January 22, 2025 • 41 mins
On this episode of In The Vet’s Office, Dr. Josie sits down with glam guru and host of The Touch Up Podcast, Tarryn Feldman. The episode starts with an interesting case of the week involving PBR (the beer) and then listener Q & As. Dr. Josie and Tarryn talk all about Tarryn’s dogs- 16 year old Lucy, who probably has dementia and Orville, her most recent rescue. They talk about what it’s like introducing an old dog with a young one, and Tarryn tells the story of how her dogs banded together and ate a whole bottle of a pain meds. Tarryn also discussed her late dog, Twyla, and her experience of having a dog with cancer. Tarryn then gives an amazing vocal performance leading into Paw & Order. Dr. Josie wraps up the episode explaining why you should never leave chewing gum unattended around your pets and why you don’t want to smoke in front of of them, either.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horshak.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right, welcome back to in the Vets Office. I
am your host, doctor Josie, and I am so excited
for today because I have the best guest here. We
have Miss Tarran Feldman in the Vets Office.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Doctor Josie.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Taran is first and foremost my friend, but secondly, she
is the celebrity hair and makeup artist in Nashville. She's
doing glam for pretty much everyone. But we're talking like
Reese Witherspoon, Kelsey Vallerini, Trisha Yearwood, anyone that is in
the A list, you name it, she's glammed them. She
also has her own podcast called The Touch Up Podcast.
(00:53):
And if you're not listening to this, you should because
I'm pretty sure you could moonlight as a comedian. You're
so nice, You're so funny. And then, last, not least,
she is a dog mom. And she's a really good
dog mom. And I know that firsthand because I am
lucky enough to take care of her animals. Welcome, Karen, Hi, Hi,
thanks for having me. You're so welcome. Last time I
saw you, we were at a wedding and you were
(01:14):
glamoring me.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We were in the Keys.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We were in the Keys.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We've been in Florida in the Keys, partying on the beach.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And now we are in Nashville. It's twenty degrees yeah,
and fridge, concrete building and a concrete bolding shooting yeah.
Speaking of the concrete building. For those watching this podcast,
this is not cute. This is not our normal studio.
We are in the mix of moving, so just be resuilding.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We are building twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Watch out when we come back in twenty eighty five.
I'll best are off you bitches.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wish yeah, are not ready? Wish you could never?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, all right, before we dive into all things, yes,
we're going to do our case of the week. This
is where I talk about any kind of case. It
can be interesting, funny that I have seen in the trenches,
if you will. And this particular case it was not
so much medical. I had a man I cannot remember
his name, but he came to his four o'clock on
(02:06):
a Friday appointment with his big dog name Thunder. I'm like,
we're this is just gonna be a great visit.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, big dog's name Thunder, Big.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Dog names thunder. He walks in. You can tell he's
like kind of in a bad mood. He like hands
me the dog's leash. He sits down. I don't really
see because he's got a big coat on. But all
of a sudden, he pulls out a twelve pack of
PBR Okay, sets them down next to him, pulls a
coozy out of his pocket, takes a PBR out, pops
it open, sticks in his koozy, and just chugs the
(02:33):
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, maybe he's getting divorced.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right in front of me.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I was like, you know what, this profession's amazing because
you don't go to your doctor's office and do that.
You certainly don't go to your dentist and do that.
But your vet, Like, why the hell not?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Sure? Sure, all bets are off, have a nice little
cocktail at your vet's office.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I also have had another time where it was a euthanasia,
so a little bit more sad of an appointment. And
this wasn't mine, specifically, it was a friend's. It was
doctor Isabella, who's on this podcast for those of you
who listen, And she asked the mom, She said, was
you like a water or can I get you anything,
and she said, oh no, it's okay. I've had five
white claws on my way over and then jiggled her
(03:12):
Stanley like there's still some in here, okay, and she was.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Like, okay, thank you for sharing. That chucks out, thank
you for sharing. It's that's definitely a moment that you
need a drink.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, yeah, So I am just always reminded that this
profession we see the highest of highs peoples and lives
and the lowest of lows, and that it's a judge
of free zone. You need a PBR on a Friday
or a white claw before euthanasia and you do you boo.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We don't know. Thunder might be a lot to deal
with exactly. You might need them PBRs.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
With a name like Thunder, you were destined for greatness
and probably a couple of PBRs on perc. Yes, so yeah,
I just thought that was interesting. All Right, we are
going to dive into our listener Q and Ace, Hi,
doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
My name's Belinda and I have to tuolow mixes. But
they are both older, like nine years old or so,
and is it too late to create train them? And
if so, how do.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I do that. I really like this question because I
think it applies to humans too, whether you're a dog
or a human, no matter how old you are, you
can learn new tricks.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh, it's never too late.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It is never too late, okay, And in fact, I
think so often old people and probably old dogs feel
like I even think we're like, oh they're old, like
we don't need to worry about it, but like they
also want to learn new things. They want boundaries, and
so I think it's important that yes, you can absolutely
teach your old dog new tricks or create training or
to sit, to stay, whatever it may be. Cute cute,
(04:47):
and so create trading is fairly easy. It's a lot
of repetition. You want to have your create out wherever
you're most frequent in the house, usually like your living room.
Leave the door open so that way your dog feels
like it can go in and out as it pleases.
Put some treats in there, feed them their food in there,
their favorite toy, like, make it a place where they're
so excited to go. And then slowly, with time they'll
(05:10):
become more acclimated to it, and you can leave them
in there for short periods of time. And then all
the way to you know, at night if you want,
or when you're leaving the house. But start slow. Lots
of positive reinforcement. And just because they're old does not
mean they can't learn how to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I love that good to know. Although I think Lucy,
my sixteen year old, is she just is what she is.
Lucy like absolutely, oh, she'd be like kindly, fuck, that's
a no for me. It's like chain smoking at this point.
I like, she's so funny.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Lucy's amazing. I want to talk. I also feel like
she has like a little bit of dementia.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
She is. There's a lot of like.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Hello, I walked in this room and I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Who are you? What am I? Oh? Right, right, we
were about to have lunch.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Right if people always ask me like do you think
dogs can get dementia? And we don't have any scientific
studies on it, but they absolutely have all the signs
of it, Like there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
She'll like run away from me sometimes like who are you?
And I'm like, what do you mean who?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Like I birth to you.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
We've been together for sixteen years, Like I birthed you?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, exactly, And they pace a lot too, doesn't she
kind of wander around the house.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, her and Laylah both the mad pacing.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It can be a lot of owners find that to
be like exhausting because they are like I want to
help you, but I don't know how, yeah, and you're
so disoriented, Like it can be really taxing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It is, And I think, what is it with old dogs?
Why do they get the slippies and the slighties on
the wood floor the pads?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean I think they there's like a number
of reasons they can. It's kind of like your grandma,
who's a hundred? She your grandma, who's a hundred? That
was my ring doorbell? Sorry, everyone, the ups man is there. Hello,
Just like your hundred ye old grandma. You know, she's
got to use a walker to get around. Like they
can have some like neurologic deficits that make it hard
(07:13):
to walk. They're just old and crickety.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, it's just interesting because like both of them, my
older dogs, they would like do the splits, like I
had to start feeding them on rugs.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they're like around and a lot of my clients
when I go to do house calls and they have
older pets. Their house is just wood floors with runners everywhere,
runners everywhere. Yeah, or you can put booties on them,
which is very cute.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah. I tried the little nail caps but that didn't
do anything. No, so don't buy those.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
They are cute though.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
There.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, we love a fashion nail, we.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Love a bright blue nail, but it does absolutely nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't think the nail grippers do much. But the
the booties, which you can really get any brand, those
are pretty nicely.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's cute.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, let's jump into question number two.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, Hi, doctor Josie.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I'm calling regarding my dog. He is a wired hair terrier.
He's a rescue but I've had him since seven weeks.
He's three years old and recently, I mean it's been
a couple of months now, but he was sleeping in bed.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
With me, and then now he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He sleeps in the closet floor. There's been no trauma
or any changes, so I was just wondering what could
be causing this behavior.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, I like this question too because two things come
to mind for me, one of which is, again, our
animals are just like us, and their preferences can change
as they get older, like for example, what you eat Like,
I didn't like carrots seven years ago. No, I love karrot. Yeah,
so he made just his preferences might be changing. Also,
if the weather is changing and he's hot in the bed,
(08:55):
he might want to be cooler in the closet. But
there are with behavioral change. Is being a vet. One
of the things I think about is they can have
like metabolic disease or indocrine disease, these little like thyroid
changes going on that we can't see with our naked eye.
That can cause them to have behavioral changes. So if
you're like, hey, this is unusual, I always say better
(09:16):
safe than sorry. Yes, take them to your vet, get
a blood panel done, just get some peace of mind
that everything is nice and normal. And if all that
comes back worm all, then it could just be a
preference change. They are just like us.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Did she say how long it was going on for
a couple of months? Oh yeah, that's that's long enough
that I would go.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, this is weird exactly if it's like once or twice, yeah,
no big deal. But it's consistent. I think it's worth
getting checked out. Yeah, cats too, especially for all my
cat listeners.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Interesting dogs, I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Like, nah, they can change things up a little bit
more usually, like more than usual. But cats are like
my routine.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, creatures of habits.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, if they're acting off a couple of days in
a row, I'm like red flag.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, I don't have cats.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
As I say, have you ever had cats?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I have, I'm not much of a cat person. But
also there was a time where I was like, I
think Orville needs a cat friend because inner specie relationships.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Just yeah, it's the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, but that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Speaking of that, I just saw a TikTok video of
a horse walking around and it was wearing its little
winter blanket and a cat was riding around on its.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Back, and then just like kills me every time bury me. Now, yeah,
I like, I don't get it. What amazing, That's all
I want.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I never put a like interspecies relationships. I love that, Tarren.
I never thought about it like that. I mean, I
know that's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
A frog and a duck a like a cat and
a rhino. Give it like whatever it is, a donkey
and a chicken, a donkey and of chicken, whatever it is,
and then make it up like a baby, see it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Like, oh you denial interspecies relationships like.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Marry me peace. We are here to celebrate Tarn and Josie.
They have died from Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
My god, I know. Okay, we have to get you
a cat. Let's do it. It's cool, like, you know,
it's a good time of year to bunk it down
and have a lot of kitten.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know, But I might I might just get another dog.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well that's also a great option. Tell me about Orville.
I haven't really spent damage time because he's fairly new.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yes, he's he's he's like a year and a couple
of months old. He's the best boy in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
He's a funny looking boy. He's a like in the
best way.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, he's a cute He's so cute. He doesn't look
real like what is he? He's a docs and beagle
cha uh mix. He's like five things. I forgot what
all of them are.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
He's a box and box and there's nothing better than
a little super mutt to me where they kind of
almost look like forest.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah. Yeah, he's just a fuzzy little low boy. He's
so cute. He's such a good boy. He's a little
bit of a bad boy, but he's like, he's just
so sweet.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You've only all your three other three dogs I've met,
they're all girls. So how is it having a boy dog.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, I'm just like, dude, you're just waving your
fuzzy little penis on everything. Oh annoy it is. But
there's like a it's such a special bond different all
of my dogs. I think he loves me the most.
Like Lucy, I've always been like she could go home
with anybody. Yeah, Layla was my ride or die, but
(12:43):
she wouldn't like lay on me or like she would
like sleep above my head or like on my legs.
But she was never like very affectionate.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
With me, very catless.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And yeah. But and Twila, I mean Twila just always
though everybody. He was like mad at her. So she's
just like a little nervous girls a little standoffish. But
he just is my best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They are I tell you, I don't hire a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It is the best friend, like he was genuinely are
best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's how I feel. I had girl dogs before I
had Biggie. Who's my little guy. He's actually a Chihuaha
beagle something or another mix. I know, maybe we should
have them meets. Oh my god, yes, And I have
never had a love like that. Yeah, it's like they
I think little boy dogs just like love their moms. Yeah,
kind of like we probably sound absolutely insane, but I
(13:35):
don't care either. But it's like baby boys like you
boys with their moms. Like I think there's just something
to be said about it. Yeah, getting a really good dog,
a good girl dog. They are special and they're smart
and they're like zeroed in on you. But a boy
dog's just like do whatever and I love you.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. I mean I've definitely had like a very special
bond with all of my.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Children, of course, all of my children.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And Orville like is obsessed to with aj so as Lucy.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So Karen him boyfriend. Yeah, your boyfriend boyfriend. How was
it introducing him being young to Lucy and Layla at
the time, who were seniors very well into years.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
He was super stoked. They could care less, okay, Like,
but I will say this, after I lost Twila, I
didn't hear Layla or Lucy bark for like four months,
and that was the deciding factor of I'm going to
get another dog to like bring life back into this crew.
And they definitely because they would, even though they were
(14:42):
both pretty much almost deaf, they would hear him bark
or move and then they'd go, oh, something's happening, and
then they would like get up and be like, I'm
still a dog. So then I like started hearing chaos again.
And so it was nice. But he just wanted to play.
And there's I mean, Lucy's still like bro huh, like
back off? Yeah, yeah, you like fight all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think there's something to be said about that, where
when you have an older dog to show your younger
dog the ropes or kind of like put them in
their place. I think that's like a nice it's a
nice balance. Actually, yeah, you feel aboud. You're like, I'm
sorry that I've brought this younger dog into your life
older dog. But it's good for like the younger dog
to be to have some boundaries like that from another
dog in the house.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah. And I also thought it was good for them too,
to just keep them on their little toes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Keep some young as they scamper around. Okay, you talked
about Twyla and that's you have a tattoo of her.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Oh my god, I'm the cutest tattoo.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's really cute.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's the cutest.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'm gonna have to post it so people can see
because I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'll send you the real the photos. She was like
a pit boxer maybe Okay, well.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Mutt she That's how Tarann and I met Abby Smiers,
who is the husband of Dan Smiers from Dan and
Shay Yeah, texted me and said, Hey, I have a
friend who who's got some stuff going on with her dog.
Can I connect to you? I said, sure, no problem. So
I get on the phone with Terian, like there was
not just some stuff going on, like she was yeah,
very sick.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, she had a cancerous tumor and one of her
lung lobes and I had it immediately taken out, just
the whole lobe. Think.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, we were on the phone and you were like,
I don't I think this is before surgery. You were like,
I don't know. And I always tell owners this, there's
such a spectrum of care, right, like, Yeah, some people
choose to do nothing at all, which is not wrong,
and some people choose to like go the distance. And
so we kind of like were weighing the pros and
cons of each end you went the distance.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, And I remember you saying something to me too
that will always stick is you were like, there's two
kinds of parents, like pet parents. There's the ones that
will like go to the depths of the world, you
figure it out, or there's the like logic, not that
(17:04):
it's not logical to go to the depths of the planet,
but like or there's the Okay, it's time. And I
didn't know which par and I was because those were
the only I hadn't lost a dog before. Twilo was
my first one, so it was an easy decision because
she was only eleven and everything was perfect with her
(17:25):
except for that, So it was an easy decision for
me to go, Okay, let's just get this taken out.
But I didn't. And I will say, you're a great vet,
but I feel like it's really difficult advocating for your
sick dog because they were like, well, we can get
(17:45):
her in to get a scan in like a month
from now. I'm like, a fucking month from now. No,
you're getting her in now. There's only two rady, like
two people are cancer centers in town that can deal
with my dog in a month. Who knows what's gonna
happen in a month like there, the like time span
(18:06):
is so much less for dogs than it is animals
or people. So I was difficult, but I got her,
like she was in surgery within two weeks that thing
was out. Yeah, But then I didn't realize the kind
of cancer that she had or how dogs, how cancer
(18:29):
lives in dogs is like it's still in the blood
kind of. So I thought I would have her a
lot longer, but I just did it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We had came back three we have three months.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Let's see, her tumor was taken out the end of
July and she died the end of September. Okay, so
not really.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Like two months. It's interesting you say, like, I do
think there's a huge portion to having to advocate for
your own pet and honestly and human medicine too. You
have to advocate for yourself. Yeah, and it's because it
is at the end of the day, like you're working
with these massive hospital systems and people that don't know
your animals like you do. And so I think, I'm
(19:12):
sorry you had that experience, but I do understand like
having to advocate for your own animals, and I hope
that some of the time that you got with her
and like doing that surgery, Like she would not have
had those two months if you hadn't done it, so hopefully.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, I mean you got more time either way. I
got a little bit more time that I really didn't know.
I thought they were like, you could She'll probably last
till December, which was around my birthday, which was my
fortieth birthday. So I was gonna go to BALI, I
was gonna do all this stuff, and I just put
everything on hold, which is not a big deal. I
could care less. But and then I just lost her
like so much sooner. I was like, oh, yeah, you're
(19:47):
like damn, yeah, I know, but you just don't know.
And I would have done it the same way again. Yeah,
Like the end of her life was like so peaceful
and so like what a great like you you only
hope that you can like have your pet die in
your arms or I do at least, Yeah, like I don't.
(20:08):
Some people can't handle or they think they can't, but
they can. Yeah. But that's like my hope is that,
like all my dogs just die in my office.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, absolutely, with the person they love the most. Yeah,
are kind of ushering them out of this world. Yeah,
because ultimately they're the most comfortable in your arms.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Right, so far I've had that's happened with Leila and Twila. Yes,
so yes, I'm so grateful so Layla. Gosh, we're going
from one sad story to another. I know. So Twila
died September twenty fourth, and then Layla died September thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Really I didn't know that, Yeah one year almost, Oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh and then Lucy's probably uh quick dog hack. Don't
get multiple dogs the same age. Just don't do it.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Stagger, Why would you do that? Stagger?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
The ages I did that was so dumb. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, we're having a little bit of a domino effect
right now.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, Well, Layla was another one where you called me
and you're like, I think it might be time. And
I really this really resonated with me because we got
on the phone and again, I have two different kinds
of owners that are like I maybe not even two
different kinds, but I like what you said. You were
just like I need you to come look at this
dog and be objective and tell me is this the
(21:25):
right decision or is it not the right decision. I
think we as veterinarians kind of forget that that is
our job is to help guide you and like we
and I don't want the owners to ever have to
like feel like they're the judge and jury with their
dogs passing, you know, like that's on me, Like I
should help you make that decision, right, And so I
totally got that, and I hope that if there's any
(21:48):
veterinarians listening out there, like we remember that, like we
should be the ones throwing youth in asia on the
table and saying like it's okay, and like this is
the right decision to be making for this petah, because
it's really heard. Even myself as a vet when it's
my own dog, I had to have my husband be
like it's time. Yeah, you lose all when it's your
own pet, you lose all objectiveness.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, And it's weird. I mean, I definitely think Twila
prepped me for Leila, But you don't you like you
think you're like, my life's gonna be over when this
dog dies, Hell will freeze over, like I'll die. But
there's something that kicks in and I think it's just
your love for them, yes, that you just you love
(22:31):
them so much that you're just like, I'm not putting
you through another ounce. You can't spare a second to
see themselves of like pain. And I think that's like
just ultimately what it was so like easy and easy,
even though it's not an easy decision, but it made
it easier. Just you just know she's in pain. Yeah,
(22:54):
that's it, It's done.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And and and if you have an old dog, how
wonderful is that? The luckiest Laila was sixteen.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Unbelievable. Twila was eleven or twelve. I'll never know, but
I think she was like eleven or twelve. She may
have been thirteen. And Lucy's sixteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Amazing, she's strucking yeah doing it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And I feel like she's got like another six months
left inner.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I love that really longer. It is funny at the end,
I feel like we cling on to like, oh, but
I don't want to live without them. I don't want
like I can't bear this pain of losing them. But ultimately,
like just like you said, like, but I love them
more than I love myself. Yeah, so, and I could
can't keep them alive just to make me less sad
for a few more days.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well, and with Laila, Twila didn't she wasn't that old
that her. She was still Twila. Laila wasn't Layla anymore,
and Layla hadn't been Laila in a really long time.
When after she died, I was going through like old video,
those old photos, and I'm just like, oh, I didn't realize.
I've just gotten so used to taking care like of
(24:07):
these geriatric dogs.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
They're runing a nursing home.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They're just not even themselves anymore. They're so different, you know,
which just gave me a little bit more piece of.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Did you ever feel like they are something called caregiver
like compassion overload? Did you ever feel that where you're
like this is like tough on me, or you're just like, no,
I love them so much that I don't even think
about it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
No, the last like year and a half two years
have been really hard.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I bet, I bet.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's extremely hard taking care of old dogs and then
having them die back to back. Yeah, and just all
I do is take worry about them, take care of them,
fork out money.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I think there's a crazy fun of listeners that are
going to resonate with that, because.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, but what like what the fuck ouse. That's what
my job is though, and I take it's serious, but
it gets I mean, I'm all I do is clean
up piss and shit or puke or like somebody's sick.
Oh my god, we all had uh the norovirus together.
(25:14):
Oh boy, I had it, and then they had it.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What a time to be alive?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah. And then and then a couple of years ago,
like four years ago, they all decided to uh do
a group suicide mission and ate a bottle of carprofen,
the strongest fucking car Profen. They all shared it and
they stayed in the er for like six days.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's a group suicide. I'm gackling. I was like, there's.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Just try to cult group suicide themselves. You're like, I
was coming home from the Bahamas and I got a
phone call and I was like, they gotta go to
they gotta go to an emergency. Yeah, we don't. I
can guess who probably ate the most. I know who
got the bottle open, but they probably all they were
the car Profen. That's another hack. Never have the treat
(26:08):
carprofen ever, great hack. They will eat all of it
and then die and just shove a pill down their throat.
Never get medicine in a treat form. Yeah, this shouldn't
even be offered.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Or if you do, keep it up in the lock.
Oh yeah, because I have seen that so many times.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Oh my god, it was terrible. I was so stressed out.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I cannot imagine. So all of them went to the yar.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
All of them had it in their system. We just
didn't know, like you know, because they're all different sizes,
and I was just like, well flush them all, I
don't know, like pump everyone's stomach. Like it's like, what's
the bill? And then I got a dog insurance so
that yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
After that's another thing. I need to do a whole
episode on insurance for our pets, which I will get
to that, but it's if you can get it, especially
before have any issues wrong with them. I highly recomon.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I had it for Twila and everything was probably forty
grand I maybe paid nine.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, so there's that there you go, well that yeah,
say less, yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And then after she died, they were so awful to
deal with. I had to keep calling back and reminding
them to take her off the thing, and they wouldn't.
And I was like, if I have to tell you
this story one more time, I'm gonna lose my mind. Yeah. So,
and they tried to like up my premium like one
hundred more dollars even though I only had two pets
now instead of three. Yeah, so I just canceled it.
(27:34):
They were great for a minute in met Life.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
At least they covered we won't be getting sponsored by them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sorry, Oh it's okay. I mean, hey, it is your experience.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, but I would say, like especially when they're young,
because they will do things like eat carprofen and all
the random things that dogs do.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So, yeah, it's time, what it's time?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Hilarious?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Was that Twyla, Lucy and Layla.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah they all fucking did it?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Okay, God, yeah they all did it? Great?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Great? Great? Yep?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Did they all the three of them get along having
the big pity mix with two littles?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, I mean Twyla had like small dog syndrome. She
literally thought she didn't like she just I think it's
like a boxer thing. They're just like always think somebody's
mad at them. Yeah, so she would just try and
make herself so small. Yeah. But I've I had Lucy
and Layla since they were babies like I found Leila
(28:32):
Griffith Park. I got Lucy off Craigslist, like I've had
them since I was twenty four.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What was it like picking up a dog off Craigslist?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I saw her photo and I was like, that's my dog.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And then did you feel like you're gonna get taken
at any point? Or was it a seamless without transis?
It was twenty years ago, okay, so it was safe.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Then it was safe. I drove Orange County and got her.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, Just for all listeners out there, I do not recommend.
Oh no, don't do that doing it anymore?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, no, no, don't do that. Go to years wags and walks.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah yeah, do a rescue at wax Yeah, do
a rescue, do your local shelter, do anything else but that?
Which is where Orvill's from right.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Orbs from wagon walks. I saw him and I was like,
give me that dude.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What's his name? Orville? When you adopted him?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, it Wasbata. You're lying, And I said no, I
actually tried to take two, did you? Yeah? I sure did.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
On sour dough.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, they're like they're the litter. They told me that
I couldn't because puppies bond and then they won't yond
with anybody else.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
This is a big thing littermates. We don't remammend adopting
litter mates. They're either going to be like, like you said,
super bonded and it doesn't end very well for anyone
in the home, or they fight like thoge into like
vicious fights. Yeah, so I'm glad you only had Chibata.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah what a name, what a time? Or what a sandwich?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And now he's our little popcorn boy.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I know, he's just Orville and he's such an
Orville he is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
One hundred Yeah. Okay, of all the celebrities that you've glammed,
who would you say? I mean, I feel like they're
all pretty big animal lovers. Are there anywhere you're like, ooh,
this is a big animal lover.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I mean Trisha or Wood's a huge animal lover. She
has three dogs, dog rescue. She's just super into.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Okay, yeah, great that I didn't know this because I'm
not from Nashville, and I'm like, wasn't really in the
country music scene. But that is Garth Brooks's wife. Correct, Okay,
got it, Big dog.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Lady Chenowith has a dog named Thunder. She's like always
has a dog.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, another dog named Thunder.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Another Thunder.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I wonder if Kristen drinks pbr at her visits.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
She's not, She's not a maybe some moove. Yeah, I
was gonna say a little champagne. Yeah. Chelsea Handler has
always had dogs. She lost two dogs, and now she
has a guy named Doug. I haven't met him though yet.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
She's a dog named Yeah, he's a fluffy chow amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, he seems like a cool guy.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Does she live in La?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
She lives in La Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I feel like takes care of Chelsey her dot Kelsey
Ballerini a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah. Who else? I mean, my friend Kelly Bannon has
two pugs, Like they're just everybody's got. They're a little guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like pretty much all the people we surround
ourselves with like animals for the most part.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, if you don't like animals, I just I know
a couple of people something they don't like animals, and
I'm like, that's probably why you're kind of shitty. Sorry,
I mean, oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's so funny. I mean, hey, she said it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I will say it. I'll put it. I'll make merch
merch dropping soon.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You don't like animals, you're shitty.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, you're kind of shitty. There's something shitty about you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Sure, have you ever or would you ever date it
guy that didn't like your dogs? No, but you never have.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Uh. Yeah, my ex wasn't really as like involved as
I would have loved.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But that's why he's an ex.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
That's why he's an ex.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah. I was always on my like bucket list of like,
marry a guy that will let you have all the
animals and then lo and behold here I am, here's Aj,
Here's Aj and Aj. The older the dog, the better,
more disabled, the better. Like he just take it. Yeah,
he just is Like I was like, oh, I kind
(32:38):
of want to get another dog, like because you know,
Lucy could care less about Orville and she just wants
to like sleep in bed next to me and just
take naps. And Orville's just like chomping at the bits.
Just I feel like he needs a little guy, like
a little friend. And he's like, well, let's go to
the shelter. Let's go. Yeah, And I'm like, oh, you dude,
you you're my guy.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
You should propose. You should propose, No, you should propose me.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He tells me all the time he's gonna marry me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's a timing thing.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is a side note, but Taran was doing my
glam for my podcast cover and you had I kind
of forgot about that started talking to AJ and You're like,
I don't know if he likes me, and then you
showed me his messages and I'm like, Taren, I'm pretty
sure he likes you. And now you're together.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, and now we're together. Well, you know, guys are dumb.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
He's a comedian, isn't he.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you guys joke make funny jokes at home, but
like on your walls?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, uh, he's he's a funny guy. He's much more
like quiet and reserved I mean you've met.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Him, yeah, than when he's on stage.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah. But when he's on stage is like where he
thrives and shines, where like I am like miss his personality.
I'm just so loud and outgoing in real life, but
if you caught me on stage, I would just like
freeze up, freeze up.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
You're a good yin to each other's yang. Yeah, totally
do you guys do anything funny with the animals, like
singed them, took them in a certain way, like anything,
like any weird routines.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I mean, we like laugh at Orville a lot because
he's so funny, and we'll be like, oh my god, babe,
look how cute. Oh my god, look how cute? And
there's like so many photos.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Do you narrate them? Do they have voices?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
A little bit? Orville a little bit because he's just
such a crackhead. Yeah, And Lucy's just like I can't,
I just, oh my god, let me know when this
guy goes to jail, like she's.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
She's like one hundred year old New Yorker that's chain smokes.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, she just wants to play gin rummy.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, maybe a little majong like Love's Party.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, he's like sniffing lines of coke. He's just such
a fucking crackheat.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I love him so much, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I know he's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
All Right, Well, we're gonna thank you. That was amazing.
I love all your animals and you. We're gonna take
a quick break and then we're gonna come back and
we're gonna I've into pawn Order. All right, we're back
(35:14):
for our paw and Order, and usually we play the
intro music, but today we have the vocal recordings of
tarn Feldman.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Hit it dum dum boom boom d.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We nailed it, nailed it. You think this is a
veterinary podcast, isn't. We are multi talented. Alright, So number
one on the list this week, I would not feed
my dog or cat a raw diet.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
People.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I cannot tell you how many listeners I have had
contact me about this. They want to feed them raw meat.
And I cannot say this loud enough. You should not
do that because a your pets. I have seen so
many pets get sick from this. There's a lot of
bacteria and raw meat. And I've also had owners get
sick from feeding raw food.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Ew, cook it. Why can't you just cook it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Cook it, totally, give.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Them everything, gizzards, duck liver, cook it though.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Dude, Yeah, you got to cook it. You've got to
cook it. Raw meat is really disgusting. Yeah, it's for yeah,
for wolves. Yeah, and I'm sure they're like my little
chill wahwahs. Ancestors at some point may have eaten a
piece of raw meat. But if I was to give
him something raw, it would not be cute.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh I'm sure my dogs would get they're too domestic.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
No, yeah, they wouldn't like it.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Carprofen only we're on a strict drug deck. I mean,
they're a little drug addictes. I don't even know what
to say. It's embarrassing, hilarious.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Okay, number two, I wouldn't leave my chewing gum unattended.
A lot of dogs love to get into chewing gum.
In the words of Aran, they might be doing a
suicide mission.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Always gum. Really, I mean I would think so.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But uh oh, gum has xylotol in it, which is
an artificial sweetener, and it makes their blood pressure drop
like very dangerously. They have hospitalize. It's a whole thing. Yes, guys,
I know, watch your gum, hide your gun.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Watch your SIGs, watch your drugs, watch your gum, watch
your pertription drugs, all the thing. Get it together. What
are you doing the gun?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Are you doing the gum, the chewing gum? I don't
know why. This is no science. This is just my experience.
Golden retrievers love chewing gum. It's almost always a Golden
Retriever for me. That's so funny, isn't that funny?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Those little shits? Yeah, what do you what do you
trying to do right now?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
They want fresh breath, They want fresh breath.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Just give them a little puppy Mine have puppy man,
Yeah exactly. But grow up, be an adult and get
a drug drawer like everybody else. God, lock it up,
yez ass all right.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Number three, we're really sticking on the drug here.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Because I never give my dogs cocaine.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
That's number four for today. No Number three. I would
not smoke in front of my pets. I am any
anything really, cigarettes mainly cigarettes, fape. I think it's fine,
it's mainly Yeah, I have seen it. I am an
animal doctor. I do not care if you smoke SIGs
(38:26):
like you do you boo, But animals. I have had
dogs and cats develop asthma.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh my god, second hands pool, what are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I know this is like really turning into us lecturing listeners.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well, at some point, just grow up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
So, if you're gonna smoke, smoke outside and don't smoke.
I have seen there's also videos going around if people
are smoking weed and then blowing it in their pets faces,
trying to get them high. Yeah, that's not I do
not like that. Yeah, I don't think my listeners are
doing that. But you know, if you've seen people.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I can't. Oh my god. People are so like, why
would you do that? Yeah, dogs don't understand there. They
would probably be so scared to be that high.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Funny, No, it's not. I wish we could take animals
away from people like that.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's not funny, it's not cute.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
No. I get riled up. I know we're I know
I get riled up. I want to beat people. I
want to evaporate them.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah all right, Well, if you're not scared now after
saying this, you should be, because Tarran will find you.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Oh, I'll find you.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yes, they're innocent little creatures. I mean they if they
don't get to make the decision, it's our job to
protect them and advocate for them. So at the end
of the day, that's what we have to do. People
are dumb, Taran. This has been the best that though
in my life I have laughed, I have sweated, I
might have beeted a little bit, I had so much fun.
Thank you for coming away.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Having me, doctor Josie, You're so welcome.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
And then if you guys don't follow Terran you should
is it at Tarrean Feldman.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
At Taran Feldman. And then please go to my silly
little podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You are guaranteed to laugh.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh yeah, it's fun. It's a beauty podcast, but we
talk about all kinds of stuff and it's a giggly
good time.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I can only imagine it.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And then, as always, you can find me at doctor
Josie Vett on Instagram. Send me your questions. Click the
link in my bio to record any questions that you
want to come on the podcast. And then last and
not least, rate review, subscribe, give us five stars. Do
you say that on your podcast? Rate review, subscribe? Oh no,
I don't. I never remember, and they're always like say
these wee things.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You know what. Now I'm going to have to go
subscribe to our.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
YouTube, go subscribe and rate and review and if it's
not five stars, don't give us any at all.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, all right, we'll see you next week. Guys.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Bye, tell your dog, I said Hid
You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horshak.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right, welcome back to in the Vets Office. I
am your host, doctor Josie, and I am so excited
for today because I have the best guest here. We
have Miss Tarran Feldman in the Vets Office.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Doctor Josie.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Taran is first and foremost my friend, but secondly, she
is the celebrity hair and makeup artist in Nashville. She's
doing glam for pretty much everyone. But we're talking like
Reese Witherspoon, Kelsey Vallerini, Trisha Yearwood, anyone that is in
the A list, you name it, she's glammed them. She
also has her own podcast called The Touch Up Podcast.
(00:53):
And if you're not listening to this, you should because
I'm pretty sure you could moonlight as a comedian. You're
so nice, You're so funny. And then, last, not least,
she is a dog mom. And she's a really good
dog mom. And I know that firsthand because I am
lucky enough to take care of her animals. Welcome, Karen, Hi, Hi,
thanks for having me. You're so welcome. Last time I
saw you, we were at a wedding and you were
(01:14):
glamoring me.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We were in the Keys.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We were in the Keys.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We've been in Florida in the Keys, partying on the beach.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And now we are in Nashville. It's twenty degrees yeah,
and fridge, concrete building and a concrete bolding shooting yeah.
Speaking of the concrete building. For those watching this podcast,
this is not cute. This is not our normal studio.
We are in the mix of moving, so just be resuilding.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We are building twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Watch out when we come back in twenty eighty five.
I'll best are off you bitches.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wish yeah, are not ready? Wish you could never?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, all right, before we dive into all things, yes,
we're going to do our case of the week. This
is where I talk about any kind of case. It
can be interesting, funny that I have seen in the trenches,
if you will. And this particular case it was not
so much medical. I had a man I cannot remember
his name, but he came to his four o'clock on
(02:06):
a Friday appointment with his big dog name Thunder. I'm like,
we're this is just gonna be a great visit.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, big dog's name Thunder, Big.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Dog names thunder. He walks in. You can tell he's
like kind of in a bad mood. He like hands
me the dog's leash. He sits down. I don't really
see because he's got a big coat on. But all
of a sudden, he pulls out a twelve pack of
PBR Okay, sets them down next to him, pulls a
coozy out of his pocket, takes a PBR out, pops
it open, sticks in his koozy, and just chugs the
(02:33):
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, maybe he's getting divorced.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Right in front of me.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I was like, you know what, this profession's amazing because
you don't go to your doctor's office and do that.
You certainly don't go to your dentist and do that.
But your vet, Like, why the hell not?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Sure? Sure, all bets are off, have a nice little
cocktail at your vet's office.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I also have had another time where it was a euthanasia,
so a little bit more sad of an appointment. And
this wasn't mine, specifically, it was a friend's. It was
doctor Isabella, who's on this podcast for those of you
who listen, And she asked the mom, She said, was
you like a water or can I get you anything,
and she said, oh no, it's okay. I've had five
white claws on my way over and then jiggled her
(03:12):
Stanley like there's still some in here, okay, and she was.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Like, okay, thank you for sharing. That chucks out, thank
you for sharing. It's that's definitely a moment that you
need a drink.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, yeah, So I am just always reminded that this
profession we see the highest of highs peoples and lives
and the lowest of lows, and that it's a judge
of free zone. You need a PBR on a Friday
or a white claw before euthanasia and you do you boo.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We don't know. Thunder might be a lot to deal
with exactly. You might need them PBRs.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
With a name like Thunder, you were destined for greatness
and probably a couple of PBRs on perc. Yes, so yeah,
I just thought that was interesting. All Right, we are
going to dive into our listener Q and Ace, Hi,
doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
My name's Belinda and I have to tuolow mixes. But
they are both older, like nine years old or so,
and is it too late to create train them? And
if so, how do.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I do that. I really like this question because I
think it applies to humans too, whether you're a dog
or a human, no matter how old you are, you
can learn new tricks.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh, it's never too late.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It is never too late, okay, And in fact, I
think so often old people and probably old dogs feel
like I even think we're like, oh they're old, like
we don't need to worry about it, but like they
also want to learn new things. They want boundaries, and
so I think it's important that yes, you can absolutely
teach your old dog new tricks or create training or
to sit, to stay, whatever it may be. Cute cute,
(04:47):
and so create trading is fairly easy. It's a lot
of repetition. You want to have your create out wherever
you're most frequent in the house, usually like your living room.
Leave the door open so that way your dog feels
like it can go in and out as it pleases.
Put some treats in there, feed them their food in there,
their favorite toy, like, make it a place where they're
so excited to go. And then slowly, with time they'll
(05:10):
become more acclimated to it, and you can leave them
in there for short periods of time. And then all
the way to you know, at night if you want,
or when you're leaving the house. But start slow. Lots
of positive reinforcement. And just because they're old does not
mean they can't learn how to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I love that good to know. Although I think Lucy,
my sixteen year old, is she just is what she is.
Lucy like absolutely, oh, she'd be like kindly, fuck, that's
a no for me. It's like chain smoking at this point.
I like, she's so funny.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Lucy's amazing. I want to talk. I also feel like
she has like a little bit of dementia.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
She is. There's a lot of like.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Hello, I walked in this room and I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Who are you? What am I? Oh? Right, right, we
were about to have lunch.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Right if people always ask me like do you think
dogs can get dementia? And we don't have any scientific
studies on it, but they absolutely have all the signs
of it, Like there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
She'll like run away from me sometimes like who are you?
And I'm like, what do you mean who?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Like I birth to you.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
We've been together for sixteen years, Like I birthed you?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, exactly, And they pace a lot too, doesn't she
kind of wander around the house.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, her and Laylah both the mad pacing.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It can be a lot of owners find that to
be like exhausting because they are like I want to
help you, but I don't know how, yeah, and you're
so disoriented, Like it can be really taxing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It is, And I think, what is it with old dogs?
Why do they get the slippies and the slighties on
the wood floor the pads?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean I think they there's like a number
of reasons they can. It's kind of like your grandma,
who's a hundred? She your grandma, who's a hundred? That
was my ring doorbell? Sorry, everyone, the ups man is there. Hello,
Just like your hundred ye old grandma. You know, she's
got to use a walker to get around. Like they
can have some like neurologic deficits that make it hard
(07:13):
to walk. They're just old and crickety.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, it's just interesting because like both of them, my
older dogs, they would like do the splits, like I
had to start feeding them on rugs.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they're like around and a lot of my clients
when I go to do house calls and they have
older pets. Their house is just wood floors with runners everywhere,
runners everywhere. Yeah, or you can put booties on them,
which is very cute.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah. I tried the little nail caps but that didn't
do anything. No, so don't buy those.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
They are cute though.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
There.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, we love a fashion nail, we.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Love a bright blue nail, but it does absolutely nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't think the nail grippers do much. But the
the booties, which you can really get any brand, those
are pretty nicely.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's cute.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, let's jump into question number two.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, Hi, doctor Josie.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I'm calling regarding my dog. He is a wired hair terrier.
He's a rescue but I've had him since seven weeks.
He's three years old and recently, I mean it's been
a couple of months now, but he was sleeping in bed.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
With me, and then now he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
He sleeps in the closet floor. There's been no trauma
or any changes, so I was just wondering what could
be causing this behavior.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, I like this question too because two things come
to mind for me, one of which is, again, our
animals are just like us, and their preferences can change
as they get older, like for example, what you eat Like,
I didn't like carrots seven years ago. No, I love karrot. Yeah,
so he made just his preferences might be changing. Also,
if the weather is changing and he's hot in the bed,
(08:55):
he might want to be cooler in the closet. But
there are with behavioral change. Is being a vet. One
of the things I think about is they can have
like metabolic disease or indocrine disease, these little like thyroid
changes going on that we can't see with our naked eye.
That can cause them to have behavioral changes. So if
you're like, hey, this is unusual, I always say better
(09:16):
safe than sorry. Yes, take them to your vet, get
a blood panel done, just get some peace of mind
that everything is nice and normal. And if all that
comes back worm all, then it could just be a
preference change. They are just like us.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Did she say how long it was going on for
a couple of months? Oh yeah, that's that's long enough
that I would go.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, this is weird exactly if it's like once or twice, yeah,
no big deal. But it's consistent. I think it's worth
getting checked out. Yeah, cats too, especially for all my
cat listeners.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Interesting dogs, I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Like, nah, they can change things up a little bit
more usually, like more than usual. But cats are like
my routine.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, creatures of habits.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, if they're acting off a couple of days in
a row, I'm like red flag.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, I don't have cats.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
As I say, have you ever had cats?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I have, I'm not much of a cat person. But
also there was a time where I was like, I
think Orville needs a cat friend because inner specie relationships.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Just yeah, it's the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, but that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Speaking of that, I just saw a TikTok video of
a horse walking around and it was wearing its little
winter blanket and a cat was riding around on its.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Back, and then just like kills me every time bury me. Now, yeah,
I like, I don't get it. What amazing, That's all
I want.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I never put a like interspecies relationships. I love that, Tarren.
I never thought about it like that. I mean, I
know that's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
A frog and a duck a like a cat and
a rhino. Give it like whatever it is, a donkey
and a chicken, a donkey and of chicken, whatever it is,
and then make it up like a baby, see it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Like, oh you denial interspecies relationships like.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Marry me peace. We are here to celebrate Tarn and Josie.
They have died from Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
My god, I know. Okay, we have to get you
a cat. Let's do it. It's cool, like, you know,
it's a good time of year to bunk it down
and have a lot of kitten.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know, But I might I might just get another dog.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well that's also a great option. Tell me about Orville.
I haven't really spent damage time because he's fairly new.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yes, he's he's he's like a year and a couple
of months old. He's the best boy in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
He's a funny looking boy. He's a like in the
best way.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, he's a cute He's so cute. He doesn't look
real like what is he? He's a docs and beagle
cha uh mix. He's like five things. I forgot what
all of them are.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
He's a box and box and there's nothing better than
a little super mutt to me where they kind of
almost look like forest.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah. Yeah, he's just a fuzzy little low boy. He's
so cute. He's such a good boy. He's a little
bit of a bad boy, but he's like, he's just
so sweet.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You've only all your three other three dogs I've met,
they're all girls. So how is it having a boy dog.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, I'm just like, dude, you're just waving your
fuzzy little penis on everything. Oh annoy it is. But
there's like a it's such a special bond different all
of my dogs. I think he loves me the most.
Like Lucy, I've always been like she could go home
with anybody. Yeah, Layla was my ride or die, but
(12:43):
she wouldn't like lay on me or like she would
like sleep above my head or like on my legs.
But she was never like very affectionate.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
With me, very catless.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And yeah. But and Twila, I mean Twila just always
though everybody. He was like mad at her. So she's
just like a little nervous girls a little standoffish. But
he just is my best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They are I tell you, I don't hire a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It is the best friend, like he was genuinely are
best friend.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's how I feel. I had girl dogs before I
had Biggie. Who's my little guy. He's actually a Chihuaha
beagle something or another mix. I know, maybe we should
have them meets. Oh my god, yes, And I have
never had a love like that. Yeah, it's like they
I think little boy dogs just like love their moms. Yeah,
kind of like we probably sound absolutely insane, but I
(13:35):
don't care either. But it's like baby boys like you
boys with their moms. Like I think there's just something
to be said about it. Yeah, getting a really good dog,
a good girl dog. They are special and they're smart
and they're like zeroed in on you. But a boy
dog's just like do whatever and I love you.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. I mean I've definitely had like a very special
bond with all of my.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Children, of course, all of my children.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And Orville like is obsessed to with aj so as Lucy.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So Karen him boyfriend. Yeah, your boyfriend boyfriend. How was
it introducing him being young to Lucy and Layla at
the time, who were seniors very well into years.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
He was super stoked. They could care less, okay, Like,
but I will say this, after I lost Twila, I
didn't hear Layla or Lucy bark for like four months,
and that was the deciding factor of I'm going to
get another dog to like bring life back into this crew.
And they definitely because they would, even though they were
(14:42):
both pretty much almost deaf, they would hear him bark
or move and then they'd go, oh, something's happening, and
then they would like get up and be like, I'm
still a dog. So then I like started hearing chaos again.
And so it was nice. But he just wanted to play.
And there's I mean, Lucy's still like bro huh, like
back off? Yeah, yeah, you like fight all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I think there's something to be said about that, where
when you have an older dog to show your younger
dog the ropes or kind of like put them in
their place. I think that's like a nice it's a
nice balance. Actually, yeah, you feel aboud. You're like, I'm
sorry that I've brought this younger dog into your life
older dog. But it's good for like the younger dog
to be to have some boundaries like that from another
dog in the house.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah. And I also thought it was good for them too,
to just keep them on their little toes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Keep some young as they scamper around. Okay, you talked
about Twyla and that's you have a tattoo of her.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Oh my god, I'm the cutest tattoo.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's really cute.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's the cutest.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'm gonna have to post it so people can see
because I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'll send you the real the photos. She was like
a pit boxer maybe Okay, well.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Mutt she That's how Tarann and I met Abby Smiers,
who is the husband of Dan Smiers from Dan and
Shay Yeah, texted me and said, Hey, I have a
friend who who's got some stuff going on with her dog.
Can I connect to you? I said, sure, no problem. So
I get on the phone with Terian, like there was
not just some stuff going on, like she was yeah,
very sick.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, she had a cancerous tumor and one of her
lung lobes and I had it immediately taken out, just
the whole lobe. Think.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, we were on the phone and you were like,
I don't I think this is before surgery. You were like,
I don't know. And I always tell owners this, there's
such a spectrum of care, right, like, Yeah, some people
choose to do nothing at all, which is not wrong,
and some people choose to like go the distance. And
so we kind of like were weighing the pros and
cons of each end you went the distance.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, And I remember you saying something to me too
that will always stick is you were like, there's two
kinds of parents, like pet parents. There's the ones that
will like go to the depths of the world, you
figure it out, or there's the like logic, not that
(17:04):
it's not logical to go to the depths of the planet,
but like or there's the Okay, it's time. And I
didn't know which par and I was because those were
the only I hadn't lost a dog before. Twilo was
my first one, so it was an easy decision because
she was only eleven and everything was perfect with her
(17:25):
except for that, So it was an easy decision for
me to go, Okay, let's just get this taken out.
But I didn't. And I will say, you're a great vet,
but I feel like it's really difficult advocating for your
sick dog because they were like, well, we can get
(17:45):
her in to get a scan in like a month
from now. I'm like, a fucking month from now. No,
you're getting her in now. There's only two rady, like
two people are cancer centers in town that can deal
with my dog in a month. Who knows what's gonna
happen in a month like there, the like time span
(18:06):
is so much less for dogs than it is animals
or people. So I was difficult, but I got her,
like she was in surgery within two weeks that thing
was out. Yeah, But then I didn't realize the kind
of cancer that she had or how dogs, how cancer
(18:29):
lives in dogs is like it's still in the blood
kind of. So I thought I would have her a
lot longer, but I just did it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We had came back three we have three months.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Let's see, her tumor was taken out the end of
July and she died the end of September. Okay, so
not really.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Like two months. It's interesting you say, like, I do
think there's a huge portion to having to advocate for
your own pet and honestly and human medicine too. You
have to advocate for yourself. Yeah, and it's because it
is at the end of the day, like you're working
with these massive hospital systems and people that don't know
your animals like you do. And so I think, I'm
(19:12):
sorry you had that experience, but I do understand like
having to advocate for your own animals, and I hope
that some of the time that you got with her
and like doing that surgery, Like she would not have
had those two months if you hadn't done it, so hopefully.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, I mean you got more time either way. I
got a little bit more time that I really didn't know.
I thought they were like, you could She'll probably last
till December, which was around my birthday, which was my
fortieth birthday. So I was gonna go to BALI, I
was gonna do all this stuff, and I just put
everything on hold, which is not a big deal. I
could care less. But and then I just lost her
like so much sooner. I was like, oh, yeah, you're
(19:47):
like damn, yeah, I know, but you just don't know.
And I would have done it the same way again. Yeah,
Like the end of her life was like so peaceful
and so like what a great like you you only
hope that you can like have your pet die in
your arms or I do at least, Yeah, like I don't.
(20:08):
Some people can't handle or they think they can't, but
they can. Yeah. But that's like my hope is that,
like all my dogs just die in my office.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, absolutely, with the person they love the most. Yeah,
are kind of ushering them out of this world. Yeah,
because ultimately they're the most comfortable in your arms.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Right, so far I've had that's happened with Leila and Twila. Yes,
so yes, I'm so grateful so Layla. Gosh, we're going
from one sad story to another. I know. So Twila
died September twenty fourth, and then Layla died September thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Really I didn't know that, Yeah one year almost, Oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh and then Lucy's probably uh quick dog hack. Don't
get multiple dogs the same age. Just don't do it.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Stagger, Why would you do that? Stagger?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
The ages I did that was so dumb. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, we're having a little bit of a domino effect
right now.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, Well, Layla was another one where you called me
and you're like, I think it might be time. And
I really this really resonated with me because we got
on the phone and again, I have two different kinds
of owners that are like I maybe not even two
different kinds, but I like what you said. You were
just like I need you to come look at this
dog and be objective and tell me is this the
(21:25):
right decision or is it not the right decision. I
think we as veterinarians kind of forget that that is
our job is to help guide you and like we
and I don't want the owners to ever have to
like feel like they're the judge and jury with their
dogs passing, you know, like that's on me, Like I
should help you make that decision, right, And so I
totally got that, and I hope that if there's any
(21:48):
veterinarians listening out there, like we remember that, like we
should be the ones throwing youth in asia on the
table and saying like it's okay, and like this is
the right decision to be making for this petah, because
it's really heard. Even myself as a vet when it's
my own dog, I had to have my husband be
like it's time. Yeah, you lose all when it's your
own pet, you lose all objectiveness.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, And it's weird. I mean, I definitely think Twila
prepped me for Leila, But you don't you like you
think you're like, my life's gonna be over when this
dog dies, Hell will freeze over, like I'll die. But
there's something that kicks in and I think it's just
your love for them, yes, that you just you love
(22:31):
them so much that you're just like, I'm not putting
you through another ounce. You can't spare a second to
see themselves of like pain. And I think that's like
just ultimately what it was so like easy and easy,
even though it's not an easy decision, but it made
it easier. Just you just know she's in pain. Yeah,
(22:54):
that's it, It's done.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And and and if you have an old dog, how
wonderful is that? The luckiest Laila was sixteen.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Unbelievable. Twila was eleven or twelve. I'll never know, but
I think she was like eleven or twelve. She may
have been thirteen. And Lucy's sixteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Amazing, she's strucking yeah doing it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And I feel like she's got like another six months
left inner.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I love that really longer. It is funny at the end,
I feel like we cling on to like, oh, but
I don't want to live without them. I don't want
like I can't bear this pain of losing them. But ultimately,
like just like you said, like, but I love them
more than I love myself. Yeah, so, and I could
can't keep them alive just to make me less sad
for a few more days.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Well, and with Laila, Twila didn't she wasn't that old
that her. She was still Twila. Laila wasn't Layla anymore,
and Layla hadn't been Laila in a really long time.
When after she died, I was going through like old video,
those old photos, and I'm just like, oh, I didn't realize.
I've just gotten so used to taking care like of
(24:07):
these geriatric dogs.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
They're runing a nursing home.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They're just not even themselves anymore. They're so different, you know,
which just gave me a little bit more piece of.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Did you ever feel like they are something called caregiver
like compassion overload? Did you ever feel that where you're
like this is like tough on me, or you're just like, no,
I love them so much that I don't even think
about it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
No, the last like year and a half two years
have been really hard.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I bet, I bet.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's extremely hard taking care of old dogs and then
having them die back to back. Yeah, and just all
I do is take worry about them, take care of them,
fork out money.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I think there's a crazy fun of listeners that are
going to resonate with that, because.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, but what like what the fuck ouse. That's what
my job is though, and I take it's serious, but
it gets I mean, I'm all I do is clean
up piss and shit or puke or like somebody's sick.
Oh my god, we all had uh the norovirus together.
(25:14):
Oh boy, I had it, and then they had it.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What a time to be alive?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah. And then and then a couple of years ago,
like four years ago, they all decided to uh do
a group suicide mission and ate a bottle of carprofen,
the strongest fucking car Profen. They all shared it and
they stayed in the er for like six days.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's a group suicide. I'm gackling. I was like, there's.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Just try to cult group suicide themselves. You're like, I
was coming home from the Bahamas and I got a
phone call and I was like, they gotta go to
they gotta go to an emergency. Yeah, we don't. I
can guess who probably ate the most. I know who
got the bottle open, but they probably all they were
the car Profen. That's another hack. Never have the treat
(26:08):
carprofen ever, great hack. They will eat all of it
and then die and just shove a pill down their throat.
Never get medicine in a treat form. Yeah, this shouldn't
even be offered.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Or if you do, keep it up in the lock.
Oh yeah, because I have seen that so many times.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Oh my god, it was terrible. I was so stressed out.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I cannot imagine. So all of them went to the yar.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
All of them had it in their system. We just
didn't know, like you know, because they're all different sizes,
and I was just like, well flush them all, I
don't know, like pump everyone's stomach. Like it's like, what's
the bill? And then I got a dog insurance so
that yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
After that's another thing. I need to do a whole
episode on insurance for our pets, which I will get
to that, but it's if you can get it, especially
before have any issues wrong with them. I highly recomon.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I had it for Twila and everything was probably forty
grand I maybe paid nine.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, so there's that there you go, well that yeah,
say less, yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And then after she died, they were so awful to
deal with. I had to keep calling back and reminding
them to take her off the thing, and they wouldn't.
And I was like, if I have to tell you
this story one more time, I'm gonna lose my mind. Yeah. So,
and they tried to like up my premium like one
hundred more dollars even though I only had two pets
now instead of three. Yeah, so I just canceled it.
(27:34):
They were great for a minute in met Life.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
At least they covered we won't be getting sponsored by them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sorry, Oh it's okay. I mean, hey, it is your experience.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, but I would say, like especially when they're young,
because they will do things like eat carprofen and all
the random things that dogs do.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So, yeah, it's time, what it's time?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Hilarious?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Was that Twyla, Lucy and Layla.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah they all fucking did it?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Okay, God, yeah they all did it? Great?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Great? Great? Yep?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Did they all the three of them get along having
the big pity mix with two littles?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well, I mean Twyla had like small dog syndrome. She
literally thought she didn't like she just I think it's
like a boxer thing. They're just like always think somebody's
mad at them. Yeah, so she would just try and
make herself so small. Yeah. But I've I had Lucy
and Layla since they were babies like I found Leila
(28:32):
Griffith Park. I got Lucy off Craigslist, like I've had
them since I was twenty four.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What was it like picking up a dog off Craigslist?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I saw her photo and I was like, that's my dog.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And then did you feel like you're gonna get taken
at any point? Or was it a seamless without transis?
It was twenty years ago, okay, so it was safe.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Then it was safe. I drove Orange County and got her.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, Just for all listeners out there, I do not recommend.
Oh no, don't do that doing it anymore?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, no, no, don't do that. Go to years wags and walks.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, yeah yeah, do a rescue at wax Yeah, do
a rescue, do your local shelter, do anything else but that?
Which is where Orvill's from right.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Orbs from wagon walks. I saw him and I was like,
give me that dude.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What's his name? Orville? When you adopted him?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, it Wasbata. You're lying, And I said no, I
actually tried to take two, did you? Yeah? I sure did.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
On sour dough.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, they're like they're the litter. They told me that
I couldn't because puppies bond and then they won't yond
with anybody else.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
This is a big thing littermates. We don't remammend adopting
litter mates. They're either going to be like, like you said,
super bonded and it doesn't end very well for anyone
in the home, or they fight like thoge into like
vicious fights. Yeah, so I'm glad you only had Chibata.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah what a name, what a time? Or what a sandwich?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And now he's our little popcorn boy.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, I know, he's just Orville and he's such an
Orville he is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
One hundred Yeah. Okay, of all the celebrities that you've glammed,
who would you say? I mean, I feel like they're
all pretty big animal lovers. Are there anywhere you're like, ooh,
this is a big animal lover.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I mean Trisha or Wood's a huge animal lover. She
has three dogs, dog rescue. She's just super into.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Okay, yeah, great that I didn't know this because I'm
not from Nashville, and I'm like, wasn't really in the
country music scene. But that is Garth Brooks's wife. Correct, Okay,
got it, Big dog.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Lady Chenowith has a dog named Thunder. She's like always
has a dog.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yes, another dog named Thunder.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Another Thunder.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I wonder if Kristen drinks pbr at her visits.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
She's not, She's not a maybe some moove. Yeah, I
was gonna say a little champagne. Yeah. Chelsea Handler has
always had dogs. She lost two dogs, and now she
has a guy named Doug. I haven't met him though yet.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
She's a dog named Yeah, he's a fluffy chow amazing.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, he seems like a cool guy.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Does she live in La?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
She lives in La Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I feel like takes care of Chelsey her dot Kelsey
Ballerini a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah. Who else? I mean, my friend Kelly Bannon has
two pugs, Like they're just everybody's got. They're a little guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like pretty much all the people we surround
ourselves with like animals for the most part.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, if you don't like animals, I just I know
a couple of people something they don't like animals, and
I'm like, that's probably why you're kind of shitty. Sorry,
I mean, oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's so funny. I mean, hey, she said it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I will say it. I'll put it. I'll make merch
merch dropping soon.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You don't like animals, you're shitty.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, you're kind of shitty. There's something shitty about you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Sure, have you ever or would you ever date it
guy that didn't like your dogs? No, but you never have.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Uh. Yeah, my ex wasn't really as like involved as
I would have loved.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But that's why he's an ex.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
That's why he's an ex.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah. I was always on my like bucket list of like,
marry a guy that will let you have all the
animals and then lo and behold here I am, here's Aj,
Here's Aj and Aj. The older the dog, the better,
more disabled, the better. Like he just take it. Yeah,
he just is Like I was like, oh, I kind
(32:38):
of want to get another dog, like because you know,
Lucy could care less about Orville and she just wants
to like sleep in bed next to me and just
take naps. And Orville's just like chomping at the bits.
Just I feel like he needs a little guy, like
a little friend. And he's like, well, let's go to
the shelter. Let's go. Yeah, And I'm like, oh, you dude,
you you're my guy.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
You should propose. You should propose, No, you should propose me.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He tells me all the time he's gonna marry me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's a timing thing.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is a side note, but Taran was doing my
glam for my podcast cover and you had I kind
of forgot about that started talking to AJ and You're like,
I don't know if he likes me, and then you
showed me his messages and I'm like, Taren, I'm pretty
sure he likes you. And now you're together.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, and now we're together. Well, you know, guys are dumb.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
He's a comedian, isn't he.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you guys joke make funny jokes at home, but
like on your walls?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, uh, he's he's a funny guy. He's much more
like quiet and reserved I mean you've met.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Him, yeah, than when he's on stage.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah. But when he's on stage is like where he
thrives and shines, where like I am like miss his personality.
I'm just so loud and outgoing in real life, but
if you caught me on stage, I would just like
freeze up, freeze up.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
You're a good yin to each other's yang. Yeah, totally
do you guys do anything funny with the animals, like
singed them, took them in a certain way, like anything,
like any weird routines.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I mean, we like laugh at Orville a lot because
he's so funny, and we'll be like, oh my god, babe,
look how cute. Oh my god, look how cute? And
there's like so many photos.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Do you narrate them? Do they have voices?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
A little bit? Orville a little bit because he's just
such a crackhead. Yeah, And Lucy's just like I can't,
I just, oh my god, let me know when this
guy goes to jail, like she's.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
She's like one hundred year old New Yorker that's chain smokes.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, she just wants to play gin rummy.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, maybe a little majong like Love's Party.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, he's like sniffing lines of coke. He's just such
a fucking crackheat.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I love him so much, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I know he's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
All Right, Well, we're gonna thank you. That was amazing.
I love all your animals and you. We're gonna take
a quick break and then we're gonna come back and
we're gonna I've into pawn Order. All right, we're back
(35:14):
for our paw and Order, and usually we play the
intro music, but today we have the vocal recordings of
tarn Feldman.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Hit it dum dum boom boom d.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We nailed it, nailed it. You think this is a
veterinary podcast, isn't. We are multi talented. Alright, So number
one on the list this week, I would not feed
my dog or cat a raw diet.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
People.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I cannot tell you how many listeners I have had
contact me about this. They want to feed them raw meat.
And I cannot say this loud enough. You should not
do that because a your pets. I have seen so
many pets get sick from this. There's a lot of
bacteria and raw meat. And I've also had owners get
sick from feeding raw food.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Ew, cook it. Why can't you just cook it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Cook it, totally, give.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Them everything, gizzards, duck liver, cook it though.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Dude, Yeah, you got to cook it. You've got to
cook it. Raw meat is really disgusting. Yeah, it's for yeah,
for wolves. Yeah, and I'm sure they're like my little
chill wahwahs. Ancestors at some point may have eaten a
piece of raw meat. But if I was to give
him something raw, it would not be cute.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh I'm sure my dogs would get they're too domestic.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
No, yeah, they wouldn't like it.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Carprofen only we're on a strict drug deck. I mean,
they're a little drug addictes. I don't even know what
to say. It's embarrassing, hilarious.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Okay, number two, I wouldn't leave my chewing gum unattended.
A lot of dogs love to get into chewing gum.
In the words of Aran, they might be doing a
suicide mission.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Always gum. Really, I mean I would think so.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But uh oh, gum has xylotol in it, which is
an artificial sweetener, and it makes their blood pressure drop
like very dangerously. They have hospitalize. It's a whole thing. Yes, guys,
I know, watch your gum, hide your gun.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Watch your SIGs, watch your drugs, watch your gum, watch
your pertription drugs, all the thing. Get it together. What
are you doing the gun?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Are you doing the gum, the chewing gum? I don't
know why. This is no science. This is just my experience.
Golden retrievers love chewing gum. It's almost always a Golden
Retriever for me. That's so funny, isn't that funny?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Those little shits? Yeah, what do you what do you
trying to do right now?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
They want fresh breath, They want fresh breath.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Just give them a little puppy Mine have puppy man,
Yeah exactly. But grow up, be an adult and get
a drug drawer like everybody else. God, lock it up,
yez ass all right.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Number three, we're really sticking on the drug here.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Because I never give my dogs cocaine.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
That's number four for today. No Number three. I would
not smoke in front of my pets. I am any
anything really, cigarettes mainly cigarettes, fape. I think it's fine,
it's mainly Yeah, I have seen it. I am an
animal doctor. I do not care if you smoke SIGs
(38:26):
like you do you boo, But animals. I have had
dogs and cats develop asthma.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh my god, second hands pool, what are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I know this is like really turning into us lecturing listeners.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well, at some point, just grow up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
So, if you're gonna smoke, smoke outside and don't smoke.
I have seen there's also videos going around if people
are smoking weed and then blowing it in their pets faces,
trying to get them high. Yeah, that's not I do
not like that. Yeah, I don't think my listeners are
doing that. But you know, if you've seen people.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I can't. Oh my god. People are so like, why
would you do that? Yeah, dogs don't understand there. They
would probably be so scared to be that high.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Funny, No, it's not. I wish we could take animals
away from people like that.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's not funny, it's not cute.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
No. I get riled up. I know we're I know
I get riled up. I want to beat people. I
want to evaporate them.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah all right, Well, if you're not scared now after
saying this, you should be, because Tarran will find you.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Oh, I'll find you.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yes, they're innocent little creatures. I mean they if they
don't get to make the decision, it's our job to
protect them and advocate for them. So at the end
of the day, that's what we have to do. People
are dumb, Taran. This has been the best that though
in my life I have laughed, I have sweated, I
might have beeted a little bit, I had so much fun.
Thank you for coming away.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Having me, doctor Josie, You're so welcome.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
And then if you guys don't follow Terran you should
is it at Tarrean Feldman.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
At Taran Feldman. And then please go to my silly
little podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You are guaranteed to laugh.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh yeah, it's fun. It's a beauty podcast, but we
talk about all kinds of stuff and it's a giggly
good time.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I can only imagine it.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And then, as always, you can find me at doctor
Josie Vett on Instagram. Send me your questions. Click the
link in my bio to record any questions that you
want to come on the podcast. And then last and
not least, rate review, subscribe, give us five stars. Do
you say that on your podcast? Rate review, subscribe? Oh no,
I don't. I never remember, and they're always like say
these wee things.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You know what. Now I'm going to have to go
subscribe to our.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
YouTube, go subscribe and rate and review and if it's
not five stars, don't give us any at all.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, all right, we'll see you next week. Guys.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Bye, tell your dog, I said Hid
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