Abby Anderson (@abbyandersonmusic) sat down with Bobby Bones to open up about her musical transformation and determination to stay authentic. Abby moved to Nashville when she was just 17 and got a record deal shortly after but felt like she was compromising her true self just to make others happy. She shared the struggles she went through and why she had no fear of leaving her last record deal. She also admits there was a time she almost quit music but thankfully stuck with it and now loves the songs she's creating. Abby also opened for Stevie Nicks last year and shares her experience opening for one of her idols! She also shares a story on how she found out her friend's uncle is Chris Issak and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Every time I've taken that to God, and it was
just like, I don't know that this is my path
anymore if I need to keep going to let me know.
It was just this rush a piece that I got
in the words where you Gotta keep going?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four point thirty three with Abby Anderson. Abby's awesome.
Known her for a long time. Not to be confused
with Abby from our show, who is Abby Lee Anderson,
which is why she should have put the lie in
because of this Abby Anderson. But Abby is from South Lake, Texas.
She moved to Nashville when she was seventeen, one of
seven kids, second oldest. She began piano lessons at about
(00:42):
five years old, and her interest to country music comes
from her mom, who comes from a family of country
music singers and they just generally loved country music there.
So Abby's been through it. She came to Nashville, got
a record deal, left that record deal independent for a
long time, now has kind of a new label deal going.
But she's awesome. I think you're gonna love her. If
(01:03):
you don't know her, you're gonna love her. After this interview,
let me play a little bit of Heart on Fire
in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Smell, best smile.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Name is with to sen it on And here's a
little bit of the reason I stay.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You Betty Go, the reason I'm crazy lettly Yo, the
reason crap you reason.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Lenny on Instagram and TikTok. Abby Anderson Music enjoy one
of my favorites. Here she is Abby Anderson. Are you comfortable?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm so great?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Are you good?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, he's good to see you too, good to see
you too. When's the last time we saw each other?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Twenty twenty one?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
No way, yeah, huh.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You had me on this Maybe it was the beginning
of twenty twenty two, because you have me on the show. Yeah,
out of your mind, because I made you put me
on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That can't be true that it's been that long.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah huh. I think so. Maybe I've seen you in passing.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And maybe, But I think maybe it's social media too,
where I follow you so I see what you're up to,
so I feel like I see you all the time.
Maybe that's it. No, no, no, no, When did you
go do shows with me? Was that before even twenty
That was twenty nineteen? Really?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh yeah, you were making fun of my crop tops
and everything. I still storm over there, man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess COVID just kind of erased memories, rased years
for memories.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I know. I'm trying to give my I still try
to give myself grace for.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That, for what for what? But no, I talked to you.
I've talked to you though even I haven't seen you.
Speaking of that, I remember you. We talked on the
phone once when you were making music, So that counts.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I was asked I needed some guidance, Yeah you're waking out.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, yes, so that counts even though I didn't see
you like I guess. My point is I genuinely like you,
and we spent enough time together. We spent enough time
to where I feel like like I know you even
if I don't see you for a year and a
half or so.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So not exactly mysterious, So pretty easy to.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Know that is true. You're not mysterious. What do you do?
I have a lot of, like, you know, questions about
what we're gonna talk about, but like, what do you
do for if? Because I was just at home, I
had like thirty minutes we'd been doing the show, we
went and recorded another video basketball show, had like thirty
minutes just to sit If you have that. What do
you do if you have thirty minutes or an hour
(03:33):
to sit? Like what is your I'm gonna chill for
a second activity.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You're gonna laugh at me because it's hippie dippy, but
it helps me so much. Deep breathing, Like if I
have thirty minutes to just dream, I take it and
I'm like, I'm gonna put my phone.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Away like meditation type.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I guess so yeah, like praying slash, I love writing
in my journal. I just love visualizing and like my
self dream. I'm like, if I didn't have any fear
of me right now, what would I do? And I
just practice visualizing that feeling, that emotion, and I feel
like that's changed so much for me.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Do you feel like that helps you? And when did
you start focusing on that?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Like probably last summer really twenty twenty three summer.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Why why did you start going down that?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I was just tired of being where I was, And
I don't know if you've ever felt like this, like I've.
I felt like I saw the person I wanted to
be and she was within reach, and I was like,
I know I have that potential and I get really
really frustrated when for some reason, I feel like I
can't reach my potential. And that's like my biggest fear
(04:44):
in life is not reaching my full potential. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Reading this book called The Power of Now, and it's
all about the you know, part of it's the ego
and what we the past in the future or what
define the ego, what we think about what we used
to be and what we hope that we can be,
or what the pressures we put on ourselves to be.
And the whole book is like focusing on right now
(05:11):
because that's the only thing you can actually affect And
it's a lot of what you're saying too, like just stopping,
slowing down, closing your eyes, sitting up though, because if
you lay back you'll fall asleep. I've fell into that trap.
Ye are good, Yeah, but not if you're actually trying.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
To well, maybe maybe you need a nap.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh I always need a nap. Maybe I'm just talking
to me. Then I always don't sleep. I don't sleep
that much. So where did you learn to do this?
Did you just start going I'm going to take deep
breaths or did you read it somewhere or did you
have a friend that was like, hey, if you'll just
because I do the breathing as well now because I've
(05:51):
been taught. Hey, the first thing you can do is
just focus on your breathing, because what that does is
that takes your mind off of everything else. Yeah, so
as much as you're breathing, and it's good to put
auction in your blood, the physical part of it. But
if you focus on your breathing, you at least for
a bit, stop focusing on all the things that can
be botheredome or stressful or why and how did you
(06:12):
notice start doing that?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So I learned it from a vocal coach back in
like twenty nineteen again, and she always she taught me
the importance of diaphragmatic.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Breathing so to sing to sing, got it?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And then I was like, man, when I do this though,
I feel great, and I feel like, like the past
few years, it's just been a lesson of tapping back
into what I want and listening to myself and listening
to my gut. I've always had a strong gut instinct.
I just got really bad at listening to it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Who's the person you want to be?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Who did you see that you didn't feel like you
were but you could actually get there. What was different
about her?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Wait? Say that again.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, you said you saw the person that you could
be really free.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So it's free and fearless, and you don't think you're that.
I think I'm getting there. I think I'm pretty damn close.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
My perception of you is that you are very free.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think at times we can seem fearless, but it
doesn't mean we actually are.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
No, I'm still scared. I think a lot of times.
I think for a while I was like even scared
of I don't mean this in a cocky way. I
think I was scared of how powerful I know I am,
because because then I'm calling the shots and then everything's
on me.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And then if you failed, then then if you fail,
then it's your fault.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And I can't blame anybody. It's not any label president's fault,
it's not the A and r's fault, it's not the
pretty It's me.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Did you so you were with a label for a while.
I was with the same label for a while. Yeah.
And when you went independent and you left the label,
was there a fear that you couldn't be successful without
a label or was there more of a fear? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Really no fear it was. I think what it was was,
I was just so excited to throw paint at the
wall and I think what I made next. That was
back in twenty twenty one. That is when I emailed
you and I was like, hey, listen to this please,
cause I was Yeah, I was scared because I was like, dang,
this is I feel like I'm seventeen again, moving to town,
(08:20):
like truly creating the stuff I believed in that I
freaking loved and that was fun and I was like, Okay,
I don't really care what this does. That was the
first time in a long time that I felt like
I'm creating music I love. I don't care what it does.
Hopefully people like it. Like I wouldn't be an artist
if I made music just for me. Of Course I
(08:42):
want people to hear. Of course I want people to
enjoy it. And it's still I write it cause I
have to. And that was the first time in a
minute where I was like, I don't care if people
like this. And luckily they did, and I'd like to
think I'm getting better and better and better at that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
What do you mean they liked it? Just data streams?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, just like my fans like that. I've never
had that reaction from my people before, and they weren't
concerned about the sound per se. I think they could
just see the light in me and the fire in
me and the passion behind it. Like it's so much
more fun promoting a song that when you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Believe it, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Gosh, Like I didn't know what that felt like. Yeah,
it's like, damn, I've been fake as hell this time.
So I'm like, if I can be that good promoting
something with a fake smile, imagine how much more fun
it's gonna be when it's real.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So when you're putting out this record, we're talking about now,
this this body of music, and you put it out
and it does in your mind, it makes you feel good.
You're fulfilled by the reaction that it got. So does
it make you enjoy now being with a label that
would give you a bit of your own autonomy or
(09:55):
it's like, aren't you signed? Now it's somebody a different virgin.
So it's been awesome legit label. Yeah, And that's what
I was. My point was, now, do you have a
bit more of understanding of what you want and you'll
actually ask for it instead of just having them tell
you this is your sound, you will do this for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I think I think I needed that moment after
the first label deal, to be truly, truly independent, to
stand on my own two feet, and I'll take the
heat in that way. And now I don't think any
label would come to me and assume that any any differently,
that I wouldn't present the music I loved. Like now,
(10:37):
you couldn't tell me, you couldn't tell me what to say.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And you wouldn't have been able to tell you then
when you left your first label, that hey, this is
actually going to be for the great, not just for
the good, but for the great, because you almost needed
that break to understand why you were breaking. Yeah, to understand.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That's a great way. I needed a break to understan
and why I was so miserable and that sucked.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And you probably were a bit even more miserable for
a minute.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh, Bobby, I got so depressed after I left. And
that's an interesting question. I wonder why, Because I got
what I wanted. I wanted to be free, and then
once I was free, I almost quit. I almost quit.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Why not? Why didn't you quit? Like? What what was
the little pep talk you had with yourself where you're.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh, I'm terrible at pep talks with myself. I would
like crap on my shelf. It's like that was I
think that was God.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There was that like God.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Isn't God's inside of us? I believe that, but like
it was just that gut tug that was like, you're
not done yet. And every time I've taken that to
God and was just like, I don't know that this
is my path anymore. I don't know that this is
for me if it If it is, can you let
me know if I need to keep going? Can you
(11:59):
let me know instantly? It'll just be like it was
just this rush a piece that I got and the
words were you gotta keep going, just keep going.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Was very glad it did anything artistic that you did
once you decided that you were going to keep going,
that kind of revitalized you. Any specific art that you
made music.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think it was that it's called Sugar Spice, that
nine song project and I have Bad Posture on it.
Once I wrote Bad Posture and that was released in
twenty twenty two, and that was with Marshall Altman, who
was like he just provided such a great cocoon for
me to like recover, and I needed to recover. I
needed to recover the artist in me to feel fearless
(12:42):
again and get back to that seventeen year old Abby.
I'm like, you couldn't tell that girl shit. She strolled
into town, had no idea about like how hard he
was to get a record deal, and she got one
in two years because she said she would. I was like,
I want to That girl was a dreamer and she
just made it happen by asking for it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
She was a dreamer, and that's we aspire to have,
at least I do at times aspire to have some
of that that I call it like dumb deer face
where you just don't you don't know if you just go.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's like a kid, you just don't.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
However, you want that again. But you've had to go
through some hard times, so you're actually way more mature
in part of you as well.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'd like to think you have to be.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Anytime you go through adversity, you either get stronger you die. Yeah,
and you got a lot stronger in this case. That
Bad Posture song was so good, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I still love that song.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I loved that song. Did your people really like
that song? Was that one that resonated? That was? I mean,
I think we played that on that like the I
heard women show that I programmed you if that says
such a good song.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And I needed that. I needed that one.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I was watching your Instagram it's been a while now,
and I saw you do this song and you were like,
my grandma.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Heard on fire in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, yeah, And I watched probably one of the first
times you posted it, and you were and you may
have to retell me the story, but like my grandma
met somewhere over in a place like an island or something. Okay,
far an island.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
This is a Mexico.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, see whatever, I knew it was something though Mexico
and island they're both warm. I get anything. Okay, So
tell me the story before we talk about this song.
So what happened? How did she tell you the story?
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So, my this is the story I grew up hearing
from my mom. So my mom's half Mexican and my
dad's like whiter than you are.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Why do I have to be the standard for very white?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, it's okay, it's not It's a good it's okay,
and so so me and my sisters. We always grew
up knowing that like Mom's Mexican, she speaks Spanish. There's
like it was just the culture we grew up around.
And and I remember when we were little kids were
like Mom, like where did that come from? And she
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she for the longest time, would not tell us this
story because her childhood was really dramatic. And you know,
and I I hope she writes a book about her story.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Wine, where did she live as a kid?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'll pass it. So anyways, the story goes, my peepa
was in the army and he go he was in
Fort Bliss and back in those days. This again, this
is the story I was told. Okay, we could go
in fact check, but frankly everyone was drunk, and like,
(15:23):
I go back and I asked my granny Joe the
fact like anybody, and everyone's got a different story. This
is the story I graph from my mother. Okay, he's
in Fort Bliss. He goes over with Tajuarez with somebody's
and that's where my nanny was working at a bar.
Gorgeous lady, I mean, stunning, and they meet at a
(15:47):
bar hook up. She gets pregnant.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Wait hook up as in that night, Yeah, first.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Night, that night, first night they I'm pretty surely at
least very early. Anyways, he goes back to the States
not knowing she's pregnant, and has my mom and then
they get back to El Paso. That's what's murky. I
don't understand how they how she went from Juares to
(16:12):
l Passo. That might be. I'll be like, I don't
know if it was legal. I don't know how that happened.
Somehow they ended up in a Passo. Yeah, and my
mom grows up knowing that her father was this army guy,
and long story short, somehow finds him when she's like
nine or ten years old because she needed to get
away from my nanny. She was not like a healthy
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person and finds my people. Wow, and that's like a
whole and her story is incredible. Had he actually knew
so he finds out later. I found this out from
my grandma, Pipau's wife, and she actually told me like, hey,
I don't think your mom realized that people actually went
(17:00):
to go find Yolanda because somehow he found out she
was pregnant and he brought her to San Antonio and
then I think she just wasn't comfortable. There was a
whole different culture and everything.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And she went back, went back, And then.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm like that. And then my mom found him when
she was like nine or ten, like she had like
the neighbor called him and was like, you got to
get to scroll out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Hang tight. The Bobby Cast will be right back, and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Where was your grandpa living.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
In at that time? He was in East Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So stayed in Texas?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Was he from Texas originally?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yep? Texas boy.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So you're right hard on fire in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah. I've always wanted to write my mom a song.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, And how long it taken write that one?
So fast?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It was so fast, like I've always for a long time.
I was like, ma'am, my mom gave me and my
sisters the life she never had. She gave us the
gift of having a mother. And I'm like, that's just
an incredible thing to do. They will give someone something
you've never experienced before. And so I woke up one
day and literally I woke up in those first four lines,
(18:26):
she was a darkhadh was beauty flirting with the Gi
Joe Off beauty work and hippit tips at a bar
in Mexico and I was like whoa. I was like,
thank you God. And I called up my buddy Michael Farren.
I had to write with him schedule that day and
I was like, I'm coming in hot and we have
to write this today, and it was like maybe thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that's rare and awesome. It was rare, especially something
that falls out of you that has longevity in that
you end up keeping it, recording it, being proud out
of it, all of that. Because if I'm doing something
I'm like, oh, this a great idea. Half the time
it's not even that great once they finally get rid
or I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Or falls flat lead yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Or maybe I'm like it falls flat and I'm like,
you know, I just I'm not even gonna pursue it
anymore where maybe I should. But for all of that
to happen and also be a very personal, yeah, that's
really cool.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So what's what's the song that? Like? What is well,
what's your song now that like your focus song, your
single whatever they call it these days?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right now? It's the reason I stay Okay, which I
love that song but still like my like the people
follow Me love that song too, but still it's hard
on fire in Mexico. I feel like I cracked something
inside me when I wrote that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I felt like I watched you play it. Yeah, I
mean I remember just watching the video from when the
first time you put it up, like I felt.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It feels like me.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I didn't rewatch it. I didn't do any like research
on you as parts. I want to watch videos again
because I just see it all the time. But I
remember the first time I watch said I was like,
oh wow, I mean I felt that. Thank you, and
and you know, we're in a land where there's a
lot of that trying to happen, but it's rare that
you really feel something because it's all the time and everywhere.
(20:14):
Oh that's really cool. We should come play that on
the radio show and yeah, that'd be really good and it.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Won't be on piano.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And I've never told you to come on, and then
you not come on.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Dum freaking bob, what I'm gonna tell you?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, But I'm saying no, it's not no. I'm saying
I don't say, hey, you should come on. And then
then I like, don't. Then I like, don't follow yet
when I say it, I mean do It's not like
we should have dinner sometime when people say that. But yes, yeah,
shut up, man, shut up, get off of me. Did
(20:49):
you do shows with Stevie Nicks? Yes, that's what the hell?
That's wild?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It was so dope.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
How did that come together? And what was it like?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So Carl Lewis, who's Stevie Nixon's manager, She's She's become
a great mentor to me. And I met her through
a friend of a friend from Madison, you know in
Nashville works. It's just like Cheryl's Madison's and we're at
a get this. We were at a house party one
night and Madison texts me and she's like, hey, she
(21:20):
knows I'm like a huge Chris Isaac fan, like obsessed
with him. Don't even try. Do You're gonna make me mad?
Don't don't even try.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I was letting our audience know who it was.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
People know. I just am upset, like I feel like
he raised like I grew up listening to his records
with my mom in the car growing up. And she
texted me, she's like, hey, you should come over tonight.
My uncle Chris is here, my aunt Cheryl, and so
I'm thinking like, okay, kid, you not Chris, Isaac, you is.
We're a freaking uncle. And I walked in and I
(21:53):
was like bro. I was like Madison, I said, do
you know? Like, do you know who your uncle is?
I was freaking out. And the last thing I was
gonna do is be like, oh, I'm an order this too,
you know. So I just start asking him questions being
a nerd, and finally he was like, why do you
care so much? And I was like, ah, not, you know,
(22:14):
I sang whatever, And that night we just end up
playing guitar together all night. It was so fun, and
charl was there, and so me and Scherl became really
good friends and I would just ping her every now
and then for advice and business stuff. And then one
day she called me. It was like a year and
a half later probably, and I don't expect anything from anybody,
(22:35):
like I genuinely love her. And she just called me
one day and she's like, hey, sweetie, I was just
wondering if you want to come open for Stevie. I
was like yes, Shirl, I was like yes, I would
love to do that. So we did, Like I think
we had four four or five shows with her and
(22:56):
I want.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
To come back to the shows in a second. But
you are at a house with Chris Isaac just playing
music a guy that you listen to a lot, I
don't know. Tell me about that, and what do you play?
And and how do you like? What's the what's the vibe?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He literally feels like your uncle, but like a legendary uncle.
He's like the most humble, like sweetest man.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm like, it's just fun and that's Madison's uncle. Yep,
did you do?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I don't want to fall in No, I didn't want
to ask him to single. He's probably so tired of
us song. We just played covers.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's cool though.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, do you ever do you ever like see him
ever anymore? I do? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
When I go to when I go to l A,
they'll have me over. He took me to Lululemon, like
we'll go shopping. There's so fun and like Cheryl's like
pushing her dogs everywhere. There's just there like family to meet.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's so fun. I love that man.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So let's talk about going to open for Steven so
she called and said, do you want to do this?
Of course you do. That's amazing. I mean, Fleetwood Mac amazing.
Stevie Nick's amazing first show was what city.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Chic Chicago and or Orlando get Orlando or Chicago.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you remember the like going to the venue that day?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh yeah, it was a big, old arena, sold out arena.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't know if you ever felt like this. And
I hope this doesn't come off in like an arrogant way,
but I remember walking in there being like, hell, yeah,
like this place ain't big enough. Like it just felt
it just it just felt so damn good. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Did you get to meet her before you played?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, I haven't met her.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You didn't meet her, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I've never met I wrote her like a couple of
little notes to saying thank you, and I gave him
to her team. I highly doub our team.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Gave it to her at least put it in front
of her.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Maybe, but I blame them if they did it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know, I'm surprised she didn't say high or something.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, I don't blame her. I mean, the woman's a
freaking legend. She's I mean she's still crushing it every night. Yeah,
oh yeah, and she's just I feel like I learned
from her, like her just standing there is enough, like
just the presence she has and the energy she brings
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to her show. And I learned like, man, I'm enough,
like you know, me just standing there, being present, letting
the audience know I'm happy to be there. That's when
I have my best shows. I don't need to do
a whole bunch of I think I spent a lot
of time trying to prove something, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
To what or to who everybody, just.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Doing too much rather than the thing that comes effortlessly
to me and getting really really good at that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
How much do you play piano in your set?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Ooh, that's that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's how I was introduced to you by way before
I ever kne who you were.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was like the piano player, Yes.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'd never met you.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And because again it was on the same label for
so I had a relationship where they ended up, you know,
buying my way out of it because it's like, I
don't need a label. We do all our own promotion.
And so I kept a good relationship. And I remember
when they had signed you. You were introduced to me
as this amazing singer who's even a better piano player.
So I thought it was like little Mozart or something.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's nice. I mean, I grew up playing Mozart. I
still I'll still pull him out or.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
No, really, because I've never seen a version of you
with the classically trained No.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean, if you asked me to play off memory
right now, I probably couldn't. It would be pretty choppy. No.
In my set, it's probably I'll take a little acoustic.
It depends how long the set is. But I like
to be mean just the audience. But those shows were acoustic,
so it's just me. I brought my guitar player, Chad,
and I'd probably roll. I mean, we got like eight
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song seven songs. I probably rolled four of those on piano,
and then I just get bored. I don't want to
stand behind the piano the whole time. Feels like I'm
you know, I like, I imagine me wanting attention. I
just like being up front.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Do you feel most comfortable instrument wise with the piano, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
For sure. It's just like I don't have to think
about it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That would be so cool.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You're a guitar player though.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
No I'm not. But I took lessons on pian I'm
not a good guitar player. I'll play well enough to
be able to do comedy. Not good. I can't sing either,
but I sing, you.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Know I got to be he's good.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh, you gotta be as confident. Honestly, if you trick
people into thinking you're good, sometimes they're like, I guess
he's believe you're Like, well, I guess this is good.
He looks like he's thinks he's good, so why not
believe it? Yeah? So I took piano lessons as an adult.
Really struggled. Really, I was probably.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Were they teaching you theory though? Or were they teaching
you like how to read notes?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
That second one? Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well that's yeah. You would love theory theory just taking
so essentially just taking what you already know on guitar
and just laying it flat on a keyboard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't know enough on guitar to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
M you would you anyone can pick up the National
number system easy. I'm actually teaching my husband right now. Yeah,
it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
The National numbers system is interesting because I've recorded enough
music to hear them all doing it. Yeah quickly too.
They'll pull up the sheet and be like all right
one one four three three, And I have no idea,
but I'm like, yeah, that's good. I like that. Yeah,
one four three three, Yeah, that that seems to work.
Could you have been a pianist? I think so if
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you would have focused on that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That was my dream. Initially. It was like when I
was eight, I would I was classically trained and would
travel Texas doing piano competitions.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh you woul compete it? Wow?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I was such a nerve bob. I still am a nerd,
but yeah, when I was really little, my piano teacher,
like we thought we were on the road to going
for Juilliard, and I thought that's where I needed to
go to like do music.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I just don't think that's a nerd thing. I think
that's an awesome thing. Like I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I was homeschooled on top of that, so we can
argue what's nerdy ones.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
The homeschool thing is and I knew that. And also
you look like your sisters. I mean it's crazy, right,
do you see it? Because sometimes people can't see when
they like my sister, People say, you guys look like
kind of or not really? Do you see it?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh, like half of us are. It's funny because me
and Avery, they call us like we're like the two
brown ones. Like that's where my mom's side of the
family comes out. And then my two twin sisters. It's
like unfair, how gorgeous they are because they got like
my mom's dark hair, my dad's blue eyes, and that
olive skin. And then yeah, but we I think we're
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all we.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All look super like how many total brothers sisters?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Seven of us and the six girls. One boy and
he's he's he's our obb only baby boy.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
The seventh was the only boy. Yeah, were they were
your parents gonna keep trying until no.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So he actually and I don't want to say, he's
only like thirteen, so I don't want to tell too
much of his story. But we adopted him.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
He was adopted and it was one of those things
where he's actually like my third or fourth cousin, but
he is my.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Brother, but he's also still in the family.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh anyway, Oh, he's my brother, like we got him.
I remember my mom just came home with him. He
was like two weeks old and we're just obsessed with him.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Does your sisters do they like your husband?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh, oh my gosh, everybody's got crush on my husband.
They won't admit it. Everybody's got a little crush on
my husband.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
What's he like when he's around all your sisters?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Oh? Man, what is he like? He's just he's just
he's really good at taking jokes. Like we're pretty mean
when we I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
If you're like you make fun of each other, but
how you show you love each other.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
We make so much fun of each other, like we
just freaking don't know how to stop. And Tyler's really really,
really great at taking a joke, like he can laugh
at himself. He'll fire one bag. My little sister Avery
and him, like they are so funny in the family
group chat. They are just like like making fun of
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each other the whole time.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Do you guys have a group that he's not in
and then also a group that he is in.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We have too many. We have too many group chats,
and it gets us in trouble because we're like, oh,
wrong group chat, wrong group child. Like me and my sister,
it's just me and my like ashling, me and Aaron
and Emilyo's four oldest girls. We're just like kind of
talking crap about everybody the old time with that GM
and then there's one with the little little sisters Ariy Olivia,
and then one with the Tyler and Skyler. They're the
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only like boy in laws at the moment. We'll see
if we'll see if the other boys my sisters are
dating make the cut. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's tough to get brought into a six.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Man We're really we're pretty, we're pretty ruthless. Who's the oldest, Ashlyn?
She's my big sister, so I'm the second.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Got it. Yeah, so when there are six girls, pardon
my crass question here, but when they're sing, I wouldn't
you guys like fart on each other and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
They're disgusting, Like I think, girls we are so much
more gross than boys.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
We just do it more outwardly.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
No, we're privately discussing.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I wonder because if you give three boys together farting
on each other all the time, that used to be.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
My wake up call growing up, Like you know, should
come in to be like good morning, You're like okay,
and the fights about clothes and just like I mean,
we would probably slap each other harder than like the
UFC like hit each other.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean, yeah, anybody else do music, everybody and non form.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Not professionally. But all my sisters sing like we grew
up singing in church together and they're all incredible, Like
Aaron and Emiley still keep up their chops on the
classical piano. I mean they're like the touch they have
on keys is incredible. So yeah, we all get together
and sing.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And water or something.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
It's fun. Oh I love the water. Actually, I started,
what are you drinking there?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's a beer?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You don't drink I know it's.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And I saw thirty calories on that. I was like,
what kind of beer.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Do you want to water?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I love water.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's a whole time. It's uh, it's it's a kimbucha.
But when it's called hum and I do you like kimbucha? Like?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It didn't make you bloated or anything?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It does a little makes a burp a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But when I was doing whole thirty there you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Go, Oh you guys have the I love the box water.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Hey, one environmental step at a time.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You couldn't have I coudn't have sugar when I was
doing Whole thirty and that's just about eating natural stuff.
When'd you do that, probably nine ten months ago.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's pretty amazing. Do you feel better mentally when you're.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, there's no, there's not near as much brain. Everything's better.
And it's not a crazy diet like one of these
novel diets. It's just you don't eat processed food and
only really stuff that comes from the ground or animal,
but no sugar. And I love sugar. I eat sugar
all day. It's my favorite thing. Sugar. I would only
eat sugar. That would be the only thing. I would
have sugar for breakfast, lunch, dinner, yeah, main meal, and dessert.
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But these kombuchas that were Whole thirty and I just
got kind of it was like the one thing I
could really like. Yeah, yeah, because I love soda and
I don't drink it almost maybe two a year. Yeah,
I would drink a three liters a mountain to a day.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You that's just like a discipline. You're like, I'm just
not going to do soda.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I would like to do soda still, Yeah, yeah, because
I felt like it was not as much pleasure as
it was pain no meaning I would drink it and
just feel bad. Or I'd be working, I have a
TV shoot or something, and I would be like not
liking how I would look in whatever clothes they were
gonna put me. And mostly all the gross sugar I
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was eating. It wasn't so much a body everything. I
can just see all the sugar and I can.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
See it in my face, yeah face, and I'm like,
that's not worth Like, thank God, I think God made
me vain so that I would be healthy, because I'm like,
if I didn't, if i didn't see it on my
face what I was eating, because as soon as I
eat sugar or like sugar, any of that or the
SODA's like I'll start breaking out. Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We were having You and I were having dinner at
Cheesecake Factory in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Beat twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Is that when it was and you were telling me
about this guy you were dating who's like a lawyer,
and you were drunk.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
The Lord did I say it was a little I
don't remember.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I'm just telling you what it's like. Your Grandma's story.
We're both drunk. You were you were, but whatever his
job was, you drive back and forth to Atlanta, he
drive here. Yeah, and you were like, I think this
could bet you got married. So how's marriage been for you?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Love it? I think it's been. I think what was
different about when I knew I loved Tyler was like
every every person I dated before him, I always felt
like I had to choose. It's like, you either get married,
you pick the guy, or you can do music, or
you can pursue what you love. And Tyler was the
first guy who was just like so unthreatened, just refreshing.
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Oh my gosh, it's like the hottest thing ever to
just have a man like stand by you and just
be like freaking go fly and call me when you
can go do your thing. And he's got his thing,
and it's just we're both free, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And I'm assuming it's not lawyering, no reason.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He's a he's a broker, he's a tech.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Broker, something that like.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
The CARMACKX of texts. Why I tell people?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And when did you feel like it was different? How
long into it?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh? It was quick. It was like first date, literally
our first date. I remember you picking me up from
my hotel, and first of all, he's just so damn
good looking. Then I was just like okay, you know,
I was already in and and I just remember thinking
after that date, like, Okay, are we probably going to
see each other? Probably not again because he's in Atlanta.
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I was on radio tour at the time, you know
how that goes. But I remember thinking like, man, if
I don't marry him, like I want a guy just
like him, Like that's the caliber I want.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And how did you guys do the distance?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
We just did, Like it was the most easy thing
to figure out. I don't even know how, Like we
just didn't sleep. It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
See, my wife and I did distance for a while too,
and it was not fun because she was not That
was like flying right, it was. It was California and
it was tough.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But y'all did y'all start getting really serious during cod though.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Because we started dating three or four months before COVID.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
And then COVID happened and it was only gonna last
a couple of weeks, so it was like, just come
stay here for a couple of weeks, and then that
turned into months. Obviously, and then it was, well, I
guess everything's gonna go back to normal. So you're not
gonna move out or you're not gonna go away, are you?
I guess not. And so that it just kind of
happened like that. What about you guys as far as
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like he had to move here?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, And that was a that was a big conversation
for us because he's a Georgia boy and he likes
his woods and fishing and just being out in nature.
And I think what's cool is he never made me
be the one to ask. I think he just forget
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how that happened. He was just kind of like, you know,
I'm I realized, like I'm gonna need to move.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You had a song back in the day. I'm not
gonna put a year it because I don't know yours obviously,
because thought we hung out last week. Yeah, my sense
of time is completely off. That Make Them White song, which.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh yeah, oh man, I have a love favorite relationship
with that song.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
That's what I was gonna ask you about. So what
is your love Let's go, what is your love relationship
with that song?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, I don't be careful I talk about it because
I love that I know, I know people were introduced
to me because of that song.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That's okay. I think I'm not lost on that, and
I don't think anybody thinks you are.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You know, it's my first radio single.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
But if they still know you, they know that you
live an authentic yeah life, and you would probably say
to them if they were here, just like you're talking
to me, whatever your answer is here. Yeah, I don't
think anyone's going to be disappointed by your answers long.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
As I'm just outgrown it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
But what was the good part about It's what I'm
asking what introduce me to about it? And then what?
Because it is a feel way young, like I'm gonna
make a young like teeny.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Because I'm like, man, if I was nineteen year a girl,
I don't really make them white, no one, well, no, no,
I don't know. I don't know. I still think. I
still love the principle of the song, which is like,
I love that a lot of girls were like man,
I realized my worst because of this song, and that's dope.
And that's some of my parents always taught me and
my sisters, like the girl has the power, the man
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courts the girl, but you decide where and when it goes,
you know. So I'm glad like people got that message.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
What's the hardest part about being married?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I've only been married to I'm sane, if you're so.
I asked that because for us, I think the hardest
part has been for her having to deal with me,
as in I'd never really been in a relationship, like
a real relationship. Yeah, until her, even there's like a
long term not even romantic, but even at all, because
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you know, I wasn't close with my parents, and except
for my grandma who raised me a lot of my life,
I really didn't have I didn't know how to be
close to somebody at all. So she's had to go
through a lot of those growing pains where it's like
I am nineteen in that part of my life. And
I think that's been hard. I mean, kind of but
also annoying for her.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Is it like she just knows your trigger points and
knows when you're like fishing away.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
She had to learn the trigger points, and that's never
You only learn them if you get triggered. You know.
It's not like I'm like, here are my trigger points.
You haven't never seen them, but these could be them.
But you know, there are a lot of things that
would make me very uncomfortable, just intimacy in general, because
I'd never experienced that, at least to that.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Like just vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
And I still struggle with it, but I am a
lot better at it because of her. But that's probably
been the hardest thing that And then I work a lot,
and I think I used to work even some just
to fill space because I didn't want to have empty
space because I felt like I felt like a freaking
loser and so and so. Yeah, so I didn't want
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to be a loose.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I mean, I just felt like it when you have
like a quiet moment, your brain starts.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Spiraling a little bit, a lot of bit. Yeah, and
so I wouldn't allow that to happen.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And so do you feel more comfortable in the quiet now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm okay in the quiet. Then I'll
just find something to do. So I would do then,
but you know what, for her, I would be with her,
but I would still be looking for something to do. Yeah,
And that really that's not it. I'm supposed to be
trying to spend supposed to spend time with her. Trying so,
but it's been.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
It's nice to feel unconditional love. Yeah, and like allowing
someone to love you unconditionally.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
That is the harder part. I feel that the second.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Part, like what do you mean? I don't have to
prove myself. I don't have to constant do something.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Like why do I deserve this? Because it never really.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Had it and you didn't have to try for it.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
It just it's just right. So but I also, it
came so easy. I feel like I could leave so easy,
and I think that was a big problem.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Damn. I feel that, Like I feel like I didn't
have to look. I wasn't looking, And I feel like
a lot of times this is interesting, that's an interesting
thought of Like sometimes I feel like I try to work,
quote unquote work for the things that God just wants
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to give me. It's like, why can't I just let
him give me the gift and give me a blessing without?
Oh God, I like I'm working for it, Like no,
what if he's saying, sit down, let me just give
you a.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Gift, why don't we just accept it? Probably because if
we think if it's free, it's not real, it's not valuable.
We think we're not worthy of it. We think we're
not worthy of a gift. Yeah, I think I struggle
even getting normal gifts when people. I never open them
upront of people.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I'll open a card in front of someone. But yeah,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
What's been what's the hardest thing for your husband? What's
been something he's had to work through because either growing
up with all sisters or growing up you know, we
all have our own stories.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Hmm. I think I would have to ask him. I
don't want to put words in his mouth or anything,
because he's just so steady, like he's I feel like
he's so good at loving people, and like he's so
good at loving me. I don't I don't think there's
any man who could show me the kind of love
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that he does. Is his patience and just lets me
be free and lets me roam and lets me create,
and he's so un threatened by it and anytime. And
he's a hard cookie to crack too, though, Like I'm
such an artist and I'm such a little like Pisce.
He's emotional. I'm like, tell me what you're thinking, tell
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me what you're feeling, and he's like, no, I'm just
thinking and I'm like, that's the fun of thinking is
telling people what you're thinking. No, tell me everything. He's
just a thinker man. So I'm honestly, you're gonna for
a little marriage conversation. I'm like, what are you uh?
What are you struggling with right now?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Well it doesn't have to be now, but you know,
and too, even with me, even two roommates to move
in together, there's always.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
I know, I annoyed the hell out of him, like he.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Says, by doing what though? By doing what do you
think is annoying about you?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Free and everything? I think I'm so annoying.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
But do you think you're loud? Think? Yes, dude, yes,
But I don't think that's annoyed because I'm not with
you twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean, he loves me for it. But he did
tell me, like he said he didn't know after our
first date because I'm so I'm so like into myself
sometimes too, And I asked him, I was like, what
was your first thought about me, you know, on our
first date? And he was like, I thought you were
the loudest girl I've ever met in my life. And
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I was like, oh, like I thought he was gonna
say like, oh my gosh, you're so hot. Like what
He's like, no, you were allowed to be Like.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Where did you guys go on your first date.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Jenny's He thinks, well, he had. He had planned out
a whole night because I was supposed to get into
Atlanta again this one radio tour and I we had
a whole conversation, like on the phone conversation. He's such
a gentleman, like call me on the phone, tell me
the plan, made the plans, and so he had. He
had texted me. He's like, hey, is your eta still
seven pm tonight? And I was like, should be seven pm?
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Turns to eight, eight pm turns to nine. I don't
get to my hotel till ten thirty. And by this time,
the dinner reservations out the door. All of his plans
are out the door. So he picks me up and
and he was like, is it okay if I take
you to ice cream? And I just wanted to be
with him. We got set up. So my big sister
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and now my really good friends, Tyler's really good friends
Jarrett and McKinley brock. They were Ashland my big sister
and then were good friends up in New York and
they were at dinner one night and the Brocks were like, Hey,
we have this guy. We're trying to find him a girl.
He's such a stud, He's this a sis. And my
big sister, knowing me, she saw one picture of him
(47:07):
and she was like, oh, Abby would love him so
that she just picked me a picture of him, and
she was like, hey, he lives in Georgia. I know
you're gonna be there in like a couple of weeks,
and we want to set y'all up. And I was like,
he can call me.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I let him call how long until he did?
Speaker 1 (47:24):
He like, asked for my schedule? Are they the our
friends asked for my schedule? I made it really dramatic
and I didn't need to, but I was just having fun.
So it was like the next day or so, you.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Got engaged on a boat.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
We got he Yeah, we were all. George has become
like my safe haven and we have a couple of
properties out there, lake houses, and so it just became
our COVID hideaway, you know. And yeah, he took me
out in my canoe and to me in the woods.
I had a gut the only reason I had a
gut feeling it was coming. Was because I was depressed
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as hell, and this was like I was so freaking
sad during COVID and this was like right after I
left the label, like everything, and my sisters were all
there and they came down the stairs and they were like, hey,
like what if you didn't wear a sweatshirt today? Like
what if you took your shower?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
And I was like, what is going on? So I
was still wearing a sweatshirt. I just put a clean
one on, and that he proposed to me in this
oh whatever, it was perfect though he's a stud.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah I think so. He said it many times, just
like yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So it's nice to like your spouse. Yeah, you know,
I know a lot of people don't like their spous
I'm like I was.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, and you'll go through little probably many seasons where
oh for sure, we've gone through mini sit where you
don't like them but you still love them. Yeah, because
I know there are times where I'm not very likable.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Same and I'm I'm less likable than he is. He's
very likable.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
How are you like you're the most likable. I forget
how likable you are.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, but you only see You're only gonna see me
for an hour today, Bobby, he has to see me
all day, all the time. I'm not arguing I can
be likable for an hour.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
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Speaker 2 (49:29):
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Speaker 1 (49:33):
I feel like I'm working again.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, back on the road. Is that fun?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah? I missed it. I think for a long time,
I like try to talk myself out of what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Because you may not get it.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh I felt that really, like just those
moments of like fabilitating.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Down yes, where it's like you're convincing yourself you don't
want it, but actually you're just telling yourself you're so
scared that if you don't get it, that you'll just
be such a failure. So you're just gonna go and
say you don' want it, so therefore it can't better,
like crazy?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Do you still do that?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yes? All the time?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
And what's the discipline there to like not let yourself
talk yourself out.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Of it acknowledging it that that's what it is okay
because this fear, Yeah, because it'll never not happen. You're
wired in that way. It's all my stay safe, yep,
and to look for safety because it hasn't always been
safe growing up, and so you want safety, So what's safe?
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And I would do it, and I felt like because
of survival, I would not allow myself because I had
to get to a different place. But then I started
to realize, you know, I think I'm just doing this
because I'm scared that if it doesn't work out, that
I'll be a total loser and I will not be
what I thought I could be. And the fact that
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I could acknowledge it actually allowed me to put it.
Didn't make it easier, but it allowed me to just
keep going, knowing that I wasn't wanting to quit for
anything that was rational and logical. It was just fear.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Is it ever a fear of being seen.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
In what way? Or being heard of not being seen.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Or heard of being seen or heard?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Why do you think people if they finally see who
you are, they're not gonna like you?
Speaker 1 (51:22):
No, Because again, I think I'm pretty likable at.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Least for an hour. For an hour, you're the most
likable person, so I do.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I don't know. I've been asking myself that question.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Explain that question though, because I don't understand the question.
For me, my fear has always been if I show
my real self and NOE, people are not going to
like me. So it was let me try to be
especially early, let me try to be exactly what I
think I should be, because I can. I can chameleon
into anything.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I was a chameleon. I was like, I can make
you like me. I know what you want, and I
was how to be yes you want.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
And I was really good at it and it didn't matter.
I could go wherever. And I think I kind of
had to be that anyway growing up because there were
just I was uncomfortable a lot growing up. So I
had to figure out how to read people where I
was safe where I wasn't, And that was just a
natural skill. But then I was worried if I was
my real self that nobody would actually like the real version.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Maybe that's what it is then, Yeah, because I found
for a long time I didn't even know there was
a maybe you relate to this. There was a long
time where I didn't even know what I liked.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, I still that's still a struggle with me.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It's still a struggle for me and I literally it's
a discipline I have to do every single day, if
it's cover art work. Even there was a minute, Bobby,
this is like kind of sad. I had to wake
up and ask myself what do I want to wear today?
How do I want to do my hair today? Like
that was a practice and I still have to practice
that rewiringes. For so long, I was told what to wear.
(52:49):
I was told what's modest and what's not and what
makes me worthy and what doesn't. And I've never asked myself,
does this make me feel good? Do I like this?
And I proud of this? Oh my gosh, I'm like,
I'm twenty six years old.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
I'm still you're having to rewire your brain.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Still I'm rewiring my brain all fun.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
And almost impossible, but can be done.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
And I had to. I think I'm learning to like
I don't have to have it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
To you'll never fee be successful, never figured out. And
the people that haven't figured out actually don't. We just
think they do, and that you would ask them and
they would admit they don't. Also, yeah, nobody has it
figured out. Yeah, some people look better doing it, but
that's not because we're looking from afar.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
But anybody that I know that's been wildly successful in
whatever arena, they will also say I never knew. I
still don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, because there is
no blueprint, really no, especially if you want to do
it to be authentic, if you want to do it
and be a version a one hit wonder pop song,
not even music. But I'm just saying, like something that
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people like and then forget but have a little bit
of success, that's probably that's probably able to be done,
but it's not able to be sustain Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
I feel like the last couple of years has been
such a blessing for me, Like, I I know what
not being authentic feels like.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
And did you know you weren't being authentic? Though? When
you weren't being authentic? Because I don't know that I did.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I just knew I wanted to make people happy.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I just wanted to entertain I just.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Wanted to be the entertainer. And I feel like the
last couple of years has been such a practice for me,
a practice of practicing authenticity and like and just realizing
I'm like God, and I pray for those opportunities. I'm like, God,
give me, give me an opportunity today to practice authenticity
and to say no or to say yes, and those
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opportunities will come. And you're like, oh, period is you know?
It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I keep a note on my phone of every lie
I tell.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Why, Gosh, this sounds terrible. I couldn't keep up with
mine honestly, Well, what do you mean by what do
you mean? Like? What kind of lies? Just lying to yourself?
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Uh? Because it makes me uncomfortable at times to even
tell lies that I'm telling as like a white lie
or to make to appease somebody, and in the end
it usually comes back not a net positive. So I
keep a list of lies just to remind me. I
don't want to lie, even if it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
So this is like after a conversation you've had with someone.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's just an accountability thing, even if it's like, oh
I like that, but you don't. For example, I was
on a podcast talking with Eddie, who's my best friend,
and I told him I had talked to this guy
named John Middlecop, but I didn't talk him. I'd only texted
with him and that really wasn't even in my mind,
really wasn't alive. But then it got off and I
was like, you know what, no, only I lied.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, so it is I like that, Wait, that might
pick up up.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
It's just an accountability thing for me because I have
to keep track of it, I notice it more. Yeah,
and therefore I am. I feel like I'm pursuing and
I'm conscious of a more somewhat more authentic version. But
sometimes sucks. It's not supposed to be easy. Though it's easy,
everybody will be doing it.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Are you going to therapy? It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, I mean I go to my I have my
own therapist who I finally have one that I really
like that challenges me hard, that makes me uncomfortable. And
then my wife and I have one and we started going.
It's the greatest counseling for us. Is awesome and it's hard,
and but it makes everything else easier. It's like lifting weight.
(56:30):
You get a lot. It sucks, like working out, but
then you're just a lot stronger, so great after Yeah,
it just feels good. What's up? So what? What what's
happening with this music? What's it what's the deal.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
We're working on it right now. I'm practicing authenticity.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, like are you are you gonna dribble out songs
one at a time?
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I don't know yet. I'm in this still. I'm writing
a ton and I've got like, as of right now,
i have like a handful of songs I'm stoked about.
And so now I do feel pressure, Like I'm feeling like, Okay,
there's a lot of eyes on it, and like you know,
hard on Fire Mexico. I'm super thankful that like brought
(57:09):
in a whole new audience and that's the song. And now,
I mean, I hope it still is a song you
never in today's world, like anything could be bigger than
it is was ten years ago. You never know. And
I love that song. But I am feeling I do
feel a little pressure of like, Okay, this next stuff,
it's got to be better than what I've done, but I.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
It doesn't though it doesn't have to compare at all.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
It's more like raising my internal standard.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
That's great. That's what if you want to do that
and it's healthy for you to do that feels healthy.
As long as it feels healthy.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, but you can psych
yourself out too, like I'll doubt myself.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
You know you always will. Yeah, you never won't.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, And that's a comforting thought, honestly.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
But it's both. It's you feel stupid and scary. It's
scary because you're like, i'll never get opened to get
through this, I'll always be this way. But then when
you realize you'll always be this way again, you can
acknowledge it and move through it knowing that it's not
the end. Yeah, I remember, and we'll wrap on this.
But I remember the last time you and I had
talked on the phone and you were like, I want
(58:15):
to do I want to be more of an online
like or a social media I have a presence and
I want to do me. I was like, you that person,
that's you. You have such a there's such an attraction
to just your energy in general, and I even forget
about it sometimes until I see you. And I was
just like, just be you. And I'm not in any
way saying I did or said anything. I didn't say anything.
(58:36):
It's the most generic thing ever, but I believed it.
But that's what you did, and it's just I've just
watched you blow up by just being you, and I
didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Like people will always say, like, oh, just be yourself.
I'm like, I don't know what myself is though, and
I'm still figuring that out now. I'm like, oh, like,
I know when I like something, and I don't have
a problem telling someone I like that I don't. That
feels great. But I'm still like just the chiseling away
down to the core.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
And not to as they say, beat it dead horse.
But you will never figure it all out, even about yourself,
because you're always changing, Yeah, and so you'll never it's
you'll always be chiseling.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, And I like that. That's a fun thought.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
And it's terrifying at the same time. Yeah, because you
never have a grasp. That's the terrifying part of it.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
But then when you realize you'll never have a grasp,
then you don't hold yourself to a standard of I
must have a grasp because everybody else does well, they
don't either.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I just like to think about like we're all going
to die.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
I think about it all the time. We're just organically
that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
That's the most comforting to me. It's like, you know what,
when I'm ninety eight and I'm on my deathbed the
most comforting. I'm like, I just want to make sure
that that woman is proud of me today. And it's like,
you know what, even if it doesn't go, even if
all my hopes and dreams don't happen, whatever, Like I
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did my best and I freaking went for it.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
You guys. Abby on Instagram Abby and Anderson Music TikTok
Abby Anderson Music. I don't know, whenever you're ready, come
up to the show. We can set it up whenever.
It just use the use the golden ticket whenever.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You want me know, when like a fun time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
It's not that, it's just when you have whatever. If
you want to, I want to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I want to co host one day.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Okay, if Amy's ever out, I'll call you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Well, you'd have to, probably you do media training for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Our show. For our show, nobody's ever had media training. Really,
there's a type of person that needs media training, and
there's a type of person that needs to be told, hey,
chilled just a little bit. Yeah, you don't need media
training except for now you know exactly what you're doing.
(01:00:45):
Except for sometimes early on you just wouldn't stop. Oh
my god, and it'd be like hold on, hold on,
hold on, Like I like what you're doing. We're gonna
get back to just hold on once. But I think
it was just it's just trying to do too much. Yeah,
we all do that. We all do that. Yeah, but
some people need media training, some people don't. You're a natural.
You can host the show. Amy's never had media training.
(01:01:06):
None of us have had media training. We just got
in the media.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
And I just get scared of what I'm gonna say sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You know same, but like, hey, there's an art to this,
and there's an art to not thinking there's an art
to it. Therefore it's even better. So yeah, so whenever
you if you want to do hard off Fire in Mexico, great,
you want to toe any music comes out, whatever you want,
let me know, come up, we'll have fun. I really
enjoyed it. I always enjoyed it. I forget how much
I enjoy hanging out with you until I hang out
with you again, so I'll probably gonna forget again until
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next time. But you're awesome. Yeah, you're awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
You can forget about alcohol back around.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I believe it. At Abby Anderson Music on Instagram and
TikTok and you guys go follow her please. She's awesome,
as you can tell by the last hour.
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
Every time I've taken that to God, and it was
just like, I don't know that this is my path
anymore if I need to keep going to let me know.
It was just this rush a piece that I got
in the words where you Gotta keep going?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four point thirty three with Abby Anderson. Abby's awesome.
Known her for a long time. Not to be confused
with Abby from our show, who is Abby Lee Anderson,
which is why she should have put the lie in
because of this Abby Anderson. But Abby is from South Lake, Texas.
She moved to Nashville when she was seventeen, one of
seven kids, second oldest. She began piano lessons at about
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five years old, and her interest to country music comes
from her mom, who comes from a family of country
music singers and they just generally loved country music there.
So Abby's been through it. She came to Nashville, got
a record deal, left that record deal independent for a
long time, now has kind of a new label deal going.
But she's awesome. I think you're gonna love her. If
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you don't know her, you're gonna love her. After this interview,
let me play a little bit of Heart on Fire
in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Smell, best smile.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Name is with to sen it on And here's a
little bit of the reason I stay.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You Betty Go, the reason I'm crazy lettly Yo, the
reason crap you reason.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Lenny on Instagram and TikTok. Abby Anderson Music enjoy one
of my favorites. Here she is Abby Anderson. Are you comfortable?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm so great?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Are you good?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, he's good to see you too, good to see
you too. When's the last time we saw each other?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Twenty twenty one?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
No way, yeah, huh.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You had me on this Maybe it was the beginning
of twenty twenty two, because you have me on the show. Yeah,
out of your mind, because I made you put me
on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That can't be true that it's been that long.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah huh. I think so. Maybe I've seen you in passing.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And maybe, But I think maybe it's social media too,
where I follow you so I see what you're up to,
so I feel like I see you all the time.
Maybe that's it. No, no, no, no, When did you
go do shows with me? Was that before even twenty
That was twenty nineteen? Really?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh yeah, you were making fun of my crop tops
and everything. I still storm over there, man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess COVID just kind of erased memories, rased years
for memories.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I know. I'm trying to give my I still try
to give myself grace for.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That, for what for what? But no, I talked to you.
I've talked to you though even I haven't seen you.
Speaking of that, I remember you. We talked on the
phone once when you were making music, So that counts.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I was asked I needed some guidance, Yeah you're waking out.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, yes, so that counts even though I didn't see
you like I guess. My point is I genuinely like you,
and we spent enough time together. We spent enough time
to where I feel like like I know you even
if I don't see you for a year and a
half or so.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So not exactly mysterious, So pretty easy to.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Know that is true. You're not mysterious. What do you do?
I have a lot of, like, you know, questions about
what we're gonna talk about, but like, what do you
do for if? Because I was just at home, I
had like thirty minutes we'd been doing the show, we
went and recorded another video basketball show, had like thirty
minutes just to sit If you have that. What do
you do if you have thirty minutes or an hour
(03:33):
to sit? Like what is your I'm gonna chill for
a second activity.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You're gonna laugh at me because it's hippie dippy, but
it helps me so much. Deep breathing, Like if I
have thirty minutes to just dream, I take it and
I'm like, I'm gonna put my phone.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Away like meditation type.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I guess so yeah, like praying slash, I love writing
in my journal. I just love visualizing and like my
self dream. I'm like, if I didn't have any fear
of me right now, what would I do? And I
just practice visualizing that feeling, that emotion, and I feel
like that's changed so much for me.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Do you feel like that helps you? And when did
you start focusing on that?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Like probably last summer really twenty twenty three summer.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Why why did you start going down that?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I was just tired of being where I was, And
I don't know if you've ever felt like this, like I've.
I felt like I saw the person I wanted to
be and she was within reach, and I was like,
I know I have that potential and I get really
really frustrated when for some reason, I feel like I
can't reach my potential. And that's like my biggest fear
(04:44):
in life is not reaching my full potential. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Reading this book called The Power of Now, and it's
all about the you know, part of it's the ego
and what we the past in the future or what
define the ego, what we think about what we used
to be and what we hope that we can be,
or what the pressures we put on ourselves to be.
And the whole book is like focusing on right now
(05:11):
because that's the only thing you can actually affect And
it's a lot of what you're saying too, like just stopping,
slowing down, closing your eyes, sitting up though, because if
you lay back you'll fall asleep. I've fell into that trap.
Ye are good, Yeah, but not if you're actually trying.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
To well, maybe maybe you need a nap.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh I always need a nap. Maybe I'm just talking
to me. Then I always don't sleep. I don't sleep
that much. So where did you learn to do this?
Did you just start going I'm going to take deep
breaths or did you read it somewhere or did you
have a friend that was like, hey, if you'll just
because I do the breathing as well now because I've
(05:51):
been taught. Hey, the first thing you can do is
just focus on your breathing, because what that does is
that takes your mind off of everything else. Yeah, so
as much as you're breathing, and it's good to put
auction in your blood, the physical part of it. But
if you focus on your breathing, you at least for
a bit, stop focusing on all the things that can
be botheredome or stressful or why and how did you
(06:12):
notice start doing that?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So I learned it from a vocal coach back in
like twenty nineteen again, and she always she taught me
the importance of diaphragmatic.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Breathing so to sing to sing, got it?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And then I was like, man, when I do this though,
I feel great, and I feel like, like the past
few years, it's just been a lesson of tapping back
into what I want and listening to myself and listening
to my gut. I've always had a strong gut instinct.
I just got really bad at listening to it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Who's the person you want to be?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Who did you see that you didn't feel like you
were but you could actually get there. What was different
about her?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Wait? Say that again.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, you said you saw the person that you could
be really free.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So it's free and fearless, and you don't think you're that.
I think I'm getting there. I think I'm pretty damn close.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
My perception of you is that you are very free.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think at times we can seem fearless, but it
doesn't mean we actually are.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
No, I'm still scared. I think a lot of times.
I think for a while I was like even scared
of I don't mean this in a cocky way. I
think I was scared of how powerful I know I am,
because because then I'm calling the shots and then everything's
on me.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And then if you failed, then then if you fail,
then it's your fault.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And I can't blame anybody. It's not any label president's fault,
it's not the A and r's fault, it's not the
pretty It's me.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Did you so you were with a label for a while.
I was with the same label for a while. Yeah.
And when you went independent and you left the label,
was there a fear that you couldn't be successful without
a label or was there more of a fear? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Really no fear it was. I think what it was was,
I was just so excited to throw paint at the
wall and I think what I made next. That was
back in twenty twenty one. That is when I emailed
you and I was like, hey, listen to this please,
cause I was Yeah, I was scared because I was like, dang,
this is I feel like I'm seventeen again, moving to town,
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like truly creating the stuff I believed in that I
freaking loved and that was fun and I was like, Okay,
I don't really care what this does. That was the
first time in a long time that I felt like
I'm creating music I love. I don't care what it does.
Hopefully people like it. Like I wouldn't be an artist
if I made music just for me. Of Course I
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want people to hear. Of course I want people to
enjoy it. And it's still I write it cause I
have to. And that was the first time in a
minute where I was like, I don't care if people
like this. And luckily they did, and I'd like to
think I'm getting better and better and better at that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
What do you mean they liked it? Just data streams?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, just like my fans like that. I've never
had that reaction from my people before, and they weren't
concerned about the sound per se. I think they could
just see the light in me and the fire in
me and the passion behind it. Like it's so much
more fun promoting a song that when you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Believe it, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Gosh, Like I didn't know what that felt like. Yeah,
it's like, damn, I've been fake as hell this time.
So I'm like, if I can be that good promoting
something with a fake smile, imagine how much more fun
it's gonna be when it's real.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So when you're putting out this record, we're talking about now,
this this body of music, and you put it out
and it does in your mind, it makes you feel good.
You're fulfilled by the reaction that it got. So does
it make you enjoy now being with a label that
would give you a bit of your own autonomy or
(09:55):
it's like, aren't you signed? Now it's somebody a different virgin.
So it's been awesome legit label. Yeah, And that's what
I was. My point was, now, do you have a
bit more of understanding of what you want and you'll
actually ask for it instead of just having them tell
you this is your sound, you will do this for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And I think I think I needed that moment after
the first label deal, to be truly, truly independent, to
stand on my own two feet, and I'll take the
heat in that way. And now I don't think any
label would come to me and assume that any any differently,
that I wouldn't present the music I loved. Like now,
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you couldn't tell me, you couldn't tell me what to say.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And you wouldn't have been able to tell you then
when you left your first label, that hey, this is
actually going to be for the great, not just for
the good, but for the great, because you almost needed
that break to understand why you were breaking. Yeah, to understand.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That's a great way. I needed a break to understan
and why I was so miserable and that sucked.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And you probably were a bit even more miserable for
a minute.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh, Bobby, I got so depressed after I left. And
that's an interesting question. I wonder why, Because I got
what I wanted. I wanted to be free, and then
once I was free, I almost quit. I almost quit.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Why not? Why didn't you quit? Like? What what was
the little pep talk you had with yourself where you're.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh, I'm terrible at pep talks with myself. I would
like crap on my shelf. It's like that was I
think that was God.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There was that like God.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Isn't God's inside of us? I believe that, but like
it was just that gut tug that was like, you're
not done yet. And every time I've taken that to
God and was just like, I don't know that this
is my path anymore. I don't know that this is
for me if it If it is, can you let
me know if I need to keep going? Can you
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let me know instantly? It'll just be like it was
just this rush a piece that I got and the
words were you gotta keep going, just keep going.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Was very glad it did anything artistic that you did
once you decided that you were going to keep going,
that kind of revitalized you. Any specific art that you
made music.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I think it was that it's called Sugar Spice, that
nine song project and I have Bad Posture on it.
Once I wrote Bad Posture and that was released in
twenty twenty two, and that was with Marshall Altman, who
was like he just provided such a great cocoon for
me to like recover, and I needed to recover. I
needed to recover the artist in me to feel fearless
(12:42):
again and get back to that seventeen year old Abby.
I'm like, you couldn't tell that girl shit. She strolled
into town, had no idea about like how hard he
was to get a record deal, and she got one
in two years because she said she would. I was like,
I want to That girl was a dreamer and she
just made it happen by asking for it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
She was a dreamer, and that's we aspire to have,
at least I do at times aspire to have some
of that that I call it like dumb deer face
where you just don't you don't know if you just go.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's like a kid, you just don't.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
However, you want that again. But you've had to go
through some hard times, so you're actually way more mature
in part of you as well.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'd like to think you have to be.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Anytime you go through adversity, you either get stronger you die. Yeah,
and you got a lot stronger in this case. That
Bad Posture song was so good, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I still love that song.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I loved that song. Did your people really like
that song? Was that one that resonated? That was? I mean,
I think we played that on that like the I
heard women show that I programmed you if that says
such a good song.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And I needed that. I needed that one.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I was watching your Instagram it's been a while now,
and I saw you do this song and you were like,
my grandma.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Heard on fire in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, yeah, And I watched probably one of the first
times you posted it, and you were and you may
have to retell me the story, but like my grandma
met somewhere over in a place like an island or something. Okay,
far an island.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
This is a Mexico.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, see whatever, I knew it was something though Mexico
and island they're both warm. I get anything. Okay, So
tell me the story before we talk about this song.
So what happened? How did she tell you the story?
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So, my this is the story I grew up hearing
from my mom. So my mom's half Mexican and my
dad's like whiter than you are.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Why do I have to be the standard for very white?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, it's okay, it's not It's a good it's okay,
and so so me and my sisters. We always grew
up knowing that like Mom's Mexican, she speaks Spanish. There's
like it was just the culture we grew up around.
And and I remember when we were little kids were
like Mom, like where did that come from? And she
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she for the longest time, would not tell us this
story because her childhood was really dramatic. And you know,
and I I hope she writes a book about her story.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Wine, where did she live as a kid?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'll pass it. So anyways, the story goes, my peepa
was in the army and he go he was in
Fort Bliss and back in those days. This again, this
is the story I was told. Okay, we could go
in fact check, but frankly everyone was drunk, and like,
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I go back and I asked my granny Joe the
fact like anybody, and everyone's got a different story. This
is the story I graph from my mother. Okay, he's
in Fort Bliss. He goes over with Tajuarez with somebody's
and that's where my nanny was working at a bar.
Gorgeous lady, I mean, stunning, and they meet at a
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bar hook up. She gets pregnant.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Wait hook up as in that night, Yeah, first.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Night, that night, first night they I'm pretty surely at
least very early. Anyways, he goes back to the States
not knowing she's pregnant, and has my mom and then
they get back to El Paso. That's what's murky. I
don't understand how they how she went from Juares to
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l Passo. That might be. I'll be like, I don't
know if it was legal. I don't know how that happened.
Somehow they ended up in a Passo. Yeah, and my
mom grows up knowing that her father was this army guy,
and long story short, somehow finds him when she's like
nine or ten years old because she needed to get
away from my nanny. She was not like a healthy
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person and finds my people. Wow, and that's like a
whole and her story is incredible. Had he actually knew
so he finds out later. I found this out from
my grandma, Pipau's wife, and she actually told me like, hey,
I don't think your mom realized that people actually went
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to go find Yolanda because somehow he found out she
was pregnant and he brought her to San Antonio and
then I think she just wasn't comfortable. There was a
whole different culture and everything.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And she went back, went back, And then.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm like that. And then my mom found him when
she was like nine or ten, like she had like
the neighbor called him and was like, you got to
get to scroll out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Hang tight. The Bobby Cast will be right back, and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Where was your grandpa living.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
In at that time? He was in East Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So stayed in Texas?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Was he from Texas originally?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yep? Texas boy.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So you're right hard on fire in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah. I've always wanted to write my mom a song.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, yeah, And how long it taken write that one?
So fast?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It was so fast, like I've always for a long time.
I was like, ma'am, my mom gave me and my
sisters the life she never had. She gave us the
gift of having a mother. And I'm like, that's just
an incredible thing to do. They will give someone something
you've never experienced before. And so I woke up one
day and literally I woke up in those first four lines,
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she was a darkhadh was beauty flirting with the Gi
Joe Off beauty work and hippit tips at a bar
in Mexico and I was like whoa. I was like,
thank you God. And I called up my buddy Michael Farren.
I had to write with him schedule that day and
I was like, I'm coming in hot and we have
to write this today, and it was like maybe thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that's rare and awesome. It was rare, especially something
that falls out of you that has longevity in that
you end up keeping it, recording it, being proud out
of it, all of that. Because if I'm doing something
I'm like, oh, this a great idea. Half the time
it's not even that great once they finally get rid
or I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Or falls flat lead yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Or maybe I'm like it falls flat and I'm like,
you know, I just I'm not even gonna pursue it
anymore where maybe I should. But for all of that
to happen and also be a very personal, yeah, that's
really cool.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So what's what's the song that? Like? What is well,
what's your song now that like your focus song, your
single whatever they call it these days?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right now? It's the reason I stay Okay, which I
love that song but still like my like the people
follow Me love that song too, but still it's hard
on fire in Mexico. I feel like I cracked something
inside me when I wrote that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I felt like I watched you play it. Yeah, I
mean I remember just watching the video from when the
first time you put it up, like I felt.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It feels like me.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I didn't rewatch it. I didn't do any like research
on you as parts. I want to watch videos again
because I just see it all the time. But I
remember the first time I watch said I was like,
oh wow, I mean I felt that. Thank you, and
and you know, we're in a land where there's a
lot of that trying to happen, but it's rare that
you really feel something because it's all the time and everywhere.
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Oh that's really cool. We should come play that on
the radio show and yeah, that'd be really good and it.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Won't be on piano.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And I've never told you to come on, and then
you not come on.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Dum freaking bob, what I'm gonna tell you?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, But I'm saying no, it's not no. I'm saying
I don't say, hey, you should come on. And then
then I like, don't. Then I like, don't follow yet
when I say it, I mean do It's not like
we should have dinner sometime when people say that. But yes, yeah,
shut up, man, shut up, get off of me. Did
(20:49):
you do shows with Stevie Nicks? Yes, that's what the hell?
That's wild?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It was so dope.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
How did that come together? And what was it like?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So Carl Lewis, who's Stevie Nixon's manager, She's She's become
a great mentor to me. And I met her through
a friend of a friend from Madison, you know in
Nashville works. It's just like Cheryl's Madison's and we're at
a get this. We were at a house party one
night and Madison texts me and she's like, hey, she
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knows I'm like a huge Chris Isaac fan, like obsessed
with him. Don't even try. Do You're gonna make me mad?
Don't don't even try.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I was letting our audience know who it was.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
People know. I just am upset, like I feel like
he raised like I grew up listening to his records
with my mom in the car growing up. And she
texted me, she's like, hey, you should come over tonight.
My uncle Chris is here, my aunt Cheryl, and so
I'm thinking like, okay, kid, you not Chris, Isaac, you is.
We're a freaking uncle. And I walked in and I
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was like bro. I was like Madison, I said, do
you know? Like, do you know who your uncle is?
I was freaking out. And the last thing I was
gonna do is be like, oh, I'm an order this too,
you know. So I just start asking him questions being
a nerd, and finally he was like, why do you
care so much? And I was like, ah, not, you know,
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I sang whatever, And that night we just end up
playing guitar together all night. It was so fun, and
charl was there, and so me and Scherl became really
good friends and I would just ping her every now
and then for advice and business stuff. And then one
day she called me. It was like a year and
a half later probably, and I don't expect anything from anybody,
(22:35):
like I genuinely love her. And she just called me
one day and she's like, hey, sweetie, I was just
wondering if you want to come open for Stevie. I
was like yes, Shirl, I was like yes, I would
love to do that. So we did, Like I think
we had four four or five shows with her and
(22:56):
I want.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
To come back to the shows in a second. But
you are at a house with Chris Isaac just playing
music a guy that you listen to a lot, I
don't know. Tell me about that, and what do you play?
And and how do you like? What's the what's the vibe?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He literally feels like your uncle, but like a legendary uncle.
He's like the most humble, like sweetest man.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm like, it's just fun and that's Madison's uncle. Yep,
did you do?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I don't want to fall in No, I didn't want
to ask him to single. He's probably so tired of
us song. We just played covers.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's cool though.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, do you ever do you ever like see him
ever anymore? I do? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
When I go to when I go to l A,
they'll have me over. He took me to Lululemon, like
we'll go shopping. There's so fun and like Cheryl's like
pushing her dogs everywhere. There's just there like family to meet.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's so fun. I love that man.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So let's talk about going to open for Steven so
she called and said, do you want to do this?
Of course you do. That's amazing. I mean, Fleetwood Mac amazing.
Stevie Nick's amazing first show was what city.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Chic Chicago and or Orlando get Orlando or Chicago.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you remember the like going to the venue that day?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh yeah, it was a big, old arena, sold out arena.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I don't know if you ever felt like this. And
I hope this doesn't come off in like an arrogant way,
but I remember walking in there being like, hell, yeah,
like this place ain't big enough. Like it just felt
it just it just felt so damn good. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Did you get to meet her before you played?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, I haven't met her.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You didn't meet her, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I've never met I wrote her like a couple of
little notes to saying thank you, and I gave him
to her team. I highly doub our team.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Gave it to her at least put it in front
of her.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Maybe, but I blame them if they did it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know, I'm surprised she didn't say high or something.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, I don't blame her. I mean, the woman's a
freaking legend. She's I mean she's still crushing it every night. Yeah,
oh yeah, and she's just I feel like I learned
from her, like her just standing there is enough, like
just the presence she has and the energy she brings
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to her show. And I learned like, man, I'm enough,
like you know, me just standing there, being present, letting
the audience know I'm happy to be there. That's when
I have my best shows. I don't need to do
a whole bunch of I think I spent a lot
of time trying to prove something, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
To what or to who everybody, just.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Doing too much rather than the thing that comes effortlessly
to me and getting really really good at that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
How much do you play piano in your set?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Ooh, that's that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's how I was introduced to you by way before
I ever kne who you were.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was like the piano player, Yes.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'd never met you.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And because again it was on the same label for
so I had a relationship where they ended up, you know,
buying my way out of it because it's like, I
don't need a label. We do all our own promotion.
And so I kept a good relationship. And I remember
when they had signed you. You were introduced to me
as this amazing singer who's even a better piano player.
So I thought it was like little Mozart or something.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's nice. I mean, I grew up playing Mozart. I
still I'll still pull him out or.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
No, really, because I've never seen a version of you
with the classically trained No.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean, if you asked me to play off memory
right now, I probably couldn't. It would be pretty choppy. No.
In my set, it's probably I'll take a little acoustic.
It depends how long the set is. But I like
to be mean just the audience. But those shows were acoustic,
so it's just me. I brought my guitar player, Chad,
and I'd probably roll. I mean, we got like eight
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song seven songs. I probably rolled four of those on piano,
and then I just get bored. I don't want to
stand behind the piano the whole time. Feels like I'm
you know, I like, I imagine me wanting attention. I
just like being up front.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Do you feel most comfortable instrument wise with the piano, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
For sure. It's just like I don't have to think
about it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That would be so cool.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You're a guitar player though.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
No I'm not. But I took lessons on pian I'm
not a good guitar player. I'll play well enough to
be able to do comedy. Not good. I can't sing either,
but I sing, you.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Know I got to be he's good.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh, you gotta be as confident. Honestly, if you trick
people into thinking you're good, sometimes they're like, I guess
he's believe you're Like, well, I guess this is good.
He looks like he's thinks he's good, so why not
believe it? Yeah? So I took piano lessons as an adult.
Really struggled. Really, I was probably.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Were they teaching you theory though? Or were they teaching
you like how to read notes?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
That second one? Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well that's yeah. You would love theory theory just taking
so essentially just taking what you already know on guitar
and just laying it flat on a keyboard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't know enough on guitar to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
M you would you anyone can pick up the National
number system easy. I'm actually teaching my husband right now. Yeah,
it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
The National numbers system is interesting because I've recorded enough
music to hear them all doing it. Yeah quickly too.
They'll pull up the sheet and be like all right
one one four three three, And I have no idea,
but I'm like, yeah, that's good. I like that. Yeah,
one four three three, Yeah, that that seems to work.
Could you have been a pianist? I think so if
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you would have focused on that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That was my dream. Initially. It was like when I
was eight, I would I was classically trained and would
travel Texas doing piano competitions.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh you woul compete it? Wow?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I was such a nerve bob. I still am a nerd,
but yeah, when I was really little, my piano teacher,
like we thought we were on the road to going
for Juilliard, and I thought that's where I needed to
go to like do music.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I just don't think that's a nerd thing. I think
that's an awesome thing. Like I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I was homeschooled on top of that, so we can
argue what's nerdy ones.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
The homeschool thing is and I knew that. And also
you look like your sisters. I mean it's crazy, right,
do you see it? Because sometimes people can't see when
they like my sister, People say, you guys look like
kind of or not really? Do you see it?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh, like half of us are. It's funny because me
and Avery, they call us like we're like the two
brown ones. Like that's where my mom's side of the
family comes out. And then my two twin sisters. It's
like unfair, how gorgeous they are because they got like
my mom's dark hair, my dad's blue eyes, and that
olive skin. And then yeah, but we I think we're
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all we.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All look super like how many total brothers sisters?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Seven of us and the six girls. One boy and
he's he's he's our obb only baby boy.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
The seventh was the only boy. Yeah, were they were
your parents gonna keep trying until no.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So he actually and I don't want to say, he's
only like thirteen, so I don't want to tell too
much of his story. But we adopted him.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
He was adopted and it was one of those things
where he's actually like my third or fourth cousin, but
he is my.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Brother, but he's also still in the family.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh anyway, Oh, he's my brother, like we got him.
I remember my mom just came home with him. He
was like two weeks old and we're just obsessed with him.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Does your sisters do they like your husband?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh, oh my gosh, everybody's got crush on my husband.
They won't admit it. Everybody's got a little crush on
my husband.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
What's he like when he's around all your sisters?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Oh? Man, what is he like? He's just he's just
he's really good at taking jokes. Like we're pretty mean
when we I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
If you're like you make fun of each other, but
how you show you love each other.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
We make so much fun of each other, like we
just freaking don't know how to stop. And Tyler's really really,
really great at taking a joke, like he can laugh
at himself. He'll fire one bag. My little sister Avery
and him, like they are so funny in the family
group chat. They are just like like making fun of
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each other the whole time.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Do you guys have a group that he's not in
and then also a group that he is in.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We have too many. We have too many group chats,
and it gets us in trouble because we're like, oh,
wrong group chat, wrong group child. Like me and my sister,
it's just me and my like ashling, me and Aaron
and Emilyo's four oldest girls. We're just like kind of
talking crap about everybody the old time with that GM
and then there's one with the little little sisters Ariy Olivia,
and then one with the Tyler and Skyler. They're the
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only like boy in laws at the moment. We'll see
if we'll see if the other boys my sisters are
dating make the cut. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's tough to get brought into a six.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Man We're really we're pretty, we're pretty ruthless. Who's the oldest, Ashlyn?
She's my big sister, so I'm the second.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Got it. Yeah, so when there are six girls, pardon
my crass question here, but when they're sing, I wouldn't
you guys like fart on each other and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
They're disgusting, Like I think, girls we are so much
more gross than boys.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
We just do it more outwardly.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
No, we're privately discussing.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I wonder because if you give three boys together farting
on each other all the time, that used to be.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
My wake up call growing up, Like you know, should
come in to be like good morning, You're like okay,
and the fights about clothes and just like I mean,
we would probably slap each other harder than like the
UFC like hit each other.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean, yeah, anybody else do music, everybody and non form.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Not professionally. But all my sisters sing like we grew
up singing in church together and they're all incredible, Like
Aaron and Emiley still keep up their chops on the
classical piano. I mean they're like the touch they have
on keys is incredible. So yeah, we all get together
and sing.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And water or something.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
It's fun. Oh I love the water. Actually, I started,
what are you drinking there?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's a beer?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You don't drink I know it's.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And I saw thirty calories on that. I was like,
what kind of beer.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Do you want to water?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I love water.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's a whole time. It's uh, it's it's a kimbucha.
But when it's called hum and I do you like kimbucha? Like?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It didn't make you bloated or anything?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
It does a little makes a burp a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But when I was doing whole thirty there you.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Go, Oh you guys have the I love the box water.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Hey, one environmental step at a time.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You couldn't have I coudn't have sugar when I was
doing Whole thirty and that's just about eating natural stuff.
When'd you do that, probably nine ten months ago.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's pretty amazing. Do you feel better mentally when you're.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, there's no, there's not near as much brain. Everything's better.
And it's not a crazy diet like one of these
novel diets. It's just you don't eat processed food and
only really stuff that comes from the ground or animal,
but no sugar. And I love sugar. I eat sugar
all day. It's my favorite thing. Sugar. I would only
eat sugar. That would be the only thing. I would
have sugar for breakfast, lunch, dinner, yeah, main meal, and dessert.
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But these kombuchas that were Whole thirty and I just
got kind of it was like the one thing I
could really like. Yeah, yeah, because I love soda and
I don't drink it almost maybe two a year. Yeah,
I would drink a three liters a mountain to a day.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You that's just like a discipline. You're like, I'm just
not going to do soda.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I would like to do soda still, Yeah, yeah, because
I felt like it was not as much pleasure as
it was pain no meaning I would drink it and
just feel bad. Or I'd be working, I have a
TV shoot or something, and I would be like not
liking how I would look in whatever clothes they were
gonna put me. And mostly all the gross sugar I
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was eating. It wasn't so much a body everything. I
can just see all the sugar and I can.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
See it in my face, yeah face, and I'm like,
that's not worth Like, thank God, I think God made
me vain so that I would be healthy, because I'm like,
if I didn't, if i didn't see it on my
face what I was eating, because as soon as I
eat sugar or like sugar, any of that or the
SODA's like I'll start breaking out. Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We were having You and I were having dinner at
Cheesecake Factory in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Beat twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Is that when it was and you were telling me
about this guy you were dating who's like a lawyer,
and you were drunk.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
The Lord did I say it was a little I
don't remember.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I'm just telling you what it's like. Your Grandma's story.
We're both drunk. You were you were, but whatever his
job was, you drive back and forth to Atlanta, he
drive here. Yeah, and you were like, I think this
could bet you got married. So how's marriage been for you?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Love it? I think it's been. I think what was
different about when I knew I loved Tyler was like
every every person I dated before him, I always felt
like I had to choose. It's like, you either get married,
you pick the guy, or you can do music, or
you can pursue what you love. And Tyler was the
first guy who was just like so unthreatened, just refreshing.
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Oh my gosh, it's like the hottest thing ever to
just have a man like stand by you and just
be like freaking go fly and call me when you
can go do your thing. And he's got his thing,
and it's just we're both free, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And I'm assuming it's not lawyering, no reason.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He's a he's a broker, he's a tech.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Broker, something that like.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
The CARMACKX of texts. Why I tell people?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And when did you feel like it was different? How
long into it?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh? It was quick. It was like first date, literally
our first date. I remember you picking me up from
my hotel, and first of all, he's just so damn
good looking. Then I was just like okay, you know,
I was already in and and I just remember thinking
after that date, like, Okay, are we probably going to
see each other? Probably not again because he's in Atlanta.
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I was on radio tour at the time, you know
how that goes. But I remember thinking like, man, if
I don't marry him, like I want a guy just
like him, Like that's the caliber I want.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And how did you guys do the distance?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
We just did, Like it was the most easy thing
to figure out. I don't even know how, Like we
just didn't sleep. It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
See, my wife and I did distance for a while too,
and it was not fun because she was not That
was like flying right, it was. It was California and
it was tough.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But y'all did y'all start getting really serious during cod though.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Because we started dating three or four months before COVID.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
And then COVID happened and it was only gonna last
a couple of weeks, so it was like, just come
stay here for a couple of weeks, and then that
turned into months. Obviously, and then it was, well, I
guess everything's gonna go back to normal. So you're not
gonna move out or you're not gonna go away, are you?
I guess not. And so that it just kind of
happened like that. What about you guys as far as
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like he had to move here?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, And that was a that was a big conversation
for us because he's a Georgia boy and he likes
his woods and fishing and just being out in nature.
And I think what's cool is he never made me
be the one to ask. I think he just forget
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how that happened. He was just kind of like, you know,
I'm I realized, like I'm gonna need to move.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You had a song back in the day. I'm not
gonna put a year it because I don't know yours obviously,
because thought we hung out last week. Yeah, my sense
of time is completely off. That Make Them White song, which.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh yeah, oh man, I have a love favorite relationship
with that song.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
That's what I was gonna ask you about. So what
is your love Let's go, what is your love relationship
with that song?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, I don't be careful I talk about it because
I love that I know, I know people were introduced
to me because of that song.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That's okay. I think I'm not lost on that, and
I don't think anybody thinks you are.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You know, it's my first radio single.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
But if they still know you, they know that you
live an authentic yeah life, and you would probably say
to them if they were here, just like you're talking
to me, whatever your answer is here. Yeah, I don't
think anyone's going to be disappointed by your answers long.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
As I'm just outgrown it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
But what was the good part about It's what I'm
asking what introduce me to about it? And then what?
Because it is a feel way young, like I'm gonna
make a young like teeny.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Because I'm like, man, if I was nineteen year a girl,
I don't really make them white, no one, well, no, no,
I don't know. I don't know. I still think. I
still love the principle of the song, which is like,
I love that a lot of girls were like man,
I realized my worst because of this song, and that's dope.
And that's some of my parents always taught me and
my sisters, like the girl has the power, the man
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courts the girl, but you decide where and when it goes,
you know. So I'm glad like people got that message.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
What's the hardest part about being married?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I've only been married to I'm sane, if you're so.
I asked that because for us, I think the hardest
part has been for her having to deal with me,
as in I'd never really been in a relationship, like
a real relationship. Yeah, until her, even there's like a
long term not even romantic, but even at all, because
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you know, I wasn't close with my parents, and except
for my grandma who raised me a lot of my life,
I really didn't have I didn't know how to be
close to somebody at all. So she's had to go
through a lot of those growing pains where it's like
I am nineteen in that part of my life. And
I think that's been hard. I mean, kind of but
also annoying for her.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Is it like she just knows your trigger points and
knows when you're like fishing away.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
She had to learn the trigger points, and that's never
You only learn them if you get triggered. You know.
It's not like I'm like, here are my trigger points.
You haven't never seen them, but these could be them.
But you know, there are a lot of things that
would make me very uncomfortable, just intimacy in general, because
I'd never experienced that, at least to that.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Like just vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
And I still struggle with it, but I am a
lot better at it because of her. But that's probably
been the hardest thing that And then I work a lot,
and I think I used to work even some just
to fill space because I didn't want to have empty
space because I felt like I felt like a freaking
loser and so and so. Yeah, so I didn't want
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to be a loose.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
I mean, I just felt like it when you have
like a quiet moment, your brain starts.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Spiraling a little bit, a lot of bit. Yeah, and
so I wouldn't allow that to happen.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And so do you feel more comfortable in the quiet now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm okay in the quiet. Then I'll
just find something to do. So I would do then,
but you know what, for her, I would be with her,
but I would still be looking for something to do. Yeah,
And that really that's not it. I'm supposed to be
trying to spend supposed to spend time with her. Trying so,
but it's been.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
It's nice to feel unconditional love. Yeah, and like allowing
someone to love you unconditionally.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
That is the harder part. I feel that the second.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Part, like what do you mean? I don't have to
prove myself. I don't have to constant do something.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Like why do I deserve this? Because it never really.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Had it and you didn't have to try for it.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
It just it's just right. So but I also, it
came so easy. I feel like I could leave so easy,
and I think that was a big problem.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Damn. I feel that, Like I feel like I didn't
have to look. I wasn't looking, And I feel like
a lot of times this is interesting, that's an interesting
thought of Like sometimes I feel like I try to work,
quote unquote work for the things that God just wants
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to give me. It's like, why can't I just let
him give me the gift and give me a blessing without?
Oh God, I like I'm working for it, Like no,
what if he's saying, sit down, let me just give
you a.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Gift, why don't we just accept it? Probably because if
we think if it's free, it's not real, it's not valuable.
We think we're not worthy of it. We think we're
not worthy of a gift. Yeah, I think I struggle
even getting normal gifts when people. I never open them
upront of people.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I'll open a card in front of someone. But yeah,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
What's been what's the hardest thing for your husband? What's
been something he's had to work through because either growing
up with all sisters or growing up you know, we
all have our own stories.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Hmm. I think I would have to ask him. I
don't want to put words in his mouth or anything,
because he's just so steady, like he's I feel like
he's so good at loving people, and like he's so
good at loving me. I don't I don't think there's
any man who could show me the kind of love
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that he does. Is his patience and just lets me
be free and lets me roam and lets me create,
and he's so un threatened by it and anytime. And
he's a hard cookie to crack too, though, Like I'm
such an artist and I'm such a little like Pisce.
He's emotional. I'm like, tell me what you're thinking, tell
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me what you're feeling, and he's like, no, I'm just
thinking and I'm like, that's the fun of thinking is
telling people what you're thinking. No, tell me everything. He's
just a thinker man. So I'm honestly, you're gonna for
a little marriage conversation. I'm like, what are you uh?
What are you struggling with right now?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Well it doesn't have to be now, but you know,
and too, even with me, even two roommates to move
in together, there's always.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
I know, I annoyed the hell out of him, like he.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Says, by doing what though? By doing what do you
think is annoying about you?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Free and everything? I think I'm so annoying.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
But do you think you're loud? Think? Yes, dude, yes,
But I don't think that's annoyed because I'm not with
you twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean, he loves me for it. But he did
tell me, like he said he didn't know after our
first date because I'm so I'm so like into myself
sometimes too, And I asked him, I was like, what
was your first thought about me, you know, on our
first date? And he was like, I thought you were
the loudest girl I've ever met in my life. And
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I was like, oh, like I thought he was gonna
say like, oh my gosh, you're so hot. Like what
He's like, no, you were allowed to be Like.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Where did you guys go on your first date.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Jenny's He thinks, well, he had. He had planned out
a whole night because I was supposed to get into
Atlanta again this one radio tour and I we had
a whole conversation, like on the phone conversation. He's such
a gentleman, like call me on the phone, tell me
the plan, made the plans, and so he had. He
had texted me. He's like, hey, is your eta still
seven pm tonight? And I was like, should be seven pm?
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Turns to eight, eight pm turns to nine. I don't
get to my hotel till ten thirty. And by this time,
the dinner reservations out the door. All of his plans
are out the door. So he picks me up and
and he was like, is it okay if I take
you to ice cream? And I just wanted to be
with him. We got set up. So my big sister
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and now my really good friends, Tyler's really good friends
Jarrett and McKinley brock. They were Ashland my big sister
and then were good friends up in New York and
they were at dinner one night and the Brocks were like, Hey,
we have this guy. We're trying to find him a girl.
He's such a stud, He's this a sis. And my
big sister, knowing me, she saw one picture of him
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and she was like, oh, Abby would love him so
that she just picked me a picture of him, and
she was like, hey, he lives in Georgia. I know
you're gonna be there in like a couple of weeks,
and we want to set y'all up. And I was like,
he can call me.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I let him call how long until he did?
Speaker 1 (47:24):
He like, asked for my schedule? Are they the our
friends asked for my schedule? I made it really dramatic
and I didn't need to, but I was just having fun.
So it was like the next day or so, you.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Got engaged on a boat.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
We got he Yeah, we were all. George has become
like my safe haven and we have a couple of
properties out there, lake houses, and so it just became
our COVID hideaway, you know. And yeah, he took me
out in my canoe and to me in the woods.
I had a gut the only reason I had a
gut feeling it was coming. Was because I was depressed
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as hell, and this was like I was so freaking
sad during COVID and this was like right after I
left the label, like everything, and my sisters were all
there and they came down the stairs and they were like, hey,
like what if you didn't wear a sweatshirt today? Like
what if you took your shower?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:21):
And I was like, what is going on? So I
was still wearing a sweatshirt. I just put a clean
one on, and that he proposed to me in this
oh whatever, it was perfect though he's a stud.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah I think so. He said it many times, just
like yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So it's nice to like your spouse. Yeah, you know,
I know a lot of people don't like their spous
I'm like I was.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, and you'll go through little probably many seasons where
oh for sure, we've gone through mini sit where you
don't like them but you still love them. Yeah, because
I know there are times where I'm not very likable.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Same and I'm I'm less likable than he is. He's
very likable.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
How are you like you're the most likable. I forget
how likable you are.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, but you only see You're only gonna see me
for an hour today, Bobby, he has to see me
all day, all the time. I'm not arguing I can
be likable for an hour.
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Speaker 1 (49:33):
I feel like I'm working again.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, back on the road. Is that fun?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah? I missed it. I think for a long time,
I like try to talk myself out of what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Because you may not get it.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh I felt that really, like just those
moments of like fabilitating.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Down yes, where it's like you're convincing yourself you don't
want it, but actually you're just telling yourself you're so
scared that if you don't get it, that you'll just
be such a failure. So you're just gonna go and
say you don' want it, so therefore it can't better,
like crazy?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Do you still do that?
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yes? All the time?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
And what's the discipline there to like not let yourself
talk yourself out.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Of it acknowledging it that that's what it is okay
because this fear, Yeah, because it'll never not happen. You're
wired in that way. It's all my stay safe, yep,
and to look for safety because it hasn't always been
safe growing up, and so you want safety, So what's safe?
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And I would do it, and I felt like because
of survival, I would not allow myself because I had
to get to a different place. But then I started
to realize, you know, I think I'm just doing this
because I'm scared that if it doesn't work out, that
I'll be a total loser and I will not be
what I thought I could be. And the fact that
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I could acknowledge it actually allowed me to put it.
Didn't make it easier, but it allowed me to just
keep going, knowing that I wasn't wanting to quit for
anything that was rational and logical. It was just fear.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Is it ever a fear of being seen.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
In what way? Or being heard of not being seen.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Or heard of being seen or heard?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Why do you think people if they finally see who
you are, they're not gonna like you?
Speaker 1 (51:22):
No, Because again, I think I'm pretty likable at.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Least for an hour. For an hour, you're the most
likable person, so I do.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I don't know. I've been asking myself that question.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Explain that question though, because I don't understand the question.
For me, my fear has always been if I show
my real self and NOE, people are not going to
like me. So it was let me try to be
especially early, let me try to be exactly what I
think I should be, because I can. I can chameleon
into anything.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
I was a chameleon. I was like, I can make
you like me. I know what you want, and I
was how to be yes you want.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
And I was really good at it and it didn't matter.
I could go wherever. And I think I kind of
had to be that anyway growing up because there were
just I was uncomfortable a lot growing up. So I
had to figure out how to read people where I
was safe where I wasn't, And that was just a
natural skill. But then I was worried if I was
my real self that nobody would actually like the real version.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Maybe that's what it is then, Yeah, because I found
for a long time I didn't even know there was
a maybe you relate to this. There was a long
time where I didn't even know what I liked.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, I still that's still a struggle with me.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It's still a struggle for me and I literally it's
a discipline I have to do every single day, if
it's cover art work. Even there was a minute, Bobby,
this is like kind of sad. I had to wake
up and ask myself what do I want to wear today?
How do I want to do my hair today? Like
that was a practice and I still have to practice
that rewiringes. For so long, I was told what to wear.
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I was told what's modest and what's not and what
makes me worthy and what doesn't. And I've never asked myself,
does this make me feel good? Do I like this?
And I proud of this? Oh my gosh, I'm like,
I'm twenty six years old.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
I'm still you're having to rewire your brain.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Still I'm rewiring my brain all fun.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
And almost impossible, but can be done.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
And I had to. I think I'm learning to like
I don't have to have it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
To you'll never fee be successful, never figured out. And
the people that haven't figured out actually don't. We just
think they do, and that you would ask them and
they would admit they don't. Also, yeah, nobody has it
figured out. Yeah, some people look better doing it, but
that's not because we're looking from afar.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
But anybody that I know that's been wildly successful in
whatever arena, they will also say I never knew. I
still don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, because there is
no blueprint, really no, especially if you want to do
it to be authentic, if you want to do it
and be a version a one hit wonder pop song,
not even music. But I'm just saying, like something that
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people like and then forget but have a little bit
of success, that's probably that's probably able to be done,
but it's not able to be sustain Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
I feel like the last couple of years has been
such a blessing for me, Like, I I know what
not being authentic feels like.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
And did you know you weren't being authentic? Though? When
you weren't being authentic? Because I don't know that I did.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I just knew I wanted to make people happy.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
I just wanted to entertain I just.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Wanted to be the entertainer. And I feel like the
last couple of years has been such a practice for me,
a practice of practicing authenticity and like and just realizing
I'm like God, and I pray for those opportunities. I'm like, God,
give me, give me an opportunity today to practice authenticity
and to say no or to say yes, and those
(54:39):
opportunities will come. And you're like, oh, period is you know?
It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I keep a note on my phone of every lie
I tell.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Why, Gosh, this sounds terrible. I couldn't keep up with
mine honestly, Well, what do you mean by what do
you mean? Like? What kind of lies? Just lying to yourself?
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Uh? Because it makes me uncomfortable at times to even
tell lies that I'm telling as like a white lie
or to make to appease somebody, and in the end
it usually comes back not a net positive. So I
keep a list of lies just to remind me. I
don't want to lie, even if it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
So this is like after a conversation you've had with someone.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's just an accountability thing, even if it's like, oh
I like that, but you don't. For example, I was
on a podcast talking with Eddie, who's my best friend,
and I told him I had talked to this guy
named John Middlecop, but I didn't talk him. I'd only texted
with him and that really wasn't even in my mind,
really wasn't alive. But then it got off and I
was like, you know what, no, only I lied.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, so it is I like that, Wait, that might
pick up up.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
It's just an accountability thing for me because I have
to keep track of it, I notice it more. Yeah,
and therefore I am. I feel like I'm pursuing and
I'm conscious of a more somewhat more authentic version. But
sometimes sucks. It's not supposed to be easy. Though it's easy,
everybody will be doing it.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
Are you going to therapy? It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, I mean I go to my I have my
own therapist who I finally have one that I really
like that challenges me hard, that makes me uncomfortable. And
then my wife and I have one and we started going.
It's the greatest counseling for us. Is awesome and it's hard,
and but it makes everything else easier. It's like lifting weight.
(56:30):
You get a lot. It sucks, like working out, but
then you're just a lot stronger, so great after Yeah,
it just feels good. What's up? So what? What what's
happening with this music? What's it what's the deal.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
We're working on it right now. I'm practicing authenticity.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, like are you are you gonna dribble out songs
one at a time?
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I don't know yet. I'm in this still. I'm writing
a ton and I've got like, as of right now,
i have like a handful of songs I'm stoked about.
And so now I do feel pressure, Like I'm feeling like, Okay,
there's a lot of eyes on it, and like you know,
hard on Fire Mexico. I'm super thankful that like brought
(57:09):
in a whole new audience and that's the song. And now,
I mean, I hope it still is a song you
never in today's world, like anything could be bigger than
it is was ten years ago. You never know. And
I love that song. But I am feeling I do
feel a little pressure of like, Okay, this next stuff,
it's got to be better than what I've done, but I.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
It doesn't though it doesn't have to compare at all.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
It's more like raising my internal standard.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
That's great. That's what if you want to do that
and it's healthy for you to do that feels healthy.
As long as it feels healthy.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, but you can psych
yourself out too, like I'll doubt myself.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
You know you always will. Yeah, you never won't.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, And that's a comforting thought, honestly.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
But it's both. It's you feel stupid and scary. It's
scary because you're like, i'll never get opened to get
through this, I'll always be this way. But then when
you realize you'll always be this way again, you can
acknowledge it and move through it knowing that it's not
the end. Yeah, I remember, and we'll wrap on this.
But I remember the last time you and I had
talked on the phone and you were like, I want
(58:15):
to do I want to be more of an online
like or a social media I have a presence and
I want to do me. I was like, you that person,
that's you. You have such a there's such an attraction
to just your energy in general, and I even forget
about it sometimes until I see you. And I was
just like, just be you. And I'm not in any
way saying I did or said anything. I didn't say anything.
(58:36):
It's the most generic thing ever, but I believed it.
But that's what you did, and it's just I've just
watched you blow up by just being you, and I
didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Like people will always say, like, oh, just be yourself.
I'm like, I don't know what myself is though, and
I'm still figuring that out now. I'm like, oh, like,
I know when I like something, and I don't have
a problem telling someone I like that I don't. That
feels great. But I'm still like just the chiseling away
down to the core.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
And not to as they say, beat it dead horse.
But you will never figure it all out, even about yourself,
because you're always changing, Yeah, and so you'll never it's
you'll always be chiseling.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, And I like that. That's a fun thought.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
And it's terrifying at the same time. Yeah, because you
never have a grasp. That's the terrifying part of it.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
But then when you realize you'll never have a grasp,
then you don't hold yourself to a standard of I
must have a grasp because everybody else does well, they
don't either.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
I just like to think about like we're all going
to die.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
I think about it all the time. We're just organically
that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
That's the most comforting to me. It's like, you know what,
when I'm ninety eight and I'm on my deathbed the
most comforting. I'm like, I just want to make sure
that that woman is proud of me today. And it's like,
you know what, even if it doesn't go, even if
all my hopes and dreams don't happen, whatever, Like I
(59:55):
did my best and I freaking went for it.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
You guys. Abby on Instagram Abby and Anderson Music TikTok
Abby Anderson Music. I don't know, whenever you're ready, come
up to the show. We can set it up whenever.
It just use the use the golden ticket whenever.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You want me know, when like a fun time.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
It's not that, it's just when you have whatever. If
you want to, I want to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I want to co host one day.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Okay, if Amy's ever out, I'll call you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Well, you'd have to, probably you do media training for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Our show. For our show, nobody's ever had media training. Really,
there's a type of person that needs media training, and
there's a type of person that needs to be told, hey,
chilled just a little bit. Yeah, you don't need media
training except for now you know exactly what you're doing.
(01:00:45):
Except for sometimes early on you just wouldn't stop. Oh
my god, and it'd be like hold on, hold on,
hold on, Like I like what you're doing. We're gonna
get back to just hold on once. But I think
it was just it's just trying to do too much. Yeah,
we all do that. We all do that. Yeah, but
some people need media training, some people don't. You're a natural.
You can host the show. Amy's never had media training.
(01:01:06):
None of us have had media training. We just got
in the media.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
And I just get scared of what I'm gonna say sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You know same, but like, hey, there's an art to this,
and there's an art to not thinking there's an art
to it. Therefore it's even better. So yeah, so whenever
you if you want to do hard off Fire in Mexico, great,
you want to toe any music comes out, whatever you want,
let me know, come up, we'll have fun. I really
enjoyed it. I always enjoyed it. I forget how much
I enjoy hanging out with you until I hang out
with you again, so I'll probably gonna forget again until
(01:01:34):
next time. But you're awesome. Yeah, you're awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
You can forget about alcohol back around.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I believe it. At Abby Anderson Music on Instagram and
TikTok and you guys go follow her please. She's awesome,
as you can tell by the last hour.
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
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