#464 - Tony & Kris on Why Kenny Rogers Was a Father Figure to Them - Bobbycast

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Our agent just said, just go in, do the weather,
the calls, and play solitaire all morning and cash those checks.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
So in the meantime all worked to get you out of this,
and he eventually did and they had to pass eighteen
months to do nothing, which was great.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
So I saw these guys on social media and a
message to them, going, hey, why don't you come over
to the house and let's just talk about music.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
They had some great stories about Garth Brooks. You're going
to hear all of that. But as a radio show,
they were really successful and they still do a lot
of really cool content now. But Tony and Chris, Tony
and Chris began, they did thirty three years together. They
started back in Alabama in ninety one. They were in
San Diego for nearly sixteen years. They moved to Nashville

(00:48):
to syndicate. They went to Knoxville. It's just the fact
that they had been together so long and they had
so many good stories, and I really respect their story
at being in this weird industry.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I thought it was a really fun interview, and if
I'm being extremely honest, I think we were flying out
right after this. I was going or I was going
somewhere right after this, and I was pretty exhausted, and
I was very happy that it was Tony and Chris
because as tired as I was, I have to focus
even harder. But they were so great I didn't have
to worry about that. I had so many stories, this
story after story. They banned sugar Land from coming on

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their show once, which I saw on their TikTok. I
did see that one, and they're sharing music and pop
culture facts on their TikTok. So check it out at
Tony and Chris Show. I think you'll like this because
there's a lot of country music. There's a lot of
like inside Radio and their career, my career, Tony and
Chris here, episode four sixty four on the Bobby Cast.
So I was on TikTok and I came across you

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guys page, and so then I just sent Mike a
message and said, Hey, let's get Tony and Chris on
because it'd be fun to come and talk to them
about the similar things that we do. This is Eddie,
by the way, Eddie's Hey, ed, He's my best friend.
Eddie's on the morning show. And so I was just
watching a lot of the stories that you guys were
telling and I was super entertained by it. But I
was like, man, I would like to ask them questions
about their experiences with some of the same people, because

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you know, everybody's got a story. And I could tell
you there have been people, an artists that really didn't
like and then I spent more time with them or
they matured and then I liked And they probably can
said the same about me.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So we had experiences where we would meet an artist
and we were like, that was a total jackass, and
then people wou tell us there's that's impossible, there's no
way he was that way it was, and then after
some time you're like, oh, just he gets had a
bad day.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
He's human being.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
That's the thing I don't think most people understand is
everybody has bad days.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
And I didn't either, if I'm being honest, like I
would just think, well, what a douche. But I also
was very immature. But then I would have somebody like
see me at a restaurant and not say hi, and
then post something like, man, he was a real real dick.
I was like, nobody said hi to me, and I'm
very quiet when I and that's not fair, and I
think having that done to me and that's how I
had to learn, was me going, I mean, I shouldn't

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do that to folks. I should really at least give
him a pass or two because I get sick sometimes
I'm no, you know, ball and glory. When I'm sick,
I'm tired sometimes so and I think one of them
for me was was Carrie and that she's so shy
Carrie Underwood when she's not on meaning not talking to

(03:17):
a microphone. I thought she hated me the first two
or three. Yes, it's good, thank you.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Work.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I thought Carrie hated my guts because she was just
quiet and I was like, man, she But then fourth
or fifth time, sixth when we lived pretty close to
each other two at the time. I love Carrie now,
but it took me a few times to go, oh,
some people are just really great on camera and on
microphone and in person. But unfairly I'm the sameish way.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well, you got to remember two things too, And this
is a knock on our industry. There's a lot of
radio douchebags out there, and a lot of times when
an artist knows they're going to be around radio, are
like I'm gonna have to deal with that used car
salesman like, hey, yeah, very so once they learned, hey,
you're normal, you're cool, then they can kind of lose.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
There's a surprising number, and I've become one of these.
I didn't used to be this way, but there's a
surprising number of introverted people who have a very social job,
artists included.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
I mean, when they're not on you know, they love it.
It's there. You're one of those.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's what I'm saying that I'm the same way. If
I'm not on camera, I'm not doing what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I'm quiet.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't necessarily love to be in a group of people.
Now that didn't used to be the case.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
I don't know. That's something I've developed as I got older,
but I.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Get it, and so I definitely give these guys an
opportunity to not prove themselves. But so well, I'm gonna
wait a couple more times before I decide, Okay, he's
definitely a dick.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I think Caine Brown and I'm now I would say
I'm friend friends with Kane, like not just buddies, but friends.
Caine was very quiet, very guarded. Caine kind of came
out of obscurity and then it was like boom, social
media boom. And Caine wasn't. He wasn't demonstrative in his movements.

(05:04):
He didn't have a lot to say. But that same
exact Cane Brown is exactly the same way now. But
he now that I know him, he might be one
of the top three kindest guys as far as if
you hear somebody has something going on, like Kine jumps
to help people misjudge Kane like crazy. And I can
say that now because I've spent enough time with him
and I've been able to kind of develop that relationship.

(05:26):
Eddie Kane was tough.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
Right, Oh he was because he's short. All his answers
are sho no, no, no, his answers are short. You
know the appearance too. You see a guy with a
bunch of tattoo is the kind of good looking guy
you automatically think like, Okay, he thinks he's just too cool.
But no, We've spent a lot of time with Kane
and he's awesome.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, and Kan would like show like Amy my co
host has a black son, and Caine would like hear
his stories and know he didn't have a lot of
black friends Amy's son, but camould like show up in
like his birthday, give him a PlayStation like out of
nowhere like And that was just like the beginning of
what I learned about Cane. But then as I became
friends with him, like I can push back on him, right,

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I can like bust his balls, which I would never
have done early.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But you feel like you just have to be very
careful with which artist you do that with, because I've
got some artists I consider friends, not friendly with, but friends.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
But I still am like it depends on his mood today.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
That's a great point too, I would say, Jake. Oh,
and who again, My wife and I are super close
to Jake and his fiance, and you know, Jake's one
of our best guests pound for pound, I would say
best guests because if he's in a good mood, I
can let him have it. But you're right, if he's
in if he's not in a good space, can we

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got to kinda be careful to go.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
To that older Jake thing.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, we gotta kind of be careful.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
You two butt heads though a lot, because can you
guys are so real with each other that they just
butt heads so.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
That's what you want. I think ultimately everybody wants that.
The listener wants to hear some real You want some
real he wants he just wants an interaction that's not
telling me about the new album. So that all works,
and I think it's all a win when you have
just like that who are willing to play. We certainly
have found it over the years. I mean the people
we've talked to, the ones who will let you play,
were at the end of the thing, you're going, oh,
god man, we forgot to talk about the album, and

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they're like, I don't even care.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
That's what I wanted. I just wanted somebody to be real.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Who would you say pound for Pound is? Because again
I'm gonna put Jake as number one in ours, Like,
look what I say, Garth's awesome, but we only talked
to Garth every four or five or six months or whatever.
Who's pound for pound? You guys think your most consistent
interview that you know it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, I mean in the day it was Kenny Roger
Kenny Rodgers, but really only ever had him once and
he was older, so I didn't get to experience that.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
What was he like, oh my.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
God, he's I still today. It's almost like he was
a father.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
He was a father for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Ad buy some stuff and we'd be like, I'm managing
an artist now, and all I do is give him
like this.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Is what Kenny Rodgers did.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
He was incredible and his stories would always be like,
we had jingles made for him at our stay. I
told this story a little while ago, but we had
jingles made for him that it was It's the Kenny
Rodgers show. And whenever he would show up in San Diego,
we had just turned the show over to him and
start telling stories. And he'd be like, well, I was
at Quincy Jones' house and Prince shows up, you know
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I mean, he was in the early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
He was already telling us some of those behind the
scenes of the Weird of the World, you know the.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Nets in the documentary, and told those stories.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
He told us the story about you know, Don Henley
and Shiloh giving them their start and helping the Eagles
get their publishing and all this crazy story.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
And he was just always on.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
But his kindness where he would go out of his
way to tell stuff like I remember one time I
said something, and he just goes, Chris, remember everybody's three people,
who you think you are, who they think you are,
and who you really are. And the closer you make
all three of those, the better your career.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
In life's going to go.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
And he goes, I used to wear leather pants and
have my shirt un button down to my belly button.
And he goes, that wasn't me, and he goes, I
finally one day said I'm a suit guy. I put
on a suit, started being myself, and my career exploded.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
And I just thought that was great.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, Kenny was good for us, but he was older.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Our last interview with him, it was tough and we
almost killed him.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean we we almost pulled the old pulled the
chair out and under That's all we needed endo our career.
I was like, Ken, you don't wait, we might move
that chair hang on because he was about to sit
back down, So no.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
No chair, It slid out of his way.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, what about because Dolly's always awesome? And I guess
I think a dolliecause a Kenny, but also Dolly. I've
had a great relationship with Dolly. You guys have experience
of Dolly.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes, have.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
They always been wonderful because she's so professional. And I
mean that in the most in the best way.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
And let me tell you how stupid we are before
we can get to that. We've never take a while. Okay,
we'll just do the top one here. We've never been
the guys like we need to get an autograph, we
need to get the picture. But we have all the
pictures and stuff. The only people we do not have
pictures with that we've interviewed are Willie Dolly. And there
was one other one that we were like, ah, we
don't want to bug him with.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Him the really thing.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
He was making us a sandwich on his bus and
I was like, this would be in the days of
if those were cell phone days, and like no, just
picture that's just cool didn't exist. So that's just a
mo with that lives in our heart.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
You know. It's a great memory that we'll have when
he's got on.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But Dolly, just I mean, and this is going back
to Kenny Rogers. Kenny said, Dolly can tell the most
off color jokes and embarrass you. He goes, I only
tell off color jokes. If I'm I know everybody in
the room. She will blow in and just unload and
I and she's never done that around us, but she's
always what you see on TV is what you get.
Kind of like how we describe Blake Shelton. You know,

(10:23):
when everybody says, oh, I love him on the voice,
and that's Blake. Yeah, he's not being anybody else, and
that's accurate. That's that's very much Blake. What's your guys
the story? Howd you meet Tender?

Speaker 7 (10:33):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm just just you know, sheer luck.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
We were in a very small town in Alabama and
I in college. My first paying radio job was in country,
although at the time that was not music that I enjoyed,
but I was like, hey, I need beer money, so
this is good.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
This is good. Worked there for a few years.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
What town was that?

Speaker 4 (10:49):
That was? I lived in Gadston, Alabama.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
This station was Anniston, Alabama at that time, WHMA one
hundred thousand, wats in big station?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Who had the Bama played on the truck out? There
is that here right here?

Speaker 4 (11:00):
He's born and raised?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, go ahead, yeah, And so anyway, worked there for
a while and then when I had my first kid,
really young, unexpectedly, I say, closer to home. It seems
like Gadsden. Anderston seems so far apart back then because
it was such a small town, like, oh, it's forty
minutes now, Like we lived in San Diego. I drove
to work an hour every day one way, but got
a job at a rock station. He was like, Hey,
it's closer to your house. And he just said that baby,

(11:21):
it's a little more money, and I said, man, that'd
be great. And then they hired Chris and he and
I met became friends first, which I think is super
important to our story and why we have been able
to keep it going for so long without any blow ups.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Without any problems.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
We were just we knew we liked each other going in,
and then we got lucky and that we also happened
to have great chemistry, you know, on the air. We
both had a similar mindset of what we wanted to accomplish,
how we wanted to do it, who we wanted to be,
you know, and you know.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
We went from there. We worked together for a very
short time before we really got our big brain.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
And what you just said, Tony, I wanted to ask
you about because I do think had we not our
story of how we got to San Diego's crazy but
how you surround yourself with good people, make sure everybody's
got the same goal, because you know as well as
us how hard it is. There's always somebody trying to
do their own thing or not following the path. And

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I think if we had not had John Demmick, Mike Shephard,
Steve Renols, we're Steve Reynold's guys. He's a great consultant
in our life, we'd probably be selling cars and I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Be selling anything. I'm a terrible salesperson.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I can't even sell myself. I'm not the worst, So
I don't know what i'd be doing, but it would be.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
That very similarly. Again, mylepath has been odd, as in
nowhere I went, did they ever say we trust and
believe in you, And here's a bunch of money or
any money to hire anybody, So such as hire all
my friends because they would work for free or cheap.
And what was a curse actually turned out to be
the best thing for me. Is sure, we all made
no money for a long time, but I was able

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to hire my friends and I trusted them, not only
trusted them to be with me, but they made me
feel better. So I was better right, like they would
put me in a place where I thought comfortable. And
you know, if you're comfortable, you perform so much better.
It doesn't matter what you're doing, if I'm doing stand up,
or if I'm doing or Eddie and or do music
or we're doing the radio show. If you just feel
better and loose and free, you perform better. So much

(13:10):
like what you guys found. But what were you Tony?
What what shift were you doing at the rock station
mid days? And what Chris, what were you doing when
you came in?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I was doing swing shift weekends. I started in radio
when I was fourteen and was at a competitive, competing
station across town.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
So you guys were in the same town, but you
came to the same station that he was for like weekends.
And is there like a potluck or something? Because I
worked at a very small station and we almost never
saw each other unless you were there at the shift
when the switch off happened.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I was one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
When I was fourteen, I decided I was going to
get into radio because I listened to Mark and Bryan
and wanted to.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Be them in La.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, they were in Birmingham, and I wanted to be.
They were in birminghaming in Alabama. That's where we worshiped them.
We were like, and we want to be those guys.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I was at the station and I would win
everything they gave away and given that guy, they finally
just said, will you quit win and everything? I said,
give me a tour of the state and I'll stop.
And they gave me a tour and I said, I'm
going to work here, and they said, well, go to college.
I said, I'm not going to college. I hate school.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
And a year later.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I was just there all the time. If DJ needed
his car washed, I washed his car, if I did whatever.
And someone didn't show up for a shift one night
and I was like, I can do it, and they
were like really. And that's how I got started. So
then when we met, we did much the same thing.
We were like, let's just get some chemistry. Whenever one
of us have a remote, the other one will come

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for free, and we'll just do the breaks together to
start talking together.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
We did remote breaks together.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And just to get a feel for me together. Ye yes,
it's not as easy as people. If you're good at
it, it sounds super easy, but you know it isn't.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
And then the crazy thing is when we got our
first morning gig, which Tony tells that story better than me,
but talking about kindness, we didn't have an aircheck and
June Jam was going on in Fort Payne, Alabama, and
my old PD called and said, Hey, I've got a
friend we just hired from our pop station to be

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on the country station, and he's the PD. He needs
to stay somewhere in Fort Payne for this June Jam
a concert.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Oh yeah, it was like a festal back to do
that in Fort Payne.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I mean, it's a good name. I didn't know if
it was like a woman that made suit like June Jam.
You know where she lived down on Third Street.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I apologize, got it? No, no, no, Alabama did that
for years. I think they brought it back just a
couple of years ago and been doing it. But it
was the thing. And we were like, dude, there's not
a hotel room within one hundred three hotels in pain
and we were like, but we're renting a place if
he wants to sleep on the couch. And so he
came and he hung out for two or three days
with us and walked around and at the end of

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the ice. It had to be divine intervention or something,
because he goes, do you all have a tape of
your show?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
And we said no.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Did you have a show though? Yes at that time?
So you started doing a show together?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
But how did that have?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I know you're doing breaks, but who believed in you?
And did you do like weekend stuff first? Or what
happened to you even get on the air together as
a formal show.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Well we his hormones really are to think he was.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It was Saturday and my old country station was across
the street at a pool store doing a remote and
they had a girl out there at the at the
hot tub in a bikini or whatever I do.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I was getting off. He was getting on. You go
over there and finding who that is? Get her number?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Man?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I said, first of all, Nut your pimp, and I'm
not going.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
To do this.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'm not going out to get you. I'm scooring chicks
for you, so please men, just okay. So I go
over and in the process of this.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Which there was no social media, it was battle conditions
and let me let me and let me skip to
the end.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I never got her number because I got sidetracked. My
old boss was there and I said, hey, how you doing,
you know, catching up, and he's like, oh, you know,
we're looking for a morning show. I said, what a coincidence,
we're trying to be a morning show. Could we don't
He said, you have a table, said, we don't have anything.
We're brand new. And the tape we made was this
fake tape thinking we were going to be rot Guy.
So it was a much different kind of tape that
we sent out, you know, to everybody, thinking well, those

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offers are going to come rolling in now, which it
was terrible. So he said, hey, yeah, man, that'd be great.
He says, you could come over to the station. You
could just make one right in our studio.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Great.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
So it's the day we're supposed to do this and
the weather went crazy. Tornadoes are coming through like nobody's business.
But we're not going to miss this up opportunity. So
we jumped in my little colt and off we went,
drove through a tornado, literally drove through a tornado to
get to the radio station to make this audition tape.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
For whatever reason, he liked it and he gave us
the job, and it was I think we agreed to
twelve thousand a year each. Well, we made no money.
I don't think it was the tape. We made no money.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, it was cheap, but it was crazy because they
you know, he puts us in the room and he says,
all right, you'll be on Monday morning.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
We have no clock.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
He gave us no notes, he gave us no information.
We had never done a morning show together.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
We didn't, so all we knew was, Okay, we think
we're pretty funny. Is it something Mark and Brian would
have done?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
This is a bit Mark and Brian would do, So
let's just steal it and we'll just do that. And
we made a name and we showed up in Birmingham's
ratings and it was crazy and.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Like a little bit.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Wasn't that a blessing that you didn't know what to
do so you didn't do it like anything? Because I
felt like that way about me because I just kind
of raw dogged about ten years in my career. I
knew nothing, didn't know anybody had nobody. I even knew
that it was in radio. But again, it was the
best thing that ever happened to me because I made
my own style of you know what, was like, wow,
look at this new No. I just didn't know what

(18:02):
I was doing, but that allowed me to figure out
what I was best at. Like do you look back
at that and go, man, that was really beneficial to.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
And and it's crazy too because you know, you first
start out, we'd never done an interview, so the first
few interviews are terrible, but that ended up being the
best thing we do over time. You know, when people
talked about training artists, there is that he can we
bring him in and let you guys do an interview
because we think that would be.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Great for them. Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
But the gig was you know, it was it was
crazy and it was and then you know, you fast
forward a little bit. I think we got that job
in maybe October of ninety one, and then June and
this guy is staying with.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Us, and then the tape thing. Oh yeah, that June
Jam and she was awesome.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
By the way, June Jam really I loved her.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I loved her as our friend that we were introduced
to had stayed with us all weekend.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
He just goes, do you have a tape of your show?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
We were like, Noah, And right then, I mean, as
he's the words are coming out of his mouth. RPD
walks up and goes, guys, I made a CMA entry,
it's all you guys, and hands us the tape and.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
He basically an audition tape that he had.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I was Dave Kelly, who ended up working for Big
Loud all those years and everything, and it was just like, wow,
if we had been mean to him or snotty and
just said don't know what to tell you, there's no
rooms left, and what's great is who knows where we'd be.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
This was happening unbeknownst to us.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
We gave him that tape to thinking, Okay, great, he'll
listen to the tape and that it'll be that. Behind
the scenes, we were hoping our big five year plan
was to get a job in Birmingham. We can get
to Birmingham.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
That'd be great.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
That was literroc to me. But yeah, you're Birmingham was
my literarrock. Yeah, so that was our thing.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
And then we find out that Dave has given that
tape to a consultant, Phil Hunt, who was Rusty Walker's partner,
legendary consultant back in the day, and he was going
to get us a job in Charlotte. And we found
they told us say, hey, I think they're going to
offer you this job in Charlotte, and.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
We were pissing our pants. We're like, they've got a
they've got a basketball team. There's that's like a real city, man.
I mean it was. It was too It was just crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
And then Rusty Walker said, no, I got to I
think I got a better place for these boys.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
And we didn't know this was happening.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
He sent the tape to Mike Shepard in San Diego
and said, I want you to listen to this. He said, well,
they're super green, but he said, there's something there. Then,
there's a chemistry there. There's a I don't want to
say magic, it feels weird to say about yourself, but
there was something there, he thought. So you moved from
where to Wear from Aniston, Alabama to San Diego, California.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
That's quite the jump.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
The leave of the century radio.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, the media culture shock there.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
That had to have happened the first remote, the last
remote we did in Aniston, I had taken a shoelace
out of my shoe and tied around the PVC pipe
we were using on the mic stand to hold the
marty and we're tying it up and.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Like, okay, we're serving the pizza.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
First remote in San Diego, Tony and I start helping
break everything down at the end and everybody's like wha, wha,
what are you doing? And we're like, well, we're just
helping pack stuff up and they're like, no, you go
go away, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Oh oh this is pretty cool. Yeah, it was definitely big.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Did you and I'm assuming the answers yes, But even
like the guests that would give you the time of day.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh oh yeah, people would.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
The only thing we had going for us in Alabama
is that we became friends with Randy Owen, there's a
lead singer aout Labama, and went to his house a
lot and to his family.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
I mean, we were friends, and Randy gave us a
little you know, a little whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Talk well, not not even, but he gave us I
can't think of the word of credibility, thank you. He
gave us credibility to say, okay, well, he likes these
guys for some reason.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
He sent a letter without us knowing it to San Diego.
We told him, hey, we might end up in San Diego,
and he sent a letter to them, said, these are
great guys.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
You need to sign them.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
The opposite, they're terrible, just so that you'd stay with him.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I love not hire.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
These guys as far away as possible for my family.
Please hire them.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
It was it was pretty wild, and so we would
get the NASCAR guys, we would get you know, Randy
or any friends of Randy. We have to go to
the June jam golf tournament, which is where we first met.
That's probably our first time meeting several country stars at once,
and it was all pretty wild.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Speaking of Randy, obviously he spent a bunch of his
career working close with Saint Jude, which we I think
we all do in this room. But I was listening
to you guys tell the story about Chris Cagel. So
it's the Saint Jude thing. Did I never knew Chris Cagle.
I missed Chris Kagel, but I heard he was kind
of a wild guy. Yeah, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Of Chris Gaggle. Couldn't get out of his own way, So.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
And that was kind of the story and I'd let
you guys tell it, but he just would stop talking
on stage.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh that was a great story. Yeah, that was fantastic.
We were doing a radio thign Trace Atkins. You may
not know, we'll speak his mind.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I do know ya.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And it was just one of those days that you
want to tell this one. Do you remember the story
too about Kegel where he's doing that?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
You know who I am?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
The lady had the season. You tell this one, then
I'll tell the seizure.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, So this, I mean, it's very simple. It's a
guitar poll. But Chris really wanted to be Garth. And
you know, Garth was a great storyteller, and Garth would
talk a lot and he would hold the room.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Chris didn't. I mean, he was good, he had chrisma,
but he wasn't Garth.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
And he's up there and he's trying just leading into
this song and it goes on and finally Trace just
leans over and goes, hey, man, just shut up and
play the damn song and he immediately does. And then
the best part of that story though, is that later
in la it was overheard he's on the phone, so
I guess.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Was at the hotel. They were all checking.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
They all rode one bus down from LA and did
our show in San Diego.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Wee time that the golf.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Tournament near the ACMs when it was in Los Angeles
and somebody wanted and they only heard Chris kgel side
of the conversations.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Well, then he yelled at me. He told me to
play the damn song. It's quiet because he's seven feet tall.
That's why, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
It was just he was wlinding to somebody. But it
was just such a great story. I felt kind of
bad for him it. At the same time, Trace was right,
shut up and play the damn song.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
At the same time was talking about it.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
No out of the way we were.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
He stayed at our hotel one time we were here
when we'd come out and he parked his vet or
whatever his car was right in front of the front
door and took the keys with him and the valet
and everybody's my ad. They're all like, we can't get
in here. So those are the kind of things he
did to get not get out of his own way. Yeah,
but uh, theory and I it's been so long and
I may it's at the Bridge bar during CRS. So

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my memory may be foggy, but a lady had had
a seizure and everybody was jumped down trying to help her,
and Cagel jumps in and is like out of the way,
out of the way, pulls everybody back, and we're thinking
he must know exactly great, and he grabs her and
looks at her as she's kind of coming to and says,
do you know who I am? I'm Chris Cagle. I
sing a song called Beautiful Day and we're all like,

(24:30):
this is this the time to promo?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Nobody knew what to do. We're all like, okay, that's
just one way to go. What's your favorite Garth story?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Oh? God, man, that guy.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
When we were going to be jerks to him, that
was my favorite. Like we were like, we're not going
to fall for this. It was the Fresh Horses tour,
you know, he was for his first interview.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
By the way, Arthur was my first interview. I was
still working in Aniston.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Really horses and that's like sixth album, fifth album, right, yeah,
ninety six.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
It was He sold out like three or four nights
at the Sports Arena and it was before country was
cool too, because like Michael Bolton was there the next
night and all three TV stations are out there with
the helicopters. Gar sells out three nights nothing. But we
we're not going to be We're not going to buy
into him working us. And we go to that backstage
and we've got like eight winners with us and we're

(25:22):
not in the usual place where you do the meet
and greets, and we realize we're in his dressing room
and we walk in and I'm like, where's his no guy,
because you know, everybody's got the no guide to lot
of us move things along, and it's just Garth. And
he looks at me and goes, hey, you bought a
hat and I'm like, yeah, you know you got to
do it. And I got a book from my neighbor
here and he's oh okay, and he leads out the door,

(25:43):
comes back, hands me my money and says, oh, dude,
you play my records. I don't need your merch money.
And I'm like, look at him trying to work us.
And then and then it just kept. We decide to
take over things because it's been twenty minutes. He's calling
people on cell phones. He's talking to these you know,
listeners and hanging out with and just being over the

(26:04):
top getting them drinks, and I'm like, okay, we got
to end this.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
This has been too long.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Even we were feeling uncomfortable, like this is too nice,
and we're like Garth, we're sorry, We're gonna move on
out now everybody, and Garth slats sit down on the show.
I ain't gonna start without me, don't worry, and we're
like okay, and then he does, I'll let Tony tell
the part that we're twenty something years later, we're still going.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Well, that's it.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I mean, that's the genius I think of him and
an artist like him, they do something that impacts your
life in a way that you tell the story every
chance you get. So, yeah, my wife at the time
had just had our third child, and so she wanted
to come to the show.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Couldn't come to the show.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean, she was baby was brand new, she had
just come home. And he's like, oh, man, so he said,
can I call her? Of course, So he calls my wife.
Sorry and he's on the phone. I have no idea
what's going to be said, and he's like, well, hey,
I'm sorry you couldn't make it tonight.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It says, could you if we set something up for
you backstage, if you could maybe get a I'm trying
to remem if if she had just had the baby,
or she hadn't had the baby, had the baby, Okay,
she had me. This is terrible memory of my own children.
The same way at the concept s Yes, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
so she said, we'll send it a nextage. You can
come back and do whatever you need to do if

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you want to get out of the crowd. She said, yes,
of course, he's great. So he told me, he said, hey,
you guys are going to come to the show tomorrow night.
We at that moment, his guy said, hey, we.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Got to go.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's time to go. He start putting his headset on,
putting his head set on, and he does not speak
really to anyone else. We walk with him to he said,
walk with me to the stage. We walk into the stage.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
He walks up on the stage and starts the show,
and I'm like, that's the last all over here about that.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I mean, it was a nice gesture. But next day
we do the show.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
At ten oh one, my phone rings and it's the
guy and he said, hey, I'm calling on behf of Garth,
and he said, we were supposed to set this up.
Yeahda YadA YadA, And I said okay. And we go
to the show that night and somewhere there's a picture
of my ex wife standing. He's holding the towel. He's
about to jump in the shower, but he gets a
picture with her, and he sends a guy basically into
the audience with us. We have really great seats and

(27:59):
he stands back about three rows and if she fidgeted
or he popped down, okay, did everything all right?

Speaker 4 (28:07):
You want to go backstage? You want? I mean he
was just there as her you know, her Man Friday
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It was crazy, and you know, it's just one of
those above and beyond moments. Again, what artist says, hey,
we'll set something up. You can go backstage and hang
out if it gets too much to be in the crowd.
It was a great moment, and our plan to not
fall get them to his charms stories did not work.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
He's the most consistent, extremely gracious and kind major artists
that I've ever met. When I keep waiting for him
not to be exactly because it doesn't seem you can't
believe it. You can't and at this point, I've given
up on doubting him, probably the same way you have,
because it's been so consistent. And some people will say

(28:50):
to me, and it can be Guarth or it could
be Taylor or whomever. When they have really great people
that work around them too, they're like, well, but they
hire good people. And my response is, but they have
to hire good people to do and like represent their sensibilities, right,
You shouldn't punish people because they're also hiring great people
to make sure that things are followed. And so Garth
was so cool. It was the same way. I just

(29:11):
kept waiting for him to crack, and now he's just
not gonna crack.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I think what blew me away.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Going back to him being my first interview, it was
my first day I just got and moved to afternoons
in this country station. It was a pretty big deal
for me because I was a still kid and he
comes in, Hey, there's new guys coming in.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
He's got a song out. You gonna interview?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
And I was like, I'm just my first shift on afternoons.
I'm already nervous. Now I gotta interview somebody I've never
even done an interview. Okay, and he.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Gives me the press pack and Garth Brooks and I
read through it. I'm like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
He comes in, he's you wouldn't know the difference, same guy,
same way. He sang the John Deere jingle that he
that he's saying back in the day when he was
still singing jingles and doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
He was kind.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
And then he had that show that there's a place
called the Alabama Show Palace and it was a pretty
big place for that small town. It held like a
thousand pe people and that night, you know, they thought
it was gonna be big.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
And he's told this story on the Tonight Show. Another place.
He goes, man, we were so rocking.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
We were this is gonna be huge, guys, and said
we ran out on the stage and we opened it
up and there were seven people in the end, nobody
came because nobody knew who he was.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
And I was there.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I was one of them, and I was always proud to
be one of the Anniston seven, which is what he
calls us. But then, you know, we interviewed him in
San Diego years later after he blew up and I
told him, I said, man, said, you were my first interview,
and I have to get pay you with the compliment
that you are as kind and generous with your time
now when you are a superstar as you were when
you were really.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Nobody, you were just starting. I said, it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Chris, who was your first interview?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
First interview? Wow, I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I'm trying to think of It's probably with us, probably
Randy o One.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Maybe we hung up on him the first time he called.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, it's like you don't know who you lost your
virginity to right now. You understand that right like you
should know that's.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
That's dicey with me too. Just to be completely frank,
he was an elementary school. You can't expect him to
remember that bar exackly.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Darius was mine. I was working in the pop station
and I interviewed him with a little handheld. I was
nervous as crap. I was seventeen, eighteen years old at
Magic Springs. And it's pretty cool because our careers have
kind of paralleled each other, and Darius and I are
still super cool, and but I just remember being so
nervous and him being like, hey, I got you good,
and whod He was huge at the time. Whod he

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was massive.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
At least another one. He's always just excellent.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I always said I wanted to be. He's always happy.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Like I went through a phase in my life where
I just was angry at everybody, and then I decided,
you know, like I'm just going to change that I
want to be. And I would say, I want to
be more like Darius because I never see him not
smiling except for his mug SHOT's right, that's the one.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Other than that. And I always smiled, always happy. I
can't blame him for that.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
My new favorite Darius story that is between us, Like
it's between like Darius and I in the same place.
I was doing stand up and Darius had come to
my show in Florida, and I saw him for like
five seconds before the show, because he got there during
the opening act and I was about to go out
into the and he's like, I'm here. And I wasn't
surprised he showed up, but I was surprisedly showed up,
you know, yeah, because.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
That's cool, it's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yes, So Darius comes up and I don't know where
he is, and about five minutes in, I'm into my
pretty good material that I know is going to work,
and I can hear it, like in the crowd laughing,
so where I can identify. And every time I told
a joke, I would hear Darius laugh. And there was
one point I told a joke and I didn't hear it,
and I was like, everybody stop, Darius, and I think
that joke is funny. Laughs so loud and cut through

(32:30):
that I knew exactly where he was, and also all
night knew what he did not think was funny because
he did not laugh at those jokes.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
On our show one time and we spliced sixty seconds
of him laughing that's all, and we would have an
intro on it like take time now to lighten up
and just play it because you can't not laugh along
with his laugh is infectious.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Hey, who was the first interview you did?

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Probably you? I mean talk about full circle, probably you?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, but you know me as as a news reporter.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
So what's funny is the way we met was I
worked for the news station in Austin and he had
his radio show and they had sent me as a
as a photok reporter kind of guy go to some
steam clean carpet place or whatever, because who was William Hung.
William Hung was playing wow solid, see if you can
get an interview with William Hung.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
So I go with my camera.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
And that's a quote that he's not going to be
said anywhere else today, I assure you.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
And so we're waiting for William Hung. And finally somebody
comes up says William can't do it, but we have
the local DJ guy, Bobby Bones if you want him,
Like sure, whatever, I mean, I'm not going to go
back to the station without an interview.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
So I interviewed Bobby. That was how we first met
fell in love.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I was going to.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Say, what a great story. Yeah, I'll be able to say, like,
y'all William Hung. William Hung had shown up exactly your career.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
William Hung.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
He was actually kind of tough. Yeah, like he didn't
want to talk to anybody, is you know.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Because he was an embarrassed or something. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I think he was having his moment.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Where he was playing the carpet clean.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Moment.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I logically can see why that should he shouldn't have
thought that way, but I think he was like at
the peak of his fame, and so I think he
was like too cool. For a minute, I think he
was too cool. You guys go to San Diego. How
long were you on together in San Diego?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Ninety three to two and fifteen years? Fifteen years? I think, well,
that last year was just paid out.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
You got paid for a whole year.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Oh more than that. It was the craziest thing.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
We won't go into the radio company that did it,
but before it was we were making really good money.
That they had built a station across the street for us,
and we went across the street and then halfway through it,
we were number one, beating our old station that had
never been beaten before.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Okay, let me let me for those who don't know,
so across the street means a rival. So you were
working at a different station and Clair Channel built a
station and then they said, hey, come, so they hired
you away from your old station.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yes, got it, And we were crushing like they put
a ridiculous bonus in if you could beat your old
station because it was always number one, and we it
in the first book and everybody was losing their mind.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
And then a new Jane to clarified one quick thing.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
They didn't hire us away like we just went for
more money. There's a story behind it. We wanted to
stay at casom oh if we were there for ten years.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
We'ning aig contract negotiation and you picked them.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It was a big contract negotiation. The contract had been
negotiated in principle, we just hadn't signed the contract yet.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Everything was done. They flowers for our wives. It was great.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
And then the VP at the at that time, it
was an insurance company that owned Caso, Lincoln Financial, she
saw it the deal and she said, what what are
we doing. We're not paying these guys this money. And
they're like, yes, we are. This is what the market
will bear, this is what the top shows are making.
She says, well, we've never paid a show this much
and we're not doing that. So she renegged on the deal.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Wow, she next the deal and then she sent word
down when they'll either take it what they're doing for
another year, one year contract so we can find someone cheaper,
or they can go to another market and we'll tell
everybody they ditched for more money.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
And that was the Kaso and way. Because there were
some big names that came out of there. Jack Diamond
back in the day, Lisa Dent who went to Chicago
had great success. It was a station where if you left,
if you were successful on the left, you left the city.
Nobody had ever stayed because there was no country station
who would take him on ever. So this was right
before the holidays. It was weird because we always took
two weeks off at the end of the year and

(36:10):
we're packing up our stuff. But then we basically called
the buddy of ours and said, hey, can you come
help us get this out.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
We're going to.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Empty out the office because we knew when we left
we were leaving for good. And our agent called the
guy's a clear channel and said, hey, would you be
interested in Tony and Chris And they were like, absolutely,
but they'll never leave k soom I mean, they're killing
it over there, and he was a funny.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Story and he told them what happened. They said.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
The guy was like, give me a couple of days
because now we're in the holidays.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Books were closed. Obviously, long story.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Short, it got done and when we left KSN before
Christmas two weeks before, came back in January to a
brand new radio station that had been built for us.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Was that a super stressful, intense time for you?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yes, that you talk about it now, it's like how
hum But really at the time, it was like, oh
my god, horrible. Yeah, I'm like, what am I going
to do?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
I've got I got kids, we've got a house.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Like even though the other station you loved everybody at
the other station, and then you're coming on and it
was just weird and like jealous, there's people in our
seats and across the street.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
How quickly did they hire someone new?

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Pretty quick? They had to. Actually, I take that back,
like a year.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
They put in like a mid the midday guy and somebody,
and they were on there for that, only it was a.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Year and they're dead man walking. It almost doesn't matter
who it is.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, they knew well they and the nice thing about
to their credit, they weren't hiring them to do the
morning show and then get rid of them when they
were done. The guy stayed on with the company for
a while doing midday the things. But you know, they
did what they had to do, and then they hired
a show that was, in my opinion, not awesome. But
it's tough because they're putting people together who weren't already
a show, and that's that's risky.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
What was it like at the new place?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Initially it was great and initially well with the GM
when he hired us, he goes, look, our afternoon guy
is a good kid. He's the PD. Will you guys
kind of train him how to be a PD?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
And did you know how to be a PD? Huh?
Did you guys know how to be a PD? Well?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I think we knew. We knew how to be ks
the best. Yeah, we knew how to be ks.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
And so there we would say, like, the first thing
they're going to do is say call all the record
labels and say if you do anything with them, we're
not going to play the records. So we said, let's
get the PD or the music director at k and
i X to be our music director also, so that
takes away that leverage.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
And you know, so we were little things like that.
It was a brand new station.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
We weren't reporting, but Anix was and so it was
Gwynn Foster so and so that that held that they
couldn't say, well, we won't play it anymore.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
So well neither were Knix.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
So we we crushed them and we're I mean, it
was just rocking and it was great. And then the
new GM come in, and the new GM the the
Afternoon Jock was not the PD was not smart.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
How long was your turn? Your new contract for five years? Year?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
And when the new GM come in, the GM basically
said I don't need a morning show's input.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I've got a PD right here. I didn't believe in
country either, So it was we were out of the.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Gate fundamentally, just a bad fit.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, And then as soon as that happened, we we
got cut out of the loop on everything, and the
decision started being weird. Like I remember one day being
at CMA the roundtable thing, and lady walked up and goes, boy,
it's a tough day for you guys, and we're like what,
And she goes the PD's calling all the regionals or
the record reps and telling them that we don't need
you anymore because they decided they're going to start leaning

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more old Country.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
We're like what.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
So we had to call and get that stopped, and
then like six weeks later, without telling anybody, they flipped
it to New Country.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
It was just weird.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
But anyhow, when we were saying the last year we
just got paid out, we were calling our agent, and
our agent finally just said. One day he goes, guys, Paul,
you know Paul I do, and he goes, guys, you're
trying to win and you will not win. They want
you gone, and we're like, well, what.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Do we do?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
And so we went and said, if you don't want
us here, let us out, and they were like, oh, no,
we want you here, but we need you to sign this.
And it was a list of you will not crazy
ask stuff. You will not talk more than twenty seconds
of break. You will never say your name, you will
run no imaging with your name.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
If traffic's more than sixty seconds out of this window.
I mean, all these crazy reasons.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
They can find out where was this coming from? Like
what you actually have some clarity from it now because
you're far removed. But really, what was happening? What was
the goal in.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Well, we found out because of an email. Basically they
wanted to save the money.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Did they were paying you guys the GM They were
trying to get us for cause because it was an
ironclad contract, and.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
That's why they were giving you all these stipulations. They
were ready for you to break one because they were
so hard to maintain.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Just take the checks in our building to chat.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Remember when the craze happened where everybody was buying everybody. Yes,
we had Jeff and jer Dave Shelley, and Chainsaw us AJ.
The four biggest morning shows in San Diego were all
in one hallway and that was a lot of money,
a lot of money back then. And they just the
new GM come in and goes, I don't want that,
Like they replaced our show when we left with two
part timers who at one of which had never been

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in a radio station six weeks before.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's kind of like when George gets fired from the
Yankees and they're like, who's doing your job now?

Speaker 4 (40:48):
An intern? He comes in on Mondays, you know, it's
like out hurt.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
So that GM came in with a completely different agenda
and he was trying to put the pieces together to
eliminate a lot of cash being paid out to talent.
Didn't believe in talent basically.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, I mean it was it was probably the beginning
of the end for talent in San Diego anyway at
that time.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
So for a year we just our agent just said
just go in, get do the weather, the calls, and
play solitaire all morning and cash those checks.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
So in the meantime, all work to get you out
of this, and he eventually did. And they had to
pass eighteen months to do nothing, which was great.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
So wait, was the do nothing the solitaire? And I
consider waking up in the morning something at the hours
we have to wake up.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Well, we left the building like they take us out
for eighteen months, and we.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Just slept in for eighteen months to got paid.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And then that time that was when we first started,
you know, our little syndication idea. We're like, oh, because
we would have to do it for country, because country hadn't
been done at that time. Sure you didn't exist at
that point.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
As far as we were, you cracked the code. We
were never able to do that. Yeah, yeah, but anyway,
so it was it was an interesting time, stressful.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
But the eighteen months even for like that, as amazing
as it sounds, to get paid and not work, I
would not like that.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, that's why it took us that long to get
the syndication set up. We were traveling the country because
everybody we talked to at that time said syndication won't
work in country. And I kept saying, I feel like
that's a cop out from pds that are scared for
their job, because it's like, oh, it won't work in country.
It's like, I don't know people that wake up and
go I'll listen to Howard Stern because it's rock, but
I will not listen to a country DJ that's syndicated.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
I just don't. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Mike mcvay's most recent an article about how to win
with syndication, and I just was reading the comment I
didn't read the article because I don't care.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I was reading the comments because I always I'm speaking honest, man.
But I'm reading the comments because I'm always curious to
see how people and I'm watching people quote things that
we said about syndication ten years ago. I'm like, where
were you guys when we needed we have We had
this idea, man, But it was funny, Oh, if you
do this and you do this, And I was like, yeah,
that's true, that's accurate. They knew a lot about it

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because they all had lived it on one side or
the other of that world.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Did you when you guys were getting paid, because again,
I would be so stressed out and again I think
on the surface, like, well, eighteen months, you get paid,
but you guys are working building something else while you're
getting paid. But I would just feel like I'm looking
at a clock ticking. It was.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
It was very much like that, And when you got
down to the end of the eighteen months, it still
took longer.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
After that.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It wasn't like we timed it out perfectly. Hey, all right,
this is great.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
You know it was. I had a wife and three kids.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Our marriage was already on the rock, so I was
so stressed out by my personal life being such a mess,
and then we're trying to figure out now we got
to move to Nashville. Just going to Nashville for a
week to find a place to live was the greatest
time in my life.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
I get out of that for a second.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
And I, you know, not to get all into this,
but I should have told her then, I said we
shouldn't do this.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I should have ended it before we moved to Nashville,
because then it just got worse.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Did you guys ever think about splitting up you two us. No,
it was never a conversation, never really had an argument.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
It's what I think it's because I know this sounds crazy,
but I swear when we decided to put the tape together,
we said we're going to be fifty to fifty partners
because we knew other morning shows and it was always like, well,
he makes three thousand dollars more year because he runs
the board and you know, or he does production or whatever.
And we were like, we're gonna be if they want
just you because I have more of an accent, because

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back then they were like Tony sounds so he you know,
he doesn't have the accent like the Hicco.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Which is that just didn't sound like I was born
and raised in Alabama.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
But we were like, it doesn't matter. You pay one
of us, you pay both of us. And we fought
for that.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
We had DJ.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I mean, one of our pds told us he just goes.
I'm told to drive a wedge between you two so
I can get you for separate remotes, and we were like,
that's not fine, as long as.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
We both get paid.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
It's had the cast of friends, man, I like that,
just not a million bucks in episodes.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
It was funny because we had he had started as
an intern for us, and then he was a promo
sist and he's very successful now in Pensacola.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
I don't even know what name he goes. He's got
so many different names.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Brent Lane, Brent Lane, I thinks is on your name
and super nice guy and he worked really hard and
he has He has developed a very successful show. He
married Pensacola and made it and he's killing it. But
he called us when we were still in San Diego.
I said, gonna ask you guys some advice. Is what
do you do when you're having when you fight about something?
My new partner were not getting along, and I was like, honestly, man,

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I would love to give you some great nugget that
you could Ah, he fixed everything. I don't know, because
we've never had a fight. We just it's never gotten
to that point. That's not to say we've never disagreed.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Oh yeah, we've.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Disagreed, and ultimately we both know that we're so evil
that study and it would.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
End horribly if we ever got in a fight.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
So it's just it's always been one of those things
where if he's passionate about something that I wasn't, I
was like, I don't think this is great, but he's
clearly passionate. When we did it said if it works, great,
Hey I was wrong. If it doesn't work, I get
to go ha exactly, and vice versa. And then and
when things got you know, when things got hard in
San Diego, we knew we weren't done yet. We still
had things we wanted to do. We felt we still

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had something to give. So it was never even a
question of ending it at that point. And even when
we i mean we retired for seventeen days, you know,
six years ago after we hit twenty five years. We've
been doing syndication for seven or eight years, and we're.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Like, it wasn't fun for us.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
We just weren't having fills, you know, the you know,
the pds that set it and forget it.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
That's all we had.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
All of our stations were you haven't asked for liners in.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Over a year.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
We still deal with that familiar Yes, so they would
complain about the numbers, but you're not doing anything.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
This is a partnership. You're supposed to be working too.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
So anyway, we just said, this seems like a good
time maybe to stop this and we'll see what happens next.
We both had some things we wanted to do and
we did. And then we got that call from Noxville,
which I wish we had never taken it.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I wish we had never taken That was not a
good situation.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
It was horrible. I don't want to sound negative. I
don't sound like everything we had. Let me tell you
another thing that sucks about radio. It's not like that
at all. We have an incredible to the negative our yeah, no,
incredible career, and we have ninety percent awesome, fun stories
that we could tell over and over again, and then
there's that ten percent. But it was such that ten
percent is so horribly bad it doesn't leave a little mark.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
On your soul.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
What happened in Oxville. I remember you guys going to
Knoxville and and you know, basing from we were number
one every book.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I mean we came in and they thought it
was going to drop because we thought it would have
dropped because the morning show before us had in there
for twenty years, legendary station.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It was funny because it was the second time we
took over for a show that had been there a
long time.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
We did going Frankly, the market manager there is insane,
and I mean allegedly, yeah, allegedly allegedly told us racist statements.
I mean, just not a good person.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
The building is full of bad people. There's a few gems,
but it's mostly we.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Got called into his office one day.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Also, they were delusional a little bit over there because
they still believe it's nineteen eighty five, and they I swear.
One day I got called into a meeting, a creative
meeting for the bar. There. There's twenty people in this meeting,
and I'm going around the room going twenty bucks an hour,
thirty bucks an hour, ten bucks an hour. You know,
this is a three thousand dollars meeting, and they were
trying to Basically, they settled on an American Idol version

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for this Cotton Eye Joe, which is a bar, and
they want it to be like a ten week promotion.
I'm like, is there enough talent in Knoxville for a
ten week talent search? And the market manager goes us,
when Nashville hears the WIVK is doing this, the bands
and artists and labels are going to be driving bands

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over here for this, And I said for three hundred
dollars in a YETI cooler.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
He was serious.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I mean he meant that, but yeah, it was It
was not good. We got called into the office the
second week there and he played a sweeper and we
had taken one of the first callers that called in
and said, you guys are really funny, and he goes,
we didn't get that off the air.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
We're like wine. He goes, that's disrespectful to the previous
morning show.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Oh wow, it was crazy. Do you have a relationship
with the previous morning show? Why was He said that
you just can't change anything. Everything has to be right.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I've never seen a building more afraid of change. And
when we were even in San Diego years ago, we'd
see them always showup number one of the ratings with
these crazy numbers and we're like, man, that must be
a killer radio station. And we realized no. Once we
got there, we heard the stories. The dude who owned
it back then just bought everybody off. He just if
you tried to go up against him, he just paid
you money not to. So they were the only game
in town. So that's how they built those numbers. And

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then they wanted to live off those numbers and live
off that legacy in current times and it just you
can't do that. But they get away with it to
a point because it's not a super competitive market.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
You know, how long were you there?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Five horrible years?

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Five years?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Wow, I didn't realize it was that long.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah, five years of my life. I'll never get back.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Walk me through. What time do you wake up? Now?
Walk me through a day for you guys. Now, I'm
a night though. I mean, I am me too, man,
I am completely me too, And I.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Get to live that life now. It was fantastic. So
I go to bed midnight or one during the weeks.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
That's awesome, it is.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
It kicks ass. I'm like, I'm finally getting to be
my true self.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
It took me a while to get adjusted to not
going to bed at eight o'clock or whatever, get up
at two in the morning or three in the morning.
But I go to bed about eleven eleven thirty now
and get up at six in the morning to a workout,
get some stuff done. It's I gotta say, I look younger,
I feel younger. It's amazing what rest will do for you.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, sleep is nice. Yeah. My wife works.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
She's in a corporate world as a senior payroll manager
for Phillips North America. Excuse me, So she has a
real job and you know, and she worked for Williams
and Noman for many years before that, but she worked
remotely for them because she came from San Francisco to
live with me in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
And so now.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
She's you know, she's kind of she's been spoiled by that.
She used to go in the office a couple of
days a week now and it's like, oh man, but
I'm home. I get up, you know, I usually get
it when she gets up because we have three dogs
and we have some backyard chickens, and everything's got to
be taken care of, you know.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
So I'm the house husband right now.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Just do you guys live close to here?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I used to go part of the street. I live
in East Nashville right now, do but I used to
live right over the old side. Agree.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
He looks like an East Nashville guy does.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
It's a little hipsterside there.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Even when I watch him on TikTok this Billboard song
number one, and his hair is like perfectly like it's.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Like this crazy. My my haircut was scheduled for tomorrow
and I was like, ah, but.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
It's like the hipster blonde grayish cool color. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Do you find that you get this too, because it
annoys me because he puts all this work into it,
and I'll look at the comments in the first comment
is just to dig a him, like who's the creep
with the hair?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
The comments on kind of my favorite that these are
funny though, because I'm like, this person is clearly just
trying to be an asshole, and I'm down with that
because I'm the same way.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
But I'm not a troll.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
You know, you guys, when you are doing content, now,
how often do you get together to do that?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
It depends really, right, we wed the story the radio
stories thing we're doing now, we get together about once
a month and knock out just a bunch of stories
and then he does his that music minute.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Yeah, that work is kind of like we scheduled our
radio staff.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
We knew if we're going to be doing this, let's
get as much of that part done early, and then
the contents just sitting there and we can go back
and so we mean, I think we record thirty.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Or forty of those radio stories at a time. Really,
I take them home and then I.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Go I just and it's they're super easy to add it.
I put them together and stick them.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Up and we set there and go, well, we don't
have any stories, and then we'll either look through some
old archives of interviews and go, oh, remember what we
learned from that or what happened there. And then now
we got people calling us going, hey, have you told
the Oh no, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, I mean they're just it's you know, thirty years
is a long time, a lot of stories, and we
drank a lot heavier back than we do now. So
some of the stories you have to have somebody remind
you that you did something and go, oh, that was
pretty funny. I wish I remembered it.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Do you think that you have you thought about doing
like a long form podcast?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
When we started doing the digital stuff, we we began
that way, and we did it exclusively on videos. We
went we wanted to make YouTube kind of our thing,
and it was slow going, but it built a little
bit and we and we got into that three and
four thousand subscriber range, which you know, starting from scratch,
two guys in their fifties for as we were sure.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
We were happy with that.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
But uh, and then it's funny how one viral thing
I did one of my Billboard stories on Sheriff when I'm.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
With You, and it went viral.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Waituh, Sheriff when I'm with You one hit wonders, how
does it get it?

Speaker 4 (52:43):
You know, no, I don't know. That was okay, yeah,
to look it up. It's a great story.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I don't want to tell you yet. Now.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
As about the song, the song not like him, but
he's got a crazy high give me the melody. Well,
the chorus is a big course. He comes up with
this really high voice. Baby, I get chills when with
you whoa.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
And at the end of cheese at it's but at
the end of it he was just note. That's like
he holds it forever for a while. It was the
Guinness World Record for the longest note.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And I found out researching that story he only did
it because he didn't know the song was over, Like
nobody told him to cut, so he just hit.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
The note and just kept going.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
That's funny.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
It was like Bugs Bunny and that cartoon.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
I love that way.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
I love that way it goes. It makes the sandwich
and gloves still doing it that.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
You know that blew up And so now you know,
almost fourteen thousand subscriber one story, and there's one sixty
second short of them, and it's a million people next thing, you.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Know, I'm annoyed. But what he can also sing?

Speaker 5 (53:36):
I mean good looking, it's so dumb. I mean yeah, yeah,
hawk too.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
It's hilarious that happened here.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I know. Yeah, and I'm I'm there for a father,
Oh my god. And then see I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
My daughter, Oh my god. I don't ever see something
like that, just that poor dad right now. And I
just saw a thing that she made, like sixty five
thousand and signing merchandise she.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Was in hiding for a while. The weirdest thing to
go really viral. But also that sucks.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, oh it's sometimes and it's also awful. That's the
one thing that united our nation.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
True.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
They will take anything for a little piece.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I'll take it. Man.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Let's see this song. And we found workarounds to play
music on podcasts because it's I legal. We just played
from our phone, blow to the microphone.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
If it's ambient noise.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah, the good to know.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Well, I'm not saying don't take my legal. Yeah, I'm
just saying it happened. You can't really play it on
demand because that's the big fight here, so we play
a little bit. I don't think I know that.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
I don't know it either.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
It's a one hit wonder. What's crazy? Is this guy?
Freddy King's last name Percy. He is.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
He has the distinction of being the lead singer of
two different bands that are one hit wonders.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
What's the other band? That's the end of the song.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Alias is the band and the song is more than
words can say. It was another late eighties early nineties.
We played that at Kicks. It's They basically said, let's
make a second when I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
It's Kicks in the rock station.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Kicks was a rock station. That was the name of
the rock station.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, So that song, they released it and they were
really trying to make it and it didn't go anywhere,
and so they were like, damn, I guess they will
break up. It's not going to work. So they broke up.
Years later, I want to say five six years later,
some PD said, man, that song, that song deserves a
second chance, and he played it and that was I
want to say, in Atlanta, and then somebody in Minneapolis said,

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all right, kt kt W.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Or yeah pop stations.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah, they said, hey, that is a good song. They
started playing next thing, you know what kind of takes
off nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
I think it hit number one for one week, one
glorious week.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Wow, and they The singer was working as a courier
at the time, and he walked into an office and
it was playing on the radio and he goes, that's me,
and the girl didn't believe him. He goes, no, I'm
telling you that's I sang that song. She goes yeah, sure.
He calls the rest of the band says, do you guys
want to get back together? We have this heat now
we have a song that's number one, and they're like
Nahin the other main guy, the guitarist, started a new band.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I guess that's really I can tell you so many
bands right now. I wish would not get back together. Yeah,
really big in Canada. So he said, all right, well
I'm going to go start a different band. Then, so
he took the other guys from the band and made Alias.
They had that one big hit and they drifted off.
You have music nerds, it's like it's like dinner with
Casey case It's awesome. So you're managing somebody, Yes, what
the what in the world. I tried everything to not

(56:09):
do that.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Who is it?

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Styles? Is his name?

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Styles?

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, I wrote I wrote her song with him? Yes,
and Harry Random And that's why we're dropping the last name.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
But see, that's also why I took the right. I
thought it was.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
My wife during COVID.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
My wife is a songwriter, and she came upstairs from
a zoom right and said, I just wrote with someone
that I haven't felt this way about having the it
factor since Luke and.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I used to write, which Luke Brian she.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Wrote good directions with him?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Oh really?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah it was a billy so yeah, so she's she
wrote like, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Was right AROUNDO directions.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
So she uh, she was like, this guy has got it.
She goes, I want to write with him again. I
was like awesome. So she comes back to me a
couple months later and says, would you mind, And I've
got three or four artists she's done this with where
she's like, would you talk to him and just give
them what you think they should do? Because you know,
we all know those artists that show up every year
with a new demo and they go, what do I

(57:12):
need to do now? And you tell them what to do,
and then they come to you a year later and
ask the same question, and it's like, we haven't done
anything we suggested. And so I talked to him and
I gave him like I mean, he was kind of
all over the place, and I was like, look, Styles,
here's the deal. You need to do this, this, this,
this and this. And the next morning I get a
call and he's like, okay, I did all that last night.
I was up till five thirty and then he we

(57:35):
just kept talking and eventually he goes, I need you
to manage me, and I was like, I don't know
how to manage. So I called Keith Gale, I called
Clarence Spalding, and I called Enzo. I called every manager
I knew, and every one of them are like, you
can do this, Go do it. We'll help you. If
you need any help, you just call. And I was like, okay.
So I went back and said I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Try it, and so spell his name.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Styles, I'm from Alabama. You're asking me to spell yes,
that's why did the paper writing that come through.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
You're not supposed to ask him to spell anything anything. Education.
That's part of the deal. S T. Y l e Yes.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
The last name is weird though it's h a u
r y.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
So it's just styles And how long have you been doing that?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
About two years?

Speaker 3 (58:16):
And he's a songwriter as an artist too.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah, he wrote country on Luke Bryant. But he's got
two Tim grawl holds right now. A Blake Shelton hold,
a John Party hold. We feel he's about to pop
and we haven't.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
That's all the writing, the published, yeah, but what about
the singing.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Well, he's got a new album dropping real soon and
we're doing a co venture with someone that we haven't
announced it yet, but you're very good friends with the
person's company.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I'll say that styles p. He's a rapper s t
y l e Yes.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
So he did lose the last name.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
We're working on that right now. That's and it's completely
screwed up the distro. So that's the media been in
the past two days.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
And what's it? Styles? What again?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
S h a u r y h.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
Hey, he's a big hunter.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
That's Oh that is not what I thought he would
look like tough. I just had like British.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
We have visions of him, you know, be it selling
out like Morgan walling in two years from now. I
mean we've built to that point to where like everybody's
going this is he's about to pop. And I told
my wife, I said, we will live within two miles
of his house because when armageddon comes, he'll feed us.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
He is a real hunter. I mean he does it all.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
He just got the state record for killing the largest
moose in Maine with a bow and arrow or a
crossbow or something.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Yeah, he's a man's man.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
He sounds like a whim to me. I don't hey,
I'd hire someone to do that. He was in the background,
by the way, he sus Tony's.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Tony's attorney hits me up later, Hey, you were playing music.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
On the podcast.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Well how about like I've really enjoyed this and I'm
super happy you guys said yes, because I just I
just ind a message over its like, do you guys
want to come over and talk?

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I hope your fill in guys when you get ditched on,
you just say, hey, come back over here and tell
stupid stories.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Well, I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
We should in three months or so come do this again,
and let's just then.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
I also can tell you a menu here's here are
twenty stories I have. I think the ones you like
that most of them will.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Do we should do something like that. And also, you know,
I also see it. I don't have to lead the
whole time, which I'm used to doing, which also feels good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
You want us to come interview you, No, no, Barbara Walter,
Now we will crush you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
But I think let's let's do it again like three
months or so, if you guys are cool. Because I
really enjoyed this. It's also fun to just kind of
sit back and feel like you're not having.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
To there's no pressure here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Wait. And because it's as you know, if I ever
do one, and I do this every week, one I
want with somebody. It's just us two. It's exhausting and
the best way. I have to listen so intently because
I'm usually asking a question based on what they just said.
I don't really have a list of questions. I do
have the knowledge, hopefully, like I've read enough and understand enough.
But it gets to be pretty exhausting, like focusing so hard.

(01:00:59):
It's like going on a road trip where you think,
you know, I'm not that I shouldn't be that tired.
All I did was dry for seven hours. But you're subconscious,
and even your conscious times has to constantly be scanning, looking, watching.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
And that's one of the things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Another thing I loved about our career together is we
knew in those moments and those.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Kind of interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I usually, I mean, I'm the straight guy, so I
would ask the questions that need to be asked, but
he's always.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
There to take that levity, and you know, and then
we'd go off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
But you knew you had somebody else paying attention, and
I knew I was paying attention because he often would
be doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
To your point though, about having to scan and constantly,
you also in a split second have to go that
joke's too obvious, that questions too stupid. That's you have
to filter everything and know to make yourself elevate above
everyone else that does interviews.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
You do that bon No, I don't know. I usually
let's to go under it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
You know, I want to get to the other side,
and I'm happy to go under the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
That same market manager were talking about used to give
us notes like you know you you missed an obvious joke,
and it would.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Be no, no, we didn't miss it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
No. The first thing we thought of, and we were like,
if he can think of it, anybody think of anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Wow, your TikTok is uh at Tony and Tony christ Show. Okay, yeah,
follow that, thank you? Check out styles?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Oh yeah, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
No, yeah, no, for sure styles. How do you say it?
Harry Howary?

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Just styles?

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
They're getting read?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Hold on, I hear you. But this is why I
say that because right now if you just yeah, I
doesn't pop up to stream. So h A U r
y but soon forget that. But right now, like the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
And throw one in for my wife while we're doing it.
Rachel Thibodeaux music.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Okay, thou, why do you always have people with weird spellings?
We get?

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
This is what I do Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Uxor yeah, like t h I b i o U
x x X there's no X.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Really, she's from Minnesota, X from Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Give it a loss of that spell MV.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
So if I were spelling it out my own t
I B, it's not t t h i b okay,
that's worse than the AX. I would never have gotten there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
T h I b oh b e au you can't spell.
I'm just say my wife would have busted through this
door in about two seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
The name is Risk and Easy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Well, thank you guys, really appreciating. Been super fun for me. Eddie.
Eddie's only here, if I'm being honest with you. Eddie
is my best friend and we do the show together
and we we play music together, comedy music bus. Yeah. Well,
he was only over here because he wanted my printer
to pronounce it's it's honestly, nothing's like I want to
go be a part of this interview. He was like, hey,
can I use the printer for eBay because I have

(01:03:49):
one of those heat printers. And I was like, yeah,
we're doing it. So he just sits down and hops in.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
My kids.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
My kids sell sports cards, so like I'm going to
printed thing out and he's like, hey, I'm doing a podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Yeah sure, I'm leading. You guys are awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
I love the story.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Thank you, and then we'll see you guys. So thanks guys,
thank you for pleasure

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.

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