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September 17, 2024 36 mins

In this episode of The Bobbycast, Bobby Bones, Eddie and Mike D discuss a list of artists and give a YES or NO if they should get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Find out which artist they're shocked isn't already in, who they feel shouldn't make the cut and more! Plus the Carolina musician who was arrested on fraud and conspiracy charges that carry a potential penalty of up to 60 years in prison in an alleged fraud scheme that used AI to stream his music billions of times.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, welcome to episode four seventy of the Bobby Cast.
It's Eddie and myself and we're talking about a couple
of things, including it's another year of the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame, so we will debate who deserves
to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
It's up to us. We will debate it, but we
do not get to enforce it. Although I have really
positioned myself in a place for like Judge of the
World and like gatekeeper of the world. I would like

(00:28):
to do that job, but I don't think it is
up I don't think there is that you'd get paid
a lot of money for that. King of the world.
I would love to be president.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I would love to be president.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You wouldn't, though I would.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I would love to be president, dude, But I don't
think that you have as much power as you think. No,
I know that, but I would love to be president.
Think of all the secrets you get to know.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that'd be awesome. Ye, but have you seen people
age when they go in and they come out. My
age not like that, dude, that's rapid age. I would
love to be president. I think that would be awesome.
I mean, you'd be good at it.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Possibly. I think I have the compromise gene to actually
make things happen instead of just fighting for things that
will never happen. I wouldn't attach myself to an ideology
that must happen or nothing would happen. I think that's
why I would be pretty good at it.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, because I would.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
But it doesn't matter, and you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You're good to it.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
But there's no king of the world. I can't be
king of the world. That's all I want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, but you said president.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Now, I really that's not the king of the world now.
But if that job opens up, want it? So hey,
welcome to it. We got a lot to talk about.
The first and this has happened ish before. But there's
a guy in North Carolina. This is WFTV with a story.
He's been arrested on fraud and conspiracy charges that carry
a potential penalty of up to sixty years in prison
after a fraud scheme that used AI to stream his

(01:46):
music billions of times. Prosecutors say fifty two year old
Michael Smith had collected over ten million dollars in royalty
payments since twenty eighteen by using AI to repeatedly stream
his music over thousands of fake accounts.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's so smart.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, the guy had created a system.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's so smart. But I want to say he's not original.
I started, I did this. I was one of the
first people to do this. Except I didn't do it AI.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You just did it yourself over.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, yes, I repeat our first rating any of the album.
I just put it on repeat.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's one computer.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Though, and we did not get a lot of streams
from that.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
He also used AI to create tens of thousands of songs,
so his scheme would not attract attention. Prosecutors say Smith's
schemes stole realty money from other legitimate artists. So stole
money from other legitimate artists means there is really only
a pie that gets paid in and then everybody splits it. Yes, yes,
so if he's streaming this percentage, he got more of

(02:38):
the pie. You're telling me, because you will never convince
me this isn't happening with every artist in some way,
I would think so inflating numbers like crazy. I do
not know this for a fact, but if this guy
can do it on this level, you're going to tell
me there are at different record labels artists. Man, who
knows that they're not doing this on a smaller level

(03:00):
to stream their artist music.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
You know how like at the end of the year,
Spotify or Apple or whatever they do all these like
little images for their artists to post on Instagram. And
there are some artists I'm gonna mention who there are
some artists where I look at.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
That post and there's there's no way there is And
there are many ways for an artist to elevate their
streams in a way that we aren't familiar with playlists,
so they will pay it. I'm gonna say things. I'm
just gonna go I've heard okay, Yeah, so you can

(03:33):
have a really successful playlist. Let's say I can. I
can create a really successful playlist Bobby's playlist, well, Bobby's
Good Songs. And if I get a lot of subscribers
people that follow the Bobby's Good Songs playlist, Let's say
I get a million people that follow that list, Well,
I can then charge people to be on my I
got the charge an artist like and then they can

(03:54):
pay me to be on Bobby's Good song playlist. Oh
that's crazy. And there are. No, there's no nothing, no
rules against that. Yeah, and so that's one way for sure.
Possibly I've heard that that could happen. Obviously, you fight
to get in the playlists of the companies if it's
iHeart or Spotify or or Apple their big playlist. But

(04:15):
I know that they aren't getting paid by the artists.
They're building these lists out so people follow them. So
people like the product.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Would that be payola?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
No, because it doesn't exist digital pola. No, because payola
happens with broadcast because the government owns broadcast, got it FCC,
which is a government entity. This is all private, so
there are no rules against taking money when they're a
private business to promote yourself. So no, it wouldn't be.

(04:46):
But this guy, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think. I mean, that's sixty years is a lot
for this, right, Yeah, yeah, it's a day.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But then you learn from them, like it's like catch
me if you can, like all the crimes. And what
happens is he gets in some trouble, but then he
gets out of jail and he goes on even like
mentors detectives on how to stop people from doing these
type of crimes.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So this guy goes into the right.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's like a white ages to be like a hacker,
like a like a white hat hacker. After he set
the rules of the black cat hacking.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, genius.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
But again he's not the only one doing it. Maybe
he got his appetite got a little big. He's making
five hundred bucks, eight hundred bucks, and he's like, I
bet I can make ten thousand. I bet I can
make a million. Think about that. Because it was too
easy to him. He collected over ten million dollars since
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's legit.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's that's over a million bucks a year, because it's
not twenty twenty eight so you're talking about six years
ten million dollars. That's why you know, you know, his
buddies were like, why is he how did he get that?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Ferrari like because.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
He can't tell anybody because you know, someone have a
big mouth.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, but you're gonna have all that money, you're gonna
spend it.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wild Mike, how do you feel about this?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, I've seen before Ai, there's been other big
artists who allegedly had like streaming farms where other countries
they would have like just multiple phones up streaming their music.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yes, and that's good. That's the lood. Also cheating, but
they're at least using phones like an actual phone. Yeah,
and and and again not no integrity in that, but
they're paying people. This is he developed. He's a program
with AI. Yeah, that's Smart's so smart, Like put him

(06:26):
in jail for.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
A day, yep, and then learn from him and then
learn from him.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Let him be the president of antide. But again that's
just funny. He got so much money, but he bailed
himself out for an hour. He wouldn't have to do
an Yeah, uh so, congratulations this to that guy. His
name Michael Smith. He's fifty two. It's not even like
the guy's twenty seven. Yeah, like some technology whiz kid.

(06:50):
The guy's older than us, like probably like sticks or
fish or something about later. He must work in technology
in some way though, right, definitely, he just don't. So anyway,
Shout out to Michael Smith. Shout out if he spends
justice for Michael Smith sixty years, that's ridiculous, Like there
are people killing people, like like people in prison, but
what are you in for? Oh dude, that's that's amazing.

(07:11):
That's amazing. That's real, that's real. They have the top
list of best rock riffs. I'll do it in my
mouth real quick. Name them number ten? Uh damn dum
down no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I can't get no satisfaction.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Correct, that's number that's number one. Yeah again about bomb dum.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Number oak on the water?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Correct deep purple? How about this.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Girl? You really got me? Now?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, you really got me? By the Kinks, I have it. Oh,
it's hard not to sing the lyrics of it with
the guitar.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Just just whatever comes to your mind me the guitar.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
That one's gonna be harder up.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I haven't got it with a high hat. That's back
in black a c.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
DC back in black. Okay. How about dumb dum um
dum dum dum dum dum dumb to drum that's not guitar.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's okay, I got you already ahead, smells like teen.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Spirit correct Nirvana?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Six?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Did you hear about Dave Roll?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just kidding good? I did.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I'm gonna skip seven. How about.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
What?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't know the guitar linked to this? I know
I would, but I know how it start? Ok I
got it? D no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
No no.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
The Iron Man correct Black Sabbath I was gonna do. Okay,
how about this one? About this one of this?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Mm hmm? Is this the one that you can get?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Nine now? But this one? There two versions of this song,
two versions. I need the faster version. How about but
I'm doing the slow one.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Uh, there's just just do the slow one. Then.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
See we got down that.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Mm hmmm done.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I can do the melody. You'll get the melody of
the lyrics. I'm trying to the lyrics.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Take your time, take your toe. We want to do
this right.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I can't get the guitar like I'll do. Let me
do the melody of the song. Okay, I fail at
this one.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, you do the melody and if I can get
the guitar riff.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I'll do the slow version though, Okay, then the damp
ding EMP, then emp. Then then.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's the first part that's throwing me off.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's exactly it. Though damp dan dan spanning?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, what is that?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Laila got damn.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Something like that?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
And then one crazy train. I know the song.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
No no no no no no no no no no.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah. I can go back to this one real quick.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
This is the original one, the one script. Mm hmm, No,
is that rocky.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
No, it's a whole lot of love and I'm going
a whole.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Lot of level. No, I don't think I know how
that one goes.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And then the other one that I missed was Sweet
Home Alabama's not there, Sunshiny your Love?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
What is that cream?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It happens in that too, so.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh no, now I'm doing something smoking the water. It's
something like that though, right, Sunshine.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't know. I would play them as a game.
But we go to jail and sell the guy as
Michael Smith Can whatever his name was. We go to
jail with new playing the song You're in the same
Cell that's from Ultimate Classic Rock.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
All right, let's take a quick pause for a message
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Speaker 1 (11:26):
We love talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
And I think I'm still a voting member. After the
segment we did where I probably revealed too much about
the voting process, thank god, I don't know. I don't
I didn't get a second voting slip for the year.
But I also didn't get told I'm not so I
don't know. Oh, but I was never told I was
kicked out. Do you normally get your voting slip by now?
I don't know. I've only ever had it once every

(11:47):
when it was But they now are doing the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame Voice your choice, and I
don't think if you win it you get in, but
I think it factors in, like it's part of like
a percentage of the overall.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
And anyone can vote. This is just anyone in the world.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, okay, because you can do it by visiting the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm going to read some
of these here, so the raw. Okay, here's what the
deal is the Rock and Hall Hall of Fame. If
you vote on that website when they do that, that
is a percentage. This that you do there is just
them kind of wanting to know. But I think it
could also like secretly affect the people that are making

(12:34):
the decisions. So there is one online pull the matters.
But here you go, I'll read you a person and
you just tell me if you think they should be
in the Rock and Hall.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Got it, And it's like do they deserve to be
in there now? Right?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Like because you can only get in if it's like
twenty five years past your first album.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Okay, and these all these people meet that required it.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Maybe twenty I should know this as a voting member,
you should. I only look at the people they give
me and go do it. They deserve it. Mike, Well,
let us know when you figure that out. It's either
twenty after their first album or twenty five. But okay,
here we go. The Cranberries, yes, I would say no,
I don't think I have a body big enough.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I answer it way too quickly. I mean, because they
got they got jams, and they were a staple.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
They got like three bops. Uh, like dreams, they got
like zombie, hold on, hold on, hold on linger that's it. Shot,
those are only three bangers.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
They got it? Do you have to let it?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Lingers zombie, zombie, zombie saying dreams.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
My life.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Every way, got it? That's dreams, Mike, we Cranberry, I
see what they're fourth.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
There's one more.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
But even if it's four, I don't think that's enough
to get in.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
The rock and wall.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
And it is twenty five years by the way, Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Okay, and that that works. But yeah, you're right. I
may have answered that one way too quick because I
do like the Cranberries. But you're you're talking like maybe
two albums that I remember.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, I think there. But to be fair, if you
have an album that is transcendent, for example, Oasis, like
I think Oasis should be in the Rock and Hall
of Fame, and they really only have one massive album,
their second album, the fourth List, it is Oh to
my Family, my father, you're making that up? My mother?

(14:30):
Are you making that up?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I swear that's how it goes. I'm swear that's how
that song goes.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Are you making that up?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Nope? You think just because I said I heard family, Yeah,
I went right to father. That's what she says.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's a jam number one, Linger to his Zombie number three,
Oh to my Family, it has Oh I know this song?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Dude? Do you remember my father? I do. I'm telling
you man, Okay, But you know what, now that you
say that Oasis was one good album, I want to
put Cranberris in.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
This is Sunday. I remember this one. I don't think
they can't get the lead sing or die. But I
don't think if the Cranbers re united right now that
there would be like a oh my god, everybody guess what.
They're back together you're right. I do like Cranberrys, but
rock and Hall of Fame I don't think so. Okay,
but it's not saying you're you're wrong. Yeah, no, is

(15:28):
it saying that I'm right.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I did answer it very quickly, but I'm going to
stand behind it.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
The Smiths, I don't get the smith Why are the
Smiths so popular in Mexico, in southern Texas and Mexico. Yeah,
it's very Latino, extremely huge in California.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I don't know why. I just always loved them, and
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I guess because of Mexican Who are the Smiths like,
give me a Morrisey? Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Why is Morsey so loved by Hispanics, Mexicans and Latinos.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I think it's his voice that because he's not he
has kind of like that old school vibe to him.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
But he's not Mexican.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
No's white.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
He's like white and yeah, I never knew and I
was never like, I'm not a hater. I was never
a fan, but I remember my friends being like, yeah,
Mexicans love them, like.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Really, I say this as a Mexican big and like
the Trollo community.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Really, well, I'm not crazy for saying that right. Oh yeah, wow,
Sound Garden. Yes, I don't think the Rock and the
Hall of Fame. I love them. They have a blip.
I don't think a blip. I think a blip is
more than than like ten years once. You need to
have more than ten years of just bang bang bang. Okay, Well,
I'm Soundguarden, Black.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Hole, Sun, won't you come?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
So that's what that's that's the number one.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yes, and then there's a man.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Spoon man.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
But even then, not keep going.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
There's more fell on Black Days?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh uh man, Black Days? Oh same Black Day? No, no, no, no,
you know Black Days helping Mike because the bell alone.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Black Day. Okay, but there's more songs, there's more outshined
play it. I think if you can't name five songs
off the top of your head, it's they're not Rock
and Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
As a general rule, I forget things, but play play
another one.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
They're burden in my hand.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't know that one. That's like, I don't know
that one.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I don't think. I don't think they are.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Dang dude, Chris Cornell needs to go in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Fish.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I've never been a yes guy. Never been a fish guy.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Don't know a single song. I've never been a fish guy.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
You've just heard of fish heads.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
They have been around, and people have been so passionate
for so long. They have toured massively for so long
that yes, I don't know a single fish song.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Can can a cult following, Yes, and a big tour
gets in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
For fifty years. I think it can. Know the answer
is no for ten years for fit. Oh, I'm gonna
say no, Mike. Will you see when fish Mate was created,
here's their biggest song. Farmhouse don't know it. I mean,
we have as many streams as they do. Ready, Regie
idiots don't know it. But it doesn't matter you.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
You can't say like, so the same like.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Nineteen eighty three, Okay, so you're talking about over over
forty years, That to me is hall of fame.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, absolutely bones if the same thousand people are going
to every.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Thousand, it's twenty thousand and thirty thousand, it's not.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I know people that like follow them for two months
at a time.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I don't even know a single song. I'm fine for
a song. If they walked in the room, You're like,
which one's Fish, there were like, no, I did no.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Trey Anastasio, is that is that one of the dudes
I know?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I think is one of the lead singer of Fish. Think.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Their average concert attendant is thirty eight thousand.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And that's the same people going to every show.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's a it's a city. It's a moving city.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Moving. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Mike, you can always be You're gonna be the vote Fish.
I say no, wow, wow, just because they don't have hits.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, they don't have any. I couldn't name one.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
But they haven't tried to be hit. They're not having
a format.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well that's they're bad.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh I would I don't. I don't know anything about Fish.
I don't like Fish. I might like Fish, I wouldn't.
I don't like I would need to go for free.
I wouldn't either, because they always to play one song
and want to Yes, because they deserve it, because they
played for thirty thousand people for forty years.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You're crazy.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Phil Collins, Yes, without a doubt, this is the solo
act Phil Collins. Yes, Yes, Phil Collins to me is
more famous than genesiss. Oh yeah, I agree that Lion
King soundtrack, Lion King it you'll be my heart. But
Phil Collins, I'll say, can we do five songs? We'll

(20:02):
just studio. So I got that one.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I don't know that one.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I can feel it coming in the hold on and then, uh,
you'll be in my heart.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's a jungle book.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's three stars in whatelse. That's a jungle book. He's
convinced me. I've said jungle book first, I said, lion
getting the Can you you ever named a single, Phil Collins.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I don't. I don't know the other one you do
in yours.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Peter gave Peter, but also who was in Genesis?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, I don't know another. I'm sorry. If again, if
you singing, I'll know it.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
It's just know it's harping in pair. Hold on, it's
just to know that day I just can't sing. And
Paradise I can't get. I know what you're saying. I'm
gonna have to find it because the way he says Paradise,

(21:05):
Oh that was that's one of those one against all odds.
You're the only one. So take a look at me.
The god that's awesome. Let me find that here. It
is against all odds, think find you. When the chorus hits,

(21:26):
you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
The drums are so good.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
When this hits, I'm gonna remember it too. But I
know it's think twice, just a nothing dead and then Paradi.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
He says that one think twice.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's what he says here. I think twice.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I think so twice. Come on, Phil, it's coming, It's coming.
I know.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Wow, No, oh my god, dude, get to the chorus
unless it's not the song this is it?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
There we go, I thing twice.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, that's good, Pard.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
That is the sound of the eighties.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's five so good, easy lover. Oh yeah, I do
from going classic rock radio. But yeah, he's in unanimous, right, Mike.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, I just Forard the Tarzan soundtrack alone, Bland King.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
He's got another song called Another Day in Paradise.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Too, though, is that not? It?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Was it? That was it? That's against all odds right, No,
that's another Day in Paradise. I went from one to
the other. Oh, gotcha A greeve you kind of love?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Don't know that one? I wish it would rain down.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Those drums are so good.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh I know this.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I wish it would rain. Yeah, we all, we all
felt call on sene yes Tool. I'm gonna go yes,
even though I'm not a fan. Dang, because I think
they changed. I think they changed what alternative music was.
Alternative music has constantly changed what it is. At first,

(23:31):
it was like I think grunge was the first real alternative.
That's where the format kind of launched from. This is
not pop, it is not rock, it's alternative. I think
Tool kind of came in and changed Tool and nine
inch Nails, where the changers of anything that's rock can
have anything I would say, and any sound coming from

(23:55):
a warehouse can be into a music and it can
be all tnative.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, they did change music because there was whatever
was happening in rock music and.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
They changed alternative. They change a turn of music.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
So yeah with you that.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I also schism. That's the biggest song.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I bet. Really I didn't they like toe? Was that
Toe Undertoe?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Number one? That m yeah litter doom.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Dum dum yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And I can't sing it and I wasn't a total fan.
You can sing, dude, it was too much for me.
I like stink fist.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
The stink fist is great, and then what's the one
I don't know about?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Gat?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I can't do great because I'm not gonna act like
I liked it. No, I know it, but I do
respect it. But I never looked. This was never on
my plate. I would never play this. I feel like
it was like this.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
You want to swim?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Learned to swim, so good, dude, Like I do. Like tools,
So I'll put them in the slipnot is that what
they were?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
The masks? Oh, the mask I don't.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Know know enough about them?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Another song.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I love slip now. I saw him last year. One
of the best concerts I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
They have any hits?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Do you know what isn't the singer like Mary Kelly
Osborne one of the dj is.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Do you know the guys even though they're in masks,
you know them?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
This is their biggest song. Kill three people.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, I've heard this before.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I forget just saying no, that's duality.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Don't hear the say something?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
This is before I forget. Kill five people? Do you
hear that?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Kill eight people?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I gotta go del Vick.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, so I'm gonna go and no one something that.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I'm gonna know.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, yeah, just because you like them. Yeah. Do you
think they deserve to be in the rock and wall Yeah, Okay,
they still tour consistently, but do they do thirty eight thousand?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Maybe not fish numbers, but they tore pretty.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Well cold Play. Yes, absolutely, they should have put cold
Play in after a Rush of Blood to the Head
one record You're in Man.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I heard someone I don't remember who it was, somebody
having an argument about about old Coldplay and new Coldplay
and how new I think it's Oasis. I think it
was Liam Gallagher talking about how you just can't you
can't respect Coldplay after they went into their techno phase.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't like anthemic Coldplays near near near as much.
I love Yellow, I love a Russia Blood to the Head,
I love Parachutes. I love that version, and they kind
of get back there now some but they did have
a whole But a band has every right to change.
And if I'm sure, i'd get tired of be doing time,
I'm sure. But I love that.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, but I like both. I like both. I like
their acoustic you know, love song stuff, and I love
their anthems We'll fix You because because I mean fix
you was not anthem. That was the gateway of going.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
To when you tral best and you don't.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Succeed, which is old Coldplay, And then when they.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Go it's like that, like bringing elephants and stuff. I
don't need that Coldplay. Keep the zoo animals off the stage.
Old Play, Yes, Jet throw toll.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I don't know much about them.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
They're old. Do you think they'd be in by now
if they'd have gotten in like you? Yeah, it's like
they should do like one of those were the gifts
made from the twenties. In the NFL Hall of Fame,
Dick Whiskers gets into the NFL Hall of Fame. Who's
Dick Whiskers? Well, he played for the Buffalo Stampeders back
in eight two eight, no, nineteen.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh eight, in nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you're too old. But here's Aqua Long.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Oh yeah, sitting on the front board, park bench.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Either one, I'm gonna go know.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Too old. They should have gotten in already.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Alison Chains, Oh yes, yes. If we are going with
the most influential in different eras, Allison Chains is a yes.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
And I would put Allison Chains right behind Nirvana with
the starter grunge. That's kind of the order of grune.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I think they could have started it, but I don't
think they were one of the well maybe carriers of
the flag, okay, one of the major carries to the flag.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I Nirvana was the reason we all learned of grunge.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, but I would even I think Nirvana alson Das
never went like pot never never was so big alternative.
They went pop.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, they were the rock dudes.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, but I love them.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I am man box like yeah, and gosh they lived
that lifestyle too.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh that's read. When it bread got thrown his sprat,
brothers got him butt naked and like played rooster over
and over, took him in the woods and did my wife.
My wife would turn on this the rooster on the
speakers outside in our yard while working out, so read
would hear them read that joke?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Is that where your fantasy team is the rooster? Booster?
What are you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, I was thinking about that? Is it? Why are
you named in that? Yeah? So I thought you hated
it then, I mean I do, But it's kind of
funny I think about it. That's would would yeah, I go, yes,
right out of time here, but Alison changed. Yes link Apart. Yes,
that's Chester Bennings. Yes, I say yes, A ton of hits,

(29:17):
a different version of rock alternative. They were the two
thousands version. I don't like their new lead singer. I
thought it was gonna be the Bonnie It's they pulled
in a different female. I do like it, brought in
a female that doesn't sound just like Chester. She's very aggressive.
I don't mind that. I don't think she sings as
well as the other Mike. Have you watched her all?

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah? I listened to their new song too.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
It just doesn't quite have like that edge too it
and she tries to have it, and I think she
does with her band, I don't. I think there were
better of all the people I saw. They were who
cares what I think? And I'm glad they didn't get
a dude that sounded just like Chester because I think
that would have been like karaoke. So I can respect
what they're trying to do. But yeah, I didn't love
didn't love her. From the people they were saying it
might be.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, and I don't know that I would go and
see that and think like, oh, yeah, this is great.
I know which It sucks because I feel like he's
getting so much hate right now, everybody, you're a place chest.
Now what they're trying to do. They're trying to move on.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, they're trying to make money. Should be able to
make honey, they should be able to play the hits.
Uh in the end, numb crawling, crawling because I want
stab close to the edge and I'm about to right
and Lincoln Park head And I didn't even love Lincoln
Park back then. I was like, they're fine, but I
think for sure. Uh Snoop Dogg, Yes, yes, if you're

(30:31):
putting rappers in remember Snoop Dogg was up for murder.
Snoop Dogg was not guilty. That he was a jury
to get not guilty and murder. And now he's now
he's covering the Olympics for sure, gangsters and on the voice. Yeah,
he's had a better career like what do you call
it whenever? Like uh, like a rod. He's had a
better career trans not transformation rehabilitation then better than a rod.

(30:59):
He served time, No, I don't think it's not nothing
for that. But he was on trial for murder and
they went to the jury. Pink no, no, I want
to go. No, I like Pink, but no Boston more
than a feeling Boston. I get Boston in Chicago and
all the city, all the city.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Don't know anything more than a feeling.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But that's it.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think peace of mind. They should already be in
if they were going to get in, right, Yeah, but
maybe they just kind of skipped over him, Amanda, No,
I don't know that one. Yeah, they had two good ones. Okay,
maybe that's why they can't get in. I say, no,

(31:46):
not yet, just a few left. Oh yeah, this I
don't even need to say the name of it. They
should already be in, Wheezer, they should already be in.
And this may be their first year to of course. Yeah,
of course, I'm very but they're still making and they're
still making hits.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Like that's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
So yes, say it ain't just the whole blue album.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
That one album, Buddy Holly Sweater.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They've had like three versions of success. My name is Jonah,
but they but they came back with Island and Son.
Remember a different versions of the green album. I don't
know colors like yeah, like light yellow or green something.
My colors aren't the best, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Are your favorite band? You couldn't understand what albums they
were because you're.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
A new Blue Blue Motley Crue. Yeah, I'm gonna go Yeah,
yeah for sure. Weird Yeah yeah me too?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Ye throw them in there, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
No, he deserves to be in Well, no.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
He launched an entire world of comedy. Even what a
parody was?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I understand that, But who else that's comedy like that
is in the rock and.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Roll fam He's the greatest to ever do it.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That's why I'm saying throw him in.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, he doesn't deserve to throw in. He deserves to
welcome with open arms.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
He was also fighting with major artists. He was getting
radio play doing parodies. Who that never's never happened. He
was huge and we could think we could list off
read it away before your time?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Huge?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh no, I mean almost paradise. Yeah yeah, good for you.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
The later side, because the YouTube was really like popping
off of people trying.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
To do what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
He do fat too, He did because I'm fat.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm fat and fat suit on the white stuff. He
got the white he came back with like white nerdy right.
He had different versions of himself. He came back with
parody hits after parodies were passe. Yeah, not traditional, but yes,
two left three left Sticks. Uh, I just know Sticks

(33:46):
and people like they're the greatest musicians of all time
in a band, so Sticks would have.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh ye yeah, yeah that's the guy.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I saw him at Lows Renegade go.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I don't know play it.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
They do have com sail Away. Oh this song is
long of the Low. There's a lot of songs that
Sticks do that we know. I bet come sail Away
breaking this song is I love? Is that the one
cartman needs to sing? Comn Babe passed? I don't know

(34:26):
know for that one. Mister Roboto, Oh yeah, oh you
want to got mister Robot? Oh yeah, wow that's crazy
too much, got too much time on my head. Oh
yeah yeah, why are they not in?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah? Put him in.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's a joke. Put him in.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And that's how I saw I got Low's the hardware.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Switch in passing for like one second minute ago, and
I chose to get on.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Because I think I saw I'd seen him like a
few months before. It's some fundraiser event. They're like, oh yeah,
that's the Sticks guy, And then I saw him a
Low's late singer.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, he's like looking at hammers too, Left Iron Maiden.
I don't know anything about and I don't know I've
seen enough T shirts to know they meant something to somebody. Yes,
but I can't say yes because I don't know enough
about them. Yeah, I'm saying, and then Blink one eighty two, Yes,
absolutely again, this is one of those triaz. They are

(35:15):
the pop punk to me. They may not I started
pop punk, but they were the ones that made everybody
else do pop punk, which then made Top forty be
a pop punk format.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I would say green Day was that band.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, green Day was punk, Yeah, pop punk not. I
would say they popularized punk. I would say Blink one
Eddy and Mike's a punk expert, so I go to you, Mike.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, they took over MTV and made it mainstream.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I would say green Day popularized punk, Okay. I would
say Blank one eighty two took and created pop punk.
It made everybody else be pop punk because people loved
it so much, and it took over the radio. Because
I don't think green Day made other bands punk. I
think green Day exploded as a punk.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Band, became the most popular punk band most commercially successful,
but then Blink came on. It was like, oh, this
is totally different and opened up.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Everybody mimicked Blink.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Then you get some forty one, you found Glory, all
those all out way raging idiots.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah yeah, do you like that raid?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I loved it, man, that's funny. That less from Ultimate
Classic Rock. All right?

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Thanks Eddie, yeah, man, thanks for listening to a Bobby
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