October 7, 2025 • 21 mins
It's showtime baby! Taylor Swift joined Ryan Seacrest on-air on Tuesday, October 7th, to take us behind her new, record-shattering album The Life of a Showgirl. The "Elizabeth Taylor" songstress also shared about her engagement to Travis Kelce, why she wanted this album to sound completely different than the rest and why it was important to bring it to theaters for fans. Plus, is she team Conrad or team Jeremiah?! Listen back to the full interview here
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two point seven Kiss FM.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
There it is the track The Fate of Ophelia, and
guess what voice you're going to hear next, the reframer
of the story of the Fate of Ophelia. Taylor Swift,
Good morning, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hi, We're so excited forget about us, We're so much
to cover with you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh okay't wait, we're so excited to have you's.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Been it's been way too long since we've gone to chat.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I know, I know, and we have followed every step.
And a massive congratulations to you directly for everything's just
happening in your professional life and in your personal life
and then the infusion like you live in the intersection
of those two things in a really transparent way.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thank you, Thank you for saying that. It's It's been
the most wonderfully wild, chaotic, joyful, exciting week and I'm
just so happy that this album is out because it's
like this secret that you have. It's like wonderful secret
where you're like, oh my god, I got somebody a
(01:04):
Christmas present or something, and I'm really excited to see
them open it. And it's just been wonderful. I couldn't
have asked for more, And like just thanks for listening
to it. Thanks for just playing that song just then.
By the way, well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We're playing all the songs.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Sissy and I got a chance to see the movie
also over the weekend, and thank.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You for that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You really, yeah, I saw, we saw the whole thing
start to finish, you guys.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh my gosh. I went with all my mom friends,
are our kids, our daughters were dancing in the front
of the theater like it was a party.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're so supportive. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I just saw new box office numbers. Just I know,
I don't want you to say this, I will say
this for you. It is amazing, like a fifty million
plus worldwide tailor just for that least experience over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh my gosh. I just have to thank the fans
for that, because they're they're one hundred percent of the
reason behind that, the fact that they wanted to go
out and experience this music altogether.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And also, music videos, I put so much into them.
So many artists put so much into what they make
in terms of music videos. And I really love the
idea that, you know, maybe we should be debuting these
things in movie theaters. No, you know what honestly see
on a big screen.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I thought, giving, like, we listened to I have the
I got the album on vinyl, so I heard the
songs on vinyl before and I but when you told
us the context before each song, it really made a difference.
I mean, it really framed it in a way that
gave it obviously more meaning, but several layers to it,
(02:35):
which I guess was the intent.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I mean that's yeah, hopefully, Like that's that's amazing.
Because I used to do these things called secret sessions
at my house where I would invite fans to the
house and they would hear a new album that nobody
had heard before, and I would basically explain the context
of the songs to them before they would hear each song.
And so I wanted to sort of kind of infuse
(03:01):
a little bit of that energy into these movie theater
experiences and give the fans an insight into where I
was coming from when I was writing these songs, because like,
that's my favorite part of the process. I cannot tell
you how exciting it is for us when we're in
the studio writing these songs and bouncing ideas off of
each other, and when a lyric really clicks like. It
(03:23):
just is my favorite part of the process. So I
love getting to tell the fans kind of where I
was coming from when I wrote it, but also full
well knowing that it's going to go into their life
and it's going to be whatever they need it to be.
You know, like a good song is like a mirror.
You know, whoever looks into it sees a different thing
reflecting back. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, it's funny when you talked about ruin the friendship
that track and you listen to it and we listened
to it, and you talk about the specificity of something
in high school. I had a conversation after the movie
with a friend of mine about a specific conversation where
the person I was dating in high school she had
a special sandwich that she liked.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I got this subway.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It was a blimpy the subway sandwich, like a one
of those things, a big sandwich with onions and oregano.
And I drove to her other school and I was
going to surprise her, and I drove two and a
half hours and when I got there, she was with
another guy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And I think it ruined me forever.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But it like, oh my god, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, but I'm telling you this is my conversation moment
in your life.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
This is the reason that is for me, that would
be my villain origin story.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
This is you have me on cup for mine. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
We're not being dramatic, that's crazy, that's like this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The thing is like everything is so heightened when we're
in high school, Like everything is so intense, so heightened,
so catastrophic, so fleeting, and so that's I think that's
oftentimes why I return back to those memories. You know,
every once in a while, I'll go back there, you know,
like on Midnights. I wrote a song called Midnight Rain
(04:59):
on on you know, Folklore wrote a song called August,
like you go back to those kind of times that
you just felt like everything was was was the end
of the world like and uh, I mean because it
was for you back then. And that's valid.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, when you said second period, like think about that class.
I remember second period. Every it's just but that's what's great.
I mean, that's what was fun about listening to it
and having the context. And also you said at the
beginning of the movie that we saw about the album
with the tracks on the album in the order. You
talked about how you were working at this incredible tour,
(05:34):
breaking records right everywhere, and it was so it made
such an impact on you that you were inspired to
write these songs to make this album because of what
you were feeling and seeing while you were really busy
and while you have this relationship with Travis All at
the same time. And I thought that was interesting that
you were doing so much and seemingly, you know, working
(05:56):
and traveling, yet you still had all of that momentum
to come.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Up with more.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I mean, one thing actually ended up fueling the other
because being on the Era's tour was an experience unlike
anything I'd ever gone through in my life, and so
I wanted to capture those like heightened emotions. There was
such a sort of like windfall behind us, like I
(06:25):
just couldn't turn off the creativity, and it was it
was something that I'm always going to be so happy
that we captured in real time. Max, Max Martin and
Shellback and I hadn't worked together. They're unbelievable. They're unbelievable,
and I hadn't. I hadn't worked with them in you know,
seven or eight years since the reputation album, and so
(06:45):
when we got back in the studio, it was almost
like we were kind of drafting off of this creative
energy that was just bouncing off of this tour. And
that was one of the reasons why I wanted to
make it sort of show business themed, and I wanted
to be like pure chaos and like and like kind
of show goals running around, like just the scandal of it,
(07:06):
the fun of it, the excitement of it. Just show
girls inherently are entertainers. They are provocateurs, they are playful,
they're mischievous, they're funny, and so I wanted to encapsulate
that all in one album.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well you did it, then it is out with There's
I don't know how we're gonna get to it. I
have so much to get into. We'll come back. We'll
talk about the proposal. Got to ask you about the
wedding planning, all of it coming up with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
First, were paying a bill of the nine to five
to one.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Next that is new Taylor Swift opal Lite. We now
know after Taylor told us it's man made opal we
heard that context of this song. Taylor Swift is with
us now, opal Lite, actually your fiance Travis's favorite track
off the Life of a show Girl and No Secret
that you are engaged.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, it's not a secret at all. About two weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay, so you got to tight for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I did see Jason in promoting Money and My Football
ask your fiance about the wedding date, and he didn't
give an answer.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So do you have one.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I definitely feel like when I talk about the wedding,
I get so excited that it makes me just want
to Like, it makes you just want to talk about
it for like an hour, but it's just sort of
like I won't stop talking if I start, you know
what I mean. But I'm so happy that you're thank
you for being excited for us, because well I'm I'm
excited for us too.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Were you were you? Were you?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Like you are in a role he is in a
role where you put aside nerves. You just that's what
you can do.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
In this moment? Was were you?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean like that. The thing is like I share
so much of our relationship with the world that likes
the moment that that happened. It's like I'll have it
forever and that will always be mine. There's so much
that you know is shared with with the world when
it comes to the fact that we're both very public
facing people and both of our you know, career paths
(09:13):
involved entertaining people. So we're we're very like, we're very
kind of relaxed about things in a way, but we
also have I got to figure out like ways to
make sure that I do have things that are just
between us, and thankfully we do have a lot of
those things, and that moment in particular is one that's
always just going to be ours.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So and just curiously, do you remember when that happens?
Do you remember everything that sat? Do you really have
to go like replay it in your head?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Oh? I remember everything.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I remember everything I would.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Did you see it coming?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like did you know what was happening?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Like when your nail's done? Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh, I mean they we had done a podcast earlier
that day, so it was everything was fine, do you
know what I mean? Like I had I had like
my hair was fine, my makeup was fine, my nails rear,
like everything was like you know what you would what
you would have on for like I guess me doing
this like video podcast that we did, So that was all.
That was all kind of already in place, which is
(10:11):
kind of might have been part of the bait and
switch and part of the like ruse. Like I do
think he kind of like used the podcast as a
distraction and like a ruth for him to have that
set up made in the backyard. A clever guy's tricksy.
It's just that's the thing, Like when he's on the field,
they're like, we never know where he's going to pop up.
(10:31):
We never know what he's gonna do next, like he's clever.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, Taylor Swift is with us and the fate and
irony of this. I happened to have just been ordained
and married Tanya here on the show and her wedding,
so I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Know who's that's amazing. Yeah, what are the chances?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, he did a really really good good job, Like
really my name in the house.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You give it a good review.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I give it.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I would give it twenty stars out of ten, Like
I you really blew us away and.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
He was great, fantastic, So I want to speak how
close you guys are.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's well online course, and I'm allowed to do other weddings,
so I'm just throwing my name out there as officiated.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I am honored. I am honored that you would that
you would be up for that. That is fantastic. You
guys are amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It would be my honor. Honestly, I'm really into officiating
weddings these days. I'm enjoying myself. Taylor Swift is here.
We're coming back more. Hang on one second, we're on
kiss good morning. I just need to thank you Taylor
Swift with more. Next now, her friend Serena Carpenter is
doing a showcrypt dot com. I've sold out tickets for
you to win at one eight one two Steve and
(11:42):
call me now this.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh my gosh, I've ended the game.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So oh my.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Love you now.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
It's so many ways to love y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Maybe I can break you down.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
It's so many ways to love y'all. Y'all mean like,
oh my god, So when uh I found you finally leave,
make me wanna same?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh uh
oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Oh oh my god, make me under say.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I fell in love with shot.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
That man a scene up over the glass and she
was has a sexy pop pop popping dropping dropping oh
never ever pass a lady.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hit me on the first sight. This was something special.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
This what's just like time of night, honey gout of
who it like power power power honey cats.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Some like wow, oh wow, here you know I'm loving you, loving.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Your side jack check check check check checking you out,
like come.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
She got it up sexisting I had, and I hold
it up and.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Maybe let me.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Love me doe.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
There's so many ways love you. Maybe I can break
you down.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
That's so many ways love you. Got me like, oh
my gosh, I so in love.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I found you, find me and makes me want to
say oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Oh my gosh, you make me real.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Say.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You make me roll?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Say oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Also HARKing money, how all the girls are being a cook.
This one got me just up for one look if
I fell in love.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
This one's something special. This one just like got a life.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Pot of sight and fell in love on their life
by home by turning look the wonderful fly so fly
to turning like a supermodel My home mind, baby, how
you do that make a groom man?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Cry? Oh baby, you got.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Six weeks of my head.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Job, So honey, let me love your dime.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
There's so many ways and love y'all, baby, break it down.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The summon race love you like oh man, God, so
I found you finally.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Lee.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
You make me want to say oh oh oh oh, oh,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh my god, Ia co oh no God.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Not sure where I am? Why don't two point seven
kiss FM. We are spending some time chatting with Taylor
Swift this morning here. If you just joined us, Uh,
it's so great to talk to you. I know that
you've got luck going on. Taylor's new album, The Life
of a show Girl is out. I'm just this is
me curious something about you and how you look at
(16:05):
your universe. You know, I notice the affection that you
get from fans, the loyalty you get from fans of
all ages all over this planet. And I'm curious to
know how that not ways is like the wrong word,
but like there is a responsibility and you do it
like you you really.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I think you think about all of all of what
that means. Is that right? And how do you look
at it?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That's a really thoughtful and lovely question because it is
something that I think about all the time. I think,
you know, when the conversation of trying to get ownership
of my music. That's been sort of like a conversation
I've been having throughout my entire adult life. So I'm
very well of I'm aware of the idea of a legacy,
(16:53):
right because I've been trying to figure out how to
get ownership over my musical legacy, and you do so
sort of you try to be thoughtful about it. I mean,
it's it's from my perspective, the people who made music
when I was in my formative years of youth and
preteen and teen years and in my twenties, like those
(17:15):
songs really helped sort of like guide my emotionality and
my kind of I don't know, like kind of green
lighting it to be okay for me to feel certain ways.
And the more nuanced those songs were and the more
detailed they were, the more I felt like it was
fine that I was feeling these very like big, detailed, nuanced,
(17:38):
wild feelings, right, And so from where the music comes from,
I'm not only focused on like just trying to be
as specific as possible about how something feels for me,
because I know that helped me when other artists did it,
but also like variety and trying really hard to like,
make a different album this time than I made last time.
(18:01):
The whole last album was focused strictly on poetry, strictly
on poetry, and it was in the title. This one
is focusing strictly on vibes and show and excite, showmanship, excitement, mischief,
and just spectacle pop spectacle, and trying to do both
(18:22):
of those things back to back to the best of
my ability. That's because I take my job very seriously
as a person whose career path is entertaining people. I
really didn't want to do anything that was close to
like what I did last time. And I think that
the more you can vary things up and like show
people sort of like a dexterity of you can make
(18:45):
this and then you can turn around and make this
very different thing. Like that's also part of sort of
an example I'm trying to set in my industry.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's very interesting to hear from inside your minds.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, right, It's very interesting perspective from inside it because
you know, we get to see the product, like we
don't we don't necessarily always always get the detail of
that process. And uh, and I'm just I also want
to say that I make olive oil and so your
bread looks really good. I will send you my fresh
press all of them.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Because you want do you want to do like a
sort of like a farm stand? That sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
My little dream is that set up at a farmer's market.
That's going to be in my retirement. I'm going to
be at the farmers We got like a.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Farm co op.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This is exactly there.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You go.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Thanks so much for calling and Taylor, congratulations on everything.
We appreciate the friendship over the years.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes, thank you so much for everything. You guys are amazing,
and also thank you for such thoughtful questions. I actually
hadn't really kind of delved into that part of the
process yet this week, and I really appreciate you always
kind of digging deep and it's very refreshing. You are
wonderful and I appreciate appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I have I have one more question.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's it's about the summer.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I turned pretty? Okay, so are you so your music
is all over it? I know the question, and it's
you know, we just it's the ultimate debate. Are you
team Conrad or are you team Jeremiah?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm team Summer. I turned pretty because this show has
this show. When I tell you that this show has
completely like used my music in the most thoughtful, beautiful
way and the important moment in Belly's life, I'm like,
I'm like this, I'm just I'm here for whatever is next.
I'm like, I support your choice'es girl. I feel like
(20:45):
my music comes from inside her mind. So I'm like,
I'm really with her no matter what she goes with.
I know that I promised that I thought about this.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well done. We love you, Taylor, take care, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Love you guys, Thank you, Hi, bye bye. Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I was excited for that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
My heart is still pounding.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I have so many questions.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I can't you just can't get to everything, and everything
she says inspires another thought right.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Just when she does.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
When she says I could talk about my wedding for an.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Hour, I was like, well, let's go, let's go. Yeah,
all the music.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, We've got runa mar song down, go for it,
Taylor Swift right there one of two point seven Kiss FM.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The album is out. We're coming back.
Two point seven Kiss FM.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
There it is the track The Fate of Ophelia, and
guess what voice you're going to hear next, the reframer
of the story of the Fate of Ophelia. Taylor Swift,
Good morning, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hi, We're so excited forget about us, We're so much
to cover with you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh okay't wait, we're so excited to have you's.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Been it's been way too long since we've gone to chat.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I know, I know, and we have followed every step.
And a massive congratulations to you directly for everything's just
happening in your professional life and in your personal life
and then the infusion like you live in the intersection
of those two things in a really transparent way.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thank you, Thank you for saying that. It's It's been
the most wonderfully wild, chaotic, joyful, exciting week and I'm
just so happy that this album is out because it's
like this secret that you have. It's like wonderful secret
where you're like, oh my god, I got somebody a
(01:04):
Christmas present or something, and I'm really excited to see
them open it. And it's just been wonderful. I couldn't
have asked for more, And like just thanks for listening
to it. Thanks for just playing that song just then.
By the way, well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We're playing all the songs.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Sissy and I got a chance to see the movie
also over the weekend, and thank.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You for that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You really, yeah, I saw, we saw the whole thing
start to finish, you guys.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh my gosh. I went with all my mom friends,
are our kids, our daughters were dancing in the front
of the theater like it was a party.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're so supportive. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I just saw new box office numbers. Just I know,
I don't want you to say this, I will say
this for you. It is amazing, like a fifty million
plus worldwide tailor just for that least experience over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh my gosh. I just have to thank the fans
for that, because they're they're one hundred percent of the
reason behind that, the fact that they wanted to go
out and experience this music altogether.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And also, music videos, I put so much into them.
So many artists put so much into what they make
in terms of music videos. And I really love the
idea that, you know, maybe we should be debuting these
things in movie theaters. No, you know what honestly see
on a big screen.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I thought, giving, like, we listened to I have the
I got the album on vinyl, so I heard the
songs on vinyl before and I but when you told
us the context before each song, it really made a difference.
I mean, it really framed it in a way that
gave it obviously more meaning, but several layers to it,
(02:35):
which I guess was the intent.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I mean that's yeah, hopefully, Like that's that's amazing.
Because I used to do these things called secret sessions
at my house where I would invite fans to the
house and they would hear a new album that nobody
had heard before, and I would basically explain the context
of the songs to them before they would hear each song.
And so I wanted to sort of kind of infuse
(03:01):
a little bit of that energy into these movie theater
experiences and give the fans an insight into where I
was coming from when I was writing these songs, because like,
that's my favorite part of the process. I cannot tell
you how exciting it is for us when we're in
the studio writing these songs and bouncing ideas off of
each other, and when a lyric really clicks like. It
(03:23):
just is my favorite part of the process. So I
love getting to tell the fans kind of where I
was coming from when I wrote it, but also full
well knowing that it's going to go into their life
and it's going to be whatever they need it to be.
You know, like a good song is like a mirror.
You know, whoever looks into it sees a different thing
reflecting back. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, it's funny when you talked about ruin the friendship
that track and you listen to it and we listened
to it, and you talk about the specificity of something
in high school. I had a conversation after the movie
with a friend of mine about a specific conversation where
the person I was dating in high school she had
a special sandwich that she liked.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I got this subway.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It was a blimpy the subway sandwich, like a one
of those things, a big sandwich with onions and oregano.
And I drove to her other school and I was
going to surprise her, and I drove two and a
half hours and when I got there, she was with
another guy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And I think it ruined me forever.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But it like, oh my god, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, but I'm telling you this is my conversation moment
in your life.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
This is the reason that is for me, that would
be my villain origin story.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
This is you have me on cup for mine. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
We're not being dramatic, that's crazy, that's like this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I remember.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The thing is like everything is so heightened when we're
in high school, Like everything is so intense, so heightened,
so catastrophic, so fleeting, and so that's I think that's
oftentimes why I return back to those memories. You know,
every once in a while, I'll go back there, you know,
like on Midnights. I wrote a song called Midnight Rain
(04:59):
on on you know, Folklore wrote a song called August,
like you go back to those kind of times that
you just felt like everything was was was the end
of the world like and uh, I mean because it
was for you back then. And that's valid.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, when you said second period, like think about that class.
I remember second period. Every it's just but that's what's great.
I mean, that's what was fun about listening to it
and having the context. And also you said at the
beginning of the movie that we saw about the album
with the tracks on the album in the order. You
talked about how you were working at this incredible tour,
(05:34):
breaking records right everywhere, and it was so it made
such an impact on you that you were inspired to
write these songs to make this album because of what
you were feeling and seeing while you were really busy
and while you have this relationship with Travis All at
the same time. And I thought that was interesting that
you were doing so much and seemingly, you know, working
(05:56):
and traveling, yet you still had all of that momentum
to come.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Up with more.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I mean, one thing actually ended up fueling the other
because being on the Era's tour was an experience unlike
anything I'd ever gone through in my life, and so
I wanted to capture those like heightened emotions. There was
such a sort of like windfall behind us, like I
(06:25):
just couldn't turn off the creativity, and it was it
was something that I'm always going to be so happy
that we captured in real time. Max, Max Martin and
Shellback and I hadn't worked together. They're unbelievable. They're unbelievable,
and I hadn't. I hadn't worked with them in you know,
seven or eight years since the reputation album, and so
(06:45):
when we got back in the studio, it was almost
like we were kind of drafting off of this creative
energy that was just bouncing off of this tour. And
that was one of the reasons why I wanted to
make it sort of show business themed, and I wanted
to be like pure chaos and like and like kind
of show goals running around, like just the scandal of it,
(07:06):
the fun of it, the excitement of it. Just show
girls inherently are entertainers. They are provocateurs, they are playful,
they're mischievous, they're funny, and so I wanted to encapsulate
that all in one album.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well you did it, then it is out with There's
I don't know how we're gonna get to it. I
have so much to get into. We'll come back. We'll
talk about the proposal. Got to ask you about the
wedding planning, all of it coming up with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
First, were paying a bill of the nine to five
to one.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Next that is new Taylor Swift opal Lite. We now
know after Taylor told us it's man made opal we
heard that context of this song. Taylor Swift is with
us now, opal Lite, actually your fiance Travis's favorite track
off the Life of a show Girl and No Secret
that you are engaged.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, it's not a secret at all. About two weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay, so you got to tight for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I did see Jason in promoting Money and My Football
ask your fiance about the wedding date, and he didn't
give an answer.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So do you have one.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I definitely feel like when I talk about the wedding,
I get so excited that it makes me just want
to Like, it makes you just want to talk about
it for like an hour, but it's just sort of
like I won't stop talking if I start, you know
what I mean. But I'm so happy that you're thank
you for being excited for us, because well I'm I'm
excited for us too.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Were you were you? Were you?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Like you are in a role he is in a
role where you put aside nerves. You just that's what
you can do.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
In this moment? Was were you?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean like that. The thing is like I share
so much of our relationship with the world that likes
the moment that that happened. It's like I'll have it
forever and that will always be mine. There's so much
that you know is shared with with the world when
it comes to the fact that we're both very public
facing people and both of our you know, career paths
(09:13):
involved entertaining people. So we're we're very like, we're very
kind of relaxed about things in a way, but we
also have I got to figure out like ways to
make sure that I do have things that are just
between us, and thankfully we do have a lot of
those things, and that moment in particular is one that's
always just going to be ours.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So and just curiously, do you remember when that happens?
Do you remember everything that sat? Do you really have
to go like replay it in your head?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Oh? I remember everything.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I remember everything I would.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Did you see it coming?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like did you know what was happening?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Like when your nail's done? Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh, I mean they we had done a podcast earlier
that day, so it was everything was fine, do you
know what I mean? Like I had I had like
my hair was fine, my makeup was fine, my nails rear,
like everything was like you know what you would what
you would have on for like I guess me doing
this like video podcast that we did, So that was all.
That was all kind of already in place, which is
(10:11):
kind of might have been part of the bait and
switch and part of the like ruse. Like I do
think he kind of like used the podcast as a
distraction and like a ruth for him to have that
set up made in the backyard. A clever guy's tricksy.
It's just that's the thing, Like when he's on the field,
they're like, we never know where he's going to pop up.
(10:31):
We never know what he's gonna do next, like he's clever.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, Taylor Swift is with us and the fate and
irony of this. I happened to have just been ordained
and married Tanya here on the show and her wedding,
so I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Know who's that's amazing. Yeah, what are the chances?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, he did a really really good good job, Like
really my name in the house.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You give it a good review.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I give it.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I would give it twenty stars out of ten, Like
I you really blew us away and.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
He was great, fantastic, So I want to speak how
close you guys are.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's well online course, and I'm allowed to do other weddings,
so I'm just throwing my name out there as officiated.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I am honored. I am honored that you would that
you would be up for that. That is fantastic. You
guys are amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It would be my honor. Honestly, I'm really into officiating
weddings these days. I'm enjoying myself. Taylor Swift is here.
We're coming back more. Hang on one second, we're on
kiss good morning. I just need to thank you Taylor
Swift with more. Next now, her friend Serena Carpenter is
doing a showcrypt dot com. I've sold out tickets for
you to win at one eight one two Steve and
(11:42):
call me now this.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh my gosh, I've ended the game.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So oh my.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Love you now.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
It's so many ways to love y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Maybe I can break you down.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
It's so many ways to love y'all. Y'all mean like,
oh my god, So when uh I found you finally leave,
make me wanna same?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh uh
oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Oh oh my god, make me under say.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I fell in love with shot.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
That man a scene up over the glass and she
was has a sexy pop pop popping dropping dropping oh
never ever pass a lady.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hit me on the first sight. This was something special.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
This what's just like time of night, honey gout of
who it like power power power honey cats.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Some like wow, oh wow, here you know I'm loving you, loving.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Your side jack check check check check checking you out,
like come.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
She got it up sexisting I had, and I hold
it up and.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Maybe let me.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Love me doe.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
There's so many ways love you. Maybe I can break
you down.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
That's so many ways love you. Got me like, oh
my gosh, I so in love.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I found you, find me and makes me want to
say oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Oh my gosh, you make me real.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Say.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You make me roll?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Say oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Also HARKing money, how all the girls are being a cook.
This one got me just up for one look if
I fell in love.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
This one's something special. This one just like got a life.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
Pot of sight and fell in love on their life
by home by turning look the wonderful fly so fly
to turning like a supermodel My home mind, baby, how
you do that make a groom man?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Cry? Oh baby, you got.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Six weeks of my head.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Job, So honey, let me love your dime.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
There's so many ways and love y'all, baby, break it down.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The summon race love you like oh man, God, so
I found you finally.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Lee.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
You make me want to say oh oh oh oh, oh,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh my god, Ia co oh no God.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Not sure where I am? Why don't two point seven
kiss FM. We are spending some time chatting with Taylor
Swift this morning here. If you just joined us, Uh,
it's so great to talk to you. I know that
you've got luck going on. Taylor's new album, The Life
of a show Girl is out. I'm just this is
me curious something about you and how you look at
(16:05):
your universe. You know, I notice the affection that you
get from fans, the loyalty you get from fans of
all ages all over this planet. And I'm curious to
know how that not ways is like the wrong word,
but like there is a responsibility and you do it
like you you really.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I think you think about all of all of what
that means. Is that right? And how do you look
at it?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That's a really thoughtful and lovely question because it is
something that I think about all the time. I think,
you know, when the conversation of trying to get ownership
of my music. That's been sort of like a conversation
I've been having throughout my entire adult life. So I'm
very well of I'm aware of the idea of a legacy,
(16:53):
right because I've been trying to figure out how to
get ownership over my musical legacy, and you do so
sort of you try to be thoughtful about it. I mean,
it's it's from my perspective, the people who made music
when I was in my formative years of youth and
preteen and teen years and in my twenties, like those
(17:15):
songs really helped sort of like guide my emotionality and
my kind of I don't know, like kind of green
lighting it to be okay for me to feel certain ways.
And the more nuanced those songs were and the more
detailed they were, the more I felt like it was
fine that I was feeling these very like big, detailed, nuanced,
(17:38):
wild feelings, right, And so from where the music comes from,
I'm not only focused on like just trying to be
as specific as possible about how something feels for me,
because I know that helped me when other artists did it,
but also like variety and trying really hard to like,
make a different album this time than I made last time.
(18:01):
The whole last album was focused strictly on poetry, strictly
on poetry, and it was in the title. This one
is focusing strictly on vibes and show and excite, showmanship, excitement, mischief,
and just spectacle pop spectacle, and trying to do both
(18:22):
of those things back to back to the best of
my ability. That's because I take my job very seriously
as a person whose career path is entertaining people. I
really didn't want to do anything that was close to
like what I did last time. And I think that
the more you can vary things up and like show
people sort of like a dexterity of you can make
(18:45):
this and then you can turn around and make this
very different thing. Like that's also part of sort of
an example I'm trying to set in my industry.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's very interesting to hear from inside your minds.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, right, It's very interesting perspective from inside it because
you know, we get to see the product, like we
don't we don't necessarily always always get the detail of
that process. And uh, and I'm just I also want
to say that I make olive oil and so your
bread looks really good. I will send you my fresh
press all of them.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Because you want do you want to do like a
sort of like a farm stand? That sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
My little dream is that set up at a farmer's market.
That's going to be in my retirement. I'm going to
be at the farmers We got like a.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Farm co op.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This is exactly there.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You go.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Thanks so much for calling and Taylor, congratulations on everything.
We appreciate the friendship over the years.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes, thank you so much for everything. You guys are amazing,
and also thank you for such thoughtful questions. I actually
hadn't really kind of delved into that part of the
process yet this week, and I really appreciate you always
kind of digging deep and it's very refreshing. You are
wonderful and I appreciate appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I have I have one more question.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's it's about the summer.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I turned pretty? Okay, so are you so your music
is all over it? I know the question, and it's
you know, we just it's the ultimate debate. Are you
team Conrad or are you team Jeremiah?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm team Summer. I turned pretty because this show has
this show. When I tell you that this show has
completely like used my music in the most thoughtful, beautiful
way and the important moment in Belly's life, I'm like,
I'm like this, I'm just I'm here for whatever is next.
I'm like, I support your choice'es girl. I feel like
(20:45):
my music comes from inside her mind. So I'm like,
I'm really with her no matter what she goes with.
I know that I promised that I thought about this.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well done. We love you, Taylor, take care, Thanks.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Love you guys, Thank you, Hi, bye bye. Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I was excited for that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
My heart is still pounding.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I have so many questions.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I can't you just can't get to everything, and everything
she says inspires another thought right.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Just when she does.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
When she says I could talk about my wedding for an.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Hour, I was like, well, let's go, let's go. Yeah,
all the music.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, We've got runa mar song down, go for it,
Taylor Swift right there one of two point seven Kiss FM.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The album is out. We're coming back.
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