Bobby officially announces the President of the Nashville Podcast network. They talked about current shows and that they have some in progress. They also talked about Caitlin Clark and the huge mark she’s making on women’s basketball. Plus, they got into a discussion about the Sore Losers segment where Lunchbox aired his grievances with the president and Bobby gave his thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
So I'm at the home studio with Morgan. Who's Morgan
number one? Who is we have? I guess of officially,
even though we've talked about it a bunch of times,
announced that you're now president of the podcast network?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Have we I mean, we did.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
A social post, but we haven't actually, like I haven't
said you haven't come.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Out and said, hey, this is what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, I guess you posted on social I'm a president. Yeah,
where's my Monica Lewinski?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Exactly? I haven't found one yet.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So so okay, so this is kind of our official
conversation about that where we have a bunch of shows
on the network. We have a bunch of shows that
we're developing now through the network. And the network started off,
I was just doing the Bobby Cast, and I mean
it was like two or three shows and it kind
of interwebbed them together and then I got to eight.
(00:55):
I don't even know how many shows we have right now,
Like when you walked in, what do we have?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
We currently? We've cut a few?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, can we say that?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh yeah, that's fine because like Jake Owens, for example,
we didn't cut Jake because I don't like Jake Jake
was like, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Want a podcast anymore. He's taking too much of a time.
So we did.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We cut a few shows because of reasons like that,
Where do where do we stand now? What are the
shows that are actively on the network that are already running.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Bobby Casts one, four Things with Amy Brown, two, Get
Real with Caroline Hobby three, Sore Losers four, Then we
also have Mike maybe Mike five.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, so those are the five shows that she kind
of inherited, and some others that we like.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Christian Bush. We cut that one, not because we don't
love Christian, he.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Just hadn't put up forever a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And I think at the time podcasting was just like
I don't know. So we have those shows that we've cut,
So now we have five. But how many shows do.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
You think you're, oh, my god, working on?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, either you're at different stages and definitely don't say
who because some of them may not come to fruition
and we hope they all do. But how many shows
do you think you're working on now with people having
conversations or creative meetings or now at a contract stage.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
They are about six that we're working on currently off
the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So almost doubling up. Yeah, and are you yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
How many are at that last stage where we're almost.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
There one for sure, okay?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
How many are at the brand new stage where it's like,
what's up, I'm Morgan, what's your idea?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I would say two of those, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
There are two in that middle section. Correct one that
I think that I think maybe I've even mentioned offhand,
and it's not an official announcement or anything, but I've
posted it. Josie, our friend, my friend, close friend, but
also my vet. We're going to launch a podcast with her.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I think that one's we have all of the episodes banked.
We've talked about doing one or two more for this
first season, and I have a tentative trailer drop date
and a tentative launch date for her.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I guess if we can get the is that official?
Is that one already signed?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's the hold up for and I don't want to
like air anything out.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But be vague.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
The legal stuff is what's taking a while, because we're
recrafting the language, the language for I mean, you've had
language for all of your current pods, and the new
contract is just different so it's in legals hands.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh so it's not even in our hands.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, is Josie being difficult? You tell me no, not
at all. No, I'll call it right now.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Josie has been so I'll fire her and.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'll put my voice in where she's said everything, and
it'll be me doing.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Josie has been wonderful. We are actually just going back
and forth. Yesterday on we finalized her artwork for the
show logo, and so.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're waiting on corporate to get final legal to us.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Uh, you guys are gonna love the Josie Podcast whatever
it is, whenever it comes out. Unless it never comes out,
then it'll be the Bobby That podcast with my voice.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Over Josie's voice.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
No, it's coming out, and in one of the episodes,
then that means I'll interview me.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, yeah, because you are a guest, says, I'll be
a little inceptioning for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So we're very far along with some of these shows
that are going to be really good. But the shows
that are already all working and in production. Are you
going to a lot of the episodes? Yeah, you can't
go to Mike's he does it from his bedrooms.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't go to Mike's because just the setup, it
would be a little weird to show up in his
bedroom every day.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Hey, Kelsey, you know his wife.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
But he's so fine tuned he doesn't really need me.
He's already doing all the things that I'm wanting to
incorporate in the other shows. I have been showing up
to caroline Hobbies Get Real Podcast just about every single
episode because we have changed a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, you built a new set, which built a new.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Set visually, and I have just really been working to
enhance things that she already had. So she wanted some
creative help. Not everybody has wanted that. So I've been
really ameshed with Caroline and that's been great. We've got
a ton of great feedback lately and lots of people
(05:07):
reaching out now wanting to come on her pod now
that we've started doing the visual element of it, which
helps us, yeah, getting great guests. So and then Amy's
I've been going as much as I can for Amy.
She was a little slower to want to do video
and we have gotten started and I.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
She's just so a little hesitant, and we've talked through it,
but baby stepping it and we're getting it done. She's
she's got some on the books that I'm helping her
out with.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
But she doesn't do.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Video for every podcast she does, so I.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Think she just doesn't want to be on camera or something.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I know, my girl, you looks up.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
She's like, I don't know if I look great today.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So those are the shows that you have maybe already
heard on the podcast network. Morgan's also taking control of
the socials of the Nashville Podcast Network, which is a
bit of all the shows. Yes, and then every shows
Instagram and all have youtubes. So but I feel like
it's just been a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It has because I'm still also managing you as well,
so there is a lot going on. I mean, as
we record this, we have the million Dollar Show next week,
which is always a huge undertaking, and there's a lot
of irons in the fire place.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Have you got both paychecks yet? Yeah? But is it awes?
Is it crazy?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It has changed my life. I was able to pay
off my student loan, I was able to pay off
a credit card like and now I'm saving super hard.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So yes, it's like been really great.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean both paychecks, that's crazy. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It won't go this way forever.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know, at one point I.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
May burn out on one of them, or just burn
out in general. Have to pick one.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well, I think once we launch so many shows on
the podcast network, we'll really have to feel out what
makes sense at that point.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean, so you're saying you're leaving me to go
run the podcast network.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I don't want too.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I love which is still me exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But can I say with certainty that that will never
be the case.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
No, I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I can't say that. Maybe in a year we'll feel
like it's time for me to move on.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
How do you feel about Kaitlyn Clark the basketball player?
Do you know another one?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You said Caitlyn? I was thinking your wife, which I
love Caitlyn. I like Kaitlyn Clark a lot. I think
I don't keep up with women's basketball just a ton.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What team just play for?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Iowa?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's awesome, And that was just
a test to see because I don't either.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
She cuts through.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You know, she is more than any other female player
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
All over my TikTok feed, but she's she's opening a
door because now I'm starting to see more content from
other you know, players, So I'm all for her.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I ask I got it Kaitlyn Clark College, like basically
a rookie card I bought it. Yeah, I've been into
this memorabilia thing, maybe a little too much, and this mamurrabilia.
I think we're starting to sell it now.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But it we're basically sitting in a memorabilia closet right now.
The Bobby cast set has turned into that. So yeah,
it's it's extreme.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And yeah, there's a lot. It's a lot. Even my
wife's like, hey, whatever you wanna.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Do, have that woe broke in here?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, don't say that. Why but don' don't even say
you can't break any of their guns in every section
of my yard that will shoot you.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
There are actually land mines in the yard, so you
can try it exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Did you see any of the clips where she's like
cantlea Clark's like, if you like, let's f and go
like we're and people will be like, we don't want
to see an athlete. Have you seen any of that?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Isn't it a bit hypocritical people to say that towards
her whenever A do to it all the time, and
nobody says, dang worried about it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Absolutely, And I feel like a lot of people I've
seen are comparing her to Angel Reese and like if
Angel Reese was doing this, like they'd be so up,
like much more upset. Like I hate that it's just
trying to like pit female players against each other and
one is better than the other. It's like Calen Clark
is amazing, Angel Reese is amazing, and they're competitors and
(09:05):
they're showing up and there's high levels of emotion in
those settings that there was general right it would be
boring to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I love that whomever has fire, even if I don't
like the fire, I'm annoyed by it. Like I love
it because it makes you care.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's texture, and what we always hear is no one
cares about women's basketball. It's not as entertaining as men's is.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
What you hear.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Sure, And I would say the reason is because there's
just as much dunking, Like it's not as fast, and
that's really what it is. Like WNBA gets terrible ratings,
nobody goes to the games.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's very but I would pay for it. Once Caitlyn
Clark is in the league, I'll pay for a ticket
to go see her play.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It takes a transit, transcendent athlete to change it for things,
and I think she'll do that. She'll you know, she's
going She has another year that she could play in college,
but she's gonna go to the draft and she'll probably
be drafted by Indiana's w NBA team because they'll have
the first pick because they were the worst, almost positive.
And I would never know this if it wasn't for
Kaitlyn Clark because I do not follow the WNBA in
anyway whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't even know what states have teams exactly, but
where they play.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I bet you'll know once she's drafted what team she's on,
which I think it's going to be Indiana's team. But yeah,
I really like Caitlyn Clark because she has kind of
opened I won't say the door, but she's kind of
widened what people will spend a couple of minutes on
watching on social media or TIC or ESPN or whatever.
(10:36):
And the reason is because she just shoots the ball
from so far away. I've thinks it a point, well no,
not out of.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Ten Okay, well it feels that way.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
There comes your non basketball coming out. I would I
appointment watched a couple of Caitlin Clark games. I've never
appointment watched a women's basketball.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Games except for a time aside of well.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I would know the games coming on a three, so
I'd be like, oh, I definitely want to watch.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I will play.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I've never done that to any game that wasn't an
Arkansas women's basketball game. And that's happened. That happened last
year with her. Yeah, in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You're tuned in and you want to see what happens
to set a level you don't I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. So I got this card sent today. That's what
that is.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay, are you going to sell it? Are you going
to get her to sign it?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Is it signed?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
No? No, no, it's not signed. Also, I don't know her,
so I don't know how I would get.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Her to sign kitln Are you listening?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I bet you that she has more media requests, oh
for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Then, and she's also the number one nil maker in.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
All of I wonder how much money she's making.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, they just guess because they really don't know how
much people are making in nil money in college, they
can assume they can assign value. I do nil deals
with players, right, and it's such the wild West. Nobody
even knows how much I'm paying them, so you would
not know how much other people are paying them either.
But they speculated she made about three million bucks in
inil deals this year.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Good for her, which is of course. Yeah. All that
means that she can use her name an image.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
She's making more in Nile than she's going to make
in the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Absolutely, she'll make ninety grand a year, one hundred grand
a year. That's two hundred grand a year. Oh yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean not a bad pay, but I mean very
low compared to.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, they have very low amount of people to come out, right,
I get that. I mean if they're just basing it
on the revenue they're making, they actually lose money the WNBA.
They get money from the NBA, yeah, to basically fund
the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Do you think that Caitlin Clark has the appeal that
will shift that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I know, I don't. I don't think there's a single
player that does. But I think that it will get
more eyeballs on it, and then probably allow more young
girls to care about playing basketball. I think it changes
the culture within A bunch of female athletes agree. It
(12:53):
would be like if there were an American soccer player
that were so freaking good that we all were starting
to go, we got we'll call him Jonathan Jones. We
got to watch Jonathan Jones because he's killing folks.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Now, Mary, we don't really care about it. We do care,
we do care, but not really not pop culture. You
don't see a lot of soccer stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Olympics come around, that's cool. MLS does fine, but really
it's a niche. But if there was an American player
that was dominating, like a messy of Ronaldo, you'd have
more people starting to watch and care than you have.
Kids be affected by that and go, oh, I want
to play soccer, and then better athletes would then start
to play soccer and that culture would happen.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Can I tell you something and ask if you felt
this way too, because this kind of proves your point
of she is this kind of player that makes you
think this way. Watching her play, I kind of went
into my mind of like, oh, I wish I had
just gotten into basketball, and.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Like I could have balled hardly.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Imagine you're but three. Imagine you're nine.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Saying that though, Yeah, did you do you ever watch
these players who are so good and then you just
sort of envision yourself in not anymore?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Okay, body hurt me neither neither.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
My body hurts everything you do.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Because you're doing too much access.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what I'm saying. And I know I'm not. I can't.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I've gone to a couple of your too much access
shoots and you're athletic.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But what Okay, I guess I think that was to
be said as a compliment. However, I took it as
an insult.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, you're telling you body is breaking out.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It is because it hurts after forever. But when you're like, wow,
you're athletic, who knew? That's what I heard.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
No, But I'm just saying, like Logan, Logan ry he
I could see the surprise in his eyes when you
ran some drills with him.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I like, oh, yeah, he's got it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I played sports. I don't. I don't even know how
to react, don't how to feel, because.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're just downing yourself and I'm picking you back up.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So my body hurts after I do stuff like My
shoulder still hurts from when we went to Oklahoma State
because I threw so much I got a leg injury.
Nothing heals, I'm not saying. But then you're like, who
knew you athletic?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
God?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Nay, your wife was, but now we know you are too.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Do I just walk into doors?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Am I so clumpy? I should take that as a compliment.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Thank you for the king showed up to your high
school baseball games like I wouldn't have you know, I
think you're.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Athletic, but I still have a presentation.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like in a golf way, like you're good at golf.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But now I'm like, oh, he can ball.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But again, that would mean my presentation of how I
just move my body in general seems to be someone
who is not.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Athletic taking my compliment and making it not a compliment.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So anyway, what else?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I did not expect us to sit down here and
talk about sports.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, I was gonna ask about Caitlyn Clark because I
have this card, and I would say that No, okay,
I would say that I'm a bit of a feminist.
Let's say you're very much a feminist and like a
in like a progressional way, like not a nineteen sixties feminist.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But I think you are very like yo, ladies, let's
do this. Yeah, like stop stop being like your presentation
of being like, oh, I don't know, just a lady.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm a woman. You're like, no, you're a freaking woman.
Let's go Like, I feel like that's kind of your presentation.
Really yeah, I think you're like you represent women with opinions.
Who's not going to be told they shouldn't have that
opinion or they should be quiet about their opinion because
they might not be a dude.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right, It's funny you bring this up like a day
after me and Lunchbox like have just a complete falling out.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So Lunchbox, who, I don't know. We've been together longer
than anybody, eighteen nineteen years at times, which Lunchbox, in
his heart is a nice guy. Is a kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He tends to get angry, like rageful when he competes,
not competitive, but rageful, or when new people come in
and he feels like they're stealing his thunder, or he
has to take any sort of direction from anybody new,
does not like it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
We'll fight it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The video that I saw, I thought was when you
were executive producer or the show. Just at how that
you guys were sitting in the studio, So I thought
it was the old studio where he was like, I
never wanted to do what you told me.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You came in, you didn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I thought that was old because that's how I used
to treat you back in the day. No, that was like, Kim,
that's my whole setup. That's what my mind was. I
need to tell me what happened then.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So where to begin.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Basically a week or so ago, I've been working with
the Sore Losers to try and get them an updated logo. Right,
they've not liked theirs, They've not liked any of the
ones that have been made up to this point. And
I worked with the iHeart team to get them a
logo and send it over to them, and it wasn't good.
And I just texted the guy's logo and said, hey, like,
(17:58):
if you're wanting someone to draw you guys and nail it,
we may have to outsource and pay somebody. And instead
of like giving me proper feedback, like I turned on
the Sore Losers podcast the next day and Lunchbox had
brought it up on their pod and was like, we
get this new Brisren in here, and she said she's
(18:20):
gonna do stuff and then she sends us you know,
and it just wasn't like.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
What was the argue or what was the what was
this issue with you saying what it was?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It was with the logo, But I just felt an
energy about it of like it felt that like there's
some unresolved tension between us and the way he explained
how I brought the logo to them, and I wasn't
making things happen the way he wanted it to.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So another side story is well, first of all, their
logo has been changed, and so they've been using an
abbreviated version of their old logo, right, which I mean
they could have paid somebody one hundred fifcause they actually
make money, their own money based on streams, based on
like there's an investment that goes in to shows. If
they want to put an investment Eddie.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
If not, we it's your choice. We can use in
house people.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's very normal to outsource certain things when you want
something specific.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Uh So I saw their logo of those two little
old guy little men on the basketball And I remember
calling Eddie and I.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Was like, dude, the sort of losers have the greatest logo.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I made that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I had no idea I called that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I called Eddie and I was like, they have the best logo,
Like this is awesome. And then I you had to
somebod of logo and I said, who ever made their
new logo? That's like the coolest logo I've ever seen
for like a basketball logo. And we have our own
Bobbycast logo of a thing out of basketball. We made
the clip art.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, and you were like, I should probably update that.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, I like it because it's old and looks crappy. Okay,
but okay whatever. And I remember saying that logo is
so good, not knowing who made it, why they made it.
I was just a little jealous of the person they
found to make it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
That was literally me mocking something up in Canva to
send to Lunchbox and read to be like, hey, is
this sort of in line with what you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Do they like it?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They did, And then I sent that to iHeart to
mock up a new design, and I don't think they
love the one that iHeart sent back. So we're still
kind of in this limbo stage.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So where did the drama come in with the logo then?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Because I thought I just felt like the first batch
I can show you what it looked like that they
sent wasn't good. And I just kind of felt like
the way that Lunch portrayed it. And maybe I'm wrong
in this, but I like the way that Lunch portrayed
it was that, Oh, we get this president here who's
supposed to be making things happen, and then she can't,
you know, get us a good logo. This is the
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first one they can.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I can you walk it over here? Come in. We're recording,
but you can come in.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, there's okay, okay, is there another one or is
this the only one?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh? He put it up to be like this sucks.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But why is he blaming you and you're the one
that changed the first logo and then send it off
to go?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Can we get some options?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Because he claimed afterwards he wasn't really blaming me, but
the way I felt I was portrayed was definitely not
super positive.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well would have been funny.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What I would have done is I would have said,
we're being forced to use this logo, and I would
have made a big deal about getting people to go
look at the logo, even if I didn't like it, and.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Been like, definitely made a bit out of it. I
just kind of felt like I was in corporate personal.
I felt like there was some residual tension, which is
kind of what comes full circle. And the two days
ago we had a hashing out of the beef kind
of deal.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, well, and then I would have said, Okay, if
we get like ten thousand likes on this face on
this Instagram, that then I would use people get to
Instagram to be followers, and that's we get ten thousand
likes to company says, will make us a new one
and then we can go from it. Yeah, that would
have probably been my strategy to get Instagram followers. I
would have asked for a worse one though, honestly, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That was funny. That was kind of funny. I would say, hey,
can you make this a little worse?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And then I'd been like, the stupid company wouldn't have
talked about you, what are they making us use this image?
I don't want to use it, but if you and
then I would have got to move to social media,
got fallow hallo at likes and then slowly brought out
a better one. But I feel like that didn't happen,
and instead whatever this tension was kind of manifested into
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a fight on air.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, I hit lunchbox in Ray on our group text
after I was like, hey, I heard the BOD today
and I would rather just communicate through your issues rather
than hearing your feedback on the podcast. And basically two
days ago at the studio was the first opportunity lunchbox
and I had to actually speak in person. I was
on air on air like I was grabbing my bags
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and Ray saw me and called me into the studio
and then it just sort of organically went from there
and he he aired his grievances, basically said what grievances
he didn't like. He thought I was disrespectful to him
when I worked on the morning show.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He thought that I on the morning show. Is that
what you're talking about? That that's what That's what happened.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
He I was like, I kind of feel like you
just don't like me. He's like, anybody knew, but I'm
not new anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, no, no, I know I'm sure he that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So I was like, yeah, I just sort of feel tension,
like you don't.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You're younger than him too, and you're the boss.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, And he went into all that of how he
thought I was disrespectful and I mishandled things and I
was a bad choice for that job, and I was too.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Young, and I have a bad choice for the job.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean, he said, I thought you were the
wrong choice for the job, and basically you didn't want
to take He didn't look at me as authority, and
he didn't want to do anything I said. And he
brought up two instances, and one of them I remembered,
and I definitely had a different version of events than
he had and whatever. But the second event I have
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literally no recollection of. I'm not saying that it didn't happen.
I'm just saying I can't. I can't fill in the
blanks of his story. I know the first version of
the story that I could remember, he told about seventy
five percent of it the way I remember in twenty
five percent of important contexts wasn't there. So I just,
you know, we're two people that I butted heads, and
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I want to be on good ground with Lunchbox. Like
I know he's not here to defend himself right now.
Like it's just I think that he has even after
we had that talk. I just sort of feel like
he he harps on how disrespectful I was, but he's
so disrespectful the whole time he's talking to me about
him me being disrespectful. He's like, you didn't deserve the job,
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you're about at it and matter of fact, you're a president.
I don't even know what that means. Like he's kind
of like backcanding what I do now. So it's it's
like just because you don't know what it is, like,
take a.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Breath, man can and they can. We can hear the
whole conversation on their podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh yeah, you can hear it on the podcast. They
also put the video up on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Go check it out. It's our most viewed video.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Of course it is.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, and well, I'm sorry you had to go through that. No,
especially when that's a hey, you have your bag, come here.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And I really truly and I told Lunchboxes, I want
to be on good terms and I want us to
work alongside each other for a common goal. I just
sometimes feel like he he has made up his mind
and that's just where he's going to live. And I
hope we can get past that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What's crazy is you were so the wrong person for
that job when you're executive producing that We became a
massive show under you being executive producer, and then Scooba
got to come in and to go take it to
the next level. But you did such a good job
that I moved you to what I felt was like
a harder job of you having to manage seventy four
(25:29):
things at once, Like our show wouldn't have gone from
level zero to level whatever it was without you being
the executive producer of that show. And that job has
a lot of challenges obstacles that people have no idea about. Yeah, right,
(25:49):
he has the sales. You did such a good job
that you were one of the main reasons the show
survived that terrible first four years.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I that really means a lot to hear you say that,
and I will I will say I wasn't perfect at it.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I was young.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
There were learning curves and I told lunchboxes like I
was young, and I had to learn some things and
how to manage people. But one thing that I'm so
proud of and I know that it was a group
team effort. We won our first CMA award the year
that I stepped in and started, of course, and was
the first time, like I put together the sound check
that we send it, and I know that there's so
many different things that go into that, but I worked
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so hard on the show and so to just have
that moment with Lunchbox a few days ago where he's like, yeah,
you weren't good for it, and like I'm like, man,
like that is just discrediting all of the blood, sweat
and tears I put in. Maybe I wasn't perfect one
hundred percent of the time. Who is, but I'm not
perfect for it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
For what I'm doing, nobody nobody's perfect. So just a
quick under So we Elana transitioned the show over from
Austin to Nashville. She was that version of that producer
when you came in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
She by the way, she trained me on so much.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And you were also an assistant producer as well as
like we just brought you in as executive producer and
like here's somebody who's never been here.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You freaking answered the phones, your assistant. You moved up
the ladder.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
The phone screener. I was doing everything with Elena aside
from just answering phones, and.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
When we took our most growth as a not as
a show that was syndicated a lot of places, but
as a show that actually had some strength to actually
make change in things, it was while you were hosting,
while you were producing the show. So I would just
say that, and I'm the only one that matters here
on this situation that that is just inaccurate. He just
(27:41):
had no idea what you were doing and had probably
a problem with you being younger than him.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah. I think he just kept harping that he didn't
look at me as authority. And I never thought I
was trying to choke down anybody's throat that I was authority.
I think I was just trying to you know, there
were directives I had to give and lead in.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Some cases, which is uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Sometimes it is uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
But anyway, all that to.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Say, go watch, go listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Listen and lunch Box. I hope this doesn't make it
more mad, Like I want to be on good terms.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I feel like and lunch person is a kind guy.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
He has so much good in him.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, but this instance, obviously, but we've talked about
on the show, is a general reality anybody that comes
in new Eddie h More Morgan too.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I mean there's always issues at first, yeah, always, and
lunch always.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
We can go onward and upward, buddy, we can.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, I hope. So you've been focused a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
The first videos ever I saw that you were doing
of them were like they were like, I don't know,
promo videos, Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I don't think they've felt like they've gotten a ton
of attention, and I just want them to feel like
they're important in the mix, because they are.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I would say, but what attention you have to get
your own attention exactly if you're not pushing your own horn,
I mean, you have what attention for anybody Squeaky wheel
Man and not even Squeaky will just go and create
your own path and drive down it that people want
to come and help you.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's what I don't want to happen though. I don't
want him to continue to sort of box me out.
And then I'm like, why I'm not saying box it out?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But even with like i'd give an example like a
to much access, I was just like, screw it. I'm
just gonna go do this. Nobody is gonna let me.
I'm not known as a sports guy. No one's no
sports people are helping me. I'm just gonna go and
beg And I sent Jerry Jones an email out of nowhere.
You just have to go and do crap. Yeah, And
it's just not gonna work for a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
That's my mentality. It's why I set up that separate studio.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It's like, I'm not building to wait.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I'm not gonna wait for.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Someone with you with your own equipment, and.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I just mine.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I bought all that, you know, So I'm just hoping
that everybody else can take a couple of notes in
that and when you want something, just start taking figuring
out the steps and and moving.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And I think they will, and I think this. Go
listen to their podcast. We're trying to drive numbers over
there too, you know, we're building r see and go
check out.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
The oh yeah, so much controversy their video on their podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Reads here too, Read Hey doing Buddy, does your mic work?
He turned on from it?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Check one too, Hello, you don't have.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
To say check one too. You can just say hi,
Hey guys, Hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I'm uploading the DraftKings Network episode that's going up today?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Video? Oh the TV show?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, the TV show?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, got it? Your WiFi I didn't work at home,
so it's weird.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
I have to upload it to their network. And for
some reason, on my wife on my WiFi it says
access denied, but it works for your wife.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are you doing it now? Yeah? What do you think
about Morgan?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I love Morgan.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
As soon as I came in, she was so nice
to me and today, well yeah today specifically.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, just today, never before now.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
No, She's always been great to me, and she made
me feel comfortable joining the crew and everything like that.
And I could just tell she worked hard from the
beginning too. I could tell she was like she was
relaxing and helps people, but she's also a go getter
and motivated.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Did you read Did you getting a sleep last night?
I did? Yeah? You look arrested? Do Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You like?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Are you still asleep? Actually?
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
How late you sleep?
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I slept until eight thirty?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh that's good, that's all right? Then it felt good, Yeah,
it felt real good.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, Well, read what has been your experience working in
this organization in general? Because you do a lot, right,
I mean, you're sometimes you're up helping in the morning show,
even obviously shooting the podcast, shooting too much access, Like
what did you expect whenever you got the job versus
what's happening now?
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Honestly, I didn't really know what to expect, which I
kind of liked that aspect because I knew I dabbled
in a bunch of different areas creatively, like photography and
videography and photoshop and all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So I was.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Ready to dive into whatever you needed me to do.
But the greatest thing has been the problem solving. It's like,
I feel like I'm always having to figure new things
out and be quick with figuring those things out and
putting out the content quickly and stuff like that. So
that's been the best, I guess, the best help for
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me to build myself up because.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
For your next job, for your resume.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Exactly, yeah, no, no, no for me because, like you know,
doing stuff on my own timeline and stuff like that,
I'm not really like I'm just kind of in my
own head. But when it comes to somebody else and
trying to perfect what they see. Like you know, you
coming at me with with the different edits and stuff
like that.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
You just see things in your head.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
How you want them, and I want them to be
how you imagine them in your head.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What's been the hardest part about the job?
Speaker 7 (32:52):
I would say I would say the not having a
perfect st ructure of work. How it's just it could,
like the schedule could change at any moment in time,
so not basically just not being able to like no
(33:12):
at a certain time I'm gonna be done working to
make a plan for something else. Even though most of
the time, all the time I ask you if I
could do something.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
You're like, yeah, go for it, But mainly just.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
To worry that I'm going to make a plan and
then something big is going to happen and I'm gonna
have to like say no to somebody or something like that,
like a firefighter.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
He checked in with me two solid months before his
proposal to Maddie to just make sure we could block
those dates.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, and then it came up on my calendar. It
was like secret to read top secret. Read you like you, John.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
I freaking love my job, dude, it is the greatest
thing ever. I've the connections I've got to make, the
things I've got to do in traveling and and just
I feel like I am able to put all the
work that I put in as a kid and about
high school and stuff like that. I'm able to actually
like justify myself by showing what I can do with
this job because a lot of people are able to
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see my work and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
So it's, man, it's been a huge blessing.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
What's Eddie like behind the scenes?
Speaker 7 (34:13):
So at first, I had no idea Eddie was Hispanic.
Like I grew up listening to y'all on the.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Radio show That's where You Start. I know, well, it's one.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
The thing is, Eddie just said a couple of days ago,
people think he's white with it before they see him.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Yeah, it's wild, like you know, going to school in
college and stuff. I would listen to you guys, and
I had no idea that Eddie was Hispanic. So I first,
I first, when I first saw him, he introduced himself
and I recognized his voice and he said, Eddie. I
was like, man, you're different than than I imagined you looking.
But Eddie is amazing He's also one of those guys
that will just make you feel right at home and
(34:48):
just great personality and just super super happy all the time.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I don't think I've ever seen him, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I'm telling you, and I have, but it's my best friend,
and I've seen him like go through the little struggles.
But he's like the most arrow pointing up dude I've
ever met. Yeah, like consistently, he's just like all right, yeah,
let's just go.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Like it could be a rough morning. We had just
flown from somewhere. I got back earlier, and he's like,
what's up.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Breed, And we'll cut this in a second. But what
about Kevin.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Kevin is really awesome as well.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
He he was a good one because he kind of
came in around the same time I did, so we
were both kind of new and we hit it off
that way. But Kevin is just man. Kevin's a go getter.
You can tell. He's just he's motivated to do anything
and everything that he puts his mind.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
To, steady solid, like everyal foundation and it's like, hey,
let's track this down. And god dang, he's gonna track
him down or he's going to die. Try like he
figured stuff out in a different way.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Mike D.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Mike D, like you always say, he's a silent assassin man.
He's like he's always problem solving and if any of
us run into any situation, he's always got the right answer.
He's always the guy that's putting things together and making
sure they run smoothly. But Mike D is also just
also very positive and genuine. He just doesn't speak up
(36:13):
most of the time.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Or speak at all. Yeah at all, I remember speak he.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
This is also kind of when I started, I guess
y'all for the show. Got tickets to the the wrestling
event that was at Nissan Stadium, and of course not
many people were going, but he hit me up and
he's like, hey, I got tickets to this, Like would
you want to go?
Speaker 6 (36:31):
And I was like, yeah, of course.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
So me and Mike de went and watched some wrestling
at Nissan Stadium and it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's an unfair question. I'm sitting in front of you,
what did you not? It's a tough one cause I'm
not just gonna go what about me? Because that's all
glowing and amazing obviously, because you have to say that
I'm your boss. What did you what's different about what?
What expect actation did you have versus the reality?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
I will say I was expecting you to be very
very intimidating and very like like if you screw up once,
like you better figure it out or else.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's five years ago me. So you got in.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, you got it, that's what That's what people said.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
They're like, man after after he married Caitlin, he's different.
And so that that probably was my big expectation when
I when I would screw up something or miss missing
edit or something like that, I'd be like, oh, boy,
like I'm probably about to be grilled on this. And
and you know, I mean you you you let me
know when I need to be more careful on things.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
And but you know you're you're gentle. You know.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I don't have an expectation of anybody that don't have
on myself for sure, which is also unhealthy because I'd
be like, you can't screw up. Also to myself be
like you can't screw up, loser. Then I beat myself
with the belt over my back, but the buckle parts.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah, but you also recognize, like we all make.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Mistakes, especially in an art driven world where you're having Yes,
real tried to like made me lose money. I paid
a manager for you last night. I'm going to I'm
going to conclude with this. Uh Reid and I are doing.
Are they trying to sell all this stuff back on
eBay because we're shooting a docuseries on memorabilia and reads like, Okay,
let's post the Peyton Many Jersey posted George Kittle and said, Okay,
(38:18):
how much are they going for an eBay? Like, let's
just figure out and we'll just fairly list them. And
he goes, Peyton Manning five hundred, George Kittle three hundred.
And I thought to myself, well that seems a little cheap.
So I went and look myself and I was like,
Peyton Manny Clost for like nine hundred or one thousand,
and George Kittle and I'm like, read, you cost me
like five hundred bucks?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah, I missed the custom uh the customs.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So then I beat him with the belt. Had to
come over and I beat him with the belt. Yeah. Okay, Morgan,
keep up the good work. This is our official announcement.
Morgan is the president of the network. Also our official
announcement that read, if you missed it.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Had the cops called.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
On him because he went up to the wrong old
guy and wanted to thank you for paying for his
meal earlier, when it wasn't the same old guy.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
It wasn't a thank you, it was he said that
he was handicapped and he couldn't go in and order.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
And then I see him walking around the mall.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Guess what not the same old guy, probably not, most
likely not.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You. You wanted the smoke after that, You're like, sir, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, really he did.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Just wanted him to admit, but the guy couldn't admit
it because people never said he was handicaps on the
same guy.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Was he like, sir, we've never met tell you what
he said?
Speaker 7 (39:28):
No, that's what I expected, but he was just like
I started to talk about it, and he was just
like nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
As you started like running away, I.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Thought Reader was like trying to scam him or something.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I would too, me too, like it was a superall
and child.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
I took that as, oh, this is the guy for sure,
he's trying to run.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Which wasn't the case. I don't think Read.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I would never in a million years see you being
the person seeking out some controversy.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
But to be fair, my dad was like, you should
go up and just see if that's him.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I was like, it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
He put on his dad. Now, okay, thank you all.
There's the uh this is our announcement. Read is now
the president of selling Peyton Manning jerseys for cheap and
Morgan the official president which he has been now for
months of the Nashville podcast Network, which I think we're
gonna end up changing the name of.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Anyway, we need to talk about that list of names.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
But one of them she wants to call if you
have you heard the new nickname. No, she wants to
name the network reads Network. I like that or just
read that spelled r E A D.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, exactly with the photo of readers of you reading
a book. All right, we got to go.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Thank you Byboddy, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast
production
So I'm at the home studio with Morgan. Who's Morgan
number one? Who is we have? I guess of officially,
even though we've talked about it a bunch of times,
announced that you're now president of the podcast network?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Have we I mean, we did.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
A social post, but we haven't actually, like I haven't
said you haven't come.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Out and said, hey, this is what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, I guess you posted on social I'm a president. Yeah,
where's my Monica Lewinski?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Exactly? I haven't found one yet.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So so okay, so this is kind of our official
conversation about that where we have a bunch of shows
on the network. We have a bunch of shows that
we're developing now through the network. And the network started off,
I was just doing the Bobby Cast, and I mean
it was like two or three shows and it kind
of interwebbed them together and then I got to eight.
(00:55):
I don't even know how many shows we have right now,
Like when you walked in, what do we have?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
We currently? We've cut a few?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, can we say that?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh yeah, that's fine because like Jake Owens, for example,
we didn't cut Jake because I don't like Jake Jake
was like, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Want a podcast anymore. He's taking too much of a time.
So we did.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We cut a few shows because of reasons like that,
Where do where do we stand now? What are the
shows that are actively on the network that are already running.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Bobby Casts one, four Things with Amy Brown, two, Get
Real with Caroline Hobby three, Sore Losers four, Then we
also have Mike maybe Mike five.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, so those are the five shows that she kind
of inherited, and some others that we like.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Christian Bush. We cut that one, not because we don't
love Christian, he.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Just hadn't put up forever a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And I think at the time podcasting was just like
I don't know. So we have those shows that we've cut,
So now we have five. But how many shows do.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
You think you're, oh, my god, working on?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, either you're at different stages and definitely don't say
who because some of them may not come to fruition
and we hope they all do. But how many shows
do you think you're working on now with people having
conversations or creative meetings or now at a contract stage.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
They are about six that we're working on currently off
the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So almost doubling up. Yeah, and are you yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
How many are at that last stage where we're almost.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
There one for sure, okay?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
How many are at the brand new stage where it's like,
what's up, I'm Morgan, what's your idea?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I would say two of those, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
There are two in that middle section. Correct one that
I think that I think maybe I've even mentioned offhand,
and it's not an official announcement or anything, but I've
posted it. Josie, our friend, my friend, close friend, but
also my vet. We're going to launch a podcast with her.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I think that one's we have all of the episodes banked.
We've talked about doing one or two more for this
first season, and I have a tentative trailer drop date
and a tentative launch date for her.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I guess if we can get the is that official?
Is that one already signed?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's the hold up for and I don't want to
like air anything out.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But be vague.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
The legal stuff is what's taking a while, because we're
recrafting the language, the language for I mean, you've had
language for all of your current pods, and the new
contract is just different so it's in legals hands.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh so it's not even in our hands.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, is Josie being difficult? You tell me no, not
at all. No, I'll call it right now.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Josie has been so I'll fire her and.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'll put my voice in where she's said everything, and
it'll be me doing.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Josie has been wonderful. We are actually just going back
and forth. Yesterday on we finalized her artwork for the
show logo, and so.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're waiting on corporate to get final legal to us.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Uh, you guys are gonna love the Josie Podcast whatever
it is, whenever it comes out. Unless it never comes out,
then it'll be the Bobby That podcast with my voice.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Over Josie's voice.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
No, it's coming out, and in one of the episodes,
then that means I'll interview me.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, yeah, because you are a guest, says, I'll be
a little inceptioning for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So we're very far along with some of these shows
that are going to be really good. But the shows
that are already all working and in production. Are you
going to a lot of the episodes? Yeah, you can't
go to Mike's he does it from his bedrooms.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't go to Mike's because just the setup, it
would be a little weird to show up in his
bedroom every day.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Hey, Kelsey, you know his wife.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
But he's so fine tuned he doesn't really need me.
He's already doing all the things that I'm wanting to
incorporate in the other shows. I have been showing up
to caroline Hobbies Get Real Podcast just about every single
episode because we have changed a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, you built a new set, which built a new.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Set visually, and I have just really been working to
enhance things that she already had. So she wanted some
creative help. Not everybody has wanted that. So I've been
really ameshed with Caroline and that's been great. We've got
a ton of great feedback lately and lots of people
(05:07):
reaching out now wanting to come on her pod now
that we've started doing the visual element of it, which
helps us, yeah, getting great guests. So and then Amy's
I've been going as much as I can for Amy.
She was a little slower to want to do video
and we have gotten started and I.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
She's just so a little hesitant, and we've talked through it,
but baby stepping it and we're getting it done. She's
she's got some on the books that I'm helping her
out with.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
But she doesn't do.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Video for every podcast she does, so I.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Think she just doesn't want to be on camera or something.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I know, my girl, you looks up.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
She's like, I don't know if I look great today.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So those are the shows that you have maybe already
heard on the podcast network. Morgan's also taking control of
the socials of the Nashville Podcast Network, which is a
bit of all the shows. Yes, and then every shows
Instagram and all have youtubes. So but I feel like
it's just been a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It has because I'm still also managing you as well,
so there is a lot going on. I mean, as
we record this, we have the million Dollar Show next week,
which is always a huge undertaking, and there's a lot
of irons in the fire place.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Have you got both paychecks yet? Yeah? But is it awes?
Is it crazy?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It has changed my life. I was able to pay
off my student loan, I was able to pay off
a credit card like and now I'm saving super hard.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So yes, it's like been really great.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean both paychecks, that's crazy. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It won't go this way forever.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know, at one point I.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
May burn out on one of them, or just burn
out in general. Have to pick one.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well, I think once we launch so many shows on
the podcast network, we'll really have to feel out what
makes sense at that point.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean, so you're saying you're leaving me to go
run the podcast network.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I don't want too.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I love which is still me exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But can I say with certainty that that will never
be the case.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
No, I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I can't say that. Maybe in a year we'll feel
like it's time for me to move on.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
How do you feel about Kaitlyn Clark the basketball player?
Do you know another one?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You said Caitlyn? I was thinking your wife, which I
love Caitlyn. I like Kaitlyn Clark a lot. I think
I don't keep up with women's basketball just a ton.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What team just play for?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Iowa?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's awesome, And that was just
a test to see because I don't either.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
She cuts through.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You know, she is more than any other female player
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
All over my TikTok feed, but she's she's opening a
door because now I'm starting to see more content from
other you know, players, So I'm all for her.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I ask I got it Kaitlyn Clark College, like basically
a rookie card I bought it. Yeah, I've been into
this memorabilia thing, maybe a little too much, and this mamurrabilia.
I think we're starting to sell it now.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But it we're basically sitting in a memorabilia closet right now.
The Bobby cast set has turned into that. So yeah,
it's it's extreme.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And yeah, there's a lot. It's a lot. Even my
wife's like, hey, whatever you wanna.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Do, have that woe broke in here?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, don't say that. Why but don' don't even say
you can't break any of their guns in every section
of my yard that will shoot you.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
There are actually land mines in the yard, so you
can try it exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Did you see any of the clips where she's like
cantlea Clark's like, if you like, let's f and go
like we're and people will be like, we don't want
to see an athlete. Have you seen any of that?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Isn't it a bit hypocritical people to say that towards
her whenever A do to it all the time, and
nobody says, dang worried about it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Absolutely, And I feel like a lot of people I've
seen are comparing her to Angel Reese and like if
Angel Reese was doing this, like they'd be so up,
like much more upset. Like I hate that it's just
trying to like pit female players against each other and
one is better than the other. It's like Calen Clark
is amazing, Angel Reese is amazing, and they're competitors and
(09:05):
they're showing up and there's high levels of emotion in
those settings that there was general right it would be
boring to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I love that whomever has fire, even if I don't
like the fire, I'm annoyed by it. Like I love
it because it makes you care.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's texture, and what we always hear is no one
cares about women's basketball. It's not as entertaining as men's is.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
What you hear.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Sure, And I would say the reason is because there's
just as much dunking, Like it's not as fast, and
that's really what it is. Like WNBA gets terrible ratings,
nobody goes to the games.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's very but I would pay for it. Once Caitlyn
Clark is in the league, I'll pay for a ticket
to go see her play.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It takes a transit, transcendent athlete to change it for things,
and I think she'll do that. She'll you know, she's
going She has another year that she could play in college,
but she's gonna go to the draft and she'll probably
be drafted by Indiana's w NBA team because they'll have
the first pick because they were the worst, almost positive.
And I would never know this if it wasn't for
Kaitlyn Clark because I do not follow the WNBA in
anyway whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't even know what states have teams exactly, but
where they play.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I bet you'll know once she's drafted what team she's on,
which I think it's going to be Indiana's team. But yeah,
I really like Caitlyn Clark because she has kind of
opened I won't say the door, but she's kind of
widened what people will spend a couple of minutes on
watching on social media or TIC or ESPN or whatever.
(10:36):
And the reason is because she just shoots the ball
from so far away. I've thinks it a point, well no,
not out of.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Ten Okay, well it feels that way.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
There comes your non basketball coming out. I would I
appointment watched a couple of Caitlin Clark games. I've never
appointment watched a women's basketball.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Games except for a time aside of well.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I would know the games coming on a three, so
I'd be like, oh, I definitely want to watch.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I will play.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I've never done that to any game that wasn't an
Arkansas women's basketball game. And that's happened. That happened last
year with her. Yeah, in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You're tuned in and you want to see what happens
to set a level you don't I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. So I got this card sent today. That's what
that is.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay, are you going to sell it? Are you going
to get her to sign it?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Is it signed?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
No? No, no, it's not signed. Also, I don't know her,
so I don't know how I would get.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Her to sign kitln Are you listening?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I bet you that she has more media requests, oh
for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Then, and she's also the number one nil maker in.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
All of I wonder how much money she's making.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, they just guess because they really don't know how
much people are making in nil money in college, they
can assume they can assign value. I do nil deals
with players, right, and it's such the wild West. Nobody
even knows how much I'm paying them, so you would
not know how much other people are paying them either.
But they speculated she made about three million bucks in
inil deals this year.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Good for her, which is of course. Yeah. All that
means that she can use her name an image.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
She's making more in Nile than she's going to make
in the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Absolutely, she'll make ninety grand a year, one hundred grand
a year. That's two hundred grand a year. Oh yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean not a bad pay, but I mean very
low compared to.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, they have very low amount of people to come out, right,
I get that. I mean if they're just basing it
on the revenue they're making, they actually lose money the WNBA.
They get money from the NBA, yeah, to basically fund
the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Do you think that Caitlin Clark has the appeal that
will shift that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I know, I don't. I don't think there's a single
player that does. But I think that it will get
more eyeballs on it, and then probably allow more young
girls to care about playing basketball. I think it changes
the culture within A bunch of female athletes agree. It
(12:53):
would be like if there were an American soccer player
that were so freaking good that we all were starting
to go, we got we'll call him Jonathan Jones. We
got to watch Jonathan Jones because he's killing folks.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Now, Mary, we don't really care about it. We do care,
we do care, but not really not pop culture. You
don't see a lot of soccer stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Olympics come around, that's cool. MLS does fine, but really
it's a niche. But if there was an American player
that was dominating, like a messy of Ronaldo, you'd have
more people starting to watch and care than you have.
Kids be affected by that and go, oh, I want
to play soccer, and then better athletes would then start
to play soccer and that culture would happen.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Can I tell you something and ask if you felt
this way too, because this kind of proves your point
of she is this kind of player that makes you
think this way. Watching her play, I kind of went
into my mind of like, oh, I wish I had
just gotten into basketball, and.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Like I could have balled hardly.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Imagine you're but three. Imagine you're nine.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Saying that though, Yeah, did you do you ever watch
these players who are so good and then you just
sort of envision yourself in not anymore?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Okay, body hurt me neither neither.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
My body hurts everything you do.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Because you're doing too much access.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what I'm saying. And I know I'm not. I can't.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I've gone to a couple of your too much access
shoots and you're athletic.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But what Okay, I guess I think that was to
be said as a compliment. However, I took it as
an insult.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, you're telling you body is breaking out.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It is because it hurts after forever. But when you're like, wow,
you're athletic, who knew? That's what I heard.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
No, But I'm just saying, like Logan, Logan ry he
I could see the surprise in his eyes when you
ran some drills with him.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I like, oh, yeah, he's got it.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I played sports. I don't. I don't even know how
to react, don't how to feel, because.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're just downing yourself and I'm picking you back up.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So my body hurts after I do stuff like My
shoulder still hurts from when we went to Oklahoma State
because I threw so much I got a leg injury.
Nothing heals, I'm not saying. But then you're like, who
knew you athletic?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
God?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Nay, your wife was, but now we know you are too.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Do I just walk into doors?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Am I so clumpy? I should take that as a compliment.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Thank you for the king showed up to your high
school baseball games like I wouldn't have you know, I
think you're.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Athletic, but I still have a presentation.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like in a golf way, like you're good at golf.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But now I'm like, oh, he can ball.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But again, that would mean my presentation of how I
just move my body in general seems to be someone
who is not.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Athletic taking my compliment and making it not a compliment.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
So anyway, what else?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I did not expect us to sit down here and
talk about sports.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, I was gonna ask about Caitlyn Clark because I
have this card, and I would say that No, okay,
I would say that I'm a bit of a feminist.
Let's say you're very much a feminist and like a
in like a progressional way, like not a nineteen sixties feminist.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But I think you are very like yo, ladies, let's
do this. Yeah, like stop stop being like your presentation
of being like, oh, I don't know, just a lady.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm a woman. You're like, no, you're a freaking woman.
Let's go Like, I feel like that's kind of your presentation.
Really yeah, I think you're like you represent women with opinions.
Who's not going to be told they shouldn't have that
opinion or they should be quiet about their opinion because
they might not be a dude.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right, It's funny you bring this up like a day
after me and Lunchbox like have just a complete falling out.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So Lunchbox, who, I don't know. We've been together longer
than anybody, eighteen nineteen years at times, which Lunchbox, in
his heart is a nice guy. Is a kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He tends to get angry, like rageful when he competes,
not competitive, but rageful, or when new people come in
and he feels like they're stealing his thunder, or he
has to take any sort of direction from anybody new,
does not like it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
We'll fight it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The video that I saw, I thought was when you
were executive producer or the show. Just at how that
you guys were sitting in the studio, So I thought
it was the old studio where he was like, I
never wanted to do what you told me.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You came in, you didn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I thought that was old because that's how I used
to treat you back in the day. No, that was like, Kim,
that's my whole setup. That's what my mind was. I
need to tell me what happened then.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So where to begin.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Basically a week or so ago, I've been working with
the Sore Losers to try and get them an updated logo. Right,
they've not liked theirs, They've not liked any of the
ones that have been made up to this point. And
I worked with the iHeart team to get them a
logo and send it over to them, and it wasn't good.
And I just texted the guy's logo and said, hey, like,
(17:58):
if you're wanting someone to draw you guys and nail it,
we may have to outsource and pay somebody. And instead
of like giving me proper feedback, like I turned on
the Sore Losers podcast the next day and Lunchbox had
brought it up on their pod and was like, we
get this new Brisren in here, and she said she's
(18:20):
gonna do stuff and then she sends us you know,
and it just wasn't like.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
What was the argue or what was the what was
this issue with you saying what it was?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It was with the logo, But I just felt an
energy about it of like it felt that like there's
some unresolved tension between us and the way he explained
how I brought the logo to them, and I wasn't
making things happen the way he wanted it to.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So another side story is well, first of all, their
logo has been changed, and so they've been using an
abbreviated version of their old logo, right, which I mean
they could have paid somebody one hundred fifcause they actually
make money, their own money based on streams, based on
like there's an investment that goes in to shows. If
they want to put an investment Eddie.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
If not, we it's your choice. We can use in
house people.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's very normal to outsource certain things when you want
something specific.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Uh So I saw their logo of those two little
old guy little men on the basketball And I remember
calling Eddie and I.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Was like, dude, the sort of losers have the greatest logo.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I made that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I had no idea I called that.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I called Eddie and I was like, they have the best logo,
Like this is awesome. And then I you had to
somebod of logo and I said, who ever made their
new logo? That's like the coolest logo I've ever seen
for like a basketball logo. And we have our own
Bobbycast logo of a thing out of basketball. We made
the clip art.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, and you were like, I should probably update that.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, I like it because it's old and looks crappy. Okay,
but okay whatever. And I remember saying that logo is
so good, not knowing who made it, why they made it.
I was just a little jealous of the person they
found to make it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
That was literally me mocking something up in Canva to
send to Lunchbox and read to be like, hey, is
this sort of in line with what you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Do they like it?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They did, And then I sent that to iHeart to
mock up a new design, and I don't think they
love the one that iHeart sent back. So we're still
kind of in this limbo stage.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So where did the drama come in with the logo then?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Because I thought I just felt like the first batch
I can show you what it looked like that they
sent wasn't good. And I just kind of felt like
the way that Lunch portrayed it. And maybe I'm wrong
in this, but I like the way that Lunch portrayed
it was that, Oh, we get this president here who's
supposed to be making things happen, and then she can't,
you know, get us a good logo. This is the
(20:34):
first one they can.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I can you walk it over here? Come in. We're recording,
but you can come in.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, there's okay, okay, is there another one or is
this the only one?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh? He put it up to be like this sucks.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But why is he blaming you and you're the one
that changed the first logo and then send it off
to go?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Can we get some options?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Because he claimed afterwards he wasn't really blaming me, but
the way I felt I was portrayed was definitely not
super positive.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well would have been funny.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What I would have done is I would have said,
we're being forced to use this logo, and I would
have made a big deal about getting people to go
look at the logo, even if I didn't like it, and.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Been like, definitely made a bit out of it. I
just kind of felt like I was in corporate personal.
I felt like there was some residual tension, which is
kind of what comes full circle. And the two days
ago we had a hashing out of the beef kind
of deal.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, well, and then I would have said, Okay, if
we get like ten thousand likes on this face on
this Instagram, that then I would use people get to
Instagram to be followers, and that's we get ten thousand
likes to company says, will make us a new one
and then we can go from it. Yeah, that would
have probably been my strategy to get Instagram followers. I
would have asked for a worse one though, honestly, yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That was funny. That was kind of funny. I would say, hey,
can you make this a little worse?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And then I'd been like, the stupid company wouldn't have
talked about you, what are they making us use this image?
I don't want to use it, but if you and
then I would have got to move to social media,
got fallow hallo at likes and then slowly brought out
a better one. But I feel like that didn't happen,
and instead whatever this tension was kind of manifested into
(22:09):
a fight on air.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, I hit lunchbox in Ray on our group text
after I was like, hey, I heard the BOD today
and I would rather just communicate through your issues rather
than hearing your feedback on the podcast. And basically two
days ago at the studio was the first opportunity lunchbox
and I had to actually speak in person. I was
on air on air like I was grabbing my bags
(22:32):
and Ray saw me and called me into the studio
and then it just sort of organically went from there
and he he aired his grievances, basically said what grievances
he didn't like. He thought I was disrespectful to him
when I worked on the morning show.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He thought that I on the morning show. Is that
what you're talking about? That that's what That's what happened.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
He I was like, I kind of feel like you
just don't like me. He's like, anybody knew, but I'm
not new anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, no, no, I know I'm sure he that.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So I was like, yeah, I just sort of feel tension,
like you don't.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You're younger than him too, and you're the boss.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, And he went into all that of how he
thought I was disrespectful and I mishandled things and I
was a bad choice for that job, and I was too.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Young, and I have a bad choice for the job.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean, he said, I thought you were the
wrong choice for the job, and basically you didn't want
to take He didn't look at me as authority, and
he didn't want to do anything I said. And he
brought up two instances, and one of them I remembered,
and I definitely had a different version of events than
he had and whatever. But the second event I have
(23:37):
literally no recollection of. I'm not saying that it didn't happen.
I'm just saying I can't. I can't fill in the
blanks of his story. I know the first version of
the story that I could remember, he told about seventy
five percent of it the way I remember in twenty
five percent of important contexts wasn't there. So I just,
you know, we're two people that I butted heads, and
(24:00):
I want to be on good ground with Lunchbox. Like
I know he's not here to defend himself right now.
Like it's just I think that he has even after
we had that talk. I just sort of feel like
he he harps on how disrespectful I was, but he's
so disrespectful the whole time he's talking to me about
him me being disrespectful. He's like, you didn't deserve the job,
(24:21):
you're about at it and matter of fact, you're a president.
I don't even know what that means. Like he's kind
of like backcanding what I do now. So it's it's
like just because you don't know what it is, like,
take a.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Breath, man can and they can. We can hear the
whole conversation on their podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh yeah, you can hear it on the podcast. They
also put the video up on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Go check it out. It's our most viewed video.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Of course it is.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, and well, I'm sorry you had to go through that. No,
especially when that's a hey, you have your bag, come here.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And I really truly and I told Lunchboxes, I want
to be on good terms and I want us to
work alongside each other for a common goal. I just
sometimes feel like he he has made up his mind
and that's just where he's going to live. And I
hope we can get past that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
What's crazy is you were so the wrong person for
that job when you're executive producing that We became a
massive show under you being executive producer, and then Scooba
got to come in and to go take it to
the next level. But you did such a good job
that I moved you to what I felt was like
a harder job of you having to manage seventy four
(25:29):
things at once, Like our show wouldn't have gone from
level zero to level whatever it was without you being
the executive producer of that show. And that job has
a lot of challenges obstacles that people have no idea about. Yeah, right,
(25:49):
he has the sales. You did such a good job
that you were one of the main reasons the show
survived that terrible first four years.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I that really means a lot to hear you say that,
and I will I will say I wasn't perfect at it.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I was young.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
There were learning curves and I told lunchboxes like I
was young, and I had to learn some things and
how to manage people. But one thing that I'm so
proud of and I know that it was a group
team effort. We won our first CMA award the year
that I stepped in and started, of course, and was
the first time, like I put together the sound check
that we send it, and I know that there's so
many different things that go into that, but I worked
(26:29):
so hard on the show and so to just have
that moment with Lunchbox a few days ago where he's like, yeah,
you weren't good for it, and like I'm like, man,
like that is just discrediting all of the blood, sweat
and tears I put in. Maybe I wasn't perfect one
hundred percent of the time. Who is, but I'm not
perfect for it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
For what I'm doing, nobody nobody's perfect. So just a
quick under So we Elana transitioned the show over from
Austin to Nashville. She was that version of that producer
when you came in.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
She by the way, she trained me on so much.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And you were also an assistant producer as well as
like we just brought you in as executive producer and
like here's somebody who's never been here.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You freaking answered the phones, your assistant. You moved up
the ladder.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
The phone screener. I was doing everything with Elena aside
from just answering phones, and.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
When we took our most growth as a not as
a show that was syndicated a lot of places, but
as a show that actually had some strength to actually
make change in things, it was while you were hosting,
while you were producing the show. So I would just
say that, and I'm the only one that matters here
on this situation that that is just inaccurate. He just
(27:41):
had no idea what you were doing and had probably
a problem with you being younger than him.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah. I think he just kept harping that he didn't
look at me as authority. And I never thought I
was trying to choke down anybody's throat that I was authority.
I think I was just trying to you know, there
were directives I had to give and lead in.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Some cases, which is uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Sometimes it is uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
But anyway, all that to.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Say, go watch, go listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Listen and lunch Box. I hope this doesn't make it
more mad, Like I want to be on good terms.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I feel like and lunch person is a kind guy.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
He has so much good in him.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, but this instance, obviously, but we've talked about
on the show, is a general reality anybody that comes
in new Eddie h More Morgan too.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I mean there's always issues at first, yeah, always, and
lunch always.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
We can go onward and upward, buddy, we can.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, I hope. So you've been focused a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
The first videos ever I saw that you were doing
of them were like they were like, I don't know,
promo videos, Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I don't think they've felt like they've gotten a ton
of attention, and I just want them to feel like
they're important in the mix, because they are.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I would say, but what attention you have to get
your own attention exactly if you're not pushing your own horn,
I mean, you have what attention for anybody Squeaky wheel
Man and not even Squeaky will just go and create
your own path and drive down it that people want
to come and help you.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's what I don't want to happen though. I don't
want him to continue to sort of box me out.
And then I'm like, why I'm not saying box it out?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But even with like i'd give an example like a
to much access, I was just like, screw it. I'm
just gonna go do this. Nobody is gonna let me.
I'm not known as a sports guy. No one's no
sports people are helping me. I'm just gonna go and
beg And I sent Jerry Jones an email out of nowhere.
You just have to go and do crap. Yeah, And
it's just not gonna work for a long time.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
That's my mentality. It's why I set up that separate studio.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It's like, I'm not building to wait.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I'm not gonna wait for.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Someone with you with your own equipment, and.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I just mine.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I bought all that, you know, So I'm just hoping
that everybody else can take a couple of notes in
that and when you want something, just start taking figuring
out the steps and and moving.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And I think they will, and I think this. Go
listen to their podcast. We're trying to drive numbers over
there too, you know, we're building r see and go
check out.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
The oh yeah, so much controversy their video on their podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Reads here too, Read Hey doing Buddy, does your mic work?
He turned on from it?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Check one too, Hello, you don't have.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
To say check one too. You can just say hi,
Hey guys, Hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I'm uploading the DraftKings Network episode that's going up today?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Video? Oh the TV show?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, the TV show?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, got it? Your WiFi I didn't work at home,
so it's weird.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
I have to upload it to their network. And for
some reason, on my wife on my WiFi it says
access denied, but it works for your wife.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are you doing it now? Yeah? What do you think
about Morgan?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I love Morgan.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
As soon as I came in, she was so nice
to me and today, well yeah today specifically.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, just today, never before now.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
No, She's always been great to me, and she made
me feel comfortable joining the crew and everything like that.
And I could just tell she worked hard from the
beginning too. I could tell she was like she was
relaxing and helps people, but she's also a go getter
and motivated.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Did you read Did you getting a sleep last night?
I did? Yeah? You look arrested? Do Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You like?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Are you still asleep? Actually?
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
How late you sleep?
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I slept until eight thirty?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh that's good, that's all right? Then it felt good, Yeah,
it felt real good.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, Well, read what has been your experience working in
this organization in general? Because you do a lot, right,
I mean, you're sometimes you're up helping in the morning show,
even obviously shooting the podcast, shooting too much access, Like
what did you expect whenever you got the job versus
what's happening now?
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Honestly, I didn't really know what to expect, which I
kind of liked that aspect because I knew I dabbled
in a bunch of different areas creatively, like photography and
videography and photoshop and all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So I was.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Ready to dive into whatever you needed me to do.
But the greatest thing has been the problem solving. It's like,
I feel like I'm always having to figure new things
out and be quick with figuring those things out and
putting out the content quickly and stuff like that. So
that's been the best, I guess, the best help for
(32:21):
me to build myself up because.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
For your next job, for your resume.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Exactly, yeah, no, no, no for me because, like you know,
doing stuff on my own timeline and stuff like that,
I'm not really like I'm just kind of in my
own head. But when it comes to somebody else and
trying to perfect what they see. Like you know, you
coming at me with with the different edits and stuff
like that.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
You just see things in your head.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
How you want them, and I want them to be
how you imagine them in your head.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
What's been the hardest part about the job?
Speaker 7 (32:52):
I would say I would say the not having a
perfect st ructure of work. How it's just it could,
like the schedule could change at any moment in time,
so not basically just not being able to like no
(33:12):
at a certain time I'm gonna be done working to
make a plan for something else. Even though most of
the time, all the time I ask you if I
could do something.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
You're like, yeah, go for it, But mainly just.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
To worry that I'm going to make a plan and
then something big is going to happen and I'm gonna
have to like say no to somebody or something like that,
like a firefighter.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
He checked in with me two solid months before his
proposal to Maddie to just make sure we could block
those dates.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, and then it came up on my calendar. It
was like secret to read top secret. Read you like you, John.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
I freaking love my job, dude, it is the greatest
thing ever. I've the connections I've got to make, the
things I've got to do in traveling and and just
I feel like I am able to put all the
work that I put in as a kid and about
high school and stuff like that. I'm able to actually
like justify myself by showing what I can do with
this job because a lot of people are able to
(34:07):
see my work and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
So it's, man, it's been a huge blessing.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
What's Eddie like behind the scenes?
Speaker 7 (34:13):
So at first, I had no idea Eddie was Hispanic.
Like I grew up listening to y'all on the.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Radio show That's where You Start. I know, well, it's one.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
The thing is, Eddie just said a couple of days ago,
people think he's white with it before they see him.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Yeah, it's wild, like you know, going to school in
college and stuff. I would listen to you guys, and
I had no idea that Eddie was Hispanic. So I first,
I first, when I first saw him, he introduced himself
and I recognized his voice and he said, Eddie. I
was like, man, you're different than than I imagined you looking.
But Eddie is amazing He's also one of those guys
that will just make you feel right at home and
(34:48):
just great personality and just super super happy all the time.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I don't think I've ever seen him, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I'm telling you, and I have, but it's my best friend,
and I've seen him like go through the little struggles.
But he's like the most arrow pointing up dude I've
ever met. Yeah, like consistently, he's just like all right, yeah,
let's just go.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Like it could be a rough morning. We had just
flown from somewhere. I got back earlier, and he's like,
what's up.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Breed, And we'll cut this in a second. But what
about Kevin.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Kevin is really awesome as well.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
He he was a good one because he kind of
came in around the same time I did, so we
were both kind of new and we hit it off
that way. But Kevin is just man. Kevin's a go getter.
You can tell. He's just he's motivated to do anything
and everything that he puts his mind.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
To, steady solid, like everyal foundation and it's like, hey,
let's track this down. And god dang, he's gonna track
him down or he's going to die. Try like he
figured stuff out in a different way.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Mike D.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Mike D, like you always say, he's a silent assassin man.
He's like he's always problem solving and if any of
us run into any situation, he's always got the right answer.
He's always the guy that's putting things together and making
sure they run smoothly. But Mike D is also just
also very positive and genuine. He just doesn't speak up
(36:13):
most of the time.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Or speak at all. Yeah at all, I remember speak he.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
This is also kind of when I started, I guess
y'all for the show. Got tickets to the the wrestling
event that was at Nissan Stadium, and of course not
many people were going, but he hit me up and
he's like, hey, I got tickets to this, Like would
you want to go?
Speaker 6 (36:31):
And I was like, yeah, of course.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
So me and Mike de went and watched some wrestling
at Nissan Stadium and it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's an unfair question. I'm sitting in front of you,
what did you not? It's a tough one cause I'm
not just gonna go what about me? Because that's all
glowing and amazing obviously, because you have to say that
I'm your boss. What did you what's different about what?
What expect actation did you have versus the reality?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
I will say I was expecting you to be very
very intimidating and very like like if you screw up once,
like you better figure it out or else.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's five years ago me. So you got in.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, you got it, that's what That's what people said.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
They're like, man after after he married Caitlin, he's different.
And so that that probably was my big expectation when
I when I would screw up something or miss missing
edit or something like that, I'd be like, oh, boy,
like I'm probably about to be grilled on this. And
and you know, I mean you you you let me
know when I need to be more careful on things.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
And but you know you're you're gentle. You know.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I don't have an expectation of anybody that don't have
on myself for sure, which is also unhealthy because I'd
be like, you can't screw up. Also to myself be
like you can't screw up, loser. Then I beat myself
with the belt over my back, but the buckle parts.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Yeah, but you also recognize, like we all make.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Mistakes, especially in an art driven world where you're having Yes,
real tried to like made me lose money. I paid
a manager for you last night. I'm going to I'm
going to conclude with this. Uh Reid and I are doing.
Are they trying to sell all this stuff back on
eBay because we're shooting a docuseries on memorabilia and reads like, Okay,
let's post the Peyton Many Jersey posted George Kittle and said, Okay,
(38:18):
how much are they going for an eBay? Like, let's
just figure out and we'll just fairly list them. And
he goes, Peyton Manning five hundred, George Kittle three hundred.
And I thought to myself, well that seems a little cheap.
So I went and look myself and I was like,
Peyton Manny Clost for like nine hundred or one thousand,
and George Kittle and I'm like, read, you cost me
like five hundred bucks?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah, I missed the custom uh the customs.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So then I beat him with the belt. Had to
come over and I beat him with the belt. Yeah. Okay, Morgan,
keep up the good work. This is our official announcement.
Morgan is the president of the network. Also our official
announcement that read, if you missed it.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Had the cops called.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
On him because he went up to the wrong old
guy and wanted to thank you for paying for his
meal earlier, when it wasn't the same old guy.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
It wasn't a thank you, it was he said that
he was handicapped and he couldn't go in and order.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
And then I see him walking around the mall.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Guess what not the same old guy, probably not, most
likely not.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You. You wanted the smoke after that, You're like, sir, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, really he did.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Just wanted him to admit, but the guy couldn't admit
it because people never said he was handicaps on the
same guy.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Was he like, sir, we've never met tell you what
he said?
Speaker 7 (39:28):
No, that's what I expected, but he was just like
I started to talk about it, and he was just
like nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
As you started like running away, I.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Thought Reader was like trying to scam him or something.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I would too, me too, like it was a superall
and child.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
I took that as, oh, this is the guy for sure,
he's trying to run.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Which wasn't the case. I don't think Read.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I would never in a million years see you being
the person seeking out some controversy.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
But to be fair, my dad was like, you should
go up and just see if that's him.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I was like, it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
He put on his dad. Now, okay, thank you all.
There's the uh this is our announcement. Read is now
the president of selling Peyton Manning jerseys for cheap and
Morgan the official president which he has been now for
months of the Nashville podcast Network, which I think we're
gonna end up changing the name of.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Anyway, we need to talk about that list of names.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
But one of them she wants to call if you
have you heard the new nickname. No, she wants to
name the network reads Network. I like that or just
read that spelled r E A D.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, exactly with the photo of readers of you reading
a book. All right, we got to go.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Thank you Byboddy, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast
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