August 20, 2024 • 55 mins
In this episode of The Bobbycast, Bobby Bones shares the Top 10 controversial country songs. These songs made headlines for discussing sensitive social subjects, and while some became anthems, others caused drama with the artists fan base... Plus, Bobby talks to TikTok creator and Investigative Journalist Ethan Frice (@Ethanfrice). He discusses why he thinks he recently got banned and shares some of his biggest internet conspiracy theories. He also explains how some of his content has caused people to show up at his house and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I had a questionable visit to my house and somebody
told me to just cool my jets, which that prompted
me moving. That was pretty scary.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
But welcome to episode four sixty six of the Bobbycast
of First, Eddie and I are going to talk about
the top ten most controversial songs in country music. We'll
also share Bobbycast clips from artists that we've had on
talking about these controversies, so you'll hear from Riba and
Martina and more. So it's a really cool topic, or
(00:34):
it was fun for Eddie and I to do, and
then we bring in some of the people actually talking
about it. We'll also talk to Ethan Fries. Now. The
thing with Ethan is I found him on TikTok. He
is not an artist. He does investigative journalism and I
would just watch him talk for three four minutes at
a time. His stories are mind blowing. He talks conspiracies.
(00:56):
You know, I like aliens. He talks aliens. He talked
CIA FBI, and I don't feel like he's like crazy
conspiracy what he is and I think he talks about this.
He's on the spectrum a little bit, and he goes
and reads every all these redacted files as the government
releases and just reads all the data an insane amount
of research just because he's like, I can't stop reading them,
(01:19):
and so it's not like he just goes, I'm gonna
come up with something crazy. He reads all of this.
We talk about it here. You can follow him on
TikTok at Ethan Frice. His old TikTok was taken down
and never came back. It never came back, so he
is up now as at Ethan Fries. We just want
to say, free Ethan. Yeah, free freaking Ethan is what
(01:40):
we say. Here we go. We hope you liked this episode.
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All Right, Eddie and I are here to talk about
the ten most controversial songs in country music, and this
is from your Barker and I thought we'd go through
(02:01):
it because we have in these episodes of The Bobbycast,
some of the artists have actually talked about these songs. Okay,
so we actually have clips with them and we can
start at number ten and I'll just say the song
to you and tell me what you think it's about
or why it would be controversial. Okay, because sometimes it
completely missed me that there was a message on some
of these songs. Try that in the small towns did
(02:21):
on this list? I'm not it's gotta be no, because
it's not that song wasn't controversial about the message. It
was people going, hey, I don't think you realize it,
but the message that you're putting out this is these
songs actually meant and yeah, okay, got it was created
and it pushed boundaries, challenged culture, et cetera. Okay, so
(02:46):
it was created with the idea of when people hear
this song, if they understand what it's really about, it's
probably going to create a little a little bubble, little conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
This is tough for me because I didn't really listen
to music a lot like trying to get in the
message me either.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I was like, that's a chain. I don't even know lyrics.
I know melodies and I know some lyrics. But number
ten is Independence Day from Martina McBride. Oh yeah, fourth
of July, and most people a lot of people play there.
On fourth of July, you'll hear radio stations play Independence
Day and fourth of July. That's not what it's about.
It's about domestic violence. No way. I thought you were kidding. No,
(03:21):
I didn't know that. I had no idea because it's
like let freedom ring. It's about exploring the impact of
domestic violence and alcoholism. Some of the lyrics were thought
to be extremely too heavy because there was like a
patriotic ish feel, but it really wasn't about that. Martina
was in episode three eighty eight of The Bobby Cast.
She talked about how Independence Day was never a number
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one because some people, enough people in radio knew what
it was about, and they had a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know, we had a lot of resistance at radio
with that song because the subject matter. And I think
it was really because she burned the house down, you know,
it was like she was taking she took action that
just didn't sit very.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well with a lot of radio people.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Bizarre and one guy said to me that video like,
if I'm sitting with my daughter and that video comes on,
then I have to talk to her and explain things.
And I'm like, yeah, dude, that's maybe not a bad idea.
So it was interesting. It's just a different time.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, that's so, that's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But you know what, because of that, she opened doors
for other women to write songs about going a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Is going a little crazy because is it about standing
up for him? It is?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But I guess you know, everyone interpreted that is like, oh,
she burned the house and now she got a little crazy. Well, hey,
Carrie like took a bat and beat up the Cadillac,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What I mean? Yes, And that's okay because he cheated
and it's gonna beat Yeah. Different though, dude, I never did.
But in Independence Day, like, no, he heard her absolutely okay.
So I didn't realize we talked about this before that
Rage against the Machine was actually like a fight against
the government, rage against the government. And to you, you'd
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always known that. I'd never known that I'd do that.
I never put it together.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I was probably seventeen, and I yeah, I get clicked.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And this here, it's funny that you never put that
together because I never heard that part of the song.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
All I remember was let freedom ring and Independence Day,
like it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Man. Fourth of July Number nine is Okie from Muskogee. Okay,
I'm proud to be in Okie from Muskoge from Merle Haggard.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And we don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee, and I am
in Muskogee a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Actually that's crazy now, like a lot. My father in
law one of his uh practices in Muskogee, he's an
eye doctor. So you get different answers from folks about
it how it changed, even with Merle Haggard giving the answer,
because at first when they wrote the song, it was
a hit. And what do you think Okie from Muskoge's about?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So it has to be like protesting against the war.
So I'm thinking, like, you know, like we're not hippies
here in Muskogee, like we defend our country here, so
protesting the Vietnam I'm thinking before the war. No, No,
like he's saying, like, you know, we're not like weed smokers,
we're not hippies, we don't wear flowers.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Those are the protesters.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Those are the protesters that we know in America is
like no fighting, just make love, nope, peace.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So then you're protesting the protesters, which you would be
fighting for the war.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is defending your country, right,
Like that's kind of like the fight. Okay, country boy
defending his country. It's okay to go fight. We're defending
our country where the.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Hippies are like, no, man, let's not go fight, Let's
just make love. So initially he said it was in
supportive American service members during the Vietnam War because I'm
proud to be an okie from Suskogie, Middle America. Dude
doing it up. Then later he started to admit what
the song was really about, that it was kind of
making fun of small town people. Oh, it was like
(06:52):
a sanitized version of it was satire about small town America. Oh,
so he laid admitted that he was kind of making
fun of it. Yeah. And I think in the documentary
that I watched on Country Music that was like five
hundred hours long, remeber that one can bur. I think
he talks about that in that. Wow. I didn't know that.
So it was in both ways a bit controversial because
(07:14):
it was freaking Merle Haggard and we're normal. He's also
not from Oklahoma. But and I think he was just
driving through what I remember the story being, remember, not
written in front of me. Is that he was driving
through it and he's like, what the heck would you ever
do in this town Muscogey, Oklahoma? Or around it? And
so it was kind of a song making fun of
towns like that. But then it became a hit and
(07:36):
it was like, oh crap, no, it's for America. And
then he later admitted it really wasn't. So that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Can you imagine all the country, small town people singing
it off.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They found that out? Yeah, man, that's number nine, number eight,
You've Never Been This Far Before? From Conway Twitty. I
don't know that one. I don't either, it says. The
lyrics to the song probably wouldn't pass muster today. It's
about getting intimate with a young woman who's still a
virgin oh boy, which earned the song of band from
many radio stations. After its original release in nineteen seventy three,
(08:07):
it still became a number one hit. You've Never Been
This Far Before was a number one hit. There are
creepy songs from the sixties and seventies, they just weren't
creepy then. But she's seventeen, she was just seventeen. There's
that one too, or she's fifteen, She's mine. How about
young Girl get Out of My Mind?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, like shameless?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I know, because there it wasn't shamed. I mean, was it.
It's just it wasn't shamed. I mean they were thinking
about sixteen year old when they were like twenty three.
I mean Elvis, you know, married one. Yeah, so that's
weird to sing about if you're an adult man. How
(08:51):
but do you know how old he was? I'm sure
he had to be old. Do you write it the lyrics? Yeah?
About getting it? I don't know. It doesn't matter, Okay, yoh,
it does matter though, because I doesn't matter if you're
singing and recording it. It doesn't matter who wrote it.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
But do people even think did they even think about
that back then? Like, you know what, it's gonna make
me look bad because I'm fifty years old and I'm
singing about this when maybe a twenty year old wrote
it about you know, if.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You're still singing it, you have to think about that.
But my point is you didn't have to think about
it because it wasn't culturally inappropriate, because there were a
lot of songs that were like that. It's crazy he
wrote it as a soul songwriter. Oh no, Hey, himself
kill blame it on a buddy in the room with
an idea. Oh no, it wasn't my line. Oh it's
(09:36):
my son. My son told me about the idea. That sucks.
But again, there are a lot of if you type in,
and I have my phone, so I'm just going to
type in creepiest lyrics about being creepy young girls pop songs. Good,
(10:01):
that's good to be detailed like that. Yeah, I need
to do more by that. There's a lot more creepy
songs out there. Okay, so pop songs. Let's see what
this is. Mike, tell me what you find. I'm looking
at a different thing here, but here is and I'm
searching this. I feel like I'm gonna get bad, like
somebody's gonna kick in the door. I mean, you just
got a red flag of the FBI. We watch this
(10:24):
guy's phone real quick. There are creepy lyrics and they
have every breath you take. But it's a different kind
of creepy. It's not young. That's like a stalker. There's
pumped up kicks. Not it, that's a shooting song? Oh
is it? Yeah? That's the we sing that one pumped
up kicks. You better run better run faster than my bullet.
Oh man. Yeah, okay, And I don't think a lot
(10:45):
of people knew what that was about. Brown Sugar is creepy,
but not young girl Stones gold Coast slave ship bound
for cotton fields, sold in a market down in New Orleans.
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing all right. Hear him
whip the women around at midnight. That's part of the
lyric there, brown Sugar Brown. Yeah, I had no idea
(11:05):
that's what that song was about. Brown Sugar, What about
you or my sunshine? Listen to this. I'll always love
you and make you happy if you will only say
the same. But if you leave me and love another,
you'll regret it all someday. It's like that first two
threatening Good thing. We didn't do that. I clicked into
the wrong. Creepy dude, what's crazy about? I love you?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You are my sunshine? Like I'm sure did parents sing
that to their kids all the time. I'll send you
this list.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I don't recognize any of these songs, but maybe you do.
Here is the Beatles Run for your Life. Okay, you
have a list creepy rock songs about younger. I know
it's weird to even search about young girls that you're
singing along to without realizing. Okay, straightcat blues of that one. Right,
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good morning, little school girl. It doesn't say who the
artist is though, good one of those school now, Oh
my gosh, vehicle. Don't know that one. My Sharona, my
mam ma Sarona, never gonna stop. Give it up. Such
a dirty mind, always get it up for the touch
of the younger kind.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh my goodness, that's my Sharona. Yeah, dude, how crazy
is that We've sang my Sharona a thousand times and
never knew that.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
How about this one? Girl, You'll be a woman soon?
Oh yeah, is that Neil Dimon? I think so you'll
be old woman? Please come take my hand. Girl, you'll
be a woman soon. Say for sure. He didn't write
that one. The eighteen year old did. Oh let's see
young girl. Yeah, that's young girl. Keeps it. There's a
(12:40):
diferente called younger. There's more than one's. Here's this one
though you're sixteen. You're beautiful and your mind. You know
that one? Na man, I don't know that one. Neil
Diamond was the sole songwriter.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh my goodness, dude, at least throwing an eighteen year old.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's all alone in their basement. Don't stand so close
to me, don't stand so inside him. There's longing the
girls an open page bookmarking, she's so close. Now the
girl is half his age. Okay, that's but that could
be he's sixty. He could be sixty. And he's like, hey, stop, okay,
how about walk about? Walk this way, walk this way,
aerosmith run him. See schoolgirl sweetye with a classy kind
(13:17):
of sassy little skirts climbing away up the knee. There
were three young ladies in the school gym locker. When
I noticed they was looking at me.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
The thing is who is he a student? That's what
I'm wondering, Like, is he he's got to be the student?
Because if he's a teacher, like or if he's just
a dude that has gone on campus illegally snuck on campus.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I saw her standing there. She was seven, she was
just seventeen, if you know what I mean, No, dude,
we don't know what you mean. We don't know, Paul
to be like if the raging idiots did when you
grew up instead of when I grew up. Oh no,
when you grow up. Oh no, that's disgusting. Okay, let's
(13:58):
move on that up. That's good. A fancy from Reba? Yeah,
because it was yeah and Riba did not write the song.
It was originally recorded by Bobby Gentry. It was released
in nineteen seventy massive success. Reba released it again in
ninety one. They say a classic ode about a woman
who finds her way into the world as a sex worker.
As a kid, I did not know. I know all
(14:19):
the words. I knew as I got older, I was like, wait,
what she's dressing hers to go up? What? Yeah? And
then it got so. On episode three nineteen of The
Bobby Cast, Reba talked about how she was first told
not to do a cover of this song because of
that subject matter.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Well, when I was with Jimmy Bowen in the eighties,
he said, is there a song you want to do?
A remix song? And I said, yeah, fancy. He said, oh, woman,
you don't need to be doing that. That's about a prostitute.
I said, I'm totally aware of that. It was like, Nope,
you can't do that. And so when I went with
Tony Brown in nineteen ninety, he said, would you like
to do a song again, and I said, fancy he's
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Oh my gosh, that's my favorite song.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So we did it Tony to be that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's a really good song. It's like you read my mind.
I didn't want to do that it's a great song,
but it really is. It is a great song. Number
six Girl Crushed from a little big Town. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But was it ever about lesbian love? It's about a
girl crush. Yeah, okay, I mean that's yeah, Okay. That's
why it was kind of controversy because I remember at
the time people were just like, well, no, I mean
it could just be like I have a just crush
on a girl, not in a loving way, but like, but.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What does that even mean? A crush on a girl
that's you. You don't have to be a lesbian, but
have a girl crush is like that in the middle ground. Yeah,
and you got to think I have a crush on you, dude,
And I'm not trying to ever say that I got
a boy crush. And then people will be like, oh,
what you're saying? What what am I saying? Tell me,
I know what you're saying. You're staring me deep in
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my eyes. So people saw it as encouraging homosexuality. That
was a bit of part of this story too, because
that was the first one to play it. But it
was bigger than just that because a little bitdown had
to deal with it. And so here's episode sixty six.
Karen Fairchild, a little Bigdown, talked about how they handled
(16:12):
the backlash.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
I've had people in the business stop me and go man,
that was a good one. Y'all did like, would you
think that we would actually do that a couple of
weeks before, trying to ward off some of the negativity
of just like moms that didn't think they wanted their
children to hear I want to taste her lips in
the morning on country radio and they were calling into complain,
and so we were getting on there saying, you know, oh,
(16:36):
it's a song about jealousy and having to try to
like get the stations to play it that we're thinking
about dropping it because of the negative calls.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So I want to taste your lips and come on,
that's not.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
That's yeah, yeah, you know that definitely crosses that line.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's great, you want to cross it, great, I have
no problem with the line. I'm just saying that that
makes it a little different. I forgot that line too.
I would have used that when I was trying to
counterpoint Garth Brooks We Shall be Free? Oh yeah, big time,
they say is most controversial song in the catalog. Why
I mean we Shall Be Free? Was you're a big
Garth guy too.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I am a big Garth guy. But I mean I
was young when We Shall Be Free came out. But
I think I even then I understood that it was,
you know, just freeing people from not how to word this,
I mean, is it like I think it was racism.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Part yeah, part of right.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Absolutely, that was a big part of it, just like
you know, so you're all equal.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yep. So that's exactly what it was. So it's, by
the way, one of his only songs to ever not
even land in the top ten because stations wouldn't play it.
That's crazy. But the song and the video imagines a
world where there's no racism, to homophobia, no violence, but
stations wouldn't play it.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I believe that's the video, the super Bowl video.
That's it where he refused to go on to sing
the national anthemunless they play the super Bowl. I mean,
that's how you do it. And then they have a
new rule now they always have a backup, a backup
the performer. Yeah, just because he was like he fond
job there. Yeah, bon Jovi's in the crowd. They were
gonna go ask bon Jovi to do it, but Garth
was like, I'm not going to sing it unless you
play the video like last minute, and they did. They played,
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they played the video. Goodbye Earl the Chicks.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's a great one. They killed Earl Man because he
was a jerk. It's like domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, murder. People got upset about that because there was
such I mean violence, but there's I mean, if dudes
were singing this song, I don't think they had looked
at it a second. Probably not.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think the song's great, Like I mean, it's it's
a storyline anyway, you know, it's reality, but it's a
storyline of something that happens all the time. You know,
somebody beating up his girl for his girlfriend or wife,
and then her not knowing who to go to, she
gets her best girl. She's like, I'll fly in.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
The heck. I thought us was like, let's bay all right,
killed Okay. I knew Earl he was a good guy.
They went a little too full. I've been listening too
long about you talking about those black guys. What I
thought you was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So I'm like, really this song too.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Even with the domestic violence message to me, it really
also highlights like the power of like really close friends. Yeah,
I'll show up for you and do whatever you need
because you're in a really like not great situation. Yeah,
they got your back. And what it like a just
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a powerful, powerful song.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Like songs can just be like, ah, I'm just listen
for fun or whatever, but you listen to this one
with like.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Wow or it's just funny. You can pick out of
the way because I think when I first heard it
was just like good eur I had to die and
it's just funny, goofy. But you can also listen to
it in the way of oh wow, I hear somebody's
got something's back and they kind and beating her because
it's like shit black eyes. But then I don't remember
the exact lyric, but it's like Wanda so got a
fly overnight fly what little red eye whatever it was,
(20:01):
It's like she's got on a freaking plane. It came
to get from Atlanta. Yeah, that's a good one. Casey
muskives follow your.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Arrow of course, homosexuality, yeah, LBG LGBTQ plus or don't
That's that's what I loved about that song, like do this,
do this or don't.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We When we first started, we had her coming aster
play that song she played on our show. I remember
she got a little people were low upset at me,
but sure not that she's not compared to her because
she had to deal with it. But I think she
also was happy that she got to deal with it
because she was putting out a message that she consistently
has yeah, and that she believed in.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
She came in and we didn't have a green room then,
so like any guests that came to the studio would
sit in your office and sometimes it's sitting there for
thirty minutes waiting for, you know, their time to go
on the air or whatever. And you had a dry
erase board on the wall it's not there anymore, and
you had some markers there and she she did a
little drawing a follow your arrow and it was like
as an arrow, I think going through to a heart,
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and then she'd like little birds on top of it
and it said follow your era, like save that, like
busted it out and saved it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We left it up there forever.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean we must have had it out there for
a year or so, and then we eventually just got
rid of it.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That had been cool to keep, like a Banksy but
a Muscraves. Yeah, yeah, where is it? No? He got
wiped away board board though, I don't know. I hated
it as gross. It's dirty, made their own gross, not
that the rest of the stuff doesn't, but this one
did not know temigral red ragtop, my red rag top.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
No a convertible like it's just drive. I've always thought
that the song was about just driving the open road
with the red rag top.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
One of the lyrics to the two thousand and two
song tells the story of young woman that chooses to
have an abortion without regrets. Some radio stations refused to
play the song. I didn't again, I don't hear lyrics. Yeah,
I didn't know that at all. And then number one
is the pill from the red len don't know pill
controversial nineteen seventy five of birth control, really the abortion bill,
(22:02):
but birth control. So that's what it was about, and
radio stations didn't play it. It became a crossover hit though,
because it became such a newsworthy song. Who was that
Lorettah Yeah yeah, Billboard Hot one hundred Singles chart. So
those are ten very controversial songs, you remember, Brick ben Folds. Yeah,
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now we're getting into like pop.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's probably a thousand lists
of a thousand controvers songs.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, but Brick, I remember not thinking about anything after Christmas.
No one's here to find us out. Jeremy is about suicide. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Jeremy was a real storyl jam of a kid who
shot himself in front of a class, and Jeremy was
this and it wasn't it was inspired by like a
real event that happened in Dallas, but he read in
the paper. It wasn't a guy named Jeremy or anything.
It was just a kid that shot himself in front
of the class. But then he created the story of
you know, Jeremy not being loved or having it getting
(22:59):
attention from anyone, and then finally shooting him inf front
of everyone's like, oh Jeremy spoken class.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
To me, spooking. Yeah, yeah, that's tough, dude. They were,
yeah tough. Yeah. When you know the stories like that
and you hear the song again. If you've heard it
ten thousand times, it kind of hits new for the
first time.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, daughter, you were daughter. Don't call me daughters
like sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I didn't know that. Again, it's like one of those
where so what does that mean? They don't call me daughter?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Do you know it's it's a girl telling her stepdad,
don't call me daughter because you sexually abused me.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I didn't know. Sometimes I sing it with a smile.
I didn't know that. I was like, don't call me daughter.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Gotta be careful. Those programs know that. That's what that was.
Pro dam songs like It's just more and more you
go into. I'm like, wow, this is deep, this.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
This is dark. I also am pledging here to never
listen to she was seventeen, if you know what I mean. Bro, Yeah, Paul,
what do you mean, John? We don't like it anymore?
What do you talk about? All Right? That is the article.
Thanks to Yard Barker for putting that out, and you know,
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we elaborated it on a bit and had some clips
that kind of went along with it. But I just
talk about some of those songs and some that I
didn't even know that's what the meaning was. But yeah,
I appreciate you guys listening.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Hank Ty the Bobby Cast. We'll be right back and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Hey, Ethan. I love what you do. Man. First of all,
I'm a fan, and I know I reached out to
you on TikTok and it was like, because you cover
so many things, you were definitely an investigative journalist and
I think that that what you're doing, you do it
in a very interesting way. And I also like it
when you go and then we'll do the because we're
already recording, but I like when you go, all right,
I'm gonna really get into this, but let me just
(24:49):
do it up front for everybody who's gonna flip the screen,
tell you what we're about to do. Like, I love
how you take either the news or like confidential documents
that have been dropped and you explain them to Moron's me.
So first, I am a fan. That's why I'm bringing
you on. So thank you for being here today.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, thank you so much, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So, something that just happened. I don't know, is your
account down, like your your main account.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, it got permanently banned. I lost one hundred and
twenty thousand followers. It's a bummer, but you know, you
start over a lot in life, so I'm not going
to let it hurt me too bad.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Permanently banned, not temporarily. Somebody flagged something, was it? Because well,
I'll ask you why.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So the whole Trump situation that happened. One of my
followers was in person at the rally, and he sent
me a video of what had happened, and it just
showed that everybody was more aware of what was going
to happen than what it seemed like like. There was
a couple of minutes that went by people that were
fully aware that there was a shooter, telling the Secret Service,
(25:52):
and I just posted the video and I said, hey,
this is pretty weird, and that that was grounds for
taking my whole account. Why do you so less talking
about politics?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Why do you think you were banned? In your opinion,
why do you think the account was banned?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You know, I couldn't say for sure. I would like
to take it as a journalism award for I got
a little too close to something maybe, but there's there's
no concrete way to know for sure. The timing was
suspicious with the whole Trump thing and getting taken down,
and I think with politics images important, especially around election time,
so if there is a crackdown period, it would probably be.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now do you hear from people that you talk about
in these stories, anybody reach out and say, hey, dude,
like we're going to sue you, or we're going to
like punch in the face, anything like that.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I've definitely had some very question I had a questionable
visit to my house and somebody told me to just
cool my jets, which that prompted me moving. That was
pretty scary. But aside from that, nothing, nothing too crazy.
I get a lot of you know, threatening messages every day,
but there's no telling who it's coming from. Usually just
(27:01):
people will mention a video I made, usually about Diddy,
saying you know you're pushing some sort of agenda. You
can't post this. Things will happen to you and then
nothing ever comes of it. But it can be a
little frightening.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Somebody came to your house.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, someone did. I moved out of California because of that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And did they knock on the door, How did you
have a conversation with them, and did you think it
was just somebody like a solicitor or something.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was my first thought. I was expecting it to be,
you know, the neighborhood vacuum salesman or a neighbor and
they just they told me quite frankly. I opened the
door and they just said, you know, your videos online
are doing nobody any good and you need to cool
your jets with the stuff you're talking about right now.
And they walked off. And that was pretty uh. I mean,
that was weird. It wasn't something to call home about,
(27:52):
but it was. It was scary for me. I lived alone,
so it was it was uncomfortable for sure, but not
really the kind of thing I would let stop me.
And all that infos you know, public on the internet.
So what am I going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Why do this? Why are you pursuing this career, this
path of being the investigative journalist that you are.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So I have autism, not like super Bad or anything,
but it's always been an interest of mine reading through
these documents and just kind of learning what other people
don't know. My dad and I when I used to
live there, we'd hot up every night and talk about aliens.
And I started reading the Alien files, the CIA dropped
and I found so much interesting stuff. When I was fifteen,
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I found a file that was talking about the Roswell
crash and it confirmed that it actually happened. It was
on the FBI's website. It had never been covered by
mainstream journalism, no corporate media. So that prompted this whole
spark of reading through these and over the years, I've
read probably thousands of these files, and after a while,
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I just decided, you know, why isn't this on the internet.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Do you feel like they are slow rolling information about
UFOs or aliens or whatever UTA or whatever letters they're
using now, And why would the FBI put it on
their website as a document if they didn't want us
to know about it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You know, that's one of my biggest questions. I think
they've got to be slow rolling something out, almost getting
us used to it. And there's no telling for sure,
but the fact that you have all of this stuff
on you know, the CIA website or the FBI National Archives,
and it's never been covered by mainstream journalism anywhere, No
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Fox News, no NBC. It's mind blowing because it's straight
from the dot guv website. And I've found documents talking
about people doing stuff like in the show Stranger things,
moving things with their mind, burning people by touching, and
it's you're reading this like it's a science fiction novel
when you have to look back and go like, this
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is a you know, it's paperwork approving more funding because
it works, and it makes me wonder was it fake
for the Soviets to try to trick them out or
is this something that we actually are doing and have
access to.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Do you feel like they're putting it out and because
it is in such a documented, boring, contractual looking piece
of information that people won't read it because it just
is not appealing.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Probably, but that goes back to your point of why
is it even there? That's kind of one of the
things that made it so interesting for me is there's
no concrete way to know, but all of this information's there,
and when you really dig into it, half of these
crazy things you read about there's more evidence going for
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it than against it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So you believe there are things that aren't us on
a planet that is not this planet.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's likely. It's really likely. I mean looking at how
big space is, for example, if you were to look
at how much space we've explored in comparison to the ocean,
it would be like us going and dipping a glass
in the water and saying, look at there's no fission here.
We must be alone. The amount of space we've actually
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pioneered is next to nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I agree with you. I'm just asking you without in
a non leading way, to see how you feel, because
I agree we know nothing. We know very little. Our
full capacity of what we know is only measured by itself,
meaning we have no idea what we don't know. And
even the ocean, which is a great analogy and the
cup of water, like the ocean, what five percent of
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its map to six percent? We don't even know what's
in the ocean, much less what is in space. And
I've read certain things. Do you feel like the ocean
end space? Both could be the conduit too, or either
it could be the conduit to get whatever needs to
be here here or Antarctica, Like there are those files
too that Antarctica is some sort of I hate to
use the word portal, but I watch movies and that's
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what they say portal. Like, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's really fishy? Why aren't we allowed to go to Antarctica.
I mean, we have people that move to Alaska on purpose.
You'd think there would be some kind of crowd that
would enjoy you know, unless you're a National geographic voyage,
you're not making it over there, and that's weird. But
I definitely agree with you. There's there's got to be
some conduit for this and reading into those UAP files more,
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they'll redact a lot of stuff. Nowadays it's edited like
a black image over the text so you can't read it.
But the really old ones they use a sharpiet and
sometimes they don't get the words perfectly. And I have
found extra dimensional sharpied out so many times. It makes
you wonder are they from space or is it a
whole dimensional thing? Because if it's dimensional, they could be
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you know, right here, right now, just not it's not
our Earth.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And how I would explain dimensional to people because they'll
look at me funny, and I don't have a great
explanation because I am not in science. However, I would say,
you know, with the television changed channels, and there's a
frequency that allows this channel and you can see this,
there's a slightly different frequency. You push the button it
allows you to see this in human form that we are,
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this is a certain frequency we're not able to see
the other frequencies, just like for watching one channel, we
can't see the other channel, even though it's in the
exact same place. Like that is my very rudimental, rudimental
analogy of how possibly we're not even able to see
the beams that the cell phone that we can't There's
so much around us that we can't see, even that
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animals can see, and their cones in their eyes are different.
And so for us to think that we can see
and know everything, but also for you to look into
all these files and find words have been blacked out,
why would they not go and black them out with
like like the newer version of redacting files and just
leave the sharp eied versions up.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It makes you wonder, and it makes me think that
they didn't plan on the Internet being as big and
popular as it is. But that was that was a
very good way to explain the dimensions. It's like, if
if we're in a TV, we can go up, down, left,
and right on the screen, that's two dimensional. A verdimensional
would be us, you know, moving all around up, down, left, right,
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anywhere the ground doesn't stop you and then taking that further,
you need to look at it like an onion. There
could be something past the three D, which would be
the fourth and we can't perceive that, so we can't
explain it. But that's like we if the theory is correct,
you know where the aliens or whatever they are would be.
So us being three dimensional, we could say you had
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a two dimensional ant hill if you took water and
poured it all over their ant hill. To them, it's
like a biblical flood. They can't even perceive our existence.
Water just appeared out of nowhere. So for aliens being
say a dimension above us, they perceive everything we do,
but we wouldn't even know they're there.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And I know this whole thing wasn't about aliens, but
I'm so intrigued by just even the term alien is
not probably what you and I would use, but I
think most people would associate that word with what we're
talking about, so we could continue to define it as that.
But what do you think is the one piece of
evidence that you have seen in all of these files
that proves to you mostly that we're probably not the
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only things that exist. What do you think has been
redacted or what have you seen you talk about Roswell, like,
what have you seen where you're like, man, if I
had to bring one piece of evidence into play, it
be this easily.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
The pyramids and the construction of them. So they're ancient
compared to the Egypt that we know today, and our
indigenous populations carved the stuff on stone. But we have
highways of pyramids across the earth. And aside from that,
they're all constructed exactly the same. Two of the Great
Pyramids coordinates line up exactly to the speed of light.
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They're all directly under stars and within half a degree
of true north. Let alone the precision of actual building
or moving these multi ton blocks around. You'll see on
a lot of hieroglyphs they have a frequency table. So
if you were to put sand on a table and
play certain frequency, the sand will reorganize and make patterns.
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Now they would put these patterns on hieroglyphics along with
guy lifting up something very heavy with one arm way
above his head, and I think that symbolizes seismatic technology
or matching the frequency of an object to lighten it.
If you have a didgerido, you can go pick up
solo cups with it. Just by playing the right note,
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it'll lift the solo cup off the ground and you
can walk around with it. And I think that the
biggest evidence we have of extra life on Earth would
be the construction of the Pyramids and how advanced they
were into this technology of frequencies, the same stuff Tesla
was obsessed with, yet we didn't even have stone tools.
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I mean, it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Your Amelia Earhart content I was enamored by, and I've
always been curious and even I would say interested in
what has happened. But watching what you pulled from, I
don't know if it's a CIA or FBI website. Pribace
CIA is international at CIA.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, it was CIA, but a lot of it came
from Naval Intelligence because that disappearance happened about ten years
before the CIA was formed JAZZ so they have better
record keeping, but most of the good stuff was old
Navy intelligence website.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
So after reading and most audience probably hasn't seen, what
yet to say about it? What do you think happened
to Amelia Earhart and why it.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Seems really plausible she got captured by the Japanese, whether
she crashed or didn't. There's a file basically a case
officer is talking about a message in a bottle that
was found with a lock of hair. Now what's interesting
is this is from nineteen thirty nine and they're talking
about that the DNA tested the hair, which, if you
do a quick google, didn't come out until the eighties,
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so they had that technology before, which is really odd
to me. But this case officer goes to the island
to investigate, and everybody's very welcoming, very nice, and he
started asking about the boat it's called the Nile Atoll
that she was allegedly a prisoner on, and they tortured
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and interrogated him for like two days before letting him go.
And that's odd. You know, the government was friendly, the
citizens were friendly. He asked a question about a boat,
and you know, they backed his head and took him
off to some prisons. It raises some flags and then
you find stuff about, you know, letters from congressmen asking
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intelligence was she a spy? But the good one I
uncovered was she wrote to the president asking for some
details about her top secret world flight. And this was
about two years before she had announced the flight, so
they could have been talking about the plans and the
whole flight was a secret for the time being, or
there was an ulterior motive with the actual flight, but
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it's it's fishy. And then them confirming the DNA tested
it pretty much proves the theory. The only missing pieces.
Did they really have that technology in the forties or
what's the deal there?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do you feel like she was a spy?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It seems plausible. And that's one thing the CIA does
is they're famous for recruiting people that already have covers.
I mean, if you look into some of these intelligence
people or even people that have been suspected of, you know,
being a spy, a lot of them are Microsoft executive
or sometimes actors, people that are constantly traveling over world
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orders to the Middle East or wherever is a point
of interest. Because they already have a cover, they can
get picked up. The CIA will bankroll a nice light
for them, and all they do is a little bit
of spying on their business trip. Yeah, I'd say she
probably was.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So based on the information that I've heard from you,
if I were going to draw a conclusion, and you
can tell me if your conclusion is the same, that
her flight where she went missing was planned well before
the public knew about it. It was planned for a reason.
(40:40):
She was intelligence and she ended up. And I haven't
heard you say this. Do you think that when they
if and when that they captured her, they knew she
was a spy or they found out she was a
spy and that is why they kept her.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure. I would
assume that she was probably suspected to be a spy
because she was flying over you know, Japanese airspace right
before the war. I'm sure they figured it out. We
never saw her again.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Are any pictures of like the side of her head
or anything that they are suspicious where people are like, hey,
that might be her.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
So there's one picture and it's there's no way to
know for sure. It's a picture of a Japanese dock
with that both the Nile Atoll, and there's a white
woman and a white guy. So her and her navigator
Fred both went missing, and from the back the pictures
looked like them. I went on the Japanese Internet and
tried to date the photo and I was unable to.
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But there are some articles talking about this photo and
everybody is pretty sure it was taken two years before
her flight. So it's a big Maybe there's no for
sures there and I'd hate to just say yes without
anything concrete.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I would like to talk about the Gateway process meditation
and the CIA. First. Would you do a bit of
explaining just fundamentally on what that is.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, So the Gateway process is kind of similar to
that seismic technology that we were talking about earlier, but
it's more so in frequency. They would play one frequency
in one ear one frequency in the other, so it's
two differing sounds. But what they do is they cause
the electrical impulses of each hemisphere of the brain to
sync up at exactly the same time, and it puts
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your mind in this weird state. It's famous for giving
people out of body experiences, and the CIA dumped billions
of dollars into this from about the seventies until now.
I guess they're still doing it trying to figure out
what these out of body experiences are and if they
have application for intelligence. After a lot of research and money,
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they did figure out that people are able to close
their eyes and see things when they're not there with accuracy.
That's pretty scary. They had Stanford, Yale, all of the
big universities researching this as well as their own teams,
and everybody came to the same conclusion that it works,
and nobody really understands why it works.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
To do what exactly see something far away at the
same time, see something in the future, see something in
the past.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, so it wouldn't really be past their future to
my knowledge, it would more so be location. So there's
a pretty famous one where a guy was supposed to
remote view a military base across the United States and
he was talking about some basement sub level with files
and boxes and all this stuff that didn't exist. But
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they said, hey, you're wrong, we'll call the check anyways,
and it turned out that he had remote view to
top secret sub level of the base that was on
a need to know basis, so nobody knew it was
there except for him. And it's things like that they
would use it in any way for intelligence. Hey we
heard there's hostages in Lebanon, can you check. That's a
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pretty famous case where a remote viewer confirmed there was hostages.
And that's really when it started picking up because the
intelligence community was crediting this guy for saving these people.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Have you done any meditation like this, Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I've been doing the Gateway process for probably five or
six months. One of my rich buddies in Los Angeles,
he was crediting this to his success. He said it
made his intuition as sharp as a pitchfork, and every
business decision he made was right. So he gave me
his tapes, had me try them, and I had a
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weird out of body experience. It's a hard thing to describe,
but in the best layman's terms, whether it was my
imagination or not, I had this being come up to
me and it said, my purpose in life is to
share what I've learned about all of these things, and
you know, to put my phone in front of my
face and talk about it. And you know, my account
(45:19):
blew up. I'd never posted online before, I'd never done
anything like it. I was already kind of nagged to
post about the documents because I thought it would be cool.
So it was like another layer of confirmation, and in
my account blew up. It was about two months old
and I hit one hundred thousand followers, which seems to
be pretty good. I'm new to the whole thing, but
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I don't know how easy that would be to replicate?
Speaker 2 (45:44):
So how would I listen to these tapes?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
So you can find them online for free. There's a
place called them in Row Institute. They actually offer this
as a whole package training where you go there for
a week and they'll teach you how to do this.
They're the inventors of the Gateway tapes and it's it
seems to be a pretty cool program. But if you
can't afford all the money they you can find them
for free online. You have to search a little far
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and wide, but they're on things like YouTube, Breddit. They
get taken off the internet a lot, so you just
have to look around and maybe jump sources a few
times a week because they'll get taken down and put
back up a few times a day.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And you believe that, even within yourself, you believe that
a lot of folks believe this is the key to
unlocking some part of our brain. This the Gateway process meditation,
and that is why they're still experimenting trying to figure
out why it doesn't exactly what it does.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I think so and you can it does things that
it's very hard to word. We don't have English to describe,
but on the flip side, we have physical evidence of
how it affects your brain. Buddhists a lot of people
in religion that are very heavy on meditai. They have
tons of gray matter in their brain compared to the
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normal people, and it allows them to reach these higher
states of consciousness through meditation and prevents Alzheimer's, which is
pretty odd. People that do the Gateway program for seven
days have a twenty five percent increase in gray matter,
to a point where on the Minrue Institute website it
cites these studies and says it will hurt your head
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if you do it too fast. It causes so much
physical change it gives you headaches. It doesn't feel good
at first, but it definitely is doing something in terms
of strengthening the brain, just as seeing how much gray
matter people that do this kind of meditation have versus
people that never meditate in their lives.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
What kind of time allotment per day would you need.
Let's say you were me and you were going to
go to the Monroe Institute and pay whatever amount of money, Like,
is it eight hours a day? Is it fifteen minutes
a day? And it builds up? How does that work?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
So there's multiple tapes. I would just one to night.
That's how I did it all the way through, and
each tapes thirty to forty five minutes, and you close
your eyes, you put on the headphones, get a nice
company dark room, and sometimes it feels like you're there
for four hours, and sometimes it's like five minutes goes
by and you're already done. But what you'll notice is
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you get through the first you know, four or five tapes,
and you don't really feel like you got anywhere. It's
not enough is really happening. And then suddenly it's like
a switch just flicks on in your brain and it
takes you to this whole new place. And whether it's
your imagination or not will be a great argument forever.
But man, the things you'll see and here is I've
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never thought stuff like that before. And it'll tell you
some crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
And you're telling me, there's an instance at least that
has been documented or not. We don't know where they
use this technique, and through meditation, someone identified if there
were hostages in another country.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
It's happened multiple times, so you could read a lot
of the files. It's called Project Sunstreak, but it has
you know photo examples of here. They would put a
photo in an envelope. This is when they were first
testing it out. So they would be a photo of
a tree or somebody's house. They would seal it up
in an envelope and tell somebody look inside the envelope
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and tell me what's in there. So the guy would
go do his meditation and come out with a drawing
that would be accurate down to the materials that the
house used. And there's probably forty instances just in this
one file, and it shows the drawing next to the photo,
and it's it's impeccable. How accurate this is. I mean,
it's it's almost funny to think about, because the government
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is telling someone a go close your eyes and tell
me if there's hostages in Lebanon, or go draw this house.
And that doesn't that seems like something out of a
science fiction novel. But it's it's it's almost lappable, how
out there it is. It's very very interesting if and
I wonder why nobody covers it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, if for some reason you get your old account back,
if it is not permanently banned, we will put in
the notes and we will we're going to preface all
this anyway with some lead in. We will make sure
that your old account is shared, communicated, make sure everybody
knows where to go. Otherwise, your new TikTok is Ethan
Frice E T H A N F R I C right.
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Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
That's correct? And we have hashtag three Ethan going on
right now. Videoone wants to go through something in there,
I'm sure it would help it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, free freaking Ethan's when I say I can't believe it.
I can't. I saw you posting, but I saw a
lot of people posting footage of pre where everybody was
freaking out because nobody was actually stopping what was happening.
I'm surprised that they took your account down because I
have seen it now in a few places where it's
raw footage of people going hey, hey, hey, and nobody's
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paying attention to it.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
It's bizarre. I mean, I'm hoping it was banned by mistake.
I've submitted probably sixty of and I get an automated
response back that says you know your account won't come back.
We won't respond again. But I keep getting that email,
so I'm hoping the more times I send it, some
of a person will see it and I can get
my account back. But I agree, I've seen it all
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over the internet. I don't know why me posting it
was such a problem, but my accounts a little bit controversial,
so it doesn't surprise me. It's gone. It's just a
little bit shocking.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
I want to ask you one more question, and this
I didn't tell you I was going to ask you
about this, but the Challenger explosion. I believe it's a
Challenger explosion. This to me is wild. Now you can
set it up better than I can, but it seems like,
according to what I've heard you say, there are basically
older doppel ganger versions of the people who died that
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exist today. How real is this? Do you feel? And
if you don't mind, just reset it up for my listeners,
because I was trying to explain this to friends and
they were like, you're crazy. I'm like maybe, or maybe
I'm just not telling the story right.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, So it's that's a really interesting topic. I believe
those four or five astronauts on board, but there, yes,
there are older doctor Gosh, I can't talk to my
bad There are older doppelganger versions of these people with
the same exact names, spelling, and birthday, which I looked
into it and the only other instance I could find
(52:25):
of adoppelganger with the same name, spelling and birthday one
had happened in the last hundred years, aside from these
three astronauts or maybe four. So what's interesting is you?
I mean, you can just google these astronauts. Google one lady,
then google the other one professor at Yale for astrophysics.
(52:46):
It lines up perfectly with the career and everything. And
you start looking closer and she'll do a little wave
with their pinky out and then you look at the
older version doing the same wave, and that could be anything.
But then the next guy has a weird crooked tooth,
so does the old gentleman. Just one crooked tooth. One
of them has a weird scar on their ear, and
(53:07):
it's the same. And again it's nothing you can prove,
but it's it's so interesting. I mean, statistically that would
be called impossible. I can say that. I don't know
if I can draw an opinion without enough concrete fact.
And it's interesting. So a guy on TikTok had actually
(53:28):
interviewed one of the female astronauts or he just went
up and started asking her, hey, why do you look
like this person? Is there any relation? And on video
she breaks down almost crying, and she runs away, And
that's weird. You know, it's nothing you can draw concrete
conclusions on. That's almost a little bit dangerous to do.
(53:50):
But there's something there, and it's a little fishy and
statistically impossible. I mean, it's almost how much coincidence before?
It's not a coincidence anymore.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Also, why wouldn't they change their name? Because I'm with you,
it is such a coincidence and if you were trying
to hide it, that's hiding so much on plain sight
that you're caught. But why would they not change their name?
Because I saw the pictures of them old and young?
But then I think, well, is that an AI photo
that they've just made older? Because again I'm only taking
the information from social media, as are you, and you're
(54:22):
not drawing any conclusion as well, except saying, wow, if
this is true, this is wild. Do we know that
those pictures are really them older and not some AI
version that someone's made.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah, So most of the photos I used in that
video I pulled from their personal LinkedIn accounts. What's funny
is I believe his name is Dick Scobie. He goes
by Richard Scobie. Now he's now the CEO of cowsand Trees.
Their logo is a crashing rocket ship.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
You can't make it up.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
His account is at Ethan Frice Ethan. I really appreciate it.
I'm sorry you accounts taken down. I will go and
follow your new account. I'm a big fan. I watch
all your videos and thanks for giving me a little
bit of time today.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Much appreciated, Bobby. Appreciate you having me on that. This
was a first for me. I had a blast, So
thank you.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
All right, buddy, see you later.
Speaker 7 (55:10):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.
I had a questionable visit to my house and somebody
told me to just cool my jets, which that prompted
me moving. That was pretty scary.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
But welcome to episode four sixty six of the Bobbycast
of First, Eddie and I are going to talk about
the top ten most controversial songs in country music. We'll
also share Bobbycast clips from artists that we've had on
talking about these controversies, so you'll hear from Riba and
Martina and more. So it's a really cool topic, or
(00:34):
it was fun for Eddie and I to do, and
then we bring in some of the people actually talking
about it. We'll also talk to Ethan Fries. Now. The
thing with Ethan is I found him on TikTok. He
is not an artist. He does investigative journalism and I
would just watch him talk for three four minutes at
a time. His stories are mind blowing. He talks conspiracies.
(00:56):
You know, I like aliens. He talks aliens. He talked
CIA FBI, and I don't feel like he's like crazy
conspiracy what he is and I think he talks about this.
He's on the spectrum a little bit, and he goes
and reads every all these redacted files as the government
releases and just reads all the data an insane amount
of research just because he's like, I can't stop reading them,
(01:19):
and so it's not like he just goes, I'm gonna
come up with something crazy. He reads all of this.
We talk about it here. You can follow him on
TikTok at Ethan Frice. His old TikTok was taken down
and never came back. It never came back, so he
is up now as at Ethan Fries. We just want
to say, free Ethan. Yeah, free freaking Ethan is what
(01:40):
we say. Here we go. We hope you liked this episode.
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All Right, Eddie and I are here to talk about
the ten most controversial songs in country music, and this
is from your Barker and I thought we'd go through
(02:01):
it because we have in these episodes of The Bobbycast,
some of the artists have actually talked about these songs. Okay,
so we actually have clips with them and we can
start at number ten and I'll just say the song
to you and tell me what you think it's about
or why it would be controversial. Okay, because sometimes it
completely missed me that there was a message on some
of these songs. Try that in the small towns did
(02:21):
on this list? I'm not it's gotta be no, because
it's not that song wasn't controversial about the message. It
was people going, hey, I don't think you realize it,
but the message that you're putting out this is these
songs actually meant and yeah, okay, got it was created
and it pushed boundaries, challenged culture, et cetera. Okay, so
(02:46):
it was created with the idea of when people hear
this song, if they understand what it's really about, it's
probably going to create a little a little bubble, little conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
This is tough for me because I didn't really listen
to music a lot like trying to get in the
message me either.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I was like, that's a chain. I don't even know lyrics.
I know melodies and I know some lyrics. But number
ten is Independence Day from Martina McBride. Oh yeah, fourth
of July, and most people a lot of people play there.
On fourth of July, you'll hear radio stations play Independence
Day and fourth of July. That's not what it's about.
It's about domestic violence. No way. I thought you were kidding. No,
(03:21):
I didn't know that. I had no idea because it's
like let freedom ring. It's about exploring the impact of
domestic violence and alcoholism. Some of the lyrics were thought
to be extremely too heavy because there was like a
patriotic ish feel, but it really wasn't about that. Martina
was in episode three eighty eight of The Bobby Cast.
She talked about how Independence Day was never a number
(03:43):
one because some people, enough people in radio knew what
it was about, and they had a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know, we had a lot of resistance at radio
with that song because the subject matter. And I think
it was really because she burned the house down, you know,
it was like she was taking she took action that
just didn't sit very.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well with a lot of radio people.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Bizarre and one guy said to me that video like,
if I'm sitting with my daughter and that video comes on,
then I have to talk to her and explain things.
And I'm like, yeah, dude, that's maybe not a bad idea.
So it was interesting. It's just a different time.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow, that's so, that's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But you know what, because of that, she opened doors
for other women to write songs about going a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Is going a little crazy because is it about standing
up for him? It is?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But I guess you know, everyone interpreted that is like, oh,
she burned the house and now she got a little crazy. Well, hey,
Carrie like took a bat and beat up the Cadillac,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What I mean? Yes, And that's okay because he cheated
and it's gonna beat Yeah. Different though, dude, I never did.
But in Independence Day, like, no, he heard her absolutely okay.
So I didn't realize we talked about this before that
Rage against the Machine was actually like a fight against
the government, rage against the government. And to you, you'd
(04:59):
always known that. I'd never known that I'd do that.
I never put it together.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I was probably seventeen, and I yeah, I get clicked.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And this here, it's funny that you never put that
together because I never heard that part of the song.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
All I remember was let freedom ring and Independence Day,
like it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Man. Fourth of July Number nine is Okie from Muskogee. Okay,
I'm proud to be in Okie from Muskoge from Merle Haggard.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And we don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee, and I am
in Muskogee a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Actually that's crazy now, like a lot. My father in
law one of his uh practices in Muskogee, he's an
eye doctor. So you get different answers from folks about
it how it changed, even with Merle Haggard giving the answer,
because at first when they wrote the song, it was
a hit. And what do you think Okie from Muskoge's about?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So it has to be like protesting against the war.
So I'm thinking, like, you know, like we're not hippies
here in Muskogee, like we defend our country here, so
protesting the Vietnam I'm thinking before the war. No, No,
like he's saying, like, you know, we're not like weed smokers,
we're not hippies, we don't wear flowers.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Those are the protesters.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Those are the protesters that we know in America is
like no fighting, just make love, nope, peace.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So then you're protesting the protesters, which you would be
fighting for the war.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is defending your country, right,
Like that's kind of like the fight. Okay, country boy
defending his country. It's okay to go fight. We're defending
our country where the.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Hippies are like, no, man, let's not go fight, Let's
just make love. So initially he said it was in
supportive American service members during the Vietnam War because I'm
proud to be an okie from Suskogie, Middle America. Dude
doing it up. Then later he started to admit what
the song was really about, that it was kind of
making fun of small town people. Oh, it was like
(06:52):
a sanitized version of it was satire about small town America. Oh,
so he laid admitted that he was kind of making
fun of it. Yeah. And I think in the documentary
that I watched on Country Music that was like five
hundred hours long, remeber that one can bur. I think
he talks about that in that. Wow. I didn't know that.
So it was in both ways a bit controversial because
(07:14):
it was freaking Merle Haggard and we're normal. He's also
not from Oklahoma. But and I think he was just
driving through what I remember the story being, remember, not
written in front of me. Is that he was driving
through it and he's like, what the heck would you ever
do in this town Muscogey, Oklahoma? Or around it? And
so it was kind of a song making fun of
towns like that. But then it became a hit and
(07:36):
it was like, oh crap, no, it's for America. And
then he later admitted it really wasn't. So that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Can you imagine all the country, small town people singing
it off.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They found that out? Yeah, man, that's number nine, number eight,
You've Never Been This Far Before? From Conway Twitty. I
don't know that one. I don't either, it says. The
lyrics to the song probably wouldn't pass muster today. It's
about getting intimate with a young woman who's still a
virgin oh boy, which earned the song of band from
many radio stations. After its original release in nineteen seventy three,
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it still became a number one hit. You've Never Been
This Far Before was a number one hit. There are
creepy songs from the sixties and seventies, they just weren't
creepy then. But she's seventeen, she was just seventeen. There's
that one too, or she's fifteen, She's mine. How about
young Girl get Out of My Mind?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, like shameless?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I know, because there it wasn't shamed. I mean, was it.
It's just it wasn't shamed. I mean they were thinking
about sixteen year old when they were like twenty three.
I mean Elvis, you know, married one. Yeah, so that's
weird to sing about if you're an adult man. How
(08:51):
but do you know how old he was? I'm sure
he had to be old. Do you write it the lyrics? Yeah?
About getting it? I don't know. It doesn't matter, Okay, yoh,
it does matter though, because I doesn't matter if you're
singing and recording it. It doesn't matter who wrote it.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
But do people even think did they even think about
that back then? Like, you know what, it's gonna make
me look bad because I'm fifty years old and I'm
singing about this when maybe a twenty year old wrote
it about you know, if.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You're still singing it, you have to think about that.
But my point is you didn't have to think about
it because it wasn't culturally inappropriate, because there were a
lot of songs that were like that. It's crazy he
wrote it as a soul songwriter. Oh no, Hey, himself
kill blame it on a buddy in the room with
an idea. Oh no, it wasn't my line. Oh it's
(09:36):
my son. My son told me about the idea. That sucks.
But again, there are a lot of if you type in,
and I have my phone, so I'm just going to
type in creepiest lyrics about being creepy young girls pop songs. Good,
(10:01):
that's good to be detailed like that. Yeah, I need
to do more by that. There's a lot more creepy
songs out there. Okay, so pop songs. Let's see what
this is. Mike, tell me what you find. I'm looking
at a different thing here, but here is and I'm
searching this. I feel like I'm gonna get bad, like
somebody's gonna kick in the door. I mean, you just
got a red flag of the FBI. We watch this
(10:24):
guy's phone real quick. There are creepy lyrics and they
have every breath you take. But it's a different kind
of creepy. It's not young. That's like a stalker. There's
pumped up kicks. Not it, that's a shooting song? Oh
is it? Yeah? That's the we sing that one pumped
up kicks. You better run better run faster than my bullet.
Oh man. Yeah, okay, And I don't think a lot
(10:45):
of people knew what that was about. Brown Sugar is creepy,
but not young girl Stones gold Coast slave ship bound
for cotton fields, sold in a market down in New Orleans.
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing all right. Hear him
whip the women around at midnight. That's part of the
lyric there, brown Sugar Brown. Yeah, I had no idea
(11:05):
that's what that song was about. Brown Sugar, What about
you or my sunshine? Listen to this. I'll always love
you and make you happy if you will only say
the same. But if you leave me and love another,
you'll regret it all someday. It's like that first two
threatening Good thing. We didn't do that. I clicked into
the wrong. Creepy dude, what's crazy about? I love you?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You are my sunshine? Like I'm sure did parents sing
that to their kids all the time. I'll send you
this list.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I don't recognize any of these songs, but maybe you do.
Here is the Beatles Run for your Life. Okay, you
have a list creepy rock songs about younger. I know
it's weird to even search about young girls that you're
singing along to without realizing. Okay, straightcat blues of that one. Right,
(11:51):
good morning, little school girl. It doesn't say who the
artist is though, good one of those school now, Oh
my gosh, vehicle. Don't know that one. My Sharona, my
mam ma Sarona, never gonna stop. Give it up. Such
a dirty mind, always get it up for the touch
of the younger kind.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh my goodness, that's my Sharona. Yeah, dude, how crazy
is that We've sang my Sharona a thousand times and
never knew that.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
How about this one? Girl, You'll be a woman soon?
Oh yeah, is that Neil Dimon? I think so you'll
be old woman? Please come take my hand. Girl, you'll
be a woman soon. Say for sure. He didn't write
that one. The eighteen year old did. Oh let's see
young girl. Yeah, that's young girl. Keeps it. There's a
(12:40):
diferente called younger. There's more than one's. Here's this one
though you're sixteen. You're beautiful and your mind. You know
that one? Na man, I don't know that one. Neil
Diamond was the sole songwriter.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh my goodness, dude, at least throwing an eighteen year old.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's all alone in their basement. Don't stand so close
to me, don't stand so inside him. There's longing the
girls an open page bookmarking, she's so close. Now the
girl is half his age. Okay, that's but that could
be he's sixty. He could be sixty. And he's like, hey, stop, okay,
how about walk about? Walk this way, walk this way,
aerosmith run him. See schoolgirl sweetye with a classy kind
(13:17):
of sassy little skirts climbing away up the knee. There
were three young ladies in the school gym locker. When
I noticed they was looking at me.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
The thing is who is he a student? That's what
I'm wondering, Like, is he he's got to be the student?
Because if he's a teacher, like or if he's just
a dude that has gone on campus illegally snuck on campus.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I saw her standing there. She was seven, she was
just seventeen, if you know what I mean, No, dude,
we don't know what you mean. We don't know, Paul
to be like if the raging idiots did when you
grew up instead of when I grew up. Oh no,
when you grow up. Oh no, that's disgusting. Okay, let's
(13:58):
move on that up. That's good. A fancy from Reba? Yeah,
because it was yeah and Riba did not write the song.
It was originally recorded by Bobby Gentry. It was released
in nineteen seventy massive success. Reba released it again in
ninety one. They say a classic ode about a woman
who finds her way into the world as a sex worker.
As a kid, I did not know. I know all
(14:19):
the words. I knew as I got older, I was like, wait,
what she's dressing hers to go up? What? Yeah? And
then it got so. On episode three nineteen of The
Bobby Cast, Reba talked about how she was first told
not to do a cover of this song because of
that subject matter.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Well, when I was with Jimmy Bowen in the eighties,
he said, is there a song you want to do?
A remix song? And I said, yeah, fancy. He said, oh, woman,
you don't need to be doing that. That's about a prostitute.
I said, I'm totally aware of that. It was like, Nope,
you can't do that. And so when I went with
Tony Brown in nineteen ninety, he said, would you like
to do a song again, and I said, fancy he's
(14:55):
Oh my gosh, that's my favorite song.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So we did it Tony to be that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's a really good song. It's like you read my mind.
I didn't want to do that it's a great song,
but it really is. It is a great song. Number
six Girl Crushed from a little big Town. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
But was it ever about lesbian love? It's about a
girl crush. Yeah, okay, I mean that's yeah, Okay. That's
why it was kind of controversy because I remember at
the time people were just like, well, no, I mean
it could just be like I have a just crush
on a girl, not in a loving way, but like, but.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What does that even mean? A crush on a girl
that's you. You don't have to be a lesbian, but
have a girl crush is like that in the middle ground. Yeah,
and you got to think I have a crush on you, dude,
And I'm not trying to ever say that I got
a boy crush. And then people will be like, oh,
what you're saying? What what am I saying? Tell me,
I know what you're saying. You're staring me deep in
(15:52):
my eyes. So people saw it as encouraging homosexuality. That
was a bit of part of this story too, because
that was the first one to play it. But it
was bigger than just that because a little bitdown had
to deal with it. And so here's episode sixty six.
Karen Fairchild, a little Bigdown, talked about how they handled
(16:12):
the backlash.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
I've had people in the business stop me and go man,
that was a good one. Y'all did like, would you
think that we would actually do that a couple of
weeks before, trying to ward off some of the negativity
of just like moms that didn't think they wanted their
children to hear I want to taste her lips in
the morning on country radio and they were calling into complain,
and so we were getting on there saying, you know, oh,
(16:36):
it's a song about jealousy and having to try to
like get the stations to play it that we're thinking
about dropping it because of the negative calls.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So I want to taste your lips and come on,
that's not.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
That's yeah, yeah, you know that definitely crosses that line.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's great, you want to cross it, great, I have
no problem with the line. I'm just saying that that
makes it a little different. I forgot that line too.
I would have used that when I was trying to
counterpoint Garth Brooks We Shall be Free? Oh yeah, big time,
they say is most controversial song in the catalog. Why
I mean we Shall Be Free? Was you're a big
Garth guy too.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I am a big Garth guy. But I mean I
was young when We Shall Be Free came out. But
I think I even then I understood that it was,
you know, just freeing people from not how to word this,
I mean, is it like I think it was racism.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Part yeah, part of right.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Absolutely, that was a big part of it, just like
you know, so you're all equal.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yep. So that's exactly what it was. So it's, by
the way, one of his only songs to ever not
even land in the top ten because stations wouldn't play it.
That's crazy. But the song and the video imagines a
world where there's no racism, to homophobia, no violence, but
stations wouldn't play it.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I believe that's the video, the super Bowl video.
That's it where he refused to go on to sing
the national anthemunless they play the super Bowl. I mean,
that's how you do it. And then they have a
new rule now they always have a backup, a backup
the performer. Yeah, just because he was like he fond
job there. Yeah, bon Jovi's in the crowd. They were
gonna go ask bon Jovi to do it, but Garth
was like, I'm not going to sing it unless you
play the video like last minute, and they did. They played,
(18:12):
they played the video. Goodbye Earl the Chicks.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's a great one. They killed Earl Man because he
was a jerk. It's like domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, murder. People got upset about that because there was
such I mean violence, but there's I mean, if dudes
were singing this song, I don't think they had looked
at it a second. Probably not.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I think the song's great, Like I mean, it's it's
a storyline anyway, you know, it's reality, but it's a
storyline of something that happens all the time. You know,
somebody beating up his girl for his girlfriend or wife,
and then her not knowing who to go to, she
gets her best girl. She's like, I'll fly in.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
The heck. I thought us was like, let's bay all right,
killed Okay. I knew Earl he was a good guy.
They went a little too full. I've been listening too
long about you talking about those black guys. What I
thought you was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So I'm like, really this song too.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Even with the domestic violence message to me, it really
also highlights like the power of like really close friends. Yeah,
I'll show up for you and do whatever you need
because you're in a really like not great situation. Yeah,
they got your back. And what it like a just
(19:32):
a powerful, powerful song.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Like songs can just be like, ah, I'm just listen
for fun or whatever, but you listen to this one
with like.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Wow or it's just funny. You can pick out of
the way because I think when I first heard it
was just like good eur I had to die and
it's just funny, goofy. But you can also listen to
it in the way of oh wow, I hear somebody's
got something's back and they kind and beating her because
it's like shit black eyes. But then I don't remember
the exact lyric, but it's like Wanda so got a
fly overnight fly what little red eye whatever it was,
(20:01):
It's like she's got on a freaking plane. It came
to get from Atlanta. Yeah, that's a good one. Casey
muskives follow your.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Arrow of course, homosexuality, yeah, LBG LGBTQ plus or don't
That's that's what I loved about that song, like do this,
do this or don't.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We When we first started, we had her coming aster
play that song she played on our show. I remember
she got a little people were low upset at me,
but sure not that she's not compared to her because
she had to deal with it. But I think she
also was happy that she got to deal with it
because she was putting out a message that she consistently
has yeah, and that she believed in.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
She came in and we didn't have a green room then,
so like any guests that came to the studio would
sit in your office and sometimes it's sitting there for
thirty minutes waiting for, you know, their time to go
on the air or whatever. And you had a dry
erase board on the wall it's not there anymore, and
you had some markers there and she she did a
little drawing a follow your arrow and it was like
as an arrow, I think going through to a heart,
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and then she'd like little birds on top of it
and it said follow your era, like save that, like
busted it out and saved it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We left it up there forever.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean we must have had it out there for
a year or so, and then we eventually just got
rid of it.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That had been cool to keep, like a Banksy but
a Muscraves. Yeah, yeah, where is it? No? He got
wiped away board board though, I don't know. I hated
it as gross. It's dirty, made their own gross, not
that the rest of the stuff doesn't, but this one
did not know temigral red ragtop, my red rag top.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
No a convertible like it's just drive. I've always thought
that the song was about just driving the open road
with the red rag top.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
One of the lyrics to the two thousand and two
song tells the story of young woman that chooses to
have an abortion without regrets. Some radio stations refused to
play the song. I didn't again, I don't hear lyrics. Yeah,
I didn't know that at all. And then number one
is the pill from the red len don't know pill
controversial nineteen seventy five of birth control, really the abortion bill,
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but birth control. So that's what it was about, and
radio stations didn't play it. It became a crossover hit though,
because it became such a newsworthy song. Who was that
Lorettah Yeah yeah, Billboard Hot one hundred Singles chart. So
those are ten very controversial songs, you remember, Brick ben Folds. Yeah,
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now we're getting into like pop.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's probably a thousand lists
of a thousand controvers songs.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, but Brick, I remember not thinking about anything after Christmas.
No one's here to find us out. Jeremy is about suicide. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Jeremy was a real storyl jam of a kid who
shot himself in front of a class, and Jeremy was
this and it wasn't it was inspired by like a
real event that happened in Dallas, but he read in
the paper. It wasn't a guy named Jeremy or anything.
It was just a kid that shot himself in front
of the class. But then he created the story of
you know, Jeremy not being loved or having it getting
(22:59):
attention from anyone, and then finally shooting him inf front
of everyone's like, oh Jeremy spoken class.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
To me, spooking. Yeah, yeah, that's tough, dude. They were,
yeah tough. Yeah. When you know the stories like that
and you hear the song again. If you've heard it
ten thousand times, it kind of hits new for the
first time.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, daughter, you were daughter. Don't call me daughters
like sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I didn't know that. Again, it's like one of those
where so what does that mean? They don't call me daughter?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Do you know it's it's a girl telling her stepdad,
don't call me daughter because you sexually abused me.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I didn't know. Sometimes I sing it with a smile.
I didn't know that. I was like, don't call me daughter.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Gotta be careful. Those programs know that. That's what that was.
Pro dam songs like It's just more and more you
go into. I'm like, wow, this is deep, this.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
This is dark. I also am pledging here to never
listen to she was seventeen, if you know what I mean. Bro, Yeah, Paul,
what do you mean, John? We don't like it anymore?
What do you talk about? All Right? That is the article.
Thanks to Yard Barker for putting that out, and you know,
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we elaborated it on a bit and had some clips
that kind of went along with it. But I just
talk about some of those songs and some that I
didn't even know that's what the meaning was. But yeah,
I appreciate you guys listening.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Hank Ty the Bobby Cast. We'll be right back and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Hey, Ethan. I love what you do. Man. First of all,
I'm a fan, and I know I reached out to
you on TikTok and it was like, because you cover
so many things, you were definitely an investigative journalist and
I think that that what you're doing, you do it
in a very interesting way. And I also like it
when you go and then we'll do the because we're
already recording, but I like when you go, all right,
I'm gonna really get into this, but let me just
(24:49):
do it up front for everybody who's gonna flip the screen,
tell you what we're about to do. Like, I love
how you take either the news or like confidential documents
that have been dropped and you explain them to Moron's me.
So first, I am a fan. That's why I'm bringing
you on. So thank you for being here today.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, thank you so much, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So, something that just happened. I don't know, is your
account down, like your your main account.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, it got permanently banned. I lost one hundred and
twenty thousand followers. It's a bummer, but you know, you
start over a lot in life, so I'm not going
to let it hurt me too bad.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Permanently banned, not temporarily. Somebody flagged something, was it? Because well,
I'll ask you why.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So the whole Trump situation that happened. One of my
followers was in person at the rally, and he sent
me a video of what had happened, and it just
showed that everybody was more aware of what was going
to happen than what it seemed like like. There was
a couple of minutes that went by people that were
fully aware that there was a shooter, telling the Secret Service,
(25:52):
and I just posted the video and I said, hey,
this is pretty weird, and that that was grounds for
taking my whole account. Why do you so less talking
about politics?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Why do you think you were banned? In your opinion,
why do you think the account was banned?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You know, I couldn't say for sure. I would like
to take it as a journalism award for I got
a little too close to something maybe, but there's there's
no concrete way to know for sure. The timing was
suspicious with the whole Trump thing and getting taken down,
and I think with politics images important, especially around election time,
so if there is a crackdown period, it would probably be.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now do you hear from people that you talk about
in these stories, anybody reach out and say, hey, dude,
like we're going to sue you, or we're going to
like punch in the face, anything like that.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I've definitely had some very question I had a questionable
visit to my house and somebody told me to just
cool my jets, which that prompted me moving. That was
pretty scary. But aside from that, nothing, nothing too crazy.
I get a lot of you know, threatening messages every day,
but there's no telling who it's coming from. Usually just
(27:01):
people will mention a video I made, usually about Diddy,
saying you know you're pushing some sort of agenda. You
can't post this. Things will happen to you and then
nothing ever comes of it. But it can be a
little frightening.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Somebody came to your house.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, someone did. I moved out of California because of that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And did they knock on the door, How did you
have a conversation with them, and did you think it
was just somebody like a solicitor or something.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was my first thought. I was expecting it to be,
you know, the neighborhood vacuum salesman or a neighbor and
they just they told me quite frankly. I opened the
door and they just said, you know, your videos online
are doing nobody any good and you need to cool
your jets with the stuff you're talking about right now.
And they walked off. And that was pretty uh. I mean,
that was weird. It wasn't something to call home about,
(27:52):
but it was. It was scary for me. I lived alone,
so it was it was uncomfortable for sure, but not
really the kind of thing I would let stop me.
And all that infos you know, public on the internet.
So what am I going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Why do this? Why are you pursuing this career, this
path of being the investigative journalist that you are.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So I have autism, not like super Bad or anything,
but it's always been an interest of mine reading through
these documents and just kind of learning what other people
don't know. My dad and I when I used to
live there, we'd hot up every night and talk about aliens.
And I started reading the Alien files, the CIA dropped
and I found so much interesting stuff. When I was fifteen,
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I found a file that was talking about the Roswell
crash and it confirmed that it actually happened. It was
on the FBI's website. It had never been covered by
mainstream journalism, no corporate media. So that prompted this whole
spark of reading through these and over the years, I've
read probably thousands of these files, and after a while,
(29:05):
I just decided, you know, why isn't this on the internet.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Do you feel like they are slow rolling information about
UFOs or aliens or whatever UTA or whatever letters they're
using now, And why would the FBI put it on
their website as a document if they didn't want us
to know about it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You know, that's one of my biggest questions. I think
they've got to be slow rolling something out, almost getting
us used to it. And there's no telling for sure,
but the fact that you have all of this stuff
on you know, the CIA website or the FBI National Archives,
and it's never been covered by mainstream journalism anywhere, No
(29:48):
Fox News, no NBC. It's mind blowing because it's straight
from the dot guv website. And I've found documents talking
about people doing stuff like in the show Stranger things,
moving things with their mind, burning people by touching, and
it's you're reading this like it's a science fiction novel
when you have to look back and go like, this
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is a you know, it's paperwork approving more funding because
it works, and it makes me wonder was it fake
for the Soviets to try to trick them out or
is this something that we actually are doing and have
access to.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Do you feel like they're putting it out and because
it is in such a documented, boring, contractual looking piece
of information that people won't read it because it just
is not appealing.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Probably, but that goes back to your point of why
is it even there? That's kind of one of the
things that made it so interesting for me is there's
no concrete way to know, but all of this information's there,
and when you really dig into it, half of these
crazy things you read about there's more evidence going for
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it than against it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So you believe there are things that aren't us on
a planet that is not this planet.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's likely. It's really likely. I mean looking at how
big space is, for example, if you were to look
at how much space we've explored in comparison to the ocean,
it would be like us going and dipping a glass
in the water and saying, look at there's no fission here.
We must be alone. The amount of space we've actually
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pioneered is next to nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I agree with you. I'm just asking you without in
a non leading way, to see how you feel, because
I agree we know nothing. We know very little. Our
full capacity of what we know is only measured by itself,
meaning we have no idea what we don't know. And
even the ocean, which is a great analogy and the
cup of water, like the ocean, what five percent of
(31:52):
its map to six percent? We don't even know what's
in the ocean, much less what is in space. And
I've read certain things. Do you feel like the ocean
end space? Both could be the conduit too, or either
it could be the conduit to get whatever needs to
be here here or Antarctica, Like there are those files
too that Antarctica is some sort of I hate to
use the word portal, but I watch movies and that's
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what they say portal. Like, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's really fishy? Why aren't we allowed to go to Antarctica.
I mean, we have people that move to Alaska on purpose.
You'd think there would be some kind of crowd that
would enjoy you know, unless you're a National geographic voyage,
you're not making it over there, and that's weird. But
I definitely agree with you. There's there's got to be
some conduit for this and reading into those UAP files more,
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they'll redact a lot of stuff. Nowadays it's edited like
a black image over the text so you can't read it.
But the really old ones they use a sharpiet and
sometimes they don't get the words perfectly. And I have
found extra dimensional sharpied out so many times. It makes
you wonder are they from space or is it a
whole dimensional thing? Because if it's dimensional, they could be
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you know, right here, right now, just not it's not
our Earth.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And how I would explain dimensional to people because they'll
look at me funny, and I don't have a great
explanation because I am not in science. However, I would say,
you know, with the television changed channels, and there's a
frequency that allows this channel and you can see this,
there's a slightly different frequency. You push the button it
allows you to see this in human form that we are,
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this is a certain frequency we're not able to see
the other frequencies, just like for watching one channel, we
can't see the other channel, even though it's in the
exact same place. Like that is my very rudimental, rudimental
analogy of how possibly we're not even able to see
the beams that the cell phone that we can't There's
so much around us that we can't see, even that
(33:49):
animals can see, and their cones in their eyes are different.
And so for us to think that we can see
and know everything, but also for you to look into
all these files and find words have been blacked out,
why would they not go and black them out with
like like the newer version of redacting files and just
leave the sharp eied versions up.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It makes you wonder, and it makes me think that
they didn't plan on the Internet being as big and
popular as it is. But that was that was a
very good way to explain the dimensions. It's like, if
if we're in a TV, we can go up, down, left,
and right on the screen, that's two dimensional. A verdimensional
would be us, you know, moving all around up, down, left, right,
(34:29):
anywhere the ground doesn't stop you and then taking that further,
you need to look at it like an onion. There
could be something past the three D, which would be
the fourth and we can't perceive that, so we can't
explain it. But that's like we if the theory is correct,
you know where the aliens or whatever they are would be.
So us being three dimensional, we could say you had
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a two dimensional ant hill if you took water and
poured it all over their ant hill. To them, it's
like a biblical flood. They can't even perceive our existence.
Water just appeared out of nowhere. So for aliens being
say a dimension above us, they perceive everything we do,
but we wouldn't even know they're there.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And I know this whole thing wasn't about aliens, but
I'm so intrigued by just even the term alien is
not probably what you and I would use, but I
think most people would associate that word with what we're
talking about, so we could continue to define it as that.
But what do you think is the one piece of
evidence that you have seen in all of these files
that proves to you mostly that we're probably not the
(35:32):
only things that exist. What do you think has been
redacted or what have you seen you talk about Roswell, like,
what have you seen where you're like, man, if I
had to bring one piece of evidence into play, it
be this easily.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
The pyramids and the construction of them. So they're ancient
compared to the Egypt that we know today, and our
indigenous populations carved the stuff on stone. But we have
highways of pyramids across the earth. And aside from that,
they're all constructed exactly the same. Two of the Great
Pyramids coordinates line up exactly to the speed of light.
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They're all directly under stars and within half a degree
of true north. Let alone the precision of actual building
or moving these multi ton blocks around. You'll see on
a lot of hieroglyphs they have a frequency table. So
if you were to put sand on a table and
play certain frequency, the sand will reorganize and make patterns.
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Now they would put these patterns on hieroglyphics along with
guy lifting up something very heavy with one arm way
above his head, and I think that symbolizes seismatic technology
or matching the frequency of an object to lighten it.
If you have a didgerido, you can go pick up
solo cups with it. Just by playing the right note,
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it'll lift the solo cup off the ground and you
can walk around with it. And I think that the
biggest evidence we have of extra life on Earth would
be the construction of the Pyramids and how advanced they
were into this technology of frequencies, the same stuff Tesla
was obsessed with, yet we didn't even have stone tools.
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I mean, it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Your Amelia Earhart content I was enamored by, and I've
always been curious and even I would say interested in
what has happened. But watching what you pulled from, I
don't know if it's a CIA or FBI website. Pribace
CIA is international at CIA.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, it was CIA, but a lot of it came
from Naval Intelligence because that disappearance happened about ten years
before the CIA was formed JAZZ so they have better
record keeping, but most of the good stuff was old
Navy intelligence website.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
So after reading and most audience probably hasn't seen, what
yet to say about it? What do you think happened
to Amelia Earhart and why it.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Seems really plausible she got captured by the Japanese, whether
she crashed or didn't. There's a file basically a case
officer is talking about a message in a bottle that
was found with a lock of hair. Now what's interesting
is this is from nineteen thirty nine and they're talking
about that the DNA tested the hair, which, if you
do a quick google, didn't come out until the eighties,
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so they had that technology before, which is really odd
to me. But this case officer goes to the island
to investigate, and everybody's very welcoming, very nice, and he
started asking about the boat it's called the Nile Atoll
that she was allegedly a prisoner on, and they tortured
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and interrogated him for like two days before letting him go.
And that's odd. You know, the government was friendly, the
citizens were friendly. He asked a question about a boat,
and you know, they backed his head and took him
off to some prisons. It raises some flags and then
you find stuff about, you know, letters from congressmen asking
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intelligence was she a spy? But the good one I
uncovered was she wrote to the president asking for some
details about her top secret world flight. And this was
about two years before she had announced the flight, so
they could have been talking about the plans and the
whole flight was a secret for the time being, or
there was an ulterior motive with the actual flight, but
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it's it's fishy. And then them confirming the DNA tested
it pretty much proves the theory. The only missing pieces.
Did they really have that technology in the forties or
what's the deal there?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do you feel like she was a spy?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It seems plausible. And that's one thing the CIA does
is they're famous for recruiting people that already have covers.
I mean, if you look into some of these intelligence
people or even people that have been suspected of, you know,
being a spy, a lot of them are Microsoft executive
or sometimes actors, people that are constantly traveling over world
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orders to the Middle East or wherever is a point
of interest. Because they already have a cover, they can
get picked up. The CIA will bankroll a nice light
for them, and all they do is a little bit
of spying on their business trip. Yeah, I'd say she
probably was.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So based on the information that I've heard from you,
if I were going to draw a conclusion, and you
can tell me if your conclusion is the same, that
her flight where she went missing was planned well before
the public knew about it. It was planned for a reason.
(40:40):
She was intelligence and she ended up. And I haven't
heard you say this. Do you think that when they
if and when that they captured her, they knew she
was a spy or they found out she was a
spy and that is why they kept her.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure. I would
assume that she was probably suspected to be a spy
because she was flying over you know, Japanese airspace right
before the war. I'm sure they figured it out. We
never saw her again.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Are any pictures of like the side of her head
or anything that they are suspicious where people are like, hey,
that might be her.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
So there's one picture and it's there's no way to
know for sure. It's a picture of a Japanese dock
with that both the Nile Atoll, and there's a white
woman and a white guy. So her and her navigator
Fred both went missing, and from the back the pictures
looked like them. I went on the Japanese Internet and
tried to date the photo and I was unable to.
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But there are some articles talking about this photo and
everybody is pretty sure it was taken two years before
her flight. So it's a big Maybe there's no for
sures there and I'd hate to just say yes without
anything concrete.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I would like to talk about the Gateway process meditation
and the CIA. First. Would you do a bit of
explaining just fundamentally on what that is.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, So the Gateway process is kind of similar to
that seismic technology that we were talking about earlier, but
it's more so in frequency. They would play one frequency
in one ear one frequency in the other, so it's
two differing sounds. But what they do is they cause
the electrical impulses of each hemisphere of the brain to
sync up at exactly the same time, and it puts
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your mind in this weird state. It's famous for giving
people out of body experiences, and the CIA dumped billions
of dollars into this from about the seventies until now.
I guess they're still doing it trying to figure out
what these out of body experiences are and if they
have application for intelligence. After a lot of research and money,
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they did figure out that people are able to close
their eyes and see things when they're not there with accuracy.
That's pretty scary. They had Stanford, Yale, all of the
big universities researching this as well as their own teams,
and everybody came to the same conclusion that it works,
and nobody really understands why it works.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
To do what exactly see something far away at the
same time, see something in the future, see something in
the past.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, so it wouldn't really be past their future to
my knowledge, it would more so be location. So there's
a pretty famous one where a guy was supposed to
remote view a military base across the United States and
he was talking about some basement sub level with files
and boxes and all this stuff that didn't exist. But
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they said, hey, you're wrong, we'll call the check anyways,
and it turned out that he had remote view to
top secret sub level of the base that was on
a need to know basis, so nobody knew it was
there except for him. And it's things like that they
would use it in any way for intelligence. Hey we
heard there's hostages in Lebanon, can you check. That's a
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pretty famous case where a remote viewer confirmed there was hostages.
And that's really when it started picking up because the
intelligence community was crediting this guy for saving these people.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Have you done any meditation like this, Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I've been doing the Gateway process for probably five or
six months. One of my rich buddies in Los Angeles,
he was crediting this to his success. He said it
made his intuition as sharp as a pitchfork, and every
business decision he made was right. So he gave me
his tapes, had me try them, and I had a
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weird out of body experience. It's a hard thing to describe,
but in the best layman's terms, whether it was my
imagination or not, I had this being come up to
me and it said, my purpose in life is to
share what I've learned about all of these things, and
you know, to put my phone in front of my
face and talk about it. And you know, my account
(45:19):
blew up. I'd never posted online before, I'd never done
anything like it. I was already kind of nagged to
post about the documents because I thought it would be cool.
So it was like another layer of confirmation, and in
my account blew up. It was about two months old
and I hit one hundred thousand followers, which seems to
be pretty good. I'm new to the whole thing, but
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I don't know how easy that would be to replicate?
Speaker 2 (45:44):
So how would I listen to these tapes?
Speaker 1 (45:48):
So you can find them online for free. There's a
place called them in Row Institute. They actually offer this
as a whole package training where you go there for
a week and they'll teach you how to do this.
They're the inventors of the Gateway tapes and it's it
seems to be a pretty cool program. But if you
can't afford all the money they you can find them
for free online. You have to search a little far
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and wide, but they're on things like YouTube, Breddit. They
get taken off the internet a lot, so you just
have to look around and maybe jump sources a few
times a week because they'll get taken down and put
back up a few times a day.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And you believe that, even within yourself, you believe that
a lot of folks believe this is the key to
unlocking some part of our brain. This the Gateway process meditation,
and that is why they're still experimenting trying to figure
out why it doesn't exactly what it does.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I think so and you can it does things that
it's very hard to word. We don't have English to describe,
but on the flip side, we have physical evidence of
how it affects your brain. Buddhists a lot of people
in religion that are very heavy on meditai. They have
tons of gray matter in their brain compared to the
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normal people, and it allows them to reach these higher
states of consciousness through meditation and prevents Alzheimer's, which is
pretty odd. People that do the Gateway program for seven
days have a twenty five percent increase in gray matter,
to a point where on the Minrue Institute website it
cites these studies and says it will hurt your head
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if you do it too fast. It causes so much
physical change it gives you headaches. It doesn't feel good
at first, but it definitely is doing something in terms
of strengthening the brain, just as seeing how much gray
matter people that do this kind of meditation have versus
people that never meditate in their lives.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
What kind of time allotment per day would you need.
Let's say you were me and you were going to
go to the Monroe Institute and pay whatever amount of money, Like,
is it eight hours a day? Is it fifteen minutes
a day? And it builds up? How does that work?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
So there's multiple tapes. I would just one to night.
That's how I did it all the way through, and
each tapes thirty to forty five minutes, and you close
your eyes, you put on the headphones, get a nice
company dark room, and sometimes it feels like you're there
for four hours, and sometimes it's like five minutes goes
by and you're already done. But what you'll notice is
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you get through the first you know, four or five tapes,
and you don't really feel like you got anywhere. It's
not enough is really happening. And then suddenly it's like
a switch just flicks on in your brain and it
takes you to this whole new place. And whether it's
your imagination or not will be a great argument forever.
But man, the things you'll see and here is I've
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never thought stuff like that before. And it'll tell you
some crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
And you're telling me, there's an instance at least that
has been documented or not. We don't know where they
use this technique, and through meditation, someone identified if there
were hostages in another country.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
It's happened multiple times, so you could read a lot
of the files. It's called Project Sunstreak, but it has
you know photo examples of here. They would put a
photo in an envelope. This is when they were first
testing it out. So they would be a photo of
a tree or somebody's house. They would seal it up
in an envelope and tell somebody look inside the envelope
(49:17):
and tell me what's in there. So the guy would
go do his meditation and come out with a drawing
that would be accurate down to the materials that the
house used. And there's probably forty instances just in this
one file, and it shows the drawing next to the photo,
and it's it's impeccable. How accurate this is. I mean,
it's it's almost funny to think about, because the government
(49:39):
is telling someone a go close your eyes and tell
me if there's hostages in Lebanon, or go draw this house.
And that doesn't that seems like something out of a
science fiction novel. But it's it's it's almost lappable, how
out there it is. It's very very interesting if and
I wonder why nobody covers it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, if for some reason you get your old account back,
if it is not permanently banned, we will put in
the notes and we will we're going to preface all
this anyway with some lead in. We will make sure
that your old account is shared, communicated, make sure everybody
knows where to go. Otherwise, your new TikTok is Ethan
Frice E T H A N F R I C right.
(50:22):
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
That's correct? And we have hashtag three Ethan going on
right now. Videoone wants to go through something in there,
I'm sure it would help it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, free freaking Ethan's when I say I can't believe it.
I can't. I saw you posting, but I saw a
lot of people posting footage of pre where everybody was
freaking out because nobody was actually stopping what was happening.
I'm surprised that they took your account down because I
have seen it now in a few places where it's
raw footage of people going hey, hey, hey, and nobody's
(50:53):
paying attention to it.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
It's bizarre. I mean, I'm hoping it was banned by mistake.
I've submitted probably sixty of and I get an automated
response back that says you know your account won't come back.
We won't respond again. But I keep getting that email,
so I'm hoping the more times I send it, some
of a person will see it and I can get
my account back. But I agree, I've seen it all
(51:14):
over the internet. I don't know why me posting it
was such a problem, but my accounts a little bit controversial,
so it doesn't surprise me. It's gone. It's just a
little bit shocking.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
I want to ask you one more question, and this
I didn't tell you I was going to ask you
about this, but the Challenger explosion. I believe it's a
Challenger explosion. This to me is wild. Now you can
set it up better than I can, but it seems like,
according to what I've heard you say, there are basically
older doppel ganger versions of the people who died that
(51:51):
exist today. How real is this? Do you feel? And
if you don't mind, just reset it up for my listeners,
because I was trying to explain this to friends and
they were like, you're crazy. I'm like maybe, or maybe
I'm just not telling the story right.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, So it's that's a really interesting topic. I believe
those four or five astronauts on board, but there, yes,
there are older doctor Gosh, I can't talk to my
bad There are older doppelganger versions of these people with
the same exact names, spelling, and birthday, which I looked
into it and the only other instance I could find
(52:25):
of adoppelganger with the same name, spelling and birthday one
had happened in the last hundred years, aside from these
three astronauts or maybe four. So what's interesting is you?
I mean, you can just google these astronauts. Google one lady,
then google the other one professor at Yale for astrophysics.
(52:46):
It lines up perfectly with the career and everything. And
you start looking closer and she'll do a little wave
with their pinky out and then you look at the
older version doing the same wave, and that could be anything.
But then the next guy has a weird crooked tooth,
so does the old gentleman. Just one crooked tooth. One
of them has a weird scar on their ear, and
(53:07):
it's the same. And again it's nothing you can prove,
but it's it's so interesting. I mean, statistically that would
be called impossible. I can say that. I don't know
if I can draw an opinion without enough concrete fact.
And it's interesting. So a guy on TikTok had actually
(53:28):
interviewed one of the female astronauts or he just went
up and started asking her, hey, why do you look
like this person? Is there any relation? And on video
she breaks down almost crying, and she runs away, And
that's weird. You know, it's nothing you can draw concrete
conclusions on. That's almost a little bit dangerous to do.
(53:50):
But there's something there, and it's a little fishy and
statistically impossible. I mean, it's almost how much coincidence before?
It's not a coincidence anymore.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Also, why wouldn't they change their name? Because I'm with you,
it is such a coincidence and if you were trying
to hide it, that's hiding so much on plain sight
that you're caught. But why would they not change their name?
Because I saw the pictures of them old and young?
But then I think, well, is that an AI photo
that they've just made older? Because again I'm only taking
the information from social media, as are you, and you're
(54:22):
not drawing any conclusion as well, except saying, wow, if
this is true, this is wild. Do we know that
those pictures are really them older and not some AI
version that someone's made.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah, So most of the photos I used in that
video I pulled from their personal LinkedIn accounts. What's funny
is I believe his name is Dick Scobie. He goes
by Richard Scobie. Now he's now the CEO of cowsand Trees.
Their logo is a crashing rocket ship.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
You can't make it up.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
His account is at Ethan Frice Ethan. I really appreciate it.
I'm sorry you accounts taken down. I will go and
follow your new account. I'm a big fan. I watch
all your videos and thanks for giving me a little
bit of time today.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Much appreciated, Bobby. Appreciate you having me on that. This
was a first for me. I had a blast, So
thank you.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
All right, buddy, see you later.
Speaker 7 (55:10):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.
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