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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie Podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today we are going full nostalgia.
I want to talk about the VHS tape, the most
expensive VHS tapes of all time, and the last movies
to ever be released on the video home system from
different genres. Again, nostalgia will be the death of me.
In the movie review, we'll be talking about together with
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Alison Brie and Dave Franco, It's a new horror movie.
And in the trailer Park we'll be talking about can
Pixar comeback with their new movie Hoppers or are they
destined to fail time and time again. Now, thank you
for being here, thank you for being subscribed, Shout out
to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's talk
movies from the Dustroe Podcast Network. This is Movie Mike
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Movie Podcast. The VHS Tape was developed in Japan and
released in nineteen seventy one. We got it here in
the United States in nineteen seventy seven, because we're always
a little bit behind Japan. They're always limiting in the future.
But it was dominant in the nineteen eighties, in the
nineteen nineties and fizzled out right around the mid two thousands.
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I just associate watching VHS tapes with my childhood. It
all goes back to I didn't have a whole lot
of friends when I was a kid. My friends were
the VHS tapes that I would borrow from family and
friends because again, unless we were buying them at a
garage sale or the flea market. All talk about my
favorite place to go as a kid, Traders Village in
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Grand Prairie, Texas. We were there every Sunday, and I
would always flock to all the people selling VHS tapes
because that was the only place that we could afford them.
We weren't affording those Walmart prices because they were overly priced,
and different movies had different prices. Obviously, a movie like
The Lion King was going to be more expensive, but
then a lower tier movie like the straight to VHS
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movies would be a little bit cheaper, like a goofy movie.
That's why that movie was so accessible is because they
didn't price that the same as they were pricing a
Lion King. They priced a little bit cheaper so people
like me would have access to it. And I love
going to Traders Village and going to the people who
were selling used VHS tapes, and I would watch those
movies all the time at home. I also associate the
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VHS tape with the best day ever at school and
what day was that? It was movie day. And kids
today don't have this. They have no idea the joy
that you would get when your teacher would haul in
that giant tube television and it was the combo rack
where you have the huge TV on top and the
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thing was shrapped down. It was on there much like
you would shrap down cargo now in the back of
your F one fifty. That is what we were doing
to these giant Zena TVs or whatever brand your school had,
probably like a Phillips or something, but they were huge
and massive. If they were fancy, you'd have the combo
that on the left side of it had the VHS
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and on the right it would have the DVD slide,
but that was like a low way. Later oftentimes it'd
be the big TV on top, and then there'd be
a middle shelf below it and that where the VHS
tape would be, well the VCR, and your teacher would
roll that thing in and you were probably set up
to watch whatever Disney movie was out, even if it
was like a really old bad movie, which is where
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I was exposed to some classics. Like the first time
I ever watched The Sound of Music was in my
elementary school music class, so I got that too. So
shout out to the Wakasati Independent School District for really
helping me shape my taste in movies early on. But
I truly believe there's something to actually having physical media
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and having to put something into a device to play it.
Like this sound just brings back a lot of memories
for me, and we don't have that anymore because we
just open up a streaming service and hit play. There's
no rewinding, there's no tracking, there's no having like kind
of okay picture quality, and there's also just kind of
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a warmth to watching a movie on a VHS tape.
It kind of has like this warm, fuzzy feel and
now it just feels like you're thrown on a file,
which is all fun because it's so much easier. So
they could take that away at any time, but they
can't take away your physical media. So let's get into
this list. It's coming to us from CGC, which is
a grading company. So if you have comic books. If
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you have sports cards or memorabilia, you send it to
them to be graded, which I've learned about them through
some comics that I own. If you watch this show
on YouTube, you can see I have a couple of
graded comics on my wall, and you see that CGC
at the top, letting you know that is legit, that
somebody looked at it verified it. They verified the condition.
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So you send it in and you get a grade number,
whether it's all. You very rarely get a ten, but
you probably get maybe a nine point nine and nine
point five. And depending on how highly it is rated,
that is how much you can sell that thing for
and how much it is valued at. And again these
are sealed copies. They have to be in pristine condition.
These are the most expensive ones that have ever been graded.
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At number ten is The Return of the Dead, a
sealed copy sold on this list at eighteen thousand, seven
hundred and fifty dollars. Obviously, this movie was very essential
in the eighties for zombie movies. Not one of my
favorite zombie movies of all time. When it comes to
who I like from the early era of zombie movies,
I'm more of a George a Romero guy from the
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nineteen seventies. But if you can get your hands on
a sealed copy of this one, it is eighteen thousand,
seven hundred and fifty dollars in your pocket. At number
nine is First Blood, which had a graded copy valued
at twenty two thousand, five hundred dollars. A sealed copy
of this VHS sold for that price added auction in
twenty twenty two. This is a movie I associate with
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my childhood because it's one of the only ones that
my dad and uncles could agree on. This movie came
out in nineteen eighty two, so anything in that genre
that is Sylvester Stallone or John Claudevaden dam I feel
like I watched without even trying as a kid, because
anytime I would go over to my uncle's house, that
is what they were watching. Because at that time my
family was still learning English, and the way we learned
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English was by watching movies. So with a movie like this,
you don't really have to know the language one hundred
percent to get what is happening. If you see a
dude like Sylvester Stallone on screen with a gun shooting
down people and running and chasing from people and trying
to kill people. You don't exactly need to know that
language to understand that concept. So I think that is
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why a lot of my uncles, even my aunts for
that matter, gravitated towards movies like this. They were also
just massive in the eighties, and a lot of what
I was exposed to in the early nineties was a
lot of things that were kind of left over in
remnants of the eighties. Because I have two older siblings
who would be considered an eighties kids, so a lot
of the things that were essential in their early childhood
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I learned from them. One of those being first Blood.
At number eight is Ghostbusters, that had a copy cell
for twenty three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars. The
wild thing about Ghostbusters whenever it was first released on
VHS back in the eighties, it's sold retail for seventy
nine to ninety five, And I think we forget that
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sometimes how expensive movies were, because that was the thing
whenever TV came around, and then whenever VHS came around,
it was like, oh, now you can watch it at home.
We have to charge a lot of money for this,
And at first they were not as accessible as they
later became. When you could just go to Blockbuster or
just buy a copy at Walmart, it was seen as
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kind of a luxury, as you see with Ghostbusters being
eighty dollars. And now when we rent a movie digitally
at home for twenty dollars, I can't even do that
because that's like the first run. Whenever a movie finishes
its theatrical run and then you can own it on
digital for the first time, it's usually twenty bucks. I
usually end up waiting until it's like that five six,
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seven dollars range, and then I feel like most people
now wait until it's on a streaming service that you
already pay for. But could you imagine going to the
store now to pay eighty dollars just to watch something
at home. So that is also how we've seen a
shift in the movie industry where they could make money
like this, and a lot of films did see a
second life from these home video sales because if a
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movie didn't do so well at the box office, but
then Bam was a hit on VHS tape, it could
make its money back. Movies now do not have that benefit.
You can't really make that money back on streaming, because
in the era of streaming, that throws residuals out of
the way, that cuts off a lot of that back
end money. But this is a case where not only
was Ghostbusters super successful in theaters, I think it made
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almost three hundred million dollars by the end of its
theatrical run, and then Bam with a eighty dollars VHS
and then later in twenty twenty two selling a copy
for twenty three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars. This
is gonna have me by the end of this list,
going to a good will and see if I can
just find a sealed copy of anything, But that one
is at number eight. At number seven, a copy of
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Rocky sold for a record twenty seven thousand, five hundred dollars.
This was back in February seventeenth, twenty twenty three. This
was one of the only known factory sealed copies of Rocky.
And that's the thing you have to do now, if
you want to make some money like this in twenty
to thirty years, you have to think what could be
of value now sealed that I could go back in
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thirty years and take to somebody or put it online.
At one of these auctions and sell, and you just
have to buy that thing and have the willpower not
to open it. Because if you in the eighties went
and bought this copy of Rocky and just kept it
in a box anytime you moved houses, you made sure
you took that, you'd have an easy almost thirty grand
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that is crazy. Next up on the list at number six,
a copy of The Terminator, So for thirty two thousand,
five hundred dollars back in February twenty twenty two, you're
going to see a lot of this stuff happened recently
because post COVID memorabilia just kind of shot up. Everybody
realized they had stuff at home, and we got more
nostalgeric thinking back on good times. This this is now
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would be the time to sell if you had anything
thirty or forty years old, But again it has to
be sealed. Terminator was released not only on VHS but
also on Beta Max in nineteen eighty five, which I
don't really remember that era. I remember Laser Disc a
little bit only because I went to a school district
that was, you know, not the richest of school districts,
so we never watched anything on beta or laser disc,
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but I did see them because it was so old
that some people still had them available. I think one
teacher was like, let me pull out this huge disc
and like, what is that? That is a giant CD.
And whenever Terminator first came out back in nineteen eighty four,
they did not think this movie would be successful, but
it went on to be a number one movie at
the box office, made almost eighty million dollars worldwide, and
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then somebody made a lot of money off of it
in twenty twenty two by selling their sealed copy for
thirty two thousand, five hundred dollars, getting into the top five.
Next up is Jaws. A sealed copy from nineteen eighty
three sold for thirty two thousand, five hundred dollars in
a heritage auction sale on June ninth, twenty twenty two.
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This movie just celebrated its fifty year anniversary. It was
the first ever summer blockbuster. The whole reason we have
big movies come out in the summer like we do
now is because what Steven Spielberg did with Jaws fifty
years ago, and since then, it's become my favorite season
of the entire year. This season, in particular for twenty
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twenty five, has been a fantastic summer blockbuster season, and
despite everybody loving Jaws, it had great critical response. Jaws
almost bankrupt Steven Spielberg and his entire crew. The film
went massively over budget because of the filming issues, because
of the props, but luckily it all worked out. Why
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because of the back end, because of these VHS sales.
Because the movie didn't come out on VHS until nineteen
eighty MCA Home Video put it out so that we
could finally enjoy this movie at home, because that wasn't
a thing. Also, back in when movies were coming out
in the seventies, you couldn't go watch a movie in
the theater and then eventually in like six months have
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it at home. You had to wait three years to
watch the Jaws at home. And because of that, Jaws
has now ended up as one of the top five
most expensive VHS tapes of all time at number four.
The Thing, not the Thing from Fantastic Four, No, the
John Carpenter movie The Thing. It sold a sealed first
edition copy of the nineteen eighty two movie on October
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thirty first, twenty twenty two, for whopping thirty seven thousand,
five hundred dollars. The Thing was not a success when
it came out in theaters. But the thing No pun
intended that gave it its second live was its home
video release. And that's what shows you that sometimes when
people go see a movie in theaters, they can hate it.
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But then when it's released to everybody who can watch
it at home, maybe you have some people a little
bit more open minded, maybe they're in a better headspace
so when they sit down to watch this movie. So
initially this movie was a bomb and now has turned
into a cult classic, which has happened with a lot
of movies. Just because you don't do well in theaters,
you can find your audience somehow, because sometimes movies are
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just released at the wrong time, or they're put in
a position to fail where they don't have the promotion,
or they go up against another really big movie. And
the Thing now is a classic and a copyfore it's
sold for a record amount of money at number three.
Hey you guys, we have the goodies. A sealed and
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certified copy of this movie from nineteen eighty six sold
for fifty thousand dollars in a heritage auctions on June ninth,
twenty twenty two. They must have just had a massive
sale in twenty twenty two. This movie goes beyond classic.
If you told me The Goonies was your favorite movie
of all time, I just know we be good friends.
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It's not my favorite of all time. I don't even
know that I would put it in my top ten.
But if you love this movie, I probably love you
because it's just a piece of American history, so much
so that the Library of Congress preserved this movie in
the United States Film Registry in twenty seventeen. And that's
like the biggest honor. Only movies in there that have
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really just etched themselves into American film history belong there.
And that means maybe nothing on surface level, but that
means kind of if everything else went away, we lost
all other movies, but could only hold onto the movies
in this registry. That is how impactful these movies would be.
That would be like if we had to leave Earth
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and only take a certain amount of movies with us,
we would take the movies in this registry to show
how our culture has evolved over the years in film,
and The Goonies has it all. It has action, it
has adventure, it has romance, it has great characters, it
has great music. Could easily make the argument that the
Goonies and the movie coming up at number two are
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just perfect movies. And if Aliens came down and said
show me your best movie, I would say, maybe start
with the Goonies, or maybe start with number two. Because
at number two, which sold for seventy five thousand dollars
at an auction back in twenty twenty two, again it
was a sealed and graded copy of this movie It
is Back to the Future Man seventy five thousand dollars.
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That is a lot of money for a VHS tape.
Just imagine the pressure. I know CGC puts them in cases,
but just the pressure to even grade something like that
where you're like, okay, even if I make because you
know how hard it is to keep shrink wrap on something,
especially VHS where it has like the corners, it has
to be perfect. But this movie was not only a
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success in theaters because it made over three hundred and
eighty million dollars at the box office, it was also
so successful when it came out on VHS in nineteen
eighty six. This was another movie that costs seventy nine
to ninety five whenever it came out, which is one
of the more higher priced video cassettes. But even though
it had such a high price point, Back to the
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Future became the first movie to sell four thousand, five
hundred units almost half a million units at that price point,
and became the most rented cassette in nineteen eighty six.
Why do I just love the word cassette? It just
feels good to me. So not only was it super
successful and popular when it came out in theaters, but
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then everybody had to own it and watch it at home.
At number two is Back to the Future, but at
number one the most expensive VHS tape of all time
sold back in October twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, when
somebody found a sealed copy of the first release of
this movie, which is next to impossible. It was sold
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through Golden for an incredible one one hundred and fourteen
thousand dollars, the most expensive VHS tape of all time.
What do you think it is? At? Sci Fi originally
came out in theaters in nineteen seventy seven, grossed over
seven hundred and seventy five million dollars at the box office.
Can you guess it? Well, it is none other than
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Star Wars, a new hope. The unusual thing about Star
Wars is it didn't have a traditional rollout to home
video because twentieth Century Fox actually delayed putting it out
on VHS because they wanted to make more money from
it in theaters. They were also concerned about the technology
at the time. They were like, should we focus more
on laser disc? Is this going to be what the
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future is? So what they did instead was released small
clips through weird media products. They didn't have a traditional
VHS release because they were holding out on it, but
everybody was like, yo, we want to watch Star Wars
at home. So they finally released it in nineteen eighty one,
but it was only available for you couldn't buy it yet.
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Obviously that caused chaos because then people would go rent it.
They wouldn't take it back. You had video rental places
going rogue and just selling people a lifetime rental for
one hundred dollars. So it just created this huge mess
where people were stealing copies, pirting copies, they were going missing.
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And finally they had an official release to Star Wars
on VHS in nineteen eighty two, and people ate this
thing up. And if you had a seal copy like
this person who sold it back in twenty twenty two,
and if it's in mint condition, but you could make
one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars the most expensive VHS
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of all time. Star Wars a New Hope. So now
to close out the episode, let's say goodbye to the
VHS format and talk about the last ever VHS movie released.
It was in two thousand and six. The VHS was
officially dead when A History of Violence came out. Vigo
Mortensen plays an ex hitman turned quiet town family man.
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The movie also stars Ed Harris in one of his
more sinister bad guy roles. It was the last ever
major Hollywood movie to be released in VHS format, even
though some Disney enthusiasts say that it was actually the
Disney Pixar movie Cars, because in February of two thousand
and seven, Disney released a copy, but it was only
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through their Disney Movie Club, so it wasn't available for
everybody to purchase. But if you're going technically by a technicality, Cars,
mister Kachow was the real ever last VHS tape made
came out in two thousand and seven. I also have
some of the last movies released on VHS from different genres.
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For horror, it was Saw Too Man. Sometimes when I
think about Saw watching that first one, I think, Man,
that was only like ten years ago. But the first
one came out in two thousand and four and came
out in two thousand and five, twenty years ago. But
that was the last ever major horror movie to be
released on VHS tape. For comedy, it was Just Friends,
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which was the movie with Ryan Reynolds, which I remember
this being one of the movies we rented from our
local video rental store in Waksahatchie. I think it was
just called the Video Store, but we didn't rent it
on VHS. We rented it on DVD. This place was
so old school. You would walk up and take this
little almost like a mini poker chip or is this
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mini tab that was hung up on the wall on
literally a hook, and you would take that tab up
to the counter and then they would pull that movie.
And I remember doing that for Just Friends, which is
the comedy with Ryan Reynolds, back in a pretty good
era of comedies. But he gets friend zoned and he's
like a bigger dude and then gets ripped up. I mean,
it was Ryan Reynolds in a fat suit, and I
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believe he had braces, which I find a fence from
on multiple levels as being a former big guy and
a person who wore braces for a very long time.
Probably couldn't make this movie today, but at the time
I enjoyed it. He tries to get back with his
high school crush and then he has his new girl,
who was played by Anna Faris. Somehow this movie makes
sense as the last one to be released in the
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comedy genre on VHS. The last war movie released on
VHS was Jarhead. This was a movie that I should
not have watched as young as I did. I was
probably thirteen, maybe twelve years old whenever I watched Jarhead,
a movie that really doesn't have a whole lot of action.
It's more about the psychological scars of war, so I
probably didn't even get it as a kid. The last
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drama romance released on VHS was Pride and Prejudice with
Kiara Knightley. This was a movie that we read the
book in probably middle school, maybe junior high, and then
watched the movie, So this was definitely a movie day
type film. If there was ever a book turned into
a movie, that was definitely happening. We were gonna read
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it and we were gonna watch that movie. The last
sci fi action movie released on VHS was Dwayne the
Rock Johnson's Doom, and this was in February two thousand
and six. I never played the video games, so I
didn't really have a whole lot of attachment to this movie.
It just seems like one of those in the list
of mid movies that the Rock did in the two
thousands before he really found this groove, before he really
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became a famous action star. The last adventure movie released
on VHS was The Legend of Zoro, and the last
superhero movie to be released on VHS. This is a
good one. Fantastic four in two thousand and five, and
we got a Fantastic four movie in two thousand and five,
we got one in twenty fifteen, and we just got
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one last month in twenty twenty five. So pretty much
every ten years we get a new Fantastic Four movie.
And I'll leave you with this. My favorite thing from
back in the day of watching a movie on VHS.
It really goes back to watching Disney movies. I think
that is what I watched the most, and it was
whenever all of the trailers play it and they're like, oh,
come on, I gotta fast forward through all of these,
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which is something we don't have to deal with anymore now.
Our equivalent of that if you watch on a streaming
service and you don't pay for the act free version,
you have to sit through commercials, but you watch all
the trailers and then Disney finally hits you with this,
and it just feels magical because you know the show
is about a start, and no all our feature presentation.
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Take me back for just one day. I'd do it
all different. I'd watch way more movies. All right, we'll
come back and give a spoiler free movie review of Together.
Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review
of Together, starring real life married couple Alison Brie and
Dave Franco. I'm actually a fan of both of these actors.
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Alison Bree since way back in Community. She was also
really great and glowed. Dave Franco, have been watching him
since super Bad, also great in twenty one Jump Street.
A lot of great twenty tens comedy movies from Dave Franco.
But what this movie is about. They play a couple
who has been together for about ten years. He is
an aspiring musician has been trying ever since they've been
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together to make it big, but he just quite hasn't
gotten there, just got dropped from his label. She just
got a job as a small town school teacher. So
they are moving away from the big city upstate New York.
He's kind of leaving behind his dreams. They've been kind
of on the fringes of their relationship, not really connecting
emotionally or connecting physically, and they're almost hoping that this
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move is going to save everything. But again, he just
feels like I got a hold on to this career
that I'm building, and she just wants to move on
and be with him. So that is kind of the
premise of this movie. They moved to a small town
where it seems like everything is quiet and comfortable. It's
out in the country. The small town vibe is really
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showcasing the cinematography. I love a good aerial shot of
some trees that really kind of puts you into a
small town horror movie like this and you just get
this really grand scope that I was a fan of.
There were a lot of really great shots that were
just establishing all the scenes in this movie, a lot
of big zoomed in moments, especially from like behind them.
It just kind of gave me feeling of like a
classic horror movie, which is really what this movie is
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at its core. It is a body horror movie because, well,
you see it in the poster, you see it in
the trailer. They encounter something that has this weird curse,
and then their bodies just kind of keep sticking to
each other, so it becomes the ultimate thing to bring
them together and they try to uncover exactly what is
going on with their bodies and why each of them
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are starting to go crazy. Which this movie sounded like
it was going to be right up my alley, especially
coming off of one of the best body horror movies
of all time last year with The Substance. I wanted
more of that. I wanted gruesomeness on the poster they
put Horror Movie of the Year, So my expectations were
way up there, wanting it to be on the level
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of something like The Substance, and I didn't quite get
that I really believe this movie stood in its way
so much, and they were really trying to paint this
backstory in this mystery read all that was kind of
hidden in this town and going on. They even opened
up with that that I felt like it was a
detriment to the movie because they kept over explaining things,
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which I believe Alison Brie and Dave Franco do have
great chemistry, obviously being married. I think both of them
are good actors, but it almost felt like some of
the dialogue was so forced and their characters were being
a little bit too analytical at times, trying to just
paint this backstory where I just wanted them to experience
these things and show us more of that gruesomeness, because
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that is exactly what was just lacking in this movie,
more of those moments that were supposed to churn your stomach.
I wanted to leave this movie disgusted, and I did not.
I got something different, though, and I don't think that
is bad. I got a story about two people trying
to navigate these waters where one of them really wants
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to make this relationship work, and question are they really
doing the right thing and exactly what are they fighting
for if you've invested ten year in a relationship, is
it only worth keeping because you've invested those ten years
If you were trying just so hard to make things
work and forcing it, do you really love the other
person or are you just comfortable? Because this movie is
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about a couple who maybe shouldn't be together, forced to
come together. So I think the overall metaphor and overarching
message of what they were trying to say, they got
that through. But it's a horror movie, and I wanted
more of the horror elements because that is great. I
think to make a horror movie that has a little
bit more substance, I'm all here for it because I
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enjoyed both of these characters. I thought what they were
going through was really interesting, maybe even relatable to some people.
It just never really reached its full potential. And the
horror imagery was fantastic when it was there, but to me,
it was just few and far between. So for me,
this was a case of a movie that overpromised and underdelivered,
and I wouldn't be holding it to that high of
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a standard if they did. Put that at the very
top of the poster. If you call yourself horror movie
of the year, and you use that quote. A lot
of movies have done that in the last couple of years.
I think Long Legs did it last year. Long Legs
lived up to that potential now that I think about it.
They're both neon movies, so maybe they just get any
review that calls them horror movie of the year. That's
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what I just got to start saying in my reviews,
horror movie of the year. I'll say that for every
horror movie. Maybe that's what I need to do to
get my reviews picked up, because oftentimes I call movies
butt drenching that are really stressful. But I don't think
movies to do is I want to put that on
their posters. Although I would have known what I was
getting into more if I would have seen together butt
drenching Movie of the Year, as heard on Movie Mike's
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Movie podcast. Put that on a poster. And I do
still love Alison Bria Dave Franco. I think they should
do more movies together. They have worked together in films
in the past. I think there's an entirely different level
of chemistry when it's two people who have been together
and married for so long that that just comes across
so natural. So even though their characters in this movie
kind of have conflicting feelings about each other, you can
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still tell how much chemistry they have together naturally, and
that really sold this story. I'm all for horror movies
with the message, but you also have to deliver on
the elements of horror. So for Together, I give it
three point five out of five Bus Saws because as
soon as I left the theater, I thought, I have
never seen a more three point five out of five
movie because it was so close there it Maybe just
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a couple of more scenes could have made me love
this movie and reached that four. Because to me, a
four I have to love parts of it and then
maybe not like some other parts. Four point five is
I really love a lot of it, but there are
just a couple of things that keep me from fully
committing to a five. A three point five is like
there was just nothing about it that I completely loved.
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I was so close to being there, but still so strong.
I've never met a more three point five out of
five movie than Together. It's time to head down to movie.
Mike Treylar, Paul is Pixar cook or is there something
else going on here? Is it a lack of originality?
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Are we tired of the same animation style? Is there
new movie? Hoppers gonna be the one to get them
back on top? That is what we are here to
talk about today. Hoppers is coming out in theaters on
March twenty six, twenty twenty six. You have Bobby moynihan,
John Hamm among this cast. What this movie is about.
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It's about a group of scientists who discover a way
to mind hop into robot animal bodies. So essentially they
are able to take your mind, or your consciousness at least,
and put it into a very cute, cuddly creature, and
then that creature can go out into the world and
not only interact with these animals, but be able to
speak their languages. I think this is something we probably
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all thought of as kids, and I think that is
what Pixar is good about doing. At least they were
early on of creating ideas like what if you could
do this? What if toys had feelings? What if cars
had feelings? And obviously Disney and Pixar are no strangers
to animal movies, but what if humans could go into
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these bodies and interact with other animals. So that is
what we are here to talk about. We'll get into
what Pixar has been doing so far in the twenty twenties.
I have a theory on who the bad guy is here.
But before we get into that, here's just a little
bit of the Hoppers trailer. We've done it, Mabel, after
years of work. This revolutionary technology gives us unprecedented access
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to the animal world. We put this into this. So
let me get this straight. You created a fake animal, yes,
which makes the other animals think you're an animals. Yes, guys,
this is like Avatar. This is nothing like Avatar. Be careful.
What hey, how you do? I understand you? So this
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got me there. So this movie is about a character
named Mabel. She finds out that this construction company wants
to tear down this local animal habitat, so she uses
this technology to take over the body of a beaver
in order to fight back. So Mabel is a huge
animal lover and wants to use technology to place her
consciousness into this robotic beaver to uncover the mysteries within
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the animal world and beyond her imagination. So what you
see in the trailer is she realizes she's a beaver.
I love the shot of the beaver running and everything
else kind of going frantic behind her. It feels a
little bit fresh for Pixar, and aside from the humans,
which I think Pixar humans are always gonna look like
Pixar humans, and I think that is just there. This
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is our animation style, this is what characters look like
in a Pixar world. You're not really going to change
a whole lot there, because if you do, then it
doesn't feel like Pixar. But when it comes to the
animals here, they look fantastic. The fur on the bear,
the fur on the beavers looks so lifelike. And sometimes
Pixar isn't as photorealistic as other animated movies. But I
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think the animation team crushed it here because I feel
like I could jump into this trailer and touch all
of these animal creatures and they would be as soft
as they look on screen. So I think that is
a big win here, because I think something that people
have been criticizing in these Pixar movies lately is the
animation just kind of all looks the same. And I
do think there are some factors here because a lot
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of Pixar animators all went to a very famous art
school called cal Arts. If you've listened to the episode
I did with the creator of Lee Low and Stitch,
Chris Sanders, he went there, he met a lot of
other famous people, or at least people who went on
to be famous, and they all learned this cal Arts
animation style that is very specific. It's very simplistic. I
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would say the best example of that are recent movies
like Luca and Turning Red, which some people think has
just kind of simplified the character design and has maybe
created a little bit too of a unified look where
none of these movies look as exciting. They look more
like Disney Plus originals, and they look like something you
would want to pay money to go see in theaters.
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If you don't have a great character design or a
boarding character design that doesn't translate into other sales that
you need for animated movies, it doesn't make people want
to buy a popcorn bucket, a big old cup in
the movie theater, or even beyond that, the toys at
Target and Walmart and t shirts. If you just have
very unmemorable characters that kids aren't really good to attach
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themselves to, or even adults aren't going to attach themselves
to And I think that is another issue here. But
is it the animation style, is it Pixar or is
it the overarching company of Disney? And I think we
forgot that. Disney acquired Pixar beat on May fifth, two
thousand and six. Pixar at the time was valued at
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seven point four billion dollars. The deal made Steve Jobs,
who he didn't start Pixar, but he did acquire Pixar
back in nineteen eighty six. In two thousand and six,
it made him the largest individual shareholder, and that's where
he made a lot of his money. But if I
were to make a movie about the downfall of Pixar
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in the twenty twenties, and if I was going to
have a place of villain, I think it would be Disney,
not only with Pixar, but also with what we're seeing
with Marvel, where I feel like they're less focused on
making things that are dynamic, unique and creative and out
of the box and more focused on just things that
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are going to make them money, which I get. Movies
are a business. That is what they are in the
business of doing, putting out big blockbuster hits that translate
into ticket sales, translate into merch sales, but most importantly
into people wanting to visit Disney in California and Florida,
which is a major thing. Sometimes we forget that as
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people who love movies, that they can oftentimes just be
commercials for their Disney properties. If we look at all
the Pixar and Disney movies they put out since twenty twenty,
which obviously the pandemic is going to throw a lot
of things off here, they have been very unmemorable. Onward
came out on March six, twenty twenty. That was the
last movie in theaters I ever saw that year. Soul
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came out in December of that year, but it was
a Disney Plus only release, and then the next year,
this is where they really started to shift and started
just putting things out on Disney Plus. But I feel
like this is where their originality just really started to lack,
and that war on us as Disney and Pixar fans.
Luca came out in twenty twenty one Disney Plus only.
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I will say I did enjoy Luca, and I think
the animation style was specific to telling a story like that.
I think it fit, but overall, when you look at
the characters and look at the animation design, it's not
as bright and vibrant as some of the other things
inside of the Pixar world. Turning Red was also a
good movie that came out in twenty twenty two, also
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just on Disney Plus and then later they tried to
push it out in the theaters. Also a great story,
but I think the animation was just fine, and just
fine was not good enough to make that movie a hit.
Light Year came out in June of twenty twenty two,
which there was a whole other reason that people were
upset about this movie. I think that maybe was a
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little bit too ambitious, but again, they weren't trying anything
completely original. They were just trying to make a standalone
movie still in that toy story world. I just don't
think light Year was probably the best person to make
that with. They should have made a woody movie that
would have crushed. It would have made people happy. It
would have been less of them having to explain why
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he's not voiced by Tim Allen, why it's not about
the toy, why it's actually about the person that inspired
the toy. It was all just confusing for people. But
that movie did not do well for them. Elemental again
was just a middle of the road movie, and that
one just didn't really have a lot of hype going
into it. The story was fine, and fine again is
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not good enough. I think some people unfairly maybe didn't
watch that movie or just didn't even know when it
came out. Did much better when it went to Disney
Plus than it did in theaters, But I think overall
that story was just fine at best. Inside out too,
that's kind of a no brainer, going back to their
pool of great movies from the twenty tens, that movie
did well. Was a billion dollar movie for them. And
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the sad thing is to some people who say they
want to see new original ideas and then they put
out a sequel to a very beloved movie, then they're like, Okay,
we're not going to get another original for a while,
because whenever they make sequels, that's when they're making all
their money. And then Elio came out earlier this year
in June. Its numbers were pretty dismal, and that'll probably
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come out on Disney Plus probably towards the end of September,
even though they haven't announced that yet. But if you
look at all these movies, you start to see a theme.
And yes, the pandemic throws off the twenty twenty year,
the twenty twenty one year a little bit, but that
bled into twenty twenty two. But what I see is
not what made Picksar so memorable in the beginning. If
you think back to the first Toy Story movie, you
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think back to A Bugs Life, you think back to
the first Cards movie, which was right around the time
that Disney bought them, Monsters Inc. Finding Nemo, the Incredibles.
All of these movies had great stories, great character designs
that all look different from each other. But what does
Disney like to do. They like to make things that
feel like they're all a part of the same brand.
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They all have this synergy. So now everything since twenty
twenty has started to look the same. Out of all
those movies I mentioned there from the twenty twenties, they
all look like they could be made by the exact
same team, by the exact same people, And I think
that makes a animated movies seem interesting. And then you
see on the other side of animation, with movies like
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Transformers One, the New Teenage Mutant, Ninja Turtles animated movie
into the Spider Verse, where they're being so much more
ambitious with their animation. As you can tell, I love animation,
and I feel like out of all styles of filmmaking,
there is a whole other world that we can explore here,
because I feel that it is a world where there's
so much room for creativity. We haven't seen the best
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animated movie yet. I think we should be getting the
best animated movies right now in the twenty twenties, and
I just haven't seen that because they're relying on their
properties at work. We're going to get a Toy Story five, six, seven, eight, nine,
and ten because they continue to do well and we
still are curious about those movies. I'll still go end
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up seeing those movies, but we're not going to get
anything completely different as long as Disney says, these are
the movies we need to make and this is what
they need to look like, and we're gonna put out
movies like Ilio, not really market it a whole lot,
not really give it a fighting chance, and then use
that as an example of Look, we tried to give
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you an original movie, but you didn't go support it.
So here you go, here's Car sixty seven, and what
do you know? We lost Nemo again and we have
to find him for the sixteenth time. Is there a
solution here? I don't think so. I think we support
the things we want to support. I'm never gonna tell
anybody how to spend your money when it comes to
watching things in theaters. Go watch the things you want
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to watch, but just know that your money carries a
lot of way to it in the decision making of
what gets greenlit, what continues to have SEQL after sequel,
and what movies and ideas they deem aren't worth the
time or money. But that being said, I do think
Hoppers is a step in the right direction. I think
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the story is interesting, and even though there's not one
character I think will be the new poster child for Pixar.
I do think it's gonna give people a reason to
go into the theater and not feel like you could
just wait and go and watch it on Disney Plus
whenever it is about three or four months old. And finally,
just because I've been rattling off all of my passionate
thoughts about animation, I did wonder if I could put
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my brain into an animal like this and then go
live in their habitat be able to speak to them.
I don't want no funny business though. That was the
one problem I had with picking this animal, because animals,
well they're animals. They're to do things that you don't
want them to do, whether you do it or not,
So no funny business involved. I would want to be
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my favorite animal of all time on Orca. I've loved
orcas ever since I was a kid. I still want
to go well watching up in Seattle, the Pacific Northwest.
I think that would be amazing just to be able
to see an orca in the wild, not at SeaWorld,
even though that is where my love of these animals
did develop. SeaWorld not a great place for them. Ever
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since I saw Blackfish, I was like, I can't support
the place. That documentary did change me a lot. But
I've also seen a lot of other great documentaries about
orcas that do give me hope, and that also just
show you how smart a animals they are, Like they
mourn they're dead, and they're just incredibly resourceful. Even that
one summer where they were crashing boats and terrorizing some humans,
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I was still team Orca because I was like, humans
had to have done something wrong. Somebody killed an orca
and they wanted vengeance. Number two would probably be an owl,
just because I feel like they're very majestic. I identify a
lot with them being nocturnal. Misunderstood. I didn't get attacked
by one a couple of years ago on a run
because I was out very early in the morning. I
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was wearing a white hat, so I was convinced they
thought I was a rabbit or something. And again, I
love owl so much, I'll put that blame on me.
And number three would definitely be a cat, because like cats,
I am very independent. I will come to you only
when I need a little bit of love. I may
bite you, I may scratch you. Ultimately, I do love you,
even though I probably don't say it every day. Bonus
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points for being able to lock myself. But again, Hoppers
is coming out in theaters on March sixth, twenty twenty six. Geez,
And that was this week's edition of Movie Lin Tramer
Bar and that is gonna do it for another episode
here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta
give my listeners shout out of the week. This week,
I'm going over to X and shouting out Melody Smith,
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who commented on a post I made about last week's episode.
Kelsey and I talked about Project Hail Mary. She read
it for her book club, has now gone and watched
the trailer in full and looking forward to that movie
coming out next March. Melody said, I highly recommend listening
to Project Hail Mary. The audio version is great. Melody,
I never even thought of that, And to be honest,
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I've never listened to a book on audiobook. I don't
know why. My brother is super into listening to biographies
and he tells me about it all the time. I
guess may maybe it's a time thing for me, because
when I see that a book is like sixty eight
hours on an audio book, I don't know if I
could bring myself to listen to it. And also sometimes
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when I listen to things, I tend to zone out,
so I feel like I would kind of forget things.
If I were going on a long road trip, I
would definitely do that, because I do enjoy listening to
a bunch of podcasts. When I do that, and I
really allow myself to get into that world, and that
is where I do my best listening but Melody, I
do think that's an interesting thing. But I'm really going
to push myself to read that book because I am
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determined to read and finish a book and go see
that movie in theaters. That is my goal. But Melody,
I appreciate looking out. If it gets grim there and
I think I'm not going to be able to finish
this book, we're getting closer to that movie coming out
in theaters, I'm like, all right, I got to speed
this thing up and listen to the audiobook. I will
do that. So I appreciate that message. Thank you, Melody,
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Thank you right now for listening wherever you are in
your car at the gym. Thank you for not listening
to an audiobook and listening to this podcast. And until
next time, go out and watch good movies and I
will talk to you later