April 22, 2023 • 14 mins
OUTWEIGH: Amy’s guest for the next 3 weeks is Crystal Lunenschloss (MS, RDN, LDN, CEDRD). Crystal became a Certified Eating Disorder Registered Dietitian to help people reconnect and heal their relationship with food and their bodies. In this episode, Crystal helps us understand how body image is more about our brains than what we look like and she gives us a few things we can do to immediately combat negative body image thoughts, so our brain can rewire to a more neutral/positive state! They also talk about how eating disorder behaviors are just as common in men as they are in women.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't let my body outwa outwait everything that I'm made,
don't won't spend my life trying to change. I'm learning
love who I am. I I'm strong, I'm bilfree, I
know every part of me is beautiful and then will
always out way if you feeling but your hands and
(00:25):
there she'll have love to the have there. Say go
day Anita, did you and die out Way?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Happy Saturday, Outway fam.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I am sitting across from Crystal Luninchlass, which she is
a friend of Kat Defautas, who is the host of
You Need Therapy, and she's joined me on four Things
That Maybe Round and she's been on the Outway podcast
as well. And Crystal, you're I would say, y'all are
basically like.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Colleagues, colleagues ish in the same field, BFFs, oh colleagues
and baffs.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So why don't you share with us too or your background,
your credentials and what you do.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, well thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I am a registered dietitian going on over twelve years
now in the field, specifically working in addiction recovery, eating
disorder treatment and sports nutrition and kind of everything in between.
My real passion is working with pretty acute eating disorder
treatment and complex cases. And so I became a certified
(01:26):
Eating disorder registered dietitian to be able to really elevate
my expertise in that. And then I also work with
body image and really, I mean what we're talking about
today with the brain and really interested and the complexities
of how the disease process works. And so I try
to practice that in my private practice. I have a
group practice where we can do all the fun healing
(01:49):
things that way.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Which is yeah, Horizon Nutrition Counseling if you happen to
be here in Nashville. If not, she has a website
Horizon Nutrition Counseling dot com. And yeah, like you mentioned
the brain and our bodies, Well, we're going to break
down today how body image is more about your brain
than what you look like.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So break down what that means.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Great, So, body image is a perception, So it's not
necessarily based on factual information all the time. It's based
on your perception and a collective experience of your thoughts
and feelings and how you feel in your body versus
what we may physically see when we look down at
our bodies. And so that's where it really is a
(02:32):
game of how our brain processes that information and what
lens it gets processed through. So if the lens is
somewhat disordered, then the collective way our brain puts that
picture together is going to be slightly distorted or severely
distorted in more dysmorphic types. So it really becomes a
(02:54):
game of genetics. The way our eating habits are our
brain slightly malnourished in certain ways, if it's had a
brain injury, if we've used substances. There's so many things
that impact the way our brain processes information, and so
from my point of view, it really does become more
of the.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Behavioral part of how we.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Think about our bodies.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It makes me think of BDDES body.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Dysmorphic disorder, and I've been doing a lot of work
on my brain lately. Actually, before we set down and record,
I was like, Hey, right after this, I have a
neuro feedback appointment and I can't be late because I
like to take advantage of every minute. I mean, I
can be late, but that we'll seep into my brain
therapy time. And I have realized I'm two years into recovery.
(03:39):
You don't know a lot of my backstory. Some listeners do,
but maybe this is your first day listening to Outweigh.
But I am here as just the person that wants
to come alongside others that are in the thick of it,
or maybe they're also in recovery, and just I want
you to know you're not alone. And I have experts
come on that know the facts and like why we
are the way we are, and that's what Crystal doing
(04:00):
here today. So I'm not claiming to be an expert
by any means, but I've seen in my own self
is as my brain has gotten healthier, it's easier for
me to navigate some of this stuff because I'm not
so for lack of a better term, I'm not so
all up in my head about it. It's like I'm
able to kind of, you know, take more of a
straight line to where I need to go instead of
(04:21):
zigzagging all over the place and getting caught up in
loops and this and that. It's like things are just
more clear to me. But that's as I've had the
luxury and the privilege to do something to take care
of my brain, like therapy and neurofeedback and taking the
time for myself and I know, not everybody has access
to those things, so I do recognize that. But it
(04:41):
is interesting to me that as I've really been focusing
on my brain the last you know, I would say,
year full year, I'm starting to see the benefits. And
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yes, it is crazy when you actually experience brain change
and see those neural paths ways actually changing. I imagine
it as like a very thick brush where like you
couldn't just walk into the to the forest, you know,
and we have to blaze this trail of new neural
pathways that takes so much work and effort to actually
(05:15):
turn into more of a dirt road and then more
of like a paved road with like lighting. And it's
not you know, it really takes so much practice and
effort in different types of therapies to really change the
brain to perceive our body in.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
A true and genuine way, which I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Is there like a number ish where you have to
do something a certain amount of times? Because when I
was in recovery. Have you heard of the book Brain
over Binge? I have, Okay, so I read that early on.
That was something that clicked with me in the start.
It wasn't the only component to my recovery at all.
But it was something you know, she's very much focusing
(05:52):
on the brain and me training myself and building those
new neural pathways to be like every time I was
going to go to the pantry, it's like I stopped
and I turned around, but I had to go and
stop and turn around hundreds and hundreds. I don't even
know how many times I had to do it to
build the new neuropathways.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I can't remember if she ever gave a number.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, is there What I think in general, it's, you know,
to break a habit quote unquote, it's about twenty one times. Okay,
Well for me, I was last Well, the difference between
a habit and a ritual is that ritual it's going
to take a lot more because it's not just the
behavior you're changing, you're changing the emotional connection to it.
And that's a whole different ballgames than just like I'm
going to stop, you know, like biting my fingernail, you know,
(06:32):
or something like that. It takes more intention and more.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Skill to do it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, And so this is something I think that is
commonly talked about amongst women, but men suffer from this
just the same.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't even know suffers the right word, but.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, they have the same experiences men. It's it's unfortunate
because I think it's more of a stereotype that men
don't have issues, and so no one asks them the question,
and many times they're not very forthcoming with the information
and seeking help themselves. So if the assumption is that
men don't have issues, their therapists may not be asking,
(07:09):
their doctors might not be asking, and so they may
be doing a lot of things that you know, that
they know to do to change their body image that's
not very healthy. It presents a little bit different than
they would women because it's kind of normalized for women
to speak negatively about our bodies to other women, but
men they kind of like joke about it and grab
(07:30):
things and oh, you know, they're very like aggressive with
it sometimes and they're just meant to kind of shake
it off. So I've seen it present in so many
ways with men where they end up maybe using drugs
or alcohol to mask their body image issues. I've seen
bodybuilders they kind of say, like, my muscles are kind
of my way of like being scary and intimidating, so
(07:52):
people leave me alone. It presents just differently for men sometimes,
but really they struggle with the same thing, but no
one asks them about it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, said they joke about it and made me think
of yes, like I know men that after conversations have
come out and said, I mean, yeah, I kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't when I look in the mirror, this is
not what I see. This is what I see.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And it is crazy because we look at other people
and we're like, that's not what I'm noticing about you
at all. Like you said, it's a lot of it
is in our head. And I remember feeling so much
shame about my eating disorder, and I just feel for
men too. I don't know if there's more shame, if
that's possible, because like women, we can I felt shame
and I didn't want to talk about it. But then again,
(08:32):
like you said, it's like more acceptable for women to
have concerns, so the shame almost seems extra for men.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Absolutely, it absolutely is, and they certainly don't want to
talk to other men about it because you know what,
if the peer is really just more judgmental, like what
why are you asking about that? I don't want to
talk about that. Whereas women were like tell me everything
you like, tell me about your things, and so it's
a little bit different. But I used to run men
(08:59):
male by the image groups. It was men only, and
it was so amazing to see the healing that comes
out of that when you put a group of men
together who are actually open to discussing their issues and
just seeing that, like, I'm not alone. This stereotype needs
to change, and it's only going to change with me,
with us and within the you know, like as we
(09:21):
build out of our community and how we you know,
they start kind of getting empowered to change too. But
it's definitely the same and it's something that we need
to talk about more well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So when it comes to either men, women, young or older,
there's there's I mean, eating disorders and disorder behaviors affects
anyone and everyone or can So what little tools do
you have maybe to share just a few with us
that we can keep in our back pocket when we're
right now trying to process Okay, wait, this is more
(09:52):
my brain, this body image thing, it's all in my head.
So what are some things that we can be doing
to start building those neuropathways and undoing it.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, So there's a type of therapy called cognitive behavioral therapy,
and it really is what we know changes the brain
the most. That and like exposure therapy, so the CBT
has a set of skills that really just helps with
stopping thoughts. So as you notice kind of ruminating or
(10:21):
cyclical thoughts that kind of rabbit trail into just a
lot of bullying and a negativity. That's the thought where
if you can stop and think about literally anything else.
So think of it as like, even though your brain's
not a muscle, but think of it as like if
I'm trying to strengthen my bicep, I'm gonna exercise my bicep,
(10:42):
and if I exercise my brain to think mostly negative things,
that's what it's automatically going to do. So if we
can stop those negative thoughts in its tracks, it's not
strengthening those pathways. And then if we can follow it
up with a neutral thought or even maybe a positive thought,
that's the foundation of laying down those pathways.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It makes me think of when we're a kid and
we're learning fire drills and it's like.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Stop is the first thing, like stop dropping roll, But
it's like, okay, first thing we have to do is.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Just stop, But you first have to recognize you even
having the thoughts, So you have to be very mindful of, Wow,
I just zoned out with this negative thought for a
really long time. I need to first acknowledge that I'm
having that thought, because the more you can catch it sooner,
the more you can redirect it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And I'm so glad you said that, because, yeah, how
can you stop something that I don't even realize is happening.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Especially when it consumes your your headspace so much, you
just it's just kind of normal, Like what do you mean,
Like I as soon as I see my leg, like
I say, my brain just immediately goes there. And so
you know that you already know that about yourself. So
have a set of just kind of thoughts and phrases
that you can just say to stop that thought. And
(11:57):
then also there you know, kind of being body avoidant
creates a fear of a known you know, And so
I would also encourage just knowing your body is really
important because if we're wearing baggy things, if we're avoiding
looking at ourselves in the mirror, of course we're going
to create an image in our mind that's distorted because
(12:18):
we're only knowing what our body shape is based on
how negative our thoughts are. I'm not asking you know,
like love your body and look at all the things
right now, but it's really about if you notice you're
completely body avoidant, that is going to create this fear
and wire your nervous system to be scared of it,
and that also is gonna cause a lot of harm
(12:39):
long term.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Okay, So first just to recap, we need to recognize
and acknowledge what's happening. Then secondly we need to stop
if once we notice the negativity, just put a stop
to it and replace it with something neutral or positive.
Now instead of just saying positive, why did you say neutral?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Because some people just can't they're not ready for positive yet. Okay,
So or they'll just say positive something and just be like,
I don't believe that anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well, because yeah, for affirmations, you have to truly believe
it for it to start.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Sometimes you don't necessarily have to truly believe it on
the front end.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, the more you say it, you eventually do.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But some people are just not even they cannot it
actually makes it can be more harmful. So sometimes just
neutral or just challenging the you know, if it's everyone
stares at me when.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I go to the beach, well do they really?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You know, like, look around, is everyone you know looking
at you when you step on the beach? Recognize the
reality that it's not okay?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And then the last one knowing your body, yes, and
don't be what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
A body avoidance. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
So thank you for sharing those little those little things.
Those are three things right there that you can keep
in your back pocket if you notice, you know, body
image type thoughts popping into your head. And just again
know that you're not alone, whether you're male or female.
And I know, just me being a woman, I spend
a lot of time saying, oh, well, you know, I
speak to the women, and then I'll get a note
(14:04):
from a man and I'm just reminded, oh, yes, men
are going through this too, and again I've even witnessed it.
So thank you for coming on and sharing that. And
if there's any men listening and you have thoughts or
emails something you want to share, or you would like
to share some of your story, would love to hear
from you. Hello at outweighpodcast dot com is where you
(14:24):
can hit us up and then Crystal your website one
more time.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Horizon Nutrition Counseling dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
All right, se y'all next Saturday. Bye,
I won't let my body outwa outwait everything that I'm made,
don't won't spend my life trying to change. I'm learning
love who I am. I I'm strong, I'm bilfree, I
know every part of me is beautiful and then will
always out way if you feeling but your hands and
(00:25):
there she'll have love to the have there. Say go
day Anita, did you and die out Way?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Happy Saturday, Outway fam.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I am sitting across from Crystal Luninchlass, which she is
a friend of Kat Defautas, who is the host of
You Need Therapy, and she's joined me on four Things
That Maybe Round and she's been on the Outway podcast
as well. And Crystal, you're I would say, y'all are
basically like.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Colleagues, colleagues ish in the same field, BFFs, oh colleagues
and baffs.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So why don't you share with us too or your background,
your credentials and what you do.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, well thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I am a registered dietitian going on over twelve years
now in the field, specifically working in addiction recovery, eating
disorder treatment and sports nutrition and kind of everything in between.
My real passion is working with pretty acute eating disorder
treatment and complex cases. And so I became a certified
(01:26):
Eating disorder registered dietitian to be able to really elevate
my expertise in that. And then I also work with
body image and really, I mean what we're talking about
today with the brain and really interested and the complexities
of how the disease process works. And so I try
to practice that in my private practice. I have a
group practice where we can do all the fun healing
(01:49):
things that way.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Which is yeah, Horizon Nutrition Counseling if you happen to
be here in Nashville. If not, she has a website
Horizon Nutrition Counseling dot com. And yeah, like you mentioned
the brain and our bodies, Well, we're going to break
down today how body image is more about your brain
than what you look like.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So break down what that means.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Great, So, body image is a perception, So it's not
necessarily based on factual information all the time. It's based
on your perception and a collective experience of your thoughts
and feelings and how you feel in your body versus
what we may physically see when we look down at
our bodies. And so that's where it really is a
(02:32):
game of how our brain processes that information and what
lens it gets processed through. So if the lens is
somewhat disordered, then the collective way our brain puts that
picture together is going to be slightly distorted or severely
distorted in more dysmorphic types. So it really becomes a
(02:54):
game of genetics. The way our eating habits are our
brain slightly malnourished in certain ways, if it's had a
brain injury, if we've used substances. There's so many things
that impact the way our brain processes information, and so
from my point of view, it really does become more
of the.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Behavioral part of how we.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Think about our bodies.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It makes me think of BDDES body.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Dysmorphic disorder, and I've been doing a lot of work
on my brain lately. Actually, before we set down and record,
I was like, Hey, right after this, I have a
neuro feedback appointment and I can't be late because I
like to take advantage of every minute. I mean, I
can be late, but that we'll seep into my brain
therapy time. And I have realized I'm two years into recovery.
(03:39):
You don't know a lot of my backstory. Some listeners do,
but maybe this is your first day listening to Outweigh.
But I am here as just the person that wants
to come alongside others that are in the thick of it,
or maybe they're also in recovery, and just I want
you to know you're not alone. And I have experts
come on that know the facts and like why we
are the way we are, and that's what Crystal doing
(04:00):
here today. So I'm not claiming to be an expert
by any means, but I've seen in my own self
is as my brain has gotten healthier, it's easier for
me to navigate some of this stuff because I'm not
so for lack of a better term, I'm not so
all up in my head about it. It's like I'm
able to kind of, you know, take more of a
straight line to where I need to go instead of
(04:21):
zigzagging all over the place and getting caught up in
loops and this and that. It's like things are just
more clear to me. But that's as I've had the
luxury and the privilege to do something to take care
of my brain, like therapy and neurofeedback and taking the
time for myself and I know, not everybody has access
to those things, so I do recognize that. But it
(04:41):
is interesting to me that as I've really been focusing
on my brain the last you know, I would say,
year full year, I'm starting to see the benefits. And
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yes, it is crazy when you actually experience brain change
and see those neural paths ways actually changing. I imagine
it as like a very thick brush where like you
couldn't just walk into the to the forest, you know,
and we have to blaze this trail of new neural
pathways that takes so much work and effort to actually
(05:15):
turn into more of a dirt road and then more
of like a paved road with like lighting. And it's
not you know, it really takes so much practice and
effort in different types of therapies to really change the
brain to perceive our body in.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
A true and genuine way, which I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Is there like a number ish where you have to
do something a certain amount of times? Because when I
was in recovery. Have you heard of the book Brain
over Binge? I have, Okay, so I read that early on.
That was something that clicked with me in the start.
It wasn't the only component to my recovery at all.
But it was something you know, she's very much focusing
(05:52):
on the brain and me training myself and building those
new neural pathways to be like every time I was
going to go to the pantry, it's like I stopped
and I turned around, but I had to go and
stop and turn around hundreds and hundreds. I don't even
know how many times I had to do it to
build the new neuropathways.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I can't remember if she ever gave a number.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, is there What I think in general, it's, you know,
to break a habit quote unquote, it's about twenty one times. Okay,
Well for me, I was last Well, the difference between
a habit and a ritual is that ritual it's going
to take a lot more because it's not just the
behavior you're changing, you're changing the emotional connection to it.
And that's a whole different ballgames than just like I'm
going to stop, you know, like biting my fingernail, you know,
(06:32):
or something like that. It takes more intention and more.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Skill to do it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, And so this is something I think that is
commonly talked about amongst women, but men suffer from this
just the same.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't even know suffers the right word, but.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, they have the same experiences men. It's it's unfortunate
because I think it's more of a stereotype that men
don't have issues, and so no one asks them the question,
and many times they're not very forthcoming with the information
and seeking help themselves. So if the assumption is that
men don't have issues, their therapists may not be asking,
(07:09):
their doctors might not be asking, and so they may
be doing a lot of things that you know, that
they know to do to change their body image that's
not very healthy. It presents a little bit different than
they would women because it's kind of normalized for women
to speak negatively about our bodies to other women, but
men they kind of like joke about it and grab
(07:30):
things and oh, you know, they're very like aggressive with
it sometimes and they're just meant to kind of shake
it off. So I've seen it present in so many
ways with men where they end up maybe using drugs
or alcohol to mask their body image issues. I've seen
bodybuilders they kind of say, like, my muscles are kind
of my way of like being scary and intimidating, so
(07:52):
people leave me alone. It presents just differently for men sometimes,
but really they struggle with the same thing, but no
one asks them about it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, said they joke about it and made me think
of yes, like I know men that after conversations have
come out and said, I mean, yeah, I kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't when I look in the mirror, this is
not what I see. This is what I see.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And it is crazy because we look at other people
and we're like, that's not what I'm noticing about you
at all. Like you said, it's a lot of it
is in our head. And I remember feeling so much
shame about my eating disorder, and I just feel for
men too. I don't know if there's more shame, if
that's possible, because like women, we can I felt shame
and I didn't want to talk about it. But then again,
(08:32):
like you said, it's like more acceptable for women to
have concerns, so the shame almost seems extra for men.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Absolutely, it absolutely is, and they certainly don't want to
talk to other men about it because you know what,
if the peer is really just more judgmental, like what
why are you asking about that? I don't want to
talk about that. Whereas women were like tell me everything
you like, tell me about your things, and so it's
a little bit different. But I used to run men
(08:59):
male by the image groups. It was men only, and
it was so amazing to see the healing that comes
out of that when you put a group of men
together who are actually open to discussing their issues and
just seeing that, like, I'm not alone. This stereotype needs
to change, and it's only going to change with me,
with us and within the you know, like as we
(09:21):
build out of our community and how we you know,
they start kind of getting empowered to change too. But
it's definitely the same and it's something that we need
to talk about more well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So when it comes to either men, women, young or older,
there's there's I mean, eating disorders and disorder behaviors affects
anyone and everyone or can So what little tools do
you have maybe to share just a few with us
that we can keep in our back pocket when we're
right now trying to process Okay, wait, this is more
(09:52):
my brain, this body image thing, it's all in my head.
So what are some things that we can be doing
to start building those neuropathways and undoing it.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, So there's a type of therapy called cognitive behavioral therapy,
and it really is what we know changes the brain
the most. That and like exposure therapy, so the CBT
has a set of skills that really just helps with
stopping thoughts. So as you notice kind of ruminating or
(10:21):
cyclical thoughts that kind of rabbit trail into just a
lot of bullying and a negativity. That's the thought where
if you can stop and think about literally anything else.
So think of it as like, even though your brain's
not a muscle, but think of it as like if
I'm trying to strengthen my bicep, I'm gonna exercise my bicep,
(10:42):
and if I exercise my brain to think mostly negative things,
that's what it's automatically going to do. So if we
can stop those negative thoughts in its tracks, it's not
strengthening those pathways. And then if we can follow it
up with a neutral thought or even maybe a positive thought,
that's the foundation of laying down those pathways.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It makes me think of when we're a kid and
we're learning fire drills and it's like.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Stop is the first thing, like stop dropping roll, But
it's like, okay, first thing we have to do is.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Just stop, But you first have to recognize you even
having the thoughts, So you have to be very mindful of, Wow,
I just zoned out with this negative thought for a
really long time. I need to first acknowledge that I'm
having that thought, because the more you can catch it sooner,
the more you can redirect it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And I'm so glad you said that, because, yeah, how
can you stop something that I don't even realize is happening.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Especially when it consumes your your headspace so much, you
just it's just kind of normal, Like what do you mean,
Like I as soon as I see my leg, like
I say, my brain just immediately goes there. And so
you know that you already know that about yourself. So
have a set of just kind of thoughts and phrases
that you can just say to stop that thought. And
(11:57):
then also there you know, kind of being body avoidant
creates a fear of a known you know, And so
I would also encourage just knowing your body is really
important because if we're wearing baggy things, if we're avoiding
looking at ourselves in the mirror, of course we're going
to create an image in our mind that's distorted because
(12:18):
we're only knowing what our body shape is based on
how negative our thoughts are. I'm not asking you know,
like love your body and look at all the things
right now, but it's really about if you notice you're
completely body avoidant, that is going to create this fear
and wire your nervous system to be scared of it,
and that also is gonna cause a lot of harm
(12:39):
long term.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Okay, So first just to recap, we need to recognize
and acknowledge what's happening. Then secondly we need to stop
if once we notice the negativity, just put a stop
to it and replace it with something neutral or positive.
Now instead of just saying positive, why did you say neutral?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Because some people just can't they're not ready for positive yet. Okay,
So or they'll just say positive something and just be like,
I don't believe that anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Well, because yeah, for affirmations, you have to truly believe
it for it to start.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Sometimes you don't necessarily have to truly believe it on
the front end.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, the more you say it, you eventually do.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But some people are just not even they cannot it
actually makes it can be more harmful. So sometimes just
neutral or just challenging the you know, if it's everyone
stares at me when.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I go to the beach, well do they really?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You know, like, look around, is everyone you know looking
at you when you step on the beach? Recognize the
reality that it's not okay?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And then the last one knowing your body, yes, and
don't be what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
A body avoidance. Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
So thank you for sharing those little those little things.
Those are three things right there that you can keep
in your back pocket if you notice, you know, body
image type thoughts popping into your head. And just again
know that you're not alone, whether you're male or female.
And I know, just me being a woman, I spend
a lot of time saying, oh, well, you know, I
speak to the women, and then I'll get a note
(14:04):
from a man and I'm just reminded, oh, yes, men
are going through this too, and again I've even witnessed it.
So thank you for coming on and sharing that. And
if there's any men listening and you have thoughts or
emails something you want to share, or you would like
to share some of your story, would love to hear
from you. Hello at outweighpodcast dot com is where you
(14:24):
can hit us up and then Crystal your website one
more time.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Horizon Nutrition Counseling dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
All right, se y'all next Saturday. Bye,
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