KAILEY DICKERSON: Getting Real About Being a Touring Wife & Mom, Experiencing Miscarriage and Her Rock-Solid Faith

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
At it at Caryl Lone. She's a queen and talking,
so she's getting really not afraid to feel its episode
and so just let it flow. No one can really

(00:22):
quiet car Lone. It is kind of care Lone.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am so excited to have Kaylie Diggerson on Get
Real podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thank you for having me. This is my adorable friend.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
You're my adorable friend. You're my adorable wise like you are.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Just connected to the well of the living spring of life.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
We're just going straightforward.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
You are you are like you're that friend.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You radiate joy, you radiate truth, you radiate like I mean,
no one's one hundred percent clean and pure, but.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You are like a pure vessel.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
And every time I'm around you, I'm like, Oh, and
Russell too. You're married to Russell Dickerson.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
He's an angel.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
He is an angel, and y'all are joyful and fun and.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You choose all the right choices in life.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I don't know that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Do we try?

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean we try, we try to, but you're never
gonna What is it bat in a thousand, I can't
tell if that's a good or bad phrase. Actually, I
have this like reverse mixed metaphor in my life that
I kind of mess him up. Sometimes it's okay, Well
you've asto I think is a negative thing. I think.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I don't know baseball, Yeah, I mean neither obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I've just learned football because of Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's the reason.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
No, honestly that it's like you just you try your best.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, so do you you? Yeah, but I can
slump down.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I can get way emotional and emo and like lost
in my sadness of stuff, and like when you hit
rocky stuff, I feel like your faith is so rock
solid and so is Russell's, and my faith is so
rock solid. But like I like, I waiver a lot
in the fall, you know, and then I hit the
mat and I'm like, okay, God, I I knew I
needed to get here the whole time, but I had
to like totally emotionally break down before. I just feel

(02:04):
like you and Russell are so great at like always
knowing God's in control and always knowing that everything is
in your favor and always like I remember on our
first podcast episode, yours had not come out yet or
it was just coming out. Yeah, I mean his first
number one and now what number one. Are we on
honestly a five? He says, five number one, five.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Four, oh my god, or five something something when you
just forget so.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Amazing, something amazing. I don't know. So we're at the
point where we don't quite remember. I mean, it's so great.
So yours was just coming out.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
This is his song, his number one, his first single,
and I remember you telling me before that came out,
and Russell, because you've been with Russell forever.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, And y'all had this stream and you were producing
his videos and like you were so important in the
content creation before content creation was the thing. And then
actually and y'all would just like root yourself in prayer
and when you didn't know what to do, y'all would
march around your fireplace and have like your prayer march,
and you just pray to God and you just march
out your prayers.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Do you remember talking, Oh? Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
It was our first house that we ever bought, and
it was like there was this wall between our living
room and kitchen next to the fireplace because you were
that's where we recorded that episode, and we would we
called it our Jericho wall. We would just march around
it and march around and pray, and I don't know
that it's it's more so like I don't think you
have to pray like they did at.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Jericho, But what does that mean? Exactly?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
So Joshua he was told God told him to march
around the city and march and pray each single day,
and then on the final day they let the trumpet
blast and it was all these instructions and the walls
of Jericho fell. And so we always reference that as
like we're praying against we're praying four things and against
other things against you, you know, So you're just marching

(03:45):
and praying, marching and praying, and there's just something about
I don't know, just walking and praying for us if
we sit still, and I think this is kind of
a metaphor for life. If you sit still, it just
you get stagnant, right, But if you're marching and praying
and walking or now it's less like that because we
have kids in the house and we're just moving all
the time. We're moving all the time, but now we'll
do it on like walks outside. There's just something about

(04:05):
like a prayer during a walk that you don't feel rushed,
do you, guys?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Pray during your walks all the time. Yeah, there's a
long time. How does that go? You got Remy and
Rad and yeah, we just yeah, what happens? How does
the prayer get going? You just start praying.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
You're like, oh, do we pray for this thing and
that thing and for this person and what they're walking through?
And we speak life and life abundant and we you know,
just like try and pray life for people, for our calling,
for all those things. And it just kind of goes
back and forth. It's like a conversation kind of and
then eventually sometimes it doesn't like officially end, like you
just kind of forget and like you just get Oh,

(04:39):
I forgot to tell you, you know, I think God understands that.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
So do y'all do that every day?

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Not?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Not as much as I want to, for sure we try.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Do you think praying together is a huge reason why
your marriage is so successful?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I really do.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I saw some stat like recently it was like divorce
rates are no different whether you're in the church or
outside the church, but if you pray together, it's like
it's like a single digit percent that get divorced if
you pray together, which I don't know who did that statistic.
I don't know, but when I saw it, I was like,
you know what, I really believe that because there's just
something about being one and coming together as one in

(05:14):
the spiritual I just think it's effective. Yeah. It It
does say that one puts a thousand to flight in
two put ten thousand. So there's like a multiplication, just
a doubling. Yeah, a compound effect to your prayers when
you pray with someone else.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh yeah, I love that. So we try, you know,
we try to have you know, you.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Need a good bang for your buck, you know this,
Like let's make it as effetive as possible. None of
us have a ton of time. Someone told me once
They're like, you're an intercessor, and I was like, I
don't think I am.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So an intercessor is someone who like has the gift of.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Prayer, but you can speak prayer over people too, like
you were, you have like a healing.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I love to prayer.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I love to pray, But in my experience, so many
people who are intercestors are the people who like sit
at home in their closet. I don't mean to laugh,
but like they just like sit and pray and pray
and that's all they do and they don't go anywhere.
And I was like, well, that's just like that's not me.
Like I just pray, I believe what I pray, and
then I move on. And whoever I was talking to
at the time was like, that's an intercessor because you
know your prayers are going to be affected.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Like you have so much faith that like God hears you.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I was like, yeah, I do, I really do. And
have you seen God work miracles in you?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Well that's why, like you say, like I've watched you
deal with things and you're unwavering. I was like, well,
h you just learned that in the small hard things,
and then every time He shows up in your hard things,
you just know He's always going to show up. And
every time it's been right, it felt even the times
it felt delayed, even the times it felt like it

(06:42):
was never going anywhere, or he always showed up.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
What if you are open to sharing with this, Well,
what's a moment that was really hard for you? Were
I know you never thought God wasn't there because you
have such a strong faith, but where you're like God,
what is going on here? This is really really taking
me to my knees and then how did he show
up for you?

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I think twenty twenty was one of those years. I
think it was for all of us, like, especially in
our lives. Our livelihood is people and we are non
essential essentially is what we were told. But that's not true.
Obviously music people are essential, but we were not at
the time. And what that kind of does to your

(07:25):
heart and your mind, especially your my husband's mind, and
watching our band and crew, like telling these guys that
they don't matter basically is really it was really hard
to watch.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
What do you mean telling him they don't matter?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Like you weren't allowed to leave the house unless you
were an essential oh like this if you were a
medical and if you were right, there were essential people
and any of us who were told to stay home
were basically told we weren't essential, you know. And I
watched that pan out in a lot of people's lives.
And what's interesting in how we made it through, honestly
is I listened to a podcast with Lauren Dagele. She

(08:00):
is an angel, adore her, Adore her, and she was
on any Down's podcast And if you're on that network.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yes, coffee with Kaylee and eighty.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Hit a million downloads. Coffee with Kaylee. Everyone check it out. Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
It was long before I podcasted all of that, and
it was twenty nineteen. I was on a Southwest flight
before we had kids all this stuff, and I heard
her say that she felt the Lord tell her to
let the land rest on her seventh year, let the land.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's like rest this.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Old biblical principle from the Old Testament that they would
like till the land farm, do all this and on
the eighth year, let the land or on the seventh year,
let the land rest. And I was like, wow, I
really believe in that. I really believe in that. And
I'm like, whenever you want to do that with us, God,
like you just let us know obviously. And I did
the math and I was like, oh, this would be
next year from the time like yours really hit. I

(08:52):
was like, what is our seventh year. I was like, oh,
that'd be next year.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
We just are you talking about from your journey starting?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, of like this pursuing music with all of your passion.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, so let the land rest means take a break.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
She quit everything.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Really, She moved back home didn't write, didn't do shows.
She was like, I'm gonna let it rest, and she
came back and that's when she wrote like look Up
Child and all these massive songs that like went into
pop and all that, and I remember just thinking, Wow,
I really I believe in this, and so I was like,
whenever you want to do that, it's cool as me.

(09:28):
And fast forward about four months and everything starts to
shut down and it all starts to rest. Yeah, and
I was like resting how we thought it would excuse me?
Yes exactly, But there was something about because I had
experienced that, I really had this piece of this is
terrifying where the only money we have we're sending to

(09:49):
our band and grew to feed them. I don't know what.
Like we needed to renovate the outside of our house,
like we still do. The windows are like all fogged
up the roof like squirrels can get it. Like it's
like we needed to do this as soon as we
moved in, and we're like, okay, we'll move in and
then we'll do it.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well, then twenty twenty happened and so.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Our roof looked like our band eating and our windows
are like you know, we tried to just take care
of our people as best we could, and but I
still just had this crazy peace when it should have
taken us out, you know, it should have taken all
of us out. It was really anxiety written that year
because you didn't know when it was going to end,

(10:28):
if it was.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Going to end right, and you didn't have Rammington yet
he was pregnant.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I was pregnant with Remington. I found out I was
pregnant January first, twenty twenty. Wow, that's a big year,
big year. And I really I was like, God, what's
my word for this year?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
And he was like settled and I was settled, and
that it was chaotic year in the world.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Settled and I was like, oh, oh, settled.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I was like, oh, well, we just moved into this house, like,
so we're settling in, not like not like you're settling,
you know, but settling in. And I was like And
then I found out that day I was pregnant, and
I was like, Okay, I guess we're settling like we're
having a kid. And and then probably in like July,
it occurred to me again that that was the word.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I was like, wow, you were not kidding, Like
we are settled, like we have gone nowhere. That is crazy?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Does it? How do you get your word?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Does God speak it to you?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah? Kind of.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I just it's like it's like this, like how do
you explain it?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
A knowing that you didn't think.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
A knowing that you didn't think. Yeah, it's just like
in your.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like your heart feels it and you're like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
The word popped into my mind and I was like, well,
I didn't try and think of that, and that felt
it felt so right, and it felt and it felt right. Yeah,
and there's times something pops in my head and I'm like, no,
you thought that there's a difference, but yeah. And then
when I was Remy's name was this whole thing. A
friend had a dream about it. And then I looked
what his name meant, and it meant planted by the river.

(11:53):
And I loved that because someone talks about you'll be
planted by the river and in seasons of drought, you
will still bear fruit, and and he was still fruit
in a season of drought. And then another friend was like,
do you know what else his name means? I was
like no, and she said the part two to his
name means settlement. And I was like, what, okay, Well,

(12:14):
my child's name is Remington. Like it felt like if
I didn't name him that I was being disobedient.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yes, I was like, okay, Remington, it is well that
took that off the table.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, sure did.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And he's an angel.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
He's yes, he's in the three nature stage today.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I had.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
I had like a little iPod that I bought forever
ago when he was little that was music for him
so that I could listen or be on the phone
in the car. And I would just like put the
iPod near him so he could hear his wheels on
the bus, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
And I didn't have to and I kind of forgot
about it. It's like this old old iPad or iPod.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
He just found it. He's like, Mommy, it's my phone.
I need to text.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Nana and see if she's okay.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
And I was like, oh, I was like no, we're
taking the phone away, and then he was like throwing
a fit. I was like no, no, no, no, no,
We're too little to be like doing the phone day ants,
so that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
No, the phone. The kids know about the phone's so young.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, it went away. It's like, I don't know where
it went. I think maybe Santa took it home with him.
I don't know, it went back back in the bag.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh my gosh. I love that Remington and Sunny shared
the same birthday.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
It's adorable.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's adorable. And then, okay, so another date that I do. Okay,
this is another date I want to talk to you
about that is a little potentially sad.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
But it's is it April?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's April second. Yea, that's a that's a big day
for you.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yes, April April fourth, April fourth, April fourth.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And I know these feelings well yea, but you are
so brave to share about this. And I feel like
I want to talk about the joys of motherhood, but
also in the joys of motherhood comes sometimes in the
motherhod journey comes from really sad.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, for real hearts. Yeah, yeah, And you know this
very well. And I just it's something I wish no
one knew about. Like it's just one of those things
you'd want to take away from anyone who's ever been
through it. And yeah, so Remy's due date was nine
to nine, and then my second baby's due date was

(14:04):
four to four and we lost that baby around nine weeks.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
But then now my rainbow baby, his due date was
ten ten.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Stop. It isn't that cute.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
They're all little duplicates. Yeah, it was brutal. I mean,
it was a really hard season for us. Everything in
his career that was tough was compounding and compiling and
getting us to a point that we needed to make changes.
And this happened before that, a significant amount of time

(14:37):
before it, but.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It was workings of his career.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, and there were This was one of the
very first things that we were like, oh, something's not right,
and just how like the lack of support we felt
in this season. And uh, basically I went to the
doctor and I had a chemical pregnancy, my first pregnancy
so before range. Yeah. So if you don't know what
that is, it's essentially like the sperm and egg meat

(15:03):
science lessant, and so it triggers your hormones but nothing implants,
and so like you get a positive test, but then
a few days later you get a flaid. Yeah, so
but you have your hopes up already. So when I
went in they did an ultrasound, They're like, there's nothing here.
So my very first ultrasound experience was really sad, and

(15:24):
that's something I have to combat constantly. Honestly, like every pregnancy,
I've had to just like work up the nerve that
I'm like, everything's gonna be fine, and I speak life
and I anytime I imagine something bad, I really try to
intentionally replace the image in my mind with something good
or what is supposed to happen. And that's been really

(15:44):
helpful for me and motherhood as a whole. So yeah,
I went in Remington obviously, was healthy, big, gigantic oy yes,
and then got pregnant. Went in and they were like,
it's you're supposed to be more like eight weeks, but
you're measuring more like six and the heartbeats really really faint,

(16:07):
and I was like, I did the math and I
was I was like, there's no way that this is
six weeks. Because I took a pregnancy test at six
weeks in a day, so I knew something was wrong.
And that day we got on a flight flew to
South Dakota to film like a music video kind of thing,
and I was just stressed. Russ was like, everything's gonna

(16:27):
be fine. Every Like mister he has the actual gift
of faith, Like he just believes everything's gonna be awesome
all the time.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
How I know, it is unbelievable truly to watch. I mean,
what a joy to be married.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, it really feel like I'm not married to him,
but I feel like it's a joy to be married
his spirit and you're you a hundred matching joyful spirit.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Well, I think I don't know, you become one with someone, right,
So like I feel like I've gotten a little more
add also since we've been married, Like you gotta get
to you get their good and they're.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Difficult, you know.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
But yeah, I flew and I was scared and I
knew something was wrong, and he he was like, everything's
gonna be fine, everything's tona be fine. I was like, no,
it's not. And we got home. They needed to wait
a whole week to see if there'd be growth longest
week maybe of my life. And then I went in
and and my tech was like, I'm so sorry, there's
no heartbeat, and I was like okay, okay, and Russ

(17:19):
is that's when he lost it because oh yeah, bald,
like in the in the room, I remember she left
and we stood there and just like cried and but
I like knew. So he was so blindsided because he
was like, oh, he had just blinded all the faith,
all the faith in the world.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, but you already felt it within.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah. And so when we went to my doctor afterwards,
she she came in and I could tell she'd been crying,
and like, your doctor, Yes, isn't not so sweet? She's
so wonderful. Oh, she's amazing. She's the reason I can
birth giant babies. I swear.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Everyone's like, no, it's you.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I was like, no, I promise you. My doctor is.
She's like a superhero.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Anyway, So we I looked at her and I was like,
we're supposed to bus out tonight. What do we do?
And and she was like, if you weren't on your
own bus, I would tell you you have to stay home.
But because to me, being away from him sounded so
much worse than doing it alone.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I did you have the miscarriage on the bus? Thank God?

Speaker 4 (18:15):
My body was like, we're not doing this. My body
waited till we got home.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
But I did it naturally. Your released naturally, and I
was prepared.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
But I also had no idea what was coming. Now.
I'm like, thank God, that didn't happen on the bus,
Like I almost at one point, I was I remember
in our bathroom and I for whatever reason, Russell got
up and walked into the other into the bathroom and
was like babe, and I like came to like I
almost passed out. I was in like so much pain,

(18:43):
and you know, I was just like in and out
of that bathroom and he, for whatever reason that moment
got up. I'm like, I definitely would have passed out
if he hadn't like said something.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah. It was just horrible.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
And then right after that we went tour in Europe
and that year he did one hundred and thirty something shows,
and it was just the cherry on top of just
like the way too freaking much cake. Like it was like,
this is impossible for anyone, and then to go through
this in the midst of it, it.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Would just have unbearable jump back on to your ride
of life that's moving in a million miles a minute.
And I feel like that's the thing with miscarriage is
I've actually had a miscarriage. Everyone you can have one.
I've done a DNC, I've passed one naturally, I've done
the pill. I've had a chemical pregnancy, and I'm like,
every single one is terrible, but it's like the one
actually that.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I passed one of the BMI Awards.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
I remember that story and I was I think, I
think about it actually like a good amount.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Yes, I think, I'm like, how did she do this?
Like every time I go to the bm MY Awards.
First of all, I think, no, but no one should
have to do that. And then in our world to
like it's the quintessential career of like put on a
happy face on this red carpet and pretend like everything
is fine, and meanwhile you were literally probably on a

(20:05):
red carpet seconds before that and then literally.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Having a miscarriage in the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yes, And the sad part, I'm also sad I didn't
know like at the time, because I would have been there.
I would have been like, I he hit all this,
let me help you.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
But I think the thing is when you're in this,
and this is why, like I'm so glad to talk
about this with you, and.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I don't want to be like a SOB story like
let me talk about my miscarrious all the time, because
it's like but it's like, this is a huge thing.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Women go through and it's like you go through it
and then all of a sudden you just get back
on your life because it is such a even though
your husband is so supportive and they're so with you,
it's your body. You're doing it, you're passing it, and
then it's over and then life goes on and it's
just like the silent thing that you kind.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Of do alone, you know, and it's painful, it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Hurts, and like I just remember like literally looking at
it and wrapping it up, saying a prayer, and then
flushing it down the toilet.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh my, oh my god, that's so sad.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, it's so traumatizing. It's really traumatizing it and if
anyone listening has been through that, like I'm just so sorry,
Like I really wish this is one of the things.
This in childhood cancer. I'm like, these two things just
like have to go, like these are these are not
the hand of God on the earth?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
These are do you think they are? Because how do you?
How are you so sure? Well?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Because God is life and life abundant, like we were
never even supposed to die, you know, like it was
supposed to be everything that is good and kind and
wonderful in the world is God and everything that is death,
Like it says the enemy came to steal, kill, and destroy,
and that that's what those things are. They're stealing life,
killing life, destroying life. And I know that's not God

(21:39):
and it is a reality of life, but it doesn't
mean going through that, I wasn't like, hello, where are you?
Because he can also heal, he can do all these
things that when you don't see it happen, like my
one of my very best friend's father passed away from COVID.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Actually you can remember all that going through.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
This and you like raised you, yeah, like spiritually for sure.
And if there was anyone I was gonna believe was
just gonna sit up in that bed and like come
back to life, it was him, you know. And he didn't.
And I'll never be able to explain that. And it's
not fair. And this was the second parent she lost.
It's just not fair. And miscarriage is not fair. And

(22:22):
every time you've walked through it, it has shattered my
freaking heart. I think we actually had one. I think
ours were similar times. It was like September of it
was labor day is when I actually lost the baby.
Of twenty twenty three. Last year, huh no, no, sorry,
I had a baby then twenty twenty two. Yeah, I labor.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Didn't totally remember all of mine, honestly, but I do remember.
I had a miscarriage at Sunny's birthday party, which was
cod September September tenth, so it was around the thame. Yeah,
it was because we all like had a cut it
had her birthday party on Labor Day.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yep, yep, yeah, yeah, so we had I guess the
same we were or a year apart.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right around the same time.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, because we had gotten pregnant around the same time,
I think, or you had gotten pregnant or I don't know,
it was.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Twined, yes, yeah, but we just I remember a bunch
of us got together, a bunch of girls, and we're
talking about it. In almost half that room had had
one within six months of each other.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
It's crazy howe will have miscarriages.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
It was, And I'm just so proud of you, Like
you're one of my favorite people, truly, just the way
that's to say, because I feel.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Like I'm a hot messing spress. People like me. I'm
so young kids, so I like you so much.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
I thank you so like you're just I just kind
of see like the little Mormaid. That was another Mermaid
reference of today, which y'all missed the earlier one, but
here's our second one. And it's almost like you're like
on the rock and like you let the waves just
hit you and you're like, I'm going to sing my
way through this. It's like I am going to keep going.
You're not knocking me off this freaking road.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Do you feel that way all the time. I'm like,
it's a whole new back, But.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Jeez, that was a big wave. Okay, you're so pretty
doing it, you know, just like seriously though, like I
feel like.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
You, God really do.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
I've watched you walk impossible things. I really have, well
we all have, but I'm just talking about you right now,
and you have done it with such like grace and honesty.
And I think that's why people love this podcast as
they should, like you're just so real, like in every
in every way it is named correctly, like get real,

(24:35):
like this is the realist and you are the realist
and you don't sugarcoat things and you don't pretend everything's
awesome when it's not. And I love that about you.
Thank like you've just been you've been through it like
we Yes, everybody has, but it's.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Just mine really hit me, Like I had a pretty
good I mean I have like looking back and now
they've done so much therapy on myself.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I had a pretty great look. And we're doing a
coffee with Kaylee too. We're combining coffee with Kaylee and
get real. So this if y'all haven't heard Kayley's podcast,
Coffee with Kaylee. She's got her coffee here and she's.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So I feel like we're doing a little combo meal
here because now here I'm about to tell you about
my life.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Do as I sit back, I'm like, yes, I'll strink
my coffee, tell coffee.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I feel like growing up in my childhood, I
had a really good family and like you know, great
upbringing and normal childhood stuff, but nothing super t traumatic,
as we both love Porters called Beth everort Porters call
it's a big tea little tea. I had a lot
of little tea trauma, never like big ta trauma growing up.
I feel like my big ta trauma hit me in

(25:35):
my like thirties, Like I was pretty good and solid.
I mean, actually I was an emotional wreck, but like, aren't.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
We all yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
But I yeah, I feel like it really like these
past few years has just been like God, if we're
doing that little Mermaid representation, it has just been wave
after wave after wave, and finally I'm like, but it's like,
how I my intensity gets a hold of me when
I'm in those situations like how do you not let
And You've been a great guide for me the way
that you talk and like handle things when especially with
like friends and like, because we're in those situation now

(26:06):
where we're married, we have kids, we have friends, all
these people are doing big things in their lives.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Not all of our friends and family operates the way
we think they should.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Like what do you how do you handle your big,
intense feelings when they're when things aren't going the way
you think they should go, or morally people aren't doing
what they should do, or my intensity can get a
hold of me and I'm having too I'm having growing
pains right now, or I'm having to learn how to
hold my tongue. Yeah, I not interject my big intensity
on everything.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Mine isn't health.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
It's not healthy.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I'll tell you that, it's it's as an Enneagram three.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I retreat.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I become reclusive. So that's why you've never seen me
lose it because I go and hide.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well that's better.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
So yeah, yeah, I do feel like in that space
because I get quiet.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
So you're an achiever.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
And am I achieving? Just looks like Russell Dickerson's career,
you know, like I have a hard time, but I
have a really hard to wing and so I helpful. Yeah,
so I would rather because I'm so afraid of failure.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
You are, oh terrified, You're afraid of failure.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh yeah, so I'm like, how do I help someone
else succeed? So like I can't fail really, So Russell's
been perfect. It's perfect because.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
She's really perfect.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I get to help as much as I want.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I get to like, you've created a lot of his
music videos for a lot of people listening. You did
Blue Tacoma, the whole music video yours the first one
that launched him, when he's walking in the rain.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
That was like your kind of idea, I feel like
early Yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Was because I had done other music videos, which is
so funny. My my I have five older brothers. My
fourth brother is a director, and I like very successful
and very helpful when you're trying to learn how to
do this kind of stuff. And so he brought me in.
The very first music video I ever shot officially was
a Nora Jones music video. Yeah. I was like, bro,

(27:49):
I have never done this, but I was just a
photographer at that point, and he was like, if you
can take it's the same thing. I can teach you
how to do the film portion if you have an
eye you and I and I was like okay, and
he flew me into your.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are you really taking pictures of Nora?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Was she?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Like I filmed? Yeah good and you.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Hurt her singing live and stuff. Yes.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I mean I was like, oh, what's happening? Did you
freak out more Joneses? I was twenty one.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I was twenty one, and I yeah, Like he just
gave me such an incredible opportunity, like so kind, But
what is.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
That like when you walk in you've never done anything
like this before, you're twenty one and now you're with
nor super.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Star three thing?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Because I my em I was like, I can do it.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I can't fail.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I can do it, and I won't fail. I will
find a way to not fail.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
You're going to find a way to not be yes,
I will, I will do whatever it takes.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
And so that started.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
And then when Russell had been turned down by every label,
every radio program, every everything, but he had yours. I
was like, wait, you knew yours?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Oh? Yeah, we knew?

Speaker 3 (28:46):
And it took four years from when he wrote it
till it went number one.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
How did y'all hang on to the faith for four years?
Especially when you got nose from everyone?

Speaker 4 (28:55):
We just knew, I mean people had part of our stories,
strangers praying for us.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Really, yes, it's crazy these like.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I don't I call Russ the prophecy Steeler.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It's like people just walk up to him and they're like,
I God told me something to tell you. And it's
always been the same thing. It's always been just consistent
that you're like, wow.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
What do they tell him?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Just that he is called to do this. He's gonna
be in front of millions of people that he's Danielle's dad,
the one who passed away. He Dandiel your friend, yeah,
my best friend. Yeah, I heard the one who passed away.
He he first met him at a friend at like
your graduation party. He didn't even know he's sang music.
But this man, I'm telling you saw the craziest god
stories I've ever ever heard, like crazy healings, people coming

(29:38):
back to life.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like away crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
And he walked up to Russell and he was like, boy,
you got a Garth Brooks annoying on your life.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I was like what what?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
And he was like, yeah, you're gonna be He's like,
you're gonna be in front of millions of I don't
know what you do, but you're going to be in
front of millions of people.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You feel it?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, And he's like you're gonna And he looked at
me and he's like, you're called to this friend group.
And so that's when I knew we were getting married
because I was like, this is my friend group. So
if you're called it, this friend group is with me.
Because if we're not together, got to you gotta go.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
But you always want to marry Wrressell.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
No, we are friends for like two years. I had
no idea that I even liked.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Him, and he was kind of well, I don't know
if emo's the word back then, but wasn't he a
little more like hunk yes or like got the straight yes.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yes, Yes, here's a scene kid, A little more scene kid. Yeah,
scene scene seeing kids scene. He screamed in a metal
band at one point.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
But he grew up in like Cornfield Town, Tennessee, and
then moved to Nashville when he was ten. And so
when he moved to Nashville is when he like he
grew up on like country country, and he grew up country,
and then moving to Nashville, interestingly enough, was when it
was like the big city where he was exposed to
like Blink one eighty two and which everyone thinks country music,
but that's where he learned like pop music was in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
He grew up country, like in the middle of real country,
and he's like, oh, I got it. Now, there's a
whole new world right here. But then when he started.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Writing songs, country came out because it was deep rooted enough.
There's some scene kid in there. You can hear it
every s e C. Scene scene scene, like what was
that like the national scene scene?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I don't know. I don't I don't honestly, I don't know.
That's a Russell question.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I don't know. But yeah, so he then we would
I was a missions photographer fresh out of college and
mission trips.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Mission trips we went to like the UK, we went
to Africa, we went to.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Was that life changing for you?

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
With all the kids, different kids.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Sometimes it was like leading worship for youth groups. It
was all different kinds of things. There was one that
was in Israel and it was all these like Bible
teachers and Russell and our friends were leading worship for
the Universal Bible teachers.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, he would go on a lot of them because
they were friends.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Worship based we were dating by then.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
But then people would the same thing. The guy in
the front of the church was like preaching a whole
sermon and then was like you in the middle, yes,
the sermon. It was like stand up and it was
Russell stop dead serious, and he was like you are
called to the masses.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And he was like you are going to be on
stage frond a millions of people.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Again, yes, same thing, and he was like you're on
the fast track, which that was a lot slower than
we thought.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
It was going to be.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
But fast, Okay, great, right, awesome, let's go. But like
all these things that gave us enough hope really, And
then after that service, a little old man prayed for
me and started telling me things like from my past.
He was like, did this, this and this happen. I
was like, yes, yes, and yes. And he was like
God wants to like he doesn't want to just put
band aids on old wounds. He wants to make you

(32:27):
brand new. And I was like, okay, I received that.
And so he prayed for me and he was like
this marriage, He's like, this man you're with, this marriage
is going to show the world the father's love for
his people, and this marriage is going to heal marriages.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I was like, wait, I kind of pause for
a second, because I feel that with y All's marriage,
I do feel that, like that's so that crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
That was in like twenty ten. Maybe it was a
long time ago. We've been married ten years. We were dating.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
We'd been dating maybe a year and a half at
the time. I don't know, so it was a while ago.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Who made the move first?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Him?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Are you because you were friends?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, it was like the Thompson Square, Thompson Station, Tomas
you goun They.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Just it's that song. Did you hear that one go in?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Uh that is weird because it is weird. I was
literally always mess up their name Thompson Square. I was
walking to the parking garage to let you in, and
that song Are You Gonna Kiss Me or Not? Came
on and I thought to myself, Man, I haven't heard
this song in a long time. Yeah, and it was
singing this up okay, But.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
It was before that song even came out. And we
were at a graduation party on the side of this
graduation party, and both had a little bit of liquid courage,
and we were sitting there and I was giving him
every sign ever because you were feeling it.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I was like, I just like him?

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Why do I like him around all the time? Like
I left one party with a friend and I was like,
we have to go get Russell from this other party
and bring him over here and need his I just
like need him here. Yeah, And I like, I still
was oblivious truly at this point, you just knew you
loved being around I loved being around him and I
So we were at this graduation party and I looked
at him and I was like, so, are you gonna
kiss me or not? It's I'm square, there's your, there's your,

(34:01):
there's your. Like you're welcome. It's a massive hit and
he looked at me. Oh my gosh, this is not
a favorable Russell Dickerson.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Sorry, I cannot wait. Get well. He goes, well, I've
never made the first move.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah, I know, gross, right, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Women flopped you. They just threw themselves at you. Well
this question, yeah, I was like, not this one.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
He said, I've never met never made the first move,
and I was like, well then this is never going
to happen. And then he grabbed me and kissed me
so that it turned out very cute, but it was
like annoying at first.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I was like, you if you don't want to kiss
you honestly?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Oh yeah, So he made the first move.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
But then we almost broke up because he uh wasn't
saying I love you because you know, didn't ever make
the first move. Like everyone always initiated and like pursued him.
Is he like older siblings or older sister or something
younger sister.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
He's the oldest.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
He's the oldest.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Was he taking Did a mom take a lot of
care of him? Let's break this down road? Never? No,
I mean yes, his mom was wonderful, but I he
just never felt like he needed to make it hurt. No, No,
he was just not in a rush.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
He also was like, I'm not getting married till I'm thirty,
did it da? I was like, well, you let me
know who she is because it ain't gonna be me
and old real we started dating, I was twenty one, Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You're like, I'm gonna wait nine years dude, No, dude no,
and like we were living together all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
I was like, listen, I'm not called to be a nun.
So you figure out who she is because I'm not
waiting till thirty. That's not happening. And so we eventually,
like after all these missions trips. People kept telling him,
like we walked into a food court and this guy,
this guy's so bizarre. The guy's serving food in the
food court, like had like stepped out.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
We were in Israel.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
He said, you two, you're gonna come back married with children,
and we're like what. And Russ was like, what is
going on?

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Because everyone just kept saying stuff like that, And so
eventually he got the message.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
It was couldn't have been louder or clearer, but he
eventually got there.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
And I knew. I knew, and I put pressure on
them at one point because we broke up because he
wasn't saying I love you. Oh nope, nope. I almost
broke up with him, and then I had this crazy
god experience that I didn't break up with him. So
when he broke up with me, like a month later,
can you tell us the experience? Yeah, this is it's
still so bizarre. I've told it on lots of podcasts,
but it's like I was laying in my bed. I

(36:19):
left his house because his roommate had told his girlfriend
of like two weeks he loved her, and I was like,
get me out of here. And we're not together for
like ten months. Yeah, like come so we've been friends
for two years too.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
So no, you love me? Yes, dude.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I was like, I know you love me.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I know you well enough.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
I know you love me, but you don't have the
guts to say it, and that's unattractive to me. And
I was like, if you can't say this, like what
hard things are you going to be able to do
in life?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Okay, let's break this down like men, thank you. And
then again, I don't know why. I'm just so I'm
in church.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Here, okay, ll I uh yeah, So I left and
I was like, I have to get out of here
before I burst into tears.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Because I'm a three and I can't let you see
my weakness. And I told you this in the car
on the phone the other day.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
This Yes, I was like, I will not show weakness.
I will not cry in front of you. I need
to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
And I drove home.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I was like, please don't let my roommates bewake. I
don't want to talk about my feelings because I have
all brothers, so I would just like, go in my room,
deal with my feelings.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Wake up the next morning, brand new day, brandly.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, you're good at just like I'm moving forward. I
don't know if it's great.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Sometimes it's squashed and buried and shows itself in resentment,
you know. But I got home, got in my bed, sobbing,
and I was like, I can't do this. I felt
like I had all these little breadcrumbs along the way
of like this is it, like this is the way
walk in it and I was like, okay, it's rustle,
I guess. And my prayer was always God, if this
isn't your best for me, I don't want it, Just

(37:38):
take it. Take whoever it is I was my prayer
every guy I dated before him.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Great prayer.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
It worked, isn't your prayer? I effective prayer? And so
when we were dating, I was like, God, I'm serious,
like I really love him, but I just want your
best for me. If it's better than this, I cannot
fathom what that looks like, but sure, I'm open. And
I got in my bed and I was bawling, bawling, crying,
and I was like, if you want me to be
with him, you're gonna have to fill me with joy

(38:03):
right now. I don't know why I prayed that. I
had never heard.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Anyone pray that.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
I like, it's one of those things like I didn't
think it, you know, but I knew it exactly like
the word thing from earlier.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
And my whole body set on fire, like kind of.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
The feeling like when your foot falls asleep. And my
hands were on top of the covers and this weight
just like fell on me. I had so much peace
and I just start hysterically laughing.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Stop. I was like, I were sobbing illusional. Yeah, I
had no drinks involved, like nothing I was.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I was like, this is insane. I am absolutely actually
I have lost my mind yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I literally was like, this is it.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I lost it. I've lost it. And but in that moment,
I was just like, God, please don't go Okay. I
was like and I couldn't have cared less about Russell
honestly at that point, because because you're like, I just
experienced a full Yes, I experienced like this presence of
God I'd never experienced in my life, Like he can't.
God came into your body that, yeah, just like just
like rested on me or something like I thought your.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
First like tangible physics, cool interaction with God.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
No, I had, like I started believing God when I
was in I grew up in a Christian house, but
first time I was like, oh yeah, I believe this
and it's for me. I was in like middle school.
So I definitely saw God throughout my life, but a
real relationship was like holy smokes, what's happening. So I
fell asleep like that and I woke up and I
was like, Okay, I guess I won't break up with him.

(39:22):
And then a month later he broke up with me.
Why so he looked at me, he was like, You're
not the one.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Like I just got the laughter and joy of God
put on me confirming that you are and now you're
breaking up with me, and I just looked at him.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I was like, you're wrong, but go do whatever you
have to do.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
He had never like kissed a girl after a show
or like done.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
He had to just like soew his he did that
one time, by the way, and he was like this
is horrible and like immediately it was over.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
But he just had never gotten to be a little wild.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
He's a monogamous, like he just he always tried not
to be, but he is like serial monogamous. Even if
he's like I'm not dating this girl they were dating.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, you know, he's just a good guy.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
He's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
He's not playing the field, he's not out there.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
He's a sweet guy. So it's a wonderful guy.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
And so anyway we like I need to play the
field a little bit for my record, was like send
G rated version.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yea. He had just like he was about to work
with Dan huff and like a big producer and he
was like I'm about to be famous, Like this is it?
Like I can't be tied down. And I was like fly,
birdy fly, and he was like we'll be friends. I
was like oh, like, hell, we will we will not know.
And he was like wait what and I was like no, no, no,
you don't get you don't get any and it too,
you don't get both.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
So I was like it's been wonderful.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I love you, but like this is it? Yeah, and
he was like wait what did he continue on? He
went on with the breakout.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, for a whole month, a whole month, a whole month.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
He kiss anyone after the show. He did, he kissed
that one person kiss and he was like, this is
not catle.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
He was like, it gave him the ck.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
He was like, oh, this is terrible. And I was like,
I've tried to tell you about me.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
You had to experience it.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
You got to go figured it out for yourself. So
you're sorry.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Well, then I started to move on and he was like, oh,
absolutely not, that's really what did it. He was like wait,
wait wait I can move on, but you but she no,
no one else. And so as soon as that happened,
he changed his tune pretty quick and then dil we

(41:25):
dated another. Then that's when all those people like in
Israel and all that because in Yeah, that's when that
started happening.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
And then come back and say I love you. Will
you be my girlfriend again? Did the love happen right away?

Speaker 4 (41:36):
That is a really good question, Hale, know the love.
The love came Kaylee Seymour. Maybe more it was the
Seymour Dickerson wedding. In case anyone's wondering, we very inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
See more Dickerson.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
We never actually put it in a newspaper because I
wanted to like send it to Jay Leno, you know,
like I was that the thing, like the late night
the inappropriate news article things. But Seymour Dickerson weddings, wedding
going down. We were only engaged for three months, so
like we never did the announcement. We just were like,
let's just I just want to be married to you.
That's funny, the Seymour Dickerson wedding. But uh, what was
I telling you before that? Mom?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I love you? When did he say I love you?

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
After that?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
After I almost broke up with him.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I think I told him about what happened and he
came around and said I love you before we broke up.
I can't remember exactly because he said it on accident
A couple of times, one time at Bongo Java at
the coffee shop hilarious. Like he was like leaving and
he was like, all right, but I love you, and
like was facing away from me and paused because he
realized what he said and just kept walking.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Like, didn't turn back to see you heard it, didn't, Like, Russell,
you can say that to my thing.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be great if you would actually, like
I know you do, but anytime now, any day. So
now he says it incessantly. It's adorable. So worked out, okay,
So then y'all have this dream and y'all got married.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
And he was not having four or five number ones.
Oh now he was having no number one. I've been
turned down by everybody in town and just a really
happy guy with a lot of faith and a lot
of talent, but nothing really happening yet.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
So are you just like we got this?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Are you just like in it for the long run?
What is that beginning part?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Like? And then what is like when the dream comes true?
Because I haven't really talked to you post dream coming true?
Because now, like he just headlined an amphitheater, he has
had all these number ones, he's been all these great tours.
I mean he's like Russell Diggerson's doing it. He's an
artist that people know, people love, he's doing it.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
It's I think when you've had that many confirmations, Like
there's a lot of people who've asked, how do we
do this or that? And I always say, I'm like, well,
you got to wait for God to tell you if
you're supposed to or not.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
How do you know when God's telling you're supposed to?

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Well, for us, it was all those confirmations. It probably
looks different than every for everyone, but you would have
to really check yourself to know what's your motivation. Now.
I'm really sensitive to motivations, and I think that's why
I really loved him, because it's I think it's a
really unique person to do what they do and like
not be a narcissist, you know, and because.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Your brand is you and everyone working with you is
obsessed with you because you are the brand.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Right, so your whole world is you. And he's so
the artist. He's like painfully humble, he.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Is honestly part of the artist.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Like role early on was like going to radio things
and like saying all the things to promote him because
he wouldn't say it like well, this song has this
many streams, or like have you heard this song? Or
like because he wouldn't do it. He just was so humble,
like painfully. So he's getting better, not in a not
humble way, but just like, hey, this is like what

(44:44):
I'm supposed to do, and it's okay to own it
and be proud. And yeah, I think you need to.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Know because we would have probably given up so many times.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
If you didn't know. So you've never doubt it.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Even when y'all were getting hard nos and things weren't
working out, you always knew it's just coming.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
I almost almost made me more sure of it because
I feel like the god path is slower and with resistance,
and everyone in the Bible waited and was refined and
it's a great thing for people to hear. Yeah, like
David was in the field for years and years and
years before he was ever, but it's king and like

(45:21):
the things that you need and the skills and the
abilities and the perseverance and the hope, all of those
things come in the field so that when you're given
a crown of sorts, it doesn't ruin you. You need
to be you need to be humbled, You need to
keep your head down. You need perseverance, you need hope,
you need faith, you need all these things.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
All these hard lessons that you have to learn the hard.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Way that don't happen overnight. And so that I'm so thankful,
Like now, looking back, I wouldn't change anything, like because
in that with success, he is truly no different, like
at all. He can just like buy me a car
that's not going to explode, you know. So that's nice,
But it's he's just the same person he really is

(46:09):
because this was never who he is. He had to
figure out who he is. And then this is the
overflow of it. So even if it went away tomorrow,
he'd be fine, he would be all right. He'd be sad,
I think, just because he loves it.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
He loves the lifestyle. Yeah, like he just loves and loves.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
To sing and loves to But also now is it,
like you said, he is meant to impact people in
y'all's marriage, Like y'all are one of those couples, you
know how like back in the when it first got going,
like Thomas Rhett and Lauren AGAs, Like everyone freaked out
over Lauren and it's like they almost love her more
than Thomas sometimes.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I mean, she's worth working out about, but I feel.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Like you're the same.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
It's like Russell is amazing and such a light on stage,
but it's like, really to me the part, And maybe
it's just because I love I want to see happy
marriages and I want to see families, and I want
to see that redemption of the family, and that has
been I feel like kind of lost a little bit
in our world this.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Day and age.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And I'm like, I see you guys, and I see
him on stage, and I see how cute he is.
I know you met him when he was like in
his scene faces he has had a glow up, a
total glow high.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
I always thought he was cute. I always did. But
sir hot dad, let's freaking go.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I know. But I'm even with the Zaddy shoes and everything,
it makes it more adorable. But I'm sure some women
would love but they see y'all as a family and
they say this, man, I wish that could be me.
But it's like, I see you guys as this family unit,
and I'm like, that is so inspiring because.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
All these women would love to be with him, right,
I'm sure as they should.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
As they should, but he is such a family man,
and like that's such an important part to him, and
that's overflows into his music and that shows in his
social media, and that's you being the wife, Like the
way you are such a force of nature and y'all
to get other are.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Just like compounded light for God. And I'm like it's
just so.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Powerful, son. Yeah, I mean, I just I can't stress enough,
like the importance of marrying a good man, you know,
like as you were saying that, that's a checklist for
a good man, a guy who knows how to avert
his eyes. I'll tell you that, because there's obvious gonna
be somebody hot always. And I like, as you were
explaining it, like all these girls like wanting him on
the stage or whatever it, it truly never crosses my mind,

(48:27):
like you'll be.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
In the crowd.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I'm not watching him looking where he's looking, Like it
does not even.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Cross my mind because he like it's not like he's
not going to see a pretty girl.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
He's got eyes, yeah, like he has eyeballs.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah, but like he's just not He's gonna always protect me,
Like I've watched him protect me enough times to know,
like he's always going to you know, I mean, you hope,
but he just is, he's it. Never even I don't
think about it, and you know, and yeah, I've been
friends with artist wives before that are like pissed sitting
so stage.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Because they have a reason to, because their husbands don't
divert their.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's just it's so such
a foreign concept to me at this point.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
So never once you've ever even it's never crossed your mind.
How amazing is that? And also do you think that's
just the god centered route thing that you guys have going?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, there's there's flashings
that happen. Did that ever happen with y'all's boys, So
it's not common.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
It's not common.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
So people people will just they will, they will, and
the guys know it's coming, they'll be what's the point
of that?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I don't know. The girls they don't.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Enjoy it, in case anyone's wondering, like I mean they
I mean they have to look.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, it's not gonna see a pair of boobs, right, No,
it's just.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
So shocking to me. I'm like, I just can't. Usually
the girls is just like really far gone you know
at that point, and then yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I'm like, what is she hoping that you see your boobs?
And like I want to hook up with you? I
don't know. I don't.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I really don't people in love with you because great,
I feel like that needs to be the caveat like
obviously like he's not looking. But then things are gonna happen,
Like there's gonna be howt girls, There's gonna be things
that happen. Yeah, I just don't I've never underst did
the hype about something like that. I can't fathom it.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Like I'm hearing a crew necked Like I'm like, can
you imagine?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
No, Like, but yeah, they'll just be like the watch
I'll see sometimes like the girl like working up the courage.
You know, I'm gonna this is this is such a
good this is such a good story about it. So
when we were out, we were in Ohio and uh,
he had a towel that he had like wiped the sweat.
I was still filming stuff back in the day. I

(50:27):
wonder if I have this video somewhere, and he threw
the towel out and someone threw a lacey bra back.
But it was the same color as the towel. Okay,
so he grabs it out of the air.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Because he thought it was the towel and realizes.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
What it is and drops it like like not even
in a cool way, just like oh, like it was
a rap, you know, Like he was just.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Like, oh my god, what's up straight to me to see.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
If I saw it or if I was upset or
like anything.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
And I am crying laughing, like I thought.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It was the funniest thing I've ever seen, and he
was he was obviously relieved, but I was like, that
is hysterical.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Not that you should throw bras on stage. I don't.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I'm like they're expensive, Like why especially.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Just for the record, they either stay on the stage
or get thrown out, Like there's nothing exciting happened to
your broll, Like keep keep that like eighty dollars or
what forty dollars? Whatever that bro is, keep your bra
But it was such a funny experience, truly, like you
had the snake or something.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
He was like, oh my god, anyway, so happens in
our lives, you know, weird stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
I just love that.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, I really, I think a lot of people
are feeling this the world feels a little bit like
it's exploding lately, and I feel like sometimes a lot
of the morals and values are getting lost, and there's
so much hurt and pain and suffering, and people are
trying to find themselves and hurting people along the way,
and you know, we just kind of I just feel

(51:55):
like some hardcore moral values have kind of people sometimes
scoff at them even a little bit this day and
age like, oh, that's like you know, yeah, like get
with it, but it's like this, but these moral values
are here to keep us protected and safe and to
see you guys like leaning into that instead.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Because we all have choices, you can go every which way.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And marriage ain't easy. I mean probably for you guys,
it's easy.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Oh no, I mean because you're the happiest couple of Well,
I don't know, I don't know what our life and
our marriage would be like if we didn't do what
we do too.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Don't you feel like that?

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Like that feels so hard that I'm like, wow, what
would our marriage just be like a cakewalk if we
were at home and you were a banker and I
was a teacher, Like I don't know, Like it feels
like the hard parts to our relationship are all external.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
But how you deal with those though, is internal totally.
It's an internal choice totally. The way that you guys
deal with the external is all about how y'all are
internally wired. And I say that, sorry, hey, listen, I

(53:09):
have a hacking problem. I'm just passing it over you.
If you got a coffin hack.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
It's the cream or something down here is to give
me flends. But I say that to a lot of
dating couples. They're like, what's your dating advice? I was like,
it should be fun, it should be easy, like life
gets hard, having kids gets hard. Your relationship. There's seven
billion people like, surely there's someone that's your best friend
that it's like easy and fun to be around. And

(53:32):
I've always felt like that with like you were saying,
we have choices, and people can look at a god
relationship as like, well, God's saying no this and that,
and he's angry. And really, if you boil down all
of the things we're told and he says to do
or not to do, they all boil down to like
this will either hurt you or hurt someone else. And

(53:52):
that's something I've seen as a parent. I'm watching my
son grab a knife off the counter and he's throwing
a fit that I won't let him have a knife,
you know, and I'm like, ain't this just like God?
Like that guy I dated was a knife and I
was screaming, crying. I wanted it, and he's like this
will hurt you. Let me take it from you. And
you're like no, yeah, but I was like that is

(54:13):
so everything can be boiled down to like living this way,
being honest, Like, don't lie because it hurts people. Don't
kill people. It hurts people, don't you know, feel don't
see it?

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, everything is it hurts people. And God just loves people.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
So he's just giving you some guidelines like don't do
this to protect to you and other people. Yeah, that's it. Really.
It's like I'm telling you, he's not like how dore you?

Speaker 4 (54:34):
You know, He's like always like I saw that, not
the move. Let's try here, let's try again, you know,
and like he's the best parent. And that's that's my
parenting style. Everyone's like, are you patient parent? Are you
this or that?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I'm like, well'm not a permissive parent because God's not
permissive either.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Hell yeah, what are you as a parent. Let's talk
about that. I try.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I try to parent how I feel like he parents me,
and it is yes, no, it is this is good
for you.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
It's not good for you. I will remove this from
you if it's not safe for you. There are consequences.
But then overly affirming and overly loving, you know, yeah,
and I don't do like we'll do timeouts, but I
don't leave him alone. Okay, I don't like the like
you did something wrong, go away from me.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
So how do you do your time out?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
I sit with him, I talk about what Yeah, so
like why are we here?

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
So say remy grabbed a knife?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Yeah, okay, okay, so yeah, if you don't put it down,
we're going to time out and I count it three.
I do a little three countdown, and then we go
to time out. And the fingers are real helpful in public.
I'll tell you that, yeah, yeah, because if they're.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Not like saying, it's like.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
But then we go and it's really you need a break,
like you need your overstimulated or whatever's happening. And so
I'll take him to the corner and we'll sit and
I'll be like, why are we here? And he'll say
because I didn't listen, And I'm like, well, was that
knife going to hurt you? And he goes yeah, And
I'm like, mommy doesn't want you to get hurt, So
Mommy's always gonna protect you and take away things that

(55:59):
are going to hurt you. And you need to trust me,
and you'll learn to trust me. And I'm really intentional
about yes to say I'm sorry, and I always say
I forgive you instead of it's okay.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Okay, tell me why you do it, because it's not okay.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
So to me, I'm like, I want him to learn.
And when I apologize to him, I'm like, I'm sorry
I wasn't able to help with that when you want
it and whatever, like I'm so, I'm so sorry. Can
you forgive mommy that I was distracted or I whatever?
And he'll say, I forgive you because I don't want
him to think it's not okay. If I'm thinking some

(56:36):
work thing on my phone is more important, it's not okay.
And if he is disobeying and saying or says something
mean or whatever, it's not okay.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
But the active practice of I forgive you, and vice versa.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
That's how I do.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
He is three, so I am no professional trust me.
Oh my gosh, I'm so not.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
And there's I'm like, well, right now we're in the
sleep aggression. My newest baby is four months and we're
not sleeping. And so at six am, I'm.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Like, Russell, they're your children now, goodbye.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
And I got to lay down today, which was very nice,
so that I can sort of have coherent sentences. But
we're just figuring it out.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I mean, how has motherhood and parenthood changed you and
Russell as individuals and your relationship.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
It's made us maybe less patient, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I think the hardest part is the relationship because we
actually love being together so much. Like last night we
got in bed and he was like, I feel like
I haven't seen you, and mind you. I went on
the road with him this weekend with the kids and
we had just got home. We got back yesterday morning
and he was like, I feel like I haven't even
seen you and we were together. But he's right, But
I think that is definitely the hardest part. And we

(57:52):
don't We're not good about date night because there's so
much we need babysitters for just in the evenings. Our
lives are so crazy, Like tonight, he is a number
one party and so I needed I need a babysitter,
and so we just when we're home, we like to
be home. And so we did do a staycation once
that was awesome or wasn't highly recommend I found it.

(58:16):
We did the one hotel downtown Nashville.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yes, in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
In Nashville, Yeah, and he was like maybe a month ago,
and we had some extra points on our card.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
So right after you had a baby, you did it.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Yeah, good for you.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
That's hard.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Well, no, I got a night nurse.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I was like, that's hard to do.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
And the breakaway, yeah, I needed it, couldn't.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I wasn't sleeping. I was like, I'm dying. I need
to sleep.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
And so he was like, all right, here's our date night.
And we hadn't done a date night probably in like
six months or something, so we had all this date
night cash stacked up that I was like, let's go.
We're getting a night nurse and stayed the night and
it just really was good for me to have a
dinner that I wasn't headed home afterwards, and my mom's
in town, and so we had pulled all the favors.
We had the grandparents, we had everything.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
But you're like, the kids are fine, Yes, I can. Yeah.
So I chocked out check out and I just needed that.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
And every time I do something like that, it's hard
to be like, we're going to prioritize this, and but
then every time I'm like, we needed this, Like I
needed to sleep and be a coherent person and have
a conversation with you. And that's definitely what I missed
the most pre kids. But obviously you wouldn't trade anything. Ever.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I know. I feel like Remy and rad are the
luckiest boys to have you and Russell for their parents.
I mean, just the joy that's going on in y'all's
house all the time. And I wanted to talk to
you about this too.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
And we'll wrap up.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I'm sure we're gont close to an hour. I have
no idea how long this has been going. Probably, I'm
sorry you've got to wrap up.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Oh my gosh. Okay, well, okay, first off, I'll be quick.
I'll do sorry.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
I was just like rambling.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I love this. This is why I could talk to
you for two hours. That's why I need a time time.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Okay, great, I feel like you're so good at social media,
because like social media can be all consuming, but you're
so good at showcasing your life and Russell and he's
so ador and your kids are so adorable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
But I feel like it doesn't consume your entire existence,
but you show us your life. Is there an art type?

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
I love that you think that, because I was like,
I probably should hire somebody, like I'm not very good
at this. I document a lot because I'm a photographer,
so like I just film everything. But then my problem
is is I don't put it up because I want
to be in the moment. So I'll be like, oh,
I'll post that leader, I'll post that leader.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
And then like, we went to the super Bowl. I
put you in a super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Do I have a single thing on my feet about it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Sure? Don't wait?

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
You went?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
You went to this year's super Bowl with Travis It.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yes, mostly with Blake Lively. I don't know those two.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Travis and Taylor cool?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Love it great?

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I'm kind of Lake Lively kind of losing my love
for I was like, no, no, no, no no for
Travis and Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I love him so much, but he went a little
bro for me. At the super Bowl. But yeah, I
won the super Bowl. Good for him. He's happy. Yeah,
it's great. I love him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I still love my theory on the two of them.
I think it was a setup, you do, I do,
But I think do you think it was a set
up or they did get set up?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Yeah, But I think it's like a Hallmark, a real
life homework movie. I think they've really fall in love
with each other.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
They were like, let's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Pretend we're a couple, just because it would make all
this buzz in the whole world, and then they actually
fell in love with each other. I do not think
it was this, that's my theory.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You really think, No. I think it was like exciting
because he.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Like premiated the door I've ever been really pursued. Yeah,
but if anyone needs the fairy tale, it's her. She's
written so many songs about it and tried so hard
for love.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I'm rooting for it. I think they're very cute. I
like like Travis.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I like that he has his own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
But yeah, the yeah, the whole like you gotta fire
at a party like all that. I was like, that's great,
but I'm like it was intense.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
It was intense. It was intense, but yeah, we got
to go. And but all that to say, I did
post on my stories because I was like, we're at
the super Bowl for the feed. No, that's what I'm saying.
I that's why you're like, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Good at this. I'm like, honestly, I'm not. So maybe
today I'll post about you should do a reel about
the super Bowl, Kayley, I know, I know. We took
our dads. It was so cute.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
It was so cute my dad, Russ's dad and honestly
my dad. He wore his oldest living teenager.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
She also wore on your podcast, Yes exactly. Is he
the happiest thing ever?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Yes, but that's you know, you marry your dad, so
you're really rustle.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I'm very, very blessed that my nervous system was
accustomed to someone who's like joyful, faithful and like wonderful.
You know that that felt comfortable to me. I know
he's amazing and so, but it was hilarious. He got
he got more pictures asked than Russell did. Yes, they
were like keeping tabs and he'd beat Russ by like

(01:02:26):
two stop because people were like, can I have a
picture with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Your shirt's amazing. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
You're blessed from the start. You were meant to bless
the world, and you and Russell are meant to bless
the world. Talk about coffee with Kaylee really quickly because
we're already.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I mean, come have coffee with me and my friends,
and you have to come on it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I would want to come on it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I just when I eventually get out of the two
kid newborn Land, maybe I'll sleep. That'd be great, and
then I'll try and do another season. And you have
to do this with me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yeah, and you learn from that podcast how much I
need it. M I feel you on that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
I thought it was going to like help other people
and you know, let my friends be heard in the world.
Like I just feel like I have such amazing friends
and so many people don't get really great friend groups,
and I'm like, I just want to share. And I
thought I was doing it for everyone else and it
ended up being really good for me. I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, so much. I've learned so much about life from
the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
I learned so much from like even you'd ask different
questions than you would in real life, a little bit,
like I don't know I have to be even more intentional.
And the things that I learn, even about my friends,
I just they're awesome, just like you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
So you got to come on there, You're amazing, Okay,
anything I'm missing so many things I'm missing. Russell has
a number one party today. He's got his fourth or
fifth number one AA think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Five come so flu Tacoma, every little thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Love you, like I used to, God gave me a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Five five number one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I just love that we can't remember. That's so great.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
I mean, twenty twenty was in't there felt like a vourtex,
Like there was something that got pretty close but didn't go.
So I was like, wait is it? I don't Yeah, anyway, five,
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Okay, So let's wrap up with leave your life. What
do you want people to know? It's just open ended question.
What do you want people to know to inspire them?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
I just want people to know honestly that God loves them, really,
that you are loved, And I like feel so lucky
to have like such an incredible love story this on
this earth. But like ultimately I already had the greatest
love story, you know. Yeah, yeah, like someone loves you

(01:04:29):
and me enough that they're like, yeah, I'd rather die
than not be with you, you know, like that actually happened,
and knowing that, I feel like was just the baseline
for everything else in my life, to like have the
faith for something because you know you're loved and that
changes everything. The way you're able to love other people
out of an overflow instead of a deficit, and it's

(01:04:52):
just life changing. And I just want everyone to know
they're loved. Really, I love that, Kaylee. I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I love you, I love you. Thank you so much.
I love your life. I'm so proud of you. Thank
you for coming on. Truly, you're an angel.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
You and wrestle our angels, and I get why y'all
have been prophesied that you will speak to millions because
people need to be around you and your light and
your energy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
It's so amazing and it's such a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Joy to see you guys in action and living out
your purpose and blessing your own life and others, and
the way you navigate and deal with life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
It's just such a testament to your faith. Thank you
for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
On, Kaylee, stick Hoby everybody on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
This Thursday, We're gonna have a quick episode of Burning
Questions with Kaylee Dickerson.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
So you're gonna want to tune in because I can't
wait to see what kind of burning questions are coming away.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Kaylee, Love you, Love you back bye.

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