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November 1, 2022 26 min

Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!! Today’s quote is from @YouNeedTherapyPodcast: "It's not hard to be who you are, what's hard is trying to stop being who you think others want you to be." Kat then shares her thoughts on “magical thinking” and how much energy we put into who we “really are as a person” when maybe we just need to strip it down to the facts of who we are. Email topics from Brian, Kent, and Mireya lead to chats about: doing something for yourself instead of others (which might include starting over in life if need be), learning new things, trying is cool, making tough decisions, thoughtful gift idea from a listener’s husband, Amy’s favorite high waisted jeans, the definition of fun, doing something outside of your lane/comfort zone, and more!

Thank you licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta + @YouNeedTherapyPodcast.

Best places to find more about Amy: RadioAmy.com + @RadioAmy

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