March 1, 2017 • 37 mins
Ali Ryan! This chick styles/cuts/colors ALL the stars; I'm talking FGL and their wives, Thomas Rhett and his wife Lauren, Jason Aldean and his wife Brittany, Dan and Shay and their fiancés, Miranda Lambert, Kasey Musgraves, Kelsea Ballerini, Michael Ray, Jake Owen, just to name a few. She literally has her hands in everyone's hair! She also co-owns The Dry House with Dierks Bentley's wife Cassidy. Star power for days. Ali and her stylists don't just do celebrities though, they are the premier blow dry bar for anyone in Nashville who wants their hair to look fab. And this place is not just going to give you great hair, it's going to give you a great time while you're there. There's always music, champagne, and a fun crew every time you step into The Dry House. I am lucky enough to go every week with my #NashvilleInsider babe Lindsey Caldwell to get us camera ready, and it's always a high spot of my week. Ali also believes in the power of manifesting your dreams, hustling and living the life you imagine. #nashville #podcast #thedryhouse #carolinehobby #fashion #hair
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Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was son. She's
on the side. She got the scoop on on the
on side. No one can do with Clid Carala Carola.
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No one can do with Clid Carol Carola. Hey, y'all,
welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
I know music, I know people, and I know the
questions do you want to ask? So let's get Hyper
heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
could be adult content you guys. This episode is awesome
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because I have the hair stylist to the stars. That
is right, Ali Ryan is joining me for this episode.
She started the dry House, which is in Nashville with
Dirk Spinley's wife Cassidy, and it's amazing. She does everyone's
hair from Dirk Spinley and Cassidy to Florida, Georgia, Line
and their wife's, Thomas Rhet and his wife Lauren, Jason
Aldeen and Brittany his wife. She does everyone's hair. She
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does my hair every Wednesday, the girls and the guys
that their Salonda my hair every Wednesday for my show
National Insider with along with my co host Lindsay Caldwell.
She's amazing and she's also just so cool. She believes
in manifesting your dreams and the power believing in yourself
and your passion. So y'all get excited. Here is Ali Ryan. Well,
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Hello Ali Ryan, Hello Caroline. So I'm here in the
famous dry House. It's famous because pretty much every famous person,
everyone and Nashville comes to get their hair done here.
I feel like this was the first dry bar in Nashville. Yeah,
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tell me about your vision for this, how it started,
and how like you launched something like this and then
have every celebrity client come to you. Um, we really
wanted to make a space the best place that you
could ever hang out if you're feeling happy, if you're
feeling depressed, if you just need to dance it out.
Will be your best friends dance it out right, but
your best friends living room. Totally dance in the dryhouse.
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Oh my gosh. We have. We have plenty of late
nights that we do. But um, so we wanted to
make a space that was like kind of like a home.
And so we said, okay, we're blow drying hair. And
I hate the word blow. Hate it. It's got so
many bad like things behind it. It could mean like
very different things, like the blowhouse. Can you imagine the blowhouse.
That would have been terrible. That would attract a different
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clients on different levels too. So we decided to go
with the word drying because we are blow drying hair.
And then house just kind of fit. And then we
decided we wanted to make it like a home. Okay,
that was it. We have the living room in the washroom.
Oh it's like actually a house. Oh yeah, it's a
the washrooms like where you shower up your hair living room,
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and I love it. As soon as you walk in.
Is the lounge. This is a lounge, and this is
your space back here where you cut and color hair. Yep.
We don't necessarily always advertise about it, um because we're
just a blow dry only salon, but the need for
my expertise was large, and so I decided to make
a little space for myself to be able to do it.
Are you allowed to talk about some of your celebrity
clientele because they all as you all the time. Let's
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see it. Let's okay, So tell me some of the
celebs that you do their hair. Um? Well, Miranda, for sure,
color and cut, color, and cut Miranda and blow dry also.
I mean that's a big deal because she's the hottest
female ever of all time. And she's just the best,
the best I do. Jake Owen, Jake Owen to thot
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he's so not sexy. I mean, right, his smile just
makes you smile. I tell you, you just hate running
your hands through his hair. No, I think maybe some
of them hates how much I do it. And then
um I got Dan Shay, both of them, both of them,
they have full heads of hair. Oh my goodness, like carpets. Yeah,
for sure. And I love it because you experiment. You
do a lot of guy's hair, which is great because
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you do a lot of experimental not experimental, but you
do edgy styles with them. Yeah. When I got out
of beauty school, it's really funny. I was like, I'm
never doing men. I hate doing men's haircuts. And now
that it's the most that I do, including Michael Hobby.
Everybody just ind Michael Hobby's hair and he loves it.
Now he's wearing his hair down all the time, which
is great. Um. Karen Fairchild from a little big Downy
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she's a rock star. Yeah, she's the best she's the best.
She's so cool, the coolest. She seems like the cool
cool she's just her energy is like so like you
just chill out when you're around her and you just
want to listen to you know what she has to say.
That's great. Yeah, I want to be centered like that.
She is so centered. I don't know if maybe she's
just overthinking things in her head, but it doesn't come
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across that way at all. And every time she comes,
I'll open up on Sundays sometimes and when we call
it church and she'll just come and we'll have church
on Sundays and she sits here and I just do
our thing, the great way to unwind. Yes, um, Kelsey Ballerini.
He's the cutest, ever, happiest, happiest, happiest girl of all time.
How is she so happy all the time? I mean, look,
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I mean look at her life. I mean she's getting
married to the hottest, most amazing man on the play
Australian too. Let's not forget the accent. Her songs are
blowing out of the water. I mean she's nominated for
a Grammy. Yeah, she's got three number ones in a
row right off the bat, three number ones in a
row right off the bat. Yeah, she's just killing it.
She's killing it. I agree. Um, let's see you do
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with Florida George Line. Florida Georgia Line. That's so funny
because I do them like probably the most of Florida
George Line Thomas Rhett. I love that. So you just
gave Tyler from Florida George Line her new haircut. Yeah,
we wanted to go short, so that was kind of
was that like something you had to debate because he
was kind of known for his long hair? How do
you decide to chop it off? Tyler is so um,
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he's so like, he knows himself so well. He does,
he really does. Tyler. Tyler is the most sing husband. Man.
I've always said my whole life that he's gonna have too. Okay, whoever,
I get married too, because he's amazing. But he's so
he knows himself so well, so well, and he's so
er and confident that everybody was like, no, don't do it,
and he's like, effort. I love my haircut. Yeah it
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looks great. I love it. My wife loves it, and
you love it. Piani's wife. The thing I love about Florida,
George Line and Thomas rhet Is. They love their wives
so much and they have to me. I feel like
started this trending country music where it's pulled me married. Yeah.
I actually remember a story that Tyler told me, And
I don't know if he would even want this out there,
but I'm sure he doesn't care. Um he said, you know,
we're trying to make it like this is years ago
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that they were trying to make a change, that there
was going to be no more them featured with love
interest in any of their music videos. It was either
going to be their wives or was going to be
another couple really, and they were going to sing around
them and Thomas rerhad is the same way. Really, I
feel like it has made people love them more and
embrace their love stories. Oh my gosh, you just want it.
You don't mean they truly like that. Behind the scenes,
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they are just they respect each other and they were
growing their life together and it's really cool to watch.
I mean both sets of Florida George Lyon, Brian and
b K too. I mean Brian and be Cool too.
And that's cool because and all the wives have their
own thing, like Hayley he's married to Tyler has her blog,
The Vogue Trip, which is awesome. And then Brittany and
be Cool have tried Kelly. So like the wives have
their own and Laurens doing like all this amazing saving
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the world. Yeah she's there. They are going to save
the World's Thomas Wrett basically saves the world. Yeah, she
basically saves the world. Like all of my women do
something that they're like changing the world. It's amazing to
see what's going to happen in the next couple of years.
So Thomas Rhett tell me what his hair is like.
He's got great hairs, mohawk at one time. We were
going back to the mohawk right now actually for tour
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because he's headlining his first tour, which is just insanity.
He had the biggest year last year. Oh gosh, this
year just about to be which also I loved. I
Happy Man was about Lauren, like the wives. I love
that it's about story. And his new single called Star
of the Show is actually the first song that he
ever wrote about Lauren. I think he was like seventeen
years old. I mean, how great to be married to
these guys who just love their wives so much. That's
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why I'm not settling. This is why I'm still single. Everybody,
you have great example, I do. I have the best examples,
my father included. But um, Thomas Ratts hair. People don't
know this about Thomas Ratti is actually a little bit
of Middle Eastern, really like Zane. So we try to
like I mean, it's curly, and we try to go
with it and make him embrace it rather than straightening
it or making him do something that's not comfortable for him.
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And it really does work for him. But he definitely
needs a haircut about every ten days because he just
has so much hair. Oh my goodness. Yes. The thing
and I also love too with all these guys that
you do is guys sometimes just do like a basic haircut,
you know, regular guys will just don't even worry about
their hair. But really, got hair is such a statement
for guys, and it can be used as a statement. Um,
it really means the world. I think it's funny that
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I travel with the men way more than even the girls.
What do you do when you like style a guy?
I mean it's like a it's like a pre show
kind of thing. You know. Sometimes we'll have some drinks,
but you know, we just get it flow in to flow,
looking natural, messy but still very done, like they're not
afraid to be like, yes, I have a hair stylist
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that travels with me, and yes, I love what she does.
I love that. I love that. Okay, So basically you're
seeing everyone and cut your music, I mean pretty much,
and then the dry house the so you do the
cut and color of all these stars. But then you
have this whole living room area with tons of stylence.
How many stylensce do you have working for you right now?
I think thirteen. So there's all these stations and you
can come in here and be like, Okay, I want
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my hair to look like Bridget Bardo, or I want
my hair to have like a really cool braid, or
I want to do some sort of messy updo, and
pretty much the dry house can make it happen. You
could literally come every day of the week and get
something a little bit different. I mean you come once
a week and we come every Wednesday. You come every
Wednesday before you show because before National Insider me and
my host Lindsay. But you do some top not sometimes
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the messy beach waves or like I don't think people
realize how much you can do with your hair. I
don't think anyone realizes people just curl it. So what
we're doing is we're doing this huge, huge social media
kind of overhaul where we're gonna be doing tutorials and
we're gonna have all my clients come in the famous
ones and not famous ones that everyone's a star here.
We're gonna have everybody doing something different and you're really
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gonna see how short hair is affected by the dry house,
how long hair, how curly hair, different things that you
can do and not outrageous and out of this world,
like things that you can actually just go to dinner
with some girlfriends wearing on a Saturday night. I love that. Okay,
So tell me how you got into hair, and then
tell me about your vision because you have a very
powerful you believe in the universe, which I do, and
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that's kind of plays into how this whole dry house started. Well,
we always laugh because my business partner is um Cassidy Bentley,
which is Dirk's wife obviously, and so they've been family
for me from the day did they touch anything. I'm
just family for me from the day that you know,
I moved down here. Um, but it was really funny
years ago. Um. Kristen Cavaliery from looking to be too
now is like killing it with the shoes, cookbooks, hood everything.
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She got this giant bulldog and she named him Bentley,
and I was like, what a cool, little sophisticated name
for a dog. Yes, So my boyfriend at the time
gave me a dog for Christmas and I named Bentley.
And so every day I was like, Bentley, don't pee, Bentley,
don't go here, Bentley come. And I didn't realize that
I was putting it out there because look at him
in business with him in Bentley. So then changed my password, Um,
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and I've got. I got the next thing that I wanted.
I know, it changed it to know Bentley was always
the name. So Bentley was your password for our your email,
but you change it so no, and come log into
your stuff now, right everyone, alas email is Bentley her password? No?
And then I changed it to the dry House two
thousand and fifteen, and that was it. We opened two
thousand fifteen, and then I changed it to you kind
of feel like you drew Cassidy Bentley into your life
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one like it was yes, and she was doing it
at the same time, how so, and she because she
wanted to and she wanted to be part of something,
and she loves hair and she loves the beauty, and
so I think even her just thinking about it, we
just kind of like, well, they say, Roomy. One of
his favorite quotes is what you're speaking is seeking you.
So really like y'all were seeking each other, and me
and the Rye House we're seeking each other to which
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is funny. Was it scary to launch a business like this?
Oh my gosh, it was. I don't even remember that
year of my life because it was just crazy, a whirlwind.
I mean, there wasn't ever not a meeting, There wasn't
ever a time I wasn't worried. There wasn't an ever
a time that we couldn't find space. And me and
Cassidy would sit there and be like, well, we want
to do it. We have the means to do it,
you have the skill to do it. Why is it
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not happening? Right? And then Dirks and Cassidy one day
came and they saw this location and they called me
immediately and they were like, oh my goodness, we found
the most amazing location. It's in Green Hills, in the
heart of Nashville. How did you link up with Cassidy Um?
One of her really good friends named Monica Um came
in to get her hair blown out by me and
loved it so much. She wanted to give a very
pregnant Cassidy with Knox with their third give her like
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a little special treatment, And so she came in. She
didn't eve tell me who she was. I had no idea.
We just connected immediately, and I think I said to her, like, oh,
when you're done having that baby, you're gonna go downtown.
And she's like, well, me and my husband can't really go,
like he's kind of a little no. Like she still
would not me who like who it was, but I knew.
So that was a funny story. But did I tell
you about that? I changed my password to Adele. Oh
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tell that story. Okay, change my password to Adele tapently,
So now you're linked up with Cassidy. You started the
dryhouse and now I think I can do Anybody from
the world is my hoister. So now you're like, Okay,
I'm gonna put my passwords. Who I want to link
up with next? I look like it's got to be Adele.
Me and Idel have to be best friends, have to
be So I knew she was to We're already friends
in my mind, and I'm not even I'm a huge fan,
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but it's not even like that, Like I just think
we're supposed to know each other. Feel it, feel it.
So she was coming to Nashville for a show in October,
and so I changed my password and every day I
was Adele two thousand sixteen, Adele two thousand sixteen. So
one day, this British lady calls the dry house on
the phone and she says, um, hi, we would really
like to get it a hair done for a famous
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client of mine. She's a European artist in her name
is Adele, and she's really humbling down to earth and
you're like, holy mom. I was like, Mom, I made it, Adele,
it's coming into the dry I mean. Then we found
out it was her birthday. We got like this really
expensive bottle of wine and clean the whole salon. Every
one of my employees who didn't want to work work
that day. Of course, my mom was sitting in the
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breakroom like peeking out, and one thirty comes around and
two women walk in who combined are not Adele? And
I'm like, maybe they're scoping the place out. No, she
was a famous pigeon painter from Belgium. But I got
an Adele. Hey, you don't enough. You gotta be very
specific here, I know. And my friend goes, why didn't
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you ask for a last name? I was like, I
don't know that Adele has no last name. Does anyone
know her last name? And the woman was British, like
she clearly knew what she was doing. You actually did
you achieved your goal? Oh? It was the worst. I think.
I was so mad during that blowout. I was shaking,
and I feel so bad for this famous Adele artists
because she's amazing in her own right. Pigeons. Hey, a
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lot of people love pigeons. I mean no, her pictures
are amazing. By the way, I'm plugging her now somehow.
But like, and it wasn't Adele, And I was like, well,
who did I think? I was? What you did it
with Bidley? So I know, but Adele Adele Adele? So
next time, you've got to be more specific. Who are
you working on now? No, it's not a secret. Still
Adult two seventeen changed the date, Okay, great, and I
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think I put in something like my whole thing for
two thousand seventeen is no self doubt. Oh I love
that thing. I'm like, instead of getting I don't need
other people were doing great, the business is doing great.
Now I really have to work on myself for a minute. Okay,
so tell me how what you what's your mantra to
like not have self doubt? Well, Thomas Rhett walked in
one day and he just, I don't know, out of nowhere,
said what are you giving up for two thousand seventeen?
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I was like, do you even give any I mean
that's lent, you don't give it? And I, without even
a hesitation, was like self doubt. And he was like,
how are you going to do that? And I said,
just stop second guessing myself. I'm strong, I'm independent, I'm
a happy person. Nashville loves me. I love Nashville. When
I want to color my hair, I'm just gonna do it.
When I want to go somewhere, I'm just gonna go.
If I want a book, a vacation. Instead of doubt,
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I'm constantly doubting. What are you doubting it? Enough? Yeah?
Waiting for that shoot to drop is probably one of
the hardest things ever. I mean, I've built this all up,
but in two days it could be taken away. But
I couldn't really, I mean no, probably not, but do
you know what I mean, there's always that fear that
because it's your baby and you put so much into it,
but then what if, like the rug gets pulled out,
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so we want to open up a bunch more and
we want to do product line. I mean it's kind
of overwhelming totally. So you just have to have total confidence,
total confidence and go into everything like I rock, Like
I have a little moment with myself before I go
and do things. Yeah, it's like a little pep top. Yeah, totally,
a little pep talk that I get fired up. You
have to have you ever watched Tony Robbins. I'm not
your guru, I mean Tony Robbins, Like Tony Robbins is
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the best of the best, but he kind of does that.
You know. You have to like pep yourself up, like honestly,
like tell yourself I rock kind of like my artists do.
Because somebody said to me once, do you ever get
nervous doing all these famous musicians because their hair is
on TV everywhere. I said no, because I really am
the rock star. When they're sitting in my chair, they
saw me out and they brought a ticket to this show. Right, Yes,
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truly so egotistical, But you have to believe in what
you're doing, or else how could anyone else believe in it?
They wouldn't. You have to know your everybody. You have
to know you're great at what you're doing, or else
how could you get anyone else to buy into it?
You wouldn't. So how did all the celebrity clientele start
trickling in? So casually? Me and Cassidy had a moment
where we said we wanted everybody that was famous that
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came into the dry House to be organic. She didn't
want to send an email out to her friends and
say you have to check it out. Dirk's was not
going to necessarily post about it. I mean, he's got
he's posting about what he does. So it just trickled
word of mouth. Being a good person going out marketing
doing one hair and like really loving on it. I mean,
how did you get here? I got here because everyone
started coming to dry House. It was just the place
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is like, if you want great hair, you go to
the dry house, and then you just think award shows
like I saw Brittany, Brittany, we forgot about that. Jason
and Brittany come here up, I got Jason's hair. Yeah,
I mean hello, if I say it too many times,
I have a friend that on my twenty first birthday
gave me a signed picture of Jason all Dean for
my birthday in New Jersey because that's where you're from,
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New Jersey. Yes, and so I had it. And then
the minute he the first time you ever called me,
I ran home. Did you get a picture down and
just put it under her? Bad? I was like, I'm cool.
Now they know me. I don't need to picture an
autograph picks anymore because I got the real thing. So
I just can't say it too many times. It's awesome
in Jason just I mean, you know him personally too.
He's dry, sense of humor, and me and him just
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instantly connected. I mean, Brittany, his wife is the sweetest
and she could anyone be more beautiful. Like I hate
to say that in front of you because I think
you're just as beautiful, but no, no, I Brittany is flawless,
Like she walks out looking like she's ready for everyone.
In a bad mood. No, She's like, I'm in a
bad mood and I'm like no. The thing like Brittany too,
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is like I feel like she's very lighthearted, you know,
like sometimes like I tend to get the lover, I
get very heavy about stuff, she always can keep it
very lighthearted. Yeah, she's a total lover of things, I
mean everything. I mean she can't even stand when Jason
goes hunting. I mean he can't even call her on
the phone. She gets real upset emotional. Yeah, because she
just loves the animals, all of the animals so sweet,
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like St. Francis, that's the saint of the animals. She
is like to tell her that, start calling her Franny
Fanny Franny. Okay, So they just started trickling and organically,
and I think I started seeing you like a ward
just like the A. C m s. You're at their Vegas.
You bring some girls and how we do the dry
House does Vegas. It's the thing we do a party.
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Oh my gosh. We have the music going. Everyone comes in.
There's makeup artists in one side, hairdressers on the other.
Everyone's getting ready. Wardrobe stylists. I mean, it's a really cool,
just fun way because women are so nervous before. I
don't care what anyone says. I don't care how beautiful
you are. When you're about to walk that red carpet,
you have a little bit of self doubt. You have
to pump yourself. You want to look great, and you
want to be confident, and you want to be surrounded
by people who you trust to be like, okay, this
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is okay. Now you're perfect because then you believe it, right.
So that's what we do, and I guess so we
kind of have a pre before there's some champagne. I'm
not gonna lie, not a lot, gotta have champagne. But yeah,
everyone just has a really good time and the music
is going, and we have a dance party and it's fun.
You're gonna come this year. You gonna stop. Oh yeah,
thou show can't be missing awesome. So tell me how
you found your love for hair and makeup. No, you
don't do makeup. You have you do make up? You
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do do makeup. I do. That's like a hidden thing
that no one knows. So, like Lauren Thomas, Rhet's wife,
I will do both for her, which you did Lauren's
makeup for When Thomas Rhett played New Year's Eve, like
the huge show, what's that called Rocking Rocket New y'
Y Works Rocket New Year's Eve, it's the one where
Mariah Carry didn't hurt. Tracks didn't play right this year.
But Thomas Rhet's was perfect. Yeah, Thomas Rhet was perfect.
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His performance went off without a hitch, which is great.
I'm sure that's the most nerve racking show ed Burr
because you don't have any say like your sound doesn't
go right, or say like you can't hear in your
inner ears, like there's no chance to fix it, and
you're playing for like the largest audience ever. I mean,
I think that's Thomas Rehet's biggest fear in life. Was
he nervous? Um? It was great. The thing about Thomas
Rhett was also no one can no one can see
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this on on stage, but you're not playing to that.
All those people you're playing to like a little group.
And his way about her family flew into New York City,
so I love that. And you did Lauren's hair and makeup,
which she has a bombshell. You did that center cut
which looks so good. She has a bright red lips.
She looked like a model. I know, she's the best
she's ever looked. People were telling absolutely, well, she is
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so naturally gorgeous. And then to put like a little
like you know, juju on it that it was out
of this world. Everybody commented under her picture saying, you're
even pretty without makeup, and I'm like, but everybody wants
to feel pretty. Like it's New Year's Eve. People, right
now you want to dress the bright red lips on?
Why not put some eyelashes on? Makeup is so fun.
Guess what it comes off with water? I know, I
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don't know exactly. People just like to I think people
need to start taking chances. I agree with that. Yeah,
so how did you get How did you find your
love for hair and makeup? I don't know if I've
ever had a love for hair and makeup, if that
makes sense, I don't. I was a total tomboy and
you were hundred percent. I think I just didn't want
to go to college. Like it's not like I've had
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this from like when I was two, and so I
went to college for like three weeks and I was
But the thing is I probably did love it like
I can remember doing friends of mine for prom but
not like doing it because I was like, oh I
love this and I'm draw into this and I have
to do it. But I think I've always seen things
in color and hair. Color has always been a huge
thing for me. So you love coloring hair? Oh my gosh,
it's I see it in everything. I see it in
the walls, I see it in trees. I see it
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in leaves and bricks. It's crazy I pick up an inspiration.
It's almost like I have to shut my mind down
sometimes because you see so much color. Oh, I dream it,
so I'll wake up and write formulas down like some people,
some of your clients. Formulas have come to me in dreams.
What do you mean write formulas either or not just
standard formulas. No, I mean you're like a chemist. You
have to like mix different things to get the perfect color. Really.
Oh yeah, so just every person you color have a
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different formula and you dream it all up sometimes. Yeah,
Karen Fairchild's color was dreamed up. Really. Yeah. I was
just struggling with with going a little bit lighter and
making it shiny but still having her dark. And and
then I went to sleep one night I was thinking
about it, and I woke up in like three o'clock
in the morning and I was like, well, four seven five,
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and I was like, just wrote it down. Now. It
wasn't the whole formula, but it was like the portion
that I had been that was hang missing. Wow, isn't
that crazy? You literally dreamed it. I dreamed last week.
I dreamed um a new wave that I started doing,
which Mirana told me was it's her absolute favorite. Now
what is? Oh? Wow, I don't know how. It's just
like a technique and I'm so bad at it that
I look like I've never held a curling iron before.
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And I'm like, it's just because it's brand new there. Yeah,
and everybody seems to really love it. Wow. I love that.
I love how passionate you are about hair. I love it.
I just I mean, it's been seventeen years I've been
I've been doing hair. Okay, so you started star Yeah.
I started in New Jersey. I was a receptionist. Then
I was assisting forever and yeah, and then I like
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dropped out of college. I went to hair school, did
hair all through that and then been doing hair ever since.
And I get girls in here sometimes that I have
to sit down and say, are you sure this is
what you want to do? Is seventeen years later, and
every morning I wake up loving whatever I'm about to do. Do.
Don't you think people should fight to find the thing
they love? Fight, don't ever stop. I had to fight
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the fact that seventeen years ago it wasn't like the
norm to drop out of college and go to trade school.
Trade school was like, oh, you're stupid, you didn't make
it any totally totally, so it wasn't even an option
on the table for me. Now, like people are traveling
with their hair and makeup artists like Kardashians can't go
anywhere without their hair. People crucial and I think it's amazing,
and I'm so happy for the people like the Trailblazers
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who like them. Well, I don't know about that, but
the people, the people that I look up to that
like just we're like, we don't care. This is what
we're doing. It's an art, yep, it's just as much
an art as a painter, a hundred percent, just as
much as a singer. It is, like, and it's all
of it. It goes hand in hand. Like I think
that's Another thing that people don't quite understand is as
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an artist or a performer, to have great hair and
makeup is just as crucial is having great wardrobe. Is
this virtuals Honestly having great songs like it all is
a part of the package. People's style is so important
to their artistry. Yeah, and I think you can feel
more like yourself in certain hair in certain ways, like
even better than you feel as yourself. I'll watch, like
I'll give you a funny story, but like Casey Musgraves
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comes in, and when she comes in without her hair done,
you're you don't even necessarily you're like, oh, there's a
pretty burnett. The minute you bump that up, she's Casey Musgraves,
Do you know what I mean? She's walking out of
here with like her little like pepper and her step
and you can see it like it makes people's days
were daymakers for sure. I love that totally. Yeah. Okay,
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so how did you take how did you decide to
move to Nashville? Because you're in Jersey, How did you
decide to move to Nashville? My grandmother is born and
raised Nashville. Really yeah, and she got sick about or
I guess four years ago now, um, and she would
like start to get little bits of dementia and she
would look at me and she'd be like, you need
to go to Nashville. You need to go to Really
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she did serious. I don't know if she show me.
She's still a bit crazy, but only the best ones are.
And my dad was actually born and lived here until
he was about seven. Okay, So Nashville is always in
your heart, in your mind, my roots. Man. And I'll
tell you what. When I left and I came to Nashville,
I've never felt more at home in my life. Really,
why did you fell at home in Nashville. I don't
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know how to explain it. It's a little deep deep.
We can get so deep battle with a little bit
of anxiety, probably my whole life. I feel like that's normal.
I think it's very normal. I think it's not talked
about like it should be. And I just didn't like
what's about to have? What's about top? I moved to Nashville,
and I fell asleep the first night I woke up.
I've never had anxiety since that day, except I mean
little things like going out on the road or the business.
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But my personal anxiety has never been there before. I mean, after,
why do you think it disappeared? I think I wasn't
at home in New Jersey. It wasn't where I was
supposed to be. And I really think that Nashville was
calling me my whole life. Really, did you feel signs
of it, your whole life calling up? Just how just
in your heart you felt tugs? Yeah? I felt tugs
and things would draw me to I'm trying to think
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of specific things. My dad always listened to country music,
so I think that always and I'd be like, Dad,
come on, that's not cool. We're in New Jersey. Put
on some hip hop, let's do it. But he would
play it all the time. And I think that that
developed my love for country music. And you know, Alan Jackson,
we listened to. Garth Brooks was like huge in my
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family growing up. Um, And so when I moved down here,
it was like everything was right, and my grandmother loved
to hear that I had moved. I thought I was
gonna leave in a couple of years and go to
like South Beach, like Miami. Okay. So I was like,
I'm just gonna stop here and pay homage to my
grandma and I'll be on THEE and my grandmother loved
that I lived, that I moved here. She did. Oh
my gosh, She's never been more proud of me ever,
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heart and soul forever. I love. That was that crazy? Yes,
So tell me about the secret and how you believe
in the universe and all that, because we kind of
connect on that level. Um, yeah, we definitely connect on
that level. I think that I don't really know. I've
never seen in the secret, and um, it's just always
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happened to me. So that's a hard one to kind
of explain. But I'm a firm believer that. That's why
I have my passwords because you type it every day,
so unknowingly you're actually sending it up to the universe,
and the universe is picking up on it. It's like
when you're so scared to get sick and then you
get sick. It's like, right, you draw it to you.
You draw everything to you, for sure, love, friendships, uh, businesses.
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I believe. I know you believe in that too. What's
one of yours? I want to you one of your
stories real quick. I don't know. I think I I
used to be very like fearful about stuff and like
worried and I don't know. I took me a long
time to get clear on what I loved in my heart.
And then once I did that, I started having a
few things happened, Like I got the amazing race that
kind of fell into my life. I always wanted to travel, right,
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that is your story. I always want to travel. I
always want to be on TV. And then that happened.
It kind of like knocked out Two Birds with one
stone traveling and being on TV. And then I just
started realizing that, like, positivity is so much more effective
than be negative. And people don't realize that. People like
to complain so much when they think they should like
prepare for the worst, but I actually think you should
prepare for the best. I think that for me, it's
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instilled in you when I think when you're little that
you can't have everything, and but it's why not? Why
why can't you? Like I'm always like I used to say,
I'm a balanced scale. So I wouldn't trade my business
because I'm single. I've mentioned that fifteen times and I'm
not mad about it at all, because you're waiting for
the right guy, right, But I was like, I'm why
would I settle with a guy. But I can have
a perfect guy and a perfect business and the best friends,
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and you know, you can have it all. I know,
but I don't know what where in our childhood gets
instilled in us that you can't I don't either. It's
like when you say to a little girl, when you
say to a grown adult, oh my gosh, I love
your outfit, they're like, oh this, Oh, I got it.
It was only ten dollars. Instead of just saying thank you.
When you say a little girl that dress is beautiful.
As she goes, I know right, there's nothing they're so
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they know they look beautiful and they feel it. So
somewhere after that the fear is instilled, and it's like
and I just wish we could change that somehow. I agree. So,
but where did you get your like where did you
when did it click? Or have you always known just
to believe in the power of your dreams and like
positivity and a secret and all that. Um. I think
for me, karma is a huge, totally thing. And I
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feel like there was a year, probably when I was
twenty four or five, that I completely cleared all of
my bad karma. How do you clear all your bad
karma you It just comes back to you, and when
it's done, you have to say, like, this is happening
for a reason. So like you had a heavy year,
I had a heavy I was always necessary. I would
talk behind people's backs. Yeah, I know that. When I
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was young, I was I would like to make myself
feel it was all about my own insecurity totally. It
would be it's kind of fun to gossip and talk bad.
I did that when I was in my twenties two.
I completely try with all my heart not to do that.
And so um, I remember when I walked in on
a couple of my friends talking about me and it
didn't feel good. And I feel like that was my
karma and they became not my friends and I started
only being people that bring things to the table, right,
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you know, because I'm like, I built this table, I
clok the meal I'm serving at this table. When love
is no longer served, you need to be able to
get up and walk away from it. I love that.
So I just like clicked in your head that I
don't want to be a part of that anymore. I
just didn't want to ever have negative come back to
me for something that I've done, or that I've inflicted
on another human being or an animal or my employees
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or whatever. I love that and I keep getting it
like I'm still learning. We're not perfect and the way
to work in progress here. But I think um that
you and I are different. We're on like a different level.
I know the first time I met you, we like start,
we connected really quickly because we're we're going for the
same things and believe almost believe in magic like I
consider it magic. I believe in magic too, and I
like I love supporting other women and watching them see
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their dreams come true. You have another hand tasers. I'm like,
there is enough celebrity. Oh my gosh, one day I'm
not going to be able to do this, So be
the next one that takes over. I'll be onto something different.
I agree. And to wish ill on people only brings that,
Like you said, karma if you are putting some heavy stuff,
even if you're like secretly wishing someone, they're all secretly
wishing people failed. I hate it if you secretly wish
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someone fails. So what I don't think people realize is
karma is so we're still putting it into the universe.
You're putting that energy out there, and for every action,
there's an equal and opposite reaction, and that includes your thoughts. Yeah,
and we have a bunch of haters in this town
because of what we're doing and where we're headed and
their own insecurities that they can't ride, you know, the train.
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I always say to people, you're either on Ali's train
or you're in my way pick wisely, and it's not
meant to be rude, but I'm gonna do everything with
love and I'm not going to fail because of that, right,
And so, like I said, there's enough room for everybody
basically and enough growth. And so for me, I just
I was like, listen, you've been a shitty person. Why
don't you try being a good person. See what happens
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and whoa, whoa life changing. It's totally life changing. And
I love what you said. This year is your year
of no self doubt. So combining no self doubt with
love and wishing everyone will but then just staying focus.
I mean, it's NOTNDS to me like you're gonna be
taking over Nashville. I want to. I want everyone Nashville
to have beautiful hair. I love that just changing it
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just changing Nashville one hair at a time. Tell me
your dream for two thousand seventeen. Um. I think happiness,
like in like always just to be happy all the time,
to be happy all the time, like no, because you
have days. I mean like inside happiness where you know,
you know, I had some crappy things that happened lately
to me, and it normally would have led me down
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a down a dark road. But I was like, nope,
you're going up, like don't look back, not going that
way kind of pinterest quote. I love that. So yeah,
So I think that's it. And I want my staff
to flourish too. I want them to come into their
own It's really hard, like when you're when you're like
me and you to have confidence and be motivated because
it's probably one percent of the population make up us,
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which if everyone was like this, don't you think the
world to be such a better place? It would be
the most amazing place. But you could switch your mind. So, like,
my advice to everybody is always like be a good
friend to somebody, talk to them. Everyone's going through something
that they need to work out. And it was really
hard for me to change. I had to dedicate how
did you change? Oh, that's a great question. I don't.
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I mean, I've prayed a lot. You wanted it, I
really really I wanted success and you knew you weren't
going to get it if you didn't change. How did
you know that? Um? I don't know. I'm really connected
so that if you didn't get positive and happy and
like focused on the good, that nothing good was ever
going to come my way. I mean I would have
momentary happiness, but it was never going to be like
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that completed emotional I mean I had to peel relationships
along the way. I had to cut relationships along the way.
And so I think the heat cutting is real easy.
Do you think me? I've front with people and being
honest is crucial. Gosh, it's a crucial. But people can't
handle it. So many people like to drag around and
ignore and sweep out stuff under the rug. But I
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I could have in the same mentality if I have
some weird energy as and I have to clear that energy,
and you don't have to do it rudely or nasty.
I would just sit the person down and say, hey,
can we talk for a minute, Like these three things
are they're not They're not working for me, and they're
probably gonna say get defensive right away, and but eventually
they will come and understand or or they will say,
this is the reason why I've been doing it and
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everything is. It's just a healing process and it's a
really cool one to be part of. You feel light
and happy afterwards. I love mentoring people that have this
because I'm real good at that too. That's probably something
you didn't know mentoring. Yeah, I love mentoring like two
people that are going like being that middle person that
kind of you, Okay, don't get a little loud and
out of control this persons of time to talk like yeah,
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I love that. Okay. So I'm going to wrap up
with leave your Light, so we kind of have this
whole thing has been inspirational. Obviously, you're the celebrity hair stylists.
You do all the most famous people's hair. What would
you from all your experiences with people you obviously you've
worked with like the top of the top, but you
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also work with just everyone. What is inspiration that you
would like to leave people or how you have been
inspired Leave your Light. Oh, I love the segment. I
think that a lot of it just I just talked
about I think just being a really good human being
and not taking people that are famous. I treat my
famous people like their normal and my normal people like
they're famous, and that has literally works for me my
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whole life. I love that because everybody matters, everyone's important,
every job, there's no job that's more important than anybody else's,
and money does not matter. My mom always told me this,
follow what you love and the money will come. I
couldn't agree more. I love that. I'm still waiting for it.
But I mean, you've got an empire here, Ali Ryant,
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thank you too much. You care. I hope you've up
tearing from Alie Ryan and got some insight into what
it's like to be a celebrity hairstylist. Next week, y'all,
I have one of Ali's clients, Brittany Williams, who's married
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to Jason Aldan, and they both are clients of Ali,
So I'm gonna hear all about Brittany's career path, which
is makeup. Y'all. She is so good at doing makeup,
she's so good at style. She talks about life on
the road with Jason. It is so great. She's also
a dear friend a thousand horses toward with Jason Aldeen
all last year, so I got to know her so well.
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She is the sweetest thing that ever hit this earth,
and she's so talented and so beautiful. So y'all get excited.
Next week I have Brittany Williams.
Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was son. She's
on the side. She got the scoop on on the
on side. No one can do with Clid Carala Carola.
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No one can do with Clid Carol Carola. Hey, y'all,
welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
I know music, I know people, and I know the
questions do you want to ask? So let's get Hyper
heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
could be adult content you guys. This episode is awesome
(00:53):
because I have the hair stylist to the stars. That
is right, Ali Ryan is joining me for this episode.
She started the dry House, which is in Nashville with
Dirk Spinley's wife Cassidy, and it's amazing. She does everyone's
hair from Dirk Spinley and Cassidy to Florida, Georgia, Line
and their wife's, Thomas Rhet and his wife Lauren, Jason
Aldeen and Brittany his wife. She does everyone's hair. She
(01:15):
does my hair every Wednesday, the girls and the guys
that their Salonda my hair every Wednesday for my show
National Insider with along with my co host Lindsay Caldwell.
She's amazing and she's also just so cool. She believes
in manifesting your dreams and the power believing in yourself
and your passion. So y'all get excited. Here is Ali Ryan. Well,
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Hello Ali Ryan, Hello Caroline. So I'm here in the
famous dry House. It's famous because pretty much every famous person,
everyone and Nashville comes to get their hair done here.
I feel like this was the first dry bar in Nashville. Yeah,
(01:57):
tell me about your vision for this, how it started,
and how like you launched something like this and then
have every celebrity client come to you. Um, we really
wanted to make a space the best place that you
could ever hang out if you're feeling happy, if you're
feeling depressed, if you just need to dance it out.
Will be your best friends dance it out right, but
your best friends living room. Totally dance in the dryhouse.
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Oh my gosh. We have. We have plenty of late
nights that we do. But um, so we wanted to
make a space that was like kind of like a home.
And so we said, okay, we're blow drying hair. And
I hate the word blow. Hate it. It's got so
many bad like things behind it. It could mean like
very different things, like the blowhouse. Can you imagine the blowhouse.
That would have been terrible. That would attract a different
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clients on different levels too. So we decided to go
with the word drying because we are blow drying hair.
And then house just kind of fit. And then we
decided we wanted to make it like a home. Okay,
that was it. We have the living room in the washroom.
Oh it's like actually a house. Oh yeah, it's a
the washrooms like where you shower up your hair living room,
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and I love it. As soon as you walk in.
Is the lounge. This is a lounge, and this is
your space back here where you cut and color hair. Yep.
We don't necessarily always advertise about it, um because we're
just a blow dry only salon, but the need for
my expertise was large, and so I decided to make
a little space for myself to be able to do it.
Are you allowed to talk about some of your celebrity
clientele because they all as you all the time. Let's
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see it. Let's okay, So tell me some of the
celebs that you do their hair. Um? Well, Miranda, for sure,
color and cut, color, and cut Miranda and blow dry also.
I mean that's a big deal because she's the hottest
female ever of all time. And she's just the best,
the best I do. Jake Owen, Jake Owen to thot
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he's so not sexy. I mean, right, his smile just
makes you smile. I tell you, you just hate running
your hands through his hair. No, I think maybe some
of them hates how much I do it. And then
um I got Dan Shay, both of them, both of them,
they have full heads of hair. Oh my goodness, like carpets. Yeah,
for sure. And I love it because you experiment. You
do a lot of guy's hair, which is great because
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you do a lot of experimental not experimental, but you
do edgy styles with them. Yeah. When I got out
of beauty school, it's really funny. I was like, I'm
never doing men. I hate doing men's haircuts. And now
that it's the most that I do, including Michael Hobby.
Everybody just ind Michael Hobby's hair and he loves it.
Now he's wearing his hair down all the time, which
is great. Um. Karen Fairchild from a little big Downy
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she's a rock star. Yeah, she's the best she's the best.
She's so cool, the coolest. She seems like the cool
cool she's just her energy is like so like you
just chill out when you're around her and you just
want to listen to you know what she has to say.
That's great. Yeah, I want to be centered like that.
She is so centered. I don't know if maybe she's
just overthinking things in her head, but it doesn't come
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across that way at all. And every time she comes,
I'll open up on Sundays sometimes and when we call
it church and she'll just come and we'll have church
on Sundays and she sits here and I just do
our thing, the great way to unwind. Yes, um, Kelsey Ballerini.
He's the cutest, ever, happiest, happiest, happiest girl of all time.
How is she so happy all the time? I mean, look,
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I mean look at her life. I mean she's getting
married to the hottest, most amazing man on the play
Australian too. Let's not forget the accent. Her songs are
blowing out of the water. I mean she's nominated for
a Grammy. Yeah, she's got three number ones in a
row right off the bat, three number ones in a
row right off the bat. Yeah, she's just killing it.
She's killing it. I agree. Um, let's see you do
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with Florida George Line. Florida Georgia Line. That's so funny
because I do them like probably the most of Florida
George Line Thomas Rhett. I love that. So you just
gave Tyler from Florida George Line her new haircut. Yeah,
we wanted to go short, so that was kind of
was that like something you had to debate because he
was kind of known for his long hair? How do
you decide to chop it off? Tyler is so um,
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he's so like, he knows himself so well. He does,
he really does. Tyler. Tyler is the most sing husband. Man.
I've always said my whole life that he's gonna have too. Okay, whoever,
I get married too, because he's amazing. But he's so
he knows himself so well, so well, and he's so
er and confident that everybody was like, no, don't do it,
and he's like, effort. I love my haircut. Yeah it
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looks great. I love it. My wife loves it, and
you love it. Piani's wife. The thing I love about Florida,
George Line and Thomas rhet Is. They love their wives
so much and they have to me. I feel like
started this trending country music where it's pulled me married. Yeah.
I actually remember a story that Tyler told me, And
I don't know if he would even want this out there,
but I'm sure he doesn't care. Um he said, you know,
we're trying to make it like this is years ago
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that they were trying to make a change, that there
was going to be no more them featured with love
interest in any of their music videos. It was either
going to be their wives or was going to be
another couple really, and they were going to sing around
them and Thomas rerhad is the same way. Really, I
feel like it has made people love them more and
embrace their love stories. Oh my gosh, you just want it.
You don't mean they truly like that. Behind the scenes,
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they are just they respect each other and they were
growing their life together and it's really cool to watch.
I mean both sets of Florida George Lyon, Brian and
b K too. I mean Brian and be Cool too.
And that's cool because and all the wives have their
own thing, like Hayley he's married to Tyler has her blog,
The Vogue Trip, which is awesome. And then Brittany and
be Cool have tried Kelly. So like the wives have
their own and Laurens doing like all this amazing saving
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the world. Yeah she's there. They are going to save
the World's Thomas Wrett basically saves the world. Yeah, she
basically saves the world. Like all of my women do
something that they're like changing the world. It's amazing to
see what's going to happen in the next couple of years.
So Thomas Rhett tell me what his hair is like.
He's got great hairs, mohawk at one time. We were
going back to the mohawk right now actually for tour
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because he's headlining his first tour, which is just insanity.
He had the biggest year last year. Oh gosh, this
year just about to be which also I loved. I
Happy Man was about Lauren, like the wives. I love
that it's about story. And his new single called Star
of the Show is actually the first song that he
ever wrote about Lauren. I think he was like seventeen
years old. I mean, how great to be married to
these guys who just love their wives so much. That's
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why I'm not settling. This is why I'm still single. Everybody,
you have great example, I do. I have the best examples,
my father included. But um, Thomas Ratts hair. People don't
know this about Thomas Ratti is actually a little bit
of Middle Eastern, really like Zane. So we try to
like I mean, it's curly, and we try to go
with it and make him embrace it rather than straightening
it or making him do something that's not comfortable for him.
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And it really does work for him. But he definitely
needs a haircut about every ten days because he just
has so much hair. Oh my goodness. Yes. The thing
and I also love too with all these guys that
you do is guys sometimes just do like a basic haircut,
you know, regular guys will just don't even worry about
their hair. But really, got hair is such a statement
for guys, and it can be used as a statement. Um,
it really means the world. I think it's funny that
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I travel with the men way more than even the girls.
What do you do when you like style a guy?
I mean it's like a it's like a pre show
kind of thing. You know. Sometimes we'll have some drinks,
but you know, we just get it flow in to flow,
looking natural, messy but still very done, like they're not
afraid to be like, yes, I have a hair stylist
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that travels with me, and yes, I love what she does.
I love that. I love that. Okay, So basically you're
seeing everyone and cut your music, I mean pretty much,
and then the dry house the so you do the
cut and color of all these stars. But then you
have this whole living room area with tons of stylence.
How many stylensce do you have working for you right now?
I think thirteen. So there's all these stations and you
can come in here and be like, Okay, I want
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my hair to look like Bridget Bardo, or I want
my hair to have like a really cool braid, or
I want to do some sort of messy updo, and
pretty much the dry house can make it happen. You
could literally come every day of the week and get
something a little bit different. I mean you come once
a week and we come every Wednesday. You come every
Wednesday before you show because before National Insider me and
my host Lindsay. But you do some top not sometimes
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the messy beach waves or like I don't think people
realize how much you can do with your hair. I
don't think anyone realizes people just curl it. So what
we're doing is we're doing this huge, huge social media
kind of overhaul where we're gonna be doing tutorials and
we're gonna have all my clients come in the famous
ones and not famous ones that everyone's a star here.
We're gonna have everybody doing something different and you're really
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gonna see how short hair is affected by the dry house,
how long hair, how curly hair, different things that you
can do and not outrageous and out of this world,
like things that you can actually just go to dinner
with some girlfriends wearing on a Saturday night. I love that. Okay,
So tell me how you got into hair, and then
tell me about your vision because you have a very
powerful you believe in the universe, which I do, and
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that's kind of plays into how this whole dry house started. Well,
we always laugh because my business partner is um Cassidy Bentley,
which is Dirk's wife obviously, and so they've been family
for me from the day did they touch anything. I'm
just family for me from the day that you know,
I moved down here. Um, but it was really funny
years ago. Um. Kristen Cavaliery from looking to be too
now is like killing it with the shoes, cookbooks, hood everything.
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She got this giant bulldog and she named him Bentley,
and I was like, what a cool, little sophisticated name
for a dog. Yes, So my boyfriend at the time
gave me a dog for Christmas and I named Bentley.
And so every day I was like, Bentley, don't pee, Bentley,
don't go here, Bentley come. And I didn't realize that
I was putting it out there because look at him
in business with him in Bentley. So then changed my password, Um,
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and I've got. I got the next thing that I wanted.
I know, it changed it to know Bentley was always
the name. So Bentley was your password for our your email,
but you change it so no, and come log into
your stuff now, right everyone, alas email is Bentley her password? No?
And then I changed it to the dry House two
thousand and fifteen, and that was it. We opened two
thousand fifteen, and then I changed it to you kind
of feel like you drew Cassidy Bentley into your life
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one like it was yes, and she was doing it
at the same time, how so, and she because she
wanted to and she wanted to be part of something,
and she loves hair and she loves the beauty, and
so I think even her just thinking about it, we
just kind of like, well, they say, Roomy. One of
his favorite quotes is what you're speaking is seeking you.
So really like y'all were seeking each other, and me
and the Rye House we're seeking each other to which
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is funny. Was it scary to launch a business like this?
Oh my gosh, it was. I don't even remember that
year of my life because it was just crazy, a whirlwind.
I mean, there wasn't ever not a meeting, There wasn't
ever a time I wasn't worried. There wasn't an ever
a time that we couldn't find space. And me and
Cassidy would sit there and be like, well, we want
to do it. We have the means to do it,
you have the skill to do it. Why is it
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not happening? Right? And then Dirks and Cassidy one day
came and they saw this location and they called me
immediately and they were like, oh my goodness, we found
the most amazing location. It's in Green Hills, in the
heart of Nashville. How did you link up with Cassidy Um?
One of her really good friends named Monica Um came
in to get her hair blown out by me and
loved it so much. She wanted to give a very
pregnant Cassidy with Knox with their third give her like
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a little special treatment, And so she came in. She
didn't eve tell me who she was. I had no idea.
We just connected immediately, and I think I said to her, like, oh,
when you're done having that baby, you're gonna go downtown.
And she's like, well, me and my husband can't really go,
like he's kind of a little no. Like she still
would not me who like who it was, but I knew.
So that was a funny story. But did I tell
you about that? I changed my password to Adele. Oh
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tell that story. Okay, change my password to Adele tapently,
So now you're linked up with Cassidy. You started the
dryhouse and now I think I can do Anybody from
the world is my hoister. So now you're like, Okay,
I'm gonna put my passwords. Who I want to link
up with next? I look like it's got to be Adele.
Me and Idel have to be best friends, have to
be So I knew she was to We're already friends
in my mind, and I'm not even I'm a huge fan,
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but it's not even like that, Like I just think
we're supposed to know each other. Feel it, feel it.
So she was coming to Nashville for a show in October,
and so I changed my password and every day I
was Adele two thousand sixteen, Adele two thousand sixteen. So
one day, this British lady calls the dry house on
the phone and she says, um, hi, we would really
like to get it a hair done for a famous
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client of mine. She's a European artist in her name
is Adele, and she's really humbling down to earth and
you're like, holy mom. I was like, Mom, I made it, Adele,
it's coming into the dry I mean. Then we found
out it was her birthday. We got like this really
expensive bottle of wine and clean the whole salon. Every
one of my employees who didn't want to work work
that day. Of course, my mom was sitting in the
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breakroom like peeking out, and one thirty comes around and
two women walk in who combined are not Adele? And
I'm like, maybe they're scoping the place out. No, she
was a famous pigeon painter from Belgium. But I got
an Adele. Hey, you don't enough. You gotta be very
specific here, I know. And my friend goes, why didn't
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you ask for a last name? I was like, I
don't know that Adele has no last name. Does anyone
know her last name? And the woman was British, like
she clearly knew what she was doing. You actually did
you achieved your goal? Oh? It was the worst. I think.
I was so mad during that blowout. I was shaking,
and I feel so bad for this famous Adele artists
because she's amazing in her own right. Pigeons. Hey, a
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lot of people love pigeons. I mean no, her pictures
are amazing. By the way, I'm plugging her now somehow.
But like, and it wasn't Adele, And I was like, well,
who did I think? I was? What you did it
with Bidley? So I know, but Adele Adele Adele? So
next time, you've got to be more specific. Who are
you working on now? No, it's not a secret. Still
Adult two seventeen changed the date, Okay, great, and I
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think I put in something like my whole thing for
two thousand seventeen is no self doubt. Oh I love
that thing. I'm like, instead of getting I don't need
other people were doing great, the business is doing great.
Now I really have to work on myself for a minute. Okay,
so tell me how what you what's your mantra to
like not have self doubt? Well, Thomas Rhett walked in
one day and he just, I don't know, out of nowhere,
said what are you giving up for two thousand seventeen?
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I was like, do you even give any I mean
that's lent, you don't give it? And I, without even
a hesitation, was like self doubt. And he was like,
how are you going to do that? And I said,
just stop second guessing myself. I'm strong, I'm independent, I'm
a happy person. Nashville loves me. I love Nashville. When
I want to color my hair, I'm just gonna do it.
When I want to go somewhere, I'm just gonna go.
If I want a book, a vacation. Instead of doubt,
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I'm constantly doubting. What are you doubting it? Enough? Yeah?
Waiting for that shoot to drop is probably one of
the hardest things ever. I mean, I've built this all up,
but in two days it could be taken away. But
I couldn't really, I mean no, probably not, but do
you know what I mean, there's always that fear that
because it's your baby and you put so much into it,
but then what if, like the rug gets pulled out,
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so we want to open up a bunch more and
we want to do product line. I mean it's kind
of overwhelming totally. So you just have to have total confidence,
total confidence and go into everything like I rock, Like
I have a little moment with myself before I go
and do things. Yeah, it's like a little pep top. Yeah, totally,
a little pep talk that I get fired up. You
have to have you ever watched Tony Robbins. I'm not
your guru, I mean Tony Robbins, Like Tony Robbins is
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the best of the best, but he kind of does that.
You know. You have to like pep yourself up, like honestly,
like tell yourself I rock kind of like my artists do.
Because somebody said to me once, do you ever get
nervous doing all these famous musicians because their hair is
on TV everywhere. I said no, because I really am
the rock star. When they're sitting in my chair, they
saw me out and they brought a ticket to this show. Right, Yes,
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truly so egotistical, But you have to believe in what
you're doing, or else how could anyone else believe in it?
They wouldn't. You have to know your everybody. You have
to know you're great at what you're doing, or else
how could you get anyone else to buy into it?
You wouldn't. So how did all the celebrity clientele start
trickling in? So casually? Me and Cassidy had a moment
where we said we wanted everybody that was famous that
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came into the dry House to be organic. She didn't
want to send an email out to her friends and
say you have to check it out. Dirk's was not
going to necessarily post about it. I mean, he's got
he's posting about what he does. So it just trickled
word of mouth. Being a good person going out marketing
doing one hair and like really loving on it. I mean,
how did you get here? I got here because everyone
started coming to dry House. It was just the place
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is like, if you want great hair, you go to
the dry house, and then you just think award shows
like I saw Brittany, Brittany, we forgot about that. Jason
and Brittany come here up, I got Jason's hair. Yeah,
I mean hello, if I say it too many times,
I have a friend that on my twenty first birthday
gave me a signed picture of Jason all Dean for
my birthday in New Jersey because that's where you're from,
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New Jersey. Yes, and so I had it. And then
the minute he the first time you ever called me,
I ran home. Did you get a picture down and
just put it under her? Bad? I was like, I'm cool.
Now they know me. I don't need to picture an
autograph picks anymore because I got the real thing. So
I just can't say it too many times. It's awesome
in Jason just I mean, you know him personally too.
He's dry, sense of humor, and me and him just
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instantly connected. I mean, Brittany, his wife is the sweetest
and she could anyone be more beautiful. Like I hate
to say that in front of you because I think
you're just as beautiful, but no, no, I Brittany is flawless,
Like she walks out looking like she's ready for everyone.
In a bad mood. No, She's like, I'm in a
bad mood and I'm like no. The thing like Brittany too,
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is like I feel like she's very lighthearted, you know,
like sometimes like I tend to get the lover, I
get very heavy about stuff, she always can keep it
very lighthearted. Yeah, she's a total lover of things, I
mean everything. I mean she can't even stand when Jason
goes hunting. I mean he can't even call her on
the phone. She gets real upset emotional. Yeah, because she
just loves the animals, all of the animals so sweet,
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like St. Francis, that's the saint of the animals. She
is like to tell her that, start calling her Franny
Fanny Franny. Okay, So they just started trickling and organically,
and I think I started seeing you like a ward
just like the A. C m s. You're at their Vegas.
You bring some girls and how we do the dry
House does Vegas. It's the thing we do a party.
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Oh my gosh. We have the music going. Everyone comes in.
There's makeup artists in one side, hairdressers on the other.
Everyone's getting ready. Wardrobe stylists. I mean, it's a really cool,
just fun way because women are so nervous before. I
don't care what anyone says. I don't care how beautiful
you are. When you're about to walk that red carpet,
you have a little bit of self doubt. You have
to pump yourself. You want to look great, and you
want to be confident, and you want to be surrounded
by people who you trust to be like, okay, this
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is okay. Now you're perfect because then you believe it, right.
So that's what we do, and I guess so we
kind of have a pre before there's some champagne. I'm
not gonna lie, not a lot, gotta have champagne. But yeah,
everyone just has a really good time and the music
is going, and we have a dance party and it's fun.
You're gonna come this year. You gonna stop. Oh yeah,
thou show can't be missing awesome. So tell me how
you found your love for hair and makeup. No, you
don't do makeup. You have you do make up? You
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do do makeup. I do. That's like a hidden thing
that no one knows. So, like Lauren Thomas, Rhet's wife,
I will do both for her, which you did Lauren's
makeup for When Thomas Rhett played New Year's Eve, like
the huge show, what's that called Rocking Rocket New y'
Y Works Rocket New Year's Eve, it's the one where
Mariah Carry didn't hurt. Tracks didn't play right this year.
But Thomas Rhet's was perfect. Yeah, Thomas Rhet was perfect.
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His performance went off without a hitch, which is great.
I'm sure that's the most nerve racking show ed Burr
because you don't have any say like your sound doesn't
go right, or say like you can't hear in your
inner ears, like there's no chance to fix it, and
you're playing for like the largest audience ever. I mean,
I think that's Thomas Rehet's biggest fear in life. Was
he nervous? Um? It was great. The thing about Thomas
Rhett was also no one can no one can see
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this on on stage, but you're not playing to that.
All those people you're playing to like a little group.
And his way about her family flew into New York City,
so I love that. And you did Lauren's hair and makeup,
which she has a bombshell. You did that center cut
which looks so good. She has a bright red lips.
She looked like a model. I know, she's the best
she's ever looked. People were telling absolutely, well, she is
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so naturally gorgeous. And then to put like a little
like you know, juju on it that it was out
of this world. Everybody commented under her picture saying, you're
even pretty without makeup, and I'm like, but everybody wants
to feel pretty. Like it's New Year's Eve. People, right
now you want to dress the bright red lips on?
Why not put some eyelashes on? Makeup is so fun.
Guess what it comes off with water? I know, I
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don't know exactly. People just like to I think people
need to start taking chances. I agree with that. Yeah,
so how did you get How did you find your
love for hair and makeup? I don't know if I've
ever had a love for hair and makeup, if that
makes sense, I don't. I was a total tomboy and
you were hundred percent. I think I just didn't want
to go to college. Like it's not like I've had
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this from like when I was two, and so I
went to college for like three weeks and I was
But the thing is I probably did love it like
I can remember doing friends of mine for prom but
not like doing it because I was like, oh I
love this and I'm draw into this and I have
to do it. But I think I've always seen things
in color and hair. Color has always been a huge
thing for me. So you love coloring hair? Oh my gosh,
it's I see it in everything. I see it in
the walls, I see it in trees. I see it
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in leaves and bricks. It's crazy I pick up an inspiration.
It's almost like I have to shut my mind down
sometimes because you see so much color. Oh, I dream it,
so I'll wake up and write formulas down like some people,
some of your clients. Formulas have come to me in dreams.
What do you mean write formulas either or not just
standard formulas. No, I mean you're like a chemist. You
have to like mix different things to get the perfect color. Really.
Oh yeah, so just every person you color have a
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different formula and you dream it all up sometimes. Yeah,
Karen Fairchild's color was dreamed up. Really. Yeah. I was
just struggling with with going a little bit lighter and
making it shiny but still having her dark. And and
then I went to sleep one night I was thinking
about it, and I woke up in like three o'clock
in the morning and I was like, well, four seven five,
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and I was like, just wrote it down. Now. It
wasn't the whole formula, but it was like the portion
that I had been that was hang missing. Wow, isn't
that crazy? You literally dreamed it. I dreamed last week.
I dreamed um a new wave that I started doing,
which Mirana told me was it's her absolute favorite. Now
what is? Oh? Wow, I don't know how. It's just
like a technique and I'm so bad at it that
I look like I've never held a curling iron before.
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And I'm like, it's just because it's brand new there. Yeah,
and everybody seems to really love it. Wow. I love that.
I love how passionate you are about hair. I love it.
I just I mean, it's been seventeen years I've been
I've been doing hair. Okay, so you started star Yeah.
I started in New Jersey. I was a receptionist. Then
I was assisting forever and yeah, and then I like
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dropped out of college. I went to hair school, did
hair all through that and then been doing hair ever since.
And I get girls in here sometimes that I have
to sit down and say, are you sure this is
what you want to do? Is seventeen years later, and
every morning I wake up loving whatever I'm about to do. Do.
Don't you think people should fight to find the thing
they love? Fight, don't ever stop. I had to fight
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the fact that seventeen years ago it wasn't like the
norm to drop out of college and go to trade school.
Trade school was like, oh, you're stupid, you didn't make
it any totally totally, so it wasn't even an option
on the table for me. Now, like people are traveling
with their hair and makeup artists like Kardashians can't go
anywhere without their hair. People crucial and I think it's amazing,
and I'm so happy for the people like the Trailblazers
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who like them. Well, I don't know about that, but
the people, the people that I look up to that
like just we're like, we don't care. This is what
we're doing. It's an art, yep, it's just as much
an art as a painter, a hundred percent, just as
much as a singer. It is, like, and it's all
of it. It goes hand in hand. Like I think
that's Another thing that people don't quite understand is as
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an artist or a performer, to have great hair and
makeup is just as crucial is having great wardrobe. Is
this virtuals Honestly having great songs like it all is
a part of the package. People's style is so important
to their artistry. Yeah, and I think you can feel
more like yourself in certain hair in certain ways, like
even better than you feel as yourself. I'll watch, like
I'll give you a funny story, but like Casey Musgraves
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comes in, and when she comes in without her hair done,
you're you don't even necessarily you're like, oh, there's a
pretty burnett. The minute you bump that up, she's Casey Musgraves,
Do you know what I mean? She's walking out of
here with like her little like pepper and her step
and you can see it like it makes people's days
were daymakers for sure. I love that totally. Yeah. Okay,
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so how did you take how did you decide to
move to Nashville? Because you're in Jersey, How did you
decide to move to Nashville? My grandmother is born and
raised Nashville. Really yeah, and she got sick about or
I guess four years ago now, um, and she would
like start to get little bits of dementia and she
would look at me and she'd be like, you need
to go to Nashville. You need to go to Really
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she did serious. I don't know if she show me.
She's still a bit crazy, but only the best ones are.
And my dad was actually born and lived here until
he was about seven. Okay, So Nashville is always in
your heart, in your mind, my roots. Man. And I'll
tell you what. When I left and I came to Nashville,
I've never felt more at home in my life. Really,
why did you fell at home in Nashville. I don't
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know how to explain it. It's a little deep deep.
We can get so deep battle with a little bit
of anxiety, probably my whole life. I feel like that's normal.
I think it's very normal. I think it's not talked
about like it should be. And I just didn't like
what's about to have? What's about top? I moved to Nashville,
and I fell asleep the first night I woke up.
I've never had anxiety since that day, except I mean
little things like going out on the road or the business.
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But my personal anxiety has never been there before. I mean, after,
why do you think it disappeared? I think I wasn't
at home in New Jersey. It wasn't where I was
supposed to be. And I really think that Nashville was
calling me my whole life. Really, did you feel signs
of it, your whole life calling up? Just how just
in your heart you felt tugs? Yeah? I felt tugs
and things would draw me to I'm trying to think
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of specific things. My dad always listened to country music,
so I think that always and I'd be like, Dad,
come on, that's not cool. We're in New Jersey. Put
on some hip hop, let's do it. But he would
play it all the time. And I think that that
developed my love for country music. And you know, Alan Jackson,
we listened to. Garth Brooks was like huge in my
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family growing up. Um, And so when I moved down here,
it was like everything was right, and my grandmother loved
to hear that I had moved. I thought I was
gonna leave in a couple of years and go to
like South Beach, like Miami. Okay. So I was like,
I'm just gonna stop here and pay homage to my
grandma and I'll be on THEE and my grandmother loved
that I lived, that I moved here. She did. Oh
my gosh, She's never been more proud of me ever,
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heart and soul forever. I love. That was that crazy? Yes,
So tell me about the secret and how you believe
in the universe and all that, because we kind of
connect on that level. Um, yeah, we definitely connect on
that level. I think that I don't really know. I've
never seen in the secret, and um, it's just always
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happened to me. So that's a hard one to kind
of explain. But I'm a firm believer that. That's why
I have my passwords because you type it every day,
so unknowingly you're actually sending it up to the universe,
and the universe is picking up on it. It's like
when you're so scared to get sick and then you
get sick. It's like, right, you draw it to you.
You draw everything to you, for sure, love, friendships, uh, businesses.
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I believe. I know you believe in that too. What's
one of yours? I want to you one of your
stories real quick. I don't know. I think I I
used to be very like fearful about stuff and like
worried and I don't know. I took me a long
time to get clear on what I loved in my heart.
And then once I did that, I started having a
few things happened, Like I got the amazing race that
kind of fell into my life. I always wanted to travel, right,
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that is your story. I always want to travel. I
always want to be on TV. And then that happened.
It kind of like knocked out Two Birds with one
stone traveling and being on TV. And then I just
started realizing that, like, positivity is so much more effective
than be negative. And people don't realize that. People like
to complain so much when they think they should like
prepare for the worst, but I actually think you should
prepare for the best. I think that for me, it's
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instilled in you when I think when you're little that
you can't have everything, and but it's why not? Why
why can't you? Like I'm always like I used to say,
I'm a balanced scale. So I wouldn't trade my business
because I'm single. I've mentioned that fifteen times and I'm
not mad about it at all, because you're waiting for
the right guy, right, But I was like, I'm why
would I settle with a guy. But I can have
a perfect guy and a perfect business and the best friends,
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and you know, you can have it all. I know,
but I don't know what where in our childhood gets
instilled in us that you can't I don't either. It's
like when you say to a little girl, when you
say to a grown adult, oh my gosh, I love
your outfit, they're like, oh this, Oh, I got it.
It was only ten dollars. Instead of just saying thank you.
When you say a little girl that dress is beautiful.
As she goes, I know right, there's nothing they're so
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they know they look beautiful and they feel it. So
somewhere after that the fear is instilled, and it's like
and I just wish we could change that somehow. I agree. So,
but where did you get your like where did you
when did it click? Or have you always known just
to believe in the power of your dreams and like
positivity and a secret and all that. Um. I think
for me, karma is a huge, totally thing. And I
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feel like there was a year, probably when I was
twenty four or five, that I completely cleared all of
my bad karma. How do you clear all your bad
karma you It just comes back to you, and when
it's done, you have to say, like, this is happening
for a reason. So like you had a heavy year,
I had a heavy I was always necessary. I would
talk behind people's backs. Yeah, I know that. When I
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was young, I was I would like to make myself
feel it was all about my own insecurity totally. It
would be it's kind of fun to gossip and talk bad.
I did that when I was in my twenties two.
I completely try with all my heart not to do that.
And so um, I remember when I walked in on
a couple of my friends talking about me and it
didn't feel good. And I feel like that was my
karma and they became not my friends and I started
only being people that bring things to the table, right,
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you know, because I'm like, I built this table, I
clok the meal I'm serving at this table. When love
is no longer served, you need to be able to
get up and walk away from it. I love that.
So I just like clicked in your head that I
don't want to be a part of that anymore. I
just didn't want to ever have negative come back to
me for something that I've done, or that I've inflicted
on another human being or an animal or my employees
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or whatever. I love that and I keep getting it
like I'm still learning. We're not perfect and the way
to work in progress here. But I think um that
you and I are different. We're on like a different level.
I know the first time I met you, we like start,
we connected really quickly because we're we're going for the
same things and believe almost believe in magic like I
consider it magic. I believe in magic too, and I
like I love supporting other women and watching them see
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their dreams come true. You have another hand tasers. I'm like,
there is enough celebrity. Oh my gosh, one day I'm
not going to be able to do this, So be
the next one that takes over. I'll be onto something different.
I agree. And to wish ill on people only brings that,
Like you said, karma if you are putting some heavy stuff,
even if you're like secretly wishing someone, they're all secretly
wishing people failed. I hate it if you secretly wish
(32:08):
someone fails. So what I don't think people realize is
karma is so we're still putting it into the universe.
You're putting that energy out there, and for every action,
there's an equal and opposite reaction, and that includes your thoughts. Yeah,
and we have a bunch of haters in this town
because of what we're doing and where we're headed and
their own insecurities that they can't ride, you know, the train.
(32:28):
I always say to people, you're either on Ali's train
or you're in my way pick wisely, and it's not
meant to be rude, but I'm gonna do everything with
love and I'm not going to fail because of that, right,
And so, like I said, there's enough room for everybody
basically and enough growth. And so for me, I just
I was like, listen, you've been a shitty person. Why
don't you try being a good person. See what happens
(32:49):
and whoa, whoa life changing. It's totally life changing. And
I love what you said. This year is your year
of no self doubt. So combining no self doubt with
love and wishing everyone will but then just staying focus.
I mean, it's NOTNDS to me like you're gonna be
taking over Nashville. I want to. I want everyone Nashville
to have beautiful hair. I love that just changing it
(33:10):
just changing Nashville one hair at a time. Tell me
your dream for two thousand seventeen. Um. I think happiness,
like in like always just to be happy all the time,
to be happy all the time, like no, because you
have days. I mean like inside happiness where you know,
you know, I had some crappy things that happened lately
to me, and it normally would have led me down
(33:30):
a down a dark road. But I was like, nope,
you're going up, like don't look back, not going that
way kind of pinterest quote. I love that. So yeah,
So I think that's it. And I want my staff
to flourish too. I want them to come into their
own It's really hard, like when you're when you're like
me and you to have confidence and be motivated because
it's probably one percent of the population make up us,
(33:51):
which if everyone was like this, don't you think the
world to be such a better place? It would be
the most amazing place. But you could switch your mind. So, like,
my advice to everybody is always like be a good
friend to somebody, talk to them. Everyone's going through something
that they need to work out. And it was really
hard for me to change. I had to dedicate how
did you change? Oh, that's a great question. I don't.
(34:13):
I mean, I've prayed a lot. You wanted it, I
really really I wanted success and you knew you weren't
going to get it if you didn't change. How did
you know that? Um? I don't know. I'm really connected
so that if you didn't get positive and happy and
like focused on the good, that nothing good was ever
going to come my way. I mean I would have
momentary happiness, but it was never going to be like
(34:36):
that completed emotional I mean I had to peel relationships
along the way. I had to cut relationships along the way.
And so I think the heat cutting is real easy.
Do you think me? I've front with people and being
honest is crucial. Gosh, it's a crucial. But people can't
handle it. So many people like to drag around and
ignore and sweep out stuff under the rug. But I
(34:57):
I could have in the same mentality if I have
some weird energy as and I have to clear that energy,
and you don't have to do it rudely or nasty.
I would just sit the person down and say, hey,
can we talk for a minute, Like these three things
are they're not They're not working for me, and they're
probably gonna say get defensive right away, and but eventually
they will come and understand or or they will say,
this is the reason why I've been doing it and
(35:17):
everything is. It's just a healing process and it's a
really cool one to be part of. You feel light
and happy afterwards. I love mentoring people that have this
because I'm real good at that too. That's probably something
you didn't know mentoring. Yeah, I love mentoring like two
people that are going like being that middle person that
kind of you, Okay, don't get a little loud and
out of control this persons of time to talk like yeah,
(35:39):
I love that. Okay. So I'm going to wrap up
with leave your Light, so we kind of have this
whole thing has been inspirational. Obviously, you're the celebrity hair stylists.
You do all the most famous people's hair. What would
you from all your experiences with people you obviously you've
worked with like the top of the top, but you
(36:01):
also work with just everyone. What is inspiration that you
would like to leave people or how you have been
inspired Leave your Light. Oh, I love the segment. I
think that a lot of it just I just talked
about I think just being a really good human being
and not taking people that are famous. I treat my
famous people like their normal and my normal people like
they're famous, and that has literally works for me my
(36:23):
whole life. I love that because everybody matters, everyone's important,
every job, there's no job that's more important than anybody else's,
and money does not matter. My mom always told me this,
follow what you love and the money will come. I
couldn't agree more. I love that. I'm still waiting for it.
But I mean, you've got an empire here, Ali Ryant,
(36:47):
thank you too much. You care. I hope you've up
tearing from Alie Ryan and got some insight into what
it's like to be a celebrity hairstylist. Next week, y'all,
I have one of Ali's clients, Brittany Williams, who's married
(37:09):
to Jason Aldan, and they both are clients of Ali,
So I'm gonna hear all about Brittany's career path, which
is makeup. Y'all. She is so good at doing makeup,
she's so good at style. She talks about life on
the road with Jason. It is so great. She's also
a dear friend a thousand horses toward with Jason Aldeen
all last year, so I got to know her so well.
(37:31):
She is the sweetest thing that ever hit this earth,
and she's so talented and so beautiful. So y'all get excited.
Next week I have Brittany Williams.
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