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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Carol. She's queen and she's getting not afraid things, so
just let it flow. No one can do with cry Carol.
This sounds Caro. I am so happy to be here
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with Noel. I was just telling you earlier I was
coming in hot, I was coming off of a doctor's appointment.
Then my internet wasn't working and I saw that you
had logged in and I was like, no, no, we're
gonna get to see here. You're back, and you said
you had some scheduling issues too. So sometimes I feel
like things just start off with a great hot mess
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express but it's it's wonderful. Yess it is. But I
sometimes feel like when it's really chaotic and you're really
like so stressed, then suddenly it's something really cool is
waving afterward. I feel that yeah, because there's a surge
of energy, you know, it's you have so much going on.
It feels like all these balls in the air and
it's like where are they going to land? And then
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it's like, Okay, great, it's gonna be awesound good, It's
all good. You're awesome. This book is awesome, um amazing.
My husband and I are actually renovating an airbnb right.
We got an old like how Airbnb, and we've been
looking through this book to create your dream home on
a budget. No. I love it. You're a life, your story,
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your heart, your bandwidth of energy. Like you have more
energy than anyone ever do, I always say, And I
can bottle my energy and sell it. I would be
a multimillionaire. You just wake up with so much energy
every day. Hey do I don't. I've always been that way.
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My mother in law says, it's my blood type. I
don't know, I have like positive something, so she says,
it's oh, go go go. I don't know, Okay, So
I kinda want to talk about your story a little bit.
I was tearing up reading a whole bunch of your
posts because you I love the way you share so y'all.
You have your Instagram account is jets at homes and
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also your TikTok jets at farms just a farmhouse, just
a farmhouse, farm house, and um, you have like five
million people on TikTok following you, and you have like
hundreds of thousands on Instagram. You are so good at
sharing your life and I love how you do voiceovers
on it, and you kind of like tell us, like
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walk us through all the different parts of your life.
Which I have learned so much from you from your Instagram,
Like it's such a learning account. Like you share so
many life hacks. You share so many tools to like
organize you share clean out your car with like special vacuums.
How to make your laundry to urgent. How you don't
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need to use a ton of laundry detergent, you just
need to use like two table spoons or something. It's
like you have all of this knowledge and then the
main thing, obviously is renovating homes. You and your husband
do this together. Where did you get all of your knowledge?
Like you have this vast knowledge of just how to
do so many things. I am just a firm believer
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and we are capable of learning anything. And I've always
been a researcher. My husband says it means I like
to be right all the time. That's not true. I
truly just want to know. So if I want to
learn something, I will delve into it. I will figure
it out. And I want to know the best way
to do it, the right way to do it, and
all the solutions and options. And for years, all that
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information was just you know, floating inside my head, benefiting
no one, frustrating my husband, and finally this outlet came
along where I am actually able to share all of
this crazy stuff and people love it. So social media
just been awesome for you. It has been life change
game in every aspect. So tell me about that, because
you were one of those stories where you don't we
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hear that. We hear all the time with social media, like, oh,
social media, the compare game. Like it's like, I can't
do social media stresses me out, But I feel like
that is not for you, Like I feel like you
use social media to share and to inspire. Talk to
me about how it has changed your life. Because jets
at Farmhouse exploded obviously on TikTok, and is that how
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I really got going? No, So, actually it all started
on Instagram and it was totally accidental. I had a
we have five kids now that the time, I had four,
and my youngest son, my only son at the time,
was too and he was one of those kids that
just like make you want to pull your hair out.
Now he is the sweetest six year old in the universe,
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but at the time, you know, he was giving me
a run for my money. And I remember a New
Year's Eve of going into I wrote in my journal
my goal for that year was just to find something
to pour myself into because I felt like I was
losing my identity as a mom, as a personal losing
myself into motherhood. Yes, and I didn't fooled myself. Yes,
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you know, I was homeschooling then, Like we were very
just you know, we didn't leave the house for like
two years because my son, you just couldn't take him anywhere.
And I pulled myself out of my husband's business and
we had hired somebody to kind of take my role. Um,
so I was just feeling very lost. And com February,
we were getting ready to build this new house and
we went onto architectural Designs dot com, where the plan
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for our house was kind of based on and they
had added a client album, which is where they share
like different people and have built the same plan. And
there was a girl on there and it said the
little notes that she was on Instagram. Mind you, at
the time, I thought Instagram was a place to put
filters on my pictures to go put them on Facebook
so grandma, you know, could see them. Like I didn't
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know anything about influencer marketing. This social media network I
got had no earthly clue. So I went looked at
her platform and she had twenty followers and she had
simply shared pictures of construction. So I thought, we're going
to be doing this pretty much by ourselves, so maybe
that would give us a unique aspect that other people
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don't have, and maybe this would just be something I
could do, like to build some community and just have
some fun. So I started sharing February and fast forward
to July. I was in a twenty followers because what
we were doing really resonated with people, and I got
a d N from a door company and they said, hey,
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would you mind if we put doors on your house
in exchange for some pictures and if you run the
book and you know anything about us, Like budget was
our key word going into this field. Like we were
doing it ourselves. We were second handing, you know, as
much materials as we could, like repurposing things like truly
just keeping us as cheap as we could. So heck,
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if I could say my ten thou dollar door budget,
I consolutely signed me up um. But in the process
I said, well, if they want to do that, what
other companies would want to do that, So that kind
of became my goal for the next year, like really
growing a platform that provided value for my audience and
connecting with as many brands as possible. And we ended
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up garnering over five dred thousand dollars in materials toward
our house, which was just that in and of itself,
even if nothing else had ever happened with social media,
that in and of itself was life changing because it
went from you know, a house that would have been
nice but probably would have been finished over like five years.
You know, you know how it does in your d
I win and you just kind of slowly do things
as you have the money in the time, and instead
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when it was finished, it was a book worthy house literally.
Solf relationships, How did you develop these relationships that to
natures nature? That researcher in me that I was talking
about earlier that you up it was we just find
him an email and be like, hey, I want to
trade you or what was your how was your approach?
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Generally I'd send them a d M on Instagram and
say hey, you know this is who I am who
in your business? What I talked to concerning a possible collaboration,
and then they'd usually write me back and tell me
who to email, and I'd send them an email and
just explain who we were, what we were trying to accomplish,
and what we could offer their company, and just you know,
see if they were interested, that's amazing. And so you
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started getting all these brand deals with twenty thousand followers, yes,
and then it grew just kept growing and growing and growing,
and now like you're like on a rocket ship. Yeah,
TikTok wasn't even a thing at that time. So TikTok
kind of um happened as an accident as well. I
have my oldest daughter is seventeen now, but at the
time fourteen probably, And TikTok was the rage for teenagers
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at that point, right like you in in the early nine nineteen,
early twenty, that's where all the teens were, right, Nobody,
no businesses were there yet. And she was like making
all these TikTok videos. I was like, watch your old
mama work here. So I put it. I put a
video out and I got a million views and first, yes,
the first one, and she's like, oh, it's not even there.
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But I didn't even need to do anything with it.
I was just kind of doing it to be funny.
And then COVID hit and I just saw this shift instantly.
People were home, they were bored, they were looking for
something to do, and I could just see TikTok was exploding,
and so I just poured started pouring myself into TikTok
as well. And that's what, you know, catapulted us to
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where we are now. So what would you say people
respond to the most because there's something about you, Like
after I deep dive stopped you so hard. I mean,
I've you're so awesome. I've thought you were great for
a long time, but like really like getting into like
you in the way that you express in your personality.
You're so kind and gentle in the way that you share,
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and you just but you just know so much. It's
like listening to you is so calming, because like you
have so many answers and solutions, and you have all
of these tips for just regular people on a budget
who need advice about life and home and family, and
but you just like the way you share it is
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so calming too. You're so kind. Oh my goodness, do
you made me cry? Um honestly, I think and if
I don't know if you know about my other book
or not, but I talked about my childhood. I had,
you know, pretty rich childhood and grew up very poor.
Um you know, just not knowing a lot of things.
And I wasn't surrounded by normal society like anything. For
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four two thousand movies music. I have no idea what
you're talking about. Um, So I think as I entered adulthood,
I felt very lost, like I just was out of
play U side and really know a lot of things
and religious and I'm not call it a cult. Okay,
So you grew up kind of related from the world, yes, yes, okay.
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We didn't have TV. We weren't allowed to listen to
secular music or even contemporary Christian music. Um, no movies, no,
you know, we have very isolated from the world. Was
it safe? Oh? Okay, yeah, that's the thing. It depends
on your definition of safe, right. Yeah. I know we
have a good thing community like this near my hometown,
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and a bunch of kids have left. But it's like
to leave it is like such an ordeal and it's
like they don't know anything about the life. And it
started off to protect people from the world. But then
it takes this alternate yes, yes, and that is it,
and my parents like, truly their goal was to protect us,
Like that's what they thought they were doing, is putting
us in this community where we would be safe and
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godly and they're perfect little Christian people, yes, so sheltered,
But instead it really just did the opposite. Um. So
I kind of feel like as I was learning, as
in a don't, it just became natural for me to
kind of share, like, hey, look what I'm learning, and
I just have a heart for other people out there.
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Not that they have the same background, because I know
there's not that many people in the world that were
raised like that, though there are a lot surprisingly, um,
but just I have a true heart for the people
that don't know how to organize and how to clean
and how to you know, build a business in a
life that is something that they want and just don't
know how to go to get there. And I was
so lost not that long ago. So I really want
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to encourage and share that and help anyone that might
be trying to find their way on the path like
I did. So that's why why sharing and learning is
so like this is just who you are. You're like
so excited by it, like you like love to learn
share because for so long you didn't have access to
this and so now you have it and you're like,
oh my gosh, look at this. Yes, yes, yes, that's amazing.
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How old were you when you left the religious group?
So my parents got kicked out when I gus, yeah, okay, okay,
when I was one. And I mean it's a long,
long story, and so I talked about it in my book,
but the first book, not this book. Um there, my
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dad raised some red flags about some money that you know,
was potentially missing, and the pastor and his son who
was the principal, didn't like that, and so they my
parents are the curve. Yeah, so it was it was
very traumatic because we've been there for twenty years at
that point, and that was it wasn't just a church
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that was our last, our family that yeah, that's all
we had ever known. So it was very hard for
my family, and it was very hard for me because
everything I had ever been taught it was wrong and
it really made me question everything. I say, my moral
compass just got like exploded because pants aren't to sin
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if watching TV isn't to send what is a sin?
You know? And it took me a good decade of
really wondering and making mistakes and learning to figure out
what do I believe and what do I you know,
what is in my heart and what do I want
to live my life like? So you were twenty when
you got kicked out, So you had lived your whole
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life in this religious group, and then you were taught
all these things were bad and wrong with the world.
And then now here you are, as a very young
adult in the world, realized and did your parents now
agree that, like, did everyone in your family have this
mental ship that now like what you have been taught
is not the truth? Like? So are y'all all like
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having everyone is removed from it? Um? My parents still,
you know, they struggle more than I think the kids did,
just because they had lived their entire adult life that way,
whereas we were still young enough to kind of you know,
figure it out and move differently. And we're all there's
five of us, and we are all at differ front levels,
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you know that. I would say, some that are like
nothing to do with religion at all, and then some
that are still in the ministry. Um, so at different levels.
So here you are at twenty one years old, and
you are just literally a blank canvas now because everything
that you had hung your moral compass and code and
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heart on is now not the truth and you are
now having to reevaluate your entire life. Wow, noel okay.
And and things that I didn't even know. Things I
go back and like look at like the curriculum that
we were taught with and just the way we were
raised and taught and just ingrained in our heads, and
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I didn't realize how wrong it was. Like there's even
things now that come up and I'm like, oh my gosh,
that's so bad. Like I can't believe they've taught us that,
like you like racism and like all all the things.
And I'm sure it was like one way and that's
the only way. Oh yeah, my way or the highway
or God's way or the highway. Yeah, oh my gosh.
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The whole religious cult groups. I'm from Waco, Texas, and
there's a lot of them where. Yes, okay, but my
own funny of my dad alas said the wackos from
wiccol Yes, David Koresh and the branch of Indians. But
then there's there's more like it's it's something about this.
There's like an energy field or something. It's like it
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there's a lot of groups that gather in Wago about
that Wago is a great place, but in Magnolia also
fix her up. We've been I've been there a few times.
It's so pretty. Um So, how did you even start
this journey to discover who you are? And on one hand,
I mean, on one hand, it's like it's so traumatizing
because your whole life is like now, like nothing is
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stable at everything's upside down. But on the other hand,
it's like the ultimate freedom because now you are the
only one deciding for you what is right and wrong.
But now it's just you, like you're on your own
journey now completely. I don't think it felt like freedom
in the beginning. It just felt like look no looking back.
Though it was looking back, it definitely was, But in
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the time I just felt so lost, like and and
I was just around people that were totally different than
I had been raised by. And then I'm okay, well
they are they right? Are they doing what's right? You know?
Um So, how did you get your men dialed in? Like?
How did you even know how ten years of making
some really wrong mistakes and getting my best off on
some really bad paths and just you know, figuring out
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that this is not how I'm going to live my
life and I'm going to you know, just I went
through the bad I feel like I went through my
teenage years in my twenties. Honestly, that's kind of what
I feel like, like the mistakes most people make it
like fourteen fifteen, sixteen, I was making six. Um, so
it just took a little bit longer to you know,
get my path straightened out and figure out what I wanted.
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And so that involved you know, I'm a pregnant see
a marriage in that order, um, but then my two
beautiful daughters and then a divorce and single mom now
of two little baby girls. And then I met my
husband at seven, and he of course played a very
big role in because he had you know, because it's
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just a wonderful person. And he played a very big
role in helping me buy myself and figure figure it
all out and work through it all and you know,
help me to figure out my path. Man, you made
this post about him that I actually want to share
because like this one is what really made me chear up,
and I'm probably gonna chear upbringing it. But I cry
all the time. I I literally cry all this time. Okay,
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So I think this is around Christmas that you posted
this and you said for New Year's, Happy New Year's.
I'm so great, so grateful to be ringing in the
New Year with this man by my side. He doesn't
always get enough credit on our social media, but I'll
say this, if the world could have if the world
could have more men like Daniel, would be a much
better place. He is loyal, kind, generous, the best brother
you could ever hope to have for your children, supports
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me and all my endeavors, and does everything he does
with a sense of humility I can't even describe. I'm
not sure what I did to deserve him in my life.
I'll be forever grateful he took a chance on this
single mama, this one gives me but two baby girls,
and chose to love us unconditionally. Did I will be
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forever grateful man. That is so this morning. I know.
Sorry I am, and I'm always emotional. And your story
just like it's so beautiful, like the love story you're
the way that you have come like honestly come from
such a wild beginning and like had so much happened
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to you turn your life upside down and now you
are here. You are like this inspiration on the internet,
like and in your books and everything you're doing, and
you are literally showing people that true love can exist
for yourself, for a spouse, for your kids, for your dreams.
Like you are literally letting people know it can happen,
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and it has happened for you. And it's not that
it's not hard, but like it's so inspiring to see
your life play out like this. No, well just to
see it definitely, it is just it's humbling, honestly, and
you know, like even Daniel Hall asked me like looking back,
like will you ever stop sharing like the past and
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sharing what you went there? And like, no, I won't
because there's there's little girls out there that are being
raised in similar situations or just you know, whatever situation
that they're struggling, and I never want someone to look
at me and just think like, oh, that's the life
she was handed or you know, she was given things.
I just wasn't because I wasn't really given anything. And
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I want them to know that they don't have to
have been given anything and they can still build an
amazing life. I my my theme for this year um
with my podcast has been really it's like I am
so interested in like the cards that people were dealt, like,
you know, like the cards that you're dealt in your life.
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But this discussion yesterday really how you play your cards,
Like you are such an example of like you can
be dealt a set of cards that may feel like
not as promising as your life is today, you know,
but it's how you play your cards that makes all
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the difference. Absolutely. You're having this conversation with your daughter.
Yes my seventeen year old and I went shopping yesterday
and we're on the way home. We were talking about
this about how just you know, your childhood really just
affects you so much as an adult, and how it
just seems so unfair that you're just born into whatever
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situation you're born into, and people just have a major
disadvantage by where they're born and who they're around. And
even in her you know, she was saying, like even
in her life that you know, she's dealt with divorce
and her dad hasn't been in her life versus like case,
the baby, he's you know, gonna have a mom and
a dad and you know, a much better life and
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she did when she was younger. And how that just
automatically sets him up better because he's not gonna have
the feelings of being you know, abandoned, and he's not
going to deal with the insecurities that she's had to
deal with in her lifetime. And and I know she
wouldn't mind me sharing that because where she's very open with, um,
the things that have happened in her life. Um. But
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it's just how different your life can be, truly, just
based on how you were raised. It's it's it determines everything.
And I feel like it's been our whole what do
they say, like the first seven years of your life
in print the rest of your life, you know, it's
like our whole life trying to make sense and understand
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end our entry into this world, you know, and like
the like like you said, the people that we were
entered into this world with, and like the circumstances around
us and all the factors at play. We spend the
whole rest of our life trying to make sense of
it and trying to and then and the sad thing
is we're born to parents generally that are still young
and they're still learning, and they haven't figured out their
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crap there. They're still shoveling through the things that they
were raised with. And that's how those generational traumas just
get handed down and handed down. And I know, I
see so many other moms on social media saying it
stops with me. I'm making the change. I'm doing the
self growth because I'm not going to let these habits
continue down through my family. And I know I was
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very intentional with that with my kids, especially my son,
and our family going back generations, the father daughter daughter
son relationships have been horrible, really, Yeah, like great grandma
and her son and then he her his daughter and
then her son. You know, just the opposite sex as
they go down. And I can see why, you know,
everyone strong personalities, you know, all these things, and my
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son crew and I was so intentional when he was
at that stage that I was describing earlier, you know,
or he was just like holding his breath and passing
out and he didn't get his way and just screaming
all the time. And I would get down on his
level and I would just look in his eyes like
Mamma loves you, like, go ahead, get it out, Like
there's nothing you're gonna do that's gonna change my love
for you. I don't think I ever lost my temper
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with him. I just was so intentional about just loving
him through it because I was like, I remember, I
know what you feel like I remember feeling so frustrated
when I was younger and feeling like all these emotions.
And I'm a safe place for you. And like I said,
now he's six and he was just the sweetest kid ever. Well,
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have an amazing relationship. You let him feel his big
feeling and you don't shame you're being emotional. You're being
You're just too emotional. You're too emotionally shut your emotions down,
you know. Like I was told that all the time,
and I didn't tell let him. I let him feel
and let him have them. Let him know that's normal.
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It's normal to feel those and I'm here to support
you through them. Do you remember all your childhood? Like
do you remember, like so you have like a still
bault memory. Oh yeah, I remember back to when I
was like two years old. You do, do you remember
it all? Oh? Yeah? And I don't and I don't
just remember what happened to me because I always say
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that what happened to me doesn't affect me as much
as what happens to my younger brothers. Like watching the
things that happened to them almost affected me more than
what happened to me. Was that just like having to
shut your feelings down, not not be allowed to just
like the physical, the physical, like the things that the
church promoted, you know, like spared the rod, spool of
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the child, that kind of stuff, what spare the rod
spoiled the child that you know, borderline into child abuse
in my opinion. Yeah, and just and just all the
other chaos that was involved, and just seeing them get
hurt and all those things. It's so wild to me
that you can that that, like if people can act,
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can be religious and be working towards God, but then
they can like physically like hurt a child to get
them to behave to be the child of God. It
makes I will never understand. I will never understand, And
I still have that argument with people in my life
to this day, and I'm like I will not hit
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my I'm like, you want you want you know, you
want someone to see you hit another adult to tell
them not to do something like you just don't do
that like that? Ye, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
my daughter not to hit or scratch or physically harm someone,
but then I'm gonna spank her. Don't get how does
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that make any sense at all? I don't understand at all.
So for me, and I'm not trying to put shame
on parents, but this is just how I truly feel,
and I feel like you feel the same. It's like
it just takes a lot more energy to be intentional
and loving and you just herself, like you have to
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control your own self, which is the hard part. And
I've taken a lot of like I have a lot
of um to due to this podcast. I have met
so many incredible inspired women and mothers and entrepreneurs like
yourself and you. It's like it's our job to regulate
ourselves the parents, so then we can help. So that's
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actually what Yes, that's actually what started the conversation with
my daughter yesterday because I had watched the lady on
TikTok talk about how when her children were little, like
eighteen months and three, she didn't have self regulation and
she was like freaking out every time the kids freaked out,
and so she started going to Counselane learned that she
needed to self regulate so that then she could be
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a parent. And that's that's what you have to do.
And it's almost exactly like what you're saying, Like when
when a crew your son was like holding his breath,
passing out, throwing fits whatever. It's like you almost have
to like you don't almost you have to switch your
brain completely and be like okay, instead of like matching
energy matching and joining, it's like you have to do
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a whole other move and go to the other side
where it's just calmness and being like it's almost like
it's almost like you're watching a movie playoff. It's like
I'm not in this movie. I'm not joining here to
support you. But it's like to get that in your head.
Like I've had to do so much work on that
because my daughter in the beginning, like when she I
was always energy matching her, like if she was upset,
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I would try, I would get upset it she was happy,
I'd be happy because I just wanted I just was
so controlled by her feelings. And then I realized I
cannot be energy matching. Like I am the adult here
and it is my job to calm her down and
be that safe place. But it is it is hard.
It takes a lot of work and self awareness, it does.
And I think that I'm very grateful that I was
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a little bit older when I had Crew Good. If
I had had him at twenty three, probably would have
been a you know, I probably wouldn't have had the
maturity and the self control too, you know, be that person.
But since I was, I was thirty four, I think
when I had him, um, I was able to you know,
just I had done enough self growth by that point
that I was really able to do that for him.
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And then chase case or chase case case. So he
was a surprise, yes, amazing surprise, amazing surprise. Yes. How
many years did he come after? So it's kind of
a crazy journey. We were actually told, you know, I
had my two girls, and I met Daniel, Hey, nice Cup,
not Dan Daniel, and he always wanted a big family,
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like he had a little sister that is Dick's teen
years younger than him, and a little brother that's twenty
one years younger than him. So all during high school,
he had babies around him, and everyone I knew from
his you know, childhood was always like we thought Daniel
would be a dad long before now you know, he
wants a big family. And we met and I couldn't
get pregnant, and of course everyone thought like, oh, it's Daniel,
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like she already has two kids, and it wasn't. It
was me. I have really bad endometriosis. So we were
actually told after my girls that I wouldn't be able
to have children again, and we didn't obviously accept that answer,
and we pushed through, which I think we had a
total of six miscarriages. Um, but we had Amelia and
then we had Crew, and then I was like, hey,
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you know, we're good. We got our miracle babies. This
is awesome, so great. Um, but you know, we didn't
try not to have a baby because we just thought
it was impossible. And then a year well not two
years ago, we got pregnant out of the blue and
we're like, oh wow, that's amazing. And then we miscarried
it and I was like, oh my gosh, like this
is not like I'm too old for these, like I
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can't do this some emotions anymore. So I turned forty
last smith, and I was like, all right, a new decade,
Like we got our babies were good. A week later
I found that the case was coming to the earth.
So best surprise ever. Did you do anything like to
help the endimesiosis? Because I've had three miscarriages, and but
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I mean it's just I'm kind of I haven't had
as many as you. But it's like it's just sort
of like you know, it's just like and first they
were all different, like there was nothing that was like, oh,
it's this thing, this is what we need to do
to fix it. With Case, I did take progesteron um
during the first trimester and baby aspirin, so I know,
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I don't know if that help because my went for
me once it's a good pregnancy. It's a good pregnancy.
It's just getting to be one getting pregnant and then
to getting it past that safe point that I just
struggled with so bad um. But oh yeah, we did
everything except I we never did I v ask that
we did everything at that point. It's like it is
just such a journey, the whole journey of motherhood and
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raising children, like miscarrying all of it. It's like I
feel like I have transformed, like into a completely different person.
I don't so hard. Yeah it's amazing, it's amazing, but
it's amazing, and I feel I do feel. So I'm
miscarried twice before I had Sunny and then we just married,
miscarried again, and I'm kind of the same way. I'm like,
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I just don't know if I'm I'm thirty nine. Like
I just feel like I am just not meant to
be pregnant a lot, Like it's just not like something
that works with my body or I don't know, but
it's just it's given me like a surrendering and acceptance,
you know, to like a bigger picture, and it's like
if it happens, wonderful, but if not, I just I
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have to accept that, like there's something bigger guiding all
of this, you know, Yeah, And that's what you have
to come to terms with, because if you sit there
and you try to figure it out, and like we
just ablished, I'm a researcher. I like to know the answers.
And when you truly have no control over something, it
will drive you crazy. So you have to just surrender
and accept and just be grateful for you know, the
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miracles that you do have and then hey, you never know,
your case could be out there maybeing or there could
be a totally different plan for you. So it's it is.
It is so hard though, and and the shame in
it and the people that don't talk about it, and
it's just such like a hush hush thing. Like I've
friends who have had miscarriages and their mom doesn't even
know because they're so like a shamd talk about it
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and then like it's it happens. It's so common. It
is a very common thing. And the more we can
talk about it and share and share the hurt because
the love that we have his mother's for our children,
that like unconditional, undying love, it doesn't happen like down
the road. It's in our heart and the moment are
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even before I think we know they exist, but definitely
the moment we know that their little presence exist, we
love them to say, like whether they're eighteen or just
a positive pregnancy test, the mother's love is there and
you can't help that. That's what makes us who we
are as mothers. I totally agree. So faith is a
huge thing for you, Like you talk about like having
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faith like in everything that you do. But your journey
with faith, like we've talked about earlier, has been such
a discovery and it has been such like it has
been such a journey, Like you've started somewhere and now
you're somewhere else. Talk to me about what God is
to you now, Like how is God in your life?
How do you incorporate God? And what? How is God
in your family and everything you do? Because I feel
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like your God is a loving God. It is a
very like just it's it's like the it's the way
I feel when I, like honestly follow your stories. It's
like this nurturing, gentle kind, supportive God, which is how
I view God as well. Um, but absolutely about God
in your life and how you incorporate him and everything.
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So to me, it is really not rules like that
how That's how I was raised. Religion was just rules.
Everything is you know, you gotta do this, live this way,
follow these examples. Um, everything is. He's just judging you
and you've got to live up to this criteria. It's me,
it's me. It feels yes, there's no, which is no.
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And that's the father figures I saw growing up around
me and it's like that's all I knew. Yes, yes,
and I will harshly punish you if you don't follow
my exact rules or I don't like your attitude, or
you know, whatever it is. And to me, it's a relationship.
And so I'm very big on just loving my kids
and showing them what I see. That God to be
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the being that has guided me through these years and
through these journeys, that has allowed blessings and what I
would consider love to come my way even when I
was undeserving, even when I made mistakes, even when I
found myself on the wrong path. That that force that
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allowed me to find my path and you know, brought
Daniel into my life and brought all the wonderful blessings
and my beautiful children, all those things into my life.
That is the God that I lean into and that
I show my children. And then I hope that people
see in me and I don't. It is coming out
of you know, it's everywhere. I don't need to thump
my Bible and say go to church and you know,
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do these things and follow these things. I don't need
to do that. I want people to look at my
life and say there's something different and there's something that
I want in my heart, and that to me is
what God would be and God, who God wants us
to be is love and kindness and just giving and
being in a way that bridge just attracts others and
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brings goodness to life. You do show that in your life,
like in the way that you put all of your
stuff out there. I'm telling you, like, if anyone's having
a bad day, they should just go look at like
ten of your real because you know, like the most nurturing, loving,
supportive mother and friend and wife. Like the way that
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you nurture and love like it's so present and everything
that you're putting out there, and that's what the world needs.
We need that love and nurturing spirit. And the coolest
thing to me is, you know, there are people that
questioned how I was raising my children, and there are
people that looked at me and said, that's that's not
how you do that. But you know what, and not that.
I mean, I have four more coming, so we could
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totally different around the road, But I have a seventeen
year old that's even for college and six lenths and
the relationship that we have and the things that she
comes and says to me, lets me know that I
didn't something right. Maybe didn't do it all right, but
I did something right. And the love and security that
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she feels and the relationship that we have, I mean,
they didn't do it all wrong. Do you think it's
because she knows she can be honest with you about everything,
abolutely absolutely, And she says, you know, when I was
like fourteen, I didn't know that. You know, She's like,
I thought that, but I didn't know that. And she's like,
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but now, just time after time after time when I've
come to you with different things, even when I've been
so scared to tell you that maybe it took me
a month to tell you something like the way you
handle it and the grace you give me and the
love you give me, and it's always you know, let's let'
let's work through it, let's figure this out together. Um. Yeah,
that is definitely it. I mean, how much better can
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it feel for a god I'm gonna cry again with you, Noel,
for a child to know that they can come to
their mom with anything, if you're gonna be like, it's okay,
I got you. Yes, Yes, I never had that feeling
growing up ever, ever, and I'm so thankful that I'm
able to give that to my children. Oh gosh, what
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a beautiful, beautiful life and human and journey or on
and Okay, so I want to talk a little bit
about your book because, like you told, I've learned a
lot from your reels too. But you're like you do
so much of this, you and your husband d I
Y like crazy people like y'all literally like y'all d
I Y like the whole house, like you'll put it
all in like by yourself. And you're saying that like
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of cost of houses, on paying people for labor, So
if you can figure out how to do it yourself,
which is why this book is is the handbook that
everyone needs who is renovating or doing a project like
a home, because you show the practical, easiest best ways
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to do it by yourself to cut of your cost
out if you can do it by yourself, Like how
did you even figure out how to start doing home renovations?
Were you did you? Just like research? It is this
part of your amazing like just like once you get
into figured it out, like did you teach yourself how
to be like during construction work? Basically, so Daniel was
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in flooring most of his career. That's what he did,
so like wood floor entile, like shower innovation. So he
understood like the fundamentals of construction, like you know, you
put the board like this and you use a level,
you know whatever, like the basic fundamentals. But just like
you can drive a car, but it doesn't mean you
can build a car, right. So yes, the skill that
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he had came in so handy when it was time
to tile the showers and put our wood floors down,
and as far as digging our footers and putting in
our floor joys and framing our walls and all those things,
we had never done that before. And honestly, that wasn't
even our plan. Our plan was not to frame the
house ourselves. That was a very big undertaking that just
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kind of happened because to know what you're doing when
you're framing a house, I think. So we found this
system called ready frame and it's kind of like those
old Sears kit homes do what I'm talking about, Like
you would look through the catalog and you pick your
Sears home. This is when I think it's like the
fifties and they would nail you this kit and you
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would just assemble the house. And so that's kind of
what ready Frame is. They take your plans, they optimize
them in their system, they cut all your boards for you,
they prepackaged them, and they ship them to your built
side along with all of your King's Jackson Stunns, and
then you just put it together like a big puzzle.
So there was like a binder like this thick with
every single wall in it, and you would look at
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the wall and you would see this is what I
need to build it. You'd pull your boards over and
you build your wall, and then you just kind of
put it all together like a big puzzle. And when
the truck pulled up the first day, I just remember
looking to my husband, like, what are we getting ourselves into? Oh?
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And we asked the guy, the guy from Ready Frame,
like the representative was they are to kind of get
us started, and we're like, okay, where do we start
and he's like, just pick a wall, any wall all.
And so we picked a wall, we started building, and
by my third wall, I was like I got this.
I could do this. And so we got the first
floor done and then while Daniel was like working on
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the other parts of it. I literally framed the entire
interior of stairs walls completely by myself, like I just
put I just simbled them all together and stacked him
against the wall. And then when they were ready, they
just grabbed them put him in place. So that wasn't. Yeah,
that was like, that wasn't for me. That was one
of the biggest undertakings that we did. That was like whoa.
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And once you realized you could do that, then you're like,
because I cannot even imagine the overwhelm that you must
have felt in that moment when the truck pulls up
and you're like wait, it's like I feel like that's
how I felt when I got my baby in the hospital.
I'm like, oh my gosh, wait, is someone not because
the nurse not coming home with me. I felt that way,
like they're sending me home with this saying what yeah,
someone not gonna come with me and tell me how
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to raise it? Like okay, great, it's fine, okay, But
like I back and I think it's like, oh my god,
here's all the truck with all the supplies, and now
like you are the one doing this. That that's huge.
Do you love to figure things out? Like are you purpose? Absolutely?
Do you like assembling and stuff like that? Absolutely? I
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love to look at life with a big puzzle and
you just gotta figure out all the pieces. You've got
such a great brain, like such an incredible like you're
the way that you like can can just accomplish and
see things like you really you were one of those
that could take over the whole world, like because you
could figure it and you do it with grace and style.
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Believe anybody can, Like I firdly believe that I promised
I was not taught or given anything that anyone else
was not. I firmly believe that with a YouTube video
and maybe I'm book, anybody can figure out anything and
then some confidence and just like you just have the
gust send to do it. Truly is and I like
joke we either have the cop it in because we're
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dumb or because we truly just have the confidence to
figure it out. And and you know it's for everyone.
Like I always say, it's time or money, You're gonna
spend one or the other. So you have to know
what in our life is realistic. Do we need to
spend the money on this project or is this something
that we can get in here and tackle. And I
do believe you know, I've seen so many d I
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wise gone wrong and people that just you know, haphazardly
do something, they don't follow code, all these different things.
So if you're gonna do it, do it right and
take the time to learn what is right. Look too resources,
find friends that like for our electrical we had acquaintance
come out and like walk us through it and pull
the permit for us and make sure that it was
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done right. As he was kind of guiding Daniel through
the process because Daniel had never wired for a whole
house before, so he he did it electoral cool without
ever doing it before for the whole feelings into our reason, yes,
but he leaned into someone that knew what they were doing,
that came over and took the time, and we paid him,
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Like we didn't not just pay him, we paid him like, hey,
you know what would you try to just too full
to permit and make sure we're doing this right. So
he come over and say, you know this means canna
be done or pick that or whatever, and helped us
make sure that it was done properly up to code.
So leaning into the resources to make sure that it's
done right is really really important too. Gosh, I just
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impressed with like how ballsy y'all are. Like You're just
like is your husband gonna hate? Is your husband gonna
hate me after this? Because you're gonna be like I
got this. No, I've never really been good at like anything.
D I y Like I feel like That's why I'm
so enamored by you, because I'm like, gosh, your brain
is fantastic. Like I wish that I was like so
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crafty and d I why ish like you? Like I
wish I could, but maybe I just need to like
retrain my brain. Do you have your own I don't
know that, but you have your own strength and the
all your own gifts that you bring to this world.
So just because that's something that I bring to the
world does not mean that has any different value than
what the amazing gifts you bring into the world. So
we each have our own voice, that our own story
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and our own purpose for being here, which is what
I tell people anytime when they're talking about like social
media or you know, showing up for this world. Is it?
Is it over? You know? The space is the two pool?
Is there not room for me? Like we each have
our own gifts, so you just have to lean into
those for you. And it doesn't mean you have to
go you know, watching YouTube video and go frame a house.
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I mean, but if you're Noel, you might y'all just
figure it all out, like, and any time there's something
that comes up in your life that you need to
get done, you are just like, I'm the man for
the job, and you'll figure it out. That's incredible, And
I think that's one thing that growing up in poverty
did teach me. It's if you wanted it done, you
had to figure it out. Like you weren't given there
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was nothing, like you didn't go to the malle in
my clothes. Like if you wanted something, you just owned it,
you know, so you figured it out. I saw actually
one of your posters and was You're like, do love
these big, chunky, amazing uh blaket? It's easy? Let me
show you how to make it. I'm like, no, Well,
you literally are blowing my mind. You're like, oh, you
just so it. It's not hard. Here, let me show
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you how you like this incredible comfy blaket. What can
this woman not do? Literally, and on top of it,
you're beautiful and a total dream. I mean literally, you
are just you're being too kind to me today. Oh
my goodness, well you are. I'm just so inspired by
like I said in the beginning, like the cards that
you're dealt and the way that you played them, Like
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I literally am so inspired and in all of how
you have played your cards for your hand at life,
because not everyone would play them the same way you did,
and a lot of people could probably feel like things
were unfair and not you know, it's it would have
been very easily upset with a lot of things and
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stay stuck in a certain place, and you haven't. You've
done nothing but thrived and pushed through it and figure
it out and grow. And you you went out there
and you saw the life that you wanted and you've
gotten it and you just have this beautiful open heart
and it's and truly it wasn't even um like a life.
I didn't I didn't know what it was I wanted.
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I didn't know. Yes, this is just like urge for
something different and p I would try to explain it
to people, you know, when I was like eighteen nineteen,
I'll try to explain it, and they just looked at
me like I was crazy. It was like everyeling just
that I was meant for more, Like there was something
in my life that didn't allow me to settle in
my tiny little town and you know Mary the boy
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up the street and lived next to my parents, like
and there, not that there's anything wrong with that at all,
but it was just something in my soul that wouldn't
let me rest and just drove me and pushed me
to do more. And you listen, yes, how do you listen?
How does it speak to you? Just following my intuition
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and my gut and just doing the things that I
feel I'm meant to do, and I think And now
at this point, you know, now that I'm this far
into my journey, I've seen it play out well so
many times that it's easier now to trust that the
right person, the right opportunity of the right thing is
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just going to come into my life. And I don't
struggle as much anymore with questioning myself and questioning my intuitions,
Like just something so simple, like for the past six months,
I've been telling my husband I needed somebody, I needed this,
and I described it. This elderly woman had a background
in education with free time that would just come into
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my home and love on my kids and help me
do their school, you know, kind of tutor them a
little bit. Um, just you give me a little bit
of a break three days a week so that I
feel because the actual human feel her inform already yes,
and infestivating houses down from me. This lady I finally
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got to. I don't know exactly when she moved in,
so I think a few months ago. Anyway, I just mutter,
she can't started coming to our house two weeks ago,
and I'm like, I don't mean to sound creepy or
anything that I've literally been describing you my husband first
six months. And I don't know how you just ended
up in my front, sitting here on my couch with me,
but I've I will do you into existence. So you're
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a mega manifest er. Oh yes, And I mean if
you would have told me it told me that when
I was younger, I think anyone in the religion I
grew up and would say that that's cuckoo and ridiculous.
And but I've seen it. I've seen it happen so
many times that whether it's just you know, my intuitions
feeding into what's gonna happen. I don't know, but at
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this point I'm not afraid say, you know what I
want from life and what I hoped it's gonna happen
because I want to to heart. You know, well when
it gets laid on your heart something like that, Like
when you have this very specific description and an elderly lady,
he's gonna have a background. Does she have a background education?
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She's from the man, She's from Texas, which anyone from
the like Midwald, That's not how hard because I come
there so like just every she has a music background,
so she's teaching a piano too, just like literally everything
I would have, everything I wanted. I'm like, but if
it's on your heart, you know, if it's literally on
your heart so intensely and you feel like called to it,
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it has to be from a higher place. That's how
I feel like every time I get those kind of feelings,
it's like because because I know that more, I'm made
for more and this is what it is, or more
is supposed to come into my life, but not for
gluttony or excess, because it's going to end, knows going
to enrich your life. It's going to add value. It's
going to add so much goodness to your life that
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you feel it. You know what it is, you know
what you need. Yes, this is not in any way
like a gluttony or like I want more, or you know,
like a monetariat. It is not like whatsoever. Have there
been financial blessings that have come along the path, absolutely,
but that to me is a total like unrelated thing
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like that I we when we lived in a camper
with our two little girls and literally couldn't hardly afford to,
I know, to swipe my debit card to the grocery store,
like please go through, please go through, please go through.
You know I would. We were just as happy then
as we are now, Like we would go back there
in a heartbeat. That that's not what brings us our
joy and our fulfillment and our contentment whatsoever. So definitely
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do not misinterpret that financial blessings are also from God,
like all when it's all in alignment, when it's in
alignment to like what your blueprint of your heart is
and what your higher calling is, like financial blessings like
you I used to feel like kind of not really,
but like the money was like you know, if you
have two money or whatever, like it's bad or if
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you want money, it's bad. That's not that's what we
were taught, right, And that's not the truth at all,
because it's all about like what you're doing with the money,
how are you're using the money, and like if you
have a beautiful house, if it brings you so much
peace and joy, so then you can bless others with
your life. It's like all of that is wonderful and good.
Absolutely yes. And I was taught the same way. Money
is bad. Anyone that has looks like they have money,
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they're calling credit card debt to their add balls like
it was money was an evil thing. And it took me,
you know, a good ten years of being around people
that have money and we're sharing their money to really
just change my mindset um of it being a positive thing,
because when you have money, you can bless others with
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your absolutely, yes, yes, absolutely, that's amazing man, Noel, you
are thank you for sharing your life. I just also,
do you know that you look like Kate Moss mixed
with jewel to me, like I can't like stop seeing it.
It's like you're of this. I have never heard Kate
Moss before I have heard Jewel. I used to get
Carrie Underwood all the time, and Kristin Chenowa, I get
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those three all the time, but I have never heard
before Christen a little bit. Yeah, it's like Kate Moss
mixed with Jewel. To me, I keep getting like this
back and forth. You're absolutely stunning inside and out. Really,
you're just a light to this world. Okay, so I'll
wrap up here in a second, but I do want
to talk about this camper situation. So you lived in
a camper for two years with your husband and daughters
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while y'all were building. This was after we first got married.
And this is back to just you know, m stepping
out in faith and doing things that the world not
like you're crazy, because you just feel there's something bigger
down the road. So when we first got married, this
was right after the recession, the Await recession, which hit
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here really really hard, and Daniel was working on people's
homes and at that point, people just weren't spending money
to upgrade things. Everyone you know, keeping their money tight.
And he would have like hundreds of thousands of dollars
and bids out and not our and our phone wouldn't ring,
and so it was like, okay, what do we do, like,
what do we do in this position to put ourselves
in the right place? So? Do you go get a job?
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Do I go get a job? Do we continue to
push toward this business? Like you know, what what can
we do here? And we said them with his dad,
who is a very wise man, and he suggested that, like,
why don't you guys move into a camper here? It'll
cut down your expenses, um, because you know, if you
can cut down your expenses, then you can cut down
on your income. And so we at first stand it
was like, hey, no, there's no way I am even
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into a camper and not having it um. But it
took me about a month to win him over to
this idea that I had, and we now say it
was truly one of the best decisions of our life.
So we bought a camper from a family friend who
owner financed at for us, and we paid three hundred
dollars a month parked it on his parents property. But
some people, well not everyone has parents, Like can parking
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on the property? No, but you can go in a trailer.
You know, they have like camper places like you can
get them for pretty tea whatever. Um, it's not totally impossible.
And for two years we've sold our vehicles, got one car.
I'd sit at home with the girls by myself, like
I had no wayer to go. I couldn't go anywhere.
I just sit there with them and do our school
and hang out. And you know, you'd think it would suck,
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but it didn't. It was a season of our lives
that we look back on with such joy and happiness.
And you know, we were newly married, so if you fought,
you couldn't, like, you know, go sleep on the coups.
You just had to kind of work it out because
you're like within ten feet of each other no matter
what you do. And at the end of the two years,
we sold the camper for I think, you know, the
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exact amount we had paid for or maybe a little
bit more to put it back in our accounts, you know,
like a savings account plus all those expenses we had
saved over those two years, and it was able to
propel us to the next stage of our lives, which
fast in you know, just felt like a little a
little step, um, but looking act, it was just you know,
heading towards something even bigger. You're willing to put in
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the work of the sacrifices for the bigger dream. I
love that. I love that about you. You're willing to
do the hard work. You take action. That's another thing
that you do, you and your husband. You take action.
You make big moves. You figure out what you need
to do, and you do what needs to get done.
You don't complain about it. You just make the decision,
and then you love the decision. Like you said, like,
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those were like two of the best years of your life.
Did you love getting to have that like intimate time
with your daughters to like, yes, When we moved to
the house after that, Ava, oh my god, she was
just you know, little at the time. She hated the
new house because she was so far from them at nighttime.
You know, I just wanted to come in our room
every night because in the camp where she was right there.
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It's so sweet. It's all about perspective, isn't it. It's truly,
it truly is, and just you know, wherever you're at
in life, having that right perspective of and just accepting
it and finding joy in the moment where you are.
And I know it can be so hard to find joy.
Sometimes when you're on the thick of it and the
thick of motherhood and the thick of finance, you know,
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financial issues, whatever, it can be so hard to find
that joy. But just taking a deep breath and realizing
that is what I tell my daughters all the time.
It's about, you know, anything they're struggling with is it's
a season. It's gonna pass, and you're gonna look back
and whish that you could be back at this point
in your life. So just savor it, find find the
good things that you can focus on, and don't let
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those negative things get you down. I love that last question.
I always wrap up, but leave your life. What do
you want people to know? It's very open ended. They
can achieve big dreams and no matter how far away
they may feel, or how far fetched or crazy other
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people may think, you are for those dreams if they're
you know, for the purpose and with the right heart,
like obviously not just you know, I'm gonna be have
a million dollars so I can selfishly just do whatever
the heck I want to, not worry about anybody else,
like you know, true legitimate, like right dreams, just believing
in yourself and taking steps in the direction to make
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those dreams come true. It may feel so far away,
but if you align yourself toward that and just take
little bitty steps, one day you wake up and you'll
look back and you'll realize that you've accomplished it, and
you know it may not it maybe bigger. It maybe
bigger than what you're like. When we have accomplished this,
theaters than anything I would have ender in a million
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years even thought to dream of. I don't even got
to dream of this. So you maybe further than you
thought you would get where you may not pipe be
there yet, but just putting yourself in that right direction,
trusting how do your faith, and finding joy and contentment
with where you are, because even if you get all
those things, if you haven't learned here to find joint contentment,
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you will not be happy there. You just won't be
because all the opportunities they don't make you happy. They
don't bring you joy. They don't like that very it's
very superficial. And they bring fun times, they may bring
cool experiences, but in your heart of heart, they don't
bring the thing that you're looking for. So if you
can learn to find that here, you will even appreciate
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it more when you end up over here. So wise, Noel,
you are amazing. Thank you so much for joining me today. Everyone,
you all need to go grab her book, Create your
Dream Home on a Budget. Seriously, this is the book
you need if you are doing house renovations. Okay, can
you tell us where to follow you and all the
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things that people need to know. We are just at
farmhouse on all platforms, very easy, amazing and I'm sure
y'all will be having a show coming out soon on
some network because if y'all don't, then I'm just gonna
be shocked because y'all are just be shocked because we
don't want Actually did you don't want your whole life recorded? Exactly? Actually?
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Like that? Like is that the truth? Like you really
don't have an opportunities? Yeah, because you are like the
perfect couple to do these home shows. You don't want
to do it? Why not? You know? We we love
what we have, We have the flexibility, we have the freedom,
We we love where we are. We don't want to
be told you know, when we can film and when
we can work, and and just the impact on our children,
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like being on social media already has negatives and I
feel like if you put it on an even bigger platform,
that would just you know, like we put under magnifying
glass and be even worse. So we honestly just love
what we have and are so content with it and
we have Note we we had this two years ago.
It was like a month on like company was like
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not an answer, and we took a month and really
just prayed about it and its soul searching and we
were like, this just isn't for us, So that should
not be happy anytime soon. Man, though, just that phrase
we of what we have to be content where you
are to truly have reached a place where you are like,
I am fully content and this is I don't want
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anything more like what and what a celebration. Seriously, it's
really huge. What a wonderful place to be in life,
no while, and you have earned it with all of
your decisions and all of your heart and all of
your hard work. I'm so happy for you in your life,
and I'm so happy for you that you have the
ability to have the discernment to not feel like you have.
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You know, some people feel like they have to just
keep getting more and more and more by the fact
that you can say no, I don't want that, I
don't More is not better, and all that you know
it's more does not mean it's better. That's absolutely not,
absolutely not. What an amazing place to be in in
your life and your mind and your mental health and
your family. I'm just so happy for you. Blessings to
you and your family and everything that you're doing. You're
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such a like to this world, and it was so
amazing to talk to you. Seriously, I am just I
think the pleasure has been all wine like true. Really,
I have really enjoyed this conversation and you have been
far too kind to me. But I hopefully your listeners
will enjoy this and walk away feeling and that they
can accomplish anything that's at those minds are mine too. Amen. Amen, Noel,
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thank you so much, and I thank you seeing you
out there in the big wide world somewhere. I love it.
Thank you so much. Thank you by Noel, Bye bye