'll come back here, kiss, I've been with my life.
I see christ with you. Tanya here sist on vacation
this week, Miley Cyrus spending some time very important day,
very big day. The visual album from Miley Miley Sarrus
Something Beautiful is out on Hulu and Disney Plus exciting
there all right. So approaching a visual album versus making
(09:27):
an album, what's the difference.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, I've always been inspired visually when I'm making a record,
but you don't always make, you know, a piece like this,
and for many reasons of which I learned the hard
way on this one. Not only is it a lot
of a lot of work, but to make everything interesting
and tell the stories within a reasonable budget is a
(09:52):
new challenge that, you know, because I'm a big dreamer,
which means you need deep pockets for that. And when
I really actually kind of started to minimalize the idea
and the concept, it became more pure because I think sometimes,
especially in my past, I've allowed the concepts or maybe
even it's you know, the kind of the controversy that
(10:15):
surrounded an album or something kind of eclipsed the music itself.
And so by creating something that is extravagant and we
hope to be really beautiful, it's also really simple and
kind of minimal, and I think that gave the platform
in the stage to the music, which doesn't always come first.
So that was kind of an important pillar that we kept,
(10:35):
you know, structurally integral that the music comes first.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
In starting the visual album, You've got the prelude from
her album as well, and the metaphors that are in
that prelude, and you know, one of which starts with
like when following an image from a train, your eyes
can't keep the passing landscapes and it.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Goes on so curiously.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
How did you distill it down to those metaphors in
that direction from the top From the beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, I knew I wanted to open the movie with
a prayer because I think, no matter what you believe
in or you know, separate from spirituality or religion, I think,
you know, anytime the world, you know, we come together
and we say a piece or a prayer together, I
think that's really the most powerful changes.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And movements that we make.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And so I knew that I wanted to open my
film with a prayer, and as I kept, you know,
writing that, and I felt it's really what the world
needed at that time. The final line, the beauty one
finds alone as a prayer that longs to be shared
is I've I mean, this is kind of a silly story,
but I went to I did some meditation at a monastery,
(11:45):
and I noticed that it was a very kind of
individualized and isolated experience that everyone was praying obviously quietly
to not disturb the rest, And I kind.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Of thought, if you're so, you know, if you've got
this wisdom in this light meant to me.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm the person that wants to whisper to the person
next to me and communicate and connect. And so I thought,
you know, I like what they've got going on here.
But if I was to have my own monastery, I
would make it not silent, because I feel that's very
me that I.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Think it's important, you know, to be able.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And I get that you don't want to disrupt or
interrupt someone else's kind of like, you know, personal journey
that they're on. But I'm the one that wants to
tell you about my journey immediately.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Would you interrupt anyone on this meditation.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Or I did hold it to myself. I did not
want to. Everything in me was already jumping ahead, which
is also what you're supposed to not be doing into meditation.
You're not supposed to be writing your next movie or album. Yeah,
you're not supposed to be doing that. But so I
did not disrupt, but I thought, you know, if I
ever had the Miley Monastery, this would be the house
rules would be a little different.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Would you ever do a silent retreat?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I actually have that on my list of to dos
because I've I've learned too that sometimes things don't have
to be so drastic. You know that you can do
something of These retreats are three, five, seven, ten days.
You can really make these really big powerful shifts in
your life over these times that they're kind of more.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Condensed than that's a reasonable amount of time.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I think ten, yeah, ten days of silence is good.
You don't know this part of me, but I actually
do really enjoy my alone time. And I think I
spend so much of my time performing and entertaining and
projecting that actually I really crave.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Like kind of silence and alone time.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Get I can do after this, And I can do
because I'd be with my favorite person, having my favorite
conversations with myself, which then I'm all good because no
one says nothing about you know, you talk to yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I do.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And I'm into me, Like I think I've made that
pretty clear. I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm indoor, I'm picking up what she's putting down. I'm
down to spend time with me. But I think that's
that's maybe the part of the isolation that they want
you to question is how okay are you with you?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I like it. I'm starting with ten hours of these voices.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Uh, Miley Cyrus here the visual album? So what was
your when you when you watch what you saw it?
When when'd you see the whole thing edited together? I'm
sure you saw it along the way, piece by.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Piece, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I was in the editing room and I did every minute,
you know, sitting creating this together. But to actually see
it at Tribeca, I think was the moment that it
felt the most real, sharing that with you know, the audience,
and the album had been out, so the audience was
singing along, and uh, I was kind of inspired by
Wicked because I remember that everyone was really annoyed when
(14:32):
everyone was singing along in the theaters, and I thought,
I want that. I want I want the annoyance of
the person you know sitting next to you to be
singing louder than I am, because I love the communal
part of music, and I think with our isolated experiences
like streaming, and you know, so much music as being
taken in on headphones. It's so isolating, it's so personal that,
(14:53):
you know, growing up going to a record store with
my brothers and sisters and my friends and buying an
album and going back in the car and listening to
it together.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
We really had this time that we all heard.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I heard hit Me Baby one more time for the
first time with a car full of people, and all
of us knew that it was special.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And when you have a moment like.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That in music, it's really really special, which is why
I think still being a part of the radio is
just so important because I remember so much music that
I've heard for the first time by just I remember
Rihanna didn't even exist.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I didn't even know what it was until I was
on my way.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'll never forget I was on my way to school
and Rihanna came on the radio. It was the first
time I had ever heard her before, and that changed me.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Period.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
If you're in school when we were here as probably.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It was the first song the ballad murder Oh Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Reason why that was playing. I was in my nannies,
little my babysitters, little Buick, and I was on the
way the Champagne Buick, pulling up to school, listen to
rere and it was everything.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And I was a guy unfaithful. That's the song.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah and now and now when I see her like today,
I remember that moment.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And you know, the young kids today, they won't they
won't get some.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Of the experiences that I got to get with the
radio because I even called and requested.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I might have even called even before.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You really recalled Rick D's Then I did.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I did.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was in Nashville, and I kept calling, calling, calling,
calling until someone answered the phone.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And then I got to freaked out and I made
uh by the way.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I called him as well, and I got freaked out
because I wanted to come be a DJ after him.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I hear my voice on the radio.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh no, well you overcame that.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, that was fine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Do you tell me about your being? You're good with yourself,
You're go with you. Do you like do you hear
a lyric that you wrote? And when you hear it
every time you go, I am a genius.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I really like the more to Lose lyric.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Are my tears are streaming like our favorite show Tonight,
which I thought was maybe going to be very cringe.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
But the reason that I wrote is well, I thought
it was either so.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Modern that it was going to be cringey, or it
was going to be like call Me by Blondie. Because
when I think about, you know what call me means
now historically, and you imagine telephone booths, and you know
that what call me meant at that time. It that's
what streaming is today, us calling each other streaming. It
kind of puts it in a in a nice time
(17:13):
capital I think.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, do you listen to you when you exercise?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
When I exercise?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
No, I don't listen to me necessarily when I exercise,
but I do shamelessly listen to myself sometimes when I'm
driving to.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Malibu, just to Malibu.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, that's because it's like an hour drive.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Because I make bodies of work, Okay, I don't make singles,
So I listen the entire This is okay.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well, next, this is a this is an LA County.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I'm not looking at my phone. I'm driving, I'm
not skipping around. So I put on one album top
to bottom. I listened to esp I listen to Dead
pet something beautiful. But you know I don't have time
to thumb through my faves. I listened to the Body
of Art.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you listen to Malibu while driving a Malibu?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I listened to Malibu sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But see, I have too many production notes that sometimes
I can't listen to my own music because I can't
enjoy it without making notes.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It is perfect? Do you have Did they have to
tell you stop working on it? We got to release?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, That's what I love most about streaming is that
you can actually take songs down and replace them with
new mixes, which I have done before. On Plastic Hearts
there's a song called hate Me and I despised the
mix and I have swapped it out. So if you
have the CD and you listen on streaming, they're completely
as wild card on ESB CD, streaming is different. There's
(18:25):
a synth missing on the on the streaming at first,
and then I replaced it, so I can't quite working
on it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't this. Maybe this is like a term people
don't like. But is it perfectionism? Is it wanting to
just do the best you can't like?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
What is that for you?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I wouldn't say that I'm necessarily a perfectionist, because I
do think that that's sometimes more of the beautiful things,
like I love a good distortion in the mix or
something that you get to feel. But probably a sense
of maybe obsessiveness. I'm a bit, you know, a bit obsessive.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Quickly, before you go, what's the lens you look through
when you make a decision in your world, in your
I think, in your creative world, in your in your work, I.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Would say, uh, meaning and time to look at time
from an overhead view, and don't get too lost in
today because today is yesterday and it all moves forward.
And to me, I think you know something about quality work.
It's timeless. It's never going to go out of style.
(19:26):
Dolly actually said today, she said, some.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Call it old school. I call it old cool, and
you you keep it classic.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And I know I don't think that quality and uh,
you know, devotion is ever going to go out of style.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Miley, with the quotes today.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
We're gonna go back to We're gonna go back and
listen to ourselves of you after this show, just to
hear all of these. Thus again, all right, Miley Cyrus,
thanks for being here. Thank you so much, visual album
Beautiful Disney Bus Today, I'll see you.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Thanks for you, Thank you,
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