CHRISSY METZ & BRADLEY COLLINS: Superstar actress and songwriter talk joining forces on their New York Times bestselling children’s book and album!

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Carol Leon, She's a queen of talking to song. She's
getting not afraid of fing so just let it flow.
No one can do with quiet, Carol. Learn this sounds
are learn. This is a thrill to feed here with

(00:30):
Chrissy Mets and Bradley Collins, y'all are too creative geniuses
in your own right. Y'all have come together to make
this incredible children's book. When I talk to God, I
talk about you as well as Christy. You have an
album that is partnering with it, called Prayed for This Day,
So you have, like the children's book as well as

(00:52):
an album to go along with this beautiful message. Talk
to me about how this got going and how all
this love got poured into the world, especially for the
children starting so young. I love this well. Bradley and
I had the fortune of producing and writing all of
the music with Phil Barton and Liz Rose and some

(01:13):
of the girls from run Away June, and so it
really started when we were getting to know each other
and we were like, oh, like, what was really important
to you as a child, And I was like, for me,
it was about like self esteem and self confidence and
how important that was to instill that in young minds
and hearts, because that's how eventually they're going to walk

(01:33):
through the world. And there were so many things that
like I felt like I didn't necessarily get and I
needed and that have been hard for me during adulthood.
And so I was like, Okay, we can sort of
combine that with for me prayer being so important and
instilled from my grandmother at a very young age that
has gotten me to this point in my life. I'm like, oh,

(01:55):
let's like sort of melt these two ideas together. And
then we we did a couple of different versions of
the book and then luckily found a publisher and an
editor who really saw our vision, and so that's really
the beginning of why we decided to do the book.
So this book is this kind of like a love

(02:16):
letter and like a guide to a little Chrissie. Honestly,
it's funny that you see that, because when we were
on winter break is when we wrote the album, because
it just sort of float out. We were just going
to do like a title track, and I just started
sobbing in the car on the way down to Florida
to see my family, and I was like, Bradley, I
think this is really healing a lot of my inner

(02:39):
child stuff that like I didn't even know it was
going to do. Like that was not I mean maybe
subconsciously and maybe the universe and God was like, no,
you're gonna You're gonna need this too. So yeah, it
wasn't until I had this epiphany driving down to Florida.
It's really wild. I was like like sobbing in the

(02:59):
car and I was like, oh, wow, okay, so this
is going to be good for everyone, you know, and
any age honestly if it's affecting me at you know,
my age now, So yeah, I feel that way. I
feel like I have been doing so much healing work
on myself and like I always I've been like a
work in progress for so many years, and I'll get

(03:19):
to level and I'm like, oh, I got this. I'm
feeling good. Life is great. And then it's like as
soon as you get to the top of the mountain,
it's like there's a whole another valley that comes of
just realizing all of the stuff and so much of
it happens from childhood. And it's not that our parents
didn't do the best that they could right or our
teachers are people who are the ones guiding us, Like

(03:40):
they're all doing the best they can or the information
that they have, but like I just wasn't raised to
be like aware of emotionally what was going on with me,
or emotionally how I was responding to people, or emotionally
how I was like the biggest people pleaser in the
entire world. And I didn't even realize that I would
sacrifice my entire herself. I was actually just having this

(04:01):
conversation with a beautiful soul about learning boundaries and learning
how to stand up for ourselves and not just like
completely giving ourselves away to everyone to try to try
to be loved. Tell me about some of the things
that you were healing yourself with this book. You want
to go, Yeah, well, I you know, as co author

(04:22):
of the book we as, I also had a little
Bradley came came through a lot through writing it. And
I guess go back to when my grandfather was so
sick when I was around the same age of this
book is intended for, and I didn't know if I
could pray or not, because I would also go go
to church and think, am I allowed to pray to

(04:43):
this God that I that my parents talked to, and
the book to me answers that yes, you can. You
could pray for your pets, he could pray for your
friends at school, you could pray for your grandparents. Because
I saw my mom and grandmother incredibly stressed when he
was sick, and I felt really helpless. But this book
answers a lot for me and hopefully for other people
to start the conversation that children can can pray at

(05:06):
an early age and adopt that into their daily daily life. Yeah.
So I know, I was reading go ahead, Chrissy, and
then I was I was gonna hope that maybe y'all
could just like read this book because I know it's
not like super long and it's easy, and I would
just love the message to get out because when I
was reading and I was like, this is so beautiful. Yeah,
we'd love to Yeah for me, I just it honestly,

(05:26):
when you were saying like healing your inner child and
being people pleasers, like that is absolutely what I did.
And that's why I was like raising my hand and
I was like, yeah, that's me, that's me. And so
many times, you know, we're just not taught, like if
our parents weren't taught to start to put themselves first,
because then that seemingly feels like it's a negative. You
know that you you know you you sacrifice for everybody else,

(05:47):
But the problem is you can't give from an empty well,
I know that's it. Yeah, And it's like you think
you have the secret. It's like, oh, let me just give, give, give,
give gifts so you love, love, love me. But then
you don't even have anything left to give, and you
don't even know who you are, right right? That is.
I think that's a life lesson for all of us,
because I think there's so many people who feel the

(06:08):
same way or of experience what we were talking about,
because it's we are just taught a certain way and
taught a certain thing, and you know, it's the conditioning,
and we believe that it was the right thing. Our
parents believe that it was the right thing. But now
I think, I think goodness therapy is becoming very normalized
and hopefully more accessible to everybody who who really wants

(06:31):
it and needs it. And you have these epiphanies and
you have these discoveries that once you feel back this
one layer of the onion, you're like, oh, oh there's more,
Oh great, but if you never start feeling, you never
get to what's really going on. So yeah, it's just
wild that a children's book would sort of bring that
up for us. But yeah, I'm happy to read it.
You want to read it now, I would love for

(06:52):
you too, And I want to say one more thought
about what you said, because I truly agree with you. Christie.
It's like I have a three year old daughter now,
and I am catching myself like she is very spirited,
and she has like a huge personality and she can
get really intense, and I find myself like getting sometimes
triggered by her, and I'm literally like part of me

(07:14):
wants to react, part of me wants to be like,
stop doing that, don't act like that. But then I'm like,
that is teaching her not to value her feelings, not
to value that what she has to say matters, not
to let herself be angry, not to let herself be frustrated.
I'm angry, I'm frustrated. I get annoyed. I have like saying,
so like, why do we get shut down as children?

(07:35):
You know, because it's like children doesn't need to behave
children doesn't need to follow a suit, children can't ask questions.
Children don't know how to have their own relationship with God.
So I feel like that is like what I'm trying
to rewire myself, because what this book is saying too,
it's like we all have this access to God and
we all are so valued, but it's just learning that

(07:56):
and understanding that. Well. I think that, I mean, this
is a very big concept of that. You know, the
child chooses the parent. Yeah, and you know there's a
whole thing that there are things that she's bringing up
for you because the things that you need and want
to work on. And it's not like and it's not
oh gosh, my child's this or that. It's like, oh wow,

(08:18):
what can I learn from him or her? And I
see that with my nieces and nephews. I'm like, oh wow,
Like there are certain things that I would I'm like,
I'm not the parent, you know, Like I just get
to witness this and help them and love them and
listen to them. And I think that's most of when
I was in a preschool teacher, like every single kid
just wanted to be heard, just wanted to be listened to.

(08:40):
And that sometimes is not even I mean, it can
be difficult, especially if you have a lot of kids,
or have a big family, or you're teaching a lot
of kids, but you have to make the time to
listen to them because that's all they really want. And
then the different behavior kind of goes away and you're like, oh,
they were just seeking attention, validation, love, you know, considerate
for their feelings and just saying I hear you. I

(09:02):
know you're upset that he took the toy. I'm so sorry,
as opposed to, well, why are you upset It's just
a toy. Yeah, you negate the feelings and so yeah,
just being heard is a really really important thing. And
for me, I'm so glad you brought this up because
as it is a children's book, it's so deep, you know,

(09:23):
we try to really simplify it because it's such a complex,
you know, idea of you know, talking to a higher
power and also bolstering the self confidence and self esteem
and the connection between a parent, a mentor a child
whoever's reading the book to the child. So, without further ado,
shall I read it. Let's do it. When I Talk

(09:44):
to God, I Talk about You by Christie Nuts and
Broadly Callin's Illustrated by Lisa Fields, When I talk to God,
guess what I do. It's really quite simple. I talk
about you. I pray for the day that you would arrive.
I dreamt of your smile and the color of your eyes.
You're sprouting like a weed kiss by the sun. I
love hearing your giggles. You're so silly and fun. When

(10:07):
I talk to God, I talk about you making first
friends and learning to share, showing your kindness and saying
you care. You're such a great helper and the best
listener too, always thinking of others and what you could do.
I'm proud of how brave you're learning to be, and
you can do anything if you believe. When I talk
to God, I talk about you. Some days you're calm,

(10:28):
taking things slow, and some days you run on your
markets like Oh. There are days you'll have questions, some big,
some small, a hope or a wish. There's a plan
for us all. When I talk to God, I talk
about you. But did you know that you can talk
to God too. Your prayers are her a day or night,
God's by your side, a warm, safe life. Pray God

(10:51):
guide you and all that you do, and blesses the
ones who love you too. Tonight as you sleep so
cozy and still God, here's your prayers and always will.
You are my sweetest prayer, a dream come true. You're
health and love and made from it too. When I
talk to God, I talk about you. That is such

(11:13):
a beautiful message. And it's like, you know how Tom
Petty like he's everything's so simple, but it's just so profound.
It like hits everything he writes. It just hits the core.
But it's like so understandable. I feel like that's how
this book is. It's like it's so understandable, but it's
so big. I love that. And that brings me back

(11:35):
to trusting yourself, like what you guys said, learning how
to trust yourself? Who said this or what I'm gonna
say this wrong? But trusting yourself is showing yourself over
and over that you follow through with what you say
you're going to do for yourself. And that's consistence and
protecting yourself. Because no, that's what I have realized, Like

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I have wonderful people around me, like I've been raised great,
but like still nobody can protect me. You know, no
one can protect me. And I think I finally realize
that is that I have to figure out how to
protect myself. I have to figure out what my spirit
is wanting to do. I have to figure out how
to have boundaries. But that is stuff that is so
hard to learn. How do you teach yourself how to

(12:21):
push forward? Both of y'all have done really big, brave
moves into following your soul, into putting yourself out there,
into trusting your connection with God and doing what you
feel called to do. How do you move past those
big voices that you're scared are going to judge you,
that you're scared are going to make you feel bad,
that you're scared are going to talk bad about you.
How do you push past all that noise and get

(12:44):
to the point where you trust your calling and you
trust your connection with God, that you're brave enough to
actually do what you need to do to fulfill your purpose,
and have conversations with people and let them know this
is how I'm living. Whether we jell on it or not,
you know, but this is the steps I'm taking. Because
a lot of people have a lot of opinions about
people doing thank public eye, Well, that's the thing is

(13:07):
everybody's allowed to have their opinion, and that's fine. One
of my first agents and bosses said to me, a
third people are gonna love you, a third of people
are going to care less, and a third are gonna
not like you. You focus on the third that likes
you and loves you and supports you. But also my
thing is what is my intention and what I do,
whether it's writing a song, singing a song, writing a

(13:27):
children's book, is my what thumb print do I want
to leave on the world, what legacy do I want
to leave on the world? And also what makes me happy?
You know, um, obviously outside of you know, as long
as nobody's being hurt or it's like people are deserving
of finding their own happiness, and you have to really

(13:48):
put your blinders on and say like, oh, well, this
might not be for you, like some people like all
lives on their pizza and some people like pepper. It's
as simple as that, like you like what you like
what you like, and you having your intentions on how
you want to live your life, and you're serving in
that if you're on this point of existence, you're purposeful
and you're meant to be here and to follow your
you know, your heart's desires. And so I think you

(14:09):
just have to go back to, like what's making me happy,
what's fulfilling me? How do I leave something positive or
creative or whatever fill in the blank on the world.
And it's really scary. I'm not, like, it's still scary
for me. I want to really reiterate that because I
am like question myself all the time, like should I

(14:29):
be doing this? I don't know, like every time you know,
And I think that's it's sort of self preservation, you know,
thinking like, oh, well, don't do this, and then every
time I go through with it. Every time I, you know,
have a show where I sing a song, I'm like,
oh my gosh, that was so amazing, Like, oh, I'm
so grateful that I have this ability to do this.
So that's sort of like the confirmation for me. But

(14:52):
I think checking in with your intentions is really a
barometer for me that I always use. That's why why
are we doing anything? Yeah? Yeah, like why do we
do it? Like even as as simple as posting an
Instagram story or post, I'm like, what am I doing?
Am I looking for validation? Do I want somebody to say,

(15:12):
oh you look pretty, Oh you sound great? Oh I
think you're this or that, or am I doing because
I want to share, you know, and none of it's
wrong or right. It's what you want to do. But
there are you know, there's always a repercussion of whatever
you do right. Percussions have a negative connotation, but there's
always what do you do Newton's law physics. For every action,

(15:35):
there's an equal and opposite reaction. So if you're putting
out an Instagram story because you want validation, you know, oh,
you're you're pretty, you're great or whatever, it's like, okay,
but that's But then if you're putting a story out
there because you have this message on your heart and
you feel like your gifts that God gave you to
seeing is bigger than you, it's like you're actually tapping
into the bigger reasons, so you're gonna get a bigger reaction.

(16:01):
There are sometimes you do need to be validated. Yeah, say,
oh you look beautiful, But if you don't feel you're beautiful,
if you don't feel like you're doing something that's honestly
fulfilling you on like a soul level, it doesn't matter
what people say, Like you can get attached to the
good or the bad at that point, you know, so
it's really just coming back to self and really being

(16:21):
clear about what what do you want to do, what
makes you happy, what you want to leave, because that's
really the only thing that matters, you know, Like we
can get bogged down about anybody's opinions, So how do
we feel about ourselves? You know, that's for me a
very big deal. And sometimes it's great and sometimes it's not.

(16:42):
Every day is different. I think the biggest thing is
not looking at fear is a bad thing. I mean
five years ago, I would never have said this because
I had a job that I thought I liked but
I really didn't, and I left it and I ran
towards what scared me the mostent was songwriting and behind
the fear is happiness and purpose. And I found that
whatever scared me the most was what I needed to

(17:03):
be doing because that's problem, that's what my heart really
wanted me to do. Um And it's not easy, and
it's not something that you can just jump in and do.
Like learning to be brave, you have to learn to
run towards things that that scare you. And I'm so
glad that that I did because it produced this book
and this album and you know, this great collaboration with

(17:26):
my girlfriend. So it's been it's been been a blessing,
just getting out of my own head. And that's the
thing too. Think about this, if let's talk about you
in particular badly, If you would have stayed in your
job that you were very good at and very respected

(17:46):
at and had so many people that you know, you
had great relationships with, and you know you're doing a
lot of really cool things, that would have been a
totally fine job for you to stay with for the
rest of your life. There would have been you could
have just never pursued anything else, no one ever think anything.
You would never have to question yourself. You could have
just continued on, but you're inner spirit kept telling you

(18:10):
do this. I made it work, but I could have
made it work. I could have made it work, but honestly,
I was sunk into a clinical depression and I couldn't
have stayed there, because that's what happens when your spirit.
I feel like your spirit, and I've heard Oprah say
this before, and lots of people say this before, and
I'd just like, I love to talk to enlighten people
like yourself because I just am always gathering information and

(18:33):
people who are willing to take the risk, because if
you're not willing to take the risk, you're never going
to get the reward. Like if you wouldn't have left
your job, you would have never met Chrissy. Y'all would
have never been able to fall in love and have
this relationship. You would have never written this book. This
book would never have existed because y'all's relationship wouldn't have existed.
So because of y'all's relationship, this book was able to

(18:53):
be created. Not that each of y'all couldn't have written
another book, but this particular book would never have been
written in such a beautiful way to start talking to
the children, to impact lives at such a young age,
to start expanding their mind at a young age, like
the ripple effect is so positive and huge, Like this
album would have never been created with this music. It's

(19:15):
just like if you don't listen to your soul that
is whispering to you, and then it starts to talk
to you, and then it starts to kind of talk louder,
Then it starts to yell at you, then it starts
to scream at you, and then to the point like
you're saying, lay if you don't listen. That's when people
get into the deep depression because now they're trapped. It
was screaming at you. What does it feel like when

(19:37):
your soul screaming at you? Well, your body keeps the score,
so like you become sick. Yes, And it's it's so
hard to understand because I had everything that I thought
I wanted to be happy, and I was like, why
am I not happier? Which made me even more upset.
But it's it was I feel like I was spiritually

(20:01):
pulled out of that world that I was in and
sat on well because I wasn't acting like myself. I
was clinically depressed. I was breaking down when I came
home every day after work. I was very sad, just
unbelievably sad. And I know I was because people see

(20:21):
me now and they're like, man, he looks so much better.
I had to get out of there. You know. It
was sixteen years, and five of those years were a
lot of fun, and then I kept trying to recap
for those first five years when I was there. But
it's just you know, I talked to my friends now
and they're like, yeah, I have a job. I can't
wait to retire. They're like forty two years old, they

(20:42):
got like thirty more years left, twenty more years. What
are you doing telling me, like, find something that makes
you happy, and if you're worried about money, it's gonna
find you. Yeah. I would rather have an existence where
I was happy and I was going to an office
every day. I didn't like, oh gosh, but I just

(21:04):
feel like, this is why I'm so obsessed that y'all
wrote this book. And I'm so obsessed that you're talking
to the children and like and also the adults get
the message as well when we're reading it, because if
we don't, And I feel like this is the this
is one of the things that is happening with our generation,
you know, Like I like my parents didn't have the
luxury like you're a saying Chrissie of therapy and all that.

(21:26):
It was more like, you know, get in there and
be strong and don't complain and don't tap into your
deep emotions because we got to put food on the table.
We got to provide, Like we don't really have time
to like self reflect and do all this analyzing of
our soul. But now we're realizing our age. And then
I think the younger ones are probably going to realize
it more that if we don't have our soul and

(21:48):
our mental health checked in with then we're going to
end up exactly like you're saying, Clay, which so many
of us we see it playing out, are unhappy. We're
not doing what our spirit called us to do. We
don't feel that direct connection with God, we don't feel
like we're being brave, we don't feel like we can
trust ourselves, and so it spirals into all of these

(22:08):
things that end up playing out in our life, and
people end up feeling trapped and like they're the victim
and they don't know how they got any situations. But
it's because we're not listening to our soul calling us
and and me as Bradley Collins, I had to figure
that out, you know. And I don't learn lessons easily,
but I'm glad I learned it, you know, but you
did it. But you did it. Yeah, it's and it's

(22:30):
I mean, it's an everyday thing. You know, it's an
everyday thing. Very once and you're like, okay, got it
figured out. Like every single day it presents us with
a new um situation, challenge, experience, that we get to
learn from. Everything is a lesson, and if you look
at it that way, I think that it's a whole
other thing, and it's wonderful because I feel like even

(22:52):
we could teach our parents that, like, hey, like you
can talk about your feelings like there's there's it's never
too late. It doesn't matter you know how old you are, Like,
it does not matter. There's always time for self reflection
and to make yourself a priority, you know. I mean
that's what we're supposed to do. Like this is our

(23:14):
These are our lives, yes where coexisting, but like we
have to do what we need to do for ourselves.
And those are the lessons that we're here to learn.
So they're just they are hard. And if we don't
protect ourselves and like actually let ourselves be who it
wants to be, then no one else is going to

(23:34):
do that. Do you guys have now that y'all both
are you're so aware you both have had huge leaps
and you're done huge leaps of faith in your career.
Y'all are constantly like evolving and putting yourself out there
and following your spirit and connecting to God. Do you
guys have practices that you put in place if you
feel like you're spiraling, or if you feel like you're
losing grip, or if you feel like you're out of control,

(23:56):
Like is there something that you do to get centered
again or is there bounds that you live by when
it comes to like your schedule and what you share
with people and how you give of yourself, Like do
you guys have like protection in place or do you
have like mantras or any kind of self practices to
make sure you stay in connection with yourself? Yeah, I
mean I know for me, what I need to be

(24:19):
doing more often is journaling, because yeah, oh yeah, it's
a difference, and I do. I think I'll journals speak
where I literally write down whatever I don't want anybody
ever to hear and burn it or delete it or whatever,
just to get out that the first layer of the feelings,
because those aren't facts. Feelings aren't facts, but like what's
down here, Like I'm angry at so and so because

(24:41):
they didn't so and so, and I'm like, wait, I'm
upset with myself because I didn't draw the boundary to
tell them that I couldn't do the job. So now
I have to do the job, and I'm really upset
with myself. So it really gives Yeah, it really gets
down to like the core of what's going on, and
so that is always really helpful. I always start with
the gratitude list every morning because I feel like we can.
I can, I can get sort of out of hand

(25:04):
with like what I have to do, whether we're promoting
a book or whatnot, not that there's so much to
be grateful for already, like something simple as electricity or
running water, or like I can walk to the bathroom
of my own. Things that we sort of take for granted,
I take for granted. So that always helps ground me.
Journaling a gratitude list therapy obviously. You know, I have

(25:27):
friends who are part of a support group when we
chit chat and sort of bounce text back and forth
if you know, I'm feeling a particular way, and they
sort of get me back to the center as opposed
to spiraling out because it's so easy to do. You know,
it's so easy to do it. It's impossible not to
do it unless you set yourself up with systems like this.

(25:49):
And I feel like what I'm hearing you say, and
this is how I feel too, is like just getting
it out, getting these things out of us, you know,
like if we keep all this in us and then
like once you get it out, you actually they realize
your part to play. And that's what I've realized too.
It's like where is my part? And then drawing that
boundary is it? Has it been hard? Because this has
been really hard for me. I don't know if it's
been hard for you guys to speak your boundaries to people.

(26:12):
Oh yeah, be oond uncomfortable. It's the worst. It's the
worst because it's hard for me. Boundaries are not for
the other person. And as a people pleaser, I have
to say, listen, I can't do that for you. I'm
actually unavailable. And I'm like, goodness, Like, if I tell

(26:32):
them I'm unavailable, will they not like me anymore? Will
they never ask me to do it again? Will they
think that I can't handle it? Will they think that
I X, Y Z fill in the blank? And then
I'm like no, Actually, what it does is they trust
me now to say I can't do it, So when
I can, I really am going to do something one
hundred percent. Yes, you're letting people know you, and you're

(26:53):
letting people know your bandwidth. You're letting people know your availability,
You're letting people know what you can fully give yourself to.
Because I feel that same way. I am just no
learning boundaries. I used to give and give and give
and given myself to the point where I kind of
hated everyone because I felt like I was being taken
advantage of it, overwhelmed, resentful. I'm like, but do not

(27:14):
know that you're like asking too much of me? But
it's like you have to figure I had to figure
that out myself, and it's really hard to protect ourselves
and have boundaries, but to go step further into the resentment,
it's really you're resenting yourself because you've said yes even
though you didn't want to do it or couldn't do it.
And then I think, oh, I'm a people pleasure because

(27:35):
I want people to like me, but by trying to
please them, they're not going to like me because I'm
not being honest with myself and they can't trust me.
And I'm like, oh boy, this, let me get off
this ride. This is too much not the ride I
want to be on. So yeah, it's always uncovering, discovering, discarding.
On a day of the basis for sure, and I
didn't mean to interrupt. If you have a thought by sorry,

(27:57):
you are so cute to each other, you're so respect well,
I queue to each other. Yeah, he's an angel, an
angel from the hand by having boundaries, trusting yourself, loving yourself,
being brave. Look at what you've been able to find
with each other. Like, unless you take those actions and

(28:20):
claim them for yourself, you're not going to find a
match of the same. You know that's true. You know
it's true. And also one more thing about this that
you're saying, Christie that I just want to drive home
because a lot of women listen to my podcast and
I feel like women a lot. I mean men too,
but women a lot. We doubt ourselves with people please.
And it's like, if we're people pleasing, because if we

(28:42):
want people to like us, we're actually not letting people
know who we are, so they like a version that's
not even who we are, right, And then we're like, oh,
resentful that you don't like us, But you're like, oh,
they don't even it's not even who I am. It's
not even me, it's not even me. And I mean, obviously,
all we want is to authentically be loved for our

(29:03):
authentic selves. So yeah, I mean I have friends who
are like, no, I'm not doing that, and I'm like, wow,
they're so awesome, it's so amazing and they don't care,
you know, like they're they're like, I'm cool with like
not having to I can't please everybody, And I'm like,
you're absolutely right, And I find that so commendable. And
I try to take a figure out of their book
because I'm that's what I want to do. Of course,

(29:23):
you don't have to do it in a rude way
some friends direct, but I think that it's just really
important and whether you don't have the bandwidth or you
just don't want to do it, like that's okay, you know.
I think as women were taught to like well, I
mean that's very deep seated from many, many many moons ago,
that we're supposed to please and make sure everything's right

(29:46):
and just perfect and just so, and we forget ourselves
in the process. So yeah, I mean I catch myself
all the time. I'm like do I want to do this?
Do I actually want to go to this thing? Like
what's in it for me? And my therapist always says,
what's in it? For Chrissy. Is it gonna give you
peace of mind? Is it gonna bring you happiness? What
is it gonna what is it gonna do for you?

(30:08):
And I've never thought that way because I've never been
taught because it's not selfish, because we're not to be selfish,
but you have to be selfish. You have to be like,
if you're not taking care of yourself, you certainly can't
take care of anybody else. So yeah, all I think
that one thing is for all the ladies who are listening,
all the people who are listening, like what's in it
for you? What's in it for you? Is a really

(30:30):
important message and mantra I like to sort of keep close.
That has helped me in a lot of ways. And
sometimes I do something and I'm like, I knew I
should have done it. I knew I should have said yes,
you know, And then that's the lesson I was supposed
to learn, the confirmation trust myself, trust myself. Absolutely. Yeah, man,

(30:56):
let's talk a little bit because I know you'll have
so many interviews to do and we need to wrap up.
But like a little bit about this album Prayed for
this day. Talk to me about how y'all wrote this book.
This book came out of your souls. It's so beautiful.
It's such a great message for the children and the
parents and adults, like we all need this message. And
then you're like, oh, the music's coming, the music's coming,
tell me about the album that came to And also,
Bradley for you, was that awesome for you because now

(31:18):
you have fully this is an album. Is this your
first album that you fully been a part of? Yeah,
it is a huge congratulations its complete crowd first complete album. Yeah.
Still Yeah. We had an audio book went along with this,

(31:38):
and they had some stock music and we were kind
of like, I think we can do something better, and
we went in and wrote with Phil who's just Phil Barton,
Oh my god, the greatest guy on the planet. What
joy Joyce the children's writer I mean, And he was
actually in a children's group like the Wiggles or something
in Australia. He was even the Jellian version of the Wiggles.

(32:01):
And we went in and we wrote one song and
one song Tonto two to three. Then he was like, hey,
you know, let's get Liz Rosen here and we wrote
three songs with her and it just happened very quickly.
Over wins your break, and I mean, for us, it
completes the picture of what the book is saying, which

(32:22):
is there's a plan for everybody, and it's as much
for people that want to have children that it is
that for people that have children. Their responses we're getting
are just unbelieving. Some of the most special messages. One
woman was sharing that once we announced that we were
adding the book, She's like, I was praying every day
for a child, and she's like, and now I'm pregnant

(32:43):
and I can't wait to read the book to my child.
And I'm like, okay, what Like she ordered it, She
pre ordered it when she wasn't pregnant, and arrived when
she was was oh my gosh. Her parents who are
not even you know, who are thinking about fostering or adopting.
You know. It's we really wanted to make it inclusive

(33:04):
in that way, and so of course we wanted to
make the music inclusive. And we really took from each
of the lessons and each of the pages and wanted
to write music. And I'm sure you've heard me saying
the jillion times, but my grandma always said that singing
was like praying twice, and so I feel like that's
really in the album. But also that there's a song
called no Matter What, and the message is that no

(33:27):
matter what you choose, no matter what path you decide
to go down, I will love you no matter what.
And I think, yeah, and that other plays the fiddle
on it these and um, you know, it's just so
important to know that, like, no matter what, you're loved,
And I think that's a message that doesn't matter what

(33:49):
age you are. We need to hear that, you know. Um,
So that's one of my favorite songs. But yeah, we
just wrote of a winter Break. I think we did
four days and wrote ten songs and then oh my god,
this is I'm probably out of y'all. Yeah, the book
is made to sit your child asleep with a good intention,
and the album will send them to sleep. So it's
in the best way, the best honestly my niece because

(34:11):
they were like and also what's really special is I
have nine nieces and nephews and some of them, the
younger ones, are singing on two of the songs, like
going back up vocals and stuff. It's so cute. And
so they've made like our test market and so we
played one of the songs, one of the lullaby songs,
and my niece was out and like the first for
the first chorus, I was like, Linda, Yeah, it's really cute.

(34:33):
So I'm so excited about this because I've been playing
lullabyes for my daughter to put her to sleep, and
it's the same thing it's been. She's been going to
sleep fast. But like I never have like there's not
a believe it or not, there's not like a killer
lullaby album out there that I've really found, and like,
listening to this one, I'm like, this is like the
messaging we want our kids to hear. It's so beautiful,

(34:54):
it's such a it's such a peaceful send off to
sleep while giving you that positive, company encouraging message. It
really is. You can feel the love and you can
feel you guys are doing this because this was put
on your hearts to do it, not for any other reason. Yes,
it's wonderful. I have a book. It's great to have
an album, but like I can tell, your intentions of

(35:16):
why you're doing this are so much bigger. It's to
really instill I feel, at least this is a message
I'm getting from it really instill and the young people
and anyone reading that you are, like you said, perfect,
just the way you are. Your feelings are wonderful, your personalities,
how you feel. One day you want to hot run
and jump and right it said go another day you're
feeling slow. It's like it's all good. Yeah, Okay, we're

(35:40):
not just one thing, and we won't just be just
one thing. And you know it's just yeah for me, Yeah,
it definitely. The intention was that. I just like the
inner child stuff that came up, Like, I just want
people to know that they're important, you know, one that
they are loved, and I think that that starts at

(36:04):
a very young age and you tend the soil and
you never know, Like that's the children are the future.
As cheesy as it sounds, they really are. And if
we can sort of redirect and condition in a positive way,
then that and if it touches one one person or
ten people, that's our intention and we're just really grateful

(36:29):
to even have the ability to do it. Yeah, absolutely,
I said that. Okay, I can't leave this interview about saying, Bradley,
my husband is telling me this, I said, Bradley and
Christ and he's like, oh my god, you have to
talk to him about you have so many skills, but
one of them is you're actually a professional barbecue judge.
I am, Yeah, I love it. Kansas City Barbecue Society

(36:51):
Certified judge. So I've can I took a class. I'll
try to get Michael to take it. He's gonna get
the old band to take it. But it's it's awesome,
and it's like whenever people want to know an interesting
fact about you, I say that, and it's it goes
over really well. But I can judge barbecue World Championship
style barbecue, and I'll I'll leave you with this fall

(37:15):
off the bone. Ribs are overcooked ribs, they are they
are considered to be mushy and not good. So you
want to be able to tear it off or pull
it off with your hands and not have it fall off.
That's that's the biggest thing I can leave you with
about barbecue and how and how to view it. So

(37:35):
you're like a somnia or whatever for barbecue exactly Level
one judge. Yeah, I wonder when y'all go eat barbecue,
are you just sitting there going like, oh god, they
miss it. On this or they got it? Are you critique?
You can't help it. I'm far enough into it that
I can appreciate it. But I'm not a snob, you know. Okay,

(37:58):
that's and that's a fine line. Like first of all,
I went to nap. I'm like, I'm just going to
learn to enjoy wine more and not dislike it more.
You know. That's that's that's the big thing. Yeah, that's amazing.
Y'all are amazing. It is such an honor and a
joy and a privilege to get to talk to you guys,
hear your story, hear your mind and how you guys

(38:20):
have utilized your own self and skills and trusting yourself
and learning how to trust your spirit and then transferring
this message into this book with trusting yourself with God
and learning to how to have your relationship with God
and how to value yourself from such a young age.
This is such an incredible message that you guys are
putting into the world with this book, with your album.

(38:42):
Thank you so much for contributing all that you do
to the world to make it a brighter place. I
seriously feel y'all's love and energy, and I am so
grateful to be in your presence. I always wrap up
with leave your light. What do you want people to know?
It's super open ended. Oh I think I've said it already,

(39:03):
but that they're purposeful, that they're loved, that they're important,
and that you are enough no matter what, Like if
you've never accomplished and I put that in quotes, or
you don't feel successful, like you're enough just as you
are without anything or any accomplishments or awards or accolades.

(39:24):
You're enough just as you are. And I'd say again,
run towards you fear and find your happiness because if
you're happy, then you're living the best possible life you
can and you impact people in the best possible way. Hallelujah.
Drive them mind you guys are as in? And then
where can everyone find the book and the album? The
album is on of Apple, Spotify, any restreaming service, and

(39:49):
the book is anywhere children's books are available. It's it's
coming up. It's gonna be a Walmark soon, but it's
on Amazon, yeah, anywhere else, local bookstores. Congratulations, Congratulations on
this huge accomplishment, this awesome gifts the world and for
both of you all making your first album. What an incredible,
beautiful album that is beautiful and amazing. Y'allre awesome. It

(40:14):
was such a joy to talk to you. Thank you
so much, and I'll see you all out there. I'll
see you out there in the bad world. Here bye,

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