February 12, 2025 • 47 mins
On this episode of In The Vet's Office, Dr. Josie is joined by Morgan Huelsman, otherwise known as Morgan Number 2 from The Bobby Bones Show. Morgan brings her dog, Remi, and her cat, Hazel to the studio. Dr. Josie starts the episode with a crazy story about a cat that got lost in Yosemite National Park and traveled almost one thousand miles to make it home. Morgan then talks all about her pets including how Remi has become a therapy animal, and how they have even helped weed out men while dating. Morgan tells the story of how one of the guys she was dating used Remi's toothpaste to brush his teeth. Dr. Josie then discusses why you shouldn't give your pets pills without anything on them. And why you definitely shouldn't go looking for a pet on Craigslist.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor
Josie Horchak.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi, everyone, and welcome back to in the Vets Office.
I am your host, Doctor Josie, and today I have
a very special guest. She is no stranger to the mic.
She's a key member of the Bobby Bones Show, known
for her sharp wit, her impressive production skills, and of
course her role as Morgan number two. Most importantly, she
is a dog and a cat mom. Welcome to in
(00:37):
the Vets Office, Morgan Hulsman.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi, if you heard a little bit of Morning and growny,
I believe it was Remy on the microphone over here.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Morgan bro I'm actually very excited because this is a
byod or C bring your own dog and cat to
the podcast, and we haven't been able to do that
because we've been in the iHeart studio, but we're turning
things around. You brought both.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I decided why not bring my whole zoo with me
for you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's amazing. We've got Remy here, who is sitting on
your lap, and then we've got your little kitty Hazel.
She is in her like little is she in her backpack?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yep, she's sitting in it. She's in her space backpack.
I like to call her the astronaut kitty when she's
in there.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's amazing. I love those people bring their cats and all.
We're actually going to talk about this in all different
crazy things to the vet, and this is one of
my favorite, the little space backpacks.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I feel like it's the most that she's comfortable in
Versus if I tried to bring her in a crate
or a blanket, her and I are both going to
have a hard time.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, exactly. And when you're carrying them, I feel like
in the crate, the crate's like bonking on your side
and the cats in there like getting a concussion. So
the backpacks are.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Great, Yes, no, they're perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Highly recommend. Okay, Well, before we dive into all things
Remy and Hazel, I always like to start this podcast
with a case of the week. So without further ado,
this was a case that happened to me when I
was practicing in Chicago. I had I actually never saw
this patient because the owner was getting out of the
car walking through the parking lot with their cat. I'm
(02:01):
trying to remember the cat's name. This was like almost
ten years ago now. It was a little girl kitty.
And what kind of kitty? It was just a gray tabby. Okay,
beautiful little gray tabby. Again, I never met her because
as the owner was coming into the clinic, the cat
was in her arms, jumped out of her arms and
ran away. No, and this cat was missing for weeks.
(02:23):
We everyone at the clinic went outside. We're all calling
for the kitty, looking everywhere for her. She was missing
for weeks. Finally, maybe two or three weeks later, the
owner gets a call and the cat was fifty miles
away outside of the city of Chicago and Aurora, Illinois,
and someone found her on the streets and was able
to take her into the vet. They checked her microchip
and they got her back to her owner.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
See this is my microchips are so important, exactly, it
almost travel so many miles exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And actually this made me think, because I just read
a story on the internet not too long ago of
a cat that was at going to Yosemite, a very
well traveled cat with his owners, and the cat, his
name is Rainbow, ran away. I think something startled him.
He ran into the forest. The owners stayed at Yosemite
for days looking for him. Finally, they're like, Okay, well
(03:10):
we have to go back home. So they drive all
the way back to California, and I think it was
like maybe two or three months later. This cat made
it nine hundred miles from Yosemite to northern California, only
like two hours from his home. Like I think he
was trying to get home and an owner, another owner
found him on the streets, took him in, and they
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got him back to his owner.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That is so crazy. Also, just an animal's intuition amazing.
I've seen so many stories where you're like, there's no way,
but then you see him do it right and you
get it, like he's smart animals did he know?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, nine hundred miles is crazy to think about.
How did he know to go.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
West exactly in the right direction. Their sense of smell
stuff is crazy too, like that. Their ability to just
utilize a smell and just stay on track of it
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They're so much smarter than we give them credit for.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Which is why when you try and train them and
they don't allow it, they are choosing to do that correct.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I'm like, wait a second, so you're just telling.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Me no, Yeah, It's like you know, Hazel loves to
hang out on countertops all the time, and I've tried
and tried to train it out of her, and she
just refuses to listen to me. And that is a choice,
that's oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
She just is like, no, this is my house, you
just pay the rent.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Cats, That's like one of the big things that I
hear owners talk about all the time is cats getting
on the countertops. They are so frustrated by it. I mean,
I guess, if you think about it, your cat's going
in their litter box and then potentially like jumping onto
your kitchen counter afterwards, which probably is not the best
thing in the world, but it's so hard to keep
them from getting up there.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh yeah, I tried the foil thing. And Hazel came
from a rough background, so I think she was actually
used to counters being her bed and that's where she laid.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
She doesn't really know much different her, what was her background.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
She was found as part of a one hundred and
thirty cat hoarding situation in Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Was it really in a house?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, they were in all one home together, and I
think there's also some deceased. The one hundred and thirty
were the ones that were alive.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And she came out the Humane Society of America. I
feel like that's what they're called, is the one that
came in and like got all of these animals. But
then multiple shelters across the country took some in and
thirty The Nashville Humane took in thirty of them, and
Hazel was one of them. Wow was she?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
How old was she? When she was eight?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, which was crazy. I didn't really know. I had
just told somebody there that I really wanted a Siamese
and I wanted to adopt. So if any Siamese came in,
just kind of let me know, I'd foster. Because I
had no idea how Remy was gonna like cats. Remy
had been an only child her whole life, right, So
I was like, ill, foster and we'll try it. I
never asked age. I just took her in and tried
it out and had no intention of figuring out like, Okay,
(05:47):
what's her health, what's her backstory? I just kind of
took her in and as she's getting done with a
dental surgery, she had to have all of her teeth
but one little snaggle tooth pulled.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Funny you say that the minute you said Siamese, and like,
I bet she has bad dental disease. They're like one
of my poster children for having dental problems.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yes, and she so when I first got her, they're like, yeah,
she needs like dental and they give her back to me.
This poor cat only has one her one little just snaggletooth.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I will say for all the listeners out there, if
you're a cat or your dog has to have multiple
teeth extracted, they do amazing. I think a big misconception
for us is like, oh my gosh, how are they
gonna chew? How are they going to do this? And
they do amazing without teeth, so they're not really out
there hunting for their food. They'll be just fine.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, Hazel gums it. And now Remy just had two
teeth pulled recently too, so she's also leaning into her
gumming side. But she still has all four of her
canines were at least working with that. But yeah, they're
both both little old ladies now and they're amazing both.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Famar, did you notice a difference in her personality after
her dental It was.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Hard because I was fostering her, and she still really
hadn't come out of her shell, and so she did
start to come out of her shell after that, so more.
I think that helped significantly and at least her starting
to trust me that she was starting to feel better.
And Remy too, Like I had tried everything. We've talked
about this, like I brushed Rummy's teeth every single night.
I did everything I could to keep Remy's teeth healthy.
(07:11):
And yet still, yeah, it just happened. She happens to
have some breeds in her that that's where it is,
and so I took her in and she ended up
having to have two of her teeth bowl, then the
rest cleaned, and she just she always acts like a puppy.
I think, just a testament to me really taking care
of her health. But even more so now she's like
we're playing all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, she's like this is amazing. Yeah, she does act
like a puppy. I can't believe she's ten.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Oh nobody ever believes it. They see her and she's adorable.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
He comes waddling in, she's got like the little puppy
like booty wiggle going on.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh yeah, but what I call her helicopter tail. It
goes all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. She can get some air with that thing.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
She could.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Okay, back to Hazel really quick, because I'm so interested
in this hoarding situation. Yeah was this this was one
person that had all these cats in their house.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, it's my understanding.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And when she came to It's so interesting because people
adopt pets all the time and we may not know
their backgrounds, and it's really, I think, kind of a
beautiful thing. When they first come to you, they're kind
of a shell of themselves, and then you really start
to see their personalities. How long do you feel like
it took for her to really start like warming up
and coming into her own in your house.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I really feel like it took at least six months
till we really kind of started to establish a relationship.
She's she's gonna go on the board, she's Hazel is
wandering the studio.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We are getting brave now. The mic goes out, it's
because of Paul. Is there cat food in here?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Am I smelling cat food?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It could be it could be her little like body though,
who knows. It also could be her little thing. I
think I've put treats. I'm selling cat treats, but she Yeah,
it took her a long time and even still to
this day. Like she loves, loves, loves people. If somebody
starts petting her, she'll push herself into to continue being petted.
But she's definitely unsure of environments and she's not sure
(08:59):
what's happening around her. She also came with me, came
to me with she was already starting to lose her sight,
but we just recently confirmed she definitely has cataracts, so
she's not seen super well, which also doesn't add to that. Yeah,
so I think a lot of those factors took her
a little bit longer to adjust, but once she did, man,
I mean, and she's great with kids. She's been around
(09:19):
my niece and nephew who she adored and wanted them
to pick her up and.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Love on her. That is very unusual.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, Like she really really came out of herchelle and
she loves if you just even start petting her a
little bit, she just purse constantly, just constant.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Per I think really when we talked about this a
little bit before we started recording, is that a big
bonus here is that she is Siamese, and for all
the Siamese owners out there, they'll tell you they are
like dogs, and so it'd be interesting, you know, if
she wasn't Siamese, if she would have adapted that quickly
because they are like so social and they love to
be around people and interact. So I feel like her
true nature is probably able to come out.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think so too. You know, it's funny there's so
many people who are like, I'm not a cat person.
I'm like, but you have you had a Siamese, because
they will make you cat people because they're so social
and how they interact with the world, and like even
just she mimics Remy. They'll both greet me at the
back door. Hazel will open cabinets to communicate with me
that she is hungry. Right. She is very much a
(10:14):
he's so cute little adventurer, and she just loves to
like act like a dog very much. So, so I
think I've just always been used to that with cats
and that personality. I don't even know a bad cat
because I've just always had this experience.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, Oh, they're the best. And they also are very vocal.
We call them like the huskies of of cats. I
should say, because they're always like wroun wow. Like they
will have a full blown conversation yep.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
If i'm me out back, show me out. We'll sit
there and me out each other and I'm like, I
don't know what we're saying, but this is fun.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
She's like, oh, yes, tell me more about the weather.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yep, exactly, there's something going on, but yeah. The funniest part, though,
is hurt between her and Remy. They'll Hazel loves to
open cabinets when it's food time, and Remy loves to
bark at her when she does that because we're not
supposed to do that and the house Remy is very
much the sheriff. And so it's this funny dynamic that
happens three times a day at my house and they
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every time it's like, Hazel says, mom, food time, cabinets open, Hey,
Remy barks at her, and then if I don't listen,
she then comes and sits in front of me and
barks until I feed both of them.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh my gosh, they're really tag teaming it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh, they absolutely are.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I feel as though you were This is not your home,
this is their home, and you were just I just
pay for it.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Honestly, that's it, but everything else is theirs.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I love it now. Okay, So Remy is the sheriff
and I'm curious because I see her and immedia. I
was like, huh, I wonder what breeds she is? What
did your DNA test her?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah? So funny enough when I went in, I was
volunteering at a shelter when she came in as a
stray puppy and on her little tag her name was Vulpricks.
Vulpricks yep of Pokemon names.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, I'm like, am I missing something?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I didn't know either.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I had to do.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was like, you kind of.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Looked like a Pokemon a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I love to call her an e walk. She gets
very much like an Ewok from Star Wars totally. But
it said Vulpricks and it also said Maltese mix. Well,
my parents at the time had a Maltese and they
adored her. They were looking kind of to get another dog.
It's like, oh my gosh, she's adorable. This would be perfect.
My parents come to meet her and we're all out
in the yard together and Remy is just not leaving
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my side. They're like Morgan, that's your dog. She chose you.
I mean, we love her, she's adorable, but she's chosen you.
And so I'm like, okay, whatever, And I of course
I ended up going on to adopt her. But as
I'm leaving, they're like, that's gonna be a big dog.
She has big pause and I was like, it said
Maltese mix, And now you're telling me we're gonna have
(12:43):
a big dog. So which one is it? You really
never know, No, you really don't. And at that point
I was like, why ared adopted her? Whatever's gonna happen is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That I've already been chosen, So it's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
This is what it is. And as she got bigger,
it was funny when she I actually adopted her, she
was all black. She had all black.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Friends and trying and like make guesses in my head
of what I think she might be. Okay, all black.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yep, So I'm giving you clothes and then you can guess. Okay.
So she was all black and then kind of as
she got a little bit older, she was a little
bit more tan, okay, And now she's kind of grown
into this kind of more white beige and with still
a little bit of her black on it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Does she have wheaten terrier in her?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
She does not? Okay, everybody thought she did. I could
totally see that she has the coloring of a wheaten terry.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
She does is she does she have terrier in her?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
No? No? Really, Well, there could potentially be a version
depending how you identify one of these breeds.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay, a Yorkie, I guess would be not a Yorkie.
Hold on, where are you come back over, Harry?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
She's laying like a little rug on herd. No, she
does not shed can no shit?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Sue there she comes have anise?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Lost off? So remy, what are you? I would have
guessed a million dollars? She would have. Oh you're so gorgeous. Hi, Okay,
I need to know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, she's a poodle okay, yes, and a cavalier in
a cavey.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, she has.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Twelve percent Chihuaha in her.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, my favorite breed's a cavapoo.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm not really sure where the cavapoo comes into play.
Maybe when she barks is about the only time I
really kind of hear it. She's not very lot She's
not a chatty dog at all, so definitely woo wah. Yeah,
definitely more of the kava poo with the h at
the very end.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know, people pay a lot of money for those.
I know she's an expensive girl, but we got her
for free ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I love that, I guess. Yeah, now that you say that,
that makes sense. But the whole like changing of the
coat is very wheat and Terrier esque.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, very much. So that's why for a long time
I really thought she was and so many Wheat and
Terrier owners would come up to her and be like,
you're a puppy Wheat and Terry. No, this isn't an
adult dog you like, she's nine? Yeah, and no she's
not either a whit terrier. It's crazy. I don't get it.
And everybody always thinks she's a puppy and everybody always
thinks that she's like three years old.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well that's amazing. She's got eternal puppy face and like
butt wiggle.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I love it she does her. But the butt wiggle
is signature of Remy too as well. It's to die for.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, so you and Remy do volunteer work together. Tell
me about that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, so we are. We are a therapy Animal Team
Remy and I when I first got her, so we
kind of went through the very big puppy woe phase,
you know, where, oh what did I get myself into?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I definitely know about this. This is really important for
other listeners to hear because I think people feel alone
in that where the first puppy visit, they come in
and they're like, oh my gosh, this is like the best.
This puppy so cute, it sleeps all day long. And
then they come in for their second puppy visit four
weeks later and they're like, what the hell have I done?
This is so much work, And I feel like they're like,
(15:51):
is this a bad puppy? Is it me?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Is it them?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I'm here to tell you, like it is a
very universal feeling. You are not alone.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes. I love to say that any puppy or kid
at that phase is like a toddler and they don't speak,
so you're not gonna understand them or what they want.
You just have to constantly kind of guess yeah. And
also training them to potty outside is a nightmare in itself.
Full time job is I think I got maybe two
hours of sleep every night for the first several weeks
(16:17):
of that experience. It's rough, and I lasted one day
with her being in her kennel at night before I
was like, just sleep in the fricking bed and wear
a diaper and then I'll take you out every two hours.
This is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Like I need my beauty sleep, I do.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This is not working for either one of us, right.
So after she got kind of through her puppy phase,
she was about like six months, she had had all
her shots and stuff, and I took her to a
puppy class. We went through basic puppy just socialization together,
and then from there we did basic training and she
started to love that. I started to really notice she
loved just us being a team together. And then we
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went to advanced training after that. Each of these were
like six week courses and it was us together, so
I wasn't sending her off or anything. We were just
as a team working on training. And after the advanced
one of the instructions had come over and be like,
she's a really great dog. I don't know if you'd
ever be interested, but you should look into therapy work
at some point, and I did, and I like thought
(17:09):
about it but they had to be at least over
two years old because that helps make sure the puppy
stuff is out of them, because therapy dogs go into
hospitals and retirement communities and schools, all kinds of situations,
and they have to be very gentle, and being a
puppy is not very gentle.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, They're like, let me parcore off this elderly man.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes, exactly, yeah, And so I sat on it for
a few years, and then it was like, right before
COVID I had went to I found a place called
Therapy Arc here in Nashville, and I was like, we'll
just go try the test. We'll see if you even
passed the exam to do this. And she passed with
flying colors. She loved her. She immediately even knew to
go into a room and go up to every single
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person that was in the room without even having been trained.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's so cool. What else was like in the test?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
They also see like are they able to sit on command?
Like do they listen to your commands very well? Or
they pulling a lot? Do you have control over them
in situations? Are they more gentle, more calm? How do
they interact with people? How does the person interact with people,
because I think what people forget in the therapy animal
team is that you it's both you and the dog,
(18:17):
right so, or you and the animal. We've had we
have giant rabbits that are also therapy teams. We have
cats that are therapy teams. It can kind of be
any type of animal.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Giant rabbits are a dream come true.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
They are. They're the size of Remy. They're both the
same pound.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
People don't realize they're huge, and they're so amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They are, and they're so fluffy they.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Are their big long ears.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah. The therapy woman who has them, she always pushes
them around in a stroller and it's the cutest thing ever. God,
I love it. So they can be any kind but
as long as they have this very gentle demeanor. And
so Remy passed that with flying colors through to go
into the training program, which we did for six weeks together.
And why I say it's so important on the human
side because when you take the final exam to get
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it's this whole process. You have to know how to
go on elevators. You have to be able to avoid
temptation like toys and treats. They can't say that word
out loud. You have to like just have all of
these basically be a good canine citizen, but then also
just have this extra layer of a calm demeanor and
a loving animal. And so when we went through training,
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they were like, you're going to interact as a human
with the people more than actually rimy is. Rimy's just
the kind of the gateway to get them to start
talking to people or have interactions. And they weren't wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You're a huge part of the equation.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, And if I don't know how to communicate, and
I don't know how to listen to them or ask
them questions or engage in conversation, then we're both just
gonna be sitting there and it's not gonna do anybody
any good. So it was very much a testament one
to our bond together, but also just having the ability
to be wanting to communicate with people. And she was
just kind of that mode of transportation, if you.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Will, that is so special. And something you said is
it's a testament to your bond. And I find that
the owners that really do invest time in training and
doing activities like this, the bond that they have with
their animal I mean, yes, everybody's bond with their animals
is very strong, but it's just enhanced even more.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It is. I can since almost immediately when Remy's not
feeling well, she can tell when something's going on with me.
We just have it. It's a much deeper connection than
just your basic pet and human love, which is already
so big. But Remy and I just on a different level,
are like we're literally it's soulmates in way. It's how
I see it. And Hazel's coming into that equation too.
(20:37):
But like Hazel and I have a different bond because
we weren't able to bond when she was really little
and we didn't go through all these training courses and
things together. So it's a different type of bond.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It is, But that's really special. One thing you said
is you can tell when she's off. And recently we
had a little bit of an episode, yeah, where I
got a phone call from yous are like seven in
the mo Was it from you or maybe Bobby text
me was like, you need to talk to Morgan too,
right now? Yeah, tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, So it's very rare that I don't come into work.
If I don't come into work, something's wrong, Like I
make a point to always be here, And I texted Scuba,
who's our EP, and I was like, I'm pretty sure
Remy's about to have an allergic reaction. I cannot leave
until this is under control. I'm hoping it will be soon,
but I don't know when that's going to be. And
then he I guess he told Bobby, and Bobby text
(21:27):
me is like, is Remy okay? I was like, at
this moment, yes, but I don't think it's going to
go well as this progresses, and I was right. She
started to blow up like a balloon, like her whole body.
Because miss Remy is allergic to everything and something or another.
It wasn't anything that she particularly ate because her food
is we've gotten that out of the equation, but she's
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allergic to so many environmental factors. She's allergic to grass, so.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's kind of hard to eliminate.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's everywhere, and she this dog loves to roll in
it on purpose. So we do really great at avoiding
our allergies. Yeah, but so's something got on her and
she just blew up her whole eyes and her mouth
and her little body. She had hives all over her
whole face was red. She was getting to the point
where she wasn't gonna be able to breathe very well.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
There's a couple of things as an owner that are
really scary, and one of them is watching your dog
have like a very acute allergic reaction. You feel very helpless,
and they're becoming more and more swollen, and you're like,
what do I do? I almost feel you're like running
around in circles like do I go to the bed,
do I not go to the bet and just trying
to figure out what in the heck you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, and it's really terrifying because you feel I feel
like that, and I've watched so many CPR PET videos
to be prepared in case whatever happened. Those are the
two scenarios where I just feel like you feel so
helpless because you're gonna try everything you can but it
may not work right. And sometimes you either live close
to a vet or you don't, or like in our case,
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we have you who is a concierge met and who
does amazing work, but some places don't have that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah. My general rule of thumb for listeners is if
your dog is starting to swell up, their eyes are
starting to swell, their muzzles swollen. You want to seek
veterinary care, whether that's calling like you calling me, or
calling your vet clinic and just checking in with them,
something that you want to take really seriously, and just
like you did, Like I never would have left her
(23:19):
at home alone, because we have seen them get so
swollen that their airways start to close, they can't breathe,
and it can be life threatening. So it's not something
to take lightly.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, and it's you know, it's a really struggle. I
feel for the people out there who are like single
pet owners because I don't have anybody at home that
I can say, hey, I have to go to work
and you can stay here, or we can flip flop
or whatever. It's just me. So in that situation, I
can't call work and be like hey, y'a, i'll be there.
We're gonna I'm like, no, this is me, this is
on me, and I'm really sorry, but this is my
priority right now. Yeah, And it's hard to make that call,
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but you have to.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's really hard to make that call. But being a
pet owner means you know, making them your priority, and
sometimes you have to make sacrifice, and so yeah, I
applaud you for doing the right thing. Is she end
up coming to the studio that day or no.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So she did come up to the studio because then
I was able to get her into my vet, and
so she had actually what we found out, she had
an allergic reaction to a flea bite, and whatever flea
medication stuff she was on wasn't working anymore. She had
either been on it for so long that it just
stopped working for her, or it was no longer strong enough.
We don't really know. But we basically gave her one
(24:26):
of the pills that you can do immediately that gets
that to kind of start activating, and then I had
to wait a couple of weeks and just bathe her.
I was bathing her like every three days. In one
of the Don's dish up, you just see a little
tail in the microphone that was Hazel Don dished up
like every three days. And then finally we got to
a point where I could give her some new medication.
And now we haven't had that issue again.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But we just did a whole episode with Doctor Isabella
this season about allergies, and yes, I feel like is
made for remy a Hazel and we talked about how
one fleabite because the saliva of the flea is what
causes allergic reactions and our pets can send a pet
into a full allergic spiral. So she's like textbook for
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for that sort of response.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh and I did on both of them. I did.
There's which I'm sure you probably probably heard of the
five strands allergy. Are they having a little fight over
there might be okay, they love to playing.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
They're doing sibling sibling love. I think my foot got
in the middle all of that. Oh, Andrew ground shrif.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And Hazel has a really great left right hook.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I know those little videos. I don't know if people
out there watches or maybe it's just me. Of the
cats that are like hitting the like pawing the dogs
is so funny to me.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
She's so good at it, like literally just left right
right away. I'm like, girlfriend, we got to make sure
those nails are always keep the nails in. Yeah, it's
really cute when the nails come out, it's very scary.
It is. They have very long nails, and she's not declad.
I would never do that to her and she but
I have to cut her nails every week, and thankfully
she's really good about it. But now I don't Now,
I don't remember what you had asked me.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What was I What were we asked talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
We had a dog cat fight, little sibling rivalry.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Shit is hitting the fan in the BET's office. I
can't actually remember what we were just talking about. Definitely okay,
yeah again, yes, oh, five strands strands.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I had found this environmental Remy Levy's old one. Literally,
dog and cat fighter. There's a five strands allergy and
environmental tests that you can do with like the follicles
of their hair, and I send it in for both
of them, and you know, I just got really blessed
that I have to animals allergic to everything everything. I
changed both of their diets, I did all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
The whole shebang. Yeah, I only to stay consistent with
the episode that I did. I don't really love those tests.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
The hair and blood tests are like the over the
counter ones that you can buy off Amazon and not
super accurate. Okay, it's when it put like a ton
of weight into them. But if you're making the changes
and you're seeing improvements, that's great. Otherwise, if you're not.
Ohy's like, what come on?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Changing everything? What's going on? Do I need to pick
one of you up?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Just like sits there? And I told you Remy is
the sheriff. If Hazel does anything that, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Heel get in your back back.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
We have we have only child syndromes. It's definitely a thing.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
She's like, wait a second, you're telling you this test
didn't work all that for nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
She so she I really paid attention to the ones
that were in the red that were super intense, okay,
more than I focused on all the other ones. Yeah.
I was like, which things can we start to kind
of pull out? That seemed to be just so overacting?
And that's kind of what I took from it. That's
fair because honestly, other than that's very overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It is very overwhelming. I'm not sure how accurate they are,
so I think taking them with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So if that's something that isn't super accurate, How do
you determine allergies for animals?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Like how is that the most accurate way is to
do intradermal testing? Like how you and I if we
went to the allergist they would do prick you, like
all those little pricks and seeing what you flare up to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh my gosh, these poor animals, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Then we do it all the time. I don't do it,
but the veterinary dermatologists do it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, Like the animals are okay with it. Yeah, I
feel like I would be okay with it. That's why
I say that I'd be a huge baby.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Honestly, the animals are better because I feel like we
are like, oh my gosh, this is so scary. I
hate needles, blah blah blah blah, and animals like it's
such a teeny tiny like they don't even really feel
the prick. They don't have that like preconceived notion that
we do. So they typically do great. So, Yeah, they
can make allergy shots and allergy drops, but that's really
the most accurate way if you're like, I really want
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to get to the bottom of what is causing them
to be allergic.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, Well, I do think so much of Hazel's has
started to get better. I think Hazel it was just
changing honestly to a healthy diet and having enough food
in her system and a lot of the things from
her past.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Actually coming from the hoarding situation, it's like hard to
even know what her baseline is exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So I think we're getting back to there with Remy.
Remy's always been allergic to different foods, and that was
really where a lot of her started. As a puppy,
she would start to react to different things. So I've
gotten used to having to change her diet a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'm used to this.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I am so at least the diet side, we've done well.
And you know, like I said, it gave me knowledge
instead of not having any absolutely, but I'm not totally wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But just you know, there's other options out there. Is
if you ever were like, hey, I feel like I
still we could do more. She still seems to be
really suffering. There's always that option.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That's crazy. I never even knew they did that, I know,
you know, because most places we'll be like, well, we
can do allergy shots. I'm like, well, I don't want
to keep her on. I want to help her, not
just you know, write quick fix right now. I want
to know what it is we're doing right.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
The other thing too, is you could always try We
talked about this with doctor Isabella. But you could always
try the hype wallergenic food and where they do a
diet trial and they eat that and only that for
eight weeks, they don't eat anything else, and then by
week eight, if they really do have a food allergy,
you would see pretty like big improvement.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Interesting, we may have to try that, although I'm not
sure Remy would approve of that. Remmy really likes to
eat cheese. Wait a second, Like I don't get any
of this anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
The hard it is. The hardest part is like sticking
with the plan, especially people that have like toddlers and
they're throwing things over their high chair. But if you
can get on the same page and I tell owners
it's only for eight weeks and then you know at
the end of it and do they have a food
allergy or not, it's definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Well. And it's funny because Remy, Remy's always been I
always joke that es in Hazel when she came into
the picture, they have a better diet than I do.
Like they eat the healthiest food that you can possibly find.
Hazel eats two different types of canned food of all
kinds of different flavors that I rotate all the time
because she doesn't like the same one multiple days in
a row. And they're the like a super healthy brand.
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And then Remy gets half of this brand called the
Honest Kitchen and then half of a human food that
I make, which is mixture of turkey and stowed potatoes,
green beans and carrots, like the dream the most best
foods you could possibly be giving. And it's but it's
a lot. It's a lot to keep up with. And
Remy also has to have supplements and just different things
to help her as she's gotten older.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's a huge undertaking cooking for your pets too. It
is my toet owners, and like that is a lot
of work. People don't. I mean, I can't even food
prep for myself, let alone my animals.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So that's why I say I've gotten really good for
Remy and Hazel. But look at me. I'm like, nah,
I'm fine, but.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
They can they can all just go to Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Literally, I'm like, this is so not how we all
need to be doing this.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, exactly, you know, well I love that. Do they
sleep in your bed with you?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Remy does? As you just heard the little scuffle between them,
Remy doesn't really allow Hazel to come sleep in the bed.
Sometimes she will if she's so tired. She doesn't pay
attention because Hazel's a little sneaky, But yeah, Remy does,
and Hazel would love to whenever she does. Especially when
I go back home, they both sleep in the same
bed together. But for some reason, at my house, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Really so when you travel back to your hometown, they'll
sleep in the same bed together, like we're not in
our normal environment. We've got a band together.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's kind of like that because my parents have three dogs,
and they both kind of like like their space and
they like being a little independent, So I think they
choose to be together versus separate.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
On that that's totally fair. But then we go back
home and it's all back for this week, only we
are on the same team.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's funny how that works.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And when we get home, it's over.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Are you about to tell me not to let her
sleep in the No?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
No, no, no, I'm definitely not. I feel like I'm
like the fear of bad news.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I have three dogs. Two of them sleep on the
floor because they just get hot at night. And then
my little ones like wrapped around my head see, and.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I don't I get it. I know there's like, you
know you sleep better or whatever. I'm like, honestly, I
don't know that I would sleep better. I'd be like,
where are you? Why won't you cuddle me? I like
having used to snuggle.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I love to sleep with my little dog. Biggie is
his name, and he's a small dog.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I know.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
His name when we adopted him was baby Bear, baby Bear,
and he only came to the name baby and my
husband was like, I'm not calling this dog baby. So
we called him Biggie because it sounds, you know, similar
to baby Yeah, and he comes to Biggie though he come,
oh yeah, he's totally Biggie is for sure his name now.
But no, like, he's like my little space heater, and
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he's so cuddly and that I'm all about. If you
want your pets to sleep in your bat with you,
I support you.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know. It's funny too when I'm on the couch
hanging out with both of them, like Rimy will be
cuddled like she's little spoon with me, and if I'm
like kind of turned it all, Hazel will be in
between my knees like back and we're all just I'm
just like, well, we're here until one of you moves.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I feel like I am just gonna have to hold
it for the next twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's exactly. Sometimes I will fall asleep on the couch
if we're all peacefully sleeping there, I'm like, I'm just
gonna sleep on the couch to night best.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
There's no better feeling.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
There really isn't, and I know there will become a
day that I'm going to miss that, so I'm gonna
soak it up every time that I can.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
So you're single, have you ever dated anyone that didn't
get along or like your pets?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah? Yeah, really no, I didn't date them for very long.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's what I don't know why I'm saying, really like
I asked the question.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, no, it didn't last very long. That's honestly. One
of my first questions before I even really start to
consider even going on a date with someone is if
they like animals, because I am a massive animal lover.
I me and you're producer of this podcast have had
this conversation I can't date a hunter, which is funny
because yeah, I just I can't. I could if it
(34:29):
was like out of sight out of mind, you never
bring it home. Yeah, but I just know most hunters
that's not the lifestyle. No, And I just I love
animals so much that if you don't, we're just going
to be vastly on different scales. And you're also not
going to understand me as a human being.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
One thousand percent. It's like in your DNA. I feel like,
if you're an animal lover and you know all the
values like finances, children, all of that, of course is
super important, but like if you don't like animals, that
is right up there.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh yeah, And it's funny. I had I dated one
guy and he oh, he had and all kinds of
red flags, but he was actually really good to my animals.
But something that's really important to me is that I
if I see a straight animal, I am going to
find a way to get it, and I'm gonna get
it to safety. That's just all my plans will be curtailed.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And we were headed to dinner and I saw a dog.
I was like, pull over right now, like I'm gonna
go find out and he was like, no, we're not,
and we're gonna keep going. And I sobbed about this
dog I had never met in my life, but I
was like, this is not going to work for me.
And I remember like sitting in that car being like,
this is so important to me that I can't overlook this.
(35:35):
We broke up for a multitude of other reasons, but
that was something that really stuck in my brain. For
future partners, Yeah, they have to be okay with this
part of who I am.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I feel like you at the first date need to
be like, would you or would you not stop on
the side of the road for a straight animal? I
guess check, No, just save us some time, Josie.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
There's also people that I've met who like purposely hit squirrels.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Oh, don't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm not kidding. Like, they'll purpose and they'll see or
they'll see possums or something. I'm like, stop, I don't
what is that animal doing to you?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I'm calling nine one one on them.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Not only am I not going to date you, You're
going to jail. See that is horrible.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh, the toothpaste one's funny. The toothpape story is funny.
What's this? So I did? I did date a guy
and you know I brushed Ramy's teeth every single night.
Miss Hazel doesn't have to have her teeth brush teeth,
but Rammy gets her teeth brush every night and it
is with my toothpaste. So I never forget that this
is something I have to do. Right. Well, I was
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dating a guy and we were at the point of
him he was staying over and he had went into
my bathroom to brush his teeth and he came out
and he was like, oh, that toothpaste is super weird.
And I was like, what are you talking about. I
have Colgate, Like why is it weird? He's like in
the green bottle and I was like, can you show
me what money you use? And he comes out, I'm like,
it literally says dog faced on this bottle.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You're like, you just brush your teeth with the dog's toothpaste.
I did, and you may or may not be illiterate
because it says dog toothpaste.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
O like, it says it Vet's best dog enzyme toothpaste. Wait,
that is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
They like put like chicken flavor in there.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah. Ah, that's why it tasted a little weird for
this poor guy. And I was like, I'm really sorry,
but that is not my tooth face and he's like, no, died,
what did you guys? Yeah, we didn't work out for
other reasons. But I'm I'm not sure if that did
or did not play a part in that. It's very
possible it did. That is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I have never heard of an owner brushing their teeth
a dog toothpaste.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, and I did it. That's the best part. It's
in my thing all the time. But yeah, that that
poor guy. I think about him often.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You're listening to this, sir, We are sending you our condolences,
our thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Very sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
You might want to use some extra mouthwlaw.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I might have to make sure I also change that
up next time. My data man to have separate toothpaste places.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't know. I kind of feel like that's like
a good test.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Are you aware of your surroundings? Are you can you
read the labels?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Apparently we don't pay attention. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
If you start brushing your teeth and he's like, chicken,
are you gonna stop?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Dang?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay, this is good to know. Remy and Hazel are
helping you sift through the red flags.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Oh they sure are. They're so great at that. And honestly,
if Remmy doesn't like someone, it is a red flag
because she loves everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
One hundred percent. They know and I trust them implicitly.
If you come into my home and my dogs don't
like you, I'm like, I guess you gotta go. Like
they have the best intuition you know.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Also too, like there was a moment in my dating
life where I was in an abusive relationship and Remy
was my main concern. She was a reason that I
couldn't get out, and so I really sympathize with people
when they're in situations like that. And I remember I
got on like a red eye. This is all at
the same time as Bobby's winning Dancing with the Stars
and we're about to go home for Thanksgiving break and
(38:50):
I get on a red eye with Remy. This is
when back when she used to be able to fly,
because she's my emotional sportannel For a really long time,
I had some really bad mental health problems and she
was a great flyer by the way, like never made
a peep, passed out on my lap. She was wonderful.
But she flew home with me and I had to
leave her with my parents for three weeks so I
could go back and get out of my situation. It's
the longest turn I've ever been apart from each other. Wow,
(39:12):
And it was It was huge because that me being
able to take her to my parents was the only
thing that allowed me to get out of that relationship,
because she mattered to me more than I was even
picturing myself in that moment. Right.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Gosh, it sounds like, I mean, you have told me
that your bond is strong, and clearly we've already articulated that,
but you guys have really been through it together.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
We really have. She's been through every moment. I often say,
I'm like, I really have to get married at some
point because she has to be at my wedding. That's
the only requirement I have.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
He's the maid of honor, she is.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
She will be there wherever I am.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So it's gonna make me cry, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
This has to happen, and I will be there too,
But I don't know that Hazel will want to be there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
So they're like, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I like, I'll stay home for this time.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
She's like, I'm sending you my thoughts on prayers I
have said it once and I will say it again.
The dog that you have in your twenties, through all
of your dating and your heartbreaks, and just like growing
up and learning about yourself, Like, there is no stronger
bond than that. You guys are a testament to that
for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
No, there really isn't. And I really cannot possibly fathom
the day that she's no longer here. It breaks my
heart even thinking that that's the possibility. So we like
to think that she is not even halfway there yet.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
No, she has got decades ahead of her.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yes, she might be the one dog that lives forever.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
We are going to bet on it, all right. We
are going to transition to our paw and Order and
we'll be right back. All right. We are back with
Paw and Order, where I tell you things that I
(40:45):
would not do with my own pets as a veterinarian.
Number one on the docket for today is I would
never give my dog a pill without putting something around
the pill. A lot of people will shove it down
their throats or just stick it in their mouth. And
my friend actually just took a pill, laid down and
(41:08):
the pill sort of burnt a hole in ter esophagus,
which humans too. We should always remember, like drink with
lots of water, take with food, because if those pills
or tablets get stuck in your esophagus, they can cause
serious issues.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
No, you're you're putting on my fears that I already have.
You should see me take my like all my stupplements
I take every day. I'm like throwing my head back
because I don't like to swallow it.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
The pawn order segment is very anxiety doucing. I'm not
gonna lie, I'm stressed, but no, it's really important. There's
great things like pill pockets that you can get on Amazon.
I also really like American craft cheese singles. I mean
you can get really any kind of cheese singles, but
I always.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Cut up little cheese cubes and I'll shove it in there.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, cheese, rab it and lunch meat, just something to
coat it. And if you have to give your dog
the pill, like just the plain pill, make sure you
like squirt some water into their mouth afterwards, because I've
seen it and really badly.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh that's a great tip. I would have never known
that that actually was. I just always did because it's
the only way I can get her to take it.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
But that's makes sense, It's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Number two, I this goes back to earlier, but I
would not take my pet to the vet and not
keep them on their leash or in their carrier. And
this obviously goes for the kitty that ran away and
the parking lot. A lot of cat owners especially will
walk into the clinic holding their cats. I see a
lot of pillowcases, like kitties tucked into pillowcases. Those are
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always so crazy to me, which is very cute, and honestly,
if like you're not, it's better than just like holding
your cat, I suppose. But I am a big proponent
of putting them in a carrier or the backpack, having
them zipped up, because them getting loose is horrible. And
then even inside the clinic, like we have dogs and
cats and people and all these things, and I've seen
fights break out in the clinic between the pets. So
(42:52):
just keeping them on the leash, no matter how good
your dog is, it doesn't mean that like everybody else's
pet wants to be greeted.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yes, you know, with Hazel, she's really gotten very curious
of the outside. So even when I let my dog out.
I have to be like a guard to the door
and say you cannot come outside. There's a camera footage
of me running being outside and she peeks her head
out because I didn't think this was gonna be a thing.
And I come like scrambling pig wrestler and get her
(43:20):
back inside. Because you leave, I'm never gonna find you again.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's like wwe SmackDown, yes and coming for you.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I do have like she'll go on road trips and
she runs the car. She's so great at road trips,
which is funny. Most cats aren't, but she loves them.
And I put on a breakaway collar with an apple
tag just in case because at the very least I
can find a path where she might have gone.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I love that You're a great owner.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I try to be. I'm also kind of a helicopter owner. Well.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
The other thing you could get her that I think
are so cute if she really wants to go outside
as the cadio. Have you ever seen those? Are like
little outdoor.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Geocgor Josie, I'm about to this is I'm admitting this.
I'm about to get so. I have a deck in
my house and I'm looking into estimates to get it
all closed in so that she can start going with
this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
This is not a cadio, this is a penthouse.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yep. I'm like, you get more than that. We're gonna
step this up and not. She had eight years of
who knows what.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
So I love that she's gone from hoarding to living
the dream she is. Okay, please send pictures when that
takes place. I want to see all right, Last, but
not least, I would never get a pet off of
Facebook or cragslist, and this brings me back to I
did an episode with Tarin not too long ago and
she got one of her dogs off of Cragslist. I
am not knocking her, I'm just saying that that can
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be very dangerous. A I don't want any of my
listeners to get taken, but also be a lot of
times those are backyard breeders that are breeding and then
probably not doing the most ethical breeding practices and then
selling puppies and dogs to make money. And we don't
want to support backyard breeders.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, I'm with you, doctor Josie. I'm a huge advocate
of rescuing, and if you want any particular breed, you
can find it in a shelter, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, you know what that's It's such a great point.
Even here in Nashville, I do a lot of work
with wags and walks, and we get standard Poodles, Golden Retrievers, Labradors, like,
all the peer breads are coming through the shelters. So
if you were a helmet on having a peer bread,
I'm not gonna judge you. I support you, but make
sure you check your shelters first. And if you absolutely
want to go to a breeder and make sure they're reputable.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
And for sure, I will tell you, like I've had
so many friends who've tried to get Remy alikes because
she is a great dog, and it never works out
because I often tell them the biggest characteristic of her
is that she's a rescued exact, and so much of
that comes from appreciation and understanding that she was saved.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
So one million percent, I say, like those little trust
fund babies that come from the breeders, they do not
know what it's like to live on the streets. They
do not, So the street dogs are where it's at
and they're usually the healthiest. So yeah, I mean I
could go on and on. All right, Well, that really
wraps up our episode for the day. Thank you so
much for coming on.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
You have your own podcast. Can you remind me what
it's called the AA. It's called Take this personally, Take
this personally.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, speaking of Wags and Woks, I had the founder
on recently Wags and Box Nashville. She's talking all about
like the animal and rescue crisis that's happening right now.
It's really sad.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
She's like the queen dog Lady of Nashville. She is.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
And it's like, I say sad because it's heartbreaking, but
it's also just hopeful too at the same time that
there's a lot of people that are doing some awesome work. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
It definitely restores your faith in humanity absolutely. Well, thank
you so much for coming on. I appreciate having you.
I love your pets. Even though like it kind of
broke out into a little bit of World War three
and here.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Welcome to my life. This is the zoo. I did
text you and say I'm bringing the zoo.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
You did, and I was like, bring them.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Well, we really went out with a bang, a dog
catfight bang.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Actually, hey, you're right we are going out with a bang.
And actually this is very fitting because this is our
final episode of season two, which has gone by so quickly.
I've had the best time. At the end of season one,
I was like, gosh, I can't believe it. Now we're
already at the end of season two and it's going
to be a pretty short break. We're already working on
season three, so don't worry. We will be back and
(47:03):
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guys soon
Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor
Josie Horchak.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi, everyone, and welcome back to in the Vets Office.
I am your host, Doctor Josie, and today I have
a very special guest. She is no stranger to the mic.
She's a key member of the Bobby Bones Show, known
for her sharp wit, her impressive production skills, and of
course her role as Morgan number two. Most importantly, she
is a dog and a cat mom. Welcome to in
(00:37):
the Vets Office, Morgan Hulsman.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hi, if you heard a little bit of Morning and growny,
I believe it was Remy on the microphone over here.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Morgan bro I'm actually very excited because this is a
byod or C bring your own dog and cat to
the podcast, and we haven't been able to do that
because we've been in the iHeart studio, but we're turning
things around. You brought both.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I decided why not bring my whole zoo with me
for you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's amazing. We've got Remy here, who is sitting on
your lap, and then we've got your little kitty Hazel.
She is in her like little is she in her backpack?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yep, she's sitting in it. She's in her space backpack.
I like to call her the astronaut kitty when she's
in there.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's amazing. I love those people bring their cats and all.
We're actually going to talk about this in all different
crazy things to the vet, and this is one of
my favorite, the little space backpacks.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I feel like it's the most that she's comfortable in
Versus if I tried to bring her in a crate
or a blanket, her and I are both going to
have a hard time.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, exactly. And when you're carrying them, I feel like
in the crate, the crate's like bonking on your side
and the cats in there like getting a concussion. So
the backpacks are.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Great, Yes, no, they're perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Highly recommend. Okay, Well, before we dive into all things
Remy and Hazel, I always like to start this podcast
with a case of the week. So without further ado,
this was a case that happened to me when I
was practicing in Chicago. I had I actually never saw
this patient because the owner was getting out of the
car walking through the parking lot with their cat. I'm
(02:01):
trying to remember the cat's name. This was like almost
ten years ago now. It was a little girl kitty.
And what kind of kitty? It was just a gray tabby. Okay,
beautiful little gray tabby. Again, I never met her because
as the owner was coming into the clinic, the cat
was in her arms, jumped out of her arms and
ran away. No, and this cat was missing for weeks.
(02:23):
We everyone at the clinic went outside. We're all calling
for the kitty, looking everywhere for her. She was missing
for weeks. Finally, maybe two or three weeks later, the
owner gets a call and the cat was fifty miles
away outside of the city of Chicago and Aurora, Illinois,
and someone found her on the streets and was able
to take her into the vet. They checked her microchip
and they got her back to her owner.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
See this is my microchips are so important, exactly, it
almost travel so many miles exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And actually this made me think, because I just read
a story on the internet not too long ago of
a cat that was at going to Yosemite, a very
well traveled cat with his owners, and the cat, his
name is Rainbow, ran away. I think something startled him.
He ran into the forest. The owners stayed at Yosemite
for days looking for him. Finally, they're like, Okay, well
(03:10):
we have to go back home. So they drive all
the way back to California, and I think it was
like maybe two or three months later. This cat made
it nine hundred miles from Yosemite to northern California, only
like two hours from his home. Like I think he
was trying to get home and an owner, another owner
found him on the streets, took him in, and they
(03:30):
got him back to his owner.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That is so crazy. Also, just an animal's intuition amazing.
I've seen so many stories where you're like, there's no way,
but then you see him do it right and you
get it, like he's smart animals did he know?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, nine hundred miles is crazy to think about.
How did he know to go.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
West exactly in the right direction. Their sense of smell
stuff is crazy too, like that. Their ability to just
utilize a smell and just stay on track of it
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They're so much smarter than we give them credit for.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Which is why when you try and train them and
they don't allow it, they are choosing to do that correct.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I'm like, wait a second, so you're just telling.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Me no, Yeah, It's like you know, Hazel loves to
hang out on countertops all the time, and I've tried
and tried to train it out of her, and she
just refuses to listen to me. And that is a choice,
that's oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
She just is like, no, this is my house, you
just pay the rent.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Cats, That's like one of the big things that I
hear owners talk about all the time is cats getting
on the countertops. They are so frustrated by it. I mean,
I guess, if you think about it, your cat's going
in their litter box and then potentially like jumping onto
your kitchen counter afterwards, which probably is not the best
thing in the world, but it's so hard to keep
them from getting up there.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh yeah, I tried the foil thing. And Hazel came
from a rough background, so I think she was actually
used to counters being her bed and that's where she laid.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
She doesn't really know much different her, what was her background.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
She was found as part of a one hundred and
thirty cat hoarding situation in Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Was it really in a house?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, they were in all one home together, and I
think there's also some deceased. The one hundred and thirty
were the ones that were alive.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And she came out the Humane Society of America. I
feel like that's what they're called, is the one that
came in and like got all of these animals. But
then multiple shelters across the country took some in and
thirty The Nashville Humane took in thirty of them, and
Hazel was one of them. Wow was she?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
How old was she? When she was eight?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, which was crazy. I didn't really know. I had
just told somebody there that I really wanted a Siamese
and I wanted to adopt. So if any Siamese came in,
just kind of let me know, I'd foster. Because I
had no idea how Remy was gonna like cats. Remy
had been an only child her whole life, right, So
I was like, ill, foster and we'll try it. I
never asked age. I just took her in and tried
it out and had no intention of figuring out like, Okay,
(05:47):
what's her health, what's her backstory? I just kind of
took her in and as she's getting done with a
dental surgery, she had to have all of her teeth
but one little snaggle tooth pulled.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Funny you say that the minute you said Siamese, and like,
I bet she has bad dental disease. They're like one
of my poster children for having dental problems.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yes, and she so when I first got her, they're like, yeah,
she needs like dental and they give her back to me.
This poor cat only has one her one little just snaggletooth.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I will say for all the listeners out there, if
you're a cat or your dog has to have multiple
teeth extracted, they do amazing. I think a big misconception
for us is like, oh my gosh, how are they
gonna chew? How are they going to do this? And
they do amazing without teeth, so they're not really out
there hunting for their food. They'll be just fine.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, Hazel gums it. And now Remy just had two
teeth pulled recently too, so she's also leaning into her
gumming side. But she still has all four of her
canines were at least working with that. But yeah, they're
both both little old ladies now and they're amazing both.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Famar, did you notice a difference in her personality after
her dental It was.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Hard because I was fostering her, and she still really
hadn't come out of her shell, and so she did
start to come out of her shell after that, so more.
I think that helped significantly and at least her starting
to trust me that she was starting to feel better.
And Remy too, Like I had tried everything. We've talked
about this, like I brushed Rummy's teeth every single night.
I did everything I could to keep Remy's teeth healthy.
(07:11):
And yet still, yeah, it just happened. She happens to
have some breeds in her that that's where it is,
and so I took her in and she ended up
having to have two of her teeth bowl, then the
rest cleaned, and she just she always acts like a puppy.
I think, just a testament to me really taking care
of her health. But even more so now she's like
we're playing all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, she's like this is amazing. Yeah, she does act
like a puppy. I can't believe she's ten.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Oh nobody ever believes it. They see her and she's adorable.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
He comes waddling in, she's got like the little puppy
like booty wiggle going on.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh yeah, but what I call her helicopter tail. It
goes all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. She can get some air with that thing.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
She could.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Okay, back to Hazel really quick, because I'm so interested
in this hoarding situation. Yeah was this this was one
person that had all these cats in their house.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, it's my understanding.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And when she came to It's so interesting because people
adopt pets all the time and we may not know
their backgrounds, and it's really, I think, kind of a
beautiful thing. When they first come to you, they're kind
of a shell of themselves, and then you really start
to see their personalities. How long do you feel like
it took for her to really start like warming up
and coming into her own in your house.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I really feel like it took at least six months
till we really kind of started to establish a relationship.
She's she's gonna go on the board, she's Hazel is
wandering the studio.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We are getting brave now. The mic goes out, it's
because of Paul. Is there cat food in here?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Am I smelling cat food?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It could be it could be her little like body though,
who knows. It also could be her little thing. I
think I've put treats. I'm selling cat treats, but she Yeah,
it took her a long time and even still to
this day. Like she loves, loves, loves people. If somebody
starts petting her, she'll push herself into to continue being petted.
But she's definitely unsure of environments and she's not sure
(08:59):
what's happening around her. She also came with me, came
to me with she was already starting to lose her sight,
but we just recently confirmed she definitely has cataracts, so
she's not seen super well, which also doesn't add to that. Yeah,
so I think a lot of those factors took her
a little bit longer to adjust, but once she did, man,
I mean, and she's great with kids. She's been around
(09:19):
my niece and nephew who she adored and wanted them
to pick her up and.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Love on her. That is very unusual.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, Like she really really came out of herchelle and
she loves if you just even start petting her a
little bit, she just purse constantly, just constant.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Per I think really when we talked about this a
little bit before we started recording, is that a big
bonus here is that she is Siamese, and for all
the Siamese owners out there, they'll tell you they are
like dogs, and so it'd be interesting, you know, if
she wasn't Siamese, if she would have adapted that quickly
because they are like so social and they love to
be around people and interact. So I feel like her
true nature is probably able to come out.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think so too. You know, it's funny there's so
many people who are like, I'm not a cat person.
I'm like, but you have you had a Siamese, because
they will make you cat people because they're so social
and how they interact with the world, and like even
just she mimics Remy. They'll both greet me at the
back door. Hazel will open cabinets to communicate with me
that she is hungry. Right. She is very much a
(10:14):
he's so cute little adventurer, and she just loves to
like act like a dog very much. So, so I
think I've just always been used to that with cats
and that personality. I don't even know a bad cat
because I've just always had this experience.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, Oh, they're the best. And they also are very vocal.
We call them like the huskies of of cats. I
should say, because they're always like wroun wow. Like they
will have a full blown conversation yep.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
If i'm me out back, show me out. We'll sit
there and me out each other and I'm like, I
don't know what we're saying, but this is fun.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
She's like, oh, yes, tell me more about the weather.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yep, exactly, there's something going on, but yeah. The funniest part, though,
is hurt between her and Remy. They'll Hazel loves to
open cabinets when it's food time, and Remy loves to
bark at her when she does that because we're not
supposed to do that and the house Remy is very
much the sheriff. And so it's this funny dynamic that
happens three times a day at my house and they
(11:10):
every time it's like, Hazel says, mom, food time, cabinets open, Hey,
Remy barks at her, and then if I don't listen,
she then comes and sits in front of me and
barks until I feed both of them.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh my gosh, they're really tag teaming it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh, they absolutely are.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I feel as though you were This is not your home,
this is their home, and you were just I just
pay for it.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Honestly, that's it, but everything else is theirs.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I love it now. Okay, So Remy is the sheriff
and I'm curious because I see her and immedia. I
was like, huh, I wonder what breeds she is? What
did your DNA test her?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah? So funny enough when I went in, I was
volunteering at a shelter when she came in as a
stray puppy and on her little tag her name was Vulpricks.
Vulpricks yep of Pokemon names.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, I'm like, am I missing something?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I didn't know either.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I had to do.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was like, you kind of.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Looked like a Pokemon a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I love to call her an e walk. She gets
very much like an Ewok from Star Wars totally. But
it said Vulpricks and it also said Maltese mix. Well,
my parents at the time had a Maltese and they
adored her. They were looking kind of to get another dog.
It's like, oh my gosh, she's adorable. This would be perfect.
My parents come to meet her and we're all out
in the yard together and Remy is just not leaving
(12:23):
my side. They're like Morgan, that's your dog. She chose you.
I mean, we love her, she's adorable, but she's chosen you.
And so I'm like, okay, whatever, And I of course
I ended up going on to adopt her. But as
I'm leaving, they're like, that's gonna be a big dog.
She has big pause and I was like, it said
Maltese mix, And now you're telling me we're gonna have
(12:43):
a big dog. So which one is it? You really
never know, No, you really don't. And at that point
I was like, why ared adopted her? Whatever's gonna happen is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That I've already been chosen, So it's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
This is what it is. And as she got bigger,
it was funny when she I actually adopted her, she
was all black. She had all black.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Friends and trying and like make guesses in my head
of what I think she might be. Okay, all black.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yep, So I'm giving you clothes and then you can guess. Okay.
So she was all black and then kind of as
she got a little bit older, she was a little
bit more tan, okay, And now she's kind of grown
into this kind of more white beige and with still
a little bit of her black on it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Does she have wheaten terrier in her?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
She does not? Okay, everybody thought she did. I could
totally see that she has the coloring of a wheaten terry.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
She does is she does she have terrier in her?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
No? No? Really, Well, there could potentially be a version
depending how you identify one of these breeds.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay, a Yorkie, I guess would be not a Yorkie.
Hold on, where are you come back over, Harry?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
She's laying like a little rug on herd. No, she
does not shed can no shit?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Sue there she comes have anise?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Lost off? So remy, what are you? I would have
guessed a million dollars? She would have. Oh you're so gorgeous. Hi, Okay,
I need to know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, she's a poodle okay, yes, and a cavalier in
a cavey.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, she has.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Twelve percent Chihuaha in her.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, my favorite breed's a cavapoo.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm not really sure where the cavapoo comes into play.
Maybe when she barks is about the only time I
really kind of hear it. She's not very lot She's
not a chatty dog at all, so definitely woo wah. Yeah,
definitely more of the kava poo with the h at
the very end.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know, people pay a lot of money for those.
I know she's an expensive girl, but we got her
for free ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I love that, I guess. Yeah, now that you say that,
that makes sense. But the whole like changing of the
coat is very wheat and Terrier esque.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, very much. So that's why for a long time
I really thought she was and so many Wheat and
Terrier owners would come up to her and be like,
you're a puppy Wheat and Terry. No, this isn't an
adult dog you like, she's nine? Yeah, and no she's
not either a whit terrier. It's crazy. I don't get it.
And everybody always thinks she's a puppy and everybody always
thinks that she's like three years old.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well that's amazing. She's got eternal puppy face and like
butt wiggle.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I love it she does her. But the butt wiggle
is signature of Remy too as well. It's to die for.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, so you and Remy do volunteer work together. Tell
me about that.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, so we are. We are a therapy Animal Team
Remy and I when I first got her, so we
kind of went through the very big puppy woe phase,
you know, where, oh what did I get myself into?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I definitely know about this. This is really important for
other listeners to hear because I think people feel alone
in that where the first puppy visit, they come in
and they're like, oh my gosh, this is like the best.
This puppy so cute, it sleeps all day long. And
then they come in for their second puppy visit four
weeks later and they're like, what the hell have I done?
This is so much work, And I feel like they're like,
(15:51):
is this a bad puppy? Is it me?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Is it them?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And I'm here to tell you, like it is a
very universal feeling. You are not alone.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes. I love to say that any puppy or kid
at that phase is like a toddler and they don't speak,
so you're not gonna understand them or what they want.
You just have to constantly kind of guess yeah. And
also training them to potty outside is a nightmare in itself.
Full time job is I think I got maybe two
hours of sleep every night for the first several weeks
(16:17):
of that experience. It's rough, and I lasted one day
with her being in her kennel at night before I
was like, just sleep in the fricking bed and wear
a diaper and then I'll take you out every two hours.
This is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Like I need my beauty sleep, I do.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This is not working for either one of us, right.
So after she got kind of through her puppy phase,
she was about like six months, she had had all
her shots and stuff, and I took her to a
puppy class. We went through basic puppy just socialization together,
and then from there we did basic training and she
started to love that. I started to really notice she
loved just us being a team together. And then we
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went to advanced training after that. Each of these were
like six week courses and it was us together, so
I wasn't sending her off or anything. We were just
as a team working on training. And after the advanced
one of the instructions had come over and be like,
she's a really great dog. I don't know if you'd
ever be interested, but you should look into therapy work
at some point, and I did, and I like thought
(17:09):
about it but they had to be at least over
two years old because that helps make sure the puppy
stuff is out of them, because therapy dogs go into
hospitals and retirement communities and schools, all kinds of situations,
and they have to be very gentle, and being a
puppy is not very gentle.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, They're like, let me parcore off this elderly man.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes, exactly, yeah, And so I sat on it for
a few years, and then it was like, right before
COVID I had went to I found a place called
Therapy Arc here in Nashville, and I was like, we'll
just go try the test. We'll see if you even
passed the exam to do this. And she passed with
flying colors. She loved her. She immediately even knew to
go into a room and go up to every single
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person that was in the room without even having been trained.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's so cool. What else was like in the test?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
They also see like are they able to sit on command?
Like do they listen to your commands very well? Or
they pulling a lot? Do you have control over them
in situations? Are they more gentle, more calm? How do
they interact with people? How does the person interact with people,
because I think what people forget in the therapy animal
team is that you it's both you and the dog,
(18:17):
right so, or you and the animal. We've had we
have giant rabbits that are also therapy teams. We have
cats that are therapy teams. It can kind of be
any type of animal.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Giant rabbits are a dream come true.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
They are. They're the size of Remy. They're both the
same pound.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
People don't realize they're huge, and they're so amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They are, and they're so fluffy they.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Are their big long ears.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah. The therapy woman who has them, she always pushes
them around in a stroller and it's the cutest thing ever. God,
I love it. So they can be any kind but
as long as they have this very gentle demeanor. And
so Remy passed that with flying colors through to go
into the training program, which we did for six weeks together.
And why I say it's so important on the human
side because when you take the final exam to get
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it's this whole process. You have to know how to
go on elevators. You have to be able to avoid
temptation like toys and treats. They can't say that word
out loud. You have to like just have all of
these basically be a good canine citizen, but then also
just have this extra layer of a calm demeanor and
a loving animal. And so when we went through training,
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they were like, you're going to interact as a human
with the people more than actually rimy is. Rimy's just
the kind of the gateway to get them to start
talking to people or have interactions. And they weren't wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You're a huge part of the equation.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, And if I don't know how to communicate, and
I don't know how to listen to them or ask
them questions or engage in conversation, then we're both just
gonna be sitting there and it's not gonna do anybody
any good. So it was very much a testament one
to our bond together, but also just having the ability
to be wanting to communicate with people. And she was
just kind of that mode of transportation, if you.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Will, that is so special. And something you said is
it's a testament to your bond. And I find that
the owners that really do invest time in training and
doing activities like this, the bond that they have with
their animal I mean, yes, everybody's bond with their animals
is very strong, but it's just enhanced even more.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It is. I can since almost immediately when Remy's not
feeling well, she can tell when something's going on with me.
We just have it. It's a much deeper connection than
just your basic pet and human love, which is already
so big. But Remy and I just on a different level,
are like we're literally it's soulmates in way. It's how
I see it. And Hazel's coming into that equation too.
(20:37):
But like Hazel and I have a different bond because
we weren't able to bond when she was really little
and we didn't go through all these training courses and
things together. So it's a different type of bond.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It is, But that's really special. One thing you said
is you can tell when she's off. And recently we
had a little bit of an episode, yeah, where I
got a phone call from yous are like seven in
the mo Was it from you or maybe Bobby text
me was like, you need to talk to Morgan too,
right now? Yeah, tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, So it's very rare that I don't come into work.
If I don't come into work, something's wrong, Like I
make a point to always be here, And I texted Scuba,
who's our EP, and I was like, I'm pretty sure
Remy's about to have an allergic reaction. I cannot leave
until this is under control. I'm hoping it will be soon,
but I don't know when that's going to be. And
then he I guess he told Bobby, and Bobby text
(21:27):
me is like, is Remy okay? I was like, at
this moment, yes, but I don't think it's going to
go well as this progresses, and I was right. She
started to blow up like a balloon, like her whole body.
Because miss Remy is allergic to everything and something or another.
It wasn't anything that she particularly ate because her food
is we've gotten that out of the equation, but she's
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allergic to so many environmental factors. She's allergic to grass, so.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's kind of hard to eliminate.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's everywhere, and she this dog loves to roll in
it on purpose. So we do really great at avoiding
our allergies. Yeah, but so's something got on her and
she just blew up her whole eyes and her mouth
and her little body. She had hives all over her
whole face was red. She was getting to the point
where she wasn't gonna be able to breathe very well.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
There's a couple of things as an owner that are
really scary, and one of them is watching your dog
have like a very acute allergic reaction. You feel very helpless,
and they're becoming more and more swollen, and you're like,
what do I do? I almost feel you're like running
around in circles like do I go to the bed,
do I not go to the bet and just trying
to figure out what in the heck you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, and it's really terrifying because you feel I feel
like that, and I've watched so many CPR PET videos
to be prepared in case whatever happened. Those are the
two scenarios where I just feel like you feel so
helpless because you're gonna try everything you can but it
may not work right. And sometimes you either live close
to a vet or you don't, or like in our case,
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we have you who is a concierge met and who
does amazing work, but some places don't have that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah. My general rule of thumb for listeners is if
your dog is starting to swell up, their eyes are
starting to swell, their muzzles swollen. You want to seek
veterinary care, whether that's calling like you calling me, or
calling your vet clinic and just checking in with them,
something that you want to take really seriously, and just
like you did, Like I never would have left her
(23:19):
at home alone, because we have seen them get so
swollen that their airways start to close, they can't breathe,
and it can be life threatening. So it's not something
to take lightly.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, and it's you know, it's a really struggle. I
feel for the people out there who are like single
pet owners because I don't have anybody at home that
I can say, hey, I have to go to work
and you can stay here, or we can flip flop
or whatever. It's just me. So in that situation, I
can't call work and be like hey, y'a, i'll be there.
We're gonna I'm like, no, this is me, this is
on me, and I'm really sorry, but this is my
priority right now. Yeah, And it's hard to make that call,
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but you have to.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's really hard to make that call. But being a
pet owner means you know, making them your priority, and
sometimes you have to make sacrifice, and so yeah, I
applaud you for doing the right thing. Is she end
up coming to the studio that day or no.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So she did come up to the studio because then
I was able to get her into my vet, and
so she had actually what we found out, she had
an allergic reaction to a flea bite, and whatever flea
medication stuff she was on wasn't working anymore. She had
either been on it for so long that it just
stopped working for her, or it was no longer strong enough.
We don't really know. But we basically gave her one
(24:26):
of the pills that you can do immediately that gets
that to kind of start activating, and then I had
to wait a couple of weeks and just bathe her.
I was bathing her like every three days. In one
of the Don's dish up, you just see a little
tail in the microphone that was Hazel Don dished up
like every three days. And then finally we got to
a point where I could give her some new medication.
And now we haven't had that issue again.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But we just did a whole episode with Doctor Isabella
this season about allergies, and yes, I feel like is
made for remy a Hazel and we talked about how
one fleabite because the saliva of the flea is what
causes allergic reactions and our pets can send a pet
into a full allergic spiral. So she's like textbook for
(25:10):
for that sort of response.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh and I did on both of them. I did.
There's which I'm sure you probably probably heard of the
five strands allergy. Are they having a little fight over
there might be okay, they love to playing.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
They're doing sibling sibling love. I think my foot got
in the middle all of that. Oh, Andrew ground shrif.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And Hazel has a really great left right hook.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I know those little videos. I don't know if people
out there watches or maybe it's just me. Of the
cats that are like hitting the like pawing the dogs
is so funny to me.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
She's so good at it, like literally just left right
right away. I'm like, girlfriend, we got to make sure
those nails are always keep the nails in. Yeah, it's
really cute when the nails come out, it's very scary.
It is. They have very long nails, and she's not declad.
I would never do that to her and she but
I have to cut her nails every week, and thankfully
she's really good about it. But now I don't Now,
I don't remember what you had asked me.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What was I What were we asked talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
We had a dog cat fight, little sibling rivalry.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Shit is hitting the fan in the BET's office. I
can't actually remember what we were just talking about. Definitely okay,
yeah again, yes, oh, five strands strands.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I had found this environmental Remy Levy's old one. Literally,
dog and cat fighter. There's a five strands allergy and
environmental tests that you can do with like the follicles
of their hair, and I send it in for both
of them, and you know, I just got really blessed
that I have to animals allergic to everything everything. I
changed both of their diets, I did all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
The whole shebang. Yeah, I only to stay consistent with
the episode that I did. I don't really love those tests.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
The hair and blood tests are like the over the
counter ones that you can buy off Amazon and not
super accurate. Okay, it's when it put like a ton
of weight into them. But if you're making the changes
and you're seeing improvements, that's great. Otherwise, if you're not.
Ohy's like, what come on?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Changing everything? What's going on? Do I need to pick
one of you up?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Just like sits there? And I told you Remy is
the sheriff. If Hazel does anything that, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Heel get in your back back.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
We have we have only child syndromes. It's definitely a thing.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
She's like, wait a second, you're telling you this test
didn't work all that for nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
She so she I really paid attention to the ones
that were in the red that were super intense, okay,
more than I focused on all the other ones. Yeah.
I was like, which things can we start to kind
of pull out? That seemed to be just so overacting?
And that's kind of what I took from it. That's
fair because honestly, other than that's very overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It is very overwhelming. I'm not sure how accurate they are,
so I think taking them with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So if that's something that isn't super accurate, How do
you determine allergies for animals?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Like how is that the most accurate way is to
do intradermal testing? Like how you and I if we
went to the allergist they would do prick you, like
all those little pricks and seeing what you flare up to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Oh my gosh, these poor animals, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Then we do it all the time. I don't do it,
but the veterinary dermatologists do it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, Like the animals are okay with it. Yeah, I
feel like I would be okay with it. That's why
I say that I'd be a huge baby.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Honestly, the animals are better because I feel like we
are like, oh my gosh, this is so scary. I
hate needles, blah blah blah blah, and animals like it's
such a teeny tiny like they don't even really feel
the prick. They don't have that like preconceived notion that
we do. So they typically do great. So, Yeah, they
can make allergy shots and allergy drops, but that's really
the most accurate way if you're like, I really want
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to get to the bottom of what is causing them
to be allergic.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, Well, I do think so much of Hazel's has
started to get better. I think Hazel it was just
changing honestly to a healthy diet and having enough food
in her system and a lot of the things from
her past.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Actually coming from the hoarding situation, it's like hard to
even know what her baseline is exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So I think we're getting back to there with Remy.
Remy's always been allergic to different foods, and that was
really where a lot of her started. As a puppy,
she would start to react to different things. So I've
gotten used to having to change her diet a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'm used to this.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I am so at least the diet side, we've done well.
And you know, like I said, it gave me knowledge
instead of not having any absolutely, but I'm not totally wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But just you know, there's other options out there. Is
if you ever were like, hey, I feel like I
still we could do more. She still seems to be
really suffering. There's always that option.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
That's crazy. I never even knew they did that, I know,
you know, because most places we'll be like, well, we
can do allergy shots. I'm like, well, I don't want
to keep her on. I want to help her, not
just you know, write quick fix right now. I want
to know what it is we're doing right.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
The other thing too, is you could always try We
talked about this with doctor Isabella. But you could always
try the hype wallergenic food and where they do a
diet trial and they eat that and only that for
eight weeks, they don't eat anything else, and then by
week eight, if they really do have a food allergy,
you would see pretty like big improvement.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Interesting, we may have to try that, although I'm not
sure Remy would approve of that. Remmy really likes to
eat cheese. Wait a second, Like I don't get any
of this anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
The hard it is. The hardest part is like sticking
with the plan, especially people that have like toddlers and
they're throwing things over their high chair. But if you
can get on the same page and I tell owners
it's only for eight weeks and then you know at
the end of it and do they have a food
allergy or not, it's definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Well. And it's funny because Remy, Remy's always been I
always joke that es in Hazel when she came into
the picture, they have a better diet than I do.
Like they eat the healthiest food that you can possibly find.
Hazel eats two different types of canned food of all
kinds of different flavors that I rotate all the time
because she doesn't like the same one multiple days in
a row. And they're the like a super healthy brand.
(30:58):
And then Remy gets half of this brand called the
Honest Kitchen and then half of a human food that
I make, which is mixture of turkey and stowed potatoes,
green beans and carrots, like the dream the most best
foods you could possibly be giving. And it's but it's
a lot. It's a lot to keep up with. And
Remy also has to have supplements and just different things
to help her as she's gotten older.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's a huge undertaking cooking for your pets too. It
is my toet owners, and like that is a lot
of work. People don't. I mean, I can't even food
prep for myself, let alone my animals.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
So that's why I say I've gotten really good for
Remy and Hazel. But look at me. I'm like, nah,
I'm fine, but.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
They can they can all just go to Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Literally, I'm like, this is so not how we all
need to be doing this.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, exactly, you know, well I love that. Do they
sleep in your bed with you?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Remy does? As you just heard the little scuffle between them,
Remy doesn't really allow Hazel to come sleep in the bed.
Sometimes she will if she's so tired. She doesn't pay
attention because Hazel's a little sneaky, But yeah, Remy does,
and Hazel would love to whenever she does. Especially when
I go back home, they both sleep in the same
bed together. But for some reason, at my house, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Really so when you travel back to your hometown, they'll
sleep in the same bed together, like we're not in
our normal environment. We've got a band together.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's kind of like that because my parents have three dogs,
and they both kind of like like their space and
they like being a little independent, So I think they
choose to be together versus separate.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
On that that's totally fair. But then we go back
home and it's all back for this week, only we
are on the same team.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's funny how that works.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And when we get home, it's over.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Are you about to tell me not to let her
sleep in the No?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
No, no, no, I'm definitely not. I feel like I'm
like the fear of bad news.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I have three dogs. Two of them sleep on the
floor because they just get hot at night. And then
my little ones like wrapped around my head see, and.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I don't I get it. I know there's like, you
know you sleep better or whatever. I'm like, honestly, I
don't know that I would sleep better. I'd be like,
where are you? Why won't you cuddle me? I like
having used to snuggle.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I love to sleep with my little dog. Biggie is
his name, and he's a small dog.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I know.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
His name when we adopted him was baby Bear, baby Bear,
and he only came to the name baby and my
husband was like, I'm not calling this dog baby. So
we called him Biggie because it sounds, you know, similar
to baby Yeah, and he comes to Biggie though he come,
oh yeah, he's totally Biggie is for sure his name now.
But no, like, he's like my little space heater, and
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he's so cuddly and that I'm all about. If you
want your pets to sleep in your bat with you,
I support you.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know. It's funny too when I'm on the couch
hanging out with both of them, like Rimy will be
cuddled like she's little spoon with me, and if I'm
like kind of turned it all, Hazel will be in
between my knees like back and we're all just I'm
just like, well, we're here until one of you moves.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I feel like I am just gonna have to hold
it for the next twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's exactly. Sometimes I will fall asleep on the couch
if we're all peacefully sleeping there, I'm like, I'm just
gonna sleep on the couch to night best.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
There's no better feeling.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
There really isn't, and I know there will become a
day that I'm going to miss that, so I'm gonna
soak it up every time that I can.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
So you're single, have you ever dated anyone that didn't
get along or like your pets?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah? Yeah, really no, I didn't date them for very long.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's what I don't know why I'm saying, really like
I asked the question.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, no, it didn't last very long. That's honestly. One
of my first questions before I even really start to
consider even going on a date with someone is if
they like animals, because I am a massive animal lover.
I me and you're producer of this podcast have had
this conversation I can't date a hunter, which is funny
because yeah, I just I can't. I could if it
(34:29):
was like out of sight out of mind, you never
bring it home. Yeah, but I just know most hunters
that's not the lifestyle. No, And I just I love
animals so much that if you don't, we're just going
to be vastly on different scales. And you're also not
going to understand me as a human being.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
One thousand percent. It's like in your DNA. I feel like,
if you're an animal lover and you know all the
values like finances, children, all of that, of course is
super important, but like if you don't like animals, that
is right up there.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Oh yeah, And it's funny. I had I dated one
guy and he oh, he had and all kinds of
red flags, but he was actually really good to my animals.
But something that's really important to me is that I
if I see a straight animal, I am going to
find a way to get it, and I'm gonna get
it to safety. That's just all my plans will be curtailed.
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And we were headed to dinner and I saw a dog.
I was like, pull over right now, like I'm gonna
go find out and he was like, no, we're not,
and we're gonna keep going. And I sobbed about this
dog I had never met in my life, but I
was like, this is not going to work for me.
And I remember like sitting in that car being like,
this is so important to me that I can't overlook this.
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We broke up for a multitude of other reasons, but
that was something that really stuck in my brain. For
future partners, Yeah, they have to be okay with this
part of who I am.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I feel like you at the first date need to
be like, would you or would you not stop on
the side of the road for a straight animal? I
guess check, No, just save us some time, Josie.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
There's also people that I've met who like purposely hit squirrels.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Oh, don't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm not kidding. Like, they'll purpose and they'll see or
they'll see possums or something. I'm like, stop, I don't
what is that animal doing to you?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I'm calling nine one one on them.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Not only am I not going to date you, You're
going to jail. See that is horrible.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh, the toothpaste one's funny. The toothpape story is funny.
What's this? So I did? I did date a guy
and you know I brushed Ramy's teeth every single night.
Miss Hazel doesn't have to have her teeth brush teeth,
but Rammy gets her teeth brush every night and it
is with my toothpaste. So I never forget that this
is something I have to do. Right. Well, I was
(36:34):
dating a guy and we were at the point of
him he was staying over and he had went into
my bathroom to brush his teeth and he came out
and he was like, oh, that toothpaste is super weird.
And I was like, what are you talking about. I
have Colgate, Like why is it weird? He's like in
the green bottle and I was like, can you show
me what money you use? And he comes out, I'm like,
it literally says dog faced on this bottle.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You're like, you just brush your teeth with the dog's toothpaste.
I did, and you may or may not be illiterate
because it says dog toothpaste.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
O like, it says it Vet's best dog enzyme toothpaste. Wait,
that is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
They like put like chicken flavor in there.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah. Ah, that's why it tasted a little weird for
this poor guy. And I was like, I'm really sorry,
but that is not my tooth face and he's like, no, died,
what did you guys? Yeah, we didn't work out for
other reasons. But I'm I'm not sure if that did
or did not play a part in that. It's very
possible it did. That is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I have never heard of an owner brushing their teeth
a dog toothpaste.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, and I did it. That's the best part. It's
in my thing all the time. But yeah, that that
poor guy. I think about him often.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You're listening to this, sir, We are sending you our condolences,
our thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Very sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
You might want to use some extra mouthwlaw.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I might have to make sure I also change that
up next time. My data man to have separate toothpaste places.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't know. I kind of feel like that's like
a good test.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Are you aware of your surroundings? Are you can you
read the labels?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Apparently we don't pay attention. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
If you start brushing your teeth and he's like, chicken,
are you gonna stop?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Dang?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay, this is good to know. Remy and Hazel are
helping you sift through the red flags.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Oh they sure are. They're so great at that. And honestly,
if Remmy doesn't like someone, it is a red flag
because she loves everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
One hundred percent. They know and I trust them implicitly.
If you come into my home and my dogs don't
like you, I'm like, I guess you gotta go. Like
they have the best intuition you know.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Also too, like there was a moment in my dating
life where I was in an abusive relationship and Remy
was my main concern. She was a reason that I
couldn't get out, and so I really sympathize with people
when they're in situations like that. And I remember I
got on like a red eye. This is all at
the same time as Bobby's winning Dancing with the Stars
and we're about to go home for Thanksgiving break and
(38:50):
I get on a red eye with Remy. This is
when back when she used to be able to fly,
because she's my emotional sportannel For a really long time,
I had some really bad mental health problems and she
was a great flyer by the way, like never made
a peep, passed out on my lap. She was wonderful.
But she flew home with me and I had to
leave her with my parents for three weeks so I
could go back and get out of my situation. It's
the longest turn I've ever been apart from each other. Wow,
(39:12):
And it was It was huge because that me being
able to take her to my parents was the only
thing that allowed me to get out of that relationship,
because she mattered to me more than I was even
picturing myself in that moment. Right.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Gosh, it sounds like, I mean, you have told me
that your bond is strong, and clearly we've already articulated that,
but you guys have really been through it together.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
We really have. She's been through every moment. I often say,
I'm like, I really have to get married at some
point because she has to be at my wedding. That's
the only requirement I have.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
He's the maid of honor, she is.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
She will be there wherever I am.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So it's gonna make me cry, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
This has to happen, and I will be there too,
But I don't know that Hazel will want to be there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
So they're like, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I like, I'll stay home for this time.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
She's like, I'm sending you my thoughts on prayers I
have said it once and I will say it again.
The dog that you have in your twenties, through all
of your dating and your heartbreaks, and just like growing
up and learning about yourself, Like, there is no stronger
bond than that. You guys are a testament to that
for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
No, there really isn't. And I really cannot possibly fathom
the day that she's no longer here. It breaks my
heart even thinking that that's the possibility. So we like
to think that she is not even halfway there yet.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
No, she has got decades ahead of her.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yes, she might be the one dog that lives forever.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
We are going to bet on it, all right. We
are going to transition to our paw and Order and
we'll be right back. All right. We are back with
Paw and Order, where I tell you things that I
(40:45):
would not do with my own pets as a veterinarian.
Number one on the docket for today is I would
never give my dog a pill without putting something around
the pill. A lot of people will shove it down
their throats or just stick it in their mouth. And
my friend actually just took a pill, laid down and
(41:08):
the pill sort of burnt a hole in ter esophagus,
which humans too. We should always remember, like drink with
lots of water, take with food, because if those pills
or tablets get stuck in your esophagus, they can cause
serious issues.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
No, you're you're putting on my fears that I already have.
You should see me take my like all my stupplements
I take every day. I'm like throwing my head back
because I don't like to swallow it.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
The pawn order segment is very anxiety doucing. I'm not
gonna lie, I'm stressed, but no, it's really important. There's
great things like pill pockets that you can get on Amazon.
I also really like American craft cheese singles. I mean
you can get really any kind of cheese singles, but
I always.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Cut up little cheese cubes and I'll shove it in there.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, cheese, rab it and lunch meat, just something to
coat it. And if you have to give your dog
the pill, like just the plain pill, make sure you
like squirt some water into their mouth afterwards, because I've
seen it and really badly.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh that's a great tip. I would have never known
that that actually was. I just always did because it's
the only way I can get her to take it.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
But that's makes sense, It's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Number two, I this goes back to earlier, but I
would not take my pet to the vet and not
keep them on their leash or in their carrier. And
this obviously goes for the kitty that ran away and
the parking lot. A lot of cat owners especially will
walk into the clinic holding their cats. I see a
lot of pillowcases, like kitties tucked into pillowcases. Those are
(42:30):
always so crazy to me, which is very cute, and honestly,
if like you're not, it's better than just like holding
your cat, I suppose. But I am a big proponent
of putting them in a carrier or the backpack, having
them zipped up, because them getting loose is horrible. And
then even inside the clinic, like we have dogs and
cats and people and all these things, and I've seen
fights break out in the clinic between the pets. So
(42:52):
just keeping them on the leash, no matter how good
your dog is, it doesn't mean that like everybody else's
pet wants to be greeted.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yes, you know, with Hazel, she's really gotten very curious
of the outside. So even when I let my dog out.
I have to be like a guard to the door
and say you cannot come outside. There's a camera footage
of me running being outside and she peeks her head
out because I didn't think this was gonna be a thing.
And I come like scrambling pig wrestler and get her
(43:20):
back inside. Because you leave, I'm never gonna find you again.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's like wwe SmackDown, yes and coming for you.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I do have like she'll go on road trips and
she runs the car. She's so great at road trips,
which is funny. Most cats aren't, but she loves them.
And I put on a breakaway collar with an apple
tag just in case because at the very least I
can find a path where she might have gone.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I love that You're a great owner.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I try to be. I'm also kind of a helicopter owner. Well.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
The other thing you could get her that I think
are so cute if she really wants to go outside
as the cadio. Have you ever seen those? Are like
little outdoor.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Geocgor Josie, I'm about to this is I'm admitting this.
I'm about to get so. I have a deck in
my house and I'm looking into estimates to get it
all closed in so that she can start going with
this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
This is not a cadio, this is a penthouse.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yep. I'm like, you get more than that. We're gonna
step this up and not. She had eight years of
who knows what.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
So I love that she's gone from hoarding to living
the dream she is. Okay, please send pictures when that
takes place. I want to see all right, Last, but
not least, I would never get a pet off of
Facebook or cragslist, and this brings me back to I
did an episode with Tarin not too long ago and
she got one of her dogs off of Cragslist. I
am not knocking her, I'm just saying that that can
(44:34):
be very dangerous. A I don't want any of my
listeners to get taken, but also be a lot of
times those are backyard breeders that are breeding and then
probably not doing the most ethical breeding practices and then
selling puppies and dogs to make money. And we don't
want to support backyard breeders.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, I'm with you, doctor Josie. I'm a huge advocate
of rescuing, and if you want any particular breed, you
can find it in a shelter, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, you know what that's It's such a great point.
Even here in Nashville, I do a lot of work
with wags and walks, and we get standard Poodles, Golden Retrievers, Labradors, like,
all the peer breads are coming through the shelters. So
if you were a helmet on having a peer bread,
I'm not gonna judge you. I support you, but make
sure you check your shelters first. And if you absolutely
want to go to a breeder and make sure they're reputable.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
And for sure, I will tell you, like I've had
so many friends who've tried to get Remy alikes because
she is a great dog, and it never works out
because I often tell them the biggest characteristic of her
is that she's a rescued exact, and so much of
that comes from appreciation and understanding that she was saved.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
So one million percent, I say, like those little trust
fund babies that come from the breeders, they do not
know what it's like to live on the streets. They
do not, So the street dogs are where it's at
and they're usually the healthiest. So yeah, I mean I
could go on and on. All right, Well, that really
wraps up our episode for the day. Thank you so
much for coming on.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
You have your own podcast. Can you remind me what
it's called the AA. It's called Take this personally, Take
this personally.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, speaking of Wags and Woks, I had the founder
on recently Wags and Box Nashville. She's talking all about
like the animal and rescue crisis that's happening right now.
It's really sad.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
She's like the queen dog Lady of Nashville. She is.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
And it's like, I say sad because it's heartbreaking, but
it's also just hopeful too at the same time that
there's a lot of people that are doing some awesome work. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
It definitely restores your faith in humanity absolutely. Well, thank
you so much for coming on. I appreciate having you.
I love your pets. Even though like it kind of
broke out into a little bit of World War three
and here.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Welcome to my life. This is the zoo. I did
text you and say I'm bringing the zoo.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
You did, and I was like, bring them.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Well, we really went out with a bang, a dog
catfight bang.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Actually, hey, you're right we are going out with a bang.
And actually this is very fitting because this is our
final episode of season two, which has gone by so quickly.
I've had the best time. At the end of season one,
I was like, gosh, I can't believe it. Now we're
already at the end of season two and it's going
to be a pretty short break. We're already working on
season three, so don't worry. We will be back and
(47:03):
in the meantime, be sure that you are subscribing, reviewing, rating,
doing all those important things that make this podcast successful.
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