December 15, 2023 • 31 mins
On season 2, episode 13 of U&I, Kickoff Kevin chats with a couple brothers from Georgia. Kevin was interested in hearing about the dynamic of trying to balance family and independent artists. The brothers are signed to a publishing deal with Sony, so they dive into being able to do that but also stay independent as artists. Plus, the guys talk about wanting to release new music every month in 2024 to stay on top of their craft.
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Unsigned and Independent is a six episode season podcast hosted by Kevin O’Connell that features unsigned and independent artists and bands in Nashville. The purpose of this podcast is to highlight the journey and grind musicians go through trying to make it in the industry; the journey most fans don’t see leading up to national success. People move to music city from all over the country to chase something they have only dreamed of – making music and performing for a living. This podcast will dive into stories on the road, late nights and early mornings on the infamous Broadway, their background story, and if there is an ultimate goal for each artist or band. The artists featured on this podcast don’t have the backing of a label or sometimes even management, or a publishing team to handle their bookings, travel, etc.… But what they all have in common is a genuine passion for the love of music and performing. There is hidden talent spread throughout music city and the aim of this podcast is to give this hidden talent an opportunity to have a platform for an audience to hear their story, what the process is really like in the industry, and hopefully gain a new fan or two.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another episode of Unsigned and Independent, Season two,
Episode thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's their name?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Kevin Tutin Brothers. You know, that's what I thought it
looked like, mm hmm. But they don't want to cons
so the Tutan.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Brothers, Nah, the Tucan two Tan tout.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I just think there's a lot of Tuton jokes, like
Mark joke. I bet they hear it all the time.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's how we started off.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, so what's the deal. Where are they from?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They're from Georgia, Atham, Georgia, Big Bulldogs.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, and they're actual brothers. Are they like bros? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
They're actual blood brothers.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Did you guys talk about them keeping their name the
Tuton Brothers.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, that's the first thing we talked about, actually, is
the name and how many different variations they've gotten over
the years.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
What do you like about him?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I like their dynamic as brothers. I have a brother myself,
so for me, it's like interesting to look at that
and how they form together and keep their relationship. And
they haven't gotten any fights, which is surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's cool that they both graduated from Georgia with a
finance degree and here they are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's unsigned and Independent with Kickoff Kevin.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You can follow them at Tuton Brothers Band to u
t e in Tootin' Brother's band where you can follow
Kickoff Kevin at Kickoff Kevin.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, that's right, right, boom there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
All right here they are the Tutin' Brothers on Unsigned
and Independent Tutin' Brothers.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
That right, alright. I'm sure you guys get a lot
of the name, Thetten, the Totton. Yeah, yeah, so the
Tutin Brothers. That's your last name.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Elementary school was relentless.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh I was gonna say, what were those kids like?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Savage?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But if you can handle that with the last name
toot and you can, you can handle anything, man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's true. You probably got to a point where you
almost flipped it on them, where you just kind of
made fun of yourselves or.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
No oh yeah, absolutely got to.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You gotta roll with it, right, gotta own it. Yeah,
what's the what's the worst or pronunciation or someone sticks
in your head? Do you remember if somebody saying someone
We're like seriously, like that's what you think it is?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, I'm not, I mean not that people never like
usually shy away from tutin' at first, because they're like
they're not confident. You know, I could say tutting. I
could say like tutten or something, and then if it
is isn't tooting, then you know, it doesn't sound bad.
But if they just come out of the gate, they
feel like if they say touting and it's wrong, then
it's gonna be you know, into the world or something.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So yeah, that makes sense. So we got Sam, we
got Walker. How are we doing it? Hey, guys doing great? Man?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Happy man? Good?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, happy you're here. We were talking about a little
bit off of this, but we had to reschedule a
couple of times. So I really appreciate you guys rolling
with it and everything. You know, this industry can be.
I'm sure you've been doing it for a little while.
And you said you walked over here right to the studio.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, man, we ride at Sony, so it's literally I
mean that doesn't mean anything to people listen to this,
but it's like literally a five minute walk down music Row.
So it's easy, man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, that's all. You do a lot of work on
music Row here writing wise.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Oh yeah, we're there. Yeah, we're at Sony probably three
or four days a week, Yeah, exact.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Really, how long you guys have been with them, because
you have a publishing deal.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
We have publishing with them. Yeah yeah, publishing deal with them,
which is like a songwriting deal. Yeah, we're there, yeah,
I mean we've been there for the what year and
a half year and a little bit, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, Oh so still fairly new, pretty fresh man. Pretty
how's it going over there?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
It's great. We love it, we really do. The team
is amazing. They're super supportive of us and believe in us,
which is is hard to come by in the music industry. Honestly,
Like for a long time there we were doing it
and we're like, man, we just haven't gotten anybody to
kind of jump on board with what we're doing yet.
And they totally did that, which has been such a
blessing for us.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And then what your guys is, do you have a
goal to be you know, get a record label deal
or is the publishing deal kind of the first step
now because some people probably hear this and be like, oh,
it's unsignable. I thought, but there's a difference, right.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah it can't. I know, it kind of like
can be confusing from the outside looking in on the
music industry. But I think our goal probably is to
have a record deal at some point. We would have
loved that, but we don't have one right now, and
so we're just like, well, wow, I mean, we're just
gonna put out our own music. Man, We're not gonna
let that stop us, you know, but yeah, I mean
(03:49):
so yeah. Basically, we have a songwriting deal and Sony
like it facilitates our writing of songs and stuff like that,
and then the record deal is like, you know, that's
what people probably think of when they hear a deal,
and uh you know, that's like they're paying for your
recording and helping you kind of distribute to the world.
So hopefully we'll have that one day, but uh, right
now we don't. So we're just rocking on what we got.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I like it. Well, I think you're doing a great
job so far.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Thanks man.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And you too are from Georgia, correct, man, we're real brothers,
a couple of brothers from Georgia.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, sir.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And the one of the main reasons I had to
get you guys on here was I have a brother myself,
and I was like, damn, that's got to be because
I've had I've had a married couple on here, I've
had siblings on here, but I think this is my
first set of brothers. Yea, yeah, and I know that
dynamic has got to be good and bad at times, right,
So I got to ask Sam, I'll go to you first.
(04:42):
How many fights do you think you've been in?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Countless? Dude? Countless?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
When we started doing it in college, we actually went
to like a marriage counselor because I kid with people.
But it was literally up until recently when Walker actually
did get married. It was on just as if. I mean,
we were living in the same room, we were working together,
we had all the same friends here in Nashville because
we're always together. So like like twenty four to seven, dude,
(05:10):
we were together basically.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Did it never get physical? I do point.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No, no, no, I mean we fought as like little kids.
I think we got out of our system as kids
like physical fights.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, we never We never hit each other anything, which
I think is good. Uh. But yeah, I mean we
I think we do largely pretty well. And we've worked
on it. I mean like we worked on it pretty
hard over the years. You know. It's like when we
were coming out of college, I think we looked at
each other and like, man, if we're this is going
pretty well, and if we're going to do this for
a living, then like we need to really figure out
(05:44):
like how to do this well so we're not like,
you know, running our relationship, messing up our family dynamic.
Because we always say that, like like being in a
granted band is great and playing music is great, but
it's it'll never be worth it, uh to lose like
your relationship with your brother, you know what I mean,
So that that definitely has always come first for us,
and I think it think it always will.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So do you think in a positive way because for
me and my siblings and my family, I feel like
I can tell them anything, whether it's good or bad,
because I know they're gonna be a family there there
at the end of the day, right, right, So do
you feel like you guys can kind of have that
communication Walker where you could be like, oh, I could
tell them what's on my mind because I know we're
not gonna fight and have a big falloucause at the
end of the day, we're still brothers, We're still blood here.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, I think so, man, I mean, it definitely is
like that and we're very honest with each other, which
I think is you know, probably a better thing than
not a better thing. But it still is like, you know,
if there's something that's bothering Sam or there's something that's
bothered me, like we're gonna say it and it's gonna
be exactly how we feel. And you know, I think
(06:46):
that communication is is vital in a lot of ways,
but it's also hard to hard to swallow sometimes. Yah.
But and it can be dangerous too, because I'll say
something and think, like after I've said it to Walker,
I'll think I would not say that to any other
human in the world, right, like I just said it,
Like I think because there is that element of he's
(07:07):
my brother, I know he's going to be there. It's
like I don't have to use much self control and
how I'm saying what I just said because I know
he's going to be there. And so it's definitely beneficial
in a lot of ways. But it's also like, man,
I got to check myself and make sure I'm still
being kind and like still building each other up so
we can continue to be brothers and work together and
all that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, that's a good point. And do you guys, either
of you ever go to your parents still and be like, hey,
he did this.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
He did this, probably, dude, I don't know. I can't
think of an example right now, but I'm well, our
mom's always worried about us. Yeah, she's always like, hey,
how are you and Sam doing. I'm like, we're good,
still good. And you have another brother, yeah right, younger, older,
tea man, youngest.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Youngest, youngest. Okay, so who's the oldest.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
You got to guess? Oh, it's okay, We'll make everybody guess.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I know. I do that with my brother too, and
I'm always like, m I'm just gonna go with Walker
because you asked. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, you're right. See,
my older brother always asks too, Oh, whole guess, and
then everyone always says, I don't know, So I think
that whole brother. I know the dynamic, got it?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Man? Okay, Well, literally everybody thinks or not everybody, but
I'd say eighty percent of people guess Sam is older.
Really is interesting to me. But yeah, I don't know
why that is, dude, couldn't couldn't be my immaturity. I
don't think definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
What's the age difference here between all three brothers.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Two and a half between us and then two between
me and Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Okay, and then Jack. Is he in musical instrument or
talented at all or anything or no?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He plays music. He like let a lot of worship
in college. Uh, but that's how we all started, like
playing music, was basically in church. And then he's super talent.
He like does a lot of video stuff. So he
does a lot of video stuff for us and uh
for like he'll video weddings and crap like that. But
he also has like a corporate job in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh okay, So he's not in naturvial, No, he's not.
He's creative though, Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good. You guys
are Georgia boys.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Georgia boys.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You went to Uga.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh we love them?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah yeah, Uga, Georgia, Georgia, whatever you want to call it.
You guys had a good couple of years here with football.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
It's been glorious glory years. Man.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, did you guys go to a lot of games?
What years were you there?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I was there from fourteen to eighteen, and so that
was right when that our first national championship appearance and
forever was in kind of the seventeen eighteen season. That
was two so that was my senior year and I
was in that end zone where they were to throw
the ball to Davante Smith, and it was just heartbreaking, bro,
(09:37):
because at that point, I mean, you don't know if
you're ever going to get back. And it's like, man,
I just lost the chance to win a national championship
my senior year at Georgia, like just the glory years, man.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And you guys are dominating that game too for a
while in the big sack, and I was rooting for
you that game, and I was like, damn, they got
this game after that sack.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, I thought we had it, man, And then they called,
uh uh, what's this off sides? Tyler Simmons, Dude, he
was on sides. I'll take that to my grave. Bro,
You're not bitter about it at all, But he was
on side even a couple of championships later. You're not
bitter at all. No. I mean, yeah, we grew up
die hard dogs fans man our. I mean our all
our grandparents went to Georgia, our dad went to Georgia,
(10:18):
all our aunts and uncles, cousins. It runs pretty deep.
So we were waiting on that on these years a
long long time. We always knew we were a sleeping giant,
and it's we've I think both of us have been
to all three national championships we've played in the last
five years.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Really.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I didn't go to the one out in California,
but that's okay. My wife went to TCU, so we
so we went to we went to that one.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh man, I bet that was the fun.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
All Right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
At what point did you stop talking crap to her? Well?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Okay here it was.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Gone early and I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Pretty pretty quickly. It was like, okay, we're we're doing
like damage control here. But but yeah, she so that
was right before we got married, and it was like
a month before I got married. That game happened and
she was on her batsurette. She's from California, and she
was in California on her boucharette when TCU beat Michigan
(11:10):
to go to the National Championship. And so we had
said like, nah, we don't want to get tickets, like
it'll just put us in a fight, if you know,
if it ends up happening. And I was watching the
tickets and they went down like two hundred bucks and
I was like, I just bought them, dude.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I sent her a screenshot and she was like, no,
you didn't. I was like, yeah I did. We're going
So it ended up good for me. But she was
a she was a great sport through all of it.
I will say that she's she's been a trooper.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That's rough. No, what about your guys' family Outside of
your brother growing up, your dad was big into music
and big influence for both of you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, he uh, he loves music more than almost
anyone I know. I think he just loves it, man.
And he plays guitar a little bit, and he sing.
He can never remember lyrics, but if you put a
if you put a lyric sheet in front of him,
might get it right. So he just loves it, man.
So we grew up around it, you know. We grew
(12:04):
up around nineties and early thousands country and uh yeah,
we were just kind of indoctrinated into that. And so
he started playing or he played guitar, so we kind
of both started playing a little bit and just had
guitars around the house. And that's kind of one of
the big ways we got into music at all.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And did you just kind of pick up and learn
yourself or did you guys go to lessons or anything
like that too.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I took lessons like probably middle school, and then just
kind of taught myself from there. And I think Sam
Sam started as a drummer, but I started as a
drummer and I was self taught YouTube taught on guitar. Yeah,
put just learning sweet Home Alabama, like playing a d
shape and just rocking with it.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Dude, how young were you Sam?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I was in middle school when I started.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, yeah, okay. And then when did you guys say, hey,
we should do this together? Was that in church like
you were saying growing up or did it come naturally
in college?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah? We started. We both played kind of in different
church things together and then and I was usually the
drummer in those situations. Yeah, yeah. I was usually like
playing guitar and singing in like the classic worship leader
if people are familiar for that, and then Sam would
play drums or something. And then in college we were
kind of doing the same thing, just like for different
campus organizations. And then we were at a show one
(13:17):
night and just not like a Christian thing, just like
a show, and we looked at each other and we
were like, dude, I think we could do that. Like
what those guys are doing on stage, Like, I think
that could be us. And so we were like, let's
just play some open mics and see what happens. And
it was ju are you familiar with Jude in the line? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they came to Athens and they were literally just having
an incredible time on stage, and like it sounded good
(13:39):
because they're really good musicians, but it was more so
that they were just putting on a show. We looked
at each other like, I mean, we can have a
great time on stage, you know, yeah, we could do that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So it's more so about like the performance and entertaining
people than it was the music at that time. Maybe
not now, but at that time.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Oh initially for sure, because we like, I don't think
I'd ever written a song to that point, and so
we literally started playing open mics, just covers I don't
I don't even know what, and uh, people like started
coming and we got asked to do like we come
play our you know, sorority fundraiser, Well, you come play
our fraternity party, and we were like yeah, sure, and
then it just turned into like this thing where we
(14:16):
were really like, we should probably like start writing our
own songs and figuring out how to get them recorded
and uh, and we should probably have a band name.
Like literally, it all just like we're like what should
we call ourselves? And somebody was like the Tudin Brothers
and we're like, all right, that's rock.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's simple.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Like literally, somebody, I think a chick for a like
a sorority fundraiser text with us and was like, Hey,
what should I put y'alls name as on the poster?
And we were just like, I'm the Tudin Brothers, I
don't know and SUF and that's just what it was.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Man, that's awesome. Yeah, and then you guys started writing
songs out to that together. It's one of you. Let
me ask us first. I'll go to you samit. Are
you more of a writer? Are you guys kind of
the same?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We were definitely the same. I would say we'd have
different strengths in the writing room, but we're we both
write pretty much the same amount, and so we both
started writing honestly, probably so in college, yeah, because we
didn't know really the concept of co writing necessarily or
like we'd never been to Nashville didn't know about co
writing being in a writer's room, and so we would
(15:10):
kind of write songs by ourselves and then come to
each other and say, this is the song I wrote,
and usually one of us, you know, we'd shoot it
down or whatever. But ye could we could kind of
co write from there, you know, and like, well, let's
edit this part in this part. And so I guess
in some way it was kind of the first experience
of co writing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Now I'm just curious. I've talked about this a little
bit on this podcast. Writing a song is something I've
always been like, just I want to sit in one
of those writers rooms just I have no idea what
goes on with if it's a lot, or if it's
a whole lot of nothing just drinking or whatever you're
doing or writing, We'll get you in one that that
would be awesome. I've said that on this before. I'm like,
I need I just want to sit there and just
kind of see how it comes together. And then I
(15:47):
told Eddie from The Big Show one time, I would
like to just have like one I don't know line
in a song, just to say like I've had a
line on the song. I think that would be the
coolest thing and have somebody like performing and be like, yeah,
I had a little just that little influence on that.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We're doing kick off Kevin and a Tuton Brothers song.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I'm you, guys, tell me when and we'll make it happen.
And but I'm alost curious how that comes about. So, like, say, Walker,
you come in with a song. Yeah, do you have
a song finished before you bring it to sim or
are you kind of like, hey, I got this thing started,
now I need your help finishing it or making some
edits to it.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, dude. People ask us this all the time. They're like,
how do you write a song? Somebody else? Bro like,
how does that happen? And I'm, uh, it's how I
I think, Okay, here's how I say. It just happens
differently every time. Like sometimes every songwriter in Nashville has
a list of titles in their phone that they're like,
(16:40):
somebody says, like, you know, somebody says, well, beer never
broke my heart. And then they, you know, they're like,
oh man, that sounds like a song, and so they
write it down their phone and the next day they
bring it into the room. They're like man, this guy
said beer never broke my heart last night, and so
we could write a song about that. And so that
definitely happens sometimes. And then a lot of times people
bring in like a melody idea or like a little phrase,
(17:01):
or sometimes people bring in like a guitar lick or
a track, and you just kind of find like, whatever
idea is kind of like this little spark in the
room that people gravitate to, and then you kind of
try to form a song around that. It's usually how
it works. I think.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Okay, it's a little different. Do you ever write something
down like one night and you're like, this is gonna
be awesome. Then you wake up the next day you're like, yeah,
I'm not even gonna.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Bring that absolutely all time. You ought to go through
my voice memos. It would be embarrassing because it's like
it's midnight recordings and medle be like you know, just
like mumble, like singing into my phone at midnight, like
trying to be quiet, and.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I always sing of that. Like for me, it'd be
like I think of a creative idea for the show
or podcast or someone let's say have them drinking or whatever. Oh,
this is gonna be great, and I write it down
and I look at the next day, I'm like, dude, delete,
delete all that stuff. So it's gonna be the same
for writing, right, Sometimes.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, it's one percent of the same. Man. Well, and
I think too, it's it's a little bit that way
in general, Like like I'll look back at songs we
wrote a year ago or two years ago and think, man,
what were we thinking back then? Which is cool to
like see the growth, you know, of how far we've come.
But it's even like that, like in a moment, it
can feel great, but then you kind of look back
on it and you're like, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, it's weird how that work. Your mind just kind
of has this trickle on you. Yeah, how long you
guys been in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Four and about a half years, Man.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Always been the goal to come here since you started?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
No, No, not at all, Bro in college. I mean
we didn't. I didn't. We didn't start playing music with
each other like for the band until I was like
a junior senior in college. And so I like, we
both have finance degrees. Uh, I worked for Yeah, I know, crazy,
What was I doing? Bro?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Both of you?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I wish I'd done something different. Yeah, I worked a
way too hard for that, but I I mean I
worked like a corporate job for a year out of
school in Atlanta before I move it up here. So
it was it was just one of the things that
kind of kept going. And then I graduated from college
and Sam was a year behind me, and we were like, well,
let's just see where it goes for next year. And
(19:02):
you know, a year went by he graduated and it
was kind of growing and we were like, well, this
is the only chance we're gonna have in our life
to pursue this, and we love doing it, so let's
go for it. So that's kind of how it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Good for you, And what's it been like in those
four and a half plus years for you, sim.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's been good. It's been great. We got here at
the beginning of tween nineteen and then so we had
about a year and a couple of months and then COVID.
So it's been interesting because we really like had a
good opportunity for a while of like learning how to
co write, writing with other people, zoom writing and everything
(19:36):
before there was any chance really of looks at a
publishing deal. Or anything like that because people weren't really
signing much or anything like that during COVID, So it
was cool to be able to like really hone in
the craft and work on socials and do all that
during that time. And then after you know, COVID, it
kind of opened back up and we started meeting with
publishers and stuff like that. But it's been really good, dude.
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I think we I've gotten a lot better. Like I
think even when we would put out our music, like
you know, when we used to put it out, I
would think, man, this is this is good. It's fine,
but I don't like love it like I love so
and so artists, like in my own music. And now
it's becoming more like, dude, I love my music, which
(20:19):
is it's a really good feeling because it's like, man,
I can really be proud of this. And so I
think we're starting to get to that point of like
where we're really really, really proud of And we've always
been proud, like of the effort we put in and
the work we did and how everything turned out, but
now it more feels like this is this is good music.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Honing it in on the craft kind of thing, and
who are some of the people or person that has
helped you guys out.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Dude, I mean I think I mean our publisher Kenley
Flinnett Sony has been a massive help to us. He's
just helped us get connected with other great writers, which
is huge. You know. He's another voice that kind of
helps steer you know, the creative ship, if you will.
And then Ben Huddleston, Yeah, Ben Huddleston, he was He's
(21:06):
one of my college roommates and works for like a
what does he do, like a business management business management
from the time, so basically handles artists and managers money,
but he like managed us for a while and he
was He's been a huge help over the years, just
like helping us do the same thing, like connect with people,
(21:27):
steer that ship, being like, well I like this man.
They're also leaning more to that and just a ton
of stuff, honestly so, because it's tough when you got
two voices, you know, and if it's a fifty to
fifty split on something, then it's like, well, you're you're
kind of running into a brick wall. Because both of
us are stubborn, and I'm probably more stubborn, but yeah,
you like it's nice to have another voice or another
(21:50):
couple of voices that say, yeah, I hear what both
of y'all are saying, but I think this, and I
side with either Sam or Walker, and you're like, all right,
well let's just go if both of y'all think that,
let's go with that. That's been huge for us.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, you talked about earlier performing a couple of shows,
random shows, parties, weddings, this and that. You talk about
a show in Montana. I got to hear more about
the show in Montana about a bare knuckle fight that
you guys talked about a little bit before this that
(22:22):
I saw, and can you tell the story? Walker? Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, dude, so there's a lot to this. You tell
me to shut up if I'm talking too long. But uh,
but we got asked. We got like an email from
a guy named Monty and Montana and Monty Klostoff and
he was like, hey, guys, I heard y'all's music, like
really like it would love to have y'all out here.
We're doing a bare knuckle boxing and nitro circus festival
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in Butte, Montana. Were like, what the heck, dude? Well,
we were like instant, like we're in whatever we need
to do to get out there, so we uh. He
basically is a promoter and he put together the show
where a festival two days where the first night they
had bare knuckle boxing and like this uh like kind
of scream oh sort of band, and then the next
night they had a bunch of nitro circus jumps that
(23:11):
they like sit up in a parking lot like dirt
bike stu and flips and stuff, and then they had
us play after that, and so like the big finale
of the night was this dude flipping this like side
by side razor and uh. We were on stage like
literally about to start singing after he flipped the razor,
and it's like yeah, and then the band plays and
he like revs this razor and flips it and it
(23:31):
just lands straight on top.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Of the razor.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Dude, it didn't get all the way around, and everybody
was like oh, and they were like he's okay. And
then it like everybody turned to us and we're like, okay,
we're starting We're gonna start playing now.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I guess everyone goes crazy when you find out like, oh,
he's okay.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Everybody's like so well, it was this big inflatable I
don't know if you've ever seen these, but they land
their landing ramp is inflatable, so it's like if if
somebody crashes it, they're like hitting a soft like a
kind of big inflatable ramp rather than like a hard
wooden ramp or something. And so this razor lands on
the inflatable ramp upside down, like bounces up off of
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it like a bouncy castle, and then hits the just
the pavement to the side, and everybody's like, oh, he's
definitely quiet, and it was like it was like car
wreck sound, you know where you hear that's.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Like yeah, and then you guys have to play a
show up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But it was sick because they're like he's all right,
you know, and everybody's like.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Something straight out of a movie. He's like, he's okay,
and everyone just goes crazy for you guys, like hot Rod.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It was nuts. This okay, last story about it. This
is a There was a guy that fought the first
night and he's the sheriff of but Montana. I don't
know if he still is or not. Great dude met him,
held his baby baby. He's a super cool guy. But anyway.
Uh so, my wife was selling merch for us out there.
I was dating her at the time, and uh she
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was talking to him and he was telling her that
the promoter was trying to get him to fight, like
he was trying to get the sheriff to bare knuckle
box at this boxing match in Montana and he was like,
I'm not gonna do it, and the guy kept bugging him.
He was like, Okay, I'll do it if you get
the Tuton Brothers out here to play.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
No.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
So we didn't know that the whole time, but she
he told my wife that, and so that was pretty cool.
They just found us, Yeah, and he loved our music.
So he was like, I'll only fight if the really
and they were like, dude, I'm sorry. And then he
kept being like, bro, you got to see this picture
of this guy because he just beat the crap out
of the guy. Oh really, And so he kept showing
everybody pictures of the other guy.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh man, so you guys are the one to influence
the sheriff to get in a bare knuckle fight.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, hey man, that's us.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Not many people can say that, by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Dude, that's that's that is a hilarious story.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's awesome. I I was there for that.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
It was fun, man, it was fun.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
What else?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
As we kind of wrapped this up pretty soon here
outside of music, I need to hear. Also, you guys
are in the golf right, both of you?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, okay, okay? You was it? You Walker? The worked
out Augusta.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I did?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You did? What was that?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Like? It was awesome, dude. It was a definitely an
experience of a lifetime for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
How want are you there? How many?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I worked there for semester my senior year of college. Okay,
so it was the twenty sixteen Masters. I was there.
So I was there from like January or like December,
which is like you know, four months before the Masters
through April, which is when the Masters happened.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
What were you doing there?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I was a business affairs intern so I didn't work
for like the tournament specifically, I worked for the golf club.
And basically that entails. It's like a they do a
lot of things, but it's everything from like TV deals
to like press credentialing and press relations to like sponsor relations,
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so like you know, they have these sponsors and you're
like taking care of their little you know, their space
or like making sure they have what they need or
whatever it is, and then just st a bunch of
random stuff like I got the mail every day, you know,
just creating.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Whatever you're working out a gusta who gives a crowd, no, dude.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Like literally, I just I take a golf cart and
I just kind of like, all right, I'm going to
get the mail, and I just like drive down number
one And did you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Ever play around?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I did? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
How many I played?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Once? Yeah? They have an employee play day kind of
thing where you know, they let their employees play, which
is really cool. And I got to take my dad,
so that was it was really special, man, It was
it was cool. I have uh you like you hear
about people going to the Masters and like seeing it
and like people like, oh, there's no place like it, dude,
(27:25):
And I don't know. I always felt like there was
probably like some curtain like where like oh you saw
the behind the scenes and you didn't like it. But it, dude,
it's just like great people and they do like everything
they do like really really well, and the attention to
detail is all just like they just really care a
lot about it, which I really I learned a lot
and uh made a lot of really cool relationships went
through that I have nothing but good things to say
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about them.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
How far is that from your hometown?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
A couple hours from making probably yeah, two three hours okay?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
And then other some other jobs for you saying that
you had before or jobs that you hated or liked
for music.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, right after college, I worked at a diner and
I was like, I can't do this. It was like
these people are incredible who like just what like I
had gained so much respect for service industry, uh, like
waiters and waitresses and stuff because it was a.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Grind, bro. Yeah what were you doing? You're serving?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I was just waiting tables.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
See that's why I think the old thing is everyone
should work in service industry for even if it was
a couple of months, because you have a whole new respect.
That's why if like your orders messed up or saying
I'm like, it's all good.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Dude, I became a way better tipper.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah yeah, always.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And yeah and then I uh and then I work
construction once we moved up here side hustle.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Okay, now your bowl just full time music right and performing.
Where are you performing at in Nashville anywhere? Like place
writers around stuff?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, just all the writers rounds. I mean I think
we probably played all of it at this point. I
played the Basement. We played our own like ticket to
show at the Basement, the og Basement back in the summer. Yeah,
so I think we sold that out. Yeah close? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
What else you got going on? This year's coming year
in twenty twenty four, dude?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Our goal is to well, we're just trying to put
a lot on the music, man. We're Our goal for
the last year year and a half has been to
put out a song a month. So so we're going
to try to keep doing that. Man, Hopefully when people
are listening to this, uh, you know, we will we
will put out a song that month. So that's the
that's the goal, Man's just keep cranking out music.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Because I'm curious nowadays, I feel like that you always
have to have the next thing, whether it's a song
or a post or content whatever, especially in the creative
world that we're in. Is that do you feel like
you have to keep up because of that or it's
just like a personal goal between you guys where we're like, hey,
this is what we kind of want to do. Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I think both. I mean, it's really cool to be
able to put out our songs and just kind of
do it when we want. But also it's like, man,
if we want to make a splash, like we we
feel like consistency is a huge thing right now, and
so just whether that's with socials or and we just
feel like the more shots you put out there, especially
they got to be quality. But the more shots you
(29:57):
put out there, you know, the better chance have a score.
So that's kind of our mentality on it. And also
we just have songs we right that we're like, man,
we think this is good, we want to put it out.
So that's a big part of it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Do you ever write a song at Sony with Sony
where you're like, we want to keep this but maybe
they're like, no, we want this for somebody else. Do
you ever have to have that battle or not really yet?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Not really? Did they want us to They signed us
to be like a band, you know, to be an artist,
and so if we write a song that we think
is really great they want us to put it out.
That's awesome so far, so hopefully so far. Yeah, hopefully
that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well, thanks a lot of guys for coming in. This
is a lot of fun. I need to come out.
I need first, I need to get in one of
these writers' rooms. You can come, that would be awesome.
I mean, I'm right, we're right down the street here.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Right, yeah, just walk them down bro.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, perfect, and then I want to come see a show.
Check them out social media Instagram, Tooting Brothers band, stream
their music. Support them, you guys. It has been a
lot of fun. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, man, Thankvan. I love this episode of the Bobby Cast.
Subscribe on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Welcome to another episode of Unsigned and Independent, Season two,
Episode thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's their name?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Kevin Tutin Brothers. You know, that's what I thought it
looked like, mm hmm. But they don't want to cons
so the Tutan.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Brothers, Nah, the Tucan two Tan tout.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I just think there's a lot of Tuton jokes, like
Mark joke. I bet they hear it all the time.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's how we started off.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, so what's the deal. Where are they from?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They're from Georgia, Atham, Georgia, Big Bulldogs.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, and they're actual brothers. Are they like bros? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
They're actual blood brothers.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Did you guys talk about them keeping their name the
Tuton Brothers.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, that's the first thing we talked about, actually, is
the name and how many different variations they've gotten over
the years.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
What do you like about him?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I like their dynamic as brothers. I have a brother myself,
so for me, it's like interesting to look at that
and how they form together and keep their relationship. And
they haven't gotten any fights, which is surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's cool that they both graduated from Georgia with a
finance degree and here they are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's unsigned and Independent with Kickoff Kevin.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You can follow them at Tuton Brothers Band to u
t e in Tootin' Brother's band where you can follow
Kickoff Kevin at Kickoff Kevin.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, that's right, right, boom there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
All right here they are the Tutin' Brothers on Unsigned
and Independent Tutin' Brothers.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
That right, alright. I'm sure you guys get a lot
of the name, Thetten, the Totton. Yeah, yeah, so the
Tutin Brothers. That's your last name.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Elementary school was relentless.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh I was gonna say, what were those kids like?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Savage?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But if you can handle that with the last name
toot and you can, you can handle anything, man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's true. You probably got to a point where you
almost flipped it on them, where you just kind of
made fun of yourselves or.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
No oh yeah, absolutely got to.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You gotta roll with it, right, gotta own it. Yeah,
what's the what's the worst or pronunciation or someone sticks
in your head? Do you remember if somebody saying someone
We're like seriously, like that's what you think it is?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, I'm not, I mean not that people never like
usually shy away from tutin' at first, because they're like
they're not confident. You know, I could say tutting. I
could say like tutten or something, and then if it
is isn't tooting, then you know, it doesn't sound bad.
But if they just come out of the gate, they
feel like if they say touting and it's wrong, then
it's gonna be you know, into the world or something.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So yeah, that makes sense. So we got Sam, we
got Walker. How are we doing it? Hey, guys doing great? Man?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Happy man? Good?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, happy you're here. We were talking about a little
bit off of this, but we had to reschedule a
couple of times. So I really appreciate you guys rolling
with it and everything. You know, this industry can be.
I'm sure you've been doing it for a little while.
And you said you walked over here right to the studio.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, man, we ride at Sony, so it's literally I
mean that doesn't mean anything to people listen to this,
but it's like literally a five minute walk down music Row.
So it's easy, man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, that's all. You do a lot of work on
music Row here writing wise.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Oh yeah, we're there. Yeah, we're at Sony probably three
or four days a week, Yeah, exact.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Really, how long you guys have been with them, because
you have a publishing deal.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
We have publishing with them. Yeah yeah, publishing deal with them,
which is like a songwriting deal. Yeah, we're there, yeah,
I mean we've been there for the what year and
a half year and a little bit, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, Oh so still fairly new, pretty fresh man. Pretty
how's it going over there?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
It's great. We love it, we really do. The team
is amazing. They're super supportive of us and believe in us,
which is is hard to come by in the music industry. Honestly,
Like for a long time there we were doing it
and we're like, man, we just haven't gotten anybody to
kind of jump on board with what we're doing yet.
And they totally did that, which has been such a
blessing for us.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And then what your guys is, do you have a
goal to be you know, get a record label deal
or is the publishing deal kind of the first step
now because some people probably hear this and be like, oh,
it's unsignable. I thought, but there's a difference, right.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah it can't. I know, it kind of like
can be confusing from the outside looking in on the
music industry. But I think our goal probably is to
have a record deal at some point. We would have
loved that, but we don't have one right now, and
so we're just like, well, wow, I mean, we're just
gonna put out our own music. Man, We're not gonna
let that stop us, you know, but yeah, I mean
(03:49):
so yeah. Basically, we have a songwriting deal and Sony
like it facilitates our writing of songs and stuff like that,
and then the record deal is like, you know, that's
what people probably think of when they hear a deal,
and uh you know, that's like they're paying for your
recording and helping you kind of distribute to the world.
So hopefully we'll have that one day, but uh, right
now we don't. So we're just rocking on what we got.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I like it. Well, I think you're doing a great
job so far.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Thanks man.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And you too are from Georgia, correct, man, we're real brothers,
a couple of brothers from Georgia.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, sir.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And the one of the main reasons I had to
get you guys on here was I have a brother myself,
and I was like, damn, that's got to be because
I've had I've had a married couple on here, I've
had siblings on here, but I think this is my
first set of brothers. Yea, yeah, and I know that
dynamic has got to be good and bad at times, right,
So I got to ask Sam, I'll go to you first.
(04:42):
How many fights do you think you've been in?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Countless? Dude? Countless?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
When we started doing it in college, we actually went
to like a marriage counselor because I kid with people.
But it was literally up until recently when Walker actually
did get married. It was on just as if. I mean,
we were living in the same room, we were working together,
we had all the same friends here in Nashville because
we're always together. So like like twenty four to seven, dude,
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we were together basically.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Did it never get physical? I do point.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No, no, no, I mean we fought as like little kids.
I think we got out of our system as kids
like physical fights.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, we never We never hit each other anything, which
I think is good. Uh. But yeah, I mean we
I think we do largely pretty well. And we've worked
on it. I mean like we worked on it pretty
hard over the years. You know. It's like when we
were coming out of college, I think we looked at
each other and like, man, if we're this is going
pretty well, and if we're going to do this for
a living, then like we need to really figure out
(05:44):
like how to do this well so we're not like,
you know, running our relationship, messing up our family dynamic.
Because we always say that, like like being in a
granted band is great and playing music is great, but
it's it'll never be worth it, uh to lose like
your relationship with your brother, you know what I mean,
So that that definitely has always come first for us,
and I think it think it always will.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So do you think in a positive way because for
me and my siblings and my family, I feel like
I can tell them anything, whether it's good or bad,
because I know they're gonna be a family there there
at the end of the day, right, right, So do
you feel like you guys can kind of have that
communication Walker where you could be like, oh, I could
tell them what's on my mind because I know we're
not gonna fight and have a big falloucause at the
end of the day, we're still brothers, We're still blood here.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, I think so, man, I mean, it definitely is
like that and we're very honest with each other, which
I think is you know, probably a better thing than
not a better thing. But it still is like, you know,
if there's something that's bothering Sam or there's something that's
bothered me, like we're gonna say it and it's gonna
be exactly how we feel. And you know, I think
(06:46):
that communication is is vital in a lot of ways,
but it's also hard to hard to swallow sometimes. Yah.
But and it can be dangerous too, because I'll say
something and think, like after I've said it to Walker,
I'll think I would not say that to any other
human in the world, right, like I just said it,
Like I think because there is that element of he's
(07:07):
my brother, I know he's going to be there. It's
like I don't have to use much self control and
how I'm saying what I just said because I know
he's going to be there. And so it's definitely beneficial
in a lot of ways. But it's also like, man,
I got to check myself and make sure I'm still
being kind and like still building each other up so
we can continue to be brothers and work together and
all that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, that's a good point. And do you guys, either
of you ever go to your parents still and be like, hey,
he did this.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
He did this, probably, dude, I don't know. I can't
think of an example right now, but I'm well, our
mom's always worried about us. Yeah, she's always like, hey,
how are you and Sam doing. I'm like, we're good,
still good. And you have another brother, yeah right, younger, older,
tea man, youngest.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Youngest, youngest. Okay, so who's the oldest.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
You got to guess? Oh, it's okay, We'll make everybody guess.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I know. I do that with my brother too, and
I'm always like, m I'm just gonna go with Walker
because you asked. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, you're right. See,
my older brother always asks too, Oh, whole guess, and
then everyone always says, I don't know, So I think
that whole brother. I know the dynamic, got it?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Man? Okay, Well, literally everybody thinks or not everybody, but
I'd say eighty percent of people guess Sam is older.
Really is interesting to me. But yeah, I don't know
why that is, dude, couldn't couldn't be my immaturity. I
don't think definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
What's the age difference here between all three brothers.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Two and a half between us and then two between
me and Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Okay, and then Jack. Is he in musical instrument or
talented at all or anything or no?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He plays music. He like let a lot of worship
in college. Uh, but that's how we all started, like
playing music, was basically in church. And then he's super talent.
He like does a lot of video stuff. So he
does a lot of video stuff for us and uh
for like he'll video weddings and crap like that. But
he also has like a corporate job in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh okay, So he's not in naturvial, No, he's not.
He's creative though, Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good. You guys
are Georgia boys.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Georgia boys.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You went to Uga.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh we love them?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah yeah, Uga, Georgia, Georgia, whatever you want to call it.
You guys had a good couple of years here with football.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
It's been glorious glory years. Man.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, did you guys go to a lot of games?
What years were you there?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I was there from fourteen to eighteen, and so that
was right when that our first national championship appearance and
forever was in kind of the seventeen eighteen season. That
was two so that was my senior year and I
was in that end zone where they were to throw
the ball to Davante Smith, and it was just heartbreaking, bro,
(09:37):
because at that point, I mean, you don't know if
you're ever going to get back. And it's like, man,
I just lost the chance to win a national championship
my senior year at Georgia, like just the glory years, man.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And you guys are dominating that game too for a
while in the big sack, and I was rooting for
you that game, and I was like, damn, they got
this game after that sack.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, I thought we had it, man, And then they called,
uh uh, what's this off sides? Tyler Simmons, Dude, he
was on sides. I'll take that to my grave. Bro,
You're not bitter about it at all, But he was
on side even a couple of championships later. You're not
bitter at all. No. I mean, yeah, we grew up
die hard dogs fans man our. I mean our all
our grandparents went to Georgia, our dad went to Georgia,
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all our aunts and uncles, cousins. It runs pretty deep.
So we were waiting on that on these years a
long long time. We always knew we were a sleeping giant,
and it's we've I think both of us have been
to all three national championships we've played in the last
five years.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Really.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I didn't go to the one out in California,
but that's okay. My wife went to TCU, so we
so we went to we went to that one.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh man, I bet that was the fun.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
All Right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
At what point did you stop talking crap to her? Well?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Okay here it was.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Gone early and I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Pretty pretty quickly. It was like, okay, we're we're doing
like damage control here. But but yeah, she so that
was right before we got married, and it was like
a month before I got married. That game happened and
she was on her batsurette. She's from California, and she
was in California on her boucharette when TCU beat Michigan
(11:10):
to go to the National Championship. And so we had
said like, nah, we don't want to get tickets, like
it'll just put us in a fight, if you know,
if it ends up happening. And I was watching the
tickets and they went down like two hundred bucks and
I was like, I just bought them, dude.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I sent her a screenshot and she was like, no,
you didn't. I was like, yeah I did. We're going
So it ended up good for me. But she was
a she was a great sport through all of it.
I will say that she's she's been a trooper.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That's rough. No, what about your guys' family Outside of
your brother growing up, your dad was big into music
and big influence for both of you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, he uh, he loves music more than almost
anyone I know. I think he just loves it, man.
And he plays guitar a little bit, and he sing.
He can never remember lyrics, but if you put a
if you put a lyric sheet in front of him,
might get it right. So he just loves it, man.
So we grew up around it, you know. We grew
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up around nineties and early thousands country and uh yeah,
we were just kind of indoctrinated into that. And so
he started playing or he played guitar, so we kind
of both started playing a little bit and just had
guitars around the house. And that's kind of one of
the big ways we got into music at all.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And did you just kind of pick up and learn
yourself or did you guys go to lessons or anything
like that too.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I took lessons like probably middle school, and then just
kind of taught myself from there. And I think Sam
Sam started as a drummer, but I started as a
drummer and I was self taught YouTube taught on guitar. Yeah,
put just learning sweet Home Alabama, like playing a d
shape and just rocking with it.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Dude, how young were you Sam?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I was in middle school when I started.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, yeah, okay. And then when did you guys say, hey,
we should do this together? Was that in church like
you were saying growing up or did it come naturally
in college?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah? We started. We both played kind of in different
church things together and then and I was usually the
drummer in those situations. Yeah, yeah. I was usually like
playing guitar and singing in like the classic worship leader
if people are familiar for that, and then Sam would
play drums or something. And then in college we were
kind of doing the same thing, just like for different
campus organizations. And then we were at a show one
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night and just not like a Christian thing, just like
a show, and we looked at each other and we
were like, dude, I think we could do that. Like
what those guys are doing on stage, Like, I think
that could be us. And so we were like, let's
just play some open mics and see what happens. And
it was ju are you familiar with Jude in the line? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they came to Athens and they were literally just having
an incredible time on stage, and like it sounded good
(13:39):
because they're really good musicians, but it was more so
that they were just putting on a show. We looked
at each other like, I mean, we can have a
great time on stage, you know, yeah, we could do that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So it's more so about like the performance and entertaining
people than it was the music at that time. Maybe
not now, but at that time.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Oh initially for sure, because we like, I don't think
I'd ever written a song to that point, and so
we literally started playing open mics, just covers I don't
I don't even know what, and uh, people like started
coming and we got asked to do like we come
play our you know, sorority fundraiser, Well, you come play
our fraternity party, and we were like yeah, sure, and
then it just turned into like this thing where we
(14:16):
were really like, we should probably like start writing our
own songs and figuring out how to get them recorded
and uh, and we should probably have a band name.
Like literally, it all just like we're like what should
we call ourselves? And somebody was like the Tudin Brothers
and we're like, all right, that's rock.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
That's simple.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Like literally, somebody, I think a chick for a like
a sorority fundraiser text with us and was like, Hey,
what should I put y'alls name as on the poster?
And we were just like, I'm the Tudin Brothers, I
don't know and SUF and that's just what it was.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Man, that's awesome. Yeah, and then you guys started writing
songs out to that together. It's one of you. Let
me ask us first. I'll go to you samit. Are
you more of a writer? Are you guys kind of
the same?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We were definitely the same. I would say we'd have
different strengths in the writing room, but we're we both
write pretty much the same amount, and so we both
started writing honestly, probably so in college, yeah, because we
didn't know really the concept of co writing necessarily or
like we'd never been to Nashville didn't know about co
writing being in a writer's room, and so we would
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kind of write songs by ourselves and then come to
each other and say, this is the song I wrote,
and usually one of us, you know, we'd shoot it
down or whatever. But ye could we could kind of
co write from there, you know, and like, well, let's
edit this part in this part. And so I guess
in some way it was kind of the first experience
of co writing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Now I'm just curious. I've talked about this a little
bit on this podcast. Writing a song is something I've
always been like, just I want to sit in one
of those writers rooms just I have no idea what
goes on with if it's a lot, or if it's
a whole lot of nothing just drinking or whatever you're
doing or writing, We'll get you in one that that
would be awesome. I've said that on this before. I'm like,
I need I just want to sit there and just
kind of see how it comes together. And then I
(15:47):
told Eddie from The Big Show one time, I would
like to just have like one I don't know line
in a song, just to say like I've had a
line on the song. I think that would be the
coolest thing and have somebody like performing and be like, yeah,
I had a little just that little influence on that.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We're doing kick off Kevin and a Tuton Brothers song.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I'm you, guys, tell me when and we'll make it happen.
And but I'm alost curious how that comes about. So, like, say, Walker,
you come in with a song. Yeah, do you have
a song finished before you bring it to sim or
are you kind of like, hey, I got this thing started,
now I need your help finishing it or making some
edits to it.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, dude. People ask us this all the time. They're like,
how do you write a song? Somebody else? Bro like,
how does that happen? And I'm, uh, it's how I
I think, Okay, here's how I say. It just happens
differently every time. Like sometimes every songwriter in Nashville has
a list of titles in their phone that they're like,
(16:40):
somebody says, like, you know, somebody says, well, beer never
broke my heart. And then they, you know, they're like,
oh man, that sounds like a song, and so they
write it down their phone and the next day they
bring it into the room. They're like man, this guy
said beer never broke my heart last night, and so
we could write a song about that. And so that
definitely happens sometimes. And then a lot of times people
bring in like a melody idea or like a little phrase,
(17:01):
or sometimes people bring in like a guitar lick or
a track, and you just kind of find like, whatever
idea is kind of like this little spark in the
room that people gravitate to, and then you kind of
try to form a song around that. It's usually how
it works. I think.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Okay, it's a little different. Do you ever write something
down like one night and you're like, this is gonna
be awesome. Then you wake up the next day you're like, yeah,
I'm not even gonna.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Bring that absolutely all time. You ought to go through
my voice memos. It would be embarrassing because it's like
it's midnight recordings and medle be like you know, just
like mumble, like singing into my phone at midnight, like
trying to be quiet, and.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I always sing of that. Like for me, it'd be
like I think of a creative idea for the show
or podcast or someone let's say have them drinking or whatever. Oh,
this is gonna be great, and I write it down
and I look at the next day, I'm like, dude, delete,
delete all that stuff. So it's gonna be the same
for writing, right, Sometimes.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, it's one percent of the same. Man. Well, and
I think too, it's it's a little bit that way
in general, Like like I'll look back at songs we
wrote a year ago or two years ago and think, man,
what were we thinking back then? Which is cool to
like see the growth, you know, of how far we've come.
But it's even like that, like in a moment, it
can feel great, but then you kind of look back
on it and you're like, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, it's weird how that work. Your mind just kind
of has this trickle on you. Yeah, how long you
guys been in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Four and about a half years, Man.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Always been the goal to come here since you started?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
No, No, not at all, Bro in college. I mean
we didn't. I didn't. We didn't start playing music with
each other like for the band until I was like
a junior senior in college. And so I like, we
both have finance degrees. Uh, I worked for Yeah, I know, crazy,
What was I doing? Bro?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Both of you?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I wish I'd done something different. Yeah, I worked a
way too hard for that, but I I mean I
worked like a corporate job for a year out of
school in Atlanta before I move it up here. So
it was it was just one of the things that
kind of kept going. And then I graduated from college
and Sam was a year behind me, and we were like, well,
let's just see where it goes for next year. And
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you know, a year went by he graduated and it
was kind of growing and we were like, well, this
is the only chance we're gonna have in our life
to pursue this, and we love doing it, so let's
go for it. So that's kind of how it happened.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Good for you, And what's it been like in those
four and a half plus years for you, sim.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's been good. It's been great. We got here at
the beginning of tween nineteen and then so we had
about a year and a couple of months and then COVID.
So it's been interesting because we really like had a
good opportunity for a while of like learning how to
co write, writing with other people, zoom writing and everything
(19:36):
before there was any chance really of looks at a
publishing deal. Or anything like that because people weren't really
signing much or anything like that during COVID, So it
was cool to be able to like really hone in
the craft and work on socials and do all that
during that time. And then after you know, COVID, it
kind of opened back up and we started meeting with
publishers and stuff like that. But it's been really good, dude.
(19:59):
I think we I've gotten a lot better. Like I
think even when we would put out our music, like
you know, when we used to put it out, I
would think, man, this is this is good. It's fine,
but I don't like love it like I love so
and so artists, like in my own music. And now
it's becoming more like, dude, I love my music, which
(20:19):
is it's a really good feeling because it's like, man,
I can really be proud of this. And so I
think we're starting to get to that point of like
where we're really really, really proud of And we've always
been proud, like of the effort we put in and
the work we did and how everything turned out, but
now it more feels like this is this is good music.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Honing it in on the craft kind of thing, and
who are some of the people or person that has
helped you guys out.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Dude, I mean I think I mean our publisher Kenley
Flinnett Sony has been a massive help to us. He's
just helped us get connected with other great writers, which
is huge. You know. He's another voice that kind of
helps steer you know, the creative ship, if you will.
And then Ben Huddleston, Yeah, Ben Huddleston, he was He's
(21:06):
one of my college roommates and works for like a
what does he do, like a business management business management
from the time, so basically handles artists and managers money,
but he like managed us for a while and he
was He's been a huge help over the years, just
like helping us do the same thing, like connect with people,
(21:27):
steer that ship, being like, well I like this man.
They're also leaning more to that and just a ton
of stuff, honestly so, because it's tough when you got
two voices, you know, and if it's a fifty to
fifty split on something, then it's like, well, you're you're
kind of running into a brick wall. Because both of
us are stubborn, and I'm probably more stubborn, but yeah,
you like it's nice to have another voice or another
(21:50):
couple of voices that say, yeah, I hear what both
of y'all are saying, but I think this, and I
side with either Sam or Walker, and you're like, all right,
well let's just go if both of y'all think that,
let's go with that. That's been huge for us.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, you talked about earlier performing a couple of shows,
random shows, parties, weddings, this and that. You talk about
a show in Montana. I got to hear more about
the show in Montana about a bare knuckle fight that
you guys talked about a little bit before this that
(22:22):
I saw, and can you tell the story? Walker? Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, dude, so there's a lot to this. You tell
me to shut up if I'm talking too long. But uh,
but we got asked. We got like an email from
a guy named Monty and Montana and Monty Klostoff and
he was like, hey, guys, I heard y'all's music, like
really like it would love to have y'all out here.
We're doing a bare knuckle boxing and nitro circus festival
(22:48):
in Butte, Montana. Were like, what the heck, dude? Well,
we were like instant, like we're in whatever we need
to do to get out there, so we uh. He
basically is a promoter and he put together the show
where a festival two days where the first night they
had bare knuckle boxing and like this uh like kind
of scream oh sort of band, and then the next
night they had a bunch of nitro circus jumps that
(23:11):
they like sit up in a parking lot like dirt
bike stu and flips and stuff, and then they had
us play after that, and so like the big finale
of the night was this dude flipping this like side
by side razor and uh. We were on stage like
literally about to start singing after he flipped the razor,
and it's like yeah, and then the band plays and
he like revs this razor and flips it and it
(23:31):
just lands straight on top.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Of the razor.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Dude, it didn't get all the way around, and everybody
was like oh, and they were like he's okay. And
then it like everybody turned to us and we're like, okay,
we're starting We're gonna start playing now.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I guess everyone goes crazy when you find out like, oh,
he's okay.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Everybody's like so well, it was this big inflatable I
don't know if you've ever seen these, but they land
their landing ramp is inflatable, so it's like if if
somebody crashes it, they're like hitting a soft like a
kind of big inflatable ramp rather than like a hard
wooden ramp or something. And so this razor lands on
the inflatable ramp upside down, like bounces up off of
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it like a bouncy castle, and then hits the just
the pavement to the side, and everybody's like, oh, he's
definitely quiet, and it was like it was like car
wreck sound, you know where you hear that's.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Like yeah, and then you guys have to play a
show up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But it was sick because they're like he's all right,
you know, and everybody's like.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Something straight out of a movie. He's like, he's okay,
and everyone just goes crazy for you guys, like hot Rod.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It was nuts. This okay, last story about it. This
is a There was a guy that fought the first
night and he's the sheriff of but Montana. I don't
know if he still is or not. Great dude met him,
held his baby baby. He's a super cool guy. But anyway.
Uh so, my wife was selling merch for us out there.
I was dating her at the time, and uh she
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was talking to him and he was telling her that
the promoter was trying to get him to fight, like
he was trying to get the sheriff to bare knuckle
box at this boxing match in Montana and he was like,
I'm not gonna do it, and the guy kept bugging him.
He was like, Okay, I'll do it if you get
the Tuton Brothers out here to play.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
No.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
So we didn't know that the whole time, but she
he told my wife that, and so that was pretty cool.
They just found us, Yeah, and he loved our music.
So he was like, I'll only fight if the really
and they were like, dude, I'm sorry. And then he
kept being like, bro, you got to see this picture
of this guy because he just beat the crap out
of the guy. Oh really, And so he kept showing
everybody pictures of the other guy.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh man, so you guys are the one to influence
the sheriff to get in a bare knuckle fight.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, hey man, that's us.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Not many people can say that, by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Dude, that's that's that is a hilarious story.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's awesome. I I was there for that.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
It was fun, man, it was fun.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
What else?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
As we kind of wrapped this up pretty soon here
outside of music, I need to hear. Also, you guys
are in the golf right, both of you?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, okay, okay? You was it? You Walker? The worked
out Augusta.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I did?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You did? What was that?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Like? It was awesome, dude. It was a definitely an
experience of a lifetime for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
How want are you there? How many?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I worked there for semester my senior year of college. Okay,
so it was the twenty sixteen Masters. I was there.
So I was there from like January or like December,
which is like you know, four months before the Masters
through April, which is when the Masters happened.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
What were you doing there?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I was a business affairs intern so I didn't work
for like the tournament specifically, I worked for the golf club.
And basically that entails. It's like a they do a
lot of things, but it's everything from like TV deals
to like press credentialing and press relations to like sponsor relations,
(26:41):
so like you know, they have these sponsors and you're
like taking care of their little you know, their space
or like making sure they have what they need or
whatever it is, and then just st a bunch of
random stuff like I got the mail every day, you know,
just creating.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Whatever you're working out a gusta who gives a crowd, no, dude.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Like literally, I just I take a golf cart and
I just kind of like, all right, I'm going to
get the mail, and I just like drive down number
one And did you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Ever play around?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I did? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
How many I played?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Once? Yeah? They have an employee play day kind of
thing where you know, they let their employees play, which
is really cool. And I got to take my dad,
so that was it was really special, man, It was
it was cool. I have uh you like you hear
about people going to the Masters and like seeing it
and like people like, oh, there's no place like it, dude,
(27:25):
And I don't know. I always felt like there was
probably like some curtain like where like oh you saw
the behind the scenes and you didn't like it. But it, dude,
it's just like great people and they do like everything
they do like really really well, and the attention to
detail is all just like they just really care a
lot about it, which I really I learned a lot
and uh made a lot of really cool relationships went
through that I have nothing but good things to say
(27:46):
about them.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
How far is that from your hometown?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
A couple hours from making probably yeah, two three hours okay?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
And then other some other jobs for you saying that
you had before or jobs that you hated or liked
for music.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, right after college, I worked at a diner and
I was like, I can't do this. It was like
these people are incredible who like just what like I
had gained so much respect for service industry, uh, like
waiters and waitresses and stuff because it was a.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Grind, bro. Yeah what were you doing? You're serving?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I was just waiting tables.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
See that's why I think the old thing is everyone
should work in service industry for even if it was
a couple of months, because you have a whole new respect.
That's why if like your orders messed up or saying
I'm like, it's all good.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Dude, I became a way better tipper.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah yeah, always.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And yeah and then I uh and then I work
construction once we moved up here side hustle.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Okay, now your bowl just full time music right and performing.
Where are you performing at in Nashville anywhere? Like place
writers around stuff?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, just all the writers rounds. I mean I think
we probably played all of it at this point. I
played the Basement. We played our own like ticket to
show at the Basement, the og Basement back in the summer. Yeah,
so I think we sold that out. Yeah close? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
What else you got going on? This year's coming year
in twenty twenty four, dude?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Our goal is to well, we're just trying to put
a lot on the music, man. We're Our goal for
the last year year and a half has been to
put out a song a month. So so we're going
to try to keep doing that. Man, Hopefully when people
are listening to this, uh, you know, we will we
will put out a song that month. So that's the
that's the goal, Man's just keep cranking out music.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Because I'm curious nowadays, I feel like that you always
have to have the next thing, whether it's a song
or a post or content whatever, especially in the creative
world that we're in. Is that do you feel like
you have to keep up because of that or it's
just like a personal goal between you guys where we're like, hey,
this is what we kind of want to do. Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I think both. I mean, it's really cool to be
able to put out our songs and just kind of
do it when we want. But also it's like, man,
if we want to make a splash, like we we
feel like consistency is a huge thing right now, and
so just whether that's with socials or and we just
feel like the more shots you put out there, especially
they got to be quality. But the more shots you
(29:57):
put out there, you know, the better chance have a score.
So that's kind of our mentality on it. And also
we just have songs we right that we're like, man,
we think this is good, we want to put it out.
So that's a big part of it.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Do you ever write a song at Sony with Sony
where you're like, we want to keep this but maybe
they're like, no, we want this for somebody else. Do
you ever have to have that battle or not really yet?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Not really? Did they want us to They signed us
to be like a band, you know, to be an artist,
and so if we write a song that we think
is really great they want us to put it out.
That's awesome so far, so hopefully so far. Yeah, hopefully
that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well, thanks a lot of guys for coming in. This
is a lot of fun. I need to come out.
I need first, I need to get in one of
these writers' rooms. You can come, that would be awesome.
I mean, I'm right, we're right down the street here.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Right, yeah, just walk them down bro.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, perfect, and then I want to come see a show.
Check them out social media Instagram, Tooting Brothers band, stream
their music. Support them, you guys. It has been a
lot of fun. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, man, Thankvan. I love this episode of the Bobby Cast.
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