May 25, 2023 • 56 mins
Amy's friend, Chase, joins her for this talk because this same "one thing" has changed his life for the better too! This one thing = stillness!! What is stillness? Well, achieving stillness looks different for everyone, but it requires the mind, body, and spirit to slow down!! All three parts of us have to slow down so much that we quiet our minds enough to receive intuitive guidance, hear from God, and get into the flow.
Amy's preferred methods to get still are mediation, prayer, journaling and this mantra from Gabby Bernstein: "Stillness is my key to success." This mantra/belief has been a game changer for Amy. She thinks more clearly, surrenders with ease, feels more peace, sees the bigger picture, is more fulfilled, and the list goes on!!!
In a nutshell, this episode is simply Amy and Chase having an open and honest conversation about stillness, aligning with God, faith, love, fear and more. Hope you enjoy it!!
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Amy Brown // @RadioAmy // RadioAmy.com
GUEST:
Chase Locke // @ChaseLocke_ // OneCountry.com
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cas up.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Little food for you.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So it's pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
It's pretty beautiful, beautiful for a little more exciting, said he.
You're kicking with fur with Amy Brown.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Happy Thursday, Four Things, Amy here and Chase Chase Locke.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Is is back. It's been a minute. I've missed. I've
missed the crew. What what do you what do you
call them? Are they four Fingers or the Brownies? Or
is there like a name for.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
The group, Walker Hayes, I think nicknamed them the Brownie
the Brownies.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I think I think that's good. Maybe that's where
I heard that. So what Brownie?
Speaker 6 (01:00):
We'll go with that.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
If you're new to the podcast, like in the last
I mean, when's the last time you're on, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Been a minute I left Nashville.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I mean, but back in the early days of this podcast,
you were on quite a bit. In fact, Kat is
now the co host of The Fifth Thing, and she
has been for a long time. But you used to
be a regular on The Fifth Thing and you would
read the emails. That was back when it was mostly
Q and A. And you would read the emails and
then I would give an answer.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I'm pretty good at moderating Amy. That's kind of a
pastime of mine.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You have done that, I've that on stage before, and
Chase and are going to talk about stillness, and I'm
really excited to talk about this, well, just with a
friend and having a conversation and other people joining in
with us.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
We had someone email us.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
We read it on the Fifth Thing this week about
how she ran a marathon and she listened to Kat
and I in the pot four Things podcast and whatnot
like for training and then yes, and I thought, wow,
listening to someone, But she said, it just feels like
I'm having to talk with my friends. And I thought
it was a very special note to receive because that's
(02:08):
exactly the vibe that we want to have. And so
Chase and I are sitting here and we're going to
talk about stillness, just as.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
We would if we weren't even recording this.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
But hopefully you'll feel like you're just sitting with us.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
And I have an empty couch in.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Here that we're pretending that you're sitting on, so we're
looking over at you right now. You're a part of
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
So Chase and I were on the phone earlier today
and just talking about my meditation for this week, and
I get most of my meditations from Gabby Bernstein. I
find other ones on YouTube, but I kind of go
to whatever she's curated for the week, And this one
was from a few weeks ago, but I keep going
back to it, like the one this week.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
I don't even know what it's about.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I haven't even looked at it yet, because I keep
going back to this one, which I think is myself
telling myself, Yeah, my body, my brain, my tell me, Okay,
you need more of this. And the affirmation for this
meditation is stillness is the key to my success. And
I am most still when I'm in my prayer time,
(03:11):
my meditation time, my journaling time, and the meditation is
probably about ten minutes for this one, and I've done
it every morning this week.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Proud of myself. Try to celebrate the wins.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Although I was listening to something the other day that said,
don't beat yourself up for the days that you miss meditation,
because when you're in the flow, or you miss your
quiet time or whatever it looks like for you, because
then if you beat yourself up about it, you're out
of the flow. Yeah, my sister's calling, Should I just
answer it?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
On speaker. Yes, okay, hold please, hold please, We'll just
keep this rolling. Hey, Christy, you're on speakerphone.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I have Chase in the room and we're recording a podcast,
So don't say anything too crazy because you're on the air.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What up?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
So glad you told me that? Why what were you
going to say?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm not going to good now? Why did you call Hey,
we're all friends here Christy later when you're not on air?
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Why did Okay, her voice.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Is she's so giggly. Likely there's something that.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Your voice got really high. What's going on on a
one to ten?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Is it serious? No, do not get excited.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Nothing that interesting.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
It was more a follow up question from our earlier conversation. Okay,
I was just to follow up.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I needed to say.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Okay, I will say you really.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Want to follow up right now?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
On air?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Everything Christy says is interesting to me, big fan.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yeah, Chase, your session, Chase talking about we're talking about stillness?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, gonna get still.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Have you practiced stillness this week?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yes, about three days ago.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I did.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Med. I think this is good because I think it
really identifies the listener.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
No, that's pretty still for bid And I wanted to
do it every morning, but so far it happened so failing.
I also wanted to do it at night before bed.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I had very high hopes.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
There's the evening and the morning, and it's supposed to
change your life and calm your soul.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Okay, Well, that you set me up for exactly where
I was before you called, which was that if you
beat yourself up for not meditating as you thought. Like
when I'm doing the meditation in a row, like several
days in a row, I start to get in the flow
and I'm like, okay, and then if you have to
miss a day or two or three or four, and
then you start beating yourself up, You've immediately taken yourself
(05:43):
out of the flow. Like part of being in the
flow is that you're also okay if you miss a
few days. But I too have heard that if you
do a morning and a night, it is a game changer.
So I've been trying to fall asleep to a nighttime meditation.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I don't know who this guy.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Is, but he has over two million followers on YouTube,
and so I just pull up the YouTube and he's like,
good evening. My name is Stevens. Joseph Stevens.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
I don't know. I'll have to look it up.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, but he's like you're walking in a forest and
then you see animal.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
He like walks you through this whole thing.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
But it's supposed to like while you sleep, take your
subconscious into being open to miracles.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And I'm like, I need that.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I'm telling you, I've been impressed with the things you've
been finding on YouTube, So I'm gonna have to check
that out.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Okay, Curzy, it's full of golden treasure, it is.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I believe that, and a bunch of crap.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
I think you found it. Keep doing it, Okay, I'll
call you back. I wonder what she was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I don't know. That was probably the most animated I've
heard her as far as like when she kind of
seemed like she was up to something.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, fall you don't beat yourself up if you can't
do it, because that in itself is you not being
in the flow. So like when I was doing my
meditation this morning, I started to receive information because I
was still but it was good information for me and
how I was going to set up my day. It
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was offering me creative ideas and solutions to some stuff
I was trying to work through, and I thought, wow,
if I had not taken the time this morning, and
I just went into my go go, go, go, go hustle,
got to get to work, and I didn't wake up
early enough to get this stuff in because then even
afterwards I journaled and more stuff flowed out of me
because I felt like I was able to listen.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Now, whether that's you know, God.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Talking to me, me talking to me, I don't really
know for sure, Yeah, but I'm able to receive the information.
And so that is where the key to my success
comes in, because I'm able to listen, whereas when your
go go go, you can't, yeah, listen, and then then
you're of no use to anybody. Like I saw this
(08:04):
one article saying listen, this is Stillness is the key
to all of this stuff, thinking clearly, seeing the whole chessboard,
making tough decisions, managing emotions, identifying the right goals, handling
high pressure situations, maintaining relationships, building good habits, being productive,
(08:25):
physical excellence, whatever that what is that, feeling fulfilled, capturing
moments of laughter and joy. Stillness is the key to
just about everything. To be a better parent, a better artist,
a better investor, a better athlete, a better scientist, a
better human being to unlocking all the weird capable of
in this life. To achieve stillness, we need to focus
(08:47):
on three domains. The domain of the mind, the domain
of the spirit, and the domain.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Of the body.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Stillness lies naturally within us, but accessing it is not easy,
and so that's where the commitment comes in. And yeah,
mind body spirit, like I can't I can't tell you
how many therapists in the last three years have all thankfully, thankfully,
I've I've had really good ones. But whether it was
therapists for kids or myself or me and Ben, whatever,
(09:15):
every single one of them talked about the importance of
mind body spirit that they are so I mean, And
of course growing up as a Christian, like I knew that,
but sometimes even just it could get a little woo
woo because I grew up very conservative Christian. Yeah, and
so some of that you know, yogi type stuff, even
the word meditations the same. But no, I feel like
(09:37):
your spiritual beings, this is how we were designed and
this is the place that takes us to the highest potential.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
And there's that, you know, the whole Holy spirit thing
we talk about in church.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Too, right, Yeah, And no matter you know what your
faith is or your walk or whatever you believe, if
you're listening to this, like, we're very here for all.
But I'm just speaking from my per personal experience. I
think I spent years running from that. Even I did
a lot of yoga classes back in the day, and
I was so uncomfortable if they would even have a
(10:11):
hint towards this type of dingo, and I would be like, oh,
Dear Lord, forgive me for coming to this yoga class
or whatever. And now I would crave a class like that,
and I could see how it could be very beneficial
and fruitful for me.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, I felt that with meditation. The first time meditation
was kind of coming into the conversation, it freaked me
out because I was like, well, that's not you know,
I pray like I don't meditate, And I downloaded the
headspace app and kind of going back to what Chrissy
said and you alluded to, like sometimes when you hear meditation,
I think there's like you have in your head if
you're doing it right, like there's a candle and everything's
(10:48):
quiet and it's peaceful and perfect And honestly, the first
time I started using the Headspace app was in the
subway when I was working in New York. I put
in my headphones because I'd ride the train, and it
was like it would allow me to focus on my breath,
which is that whole how I perceived mind, body spirit
like kind of clearing my headspace to allow for really
(11:10):
what I identify, you know, as the Holy Spirit in
my faith, like meditation kind of tease me up for
that stillness and that time.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Of prayer, and then you're able to receive totally.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But it's like that that meditation and that discipline whatever
you call it, gets you, or at least for me,
to that place of stillness, Like I realized in my
prayer journey as I became an adult, Like I'm not
sitting here saying like I'm great at praying, but I
was pretty good at like saying my prayers, but I was,
like I realized, I'm terrible at listening. But in order
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to listen, like I believe God's always talking to us,
and in order for me to hear that or receive that,
I got to get still, Like I've got to create
space to hear that, right.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yes, and so part of what's really worked for me.
And I just heard you say so I'm not trying
to annoying changing your your vocabulary, but this has been
very helpful to me in my brain. And I still
don't have it totally down. But like you said, I
would you say I'm a terrible listener?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Okay, So you know what I'm want to say. This
has been very helpful to me in my brain, and
I still don't have it totally down, but like you said,
(12:32):
I would you say.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I'm a terrible listener?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Okay, so you know what I'm want to say.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I would like to hear you say I am working
on being a better listener.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I am working on being a better listener. Good. Yeah,
Now we had this conversation. Now honestly since we have,
I've been working on that and I it was kind
of one of those things where like, oh, Amy's telling
me I need to like speak more positively about myself.
But it's actually been it's been healthy, especially like I've
tried to journal some of that just so I could
see it on paper. That's better for me in terms
(13:07):
of receiving.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Well, you also should celebrate, you know, you said not
to brag, but I'm good. I'm good at praying, and
Leanne Ellington would say, part of my homework from her
is to brag on myself a little bit like tell myself.
But it helps you recognize where you're good and celebrate that.
(13:29):
And that's totally okay. And I think some are like, oh,
I don't want to really say that. It's okay to
be confident and say, yeah, I celebrate the fact that
I am good at praying. Thank you Lord for giving
me the ability to know how to pray. And then
also that I have a chance to learn how to
be a better listener. And then if you recognize a
time where you have listened better, celebrate that.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And you've come a long way on that very much.
So I mean really like, and I'm not trying. You
might not want me to call this out, but we
had that conversation that other. Now you've never been like
really hard on yourself. Well, at times you have been.
But I called and I said, how was the festival?
How was Austin? How? And you were like it was great.
You're like, I killed it, but you said in a
(14:12):
way it wasn't cocky, It wasn't, but it was like
you owned it and you knew that you did well.
And what I tell you, I mean, I literally was like,
in the last ten years, this is the first time
I've ever heard you say anything like that honestly, which
which like kind of is like, man, we've always seen
that in you, but now to see I keep joking
like two point zero, but like, as you continue to
(14:34):
work on yourself and just make yourself better for you
and your family, like it's amazing, It's just amazing. Like
I know that sounds so small, but to me, it
was like I literally journaled it with the date because
I was like, I've never heard her well.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I can recognize that, and then I can also celebrate
that I answered that way, and that's probably something I'll
go back in journal is how I answered that with
such confidence, because I do think that a lot of
times I downplay certain things or make myself small.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
And the past several months.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I've really been trying to build those new neural pathways.
And I walked away for I mean, we've been doing
that festival for I mean, we do it in Austin
for the Country Fest and then iHeart Festival in Vegas
for the so we've been doing these things for years
and it's like twice a year that it's a big
like where we get to see a ton of artists,
Like all of our bosses are there. We're getting to
do a lot of different interviews or stuff on camera.
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There's stuff on stage you have to just be on
and you're on the go, and you know, it can
be a lot, and some stuff they're recording live, they're
timing it.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
They're like we need the you know.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
And there's people running around like backstage, like there's a
lot of people in frenzies, Like there's people in like
we're in Austin, but there's people.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
In New York that are producing it.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
It's airing on the radio, and you know they're taping
it for you know, TV broadcasts, different things. So all
that to say, I know that every single thing that
I did, I did.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It exactly how I was supposed to do it.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I didn't mess up once, not a word. I mean,
I'm sure there's something I could have done a little
bit better, but when it comes to like what I
was supposed to do, I did it, and I feel
like I did it well. And our bosses were happy
with everybody, and they expressed that, and so I felt like,
if you asked me how it went, now I can
confidently say, yeah, I killed it.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
But I'm encouraging other people.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I'm reiterating that story so that other people can know,
like if you know you did something well at work,
or if you know you did an awesome parenting move,
or you handled something in your relationship, well it is
totally okay to own it and stand confident in it.
Which speaking of being a parent, my son just walked in, Hey, Bud,
what's up. You can wait a little bit, let's do
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Let's try eight o'clock. I put them on the counter,
sent ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Celebrate that. I'm a good mom, well not the best.
I definitely lost my cool. I got out of the flow.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, but you got into it.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I got out of the flow hard core.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
In fact, it's like something I went to my therapist
about because I was like, I don't even know what happened.
It's like I just snapped, and I hadn't snapped in
a while, so I'm not quite sure what sent me there.
I always like try to go back to the root
of like what happened, But then have you seen me
pulling at my hair. Okay, it's the most I've ever
pulled at my hair. People, if you're listening for the
first time, maybe you don't know, but there's this one
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part of my hair.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
I pull it out.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I've done it most of my life and sometimes I
can go months without doing it, and I'm doing it
every day almost.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
All the time.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
And she's like, well, that's anxiety, and I'm like, but
about what. I feel so good right now, things are good.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I'm like, I'm in the flow. Why would I be anxious?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So I'm just gonna be more still about that, try
to figure out how I can just start to rewire
some of that, Like maybe I need to put my
hair in a ponytail to keep myself from doing it.
Or you know, you can like literally tell yourself when
something's happening you change. You can say that word to yourself,
probably not out loud if you're in public, like you're
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having thoughts, or you can if you're by yourself and
you're just walking, you're like change, change, but you are
sending a message to your brain that you want to
change this behavior. And it's like if you were I
heard this one analogy too, like if the radio started
acting up or doing something like static. But sometimes we
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like will bang it, and that doesn't fix the problem totally.
So if you beat yourself up or yell at the radio,
that doesn't help. And so that's what we can do
to ourselves sometimes is we yell at ourselves and we
beat ourselves up and it's not really doing anything. But
if you physically change the channel, then you can go
to a different And.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What's funny is typically when you go back to that
first station, it's cleared up. If you change the channel,
Like if you get into a different space and then
go back, it's like, oh, all of a sudden, I
can hear it.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, I'm in the flow now, I get it now, yes, really,
And stillness has played into feeling good about my work
at the festival. I meditated that day before. I think
even that day I chose to do a meditation. Let me,
I bet I could look it up. Let me go
to my little portal, Okay, the one I chose to do.
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For that, I co create a career beyond my wildest dreams.
And by being a co creator, I'm a part of
it with.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
God, Yeah, with the higherbe So here's.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
A little thing that Gabby wrote regarding to that. A
few years ago, a friend texted me, how's work going,
and I replied with my go to refrain good, but
I'm so busy, super stressed running my business. Then I
got a response from him that changed everything for me.
It's not your business, It's God's business. You are the
servant of something unstoppable. Get out of the way. Wowza.
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There it was the nuggetive truth that I hadn't seen.
In that moment, I realized I was using work as
another form of addiction. In the days that followed, I
was reminded that my greatest spiritual shifts never come through force.
They come when I allowed the universe to work through me.
That was the day I started telling the universe to
be my employer. Now, Gabby's always very clear that you
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can say universe, God, whatever works for you. I feel
weird saying universe so whatever. That's just for me, but
other people might resonate with that, so I'm gonna switch
it to God. That was the day I started letting
God be my employer. It was when I really let
myself be open to creative direction and allowed my big
decisions to be made by my spiritual faith, and guess what,
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I started hitting new, bigger career peaks pretty quickly. Even better,
I was in the flow, truly enjoying my work rather
than feeling zapped by it. And then she went on
and on to give us encouragement. But that's where I
felt like that day of the festival, like I was
in the flow doing my thing. I felt like I
was exactly where I belonged, doing exactly what I needed
to do, helping out wherever I needed.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
To be help out. I was being breezy BINDI.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
They had to call audibles here and there, like, oh, shoot,
Sam Aunt supposed to be over here, but I don't
know he's now you got to go interview him over there.
And I don't know, Luke Brian, I know you've been
waiting here for five minutes, but he got caught up
somewhere else. You got to go do this and then
come back and hopefully he'll meet you. And then I
passed Luke Bryan in the hall and he looks at
me and he goes like, aren't I supposed to be
meeting you soon? And I'm like yeah, and he's like, well,
we'll see about that. And I'm like Okay, dude, I
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was just waiting for you five minutes over there. But
you know, it's like you just don't go with the flow.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
It's like okay.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
And then eventually Luke came around and we got the
interview that we needed. But everybody's just kind of being
hustled and bustled. But I was there to serve, Like
I was there as an employee of this festival and
saying how can I serve? How can you use me?
And I was open to whatever was throw my way.
And I feel as though that's an example of an
event that I was at. But I've sort of started
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also trying to go into my everyday work that way,
my days as a parent, Okay, how can I serve?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
How can I be flexible?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
How can I be bendi except for the days that
I flip out and lose my mind and I yell,
but that happens.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I think some too, like that's beautiful that you know
you know what you're you're good at and obviously you're
finding more confidence in it. Unfortunately, there's people that don't
identify their gifts and how they can serve. But I
think like part of figuring out how to get in
that flow is somewhat identifying your gifts and being confident
(22:37):
in them because it's really those gifts. I mean, that's
what you're created to use those to serve, you know,
and they serve yourself too, and doing so at least
for me like that, I feel like if I'm in
that sweet spot, then I'm serving someone with my talent
and skill, it's also selfishly serving me.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, that things are coming back to you totally. That's
where some of the we've talked a lot offline or
off air, on the phone, whatever, just as friends about
synchronicities that are happening when you're in the flow, and
just the way you know, things just start to happen
when you let go and you stop trying to control.
Which that was another thing that I heard too about surrender.
(23:19):
This may be even from my meditation this morning, but
I know there's a few more things I really need
to surrender. I feel like we're constantly can be surrendering
every day to surrender.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I think we're supposed to surrender at all.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, and so this.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
One thing I know I've been really really really really
really trying to control. And so she said surrender is
not giving up on your dreams, but it's letting go
of the need to control the timeline.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
My therapist said this to me last week. She did
he Jared, He's.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Why did I think you went to a she?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
But that's all right, Yeah, I mean I would, But no,
I've got a former linebacker who's my therapist. Shout out out, Jared.
There's a situation that I've I've been dwelling on and
I've kind of been trying to control and I've wanted
to see an outcome, and I guess kind of been
a round about way see justice. But he said, you know,
it's time for you to grieve that. And I was like, well,
(24:15):
I don't want to grieve that, because grieving that means
I'm like, I'm giving up or I'm giving in. He's
like no, He's like, grieving it allows you to let
go of that and maybe there could be a hope
that it could have been, that it becomes something better
than you ever dreamed it could.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Be, which I think saying yeah, let go and like God.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Well, and it's funny too, like you were saying that,
we're talking about the synchronicity. Yesterday I got to the
office and sometimes I pray out loud best when I'm
in my truck, like going to work or coming home. Anyways,
I wrote on my notepad, God is for you is
a reminder, And it's kind of like everything you're saying,
it's like, if God is for you, why would I
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stand in the way of everything He's trying to do
for me? You know? Again? But let go like God,
however you fin at, however you say it. But if
you realize that the Lord is literally for you, why
would you get in the way of that?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Because I think sometimes we always like to focus on
or we tend to focus on the negative. Yeah, and
what is not working for us or what we're against
or what And that's a whole nother conversation and I
were also having offline. Is just sometimes in the Christian space,
it's so just overwhelming when you just see people consumed
(25:33):
with calling people out for certain things and just being
so committed to what they are against. Yeah, when it's
just like, why can't we just focus on what we're
for and.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Totally love And I'll say this, I hope this isn't
like completely out of left field, but I think it's
relevant to the conversation. Something that whether it's what you
learned in church, whether it's your meditation practice, whether it's
your perception of what yoga is or you know, spirituality,
all of that I will always remember because I sat
(26:06):
on an interview with you when you talked to doctor
Beverly Tatum, who is the author of Why All the
Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria. We were talking
about race in America, and I remember she said, it's
not about what we need to learn as much as
it's about what we need to unlearn. And that has
been with me every day since I've heard that. And
(26:26):
I think there's so many things I grew up and
I'm always trying to learn something that's going to like
clear the fog. And I'm like, no, I mean, there's
things always to learn, we always should be learning, but
there's things that I need to unlearn and kind of
rewind and create some space to see more clearly as
it pertains to some of these things that we have
negative like perceptions of that just aren't true. Right Anyways,
(26:51):
I hope that made sense.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
But unlearning is still learning.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Ah, there you go, it is still with that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Because I'm going to sit with that. I'm going to
sit with.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
That growth and that's evolving and if we're not evolving,
we're dead.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And learning really is just growth, right, Yes, Yeah, isn't
it so funny? How almost? I mean, we were talking
a little bit offline, but like it's like word choice
(27:30):
in so many of these situations that so many people
are on the same page, but we just use different
words for the but like in our heart, we're thinking
of the same thing, like whether you say prayer or
meditation or growth or learning or the universe or God
or like, it's kind of like we're all coming from
(27:51):
a similar place and I think we're talking about similar things,
but we let word choice put up walls.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Yeah, I think just sometimes we I include myself and
whatever the category, whatever the topic, whatever the you know,
the belief that I've had for a very long time,
or maybe just I didn't even know I believed it,
but first came from somewhere that I just feel very
strongly about one thing or another. And then we just
we have fear around it because we're like, I don't
(28:20):
really know if I'm supposed to be into this, but
parts of me are telling me that it's probably fine.
Or actually, let's say it is okay. Is it really
that big of a deal or does it affect me?
Or is it my business or is it my place?
Or is that something I even need to take up
and be concerned with.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
And I think.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
When we do get wrapped around that stuff, it is
coming from a place of fear, and I really would
like to come from a place of love.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
And really everything boils down to fear or love.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
That's one thing that I have been working through a
lot lately. Any of my behavior, even my outburst that
I was talking about, looking back on how that unfolded,
because again I brought it up to my therapist, I
was reacting out of a place of fear.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I actually do know. Really we were able to get
to the root of it. I was sort of acting
like I don't even know where that came from.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Who how does that happen? Even I said the F word.
There was multiple people in my house too. I don't
do that. And then also my son was in the room.
Later I had to go talk to him. I think
my sister and her husband were in town too. I
had to go leave the room because I was on
the phone. I was actually on the phone with Ben
(29:32):
and I had to leave the room, and then luckily
my sister and Ben went over to Stevens and they
were explaining like, hey, sometimes.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
You know, we just say these things.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
And when I think back on the conversation, and then
Ben and I even revisited it later too, is it
was for sure I was coming from fear. And Ben
knows this too. He's working on the fear love thing
as well. And when you're going through and navigating a divorce,
there's a lot that comes up that's very scary. And
(30:01):
we have really tried hard to come from a place
of love and let's be thoughtful and kind through this
entire process. Did I tell you what his lawyer, Zophie
said to me?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
So I was there signing some stuff and the woman
working I don't know if she was paralegal or what.
She wasn't his actual lawyer, but she works worked closely
on the thing, and she's like, I know that we
represent Bin, but I told this to him too. We've
never seen anything like this, and you and Ben should
(30:34):
probably teach a class on how to get divorced because
we have just been I guess we're like the Unicorns.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Set off podcast How to Get divorced the right way,
which I mean I will say, like, I come from
a blended family and my parents are together, but they
each had children before getting together, having me and my
little brother, and I've watched how well they've navigated co
parenting and kind of going through blending families in a
(31:07):
really beautiful way.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And then I had friends whose parents went through divorces
and it was hell, Like it wasn't that way. So
I do think there's something to be said about people
that as intentional as you guys are being in the
process choosing love and respect, and probably could teach a
masterclass because I think a lot of people unfortunately let
their emotions run it and then it turns out to
(31:30):
be something uglier than it has to be.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Well, and even just the thought of divorce as a Christian,
there's so much even having thoughts about that, like the
judgment even that I had for myself, or this idea
that I never thought that would happen for me because
it wasn't an option, because I mean, my parents got
divorced and then I just never wanted to be a
part of that. I didn't want that to be my narrative.
(31:54):
But also I had stamped it as that is bad. Yep,
that is my dog. Keeps snort if you hear like
that is my dog, it is not me.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
And so you know, that's.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Another thing where people have this mindset of like, Okay,
this is good and this is bad, and it's my
job to tell you that you're bad now. And I
am so thankful that I was able to not worry
about any of that. Ben and I both and we
were able to kind of do what we needed to
do to reset and without judgment for ourselves because we
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both grew up at the same type of church and
that was not obviously encouraged. I mean, I think they
would have still loved people that came there divorcing me,
and they actually had a lot of people that would
show my mom and they started going to church after
my parents split up. We went like on Easter and Christmas.
But then when my dad left, my mom got invited
to a Bible study and she kind of was like, Eh,
(32:52):
it's kind of crazy, I don't want to go. And
then she, I guess, got to a place where she
was desperate and she decided to all her friend back
and say, hey, yeah, I'll go to the Bible study
and she went and that's where she found Jesus and
found her faith and started falling to her knees and
had her morning prayer time every morning. She was very,
(33:12):
very dedicated and committed. But I think that's what got
her through all of that. And there's no harm or
foul to anybody that we grew up with at that church.
I know they meant well, but it was extremely conservative.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
What was it legalistic?
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah? Same, So so I mean, like we're talking about stillness,
and I'm thinking as you're saying that, so I had
some things, you know, similar to my childhood where me
being in church, I felt a lot of shame, which
was kind of this juxtaposition because I genuinely loved the
Lord and felt like the Lord was my safe place.
(33:49):
But I was going to church quote unquote for the
Lord and feeling that shame. But what I would always
do growing up, and it's still the thing I do
today to get still is I go out. Of course
I grew up on a ranch, but like into the country.
Like I literally will walk out into a pastor by
myself and just stand there. It's almost like I can
(34:10):
get my breathing synchronized with the wind and then you
just kind of like everything calms and everything quiet, and
then it's like everything's good. And so it's funny you're
saying that, because like there were times that I was
in church feeling shame, but then I would go home
and I'd go out into the woods or I'd go
out into the pastors whatever, and it's like I was
(34:33):
going out there to find the Lord and be reminded
that what I'm feeling is not God, because again God
is for me.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah safe, yeah, right. Anyways, but it really helped the
judgment from the humans.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
But it came it was like, as I'm sitting here
thinking about it and processing that, I had to go
get still, like I would have to go out into
nature because it forced me to find peace and quiet,
and into peace and quiet, I felt the love of
the Lord and I still to this day do. I mean,
it's like if you follow me on Instagram, like you'll
(35:03):
see a million sunset pictures because it's like I go
out and do my thing and I'm like, oh, this
is beautiful with your picture.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Do you ever take your shoes off or get bear sometimes?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Like yeah, I don't do that a lot, but I
think there's something to be said about that and being
in nature, Like, we are a part of God's design.
It's a beautiful design and the more we can get
like not talking about synchronicity all the time, but like
I think we are very much a part of that
architecture that is Mother Nature in the way the Lord
(35:35):
designed us. Yeah, I find great peace and great I
guess the word today is stillness, but serenity when I
can get outside.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
It's just a memory just popped up of me on
the Bobby Bone Show in the early days with like Elena.
I feel like we had a girl group and we
were called serenity or something. I have not thought of
this in like forever.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I wonder if that's is that an archive thing they.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Can dig be on YouTube except for when we moved
to Nashville. We kind of wiped everything from YouTube before Nashville.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
So great, Oh it was really good stuff. Yeah, there's
really good.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Especially your creative video.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
So when it comes to being unsure about things or
not really knowing or accepting or trying to figure out, Oh,
I don't know, am I open to this? Am I
reacting this because of fear or love? That's how some
people feel about my cousin, my second cousin, Amanda, and
I even had a little bit of, like, if I'm
being honest, like some fear of her joining my podcast network,
(36:40):
even though I love her and I've had her on
the podcast and I support her, and who am I
to say what gifts she has or doesn't have? And
you know, she also talks to my mom for me
and sends me messages, so I'm like, thank you. Yeah,
But in my stillness, I might be able to get
there too. And I truly see my mom as one
(37:02):
of my spirit guides, and that's who's shown up for
me the most. I know my dad has passed away too,
but whenever I do prayers and meditations like that, it's
always my mom. Maybe my dad will show up leaar.
But I don't know exactly how Amanda does, but she does.
But I do believe that she has a gift. She's
(37:23):
been very right about like a lot of things. And
she joined my network and her first full episode went
up yesterday. So like my episodes will come out on
I'll come out on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and hers are
going to be every Wednesday, like everyone has their days.
Cats you need Therapy is Monday and Wednesday, and then
(37:44):
Truthiest Life is Friday, and anyway, list goes on, which
I am very excited about two other women that are
joining the network in June.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Do you know, I don't think I know.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Okay, they're good. You're gonna love when I'm very excited. Okay,
you'sh they're probably.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
So.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Amanda's launched and her name's Amanda Rieger Green and her
podcast is called Soul Sessions with Amanda Riga Green, and
she really can also help you tap into your highest potential.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
So like, maybe you're not even into the whole.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Medium, psychic type stuff, numerology, astrology, She's into it all.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Maybe you're not.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
That's not for you, I will say, I think there's
still stuff you could get from what she has to say.
She's very wise, she has a big heart. She identifies
as a Christian, but she also is open to all faiths.
Like eventually you'll hear her explain how all of that
works in her mind or in her beliefs. But her
(38:47):
podcast is out, and I'm just I'm sort of stuttering
around it because I guess this is the first time
I've said publicly that like she came to me and said,
I want to do a podcast, And I thought, okay.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Well, all right, I have a network and I'm her cousin,
so I guess because it's probably going to come here.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
But then, you know, we had real conversations of like
I thought, shoot, what are people going to think? Like
I don't want for people to get turned off or
But then I was like, you know what, that is
not my business, not my place.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
I love my cousin.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I supported her in other ways, so why would I
turn away from her in this giving her an opportunity
and a platform to share her gifts and let her
do her thing. If I were to hold back from that,
I feel like that would be me operating out of fear.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
And I'm more.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Open to all kinds of things than I've ever been,
just because I've been through so much.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
I've seen so much.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
And again, I don't want to operate out of fear,
and I don't want to project, and I don't want
to call out things, and I don't want to be
a part of judgment, Like I want to operate from love,
and the most loving thing I could do as a
cousin would say, Hey, I had a network and I'll
hook you up with Fazzio and iHeart will back you,
and you know you've got you know, Houston will help
(40:07):
produce you and edit things and we're good.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Yep, so here we are.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
And if you're you realize that she joined my network
and you stop listening to us, well, okay, goodbye.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I don't know. You probably don't listening to.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
This well, And I would just encourage anyone like So,
I've had a lot of side conversations with Fozzio and
you know, I'm like, again, I identify as a Christian
and follow Jesus, but I'm excited to set up a
meeting with her because I've met her before. She's a delight,
but you can also tell she's very educated, she's very sharp.
And it's like, why would I, like just because I'm
(40:42):
not comfortable with it? Why would I not hear her out?
Why would I not listen and learn something new? And
it's like, I think you can go into it believing
what you believe and be okay. No one's trying to
like convert you or do anything crazy. But she is
incredibly sharp, and so I'll say it at minimum, if
it kind of if you are weary, I think you'll
(41:02):
be you'll be entertained and educated in some way. And
I think I've heard just a little bit of it,
and I'm I'm impressed.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
I'm thrilled for all Right, Well, I'm going to play
a clip from the episode that went up yesterday about
intuitive development because I think it's in alignment. Coincidentally or
is it on purpose? I don't know, was it like syncreticity.
I know she's talking about intuitive development.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
Intuitive development just so you know, at least on my part,
is just as much about connecting with God and whatever
faith you hold or have, how little, how small, whatever
religious ideologies you align with, this fits. This is about
deepening your connection, better knowing yourself and better feeling and
(41:53):
living that part of you that's connected to the divine.
And again, it takes practice. It takes courage, it takes
building muscles, it takes dedication, repetition, sometimes a framework, but
it also takes talking about it, having people, having a
community where you find things that resonate with you and
(42:15):
you're able to share those experiences, you're able to practice,
and you get curious, you have fun. It's also about
fun because it's about self exploration ultimately and that's another
piece to what this podcast is about.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Okay, Chase, you're gonna go listen to the whole episode now,
are you are?
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Like? Yes, basically what we've been talking about.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
And I encourage y'all to check out Amanda if you
want to. If you don't, it's not your thing. Someone
already left like a one star like review, and it's like,
why what is wrong with people?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Don't they know?
Speaker 5 (42:50):
If you don't have anything nice to say, just say
it or we can also take feedback and constructive criticism,
but like, why are you going to make it on
a public platform like send us a h's a email
or DMP or something. And Amanda's instagram is at soul Pathology.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Do you follow her?
Speaker 4 (43:09):
No? But I probably will right now.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
You'll probably start and then you'll like and subscribe. And
then my cryocats is the one that told me about
the one star review she goes, So I went ahead
and I wrote a review and I gave five stars.
She's like trying to counter the bad which I am
working on. I was about to say I'm very bad
at but you know, oh, we don't speak that way.
(43:32):
So what I need to work on is reminding listeners
here that if you do like an episode, well, first
of all, say, if you do have feedback, you can
email me four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
If you have liked an episode or you enjoy the podcast,
it is helpful to go leave five stars or leave
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a review and start adding those up. I rarely mention that,
and there's I feel like Oprah on Super Soul Conversations.
She says it every time, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Oprah, then you got to go Oprah.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
It's good or you know, I see other What I
see in my mind is really huge successful podcasts that
do it. And I'm like, well, if they ask for it,
I can ask for it, and I should actually ask
for it with confidence because why not?
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
So go leave that review.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
If you want to, if you want to, no pressure. Well, Chase,
thank you for joining. Why don't you throw out where
people can find you, especially I personally and professionally.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
And professionally on Instagram at Chase lock Underscore. Professionally you
can find us at One Country.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
And you and your friend Patrick.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Oh yeah, we have a podcast, Chase and Patrick Show,
which is wherever you listen.
Speaker 6 (45:02):
To just interview Parker McCollum.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, we had Parker. It was on Cinco de Miles,
so I asked for forgiveness. We we had some margaritas beforehand,
so I wasn't too proud for that interview.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
You're a Christian and you had I know, it's.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
A fine line.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
Stevenson's in here right now and he he I knew
he was going to say that. I'm trying to explain
to him just if an adult has one glass of
wine or one margarita, that does not equal get And
that's literally what He's laying on the couch. And he
looked at you and he goes, did you get drunk?
It is tricky to understand that. I was just trying
(45:44):
to I was having a glass of wine the other
night and Steven's looked at me, he goes, are you
getting drunk? And I was like, no, I'm having one
glass of wine and it was probably a three ounce
poor you know, because sometimes I can do a nine
ounce poor. Hey.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
We got to look out for one another. I Stevenson, Yep.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
That's it, got my back.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Nine outs.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
This wouldn't get me drunk either.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Maybe some people, I'm not sure, but no, it's like
it would have to be a lot more than that.
People have different tolerance and twelve ounces.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Maybe I know welcome to my life.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
So but we try to talk openly and honestly about
all kinds of things, like I don't want to hide.
I feel like my mom drank well once she became
she found Jesus. At our church that we went to,
people didn't drink really at all. If they did, they
called it purple coffee and they would coffee. They would
drink it out of a coffee mug, and my mom
(46:45):
was gonna My mom would say, oh, we're just gonna
hollow purple coffee. And I'm like, okay, I am not
doing this to my children. I am saying, yes, I
am having wine. I am an adult and I can
have this. And one day, when you're an adult, we'll
see if that's that's what you want.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
To do too. But you no pressure either way. I'm
not making it like a thing.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Hey, just if you this complete sidebarb, but if you
need a little bit of joy in your life today,
I still will YouTube that Ellen clip of the lady
that I love Jesus, but I drink a little. It's
an old like that still makes me laugh out loud.
So if you're looking for a laugh, courage right now.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Okay, I can have Houston put it in. So Houston,
let's play that.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Oh she's so funny.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Play that right now. Listen.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'll be honest with you. Yeah, I love Jesus, but
I drink a little.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
So there was the Ellen clip. Thank you for that laugh,
Chase and impromptu laugh. And we'll leave with a suggestion
from Stevenson's in season here. He actually put on meditation
before bed the other night.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
From you know where YouTube.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
This family loves YouTube, and it was what was it
called fall asleep Fast with God's Word.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
So there you go, good one, a Christian meditation. But
I mean you can do. I love Gabby's.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
I love other ones that I just randomly, Oh, like,
you know what I need to type in that one
guy that I told you that I've been falling asleep to.
I'm going to get it right now, Chase filibuster. While
I find this.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Filibuster just well, I mean, what are are you supposed
to end it with? What you're grateful for?
Speaker 6 (48:28):
Four things? Gratitude?
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Go oh me?
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Oh man, I thought I was gonna send it to you.
I mean, I will say I'm really thankful for our team,
the good folks that I work with. I have to
continue working to get better at letting people help me,
and they are incredibly supportive people and I'm lucky to
work with them every day. Am I doing four?
Speaker 6 (48:48):
Yep? That was one?
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Okay, I'll say my partner Patrick, who I work with,
who amy knows and is comical and keeps things lively.
It's awesome when you get a like do business with
one of your best buddies. I'm thankful for summer. Like again,
I like to be outdoors and I was ready for
the seasons to change, and so walking outside and the
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sunshine and warmer weather. Grateful for that. And then honestly, like,
not to be cheesy, but I'm grateful for where you're.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
At because you went through very cheesy.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I know, but you've gone You've gone through a season
that at times you know we've all been praying for you.
But it's it's great. And again hearing you be confident
in where you're at and it's awesome. So I'm grateful
for that too.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
All right, First thing for me, I'm grateful for you
to come over and have this conversation because I think
it's I think it's a good one.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
I think it's important.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
It's one I want to be having with my friends,
and so here we are having it on the podcast.
A second thing would be Steven Simmons Tashira. I'm very
thankful for both of them and the joy that they
are my life. We all were hanging out on my
bed last night talking and joking about things.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Wasn't that fun? No, we weren't. Okay, I know this
was awesome.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
No, we were talking about how to share wants to
write a book, and I'm really excited to see that
potentially come to life. We're putting that out there, we're
surrendering that. See what happens. And then she wants to
go to Japan, and then you know, Stevenson has lots
of thoughts on asteroids that are going to hit the earth.
Like we just have normal conversations like before bedtime, and
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then that's my second thing. Third thing would be my
dog Kara, who is just very She's cuckoo bananas, but
we love her right she is. Something is up with her.
She barks a lot and has a lot of anxiety.
But also I'm pulling at my hair right now too,
which means I also have anxiety. So maybe she is
(51:00):
picking up on my anxiety. All my fault, this is
all me.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Maybe you're picking up on hers something.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Ooh, yeah, that's not a bird.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
But Stevenson's very into roasting people and burn and then
he'll try to roast and it won't.
Speaker 6 (51:18):
I'm like, is that you roasting? Because that wasn't even hardcore.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
I love it, Stevenson.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
And then my fourth thing will be the guy I
found the meditation that I've the sleep meditation music that
I've been listening to where he's like, good evening. My
name is Jason Stevenson. Stevenson, My Stephenson is with a V,
he's with a pH.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Southern No.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
I think he's like British or Australian. Jason's he's trying
to follow your accents.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
Yes, and also I'm trying to go to sleep, but
he's like, you're walking through the forest.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
I don't know, you'll see.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
But he has three point four million subscribers.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Hey, I'm going to listen to it tonight.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
So some of his videos tons and tons of views.
Can you hear that?
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah? That one was fine.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
Yeah, it's glad to sleep meditation.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
A practice that will help you in falling asleep quickly
and easily. Jason Stevenson, and whether you are and wherever
you are, I only welcome.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
You to this practice.
Speaker 6 (52:25):
He normally welcomes you. But see how he says his
name every time. I'm Jason Steve Tonight. Those good. He's
all different.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
You can click on if you want one for like
I said, there's miracles. You can have one for limiting beliefs.
You can have one for creating abundance in your life.
Speaker 6 (52:43):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
I'm not a brain expert, but like, the reason why
I want to listen to it when I'm sleeping is
I feel like somewhere because it runs for like three hours,
so I don't know my my subconscious brain is absorbing
whatever Jason Stephenson is telling me, and.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
I feel I feel like I.
Speaker 5 (53:05):
Am I'm getting the information and therefore I'm open to
the miracles because you know, we can block stuff, and
I don't want to block it. So if my sleepy
brain is going to absorb it, which I think is,
it's a good time. That's the brain state you want
to absorb things in, like just before you're going to
(53:25):
sleep and then like right when you wake up or something.
I don't know, not a brain expert here, but I
want my brain to receive that. It's almost like I'm
brainwashing myself at night.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
And it also is kind of like the one point
in the day when your body forces yourself to get
still and you can receive things right when you're going
to sleep, Like you're getting really still as you enter.
Speaker 5 (53:49):
Right, did you know that when you're sleeping there's a
part in the process where your brain is like, Okay,
I don't know if it sounds like this, well, I'll
be my brain real quick or your brain. All right,
this is the time of the night where we start
to decide what memories we want to keep and what
memories we want to throw away.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Like think of how many things you see in a day, Yeah,
a lot, and then you.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Don't when you wake up the next day, you don't remember,
you know, the one hundred cars you pass on the highway.
You might remember the one yellow one for some reason,
or the huge truck that almost hit you, or the
rock that flew out of a truck.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
And hit your windshield. But those are the memories you
chose to keep.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Yeah, and there's people and encounters and different things, and
it's like some of the stuff, quite honestly, that my brain.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
Chooses to keep I wish it would like go up.
I'm like, gosh, could.
Speaker 5 (54:37):
We Why are we holding onto that one? And then
and Kat and I have talked about this on the
fifth thing, like every time you recall a memory, certain
elements of it change if time has gone by, or
you're retelling it in a different way, maybe someone's tone
and the story changes or your version changes. Are a
word here or a word there, you know, and then
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he gets filed back in your brain that way, and
then you bring it back up again and it gets
to and then you file it back away that way.
And so really, over time memory, our memories are not
accurate at all, and especially a lot of stuff from
our childhood, I don't even know sometimes if it's actually
a memory I have, or something that my family told me,
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or I watched a video of it, or I saw
a picture and then I thought I was.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
There and then created a narrative that is now the memory.
Speaker 6 (55:29):
Right, Yeah, Okay, now my daughter's in here, this is
a family affair. What do you need?
Speaker 5 (55:34):
She just walked in and goes mind blown. Why is
your mind blown?
Speaker 4 (55:38):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (55:39):
She's like, y'all are still talking? She goesn't mind blown?
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Okay, she has a French exam tomorrow and she needs
me to study, although I am very ready for Jason Stevens.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Hey, you're close, You're not far, You're not far.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
Okay, all right, Thank you, Chase, and thank you everybody
if you're still listening to this.
Speaker 6 (56:00):
Ow wow wow wow. Okay we should we should divide
this into two parts. Okay.
Speaker 5 (56:06):
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Speaker 5 (56:18):
All right, now, like everybody's in here, so let's all
say bye on the count of three. Hold on the
count of three, one, two, three bye.
Speaker 6 (56:29):
Okay, we need to work on that. Okay. Bye,
Cas up.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Little food for you.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
So it's pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
It's pretty beautiful, beautiful for a little more exciting, said he.
You're kicking with fur with Amy Brown.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Happy Thursday, Four Things, Amy here and Chase Chase Locke.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Is is back. It's been a minute. I've missed. I've
missed the crew. What what do you what do you
call them? Are they four Fingers or the Brownies? Or
is there like a name for.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
The group, Walker Hayes, I think nicknamed them the Brownie
the Brownies.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I think I think that's good. Maybe that's where
I heard that. So what Brownie?
Speaker 6 (01:00):
We'll go with that.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
If you're new to the podcast, like in the last
I mean, when's the last time you're on, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Been a minute I left Nashville.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I mean, but back in the early days of this podcast,
you were on quite a bit. In fact, Kat is
now the co host of The Fifth Thing, and she
has been for a long time. But you used to
be a regular on The Fifth Thing and you would
read the emails. That was back when it was mostly
Q and A. And you would read the emails and
then I would give an answer.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I'm pretty good at moderating Amy. That's kind of a
pastime of mine.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You have done that, I've that on stage before, and
Chase and are going to talk about stillness, and I'm
really excited to talk about this, well, just with a
friend and having a conversation and other people joining in
with us.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
We had someone email us.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
We read it on the Fifth Thing this week about
how she ran a marathon and she listened to Kat
and I in the pot four Things podcast and whatnot
like for training and then yes, and I thought, wow,
listening to someone, But she said, it just feels like
I'm having to talk with my friends. And I thought
it was a very special note to receive because that's
(02:08):
exactly the vibe that we want to have. And so
Chase and I are sitting here and we're going to
talk about stillness, just as.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
We would if we weren't even recording this.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
But hopefully you'll feel like you're just sitting with us.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
And I have an empty couch in.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Here that we're pretending that you're sitting on, so we're
looking over at you right now. You're a part of
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
So Chase and I were on the phone earlier today
and just talking about my meditation for this week, and
I get most of my meditations from Gabby Bernstein. I
find other ones on YouTube, but I kind of go
to whatever she's curated for the week, And this one
was from a few weeks ago, but I keep going
back to it, like the one this week.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
I don't even know what it's about.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I haven't even looked at it yet, because I keep
going back to this one, which I think is myself
telling myself, Yeah, my body, my brain, my tell me, Okay,
you need more of this. And the affirmation for this
meditation is stillness is the key to my success. And
I am most still when I'm in my prayer time,
(03:11):
my meditation time, my journaling time, and the meditation is
probably about ten minutes for this one, and I've done
it every morning this week.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Proud of myself. Try to celebrate the wins.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Although I was listening to something the other day that said,
don't beat yourself up for the days that you miss meditation,
because when you're in the flow, or you miss your
quiet time or whatever it looks like for you, because
then if you beat yourself up about it, you're out
of the flow. Yeah, my sister's calling, Should I just
answer it?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
On speaker. Yes, okay, hold please, hold please, We'll just
keep this rolling. Hey, Christy, you're on speakerphone.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I have Chase in the room and we're recording a podcast,
So don't say anything too crazy because you're on the air.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What up?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
So glad you told me that? Why what were you
going to say?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm not going to good now? Why did you call Hey,
we're all friends here Christy later when you're not on air?
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Why did Okay, her voice.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Is she's so giggly. Likely there's something that.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Your voice got really high. What's going on on a
one to ten?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Is it serious? No, do not get excited.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Nothing that interesting.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
It was more a follow up question from our earlier conversation. Okay,
I was just to follow up.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I needed to say.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Okay, I will say you really.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Want to follow up right now?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
On air?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Everything Christy says is interesting to me, big fan.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yeah, Chase, your session, Chase talking about we're talking about stillness?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, gonna get still.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Have you practiced stillness this week?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yes, about three days ago.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I did.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Med. I think this is good because I think it
really identifies the listener.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
No, that's pretty still for bid And I wanted to
do it every morning, but so far it happened so failing.
I also wanted to do it at night before bed.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I had very high hopes.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
There's the evening and the morning, and it's supposed to
change your life and calm your soul.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Okay, Well, that you set me up for exactly where
I was before you called, which was that if you
beat yourself up for not meditating as you thought. Like
when I'm doing the meditation in a row, like several
days in a row, I start to get in the flow
and I'm like, okay, and then if you have to
miss a day or two or three or four, and
then you start beating yourself up, You've immediately taken yourself
(05:43):
out of the flow. Like part of being in the
flow is that you're also okay if you miss a
few days. But I too have heard that if you
do a morning and a night, it is a game changer.
So I've been trying to fall asleep to a nighttime meditation.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I don't know who this guy.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Is, but he has over two million followers on YouTube,
and so I just pull up the YouTube and he's like,
good evening. My name is Stevens. Joseph Stevens.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
I don't know. I'll have to look it up.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, but he's like you're walking in a forest and
then you see animal.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
He like walks you through this whole thing.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
But it's supposed to like while you sleep, take your
subconscious into being open to miracles.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And I'm like, I need that.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I'm telling you, I've been impressed with the things you've
been finding on YouTube, So I'm gonna have to check
that out.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Okay, Curzy, it's full of golden treasure, it is.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I believe that, and a bunch of crap.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
I think you found it. Keep doing it, Okay, I'll
call you back. I wonder what she was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I don't know. That was probably the most animated I've
heard her as far as like when she kind of
seemed like she was up to something.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, fall you don't beat yourself up if you can't
do it, because that in itself is you not being
in the flow. So like when I was doing my
meditation this morning, I started to receive information because I
was still but it was good information for me and
how I was going to set up my day. It
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was offering me creative ideas and solutions to some stuff
I was trying to work through, and I thought, wow,
if I had not taken the time this morning, and
I just went into my go go, go, go, go hustle,
got to get to work, and I didn't wake up
early enough to get this stuff in because then even
afterwards I journaled and more stuff flowed out of me
because I felt like I was able to listen.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Now, whether that's you know, God.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Talking to me, me talking to me, I don't really
know for sure, Yeah, but I'm able to receive the information.
And so that is where the key to my success
comes in, because I'm able to listen, whereas when your
go go go, you can't, yeah, listen, and then then
you're of no use to anybody. Like I saw this
(08:04):
one article saying listen, this is Stillness is the key
to all of this stuff, thinking clearly, seeing the whole chessboard,
making tough decisions, managing emotions, identifying the right goals, handling
high pressure situations, maintaining relationships, building good habits, being productive,
(08:25):
physical excellence, whatever that what is that, feeling fulfilled, capturing
moments of laughter and joy. Stillness is the key to
just about everything. To be a better parent, a better artist,
a better investor, a better athlete, a better scientist, a
better human being to unlocking all the weird capable of
in this life. To achieve stillness, we need to focus
(08:47):
on three domains. The domain of the mind, the domain
of the spirit, and the domain.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Of the body.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Stillness lies naturally within us, but accessing it is not easy,
and so that's where the commitment comes in. And yeah,
mind body spirit, like I can't I can't tell you
how many therapists in the last three years have all thankfully, thankfully,
I've I've had really good ones. But whether it was
therapists for kids or myself or me and Ben, whatever,
(09:15):
every single one of them talked about the importance of
mind body spirit that they are so I mean, And
of course growing up as a Christian, like I knew that,
but sometimes even just it could get a little woo
woo because I grew up very conservative Christian. Yeah, and
so some of that you know, yogi type stuff, even
the word meditations the same. But no, I feel like
(09:37):
your spiritual beings, this is how we were designed and
this is the place that takes us to the highest potential.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
And there's that, you know, the whole Holy spirit thing
we talk about in church.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Too, right, Yeah, And no matter you know what your
faith is or your walk or whatever you believe, if
you're listening to this, like, we're very here for all.
But I'm just speaking from my per personal experience. I
think I spent years running from that. Even I did
a lot of yoga classes back in the day, and
I was so uncomfortable if they would even have a
(10:11):
hint towards this type of dingo, and I would be like, oh,
Dear Lord, forgive me for coming to this yoga class
or whatever. And now I would crave a class like that,
and I could see how it could be very beneficial
and fruitful for me.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, I felt that with meditation. The first time meditation
was kind of coming into the conversation, it freaked me
out because I was like, well, that's not you know,
I pray like I don't meditate, And I downloaded the
headspace app and kind of going back to what Chrissy
said and you alluded to, like sometimes when you hear meditation,
I think there's like you have in your head if
you're doing it right, like there's a candle and everything's
(10:48):
quiet and it's peaceful and perfect And honestly, the first
time I started using the Headspace app was in the
subway when I was working in New York. I put
in my headphones because I'd ride the train, and it
was like it would allow me to focus on my breath,
which is that whole how I perceived mind, body spirit
like kind of clearing my headspace to allow for really
(11:10):
what I identify, you know, as the Holy Spirit in
my faith, like meditation kind of tease me up for
that stillness and that time.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Of prayer, and then you're able to receive totally.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But it's like that that meditation and that discipline whatever
you call it, gets you, or at least for me,
to that place of stillness, Like I realized in my
prayer journey as I became an adult, Like I'm not
sitting here saying like I'm great at praying, but I
was pretty good at like saying my prayers, but I was,
like I realized, I'm terrible at listening. But in order
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to listen, like I believe God's always talking to us,
and in order for me to hear that or receive that,
I got to get still, Like I've got to create
space to hear that, right.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yes, and so part of what's really worked for me.
And I just heard you say so I'm not trying
to annoying changing your your vocabulary, but this has been
very helpful to me in my brain. And I still
don't have it totally down. But like you said, I
would you say I'm a terrible listener?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Okay, So you know what I'm want to say. This
has been very helpful to me in my brain, and
I still don't have it totally down, but like you said,
(12:32):
I would you say.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I'm a terrible listener?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Okay, so you know what I'm want to say.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I would like to hear you say I am working
on being a better listener.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I am working on being a better listener. Good. Yeah,
Now we had this conversation. Now honestly since we have,
I've been working on that and I it was kind
of one of those things where like, oh, Amy's telling
me I need to like speak more positively about myself.
But it's actually been it's been healthy, especially like I've
tried to journal some of that just so I could
see it on paper. That's better for me in terms
(13:07):
of receiving.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Well, you also should celebrate, you know, you said not
to brag, but I'm good. I'm good at praying, and
Leanne Ellington would say, part of my homework from her
is to brag on myself a little bit like tell myself.
But it helps you recognize where you're good and celebrate that.
(13:29):
And that's totally okay. And I think some are like, oh,
I don't want to really say that. It's okay to
be confident and say, yeah, I celebrate the fact that
I am good at praying. Thank you Lord for giving
me the ability to know how to pray. And then
also that I have a chance to learn how to
be a better listener. And then if you recognize a
time where you have listened better, celebrate that.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And you've come a long way on that very much.
So I mean really like, and I'm not trying. You
might not want me to call this out, but we
had that conversation that other. Now you've never been like
really hard on yourself. Well, at times you have been.
But I called and I said, how was the festival?
How was Austin? How? And you were like it was great.
You're like, I killed it, but you said in a
(14:12):
way it wasn't cocky, It wasn't, but it was like
you owned it and you knew that you did well.
And what I tell you, I mean, I literally was like,
in the last ten years, this is the first time
I've ever heard you say anything like that honestly, which
which like kind of is like, man, we've always seen
that in you, but now to see I keep joking
like two point zero, but like, as you continue to
(14:34):
work on yourself and just make yourself better for you
and your family, like it's amazing, It's just amazing. Like
I know that sounds so small, but to me, it
was like I literally journaled it with the date because
I was like, I've never heard her well.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I can recognize that, and then I can also celebrate
that I answered that way, and that's probably something I'll
go back in journal is how I answered that with
such confidence, because I do think that a lot of
times I downplay certain things or make myself small.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
And the past several months.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I've really been trying to build those new neural pathways.
And I walked away for I mean, we've been doing
that festival for I mean, we do it in Austin
for the Country Fest and then iHeart Festival in Vegas
for the so we've been doing these things for years
and it's like twice a year that it's a big
like where we get to see a ton of artists,
Like all of our bosses are there. We're getting to
do a lot of different interviews or stuff on camera.
(15:32):
There's stuff on stage you have to just be on
and you're on the go, and you know, it can
be a lot, and some stuff they're recording live, they're
timing it.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
They're like we need the you know.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
And there's people running around like backstage, like there's a
lot of people in frenzies, Like there's people in like
we're in Austin, but there's people.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
In New York that are producing it.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
It's airing on the radio, and you know they're taping
it for you know, TV broadcasts, different things. So all
that to say, I know that every single thing that
I did, I did.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It exactly how I was supposed to do it.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I didn't mess up once, not a word. I mean,
I'm sure there's something I could have done a little
bit better, but when it comes to like what I
was supposed to do, I did it, and I feel
like I did it well. And our bosses were happy
with everybody, and they expressed that, and so I felt like,
if you asked me how it went, now I can
confidently say, yeah, I killed it.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
But I'm encouraging other people.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I'm reiterating that story so that other people can know,
like if you know you did something well at work,
or if you know you did an awesome parenting move,
or you handled something in your relationship, well it is
totally okay to own it and stand confident in it.
Which speaking of being a parent, my son just walked in, Hey, Bud,
what's up. You can wait a little bit, let's do
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Let's try eight o'clock. I put them on the counter,
sent ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Celebrate that. I'm a good mom, well not the best.
I definitely lost my cool. I got out of the flow.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, but you got into it.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I got out of the flow hard core.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
In fact, it's like something I went to my therapist
about because I was like, I don't even know what happened.
It's like I just snapped, and I hadn't snapped in
a while, so I'm not quite sure what sent me there.
I always like try to go back to the root
of like what happened, But then have you seen me
pulling at my hair. Okay, it's the most I've ever
pulled at my hair. People, if you're listening for the
first time, maybe you don't know, but there's this one
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part of my hair.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
I pull it out.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I've done it most of my life and sometimes I
can go months without doing it, and I'm doing it
every day almost.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
All the time.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
And she's like, well, that's anxiety, and I'm like, but
about what. I feel so good right now, things are good.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I'm like, I'm in the flow. Why would I be anxious?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So I'm just gonna be more still about that, try
to figure out how I can just start to rewire
some of that, Like maybe I need to put my
hair in a ponytail to keep myself from doing it.
Or you know, you can like literally tell yourself when
something's happening you change. You can say that word to yourself,
probably not out loud if you're in public, like you're
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having thoughts, or you can if you're by yourself and
you're just walking, you're like change, change, but you are
sending a message to your brain that you want to
change this behavior. And it's like if you were I
heard this one analogy too, like if the radio started
acting up or doing something like static. But sometimes we
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like will bang it, and that doesn't fix the problem totally.
So if you beat yourself up or yell at the radio,
that doesn't help. And so that's what we can do
to ourselves sometimes is we yell at ourselves and we
beat ourselves up and it's not really doing anything. But
if you physically change the channel, then you can go
to a different And.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What's funny is typically when you go back to that
first station, it's cleared up. If you change the channel,
Like if you get into a different space and then
go back, it's like, oh, all of a sudden, I
can hear it.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, I'm in the flow now, I get it now, yes, really,
And stillness has played into feeling good about my work
at the festival. I meditated that day before. I think
even that day I chose to do a meditation. Let me,
I bet I could look it up. Let me go
to my little portal, Okay, the one I chose to do.
(19:34):
For that, I co create a career beyond my wildest dreams.
And by being a co creator, I'm a part of
it with.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
God, Yeah, with the higherbe So here's.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
A little thing that Gabby wrote regarding to that. A
few years ago, a friend texted me, how's work going,
and I replied with my go to refrain good, but
I'm so busy, super stressed running my business. Then I
got a response from him that changed everything for me.
It's not your business, It's God's business. You are the
servant of something unstoppable. Get out of the way. Wowza.
(20:08):
There it was the nuggetive truth that I hadn't seen.
In that moment, I realized I was using work as
another form of addiction. In the days that followed, I
was reminded that my greatest spiritual shifts never come through force.
They come when I allowed the universe to work through me.
That was the day I started telling the universe to
be my employer. Now, Gabby's always very clear that you
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can say universe, God, whatever works for you. I feel
weird saying universe so whatever. That's just for me, but
other people might resonate with that, so I'm gonna switch
it to God. That was the day I started letting
God be my employer. It was when I really let
myself be open to creative direction and allowed my big
decisions to be made by my spiritual faith, and guess what,
(20:50):
I started hitting new, bigger career peaks pretty quickly. Even better,
I was in the flow, truly enjoying my work rather
than feeling zapped by it. And then she went on
and on to give us encouragement. But that's where I
felt like that day of the festival, like I was
in the flow doing my thing. I felt like I
was exactly where I belonged, doing exactly what I needed
to do, helping out wherever I needed.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
To be help out. I was being breezy BINDI.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
They had to call audibles here and there, like, oh, shoot,
Sam Aunt supposed to be over here, but I don't
know he's now you got to go interview him over there.
And I don't know, Luke Brian, I know you've been
waiting here for five minutes, but he got caught up
somewhere else. You got to go do this and then
come back and hopefully he'll meet you. And then I
passed Luke Bryan in the hall and he looks at
me and he goes like, aren't I supposed to be
meeting you soon? And I'm like yeah, and he's like, well,
we'll see about that. And I'm like Okay, dude, I
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was just waiting for you five minutes over there. But
you know, it's like you just don't go with the flow.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
It's like okay.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
And then eventually Luke came around and we got the
interview that we needed. But everybody's just kind of being
hustled and bustled. But I was there to serve, Like
I was there as an employee of this festival and
saying how can I serve? How can you use me?
And I was open to whatever was throw my way.
And I feel as though that's an example of an
event that I was at. But I've sort of started
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also trying to go into my everyday work that way,
my days as a parent, Okay, how can I serve?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
How can I be flexible?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
How can I be bendi except for the days that
I flip out and lose my mind and I yell,
but that happens.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I think some too, like that's beautiful that you know
you know what you're you're good at and obviously you're
finding more confidence in it. Unfortunately, there's people that don't
identify their gifts and how they can serve. But I
think like part of figuring out how to get in
that flow is somewhat identifying your gifts and being confident
(22:37):
in them because it's really those gifts. I mean, that's
what you're created to use those to serve, you know,
and they serve yourself too, and doing so at least
for me like that, I feel like if I'm in
that sweet spot, then I'm serving someone with my talent
and skill, it's also selfishly serving me.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, that things are coming back to you totally. That's
where some of the we've talked a lot offline or
off air, on the phone, whatever, just as friends about
synchronicities that are happening when you're in the flow, and
just the way you know, things just start to happen
when you let go and you stop trying to control.
Which that was another thing that I heard too about surrender.
(23:19):
This may be even from my meditation this morning, but
I know there's a few more things I really need
to surrender. I feel like we're constantly can be surrendering
every day to surrender.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I think we're supposed to surrender at all.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, and so this.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
One thing I know I've been really really really really
really trying to control. And so she said surrender is
not giving up on your dreams, but it's letting go
of the need to control the timeline.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
My therapist said this to me last week. She did
he Jared, He's.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Why did I think you went to a she?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
But that's all right, Yeah, I mean I would, But no,
I've got a former linebacker who's my therapist. Shout out out, Jared.
There's a situation that I've I've been dwelling on and
I've kind of been trying to control and I've wanted
to see an outcome, and I guess kind of been
a round about way see justice. But he said, you know,
it's time for you to grieve that. And I was like, well,
(24:15):
I don't want to grieve that, because grieving that means
I'm like, I'm giving up or I'm giving in. He's
like no, He's like, grieving it allows you to let
go of that and maybe there could be a hope
that it could have been, that it becomes something better
than you ever dreamed it could.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Be, which I think saying yeah, let go and like God.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Well, and it's funny too, like you were saying that,
we're talking about the synchronicity. Yesterday I got to the
office and sometimes I pray out loud best when I'm
in my truck, like going to work or coming home. Anyways,
I wrote on my notepad, God is for you is
a reminder, And it's kind of like everything you're saying,
it's like, if God is for you, why would I
(24:52):
stand in the way of everything He's trying to do
for me? You know? Again? But let go like God,
however you fin at, however you say it. But if
you realize that the Lord is literally for you, why
would you get in the way of that?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Because I think sometimes we always like to focus on
or we tend to focus on the negative. Yeah, and
what is not working for us or what we're against
or what And that's a whole nother conversation and I
were also having offline. Is just sometimes in the Christian space,
it's so just overwhelming when you just see people consumed
(25:33):
with calling people out for certain things and just being
so committed to what they are against. Yeah, when it's
just like, why can't we just focus on what we're
for and.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Totally love And I'll say this, I hope this isn't
like completely out of left field, but I think it's
relevant to the conversation. Something that whether it's what you
learned in church, whether it's your meditation practice, whether it's
your perception of what yoga is or you know, spirituality,
all of that I will always remember because I sat
(26:06):
on an interview with you when you talked to doctor
Beverly Tatum, who is the author of Why All the
Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria. We were talking
about race in America, and I remember she said, it's
not about what we need to learn as much as
it's about what we need to unlearn. And that has
been with me every day since I've heard that. And
(26:26):
I think there's so many things I grew up and
I'm always trying to learn something that's going to like
clear the fog. And I'm like, no, I mean, there's
things always to learn, we always should be learning, but
there's things that I need to unlearn and kind of
rewind and create some space to see more clearly as
it pertains to some of these things that we have
negative like perceptions of that just aren't true. Right Anyways,
(26:51):
I hope that made sense.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
But unlearning is still learning.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Ah, there you go, it is still with that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Because I'm going to sit with that. I'm going to
sit with.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
That growth and that's evolving and if we're not evolving,
we're dead.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And learning really is just growth, right, Yes, Yeah, isn't
it so funny? How almost? I mean, we were talking
a little bit offline, but like it's like word choice
(27:30):
in so many of these situations that so many people
are on the same page, but we just use different
words for the but like in our heart, we're thinking
of the same thing, like whether you say prayer or
meditation or growth or learning or the universe or God
or like, it's kind of like we're all coming from
(27:51):
a similar place and I think we're talking about similar things,
but we let word choice put up walls.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Yeah, I think just sometimes we I include myself and
whatever the category, whatever the topic, whatever the you know,
the belief that I've had for a very long time,
or maybe just I didn't even know I believed it,
but first came from somewhere that I just feel very
strongly about one thing or another. And then we just
we have fear around it because we're like, I don't
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really know if I'm supposed to be into this, but
parts of me are telling me that it's probably fine.
Or actually, let's say it is okay. Is it really
that big of a deal or does it affect me?
Or is it my business or is it my place?
Or is that something I even need to take up
and be concerned with.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
And I think.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
When we do get wrapped around that stuff, it is
coming from a place of fear, and I really would
like to come from a place of love.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
And really everything boils down to fear or love.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
That's one thing that I have been working through a
lot lately. Any of my behavior, even my outburst that
I was talking about, looking back on how that unfolded,
because again I brought it up to my therapist, I
was reacting out of a place of fear.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I actually do know. Really we were able to get
to the root of it. I was sort of acting
like I don't even know where that came from.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Who how does that happen? Even I said the F word.
There was multiple people in my house too. I don't
do that. And then also my son was in the room.
Later I had to go talk to him. I think
my sister and her husband were in town too. I
had to go leave the room because I was on
the phone. I was actually on the phone with Ben
(29:32):
and I had to leave the room, and then luckily
my sister and Ben went over to Stevens and they
were explaining like, hey, sometimes.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
You know, we just say these things.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
And when I think back on the conversation, and then
Ben and I even revisited it later too, is it
was for sure I was coming from fear. And Ben
knows this too. He's working on the fear love thing
as well. And when you're going through and navigating a divorce,
there's a lot that comes up that's very scary. And
(30:01):
we have really tried hard to come from a place
of love and let's be thoughtful and kind through this
entire process. Did I tell you what his lawyer, Zophie
said to me?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
So I was there signing some stuff and the woman
working I don't know if she was paralegal or what.
She wasn't his actual lawyer, but she works worked closely
on the thing, and she's like, I know that we
represent Bin, but I told this to him too. We've
never seen anything like this, and you and Ben should
(30:34):
probably teach a class on how to get divorced because
we have just been I guess we're like the Unicorns.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Set off podcast How to Get divorced the right way,
which I mean I will say, like, I come from
a blended family and my parents are together, but they
each had children before getting together, having me and my
little brother, and I've watched how well they've navigated co
parenting and kind of going through blending families in a
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really beautiful way.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And then I had friends whose parents went through divorces
and it was hell, Like it wasn't that way. So
I do think there's something to be said about people
that as intentional as you guys are being in the
process choosing love and respect, and probably could teach a
masterclass because I think a lot of people unfortunately let
their emotions run it and then it turns out to
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be something uglier than it has to be.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Well, and even just the thought of divorce as a Christian,
there's so much even having thoughts about that, like the
judgment even that I had for myself, or this idea
that I never thought that would happen for me because
it wasn't an option, because I mean, my parents got
divorced and then I just never wanted to be a
part of that. I didn't want that to be my narrative.
(31:54):
But also I had stamped it as that is bad. Yep,
that is my dog. Keeps snort if you hear like
that is my dog, it is not me.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
And so you know, that's.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Another thing where people have this mindset of like, Okay,
this is good and this is bad, and it's my
job to tell you that you're bad now. And I
am so thankful that I was able to not worry
about any of that. Ben and I both and we
were able to kind of do what we needed to
do to reset and without judgment for ourselves because we
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both grew up at the same type of church and
that was not obviously encouraged. I mean, I think they
would have still loved people that came there divorcing me,
and they actually had a lot of people that would
show my mom and they started going to church after
my parents split up. We went like on Easter and Christmas.
But then when my dad left, my mom got invited
to a Bible study and she kind of was like, Eh,
(32:52):
it's kind of crazy, I don't want to go. And
then she, I guess, got to a place where she
was desperate and she decided to all her friend back
and say, hey, yeah, I'll go to the Bible study
and she went and that's where she found Jesus and
found her faith and started falling to her knees and
had her morning prayer time every morning. She was very,
(33:12):
very dedicated and committed. But I think that's what got
her through all of that. And there's no harm or
foul to anybody that we grew up with at that church.
I know they meant well, but it was extremely conservative.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
What was it legalistic?
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah? Same, So so I mean, like we're talking about stillness,
and I'm thinking as you're saying that, so I had
some things, you know, similar to my childhood where me
being in church, I felt a lot of shame, which
was kind of this juxtaposition because I genuinely loved the
Lord and felt like the Lord was my safe place.
(33:49):
But I was going to church quote unquote for the
Lord and feeling that shame. But what I would always
do growing up, and it's still the thing I do
today to get still is I go out. Of course
I grew up on a ranch, but like into the country.
Like I literally will walk out into a pastor by
myself and just stand there. It's almost like I can
(34:10):
get my breathing synchronized with the wind and then you
just kind of like everything calms and everything quiet, and
then it's like everything's good. And so it's funny you're
saying that, because like there were times that I was
in church feeling shame, but then I would go home
and I'd go out into the woods or I'd go
out into the pastors whatever, and it's like I was
(34:33):
going out there to find the Lord and be reminded
that what I'm feeling is not God, because again God
is for me.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah safe, yeah, right. Anyways, but it really helped the
judgment from the humans.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
But it came it was like, as I'm sitting here
thinking about it and processing that, I had to go
get still, like I would have to go out into
nature because it forced me to find peace and quiet,
and into peace and quiet, I felt the love of
the Lord and I still to this day do. I mean,
it's like if you follow me on Instagram, like you'll
(35:03):
see a million sunset pictures because it's like I go
out and do my thing and I'm like, oh, this
is beautiful with your picture.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Do you ever take your shoes off or get bear sometimes?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Like yeah, I don't do that a lot, but I
think there's something to be said about that and being
in nature, Like, we are a part of God's design.
It's a beautiful design and the more we can get
like not talking about synchronicity all the time, but like
I think we are very much a part of that
architecture that is Mother Nature in the way the Lord
(35:35):
designed us. Yeah, I find great peace and great I
guess the word today is stillness, but serenity when I
can get outside.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
It's just a memory just popped up of me on
the Bobby Bone Show in the early days with like Elena.
I feel like we had a girl group and we
were called serenity or something. I have not thought of
this in like forever.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I wonder if that's is that an archive thing they.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Can dig be on YouTube except for when we moved
to Nashville. We kind of wiped everything from YouTube before Nashville.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
So great, Oh it was really good stuff. Yeah, there's
really good.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Especially your creative video.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
So when it comes to being unsure about things or
not really knowing or accepting or trying to figure out, Oh,
I don't know, am I open to this? Am I
reacting this because of fear or love? That's how some
people feel about my cousin, my second cousin, Amanda, and
I even had a little bit of, like, if I'm
being honest, like some fear of her joining my podcast network,
(36:40):
even though I love her and I've had her on
the podcast and I support her, and who am I
to say what gifts she has or doesn't have? And
you know, she also talks to my mom for me
and sends me messages, so I'm like, thank you. Yeah,
But in my stillness, I might be able to get
there too. And I truly see my mom as one
(37:02):
of my spirit guides, and that's who's shown up for
me the most. I know my dad has passed away too,
but whenever I do prayers and meditations like that, it's
always my mom. Maybe my dad will show up leaar.
But I don't know exactly how Amanda does, but she does.
But I do believe that she has a gift. She's
(37:23):
been very right about like a lot of things. And
she joined my network and her first full episode went
up yesterday. So like my episodes will come out on
I'll come out on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and hers are
going to be every Wednesday, like everyone has their days.
Cats you need Therapy is Monday and Wednesday, and then
(37:44):
Truthiest Life is Friday, and anyway, list goes on, which
I am very excited about two other women that are
joining the network in June.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Do you know, I don't think I know.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Okay, they're good. You're gonna love when I'm very excited. Okay,
you'sh they're probably.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
So.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Amanda's launched and her name's Amanda Rieger Green and her
podcast is called Soul Sessions with Amanda Riga Green, and
she really can also help you tap into your highest potential.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
So like, maybe you're not even into the whole.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Medium, psychic type stuff, numerology, astrology, She's into it all.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Maybe you're not.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
That's not for you, I will say, I think there's
still stuff you could get from what she has to say.
She's very wise, she has a big heart. She identifies
as a Christian, but she also is open to all faiths.
Like eventually you'll hear her explain how all of that
works in her mind or in her beliefs. But her
(38:47):
podcast is out, and I'm just I'm sort of stuttering
around it because I guess this is the first time
I've said publicly that like she came to me and said,
I want to do a podcast, And I thought, okay.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Well, all right, I have a network and I'm her cousin,
so I guess because it's probably going to come here.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
But then, you know, we had real conversations of like
I thought, shoot, what are people going to think? Like
I don't want for people to get turned off or
But then I was like, you know what, that is
not my business, not my place.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
I love my cousin.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I supported her in other ways, so why would I
turn away from her in this giving her an opportunity
and a platform to share her gifts and let her
do her thing. If I were to hold back from that,
I feel like that would be me operating out of fear.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
And I'm more.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Open to all kinds of things than I've ever been,
just because I've been through so much.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
I've seen so much.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
And again, I don't want to operate out of fear,
and I don't want to project, and I don't want
to call out things, and I don't want to be
a part of judgment, Like I want to operate from love,
and the most loving thing I could do as a
cousin would say, Hey, I had a network and I'll
hook you up with Fazzio and iHeart will back you,
and you know you've got you know, Houston will help
(40:07):
produce you and edit things and we're good.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Yep, so here we are.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
And if you're you realize that she joined my network
and you stop listening to us, well, okay, goodbye.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
I don't know. You probably don't listening to.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
This well, And I would just encourage anyone like So,
I've had a lot of side conversations with Fozzio and
you know, I'm like, again, I identify as a Christian
and follow Jesus, but I'm excited to set up a
meeting with her because I've met her before. She's a delight,
but you can also tell she's very educated, she's very sharp.
And it's like, why would I, like just because I'm
(40:42):
not comfortable with it? Why would I not hear her out?
Why would I not listen and learn something new? And
it's like, I think you can go into it believing
what you believe and be okay. No one's trying to
like convert you or do anything crazy. But she is
incredibly sharp, and so I'll say it at minimum, if
it kind of if you are weary, I think you'll
(41:02):
be you'll be entertained and educated in some way. And
I think I've heard just a little bit of it,
and I'm I'm impressed.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
I'm thrilled for all Right, Well, I'm going to play
a clip from the episode that went up yesterday about
intuitive development because I think it's in alignment. Coincidentally or
is it on purpose? I don't know, was it like syncreticity.
I know she's talking about intuitive development.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
Intuitive development just so you know, at least on my part,
is just as much about connecting with God and whatever
faith you hold or have, how little, how small, whatever
religious ideologies you align with, this fits. This is about
deepening your connection, better knowing yourself and better feeling and
(41:53):
living that part of you that's connected to the divine.
And again, it takes practice. It takes courage, it takes
building muscles, it takes dedication, repetition, sometimes a framework, but
it also takes talking about it, having people, having a
community where you find things that resonate with you and
(42:15):
you're able to share those experiences, you're able to practice,
and you get curious, you have fun. It's also about
fun because it's about self exploration ultimately and that's another
piece to what this podcast is about.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Okay, Chase, you're gonna go listen to the whole episode now,
are you are?
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Like? Yes, basically what we've been talking about.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
And I encourage y'all to check out Amanda if you
want to. If you don't, it's not your thing. Someone
already left like a one star like review, and it's like,
why what is wrong with people?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Don't they know?
Speaker 5 (42:50):
If you don't have anything nice to say, just say
it or we can also take feedback and constructive criticism,
but like, why are you going to make it on
a public platform like send us a h's a email
or DMP or something. And Amanda's instagram is at soul Pathology.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Do you follow her?
Speaker 4 (43:09):
No? But I probably will right now.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
You'll probably start and then you'll like and subscribe. And
then my cryocats is the one that told me about
the one star review she goes, So I went ahead
and I wrote a review and I gave five stars.
She's like trying to counter the bad which I am
working on. I was about to say I'm very bad
at but you know, oh, we don't speak that way.
(43:32):
So what I need to work on is reminding listeners
here that if you do like an episode, well, first
of all, say, if you do have feedback, you can
email me four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
If you have liked an episode or you enjoy the podcast,
it is helpful to go leave five stars or leave
(43:52):
a review and start adding those up. I rarely mention that,
and there's I feel like Oprah on Super Soul Conversations.
She says it every time, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Oprah, then you got to go Oprah.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
It's good or you know, I see other What I
see in my mind is really huge successful podcasts that
do it. And I'm like, well, if they ask for it,
I can ask for it, and I should actually ask
for it with confidence because why not?
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
So go leave that review.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
If you want to, if you want to, no pressure. Well, Chase,
thank you for joining. Why don't you throw out where
people can find you, especially I personally and professionally.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
And professionally on Instagram at Chase lock Underscore. Professionally you
can find us at One Country.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
And you and your friend Patrick.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Oh yeah, we have a podcast, Chase and Patrick Show,
which is wherever you listen.
Speaker 6 (45:02):
To just interview Parker McCollum.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, we had Parker. It was on Cinco de Miles,
so I asked for forgiveness. We we had some margaritas beforehand,
so I wasn't too proud for that interview.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
You're a Christian and you had I know, it's.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
A fine line.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
Stevenson's in here right now and he he I knew
he was going to say that. I'm trying to explain
to him just if an adult has one glass of
wine or one margarita, that does not equal get And
that's literally what He's laying on the couch. And he
looked at you and he goes, did you get drunk?
It is tricky to understand that. I was just trying
(45:44):
to I was having a glass of wine the other
night and Steven's looked at me, he goes, are you
getting drunk? And I was like, no, I'm having one
glass of wine and it was probably a three ounce
poor you know, because sometimes I can do a nine
ounce poor. Hey.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
We got to look out for one another. I Stevenson, Yep.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
That's it, got my back.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Nine outs.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
This wouldn't get me drunk either.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Maybe some people, I'm not sure, but no, it's like
it would have to be a lot more than that.
People have different tolerance and twelve ounces.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Maybe I know welcome to my life.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
So but we try to talk openly and honestly about
all kinds of things, like I don't want to hide.
I feel like my mom drank well once she became
she found Jesus. At our church that we went to,
people didn't drink really at all. If they did, they
called it purple coffee and they would coffee. They would
drink it out of a coffee mug, and my mom
(46:45):
was gonna My mom would say, oh, we're just gonna
hollow purple coffee. And I'm like, okay, I am not
doing this to my children. I am saying, yes, I
am having wine. I am an adult and I can
have this. And one day, when you're an adult, we'll
see if that's that's what you want.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
To do too. But you no pressure either way. I'm
not making it like a thing.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Hey, just if you this complete sidebarb, but if you
need a little bit of joy in your life today,
I still will YouTube that Ellen clip of the lady
that I love Jesus, but I drink a little. It's
an old like that still makes me laugh out loud.
So if you're looking for a laugh, courage right now.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Okay, I can have Houston put it in. So Houston,
let's play that.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Oh she's so funny.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Play that right now. Listen.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'll be honest with you. Yeah, I love Jesus, but
I drink a little.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
So there was the Ellen clip. Thank you for that laugh,
Chase and impromptu laugh. And we'll leave with a suggestion
from Stevenson's in season here. He actually put on meditation
before bed the other night.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
From you know where YouTube.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
This family loves YouTube, and it was what was it
called fall asleep Fast with God's Word.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
So there you go, good one, a Christian meditation. But
I mean you can do. I love Gabby's.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
I love other ones that I just randomly, Oh, like,
you know what I need to type in that one
guy that I told you that I've been falling asleep to.
I'm going to get it right now, Chase filibuster. While
I find this.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Filibuster just well, I mean, what are are you supposed
to end it with? What you're grateful for?
Speaker 6 (48:28):
Four things? Gratitude?
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Go oh me?
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Oh man, I thought I was gonna send it to you.
I mean, I will say I'm really thankful for our team,
the good folks that I work with. I have to
continue working to get better at letting people help me,
and they are incredibly supportive people and I'm lucky to
work with them every day. Am I doing four?
Speaker 6 (48:48):
Yep? That was one?
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Okay, I'll say my partner Patrick, who I work with,
who amy knows and is comical and keeps things lively.
It's awesome when you get a like do business with
one of your best buddies. I'm thankful for summer. Like again,
I like to be outdoors and I was ready for
the seasons to change, and so walking outside and the
(49:11):
sunshine and warmer weather. Grateful for that. And then honestly, like,
not to be cheesy, but I'm grateful for where you're.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
At because you went through very cheesy.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I know, but you've gone You've gone through a season
that at times you know we've all been praying for you.
But it's it's great. And again hearing you be confident
in where you're at and it's awesome. So I'm grateful
for that too.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
All right, First thing for me, I'm grateful for you
to come over and have this conversation because I think
it's I think it's a good one.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
I think it's important.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
It's one I want to be having with my friends,
and so here we are having it on the podcast.
A second thing would be Steven Simmons Tashira. I'm very
thankful for both of them and the joy that they
are my life. We all were hanging out on my
bed last night talking and joking about things.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Wasn't that fun? No, we weren't. Okay, I know this
was awesome.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
No, we were talking about how to share wants to
write a book, and I'm really excited to see that
potentially come to life. We're putting that out there, we're
surrendering that. See what happens. And then she wants to
go to Japan, and then you know, Stevenson has lots
of thoughts on asteroids that are going to hit the earth.
Like we just have normal conversations like before bedtime, and
(50:39):
then that's my second thing. Third thing would be my
dog Kara, who is just very She's cuckoo bananas, but
we love her right she is. Something is up with her.
She barks a lot and has a lot of anxiety.
But also I'm pulling at my hair right now too,
which means I also have anxiety. So maybe she is
(51:00):
picking up on my anxiety. All my fault, this is
all me.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Maybe you're picking up on hers something.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Ooh, yeah, that's not a bird.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
But Stevenson's very into roasting people and burn and then
he'll try to roast and it won't.
Speaker 6 (51:18):
I'm like, is that you roasting? Because that wasn't even hardcore.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
I love it, Stevenson.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
And then my fourth thing will be the guy I
found the meditation that I've the sleep meditation music that
I've been listening to where he's like, good evening. My
name is Jason Stevenson. Stevenson, My Stephenson is with a V,
he's with a pH.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Southern No.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
I think he's like British or Australian. Jason's he's trying
to follow your accents.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
Yes, and also I'm trying to go to sleep, but
he's like, you're walking through the forest.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
I don't know, you'll see.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
But he has three point four million subscribers.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Hey, I'm going to listen to it tonight.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
So some of his videos tons and tons of views.
Can you hear that?
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah? That one was fine.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
Yeah, it's glad to sleep meditation.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
A practice that will help you in falling asleep quickly
and easily. Jason Stevenson, and whether you are and wherever
you are, I only welcome.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
You to this practice.
Speaker 6 (52:25):
He normally welcomes you. But see how he says his
name every time. I'm Jason Steve Tonight. Those good. He's
all different.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
You can click on if you want one for like
I said, there's miracles. You can have one for limiting beliefs.
You can have one for creating abundance in your life.
Speaker 6 (52:43):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
I'm not a brain expert, but like, the reason why
I want to listen to it when I'm sleeping is
I feel like somewhere because it runs for like three hours,
so I don't know my my subconscious brain is absorbing
whatever Jason Stephenson is telling me, and.
Speaker 6 (53:00):
I feel I feel like I.
Speaker 5 (53:05):
Am I'm getting the information and therefore I'm open to
the miracles because you know, we can block stuff, and
I don't want to block it. So if my sleepy
brain is going to absorb it, which I think is,
it's a good time. That's the brain state you want
to absorb things in, like just before you're going to
(53:25):
sleep and then like right when you wake up or something.
I don't know, not a brain expert here, but I
want my brain to receive that. It's almost like I'm
brainwashing myself at night.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
And it also is kind of like the one point
in the day when your body forces yourself to get
still and you can receive things right when you're going
to sleep, Like you're getting really still as you enter.
Speaker 5 (53:49):
Right, did you know that when you're sleeping there's a
part in the process where your brain is like, Okay,
I don't know if it sounds like this, well, I'll
be my brain real quick or your brain. All right,
this is the time of the night where we start
to decide what memories we want to keep and what
memories we want to throw away.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Like think of how many things you see in a day, Yeah,
a lot, and then you.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Don't when you wake up the next day, you don't remember,
you know, the one hundred cars you pass on the highway.
You might remember the one yellow one for some reason,
or the huge truck that almost hit you, or the
rock that flew out of a truck.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
And hit your windshield. But those are the memories you
chose to keep.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Yeah, and there's people and encounters and different things, and
it's like some of the stuff, quite honestly, that my brain.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
Chooses to keep I wish it would like go up.
I'm like, gosh, could.
Speaker 5 (54:37):
We Why are we holding onto that one? And then
and Kat and I have talked about this on the
fifth thing, like every time you recall a memory, certain
elements of it change if time has gone by, or
you're retelling it in a different way, maybe someone's tone
and the story changes or your version changes. Are a
word here or a word there, you know, and then
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he gets filed back in your brain that way, and
then you bring it back up again and it gets
to and then you file it back away that way.
And so really, over time memory, our memories are not
accurate at all, and especially a lot of stuff from
our childhood, I don't even know sometimes if it's actually
a memory I have, or something that my family told me,
(55:21):
or I watched a video of it, or I saw
a picture and then I thought I was.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
There and then created a narrative that is now the memory.
Speaker 6 (55:29):
Right, Yeah, Okay, now my daughter's in here, this is
a family affair. What do you need?
Speaker 5 (55:34):
She just walked in and goes mind blown. Why is
your mind blown?
Speaker 4 (55:38):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (55:39):
She's like, y'all are still talking? She goesn't mind blown?
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Okay, she has a French exam tomorrow and she needs
me to study, although I am very ready for Jason Stevens.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Hey, you're close, You're not far, You're not far.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
Okay, all right, Thank you, Chase, and thank you everybody
if you're still listening to this.
Speaker 6 (56:00):
Ow wow wow wow. Okay we should we should divide
this into two parts. Okay.
Speaker 5 (56:06):
I am at Radio Amy on Socials and radiome dot.
Speaker 4 (56:10):
Com and would love for you to leave a review.
Speaker 6 (56:13):
Yeah, five stars.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (56:15):
If anything less than that, just send me an email. Goodbye.
Speaker 5 (56:18):
All right, now, like everybody's in here, so let's all
say bye on the count of three. Hold on the
count of three, one, two, three bye.
Speaker 6 (56:29):
Okay, we need to work on that. Okay. Bye,
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