#436 - Brothers Dan and Reid Isbell (The Kind of Love We Make) on Living In a Boat Trying to Make It as Songwriters + Their Love of Duck Hunting + Bobby Gives Them Advice on Their New Podcast - Bobbycast

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Finally, I just crumb on the blue and was like,
I'll tell you what's happening. I'm thirty years old, I
got nothing going on. All my buddies are buying their
second trucks. I'm stuck in a house. But with you
cats eating crappy every two days, I'm exhausted.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
In episode four thirty six with brothers Dan and Reed
isbel which, by the way, their songwriters, their podcasters had
a lot of fun doing this one. This one, to
me seemed pretty easy and pretty fun because I just
enjoyed the guys and I can kind of lean back
a little bit and let them do some of the
work too, because they're also funny. So just songwriting wise,

(00:42):
they co wrote The Kind of Love We Make with
Luke Combs. Dan had Better Together, Love You Anyway with
Luke Combs. Reid had John Parties Mister Saturday Night. They
have this podcast called God's Country and so they, you know,
talk about country music and the outdoors, and you'll hear
a lot more about it here. But I don't know.
I didn't know these guys, and I really found myself

(01:04):
enjoying just hanging out and talking because we weren't talking
about anything specific. Even we talked about them a little bit,
but then it just turned into let's just kind of
address things that are happening now, and I like those
kind of podcasts.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, and it felt like we knew them already. That's
how like friendly they were. Okay, did we go to
high school together?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
And when I start to like bust their balls or
you know, some of the stuff when I'm talking about
podcasting and that just it just felt like we had
known each other work together for a long time. So
I thought it was super cool. This is one of
the most like I have fun other times, and sometimes
they're not that fun because I'm so in my own
head about not doing a bad job. Like there are

(01:43):
some people that come in and I'm like, oh man,
I don't want to screw this one up, so I
don't know that I have fun till it's over. This
one actually had fun while I was doing it. So
the Gods Country Podcast, check it out. I think you're
gonna like these guys. Go subscribe to their podcast after this,
if you know, if it interests you, and we'll do
episode four thirty six right now, Dan and read his
bell in the God's Country Podcast. Here you go. So

(02:05):
have we decided that we're gonna wear one headphones?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't care, no know you if you want to
wear them, wear them.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I just have no clue.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's just if you're not getting you're not gonna miss anything.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
No, no, I'm just saying, how my volume.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
If you stay at that level and not screaming like
you did a minute ago, it feels pretty good. I
might get excited about it, like a minute to go
something you doing like screaming podcast Chi See that's not bad.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The other one, though, we.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Were Yeah, if it gets out of control, will scort
you out with our with.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Our own is serious?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I use that. It's like a Bob Barker you
know that is yes, well, I don't know. You're younger
than I am.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, I know Bob BB.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
But he would do the thin mark, the thin microphone
on that is Oh yeah, sup?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
With that?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
It is kind of it's very uh yeah, what was
the show? What's that show?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
That he died recently?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Last year?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm sure we talked about it. I just remember who
dies and who doesn't die.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
He died in ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
You're out of your mind.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
In ninety nine year he was ninety nine years old.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh god, it dang Betty White.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, see.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Like it makes no no, no, I've been everywhere. That's why
it's not that I've been nowhere. It's that there's just
so much stimuli all the time that I don't I
feel that it's hard for me to sit with stuff
and go, oh, yeah, who else has died recently?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
She was also ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Has anyone hit a hundred that we care about?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Nah? They get close and then.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, Betty White was real close.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Who's that?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Whose wife is that?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I have no clue, Betty White, I've known one of
you guys.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I heard you say that's your wife and manager, but
he said manager and wife. Yeah, And I met her, Jordan.
I met her over there two Jordan. Oh do people
call you jordanan too, because it's spelled like that.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I call her big don Yeah, don't what do you?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I got a bunch stuff talk about. I want to
about the podcast. We'll talk about the music that eventually
led to the podcast. But what was the story you
were going to tell me before we started? And I
was like, well, hold off a second, if it's good.
You told me like five bad stories in a row
and if I was like, it's one of those just
keep going, but you were like, no, this one's good
for a change.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I didn't say it was necessarily ahead.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's not good pressure.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Hey, everybody, get ready to the best story. Get ready
for a great story.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
All I was asking about was I was just gonna
ask you if you knew about Wilson, Arkansas. You know
where that is where just above Memphis, probably forty five
minutes on the forest side.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
No.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I lived in from Arkansas, played ball in Arkansas. I
guess we didn't go. Jonesborough is about furthest right we went.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
This is like duck world. Like, it's on the Mississippi
River right there. We were just there a couple of
weeks ago, and it's it's the craziest.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Duck hunting on somebody's lease. Yeah, somebody's property.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah. So we were going up through there and all
of a sudden, this little town pops out of note
I mean literally it's like highway for a long time.
Nothing town pops up like super nice.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Nice little spot you'll ever high school.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Then there was like this random, mega nice gym in
the middle of a field with nowhere to know, not
even a parking lot.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So all the duck honey money is there.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well, turns out one guy owns the whole town.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is his name Wilson?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
I think his name is no hilarious.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I don't think it is anyway, our brother in law,
we have another brother in law. Just text us and
was like, dude, found out the scoop on Wilson, Arkansas.
It's one guy. He's like some bazillionaire lives in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Just lives in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Do you know what a Michelin restaurant?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I do? Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, did you know that the actual tire company is what?
Is still? What that is?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I learned all that this Wilson Cafe and.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Wilson it's a they have a they have a Michelin star,
five star bro five. It's no way, there's no way,
There's no way. Wilson, Arkansas. I don't think anybody can
chills five stars.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Unless somebody was lying. They said it was the nicest.
It was nicer than any restaurant. Okay, well that could
be a two star Michelin. I mean that the Michelin star.
They said five.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like I go to places in Vegas there were way
expensive way good, and they'd be like, this is a
two and a half star.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm just saying if they if they got us. I mean,
like I was. We went to that place thinking like
we were in sweat.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Pasttants because we didn't know to do camp. You don't
thinking some five star Michelin.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't think you did. Though, Okay, we got what's
do you know what it's called? There's no way because
because to have a fist.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Come up when you google Wilson Cafe Michelin.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, but to have a five star or even to
get one star, two star, three stars, you have to
have like a Micheline chef. Who's gon what Michelin chef's
gonna live in Wilson bro I.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Think it's just a Mitchell star. I think it's Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Mitchell is a throwing star.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Now you yeah, you guys, you guys have been had.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
We're all in the same team here. I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
We were like, well, then our friends are liars.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Maybe they were lied to.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
But Mike, would you look up a five star Michelin
restaurant though, just period in the United States, because if
it had a Michelin star that's a big that's a
massive deal itself.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
They were saying this to be one like more like
better than any restaurant.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
What I said, I said that, and then we ate there.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, fine, it's fine. Yeah it's super expensive.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
See I feel like I'm just smash for it.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
No, no, what you were saying, still, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You can't build it. You can't build it up. And you, guys,
what made it not good is they built it up
to you. I bet if you went to it and
you were like, there's a restaurant in Wilson, Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I had been a freaking awesome I'm not going on
the records. It was really good. It was probably it can't.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Live up to a five star expectation though. It's like
movies from somebody, this is the greatest movie ever. Even
if it's awesome, I'll be like, man, it was overhyped.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
See I've never but we've never eaten any like. I
don't even know what Michelin was, so I didn't really
go in expecting it.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
To be just out of this world.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, Mike, what do you have?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I went to the official website that has every restaurant listed.
There's sixteen thousand Michelin Star restaurants in the United States.
There are zero in Wilson, Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Are there any in Arkansas at all? Let's see, because
I would think there would be less than three, if any.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I also want to know what the very top one is,
like the best Michelan restaurant.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
And see if I can.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
They's just if it's like the mischell Entire Center. They
just give themselves that, like I got one ship like
a concession stand though it's not even good, but they
get to give themselves five stars because they bus they
own the brand. Does it?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Does it can only search by city?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Look up Little Rock.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Little Rock has none.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, they were not gonna look up Nashville.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Nashville doesn't have one.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm telling you. It was so rare when you guys
are like Wilson, Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
They listen. Man.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
They I called Jordan. I was like, Hey, we're going
to like a Michelan restaurant.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
She was like, Michelin store.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well that's what I said. When you said that too,
I was like, in the whole state, I couldn't believe
we had one.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
So much so that they gave us the same story
you did about it being the Michelin tire shop. They
gave us that whole rundown about this.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's maybe they have five Michelin tires in the back
and where five.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Could have been a Michelin tire shop once it was
a Michelan our shop that is now a Cafe.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Star to Star five wheels, Star Wheels five Michelan Wheels wheels.
So yeah, that I like the story because of where
we took it.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Thanks for cleaning it.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, it made it way better. That was not a
good story, No, it went.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It went somewhere well as a story itself. It started
down here fine, but you needed a real pro like
me to make it special.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
That was not a Michelin Star story, but it was.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I never said anything about that.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
The closest one to us is in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
The restaurant is it? Then how are there sixteen thousand
Michelin Star restaurants if there's none in the area.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're just all in New York.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Remembering clustered in like big, bigger they are, like a
lot of them. Is the one in Sydney, But this
is only America. Oh yeah, like Sydney Tennessee is like Wilson, Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
There's definitely not a I've misread sixteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Okay, that's still a lot, but way different sixteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Man, I hope those duck guys don't listen to this.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's real sad they don't. They don't, Well, they might
they from Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well it's the Davis brothers. Oh well, Jordan ago, but
Jacob was with us.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, Jacob Davis was there. Yeah, but he wasn't like
the duck guy that told us about the thing. He
was just kind of there with us. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't know anyway, Probably Jordan told you guys that
probably liar. So you guys are brothers, our whole.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
What's it?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
What's the age gap?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, m m, this is older.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I heard you make a comment earlier of be cheating
because you said you're the big brother. Yeah. Oh wait,
so you can say that's fine podcast. Yeah, so I
heard you say you're older, but I don't know that
I would have bet it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, either way, it usually people usually guess him for
some weird reason.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
What's what's four? Oh that's a pretty significant gap.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
My sister's four years younger than I am, and it
feels like she's a whole different generation.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Well, we're booking it by girls to like sisters. So
we got my older sister's four years older than him
than him, then he's four years old than me.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Then I'm four years older than my younger sister.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, so sixteen years of kids. Twelve, wait four, then four,
then four six, Well to hold on four times four,
but that doesn't mean the three gaps. So yeah, yeah,
so let's say the oldest math it is four to you,
then you get four to your other they get four. Yeah,
you're you're right, But the easy thing to go is
because I did the same thing initially four times four.

(11:20):
But the gaps?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Are you a math guy?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It was my lowest act. Part of my test. We
had to take a CT where I'm from same okay
most overall thirty one but gus, but no, no, my
math was I got twenty eight. It was the lowest
of all of my all my stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I don't know, man, I made it twenty two when
Missisippi State was like, never took it again.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Twenty six.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, twenty six is really good. I mean twenty but
twenty listen, twenty three. Twenty four gets you like in
state paid tuition wherever you want to go. For me,
I made a twenty whatever enough to get that one
in like ninth grade because I just knew that that's
how I had to get out of my hometown, right,
So I started taking the practice tests and taking the class.
I would go to work and save up and take

(12:06):
the classes to take the test. So I didn't learn
really anything. I just learned how to take the freaking test.
And I think I'm bright a bit. But you guys
know which.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Is part of it?

Speaker 5 (12:15):
That's like absolute ones that score really will are just
really good.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, I'm sure they're Jesus too, but like, yeah,
you got to know how.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
To take the test, like life, you know you can.
You know, you could be a great singer, but unless
you actually know how to sing and know who to
get your singing too and know who to produce it,
you know, what are you talking about? Exactly? You could
be the greatest in the world, but if you don't
know how to how to set it up.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Or possibly the greatest writer in the world.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
So is that you the greatest writer?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
That that what?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That has less than twenty number ones?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So I don't know, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So you brought it up and thenk you're trying to
give me to set you off.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You gotta bet on yourself.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I bet on myself. But I'm not going to say
I'm the greatest. That's less than twenty number ones. There's
a great that is a giant, that is a plethora
of songwriters in this time, really really great great.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I thought you were setting me up to set you
up though. It's what I was feeling that like we're
playing pick up. We hadn't played ever before, but I
could kind of feel like the ball was coming, and
so I guess I didn't the ball hit me in
the face.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, my granddad always said, lest someone else do the
bragging for you.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So I tried. I just literally tried.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
You tried to set me up to do the bragging
on me, he.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Put a compliment of and then you just you rejected
at the rim.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Where do you guys grow up? What town? What's name
of the town?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Tennessee? So again, right where?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
And I always told people this, right where Alabama, Misissippi
and Tennessee meet.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Do they have a name because in Arkansas, Texas we
call it Texas Arcana or arc La text when it's Louisiana,
did they texts? Stupid? I don't call I didn't name
it that. It's a three star name though, three Michelin stars.
But it's arc La Louisiana tech arc La texts is
what that's so? What do they have a name for
that region?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It should be ten to Tennessippy Bama. That would never
work Bamsissippi.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
See, everybody would fight over who's first.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Mammissippy c Tnnissippi Bama was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Those feel like Mary Poppins songs.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Baby was just.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Missis Tippy Bama's not bad? That's kind of got. There's
no Tippy though, miss Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
But Tippy.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
You put Tennisippy Bama.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Miss start with Bama because that's the weird one, mister
ten Obama Bama. Tennis Sippy said, maybe you.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Just did in a little flick and you scanned this
part of the podcast. First we were speaking English. Yeah, yeah,
we're real. We're really wrecking it right now in the best.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Little rivertown and we're river rats right on the Tennessee River,
Pickwick Lake.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
We're real close to that.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
That's where we grew up.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
So I grew up a mountain pine, Arkansas, and really
all there was to do, which is why everybody did.
It was hunting fish basically unless you wanted to go
to town. But town was Hot Springs and that was
thirty thousand people, so it wasn't like city. So that's
what most folks did their whole life. And I did
it my whole life and till I didn't do it anymore.
And I'm just like, eh, I can pay for food.

(15:02):
I don't want to kill any animals. Also, I'm like,
I don't want to kill an animals anymore. I'm you know,
all my friends still hunt like crazy, although duck hunting,
I probably kill some ducks. Duck hunting is the most
fun because it's the most when when you finally have
when they're coming over the top of you and everybody's
claiming they shot it and you know for sure that
Red didn't shoot the thing. But still that's fun. And
if you have a good dog, yeah, dog elevasive, If

(15:23):
you have a good dog, yeah. Other than that, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Duck huts real social too, Like it's like, I mean,
you cook, you can cook some biscuits or breakfast in there,
you know you can.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I guess you guys didn't travel to duck hunt though, right.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I mean Western to see it's only a couple of
hours really, Yeah, it's not that far.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
We didn't have we we could go over to eastern
arcatsall where the timers were flooded and does that or
we could we even we had you know, as semblance
of that where I lived, so we wouldn't really have
to travel. So it didn't feel very social. It just
felt like what we would do, just be there when
the sun comes up, pray to God you don't fall
into water, getting waiters. Yeah, it was like those days, yeah,

(15:59):
for sure, and then and go home. But duck hunt
was my favorite.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
See, we didn't grow up doing that. We were all
turkey and deer that's all we did.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Are still stand.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Dog gun Well, no, no dogs. We it's actually illegal
to it is.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's how little I know about hunting.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Now you can rabbit hunt with dogs, but I mean
you can't big you can't deer hell dogs. Yeah, they've
outlawed it because what ended up happening was you you'd
have people that would turn their dogs loose on their property.
But the deer would jump obviously because he don't know
he don't know flores, so he would jump.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Did They were way smarter than stay Arkansas deer knew
what yeah, yeah, yeah, they probably.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Took the A C P test. But yeah, we unfinished
our whole lives and it intermingled with h you know,
our music and and our.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Dad's a Bautist preacher, so we were always like in
church singing and hymns and and my parents love music.
My mom's a big Elvis fan. Her mama's big olves fan.
Then my dad loved the Doobie Brothers.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And all that. West Tennessee though, like you say my dad,
like he's not my dad too.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well, I didn't know. I don't know if you guys
same day you have West Tennessee, that's I mean, that's
Elvis Land, not I'm talk about Misissippi.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, well, and where where we're from Savannah, Like you
had Memphis two hours east or west. Uh, Nashville was
two hours northwest or northeast.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm terrible with that location. And then the shows are
real close.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
So I mean like you had like a hodgepodge of
a bunch of influence in different styles of music.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
And I think a lot of guy there. I think
a lot of riders from that area. Take Singleton is
one of our best buddies. John Singleton, Jesse Alexander and
all those cats that are kind of from that area
kind of do that. Like it's a little bit of
there's a little bit of rockabilly in there, there's a
lot of soul, and then there's a lot of country.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
There's a lot of black influence, uh, more than just influence,
Like like country music is built on Black artistry and
European artistry.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I mean, I would say almost music period.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, And so you know when you talk about even Elvis, like,
let's be honest, let's be honest, he watched a lot
of really great black artists imitating and just did impressions
and was good told not to.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Right, but that's a great place to live for music.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, we didn't even know it. But honestly, there was
four you know, we had two other siblings. So our
sister was an alto. Our baby sister did some prano stuff.
I was like a baritone and read was.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like way hot. Everybody saying, is that true?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
So everybody's saying we sang all the time parents, because
there would be there would be forty five minutes of
singing every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night,
and so we would be in those I mean we
and it was our dad. Man, we heard that joker
talk so much you just kind of get tired of
like listening to him, right, So we would start swapping
parts in the sitting in the pew with our mom,

(18:54):
and it just taught us natural harmony and and uh,
it really ingrained a lot of those melodies into us
and and kind of translates into what we do now.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Hang tight, the Bobby cast will be right back, and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So nature or nurture. Then, as far as it sounds
like your family is a performers at least, I mean
your dad to be a really effective Baptist preacher. Some
of the Baptist or the best preachers were also great performers.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I would also say storytellers. It was easy. He's very
good when in our family, that's all they do, Like
we get together for Easter and Christmas, and it's just
who's telling the next story and what's dramatic and and
and that that just kind of became our you know mo.
As far as songwriters, like we just wanted to tell stories.

(19:51):
Music was mixed into that a whole lot. Uh, We
we were both kind of into English and writing and expression,
and it just kind of it just kind of fell out.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
When could you guys actually be friends like peers, because
four years is a long time when your kids, like,
that's a pretty decent gap.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, And I was always huge and he was like tiny,
Like for a long time he was like this tall,
So I would like like he would okay, for.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Example, did three inches?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's not well at one time. At one time, sure.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But you didn't know him then.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I didn't know yet, but I had a feeling he
was gonna be a jerk. So I remember I came
in from school one day and I was looking out
the window and read and a neighbor were jumping on
the trampoline, right, And like I said, dude, I was,
I mean, I was.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Probably Dad says Dan came out needing to shave and
a sandwich.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, he said. My sister came out all pretty, and
then then I came out needing to shave the sandwich.
So I've just always been like this, Right, So I
look out the window and I see our neighbor did
kick you the throat. He jumped up and I went black,
and all of a sudden, it was like, wow, he
just karate kicks him in the face, and it was like,
nobody is kicking me, my brother. And the face said me, man,

(21:00):
you know, if I want to kick him in the face,
I can do that, but you can't. And it's just
like an instant fire kind of run. And I jumped
back and I had him, I had his had him
his arms across his body and I was wearing back
and reads like tiny little mini. Him was like no,
you know, like don't hit him. So but that was
how it always was for a long time. And then

(21:20):
when he got to be probably in high school and
I was in college, you know, I went to Mississippi
State and he was doing his thing back at home,
and we just became buddies. And he grew a little
bit and.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Got a little taller so you could accept him. Yeah, yeah,
that's nice.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah, but always beat him everything, even when I was small,
like a whopped his ass in every.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Everything, every travel basketball.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
But as far I mean, as far as back as
I can remember, Bro's it's it's been like this, you.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Did punch me in the face. To watch.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
So you guys were more than the dynamic of big
brother taking care of a little brother. You were like
buds at fourteen and old.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Oh no, I can't say no, no, I wouldn't say I mean,
it was still like it was very brotherly, you know,
like you wasn't best.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Friend high school college and then got really really cool
and then then caught So when you finished high school,
did you do?

Speaker 5 (22:06):
I stayed in town for a year and then I
went to ut Knoxville and fell physics twice. Called him,
was like, hey, I don't really know what to do
with my life. He was like, bro, moving to.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Nationville, So what had you done? By the time he
graduated high school, I was in.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
A band and our band actually started getting some looks
up here. I didn't know we were getting looks.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Name of the band so Gravy.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
So we were kind of a funk once again. We're
like a funk country thing we could do, and we
started popping off in Mississippi and doing that little sec
kind of circuit, you know. And we were actually on
the road with guys like Brantley Uh, Corey Smith was
out a lot, and there was a bunch of other
cover bands, but there were some guys that really turned
into you know, legit stars that we were kind of

(22:47):
with and so we were getting the look. I think
we were a little probably out of the commercial box
necessarily at the time. You know, now we would probably
fit right in, But we started getting looks and came
up here and we're hanging out with riding with guys.
Leslie Roberts over at being Mine started hooking me up
with Rhett and Readach and some of those dudes. And

(23:08):
I built up a little catalog and I recognized that
I could get a deal if I had good enough songs.
That took a super long time. I went and met
with Sony. I wrote a song with Randy Montana that
got picked up by Luke Bryant at the time, and
they were like, oh my gosh, let's sign him real quick,
you know, and.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
So picked up asn't put on hold or he cut it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Put it on hold, and then it ended up getting
cut later by Justin Moore. So that was like, Okay,
we can take a chance on this guy. So I
went to a meeting and saw some softball bats leaning
up in the corner of this guy's office, and as
I was walking out, I asked the lady, Hey, where
does he play softball? And she was like, oh, he
plays over it fields on farms. So I was working
on a box truck at the time, and I so

(23:52):
I got an umpiring job at Fieldstone Farms and I
umpired for two years until he came there one night
when I was upired. He's like, what are you doing
out here? I said, I'm hustling, dude, like, you ain't
giving me no money to write. So I got to
pay rent somehow. I was living in or my buddy
it's a buddy, it's a girl, but a girl's closet basically,
and paying rent doing that, uh read would come and

(24:13):
crash sometimes and just trying to just trying to get
in any way we could, you know. And he was like, well, dang,
you're hustling. He said you got some songs, and I said, yeah,
I do, and he said, well come see me, but
let's let's get a day. And so I borrowed seven
hundred and fifty bucks from my granddad ri Ip days, Bud.
You know, I lay you five hundred for my sister,
paid pizza to my band, cut a demo at Studio

(24:34):
nineteen and six songs. Sony held it for nine months
and I would I was just keep my phone just
charged one hundred percent in my I mean just every
time they vibrate, I was praying it was them. And
so finally they called back and we're like, hey man,
we're ready to do something with you. And so I
have kind of been there ever since. I mean it's
been ten years. I've I've been writing it.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So when they say do something with you, like sign
you to a publish and deal, yeah, and you kind
of have they have the same kind of skeleton around you.
I mean, I know people change, but are some of
the people the same.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
No, it is. It's almost a completely regime. There are
some that are still there. I guess, yeah, but it
it and and honestly, those first years were tough, you
know because like the guy that got me over there
went somewhere else, and then I moved to another lady
and then she got somewhere else. So it really is
going like full circle. I guess. Back to what you

(25:23):
were saying, having having people in place to you know,
champion your songs is an extremely extremely important thing.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
What about so you moved here after you left?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah, I left Oxford?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Did you come right here? Did you go home?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
First? No?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
I came, I went to MTSU and graduated.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
I did the RIM program. Actually, me and Hardy were
there at the same time. Me and Mitchell Timpion were
in a songwriting class together, and the first day of
that class, they made us like sing an original song.
And so I wasn't like I hadn't written a lot
of songs at that point.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I just I love singing. I've always loved singing.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
And so I actually went to Dan, I was like, hey, bro,
what's the best song you got? And he showed it
to me. I learned it, went into the class, sang
that song.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Did you claim it was yours?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, absolutely? And then.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
It was like a co ride sounds like definitely.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
And then and then Mitchell played and after class he
came up to me outside and was like he was like, hey, brouh.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
We were kind of like the only sorry to anybody
else who was in.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
That class, but he was like, hey, bro, we're kind
of the only ones that really knew what we were
doing in there. And we started writing some songs and
and then I moved from there.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I graduated from there and then moved to My.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Dad brought his house boat up and kept it at
Percy Priest at the cove. I think that's what it
is right there, a Elham arena and lived there for
four years and uh and moved, Yeah, same same furniture
company he worked for. I moved furniture and wrote when
I could and uh, and in my kind of it
was really never my dream like I always just like

(27:00):
I said, I always loved singing.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
So I knew I wanted to sing, but I didn't
know in what capacity I wanted to.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
And so I kind of moved to town with I
guess chasing the artist thing, you know, Bunnieers, and quickly
found out once I got my first pub deal in
town and doing the artist development thing. I went on
the road a few times and I was out playing
one weekend. I called back home and Dan and my
dad were at Deer Camp putting steaks on the grill.
And that's the last gig I ever played on the road.

(27:24):
And I was like, man, I love playing, but I
hate the rest of it.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I was miserable.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
And so I'd fallen in love with writing songs through
those years, you know, trying to chasing that thing, and
decided to.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Jump the fence. And I was fifty percent of the
artist thing. Five percent trying to write songs and I
just put all my eggs in the writing basket. And
I remember the day I told Dan. He was like, bro,
this is it's not gonna work. And I was like,
I was like, yeah, will bro, I'm I'm.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Gonna do it. Why did I don't remember saying this. No.
We were in fire haul room five.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
We had just got done with the corp when I
told you weren't good.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
And I told and I looked at Dan and I
was like, hey man, I'm not doing the artst thing.
And he was like, what do you mean because that
was a plan.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Like oh no, I was saying, you're not gonna get
You're not going to be getting the quality of riots
that you're getting when you tell everybody you're not doing
the artist because.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Bro, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
They want to ride with somebody might who might have
a song. Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
But anyway, I got.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
A question, hold on, let's go for it. Pause. You
lived on a boat for four years. What's it you
have to pay like slip rent?

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, it's four hundred dollars, so we split it.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh you both.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
I was there first, and then Dan got out of
the close, came out of her closet, then came out
of the closet and moved on the boat with us.
And uh and yeah, we payed two hundred dollars apiece.
And but did we had WiFi there?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (28:35):
We we I put a I put an antenta up
so we could have direct TV.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
It wasn't that bad until like until legit girlfriend started
coming around, you know what I mean, because like, two
dudes on the boat is not a not a bad scheme,
but like when when you have frozen sewage and a
girlfriend over it.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Just I used to tell I used to tell people
I lived there. When I graduated, I moved onto the boat.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Technically once again, we didn't live there. We just visited
three five days.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
But anyway, fifty five so.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
You can be there every day except once. You can't
claim residents. You have to just visit.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
So like, for example, if I stay in California a bunch,
which I don't, but if I were, because there were
times when I was doing shows, or even Mike and
I lived in California for a few months at a time,
like doing TV shows. They were like, well, as long
as you don't live here more than six months. You
can claim residency everywhere else, which you wanted to because
taxes are ridiculous. But I never heard of three fifty

(29:34):
five well or whatever that or.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Three sixty four.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
So if you don't, if you're not there every day
and you stay one more day somewhere else, you claim
residency in the one day, well, you.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Just you can't get mail there because technically you're not
on land.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
So it's a it was a yeah, you can't own
it because you.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Can't own it because core of Engineer Land, the state
owns that late right, So you just visit a whole.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Lot every time you walk to the boat. You wink
you guys, I'm just here visiting.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Just stay here.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
But no, I used to tell people like I used
to tell like it was story. I like it was
easy to to say, hey, you know, live on a
boat when you're in college.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
They're like, oh, that's cool, let's go hang out.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
But then like when four years later, when you're twenty
seven and you still live on a boat moving fresture,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I had a legitimental breakdown on that on that boat
or panic attack, sorry, panic, I had a legit panic
attack on that boat.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Uh, what trigger did.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Lack of movement in my life and hand on the
boat and well, literally I had gotten canceled. It was
the I was driving into town. It was raining. I
remember I got canceled, of course, because nobody wanted to
ride with me at all. I didn't even have a
deal at the time. And so I was like, gosh, man,

(30:52):
and I had this. I had this like little coop
and it had a it had a uh vertible like
uh son hot sun under so it didn't work. Water's
pouring in through the sunroof. I pulled back up. Sorry,
I walked back to the boat. Man. I'm just like
defeated all my buddies. I mean not all my buddies,

(31:14):
but I see people that are my age at the time.
I'm like twenty nine thirty. They're like buying houses, buying
new trucks. Check out my number one. You know, Oh
this plaque is so cool. Look at all these things
I get to go to.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
And I was just like, and I probably had taco
salad made.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well, no, you were cooking. I remember you were cooking.
I you were down in in the gallery. Well, yeah,
I was older and it you're.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Four years younger. Yeah, And four years you were gonna
have panic attack?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, oh I did ironic you say that?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
So I like, what were we gonna do tonight? Bro?
I came in and I was just like, and there's
nowhere to hide, right, You're on a boat. It's like
fifty square feet. So uh, I pulled the I was
just like, oh my gosh, I canceled them again. I
was like, I don't know what I'm doing. Nobody cares
about what I'm doing. I'm turning these songs and nobody
was a rip dude. I got no artist friends. Why

(32:03):
would anybody? I wouldn't want to ride with me either,
you know. So I was just like, hey, man, he's like, man,
you want some of this croppy walk? Come down here
frying crappie and got some corn, some deal mondy corn
on us. I was like, man, I'm good, I'm just
gonna chill. And we had a couch that was kind
of like a three quarter cat with like a full
size but you had a couch there, and I just
that's where that was like my room was like the couch.

(32:25):
So I just kind of pulled the covers over my
head and just as soon as as my my covers
got over my head. I felt the boat go like,
which means somebody was coming to step in. The tiny
doors open and my Dad's like, hey, boys, broke, I
brought pork steaks. Who's ready to eat? And I was
just like, oh my god, it's like can I just
And he's like, hey, what do you do? You know,

(32:46):
just insult to injury, right, He's like, what.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Are you doing when you got the covers over here?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Dan, It's it's eleven o'clock in the morning, man, what
do you do? And I was like, man, I just
like half a second like and that, and Read was like, yeah,
what's up, Dan? What you know? We're all trying to,
you know, hang out, And he was like, what's going
on with you day? And finally I just come on
gluede and it was like, I'll tell you what's happening.
I'm thirty years old, I got nothing going on. All
my buddies are buying their second trucks. I'm stuck in

(33:14):
a house, but with you cats eating crappy every two days,
I'm exhausted. Nobody wants to write with me, and I'm
a little pissed off about and it was just like
it was legit the moment when I always go back
to that because people are like, oh yeah you, oh
Luke Combs just fell into your lap, didn't he, And
you're like, no, man, there was some really, really really

(33:35):
hard days that earned me the spot that I have now,
you know.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Or at least made you appreciate it even more. I
understand how it is to get it too, and I
pressure it.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
So hard, man, And I mean even delays everything. It
delays everything because you're so focused on having that thing work,
because it's like the padlock. Rightly, once you unlock a
publishing deal and a hit song in your brain at
the time, well then you have enough money to support
a family and to buy a place and to get married,

(34:07):
and then you can have kids. And you know what
I mean, it's like this whole effect. And Hardy and
Rad and I were talking about that. It's it's almost
like if you come into this thing and you're just
running at it as hard as you can, it delays
a lot of the other things in your life.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, because it's a sacrifice first of all. I mean
even with me, I got married, I don't get me
till it's forty, right, and I don't know, have any
kids yet you know we're talking about now having kids.
She's a good thing. I mean she just turned nineteen,
so that works for us or nineteen No, that's legal though,
you could, Yeah I could. If I would have said seventeen,
that wouldn't have been it. You shouldn't allowed.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I could.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
But she's thirty one, and so you know we're talking
about it. But I'm stunted in a lot of my
growth because I only focused on one thing and didn't
get it. Forever you have to do. But had I stopped,
I wouldn't have it now. Yes, yes, and so but
to be good at anything, if it's a good parent,
if it's a good ride, or if it's a good

(35:02):
they're a sacrifice because you could be mild at everything. Yeah,
you could be good at some stuff and not good.
But if you want to be great at something that
you gotta put all your energy, you're taking some energy
out of other things to be great.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Well yeah, so and that's what you know me as
coming up especially under knowing Dan or you know, being
Dad's brother. And then we had Singleton above us man,
like two examples of guys that were literally putting everything
they had into this and so same thing, man.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I mean, it's just it.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
It takes time, it takes obviously a lot of effort,
and at the same time, you gotta make money. You
got to keep your head above water, me literally keeping
our head above water living on a house. But but
you're you're right, Bobby, you gotta I mean, you got
to give it your off for for a long time,
and there's still no guarantee that there's gonna be a
day when it works. So you've got to be okay
with giving it everything you've got and at some point

(35:55):
it working or not working.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
What jobs did you guys have here before? Or you
could quit and only pursue.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Music was Tim Hodge, which was uh fancy webs and
we worked on a moving truck and sweated like crazy
in the back of that movie.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You can go like houses, You can go to a
couple of of what what where do old people go
for nursing?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Nursing?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I'm sorry, uh, and the required I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
No, no, I think it is now. We have a five
star Mitchelle nursing on here and anybody over sixty five automatically.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
But you can go to those awnings where you drive
into those and and uh, you can see a couple
of chunks.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Of concrete out of them. Because of my driving skills
of a box truck.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
The Bobby Cast will be right back.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
This is the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
You know, the only thing that I would compare to
being an artist or you know, just I was talking. Uh,
ABC News came by because they've been following Lanny for
a while. And I was fortunate enough and probably you
guys to have known Nanny for a long time, even
record sure, even before she had music that was out,
and Landy came to the house, wants to teach me

(37:16):
this thing before she so I just have a relationship
with Landy. I put her first time she played the
ryme and she played with That's exactly it. Yeah. So
I was telling them the story and I was going
into a bit of like you have to have the
right people believe in you. You have to be good,
and then you have to have the right people believe
in you, and you got to be a little different

(37:36):
to where it's it's it's almost uncomfortable. You need to
have something about you that's so different that people will
go that's probably not gonna work because when it when
it does work. That's what differentiates you from everybody else.
And that ends up being the thing.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
And talk about. Yes, right that Gal has been was
that from day.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
She taught.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
The only thing now is that her clothes just costs more. Yeah,
but yeah, instead of going to the thrift store to
get them, she's they're freaking Louis Vuitton now and she's earned.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
It's always funny to me when people like they're like, oh,
the accent's not real and that, oh yeah you should
because because we signed it, Sony. I signed before her,
the post and deal right before she did it, Sony.
And first thing I thought of when I met Lane
was oh my god, this chicks country and like one
of the countryess. And you're right, man, I mean, yeah,
she hadn't changed one bit. She's she's basking Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Man.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
That's that's how she is.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
They always say, does she really talk like that? I'm like,
if you met her mom and her mom talks like
they all talk, that is who she is. Man. I
was I would loot this year, and Lane was was
uh second or third on that thing. And man, there
were many times where I just like teared up just
watching her just because she just it just took on

(38:49):
this whole other like existence, right, And now my four
year old little girl like worships Laney And it's so
so weird to me that that that's come that far around.
But and she hugged her at at a Luke show
and stuff, and now that's all we listen to. I'm
so tired of laying with us. I can't wait for
her to put new music out. But how cool is

(39:09):
that to have a friend of mine be an example
and a role model for my four year old little girl. Man,
it's a really cool thing.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
And also a very similar story to you guys, or
a similar story to a lot of people, because again,
back to art, a lot of people want to do art.
Art doesn't pay unless you can prove that your art
is going to make somebody else money first. Yeah, very true,
and everybody wants to do it, So why would they
pay a lot to do it if it's just going
to be pretty good or mediocre until it's proven. And
so the only thing that I would compare to songwriting

(39:38):
or making it that's terribly difficult, fun, but terribly difficult.
It's freaking podcasting because it's fun to do, but it's
difficult to cut through because just like music, there are
five thousand people in this town that can play and
sing and that has a cousin that works here that
knows how to get you into that. With podcasting, it

(39:59):
is is a very similar world where there there there
are a million podcasts.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Yeah, first time I'm hearing this, but I like it.
I agree, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
And the people that win aren't always the people that
are the funniest or the people that can book the
best guests. It is like anything else in life. It's consistency,
and it's being consistently good and occasionally great, because if
you're trying to be consistently great, you won't be won't
You can't be consistently great moments?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Right, and take advantage of of the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
And I know you know with you guys' podcast, So
where where are we on this?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's new?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yes, I know that, but where new? That's why I'm
giving you guys the lecture. No, I liked I was
listening to every so but where how many how many
episodes have you guys recorded?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Sixteen?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Okay, that's enough, we've had.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Four come out.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's enough. If you've recorded sixteen, that's enough
to kind of get the early the early yest of yeah,
oh my god, we got another one for sure, while
loving it like writing music, Oh my god, I don't
want to go rite again from nine to four and.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Then and also dealing with like the anxiety of like, well,
this one's gonna suck, you know, like like on the
way in town, you're like, well, I don't know we're
gonna talk about because we talk about the same thing
every time, but always just like almost just like a
co write with those those artists, like it usually always.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Goes good if you show up and if you have
decent people that you.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Trust around you to where if you're at and I'm
sure you guys can speak to this writing too, where
if you're having a day where either it hasn't been
a good day personally or something your brain's just not right,
your yellow brain fog. You can't think if somebody else
is in the room and they're able to pick you
up because you've been able to pick other people up,
like that's that's the same thing that happens here.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
And I will say that we have an advantage because
there's two of us. I don't know how you do it.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I mean, the good always great.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm the only one that is always great.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why we're here. It'd be
great today.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
You're the only one wearing those baby Jordan's day.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Hey, dude, when I got these, they were like three
hundred bucks. I think if you looked them up now, Mike,
if you look up the North Carolina off white Jordan,
I bet you now. I was telling a friend how
much you appreciate. I won't even say. I want you
to finish the story about I kind of know. I
kind of know too, but I don't want to say.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I was probably jealous of something.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I was kind of setting you up to brag for me,
but you didn't. You just said I kind of know
and waited. So we even yet we have said, what
do you think that the retail It's not retail, but yeah,
go ahead, how much eighteen? I don't think eighteen, that's
eight I'd say six to eight thousand.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Wait, eight thousand, Yeah, dollars for shoes.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was saying eighteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh, Mike, what do you say?

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Eight hundred?

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I'm saying the last cell was eighteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well not these hold on, pay the man.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
We should have put this on that bed.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Hold on, and then then they've appreciated again, and I suck.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Well, you don't believe in your boy, right You don't
trust your boy right here?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
No, no, I do. He is the fastest. But there
are times where both of us will find something fast
and then let.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Me see what. Let me telling what you're doing here?
You're co writing this? So what Absolutely? I have an
idea for a book called co write Your Life. And
the whole point is that you can trust people. Should
have said that live dude, nobody's going they rip it off.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Now we'll bleep it out, keep going.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Oh that was kind of it. You just as long
as you have someone.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Write the book for you.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yes, god.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Ghast, Yeah he he just came up with a ghost writer.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Right now, leave the right?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
What do you have? What? What?

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Probably are the off white?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Off white?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
What are they now?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Eighteen hundred?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Say they're going up though they've gone up two hundred
bucks in the last time. This last time they said.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Eighteen hundred, right, we said eighteen man.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Listen, you cannot they've gone down there they were like
four or five.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I got this redneck, old thrift store brain that you
can't I know how much things I sell them to
you for three? No? What size?

Speaker 4 (43:47):
What size are they?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
He said? You like your tiny ProAb wouldn't figure look
probably too big.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm a nine and a half dog.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Notine and a half. Oh man, Really, you don't even know, Bobby.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
I will take you to you. We can go to
a corner right now and I'll ball out on you.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's no insult toward you. You're not to blame for
your genetics. That's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Should we stand up and try think?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Really? Yeah? Because I saw you in La when we
were at the Grammys last year.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I was like, that was that working? Like doing that hotel?
But why didn't Why didn't you say hi?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I did? I wouldn't. I didn't. I don't know. You
were like.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Walking, I was walking, so you didn't say hi? Like,
we know all the same people, and I would think,
and I would hope that they say nice things about me,
because people that we know I'm talking the people that
we know say nice things about you. And if I
saw you, I would be like, what up?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Well I didn't. I it was my first first off.
It was my first gig I had to tune hey guitar,
which I'm not a guitar tuner, for the Grammys. My
first gig was the was tuning the guitar for Luke
to play.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
What do you mean your first gig?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I went out on the road with Luke for a
year as his guitar tech as a star Tek.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Were you riding as well?

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yes, that was the whole Yes, he knows that this
is not a secret. It so, but I still had
to get that song of Gun in tune for the Grammys,
and the first minute of the song it's just him
and acoustic. So sorry if I might have been a
little stressed out and not been like Bobby, say hi
me when I'm sure that happens to you all the time.

(45:29):
I'm a guitar tooner international super.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
No, it wouldn't even about that. It would be about hey,
we have a bunch of the same friends.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Bro. You know you've been like, oh cool, cool, colme out.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yes, that would make for a power story.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
This is stupid.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Have a legitim, Mike, Big Brothers came in and now
you got to Bill for the too.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
We should have done it at our studio. This place
is bobo.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Dude, he's got a sim in this place.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I don't even know what bobo means. I'm just looking
at you to that's like a.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Whole Mississippi term of I don't know bothah same.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, you guys had to take a
step down and come do this.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
That's not a lot.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
We didn't walk past the infinity pool.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
I like the dog what dog bridge bridge?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
That is so you guys, will you know why you
like it? Because you grew up hillbillies like I did.
Now we bought this house, there was nowhere for our
dogs to go out, because it's smart and because there's
a pool, and I don't want the dog drowning.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
We have a bulldog.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I'm not worried about Eller because she's like thirteen different
dogs and they lived forever. The bulldog will drown, so
we can't let them come into the yard. There was
no way to get them from the house to the
side yard. So you know what we did. We drew
on a napkin that bridge with plywood, and they came
out and they built the freaking bridge and then we've painted.
So that's literally what we did. I mean, we cut

(46:55):
a hole in the garage.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
You should patent that. That's I mean that I didn't
invent the bridge.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That's been a while for a while, Ridge.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Dog Bridge, though you invented that.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
I'm just looking for.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I know, I trust me, I feel you.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Why did you guys start doing a podcast together?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Like?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
What was the motivation other than you think you have
a lot of stories to tell, like what we.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Had one like we started The Brother's Hunt actually on
the front porch of our deer.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Maybe explained the difference between the podcast and what of
the Brothers Hunt is.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Well, the Brothers the Brother's Hunt was just was a
brand thing that we started back in the day. And
we're literally sitting on a two by four front porch
of our fifth wheel deer camp down in West Tennessee,
and and it kind of started where we were going
out west and and and doing these hunts and these
cool things, and our dad couldn't go, so we started
filming them to come back in show him. And then

(48:01):
we started showing our buddes and they're like dude, this
is kind of great content.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Man.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
So we kind of started the Brothers Hunt the brand
and started putting videos online YouTube and going all these
places and filming and were.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You guys monetizing that at all?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
No, dude, we didn't know what we were doing.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
So you were doing it for fun and passion.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Person, Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
And then it turned into where we started people around town.
We were writing in town while this was going on,
and our co writers and artists and buddies started started
seeing us as the Brothers Hunt. And then so we
made a sweatshirt and the sweatshirt kind of took off
and we made more sweatshirts, and then they.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Were like, we should do a podcast.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
So then we literally did a Brother's Hunt podcast for
We did like ten or twelve episodes, and uh, and
it was just so much work and I didn't know
what we were doing. I was doing what Mike was doing,
except the way worse job than this. And it was
a headache.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
We were trying to balance the recording of it, the
booking of the of the person there, the content and
then getting it out and getting it I mean, it.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Was just as well as trying to write songs and
trying to get like like get the first cut, you know,
I mean, which we were talking about earlier, Like we
had a lot of energy going toward this thing instead
of going toward the songwriting thing. And I just met
Jordan a little bit later, and it was just there
was too many things to balance. So we just kind
of kicked it off and kind of took a break.

(49:20):
And I honestly thought we didn't really know what to
do with the Brothers hunt, and I honestly thought it
was gonna kind of just kind of go away and
we might sell a sweat, all right.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Yeah, we were okay with that.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, and then you know, we end up going. Luke
calls us and says he wants us to go on
this met Eater episode where we go hunt Antelope with
Steve and those guys out in Wyoming.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
We went and we.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Did the podcast with Steve and we talked about country
music the whole time, and Steve was just enthralled by
it and his listeners loved it. And then he comes
up with the idea of, hey, what if we do this,
and this is three or four years down the road
now comes up with the idea of what if we
do this country music outdoor podcast and cause Luke and
Luke's like, well, I know, the only people in town.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
That can do that is are these guys.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
And that's kind of I mean, dude, it was we
weren't you know, I mean, we weren't expecting that, we
weren't looking for it.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
It just kind of was presented to us.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
The Mediator is at as an outdoor lifestyle brand too.
I don't know if you're familiar with it, but it's
like it's kind of the same. It's kind of like
the Western version of what we are, which what we
are is essentially trying to paint hunting the way that
we were in fishing and outdoor lifestyle the way we
were brought up in it, which is mega respect. If
you're going to take an animal, use every part of it,

(50:35):
you know, and and and so it was kind of
just a lifestyle brand for us that translated into a
media brand. And uh so we're obviously plugged in with
a lot of these artists, a lot of the writers,
and I will go on record saying I think songwriters
are arguably the coolest people in the world, especially and
most interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You're a songwriter, though, that would be like me saying
I think left handed people are the smartest freaking people ever.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Should have said about himself. Right, I'll go on back
here and say artists or the coolest.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
So that's what I but they are song right, that's
years though.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
But but you just literally gave a complic to yourself.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Okay, let me see, let me hold him to the fire, Bobby,
let's go. Dude, I'm trying to think. I'm just saying, Okay,
maybe I should say to me, music industry people are
the coolest people in the world to interview. Why because
of the stories, right, Because they're their entire existence is

(51:31):
built on storytelling. So whether you want them to or not,
there's gonna be interesting things that come out of an
hour and a half conversation. And a lot of them
do share the same interest that we do. When we
had Kolbe Kalay on there yesterday and uh, she's not
a hunter. She doesn't fish really, you know, she like
but she likes outdoors and she likes to go shoot,
ski and she likes to do these other things. And

(51:52):
I was so nervous coming into that thing. I was like, dude,
what am I gonna How are we going to relate
and it just flowed and it was effortless. Is she's
so cool and she's like the greatest singer of all time,
and it was just it was easy, you know, because
those people beyond besides just being extremely talented, they're also

(52:13):
interesting to have interesting stories. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I think creatives are interesting because you got to be
messed up to pursue it, like something's there's there's got
to be something a little off or you're completely naive. Yeah,
And I think both happened to me. I came from
a place where nobody did anything like this, and something's
a little off, so I didn't know. And also it's
like why can't I do it? And let's and so

(52:37):
that the creative is just in general, like if you
got to just create something out of nowhere lyrics, melody,
you got to paint a picture like that is a
special trait that if you do it over time and
you refine it. You've probably done it a lot of
time refining it, not making any money and really struggling.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Did you find yourself when you were growing up in Arkansas?
Like did you see this?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Did you kind of that was gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Absolutely? It didn't even happen as big as I think
it's gonna happen. Like if I, if I didn't believe
in me, nobody else would. Nobody believed in anything where
I was from because they didn't have There wasn't there
wasn't belief in being able to do anyth because you
were just trying to survive like you did.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
You didn't do have dreams, you didn't have time to believe.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yeah, it was got to make money.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
You gotta go to the mill, I gotta go. Yeah. So,
But yet I always felt like, and I still do,
like I literally can do if I want to be
president Nited States. I feel like I can go to
a president United States. And I feel like if I
if I do, I'm gonna have some trouble at first,
and it's gonna be hard, and it should be, but
nothing's ever come easy. But also I think my God
gifted talent, which I hate being called talented because I

(53:41):
feel like I've earned it. All. My talent is tenacity,
which is I just don't stop and it sucks sometimes
and that's okay, but you just don't stop. And I
think that itself is so valuable it is extremely bad. Yeah,
I mean that is to me, consistency and tenacity.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Mix in a little talent in there, and you can
be something.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
And if I had that part, I'd have it all
freaking figured out.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I tell people all the time, like it feels like
when I moved to town, and I say, Mitchell, because
we moved to town at the same time, we graduated
at the same time. The guys that are working now
that are successful in the music industry are the ones
that didn't move home and didn't didn't stop. And you
can see it across the board with Laney, with with Mitchell,
with I mean, I'll throw me in that category, like

(54:21):
we're all on our come up because of what you're
talking about. There is no and people say, you got it.
You can't have a second option.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
You can't. You just gotta, you gotta. This is what you.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
Gotta do, and you gotta do it till you either
fall over dead or or you make it.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
You can have other things that you do to support it,
meaning if you got to.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Go to work, I think you kind of have to.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, I mean so, And sometimes people be like, well,
that's planning, but no, no, no, that's a prop up of
what you're propping yourself up so you can still accomplish it.
And I think most and even the most successful people
I know have been really bad at things that they're
really good at now.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I remember a guy told me I saw his mom
somewhere and I said, hey, how's so and so doing. Said, Oh,
he's doing really good. He he wants to become an author.
And I was like, oh, man, that's that's awesome. I said,
So what happened is? She said there's I said, is
he is he writing while he's work? Because he was
like a bellhop or something for a while. So is
he writing while he's working at the hotel? She was like, no,

(55:15):
he quit that. And I was like, you quit that?
She was like yeah. I was like because see why?
And she was like, well, he wants to devote all
his time to writing. And I'm like, yeah, that's not functional, Like.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
That's not sustainable, it's notable.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
No man, and and and if you can ever, a
lot of it is about buying time to write, like
stay like having enough uh the words shouldn't be success,
but having enough action to keep you in town long
enough to learn the craft in order to be great
at it from other people who are great at right.
So I attribute I attribute what I know about songwriting

(55:53):
to the guys that I learned it from, which was
Jason Matthews, Casey Bethard, shoot, Michael Hean. I mean tons
of there's tons. I mean. I feel like I'm not
naming them all. I should name it like an award speech.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Whenever you didn't mention your wife, thank you for this Grammy, like, so,
don't worry about that.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Thanks label.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, and you get back you're like, god, dang, I
didn't say any I didn't mention my wife, my mom. Yeah,
Jesus and those guys would tell the same struggle story
and talk about the guys that they learned from her.
It is a never ending cycle. The people who win
are the people that stay in good bad, especially if

(56:33):
you don't come from like crazy rich means listen, if
that's the that's not liar. You come from a bunch
of money, I don't want to like music, Okay, good. However,
most people aren't like that, and the winners are those
that just stay in the game and don't win for
a long time.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
We got to shout out Jonathan though, because I feel
like Singleton was the IV grip that kept us like
kind of alive in the worst times, whether that was
sleeping on his couch, or he would just have to
buy pizza for all of us and then we would
take the leftovers to the boat, you know. Or it's awesome,
here's five or ten bucks. Man, get you some gas
to get home.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Do you guys have and feel the need to make
sure that you find the people to do that to now?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
A million percent? Yeah. I mean I've even started signing
a couple of riders just because I feel like I
got to do something for somebody else who wants to
do the same thing asout it.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I mean you've done that too, because you know how
hard it is, and you just need somebody to believe
in you.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
It's the hard, yeah, And you need somebody to open
some of those doors. Man. You can't some of those
doors are so heavy when you get to town that
you can't get them open yourself, especially your size.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Can you imagine trying to one of these rich doors
or one of these pultion houses there's nowhere.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, Mike had to open the one just to get
us in this.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Bro, bring some weights in here. Let's see you can
throw them up.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
We were before we started the podcast, before you guys
came in, we were talking about a lot of you
guys's songwriting success and talking about the podcast. We've we've
set it all up before we started. I guess now
that you've recorded sixteen, but you have four out. It's
called God's Country. If do you ever go back and
listen to one of those first episodes, and this is
the last little tid that I'll leave you with, you
ever go back and listen to those persons we're about

(58:09):
to be if we've done hour?

Speaker 5 (58:10):
So that is something about podcasting that blows my mind.
When you're listening to them, an hour kind of seems
like when you're in them, it goes by.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
So fast, unless it's somebody who's not going to being interviewed,
and it goes.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
By like then you don't they don't even air that episode.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Oh okay, fair enough.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Man, I I don't listen to because I'm I'm my
own worst critic.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Okay, fair love it cool? When you do, You're gonna
hate it, no doubt, and you should hate it, just
like you should hate the first songs you wrote, because
if you didn't, you wouldn't be getting any better, and
so for me, same deal, right, Like I try not
to listen to me a lot, but sometimes I have
to listen to me back just to be cringing. So

(58:53):
I feel good about myself because I know I've gotten better.
Like it's almost like medicine. I gotta go take this
messine the taste bab, and I know it's gonna make
me better. So I can listen to something a year ago,
five years ago and be like, God, dang suck. I
didn't suck, but I've but since then, I've you know,
accumulated some skills and some abilities that make that seem bad.

(59:15):
And you guys will go through this now with podcasting
because you'll hear it back and go, God, we sucked.
But if you didn't do that, that mean you wouldn't
getting any better.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I kind of did that on the Josh Thompson episode.
We were interrupting each other so much.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
And the fact that you could hear that shows growth
that you even know.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
That he's still doing it, So he didn't really grow.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Okay, you just did it. As I'm talking, you just
did it. I think headphones helps with that because right
now we're doing.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
One, you're sitting six inches from your brother.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I know, but what it's making me do is get
GTFO of when you start talking.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
But I'm the host and if you if you didn't know,
I pushed you out of the way.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Good luck with that. But I'm just saying in our
podcast we tend to step over each other.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
A whole lot.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
Or how about this option we get you just did
it again? Yeah, because what I'm going to say funnier.
We give our guests one set of headphones and not
the other one, so the other one doesn't really.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Even know what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
This has all been a mental thing. It's been a
psychological test anyway, a test anyway. We haven't even recorded this.
This has all been This has all been a test
on you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
We haven't started.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Then we start, No, no, I don't want to know. We're
not gonna ar it. So just like we said, yeah,
we're not gonna er it. So okay, let me say this.
You guys check out God's Country podcast. You guys writing
every four days a week? Yeah, yeah, three to four.
How how booked is your calendar out a few months?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Wait for for what?

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
For?

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Right? Oh? Yeah, I mean March?

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Congrats than you like you worked, you worked hard to
work this hard. Yeah, like you should be tired. It's
it's a metal to be able to be exhausted doing
something you love.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Then yeah, hold level tired.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Are you coming on to me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
No, you're not doing your wife later.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
But look, I like you guys. I'd like better today
and if you just said hi to me Grammys. But
it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, they got to get hard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
You had six strings of glory to make sure they
were perfectly and they were.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
They were.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Uh yeah, you guys are you guys have it? You
guys have it. There's no there's no definitive what it
is in the same of artistry, Like you guys will
do a good podcast to be stick with it because
you have it. You have your brothers already trust each other,
and if one of your screws up, the other one
just gets pissed and punches you and then you're still brothers,
which is a different dynamic than if you're just with

(01:01:37):
a partner somebody doing a podcast. And you're also funny,
and you also come from a place that a lot
of people come from that don't have a lot of
representation in this space. There's some and it's growing, but
I really think you guys are onto something.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
And that that that means more to me than going
back and listening to an episode and thinking that I'll suck,
but you should. But I need to hear those things
from especially guys like you that are proven.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I mean, like you've you've done this, You've made it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Your shoes don't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
I ain't even gonna get closer than what I am
to him right now. I appreciate you saying that because
coming from a guy like in a position that you are,
that means that means the world to guys that are
just starting off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
We're doing what we're doing nobody ever does. It's like songwriting,
when someone song will tell you we don't know we're
doing We just nobody ever has to figure it out,
and if they say they do, they're lying. And it
took me a long time. It took me to figuring
it out to realize nobody actually figured out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Here's what I'm having trouble with. How do you? How
do you not? How does this? How do you line
up a guest where it doesn't ended up being the
same like program?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I think for you it feels like that because you're
doing it every time. Eventually, you're gonna realize it doesn't.
It's not the same. It probably feels like that. I mean,
it's like writing a song and going first chorus, verse, chorus, bridge,
chorus out, and you're like, well, every freaking song is
the same. But to somebody who's not in the middle
of doing a writing a song or doing a podcast,

(01:03:07):
it doesn't feel exactly the same. So don't let that
get in your head. It's gonna be the same way
as like, here's a freaking formula to write a song.
You know what, verse course, verse course bridge. It needs
to be solow you know, same thing. Okay, So as
long as the person that you're talking with or even
fishes you two guys, as long as you have something
to talk about that you feel, it doesn't be fresh.

(01:03:27):
It just needs to be timely.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Don't don't get yourself in that habit because then you'll
be trying to do walkind of crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I know. I don't want to get to be swacky town.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, yeah, oh good, Yeah, I like you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Thanks, it was just like a tryout.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yeah, actually, gotta get canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
This was two okay, I'll take it. Tell me to college.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, at your first time taking it, like like ninth
grade twenty two is what we call this. Next time,
you'll be in tenth grade. You'll go to high school
with the big boys. Your episodes before you've had out?
Who's been on?

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Josh Thompson, Hardy, Ben Hay, Slips and Lynch And.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Give me a couple coming up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Who's next?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Casey Bethers next?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
The Singleton?

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Singleton's coming on? We have blu uh Kobe Cala, which
is super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Walk?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
That's cool?

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Drake White?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, good for you guys. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Great dude, great guys and girls.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
We love them, not all of them, but most of them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I love all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, because they did your show correct. Yeah I felt
that too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
It's also just really just employed to get songs cut
like this isn't Tyler, It's just scam.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Okay, look, I agree completely listen to this and this
last thing I'm gonna say because I'm way over. I
have a meetingum seven minutes late for no I'm happy
to be late for that to finish this because I
feel like this is this, this kind of moment is
precious to me because I really enjoy what you guys
are doing and enjoy hanging out with you when you say,
what were.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
You just saying you're a scam?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
This this podcast has created so many positive relationships for
me in my life because whenever would because you're not
gonna say hid to me in a freaking hotel or
the Grammys, right whenever. Now, if I were to see
you at the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Store, now, yeah, I'm hugging you for sure. Yeah, you
have that germ thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
No, it's okay, it looks like you have so many germs.
We can't say each other out then it would be
be good look at him. So yeah, my point is
this isn't this is an intimate thing. Yeah, sure, and
there's a bit of trust, just like you're writing a
song with somebody. They're gonna have your back if you
don't have it. And after you complete this, you leave

(01:05:38):
the room going dang, like I feel pretty closer to
that person. I've seen people out that OBVIU seen for everybody,
did a podcast with them, and it's just like, what,
You're gonna make so many great relationships or forge the
ones that you have even stronger that it's gonna feel
like a scam.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Yeah, it feels scammy. Yeah, but as long as little
scamy care show, scammy care.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
Show, you're just gonna If cops walked in right now,
I'd be like, I'm the biggest imposter in them all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I got thanking everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
But you know who the coolest people in the world
are writers? H I agree, Yeah, I know. I appreciate
you guys. You guys go, as we mentioned earlier, the
God's Country Podcast, go follow it, but go check it out.
These guys are funny, they're great. If you didn't already
have a deal like a podcast do, I would sign
you to my my podcast network for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
You can always be bought.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yeah, we're sellouts.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Offer us more money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
It's not as just know. It's called capitalism. Sellout. Yeah,
it's called capitalism. We got kids, Yeah exactly. Yeah, you
guys go follow at the God's Country Podcast. Appreciate you
guys coming by.

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

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