July 15, 2024 • 55 mins
Mike and Kelsey talk about The Hollywood Reporter’s article on the 10 young A-list stars at the top of studios’ most-wanted lists today. Mike ranks each of the actors by who he thinks is the least to most in demand. Mike and Kelsey share what movies from each they have enjoyed, Kelsey pushes back on Mike’s ranking choices and they share more actors who snubbed by the list. In the Movie Review, Mike talks about Longlegs which is being called the scariest movie of the year. Mike weighs in on how it lives up to the hype, Nicolas Cage’s performance and how it managed to make him feel scared. In the Trailer Park, Mike breaks down Gladiator 2 that stars Pedro Pascal, Paul Mescal and Denzel Washington. The sequel picks up years after the original with Mescal portraying a grown-up Lucius, the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's Commodus in the original. Mike talks about how the rhino scene was 20 years in the making and why surprisingly it doesn’t look like a cash grab.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host. Movie Mike joined this week with my
wife and coast Kelsey. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm good, I'm back another week.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I did see some really nice comments on Instagram and
TikTok that people enjoy when I'm on, So I would
just like to see thank you, and please keep buttering
at my ego and letting me know that you're like
listening to be in here, because sometimes we get done
and I'm like, I don't know if I would enjoy
listening to that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I think welcome to being a podcaster.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I think my friend Taylor and I always think that
we should start a podcast because we think we're funny,
but we're like, what.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Would we even talk about?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
But I would also like to say, in reference to
last week's episode, I got a text from my nana
shout out no yeah, that I never thought that I
would ever get from my grandmother, in which she enjoyed
the part where we talked about the kinds of kindness
and free the nip, and those were just words never
thought I would read into text from my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We'll see what happens in this week's episode, I think
we're done talking about nipples.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Though I think we're done, we might talk about Glenpell.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I think we actually will, because we're gonna be talking
about the top ten Young A List actors. They put
out a list. I decided to rank them, and you
are here to react to my ranking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I knew Clempal was coming here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You knew that's why you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, you asked me to be on.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
In the movie review, I'll be talking about what is
being described as the best horror movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Absolutely not. You're stepping out of that dance party to
attend all you're seeing that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And then in the trailer park we'll be talking about
Gladiator too, which I was actually quite surprised. And your
relationship with the Gladiator.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Movies is complicated one sorry, Mom and Dad. They didn't
have a babysitter. One night when the original Gladiator came out,
which was what.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Like two thousand, two thousand and one, two thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And they had to take me with them and told
me just to fall asleep. So at six years old,
I did sit through Gladiator. I did fall asleep eventually,
but I saw I saw.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Enough, So that is what we're talking about this week.
Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed.
Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now
let's talk movies.
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Speaker 1 (02:27):
The Hollywood Reporter put out ten young A List stars
that are said to be the most in demand. They
are at the top of studio's most wanted list right now,
and they put them out just here it is. Here's
the entire list. They didn't rank them. I decided to
rank them based on who I think is. I think
they're all in demand, but I have somebody at ten
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who I think is the least in demand out of
all these. And my number one is who I would
say is the most in demand young Hollywood actor right now,
which I do enjoy this new class. And if you
look at the difference between the twenty twenties class and
the twenty tens class, is I feel like all the
actors that had their big break in the twenty tens
were all in superhero movies.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, yeah, that was the biggest thing at the time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's all your Chris Is, the Evans, the Chris Pratt,
Chris Hemsworth, and they're all Avengers, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Nine Chris Pine as Star Trek.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I mean, everybody is not just Marvel, but in DC
like al Gado, Jason Momoa. They all had their big
breaks in the twenty tens and they were either Marvel
or DC. And now with people having superhero fatigue, I
feel like that is kind of the resurgence of more
indie films, which I think a lot of these actors
actually got their start in. So it's it's gonna be
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different between how competitive it is between these actors and
the class before it, because I don't think all these
actors as that we're going to talk about are necessarily
going after the same roles. So at number ten, who
I put is a twenty eight year old Paul mescal
and the way they describe him as the art house print,
and I put him at ten just because of everybody
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on this list, he is the one that I wouldn't
even say I'm a big fan of his work, and
his movie After Sun probably had the most buzz out
of all of his movies so far, and I just
didn't really enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I really only know of Paul Meskellen pop culture context,
like he dated Phoebe Bridgers.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That is how I know him. He is Bamy Bridge's boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Also his friends with Joe Alwin and Andrew Scott and
they had like a tortured man's group chat, which than
people thought the whole tortured poet's apartment. And I won't
get into the Taylor Swift floor of it all.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm less of a fan of his movies more a
fan of his style because GQ always puts him one Instagram.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Does have great style.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He has great like summer style, very laid back. But
I feel like him as an actor hasn't really cut
through to me yet. He hasn't had that one role.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Couldn't tell you anything he's in.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I watched After Son without you because it's it's
kind of depressing. I don't want to get too into
it because I feel like that's a hard one to
talk about without spoiling it. But it's really a slow
burn and I feel that's what all of his roles
have been so far up until what I'll talk about
later is Gladiator too, And I'll just say now that
I didn't think he had that in him. At number nine,
I put Jacob Alordie and they describe him as the
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shy heart throb. He's twenty seven years old. I don't
really get the shy heart throb. I mean he is
like the heart throb to me. Yeah, he's tall, good looking.
He's done some good movies. I liked him in Saltburn.
He was good in Euphoria.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So is it Priscilla is that thing?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He was Elvis and Priscilla.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I have Elvis movie fatigue. I still kind of have
a bad taste in my mouth from when he was
like the Kissing Booth was so stupid. I hated those man.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He's already dragging his Netflix roles. Probably won't work over
there again, at least for the time being.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So like that kind of docked some points. He doesn't
really do it for me. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He's like the heart throb. I get it why he's
called the heart throb thought, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like, mah, I just think for an actor, you can
only rely on your good looks for so long. Yeah,
and I think he's lucky to have gotten some pretty
good roles like being on Euphoria, being able to play Elvis,
and I think Saltburn kind of put him on that
trajectory of becoming more of a household name. But I
don't think he's there yet. I think people movie. I
think people recognize him now, and when you are so
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good looking, people pay attention to you. But I think
if he doesn't have that one major role in the
next three or four years, I don't think he's gonna
have the longevity that all these other actors are going
to have. But at number eight, I put Anya Taylor
Joy love her. They describe her as the John rac Queen.
She is twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Years old, her style is phenomenal, and.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
She's been around for a while. The first movie I
saw her in was a horror movie called The Witch,
and she has done so many different types of movies,
from horror to animated movies. She did The Queen's Gambit, which.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Was Queen's Game but was so good had us all wanting.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
To play chess. It's not even a I mean it's
not a movie, it's a mini series. But to me,
that feels like a really long movie.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We got not own a chruss up because of that
mini series.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
We almost got one. Okay, we were like, let's start
playing chess.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I don't know how to play truss.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I learned how to play back in the day. I
could probably pick it up again. I'm not good at it.
I just know how to play. But I really like
Taylor Joy. She was although Furiosa, you didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I just thought she wasn't in like the first hour, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Because it was a lot more focused on the young
young Furiosa. And then once she came into play, I
felt the movie was much stronger without her in it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But then I was bored because an hour had already
gone by and I was like, we still have an
hour and a half of this movie. So the fact
that she wasn't in it made me bored, and then
I didn't enjoy the part she was in. She also
is notable because she has such a unique like fashion
sense and style. She's got like the milky white complexion,
the very blonde hair.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Very distinct.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
She's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She does like couldtoure very well, like I always see
it like fashion week.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think she's on the cover of Vogue on the
coffee table right now.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like she just I love her as an actress, and
I also just like her. It's like a fashion icon.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think my favorite movie of hers so far is
probably The Menu, and I think that's because that was
so good. That was when we went into not having
a whole lot of expectations and the journey you go
through in that movie, all the ups and downs and
just that level of shock and surprise. To make a
movie about people going to a fancy restaurant and then
being served as food and then all these crazy things
(08:09):
start happening is bizarre in itself, and I feel like
that's one movie that maybe when it came out back
in twenty twenty two that people missed, but it is.
I think it's still on Max.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Go watch it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I haven't seen that movie by this point because even
just looking at the poster, looking at the title of it,
it's not the most enticing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I was gonna say, even though it is a movie
about a restaurant, if you have a weak stomach.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Maybe don't. Yeah, I'll give that warning.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Movies about restaurants, TV shows about restaurants, like The Bear
that just makes you anxious.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Reminds me of that tweet that I saw that was like, ah,
had a hard day. I think I'll sit down and
watch FX's very calming show The Bear, which was satirical
because The Bear is one of the most stressful television people.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I haven't watched people yelling at each other, throwing things,
spitting at each other. Oh, it's great. Moving on with
the list, I put this person at number seven, Jenna Ortega.
They describe her as the gen Z Obsession. She's only
twenty one years old, which is wild to me.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Why does that make me feel old?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Out of all these she is the youngest. It's also
the fact that she's been around for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like she has done so much already. She had a.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Small role in the MCU, so she is technically in
the MCU very small role, but has been in the
spotlight for a very long time. But I feel like
in the last five years has really skyrocketed because of Wednesday.
I really enjoyed her in the Scream movies, although she's
not doing those anymore, but I feel like she is
kind of cornered that gen Z horror market.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Then she's gonna do beetlejuice. She's got like the what's
the it's not like scary, spooky.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, she has spooky. Market.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
People have described her as the new Scream Queen, although
I don't feel like she's done anything well. She wasn't
ex Yeah. I think she is like the modern day
Scream Queen, kind of like Jamie Lee Curtis was back
in the seventies and eighties. Like that's who we have
now is Jenna Ortega, and I think it's really powerful
to have somebody at her level to also have such
a young audience, which I think is why the Scream
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movies did so well, because that was kind of reviving
that franchise to a younger audience where you're not really
making those movies anymore for the people who are the
fans of the originals back in the nineties. You're trying
to introduce those to a whole new audience who have
never seen any of those movies. So I think that's
why probably the older fans aren't really tuning into those movies,
but they're not made for them anymore. They put Jitta Ortega,
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so young people go watch that, and I think that
is the feeling I got when going to see those
screen movies with her, it kind of felt like going
to the movies on a Friday night back in the
day again. And I really haven't had that feeling in
a while. But I feel that she is gonna be
around for a really long time, being only twenty one
years old and already crushing it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Can't believe you're sly twenty one? Wow, and she was
born in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, that's weird now that if we go buy alcohol,
all they have to look at our idea is the one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, just the one, just the one.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You're good, sir.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That is wild.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
But I feel like at number seven is a good
spot for her because at number six I have Florence Pugh,
who the Hollywood Reporter lists her as the chameleon. She
is twenty eight years old, which I feel is a
great description of her.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
She's younger than me. All these people are younger than she.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
She seems not in a mean way, but she seems older.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She's just very mature. She carries herself older.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I hate the description she has an old soul, but
when you see her in interviews, and also probably because
she has been around for a while, I mean She's
in one of my favorite movies, mid Soma, which does
a fantastic job in It is a horror movie that
I love and early on I recommend it to people,
and it's one of those movies you either love or
you hate.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I read the Wikipedia synopsis of it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Most people hate it. But I like those types of movies,
and she is just I feel like she is so
dedicated to every role that she does. Oh absolutely, she
is what I would call quoting community streets ahead of
other actors. Is that I feel like she could take
a mediocre role and make it so much better because
of the level that she cares about.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Roles range too.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, she's also done MCU movies. She was in
Black Widow, which a lot of people didn't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I liked Black Widow a lot same.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think it's also because of the time it came out.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It was like the first movie we saw back in theater, Pandemic.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I haven't had a Marvel movie since End Gave. I
was itching for one. We were coming off of having
a new Marvel movie every few months. They were doing
three year and they were all dominating. I feel that
movie got robbed of the time they decided to finally
put it out. Black Widow should have had her introduction
back in the first phase of The Avengers. I think
it would have made her entire character journey more impactful.
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So it kind of felt like, oh, they're gonna do
kind of a prequel to her story. So were there
some CGI and special effects things kind of off in
that movie that were a little bit cringe worthy? Yeah, probably,
But I think overall, finally getting to know Black widow
story was entertaining to me.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know what, now we can compare it to the
poster child for terrible superhero movies.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Madam Web.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's better than Madam Web.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Way better than Madam Web. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Because I watch Black Widow and unless I'm one of
these mega nerds, which I'm saying this as a.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Nerd, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And also there are also these level of mega nerds
that don't want to see anything with the female lead
do well, which is weird. There's just this like weird
kind of misogyny. Yes, that's what it is that they
have of like every superhero needs to have these qualities,
and all they do is describe qualities of male superheroes.
They can't show any emo, Like, it's just weird that
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people will just hate on a movie because it's female led, and.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
People hate on a lot of things because it's female lad.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Which I think that is enough to be a movie.
That is probably a lot of reason why that movie
got a lot of hate, why all the New Star
Wars movies get a lot of hate. Anything with a
female lead, some dudes are just going to have a
problem with and that's annoying. Anyway, back to the list,
at number five, Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I knew she was gonna be on this lite.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Would they describe as the hustler? She is twenty six
years old.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Speaking of Madam Web, that should have been.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh yeah, she was a Madam Web and they describe
her as the hustler. I feel like the only reason
she took that role.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What she said was to build a relationship with Sony.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Exactly smart and in the last few roles that she's
done Madam Webb, Immaculate and anyone but you, I feel
like two of those were strategic forming relationship roles. Immaculate
was good, yeah, probably the third act and it was
greatly due to her performance. But I don't really see
her doing more horror movies after that. It kind of
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felt like she was trying something out seeing if it worked,
adding that onto a resume because you hadn't done a
horror movie And probably also why she did Madam Webb
because she wanted to do a superhero movie, because I
feel like that's kind of like actors probably at one point,
like once you do a superhero movie, you're totally tapped
in if it does well. But I think she probably
also got confused like Dakota Johnson's people did, and thought
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she was going to be in the MCU, which is
entirely different, And if you don't know that going into it,
then you're already setting yourself up for failure. But I
I think describing her as the hustler is a great
way to kind of represent that she is doing everything
she can right now.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's like we're not even giving her enough credit for
being like the businesswoman that she is. Like she's light
years ahead in thinking longevity of her career.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Because I think with anything now, you can't just be
one thing. An actor really just can't rely on their
acting skills alone, because if you look at just how
they're being paid and how if you're doing Netflix or
any other streamer movies, you're not getting any residuals. You're
making less money from acting, so you have to have
it at all. You have to do the other things
and do the partnerships and really expand your entire brand
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more so than you could back in the nineties and
two thousands.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And Chelsea did White Lotus Euphoria like she's got the
Max series down.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, I think that's a whole other thing. Is I
feel like before you were looked at as being a
better actor if you did movies, because that was like
the gold standard. Now it really doesn't anymore. You can
do movies, and sometimes TV shows are more coveted if
they perform better. So it all comes down to I
don't really think you have to look at yourself. Even
though all these people I would consider movie stars, they
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could easily jump into a series and it doesn't look like,
oh they're taking a step back because they're doing a
TV show. I don't think that's the case anymore. So
I think that also is a big part of why
she's successful. Obviously built a big fan base with Euphoria, which, again,
like we were talking about Jenna Ortega having that young
gen Z audience already built into you, already wanting to
follow you. I think that is great having on her resume.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So she was also great when she hosted SNL. Forgot
about that because they did the whole thing about like
she and Glenn powerly leaned into like the rumors about them,
and then she was like, my fiance is even here
tonight and then they like pan over to Glenn Powe
on the audience, which was so funny, and then playing
into it was great. Yeah, I think she's incredibly smart,
like above being talented as an actress, I think she's
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very like savvy. And she also got a lot of
hate when she sat online that she couldn't pay her
rent and then she was like, no, I don't think
people understand like how difficult it is to be an
actor actress, like break into this, like it's not not
everything is a giant paycheck exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I kind of had that same feeling when I
saw her say that, But I also had to think
about what point of her career that she was at.
It was really just while she was still on Euphoria,
and you think about how much you probably get paid
for that show, which it's a HBO show that's not
probably paying as high as some of the other TV shows.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Or paying as some of the other leads.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like, yeah, you have a guy that's probably making bank
above Sidney Sweeney because she's the name drawing it to
the show.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And I think overall, for a budget on that show,
HBO doesn't really bring in mass ratings like a you know,
a regular channel.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Would, although we did, everyone did break HBO Max when
we all tried to watch The Mary of East Town finale.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's true. And then you also have to consider you
have to pay your agent, you have to pay your publicist.
You have all these people, and by the time all
that gets taken out, you're not making if you get
paid even.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like yeah, it's like taking the lump sum of lottery.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But then that's why you have to do all these
other things. And then we were already kind of mentioning it.
But at number four, I have Glenn Powell.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Only at number four.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I haven't met number four. I think the top three
is I can't wait to hear the top three. Then
I'll say this before I get into it, but number
three is one that is not my favorite. But I
feel that he is in the top three over Glenn Powell,
but they describe Glenn Powell as the megawatt smile. And
the interesting thing is he's thirty five, and out of
everybody on this list, he is the oldest, and he's
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also been around a while. But I kind of feel
like it's the best New Artist category at the Grammys,
where sometimes you have people who have been around a while,
but they finally put out a project or a song
that gets a lot of attention and they are qualified
for that category, even though it could be an artist
already in their forties who has already been wildly successful
in other areas. It almost takes that big look to
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really put people, Oh they're a thing now, we got
to put him in this category even though he's thirty five.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I don't feel like I can say anything else I
have said in the past few weeks.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because he was even in the Dark Knight Rises, that scene.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Where he was he was a banker, yeah street.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Where Bain goes and puts his arm on him, and
I'd forgot about that. So he has been acting for
a really long time. He's had smaller roles, but also
shows you how hard it is to break into be
at that a list level. I do think it's interesting
how they describe him as the megawatt smile, which I
didn't really think about until I went to go and.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
He watched his Twisters press tour.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It never really set in with me that that's kind
of his distinct thing of like his big, like welcoming grin,
because it's.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Very much like Matthew McConaughey and the like homegrown Texas,
like southern like he very much emulates that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You think Matthew McConaughey is a little intimidated by him,
or he just kind of accepts that there's gonna be
somebody newer.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think they vibe they did a vanity fair. It's
like a not an actor's on actors, but like an
article where McConaughey interviewed.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Because there's just so many parallels between the two there are.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But I also feel like McConaughey is kind of he
just does his own thing, doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I saw him once at a Texas football game. He
was with this kid getting a snow cone, and people
were like following him, and I felt really bad because
his kid looked really scared. Oh and I was like,
that's a like line, like his kid was literally just
trying to get his kid was like four at the time,
and people were just swarming him. And I was like,
when they have their like small children, like that's off limits.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That is Yeah, that is like he he's the type.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Of person that if you see him anywhere else in Austin,
he will say hi, smile, Like even anywhere else with
like the stadium, he's by himself, but like kids back off.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, well at number three, you're not gonna like this one.
But I feel like this is a perfect slot for him.
It is Austin Butler.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh, I knew it. For the Hollywood Reporter knew it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Described as the Golden Boy. He is thirty two years old.
And the reason I put him above Glenn Powell is
because of Elvis Oh. I think that role, even though
you had their love or hate, it put him on
an entire hirely different level. And I think the people
in the top three have that one defining role.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But here's the thing, and I feel like I have
found myself being an Austin Butler hater lately, and I
don't mean to be, but it's like his projects after that,
like Masters of Air. We gave up watching that, and
I thought I was gonna be so excited. World War
two planes, Austin Butler, great cast. What's that other guy's name?
Callum Turner one dating Duelipa do people? I thought it
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was gonna be great, didn't like that bike Riders? Like
he just I feel like it's that curse of like
you get a great role and then you are type cast.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Is that forever?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I will say, I think those two examples you had
after that are for an entirely different audience, and we
are just not in that audience because I think I
could see Grandma's loving him.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What grandma's are going to see bike Riders?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I think Masters of the Air was probably more for
an older audience.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What grandma's have Apple TV? Well, my grandparents running have nets.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I see more Grandma's being into Masters of the Air,
and then I see like an older guy being into
bike riders.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You're calling me and grandma for like king on my
World War two books?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Well, the time period, the time period I've taken yourself
into a different audience, so I could see him kind
of appealing to that more than say like a Janet
ortego Who's that's.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Honestly insulting to his career, though, like I don't, you're
not building a case for him at number three. You
just said Grandma's with like his performance and older dudes
in a byte gang.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know how successful the TV show NCIS is that
has a much older audience.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I forget that that show is still around blue Bloods.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I feel like sometimes, like even talking about movies, talking
about TV shows, we focus on the things that we
like and also coincide with the things that are popular
on you know, on social media, people talk about the
most right, those aren't always the most watched me going
to see long Legs. Not everybody's going to see that,
They're going to see Despicable Me before. So it's those
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things that we reach a much wider audience, like the
NCIS is the Blue Bloods. Stop thinking about and people
hate when I bring up that reference because some people
love it. I know some people love it.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Watched the first few seasons of Blue Bloods when I
lived at home because my mom watched it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Pretty good show.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So I think if you were trying to reach the
biggest audience in Middle America, I feel like Austin Butler
is going to take roles that speak to that more.
He's gonna land more in if he takes the right
roles in the level of like a Tom Hanks. I'm
not comparing him to Tom Hanks, but as far as
doing roles that everybody can does.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
He have upcoming projects, I'm gonna look that up.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He's not somebody that I'm fully in tune with everything
that he does. Sometimes it's not until I see the
trailer for it that I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Like, all, I give him another chance. He's the same
age as you. Yeah, oh yeah, he was in Dune.
Parduc also didn't like that one.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
But I thought he'd showed at least a different side
in Dune two.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Hannamontane. We did a lot of tea.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, back when he's still talk like a normal human
and now was old dog and like he's still talking
like Elvis.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
He has one thing coming out contemporary Western black comedy film.
I don't even understand that genre is a twenty four
I was.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Gonna say, I think it was an a twenty four movie.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Petter mescal INMM The Stone, Luke Grimes, Austin Butler, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Because I think he can walk that line of doing
the big blockbuster but also having that indie darling look
where he could go do an a twenty four movie.
I think he'd be pretty versatile, which I think all
these actors can do and have already done. But at
number two, I have Zendeiya, who is described by the
Hollywood Reporter as the Unicorn. She is twenty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
She's perfect, and she is absolutely perfect. She is she
is just perfection. She has had such a long career
already at twenty seven, from the Disney Channel to the
Spider Man Euphoria Challengers like I'm Sinday's b I love her.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Speaking of Euphoria, I don't think that's going to get
another final season.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think they'll ever coming back, which is a.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Bit of a bummer because of how good every single
season that was and how just I feel like everybody
who loved that show was just like they're watching the
moment it came out. It was just such a moment there.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Everyone's like gotten too big almost for them to film,
especially with the strike last year. I feel like that
pushed back filming and then everyone's taken on other projects.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I feel that's gonna happen with Euphoria.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Also with The Bear. Those people are getting so famous,
and so.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They already filmed season four.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I think that could be. Hey, it's Mike popping
in here. In between the time we recorded this episode
and released it, Euphoria actually announced they're officially said to
begin production in January twenty twenty five. All the main
cast members are returning for a new season. So maybe
I spoke it into existence. I'm glad to be wrong
on this one because they looks like we're getting a
new season of Euphoria. So just wanted to pop in
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here and give this update. Now back to the episode.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I also don't see the need for shows to be
so long anymore. Like I think, if you wrap a
story up well, like if you for it doesn't come
back at all, I'll be really sad because it did
end on a cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But like the Bear, if they wrap it up nicely,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Think shows need twenty seasons like Gray's Anatomy, like we
should have stopped that train eight seasons ago, like that
went straight off the rails. So I think if things
can be wrapped up nicely, not everything needs ten seasons.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I mean back in the day, everything had to have
not only a good amount of seasons. I felt like
six was like the minimum, but also they were doing
twenty four episode seasons and that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I do love that when I'm binging the show.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I'm currently binging The Resident on Netflix, and I love
how many episodes are.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Don't even mention how much I watched. Okay, I know
you were about to let that number slip. Please do not.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's more than the number of Dragon Ball Super episodes
that I've watched. Fine, and I've watched thirty three of those.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, really you had to put me on blast the.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But mine are only twenty minutes, So maybe that's unfair.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That's even worse because now you're saying that I watched
forty five I've been an episode.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Just stop talking.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But yes, at number two is Zendaya at number one?
Can you guess it? Tom Holland, No, I feel like
he's the class before.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Ok Can I have a hint?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
He's twenty eight years old. Hollywood Reporter describes him as
the sure thing, so it's a het.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Has he been in anything we watched recently? Yes, I
feel like this was one of my Daily New York
Times games.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I think you can get this, Oh timmy, tim Timothy Shallomey,
there you go, thank you. I think both him and
Zendia at one and two. I think any major role
is theirs to turn down. I feel like, if you
have a big movie coming out, you need a big star.
If it's male, you want Timothy Alime. If it's female,
you want Zendia. And then if they say no, it
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goes on to everybody else. I feel like they can
do anything they want, work with any director, play any character.
Timothy shallome going to be Bob Dylan is probably awesome
for him, only he could do that right now. Zendia
could play anybody she wants him.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Dating Kylie Jenner's really just still throwing me off together.
Such an odd pairing. They are such a weird pairing
to me. She's kids and he's like a theater kid.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Like, yeah, it's a weird pairing to me. I also
love his sister, Pauline. She's in the Sex Lives of
College Girls on HBO. I think she's a great actress,
so clearly the talent runs in the family.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But he is also somebody that I feel I like
both on and off screen. Even though him in the
biggest fan of the Dune franchise, loved him in Wonka,
loved Twonka, loved him in like the eight twenty four
movies like Ladybird, so he's also done it all. He
was great Little Women.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
He was so funny on SNL.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, he's also great at comedy.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Him and Pete Davidson I sing there like little rap song.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It was Pete Davidson, right, yeah, Okay, So that was
their list that I decided to rank. Some people I
feel that were snabbed a little bit and maybe because
they're just on the cusp of it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Ooh, I know one Iowa Debris.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
That's one of mine. Yep, yep. I feel like she's
almost right there because of the bear she was just
and inside out too.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
She's so funny and she.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Was great in Bottoms. I feel like she needs that
one big role to really break through.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It's also in Theater Camp also great, one of our
favorite indie movies of last year.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
So I think when she has that major role, she
is I mean, she's gonna make a lot of money
up inside out too.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I'm trying to think of someone do you have other people.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
In ideas Okay, hmmm, somebody else who I'll say, Neippo
baby in a TV show. I love also have been
a fan of her movies Mya Hawk, Maya Hawk. I
thought she would be on the list, But.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I very into her music recently too. Yeah, my howk
Kick And I.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Didn't really want to like it because I feel like
I was like, now, she get into music too. I
listened to it. Oh, I like this is fun. I
listened to it a lot. I mean, with stranger things.
I feel like she could be in that top ten.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
How could you not be so talented? Though, when your
parents are Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It's unfair to have that much talent.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's like you're just meant to be beautiful and like talented.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because not yet. Like you said, not only do you
get the good looks from both of them.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But they're also phenomen actors and you're just yeah, you
just you grow up in that industry.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Another one I have. I'm also in the same show as.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Maahawk Millie Poppy Prown.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I feel like she is really trying to make
her film career work. She's so young, she is really young.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
She is she's so young.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I almost feel like she is experienced with Daisy, really
experienced post star wars of you get these big roles
offered to you and you take them because you are
the star now that can have that first billing in
a movie. But I feel like she hasn't picked the
right roles yet.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I love her and Bunjovie's son. They're so cute together.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
She did that Netflix movie Damsel, and I was like,
what do you watch that? I started, it got about
halfway through and I realized, like, I don't care where
this movie goes. So I never really reviewed it or talked.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
About it in the same vein. I have one add
to the list. What you got Joey King. I'm a
big Joey King fan.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now where does that come from?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
She was great in The Kissing Booth Okay, loved her
in a Family Affair.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
She was also in The Dark Night Ride, which Powell.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And she did. We Were the Lucky Ones on Hulu,
which was based on a book.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yes, I think she's I mean her range is incredible.
She could do a Netflix rom com. She did traditional
rom com where she wasn't the main rom colm. She
wasn't the main character and then to do like a
historical drama like that.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I just think she's great.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
When I almost added on the list, even though they've
been around a while, I feel like they are the
hottest now that they've ever been, but are older. Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was gonna say Jeremy Allen White too. I thought
you were gonna because also the Bear.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Shameless, but I feel like the Bear he wasn't doing
Colvin Klein ads, but when he was on Shameless.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Iron Claw, Yeah, dang, I would should put them on
my list too. And somebody who I feel is on
the bubble is Margaret Quayley, Yes, I feel like and
Joseph Quinn, who was also in Stranger Things in a
Quiet Place day one.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I didn't put it.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I know you said he was in Stranger Things, but
until I saw something like a clip of him, I
was like, Oh, that's who he is.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, but I loved him in Quiet Place.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He's also gonna be in Gladiator too, so he could
be up there too. But that is the list. I
feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I feel good about like some Frost from Baller.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I know I knew you weren't gonna like that. Well,
come back I'll give my review of Long Legs, and
in the trailer park we'll talk more about well gladiit
or two. Let's get into it now, a spoiler free
movie review of Long Legs. Long Legs has been described
as the scariest movie of the year. I think for
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the most part that is self proclaimed. But they used
it in every single poster and trailer, and I think
they did a fantastic job marketing this movie. It reminded
me of Oreo back in the day marketing themselves as
America's favorite cookie proof they weren't well. I guess they
got sued or somebody said they couldn't use that, But
I think it's a great way to market the movie.
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There are some pros and constant that. The pro is
you have people talking about it, buzzing about it, and
that's what I had going into this movie. Didn't even
look at any reviews online. But the people in my
life started telling me about this movie who had seen
it before me, and we're building that hype for me.
So that's the pro. You have people talking about it,
is it gonna live up to that title the scariest
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movie of the year. The con is you're gonna have
people say scariest movie of the year. I'll go into
that movie. It won't scare me. And you have like
this wall around you going into it that you already
think in your head this is gonna be scary. So
I'm not gonna let it scare me. So what this
movie did was build that hype. And those first people
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who went to go watch it and started raving about
it and like, I will tell you about it now,
are gonna build this hype for this movie because it
is that good. But the problem is that people who
go watch it on the second week, third week later
on streaming are gonna hear that hype and then say,
wasn't that scary? Everybody over hyped it. That is just
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what happens with a good movie like this, and over
hyped movie doesn't mean that it's bad. It just means
that it was probably so good that people were raving
about it, people were wanting to tell other people to
go see this movie. So there's no way you can
live up to that expectation. But for me, was it
the scariest movie of the year. I am going to
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say yes. I loved everything about Long Legs, and I
don't want to Obviously, I never spoil anything on this podcast.
I don't really talk past the first act, but there
are details in this movie that I don't even feel
would be spoilers, but I won't even get into them
because this is one of those movies that and even
the smallest details feel like really big things that you discover.
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So there are things I could tell you about the
characters that I loved, but I don't want to get
into it because I want you to see this if
you're a horror fan and experience it for yourself without
knowing a whole lot about the plot, because I really
didn't know too much about it. And here's what the
actual description of the movie is. In a pursuit of
a serial killer, an FBI agent uncovers a series of
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occult clues that she must solve to end a terrifying
killing spree. A longer description is FBI agent Lee Harker,
who was one of my favorite horror leads in a
really long time, because horror movies like this tend to
have a female lead, but sometimes they're always written the
same way. What I loved about Lee Harker in this movie,
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played by Michael Munroe, is that she had a different personality.
She was a little bit socially awkward, very introverted. She's
an FBI agent, so obviously she's very smart and has
a passion for law enforcement obviously to get to that level,
But she was so unlike any other lead I've seen
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in a horror movie like this that I just felt
like her character was refreshing and it wasn't the same
thing over and over. So she has this gift that
they talk about early in the movie where they either
think she is psychic or just has a really good
intuition when it comes to solving crimes. So she gets
put onto this case of the long Legs Killer, who
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has this really weird calling card that they leave letters
at the murders with these encrypted symbols that she later
has to try and figure out. So that's the first
part of her tackling this case. So it kind of
reminded me of Zodiac, which is a great David Fincher movie.
And I would say the first act of this movie
very much just felt like a true crime movie where
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there were some horror elements. It really leaned into the sounds,
which a couple weeks ago in the trailer park where
I started talking about this movie, I showcased the very
haunting sounds in the movie, and I think that is
really what it leaned into very early on, where it
let your mind kind of go crazy because it didn't
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really show you a whole lot, but just building this
tension through these really big shots with the character just
right there in the center, these slow pans into this
mysterious darkness, and just those sounds that allowed you sitting
there in the theater to freak yourself out, not by
showing you, but you in your mind thinking what could
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be there, what could be making these really crazy sounds.
What this movie really did a good job was was
setting that tone of terror, and how did they do that.
So much of this movie takes place at night, and
oftentimes Lee Harker, the agent, is always alone, so you
always start to freak herse out because she's alone, nothing
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around her, She's hearing things, and everything is dark. So
for the majority of this movie, the entire theater was dark.
So I really feel like that helped overall with making
me feel more and more scared as the movie went along.
Sometimes I was wondering, like, why is she always alone?
And why does she always have all the lights off.
But that's just horror movies for you. So continuing on
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with the description of this movie, as the case takes
complex turns unearthing evidence of the occult Harker to discovers
a personal connection to the merciless killer, and the race
to stop him before he claims the lives of another
innocent family. So that is essentially the plot of the movie.
And at an hour and thirty six minutes, the movie
really wasted no time diving right into the story pretty upfront,
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giving you some disturbing images, and then really walking that
line of giving you things building story, giving you scary things,
building story, and even when you think that it starts
to lose you just a little bit, it sucks you
back in. And for me, when I go watch a
horror movie like this, most times I can predict how
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the movie is going to end. The last movie that
happened in was Smile. Within that first twenty minutes, I
already knew exactly how that movie was going to end.
They really built a lot of the scary moments through
jump scares, which can feel a little bit cheap, but
overall Smile was still a pretty good horror movie. But
Long Legs is on an entirely different level. You can
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tell within the opening scene that it just feels different
when it comes to the score of this movie, even
when it comes to the graphics and the text, and
how all the flashback scenes are framed differently, where normally
the scene takes up the entire screen in the movie theater,
but then these flashback scenes have like this little square
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has that home movie type from like back in the
seventies and eighties, and even that on its own was
just creepy in itself. Whenever the entire screen goes red
and you have the black letters, it just really brings
that energy to the movie. That paired with the excellent
cinematography where I really loved how they framed the characters.
They didn't feel the need to have, you know, big
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cinematic close ups. They would often frame Michah Moore in
the middle almost bottom half of the screen and showed
so much of the background, so really gave you this
feeling of emptiness. You could kind of feel her anguish
a little bit more when the scenes were framed that way.
So I thought that was really great. So she did fantastic.
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It looked fantastic. The score was fantastic. But then you
throw in Nicholas Cage as long Legs, who looks unrecognizable
and is so freaky in this movie. I knew that
it was Nicholas Cage because he is listed in the
credits very front of the movie. They say Nicholas Cage
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has long legs. But while watching this movie, you could
convince me that that was not Nicholas Cage because with
this makeup he had on, this wig, the prosthetics they
had on his face did not look like him whatsoever.
And sometimes Nicholas Cage is a little bit hit or miss.
I don't always think it's his performances. Sometimes I just
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feel like he doesn't pick the best roles. But if
you put Nicholas Cage in a great role, especially in Horror,
where all of his kookiness can really come out, that
mixed with a great director, Nicholas Cage is a great actor.
His performance really made the movie. Whenever his character was
on screen, you could not look away. And that's really
what happened. That was my experience because thirty minutes into
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this movie, I had to go pee, but I did
not want to miss a single thing because it felt
like every single scene was building up this story and
I didn't want to miss a single second of it,
so I held it for the entire time. Luckily, this
movie is less than two hours, so didn't pee my pants.
Os Perkins did a fantastic job as a director and
left nothing on the table, which is always my biggest
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gripe when it comes to horror movies because I always
feel like they want to set it up for a
second one, they want to build a franchise. This one
gave you everything and it felt like a very complete, twisted,
dark fairy tale to you with hell kids at night
to terrorize them. Go to sleep right now, or Long
Legs is coming for you. And what makes this movie
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so polarizing is the lore created around Long Legs. And
you wanted to know more about this character than giving
you some detail but not giving you everything. It's the
mystery behind it. You don't need to know every detail,
you don't need to know the entire origin story. Just
seeing this character is terrifying enough, and really the less
you know, the more scary it is in your mind.
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Which I love horror movies that allow you to build
that terror in your brain because where your imagination can
go sometimes is even scarier than what they can show
you on the screen. Another thing I picked out from
the trailer of this movie that if you turn up
your laptop or your phone brightness a little bit more,
you see these little easter eggs of things hiding in
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the dark. In the movie. I paid attention to that
because there are little flashes of sinister characters that create
these little easter egg moments that blink and you miss it,
but if you do see it, it scares as a
crap out of you. So yes, it is the scariest
horror movie of the year. But not only that, I
think one of the best theater experiences I've had so
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far will probably make my top ten movies at the
end of the year. A rare occurrence where my entire
theater was silent throughout the entire movie. You could hear
a pin drop in this theater because everybody was so
tuned in wanting to see what was going to happen next.
That rarely happens. I will say it's a different type
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of scary because I remember leaving the theater after watching
The Conjuring for the first time, and I was a
little bit freaked out to go Out to My Car.
I probably had a nightmare that night, and that was
the last movie to really scare me in theaters because
of just the shock value of that movie. This one
was a little bit different. It almost felt like this
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movie put me in a trance. While I was watching it,
I was just not there. I was kind of observing
my own body taken this film. But as soon as
the movie was over, the credits rolled and I left
the theater, it was like that trance went away. So yes,
it is scary, but really, to me, it felt more
cinis and unsettling, anxiety inducing, and a very rare thing
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for a movie to really ramp up at the end.
I feel like they put a cinder block on the
gas pedal and balls to the wall to close out
this movie. There are like two or three things that
I had a little bit of an issue with that
I don't even want to reveal to you because I
feel they lean on the spoiler side. So I feel
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like Long Legs is an almost perfect movie. I give
it four point five out of five FBI agents.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's time to head down to movie mikes.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Traylor, Paul Haho. I didn't expect to be this excited
about Gladiator too, But I have to say, after watching
the trailer, it looks amazing Ridley Scott pulling something out
of his butt, and I think we all deserve it.
Napoleon really let most of us down last year. So
(45:04):
what Gladiator two is about is interesting because it's connected
to the first one. It takes place years later, but
now it follows the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's character in
the original, played by Paul mescal who we're talking about earlier,
And I was saying in that segment how I didn't
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really feel like he was a list star worthy. Although
he's shown a lot of great abilities as an actor,
he hasn't really showed me a whole lot of range
outside of that. But he is that Indie darling. But
seeing him in this trailer being ferocious and it being
a movie about rage and revenge, I was so pleasantly surprised,
not only with his performance in this three minute trailer,
(45:49):
but also the fact that dude looks ripped his arms
I am jealous of. And I also didn't really know
that about him. He almost seemed more like a Timothy
shallow May type to me. But seeing how much he
dedicated to getting his physique up for this movie, and
looks the part, I feel like this movie is going
to be firing on all cylinders. It looks to have
(46:11):
that action. It looks like the movie that really Scott
probably wanted to make twenty years ago, back in two thousand,
when you really didn't have the same special effects. It
was probably still too expensive. And now this movie makes sense,
which is interesting to me because it is a period
piece that takes place way back in the day, and
to think that you need advanced technology to make a
(46:34):
movie like that look really good is something that I
really wouldn't expect from a movie. You think that it
would be more of like the sci fi movies from
the eighties that would be more benefited by technology. Now,
I didn't really see that coming in a period piece,
which happens to be one of my least favorite genres
of movies, because I just feel like they're so drawn
out the characters. There's so many names to remember, and
(46:57):
I feel like it's always heavy on the dialogue and
not so much on the action. But by the looks
of this trailer and all the things you have coming out,
I think it is going to be good. So before
I get into more what I think about Gladiator too,
he's just a little bit of the trailer.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Ye arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators into
free men.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
You have something. I knew it from the start, then
June lay a wage you should get so, like I said,
he is playing the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's character, So
I feel like his story is gonna be much different
than Russell Crowe's story in the original movie because he
(47:38):
comes from noble beginnings, but yet we still find him
in the arena fighting as a gladiator. So it looks
like this movie is going to have him starting out
living in North Africa. Then he's gonna have to come
back to Rome, fight as a gladiator, gonna make some
new enemies, gonna reunite with his mom. Movie is coming
out on November twenty second. So in addition to Paul
(47:59):
Mesk playing the lead in this movie, you also have
Petro Pascal, who looks just so at home in this role.
It reminds me of his time on Game of Thrones,
which I think he does this type of period just
really well. You also have Denzel Washington, who looks so
unlike I've seen him in a very long time. I
love Denzel Washington in a menacing role, give me his
(48:22):
vibe when he did movies like Training Day. He looks
vicious in this movie, and for his last couple of
films that I feel really haven't been the right tone
as far as what I want from Denzel Washington. Seeing
him now in this trailer makes me think that he
just needed a great director to work with, and I think,
really Scott is going to be one to get a
really great performance out of him, even though I feel
(48:45):
like at this point in Denzel's career he's kind of
like what Tom Brady was at the Buccaneers or even
in The Patriots, where he's kind of calling his own shots.
You don't really coach Denzel Washington on how to act.
But I feel like with as many oscar as he has,
as much of a legacy that he has in film,
he's not really an actor that you're gonna give notes
(49:07):
to at the end of the day. Ridley Scott really
has an incredible range. His last movies include Napoleon, how Sagucci,
The Last Duel, but he's also famous for movies like
Thelma and Louise Alien Blade Runner, Blackhawk Down, and the
Original Gladiator from the year two thousand is probably one
of the most defining movies of the two thousands, although
(49:30):
I do feel like it's one that I'm surprised as
getting a sequel, And sometimes for the most part now
people just get enraged by sequels. People tend to hate
on franchises and Hollywood being unoriginal, and sometimes I get
on that train. There are some instances that I feel
are just mere cash grabs, and the reason we see
(49:52):
these so much is because movies are going to bank
on things that make money, what makes money, things that
people are familiar with. That is why so many remakes
get made, and also why so many remakes get promoted
so much. So to all the people online saying that
everything's a remake, nothing is original, you're probably only paying
(50:12):
attention to the things being fed to you because they
have the most money behind them. And yes, they're gonna
bank on the sheer thing. They're gonna bank on things
that have worked in the past, and they're gonna be
familiar with and gonna get your butt into that seat.
Because just by doing this podcast, I could name you
ten original movies that came out in the last year
that were all great, but all those people probably didn't
(50:36):
go see So the original movies are there, they just
aren't the ones you're having shoved down your throat. Have
to seek out a little bit. But original movies are
being made, and I do think there will be a
rise in indie filmmaking in the next few years. But
that being said, I don't feel like Gladiator is one
of those cash grab movies. But I think the reason
(50:56):
it is getting one now and that it makes sense
is because one technology has advanced, and two I think
the story is going to be different. Nothing about this
trailer screams to me that it is forced and put
together and just being put out to kind of go
into the slate of all these movies coming out this
year that are remakes from the eighties, nineties, and two thousands.
(51:19):
This really feels like something really Scott wanted to do
back twenty five years ago when he was working on Gladiator,
which one of the things he included in this movie
that's in the trailer is the rhino. He originally wanted
to put that in Gladiator, but the technology with CGI
just wasn't there. It was gonna be too expensive. But
(51:39):
now more than twenty years later, he is finally getting
that rhino and seeing it in the trailer is that
moment that I feel like every good trailer has. When
it comes to just big movies like this, you have
that one moment that really sticks out to you that
people are talking about, and it's when that rhino charges
that Paul Mescal takes them out, the rhinos noses all bloody.
(52:00):
That shows me that the stakes are gonna be even
higher in this movie. The action is going to be
more brutally violent, which I love and I think, like
I mentioned earlier, rely Scott does really well. That was
a major focal point in Napoleon, although I think it
was used wasn't used the best, but it was there,
it was bloody, it was shocking, So I think we'll
(52:22):
have more of that in this movie. I feel like
it's gonna have the tone of a Game of Thrones.
But what really is going to make this movie go
from being good to great is the story and hopefully
the beats of this story set itself apart from the original,
where it gives you some familiarity that we all felt
when we watched that movie for the first time, but
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is able to give us something that we aren't expecting,
which is something that sequels just miss out on because
they want to do that same movie beat for beat
that they did the first time. So we're all familiar
with it. We all feel like we got a continuation
of it. But I feel like they're already making it
different by making them the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's Sun.
(53:05):
So I think therefore his entire hero journey is gonna
go down a different road. And you can feel that
in this trailer. You can feel him making more enemies.
Will we get another thumbs down moment? We'll have to
see again. This movie is coming out on November twenty second.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
Head that for is this week's edition of movie Line
Tramer Bar.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
And that is gonna do it for another episode here
of the podcast. But before I go, I got to
give my listeners shout out oh the week. You can
get one of these by commenting on my TikTok anything
I post on Instagram or x or Facebook. You can
always find all the links to my social media in
the episode notes of this podcast. But pretty much I'm
(53:46):
Mike ad Shro everywhere. This week's listener shout out comes
to us from X. It is from Anthony who is
on X at cntr RT. Not quite exactly sure what
that spells, but Anthony wrote, you talk about superheroes destroying cities.
Hancock with Will Smith touched on this a lot. Thanks
for that, Andrew, because I forgot about Hancock, which was
(54:08):
a superhero movie from back in two thousand and eight
that was kind of before his time. I mean iron
Man came out in two thousand and eight, So what
that movie was about is Will Smith plays like a
scruffy superhero who used to be a much better superhero,
but now he's developed a bit of a drinking problem.
He's still when he wants to help save people, but
(54:28):
he's really sloppy. He'll take out a building, he'll still
be rude to the person after he saves them, and
then try least their own comes in. You have Jason
Bateman trying to do pr forum and make him be
a good guy and a better superhero. That movie really
wasn't reviewed very well, but I enjoyed that movie and
completely forgot about it. Yeah. Last week on our episode
(54:51):
recapping all of our favorite and worst movies of June,
I was just talking about how superheroes need to be
held accountable for all their actions, and when they saved
the city, they and end up destroying half the city.
So thank you Anthony for that, and thank you right
now for listening, for being subscribed, for telling a friend.
Until next time, go out and watch good movies and
I will talk to you later
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host. Movie Mike joined this week with my
wife and coast Kelsey. How are you.
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I'm good, I'm back another week.
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I did see some really nice comments on Instagram and
TikTok that people enjoy when I'm on, So I would
just like to see thank you, and please keep buttering
at my ego and letting me know that you're like
listening to be in here, because sometimes we get done
and I'm like, I don't know if I would enjoy
listening to that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I think welcome to being a podcaster.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I think my friend Taylor and I always think that
we should start a podcast because we think we're funny,
but we're like, what.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Would we even talk about?
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But I would also like to say, in reference to
last week's episode, I got a text from my nana
shout out no yeah, that I never thought that I
would ever get from my grandmother, in which she enjoyed
the part where we talked about the kinds of kindness
and free the nip, and those were just words never
thought I would read into text from my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We'll see what happens in this week's episode, I think
we're done talking about nipples.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Though I think we're done, we might talk about Glenpell.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I think we actually will, because we're gonna be talking
about the top ten Young A List actors. They put
out a list. I decided to rank them, and you
are here to react to my ranking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I knew Clempal was coming here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You knew that's why you're here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, you asked me to be on.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
In the movie review, I'll be talking about what is
being described as the best horror movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Absolutely not. You're stepping out of that dance party to
attend all you're seeing that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And then in the trailer park we'll be talking about
Gladiator too, which I was actually quite surprised. And your
relationship with the Gladiator.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Movies is complicated one sorry, Mom and Dad. They didn't
have a babysitter. One night when the original Gladiator came out,
which was what.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Like two thousand, two thousand and one, two thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And they had to take me with them and told
me just to fall asleep. So at six years old,
I did sit through Gladiator. I did fall asleep eventually,
but I saw I saw.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Enough, So that is what we're talking about this week.
Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed.
Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now
let's talk movies.
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The Hollywood Reporter put out ten young A List stars
that are said to be the most in demand. They
are at the top of studio's most wanted list right now,
and they put them out just here it is. Here's
the entire list. They didn't rank them. I decided to
rank them based on who I think is. I think
they're all in demand, but I have somebody at ten
(02:47):
who I think is the least in demand out of
all these. And my number one is who I would
say is the most in demand young Hollywood actor right now,
which I do enjoy this new class. And if you
look at the difference between the twenty twenties class and
the twenty tens class, is I feel like all the
actors that had their big break in the twenty tens
were all in superhero movies.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, yeah, that was the biggest thing at the time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's all your Chris Is, the Evans, the Chris Pratt,
Chris Hemsworth, and they're all Avengers, which is.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Nine Chris Pine as Star Trek.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I mean, everybody is not just Marvel, but in DC
like al Gado, Jason Momoa. They all had their big
breaks in the twenty tens and they were either Marvel
or DC. And now with people having superhero fatigue, I
feel like that is kind of the resurgence of more
indie films, which I think a lot of these actors
actually got their start in. So it's it's gonna be
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different between how competitive it is between these actors and
the class before it, because I don't think all these
actors as that we're going to talk about are necessarily
going after the same roles. So at number ten, who
I put is a twenty eight year old Paul mescal
and the way they describe him as the art house print,
and I put him at ten just because of everybody
(04:02):
on this list, he is the one that I wouldn't
even say I'm a big fan of his work, and
his movie After Sun probably had the most buzz out
of all of his movies so far, and I just
didn't really enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I really only know of Paul Meskellen pop culture context,
like he dated Phoebe Bridgers.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
That is how I know him. He is Bamy Bridge's boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Also his friends with Joe Alwin and Andrew Scott and
they had like a tortured man's group chat, which than
people thought the whole tortured poet's apartment. And I won't
get into the Taylor Swift floor of it all.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I'm less of a fan of his movies more a
fan of his style because GQ always puts him one Instagram.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Does have great style.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He has great like summer style, very laid back. But
I feel like him as an actor hasn't really cut
through to me yet. He hasn't had that one role.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Couldn't tell you anything he's in.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, I watched After Son without you because it's it's
kind of depressing. I don't want to get too into
it because I feel like that's a hard one to
talk about without spoiling it. But it's really a slow
burn and I feel that's what all of his roles
have been so far up until what I'll talk about
later is Gladiator too, And I'll just say now that
I didn't think he had that in him. At number nine,
I put Jacob Alordie and they describe him as the
(05:09):
shy heart throb. He's twenty seven years old. I don't
really get the shy heart throb. I mean he is
like the heart throb to me. Yeah, he's tall, good looking.
He's done some good movies. I liked him in Saltburn.
He was good in Euphoria.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So is it Priscilla is that thing?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
He was Elvis and Priscilla.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I have Elvis movie fatigue. I still kind of have
a bad taste in my mouth from when he was
like the Kissing Booth was so stupid. I hated those man.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He's already dragging his Netflix roles. Probably won't work over
there again, at least for the time being.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So like that kind of docked some points. He doesn't
really do it for me. I don't think.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He's like the heart throb. I get it why he's
called the heart throb thought, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like, mah, I just think for an actor, you can
only rely on your good looks for so long. Yeah,
and I think he's lucky to have gotten some pretty
good roles like being on Euphoria, being able to play Elvis,
and I think Saltburn kind of put him on that
trajectory of becoming more of a household name. But I
don't think he's there yet. I think people movie. I
think people recognize him now, and when you are so
(06:07):
good looking, people pay attention to you. But I think
if he doesn't have that one major role in the
next three or four years, I don't think he's gonna
have the longevity that all these other actors are going
to have. But at number eight, I put Anya Taylor
Joy love her. They describe her as the John rac Queen.
She is twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Years old, her style is phenomenal, and.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
She's been around for a while. The first movie I
saw her in was a horror movie called The Witch,
and she has done so many different types of movies,
from horror to animated movies. She did The Queen's Gambit, which.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Was Queen's Game but was so good had us all wanting.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
To play chess. It's not even a I mean it's
not a movie, it's a mini series. But to me,
that feels like a really long movie.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We got not own a chruss up because of that
mini series.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
We almost got one. Okay, we were like, let's start
playing chess.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I don't know how to play truss.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I learned how to play back in the day. I
could probably pick it up again. I'm not good at it.
I just know how to play. But I really like
Taylor Joy. She was although Furiosa, you didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I just thought she wasn't in like the first hour, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Because it was a lot more focused on the young
young Furiosa. And then once she came into play, I
felt the movie was much stronger without her in it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But then I was bored because an hour had already
gone by and I was like, we still have an
hour and a half of this movie. So the fact
that she wasn't in it made me bored, and then
I didn't enjoy the part she was in. She also
is notable because she has such a unique like fashion
sense and style. She's got like the milky white complexion,
the very blonde hair.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Very distinct.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
She's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
She does like couldtoure very well, like I always see
it like fashion week.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think she's on the cover of Vogue on the
coffee table right now.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like she just I love her as an actress, and
I also just like her. It's like a fashion icon.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think my favorite movie of hers so far is
probably The Menu, and I think that's because that was
so good. That was when we went into not having
a whole lot of expectations and the journey you go
through in that movie, all the ups and downs and
just that level of shock and surprise. To make a
movie about people going to a fancy restaurant and then
being served as food and then all these crazy things
(08:09):
start happening is bizarre in itself, and I feel like
that's one movie that maybe when it came out back
in twenty twenty two that people missed, but it is.
I think it's still on Max.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Go watch it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I haven't seen that movie by this point because even
just looking at the poster, looking at the title of it,
it's not the most enticing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I was gonna say, even though it is a movie
about a restaurant, if you have a weak stomach.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Maybe don't. Yeah, I'll give that warning.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Movies about restaurants, TV shows about restaurants, like The Bear
that just makes you anxious.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Reminds me of that tweet that I saw that was like, ah,
had a hard day. I think I'll sit down and
watch FX's very calming show The Bear, which was satirical
because The Bear is one of the most stressful television people.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I haven't watched people yelling at each other, throwing things,
spitting at each other. Oh, it's great. Moving on with
the list, I put this person at number seven, Jenna Ortega.
They describe her as the gen Z Obsession. She's only
twenty one years old, which is wild to me.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Why does that make me feel old?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Out of all these she is the youngest. It's also
the fact that she's been around for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like she has done so much already. She had a.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Small role in the MCU, so she is technically in
the MCU very small role, but has been in the
spotlight for a very long time. But I feel like
in the last five years has really skyrocketed because of Wednesday.
I really enjoyed her in the Scream movies, although she's
not doing those anymore, but I feel like she is
kind of cornered that gen Z horror market.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Then she's gonna do beetlejuice. She's got like the what's
the it's not like scary, spooky.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, she has spooky. Market.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
People have described her as the new Scream Queen, although
I don't feel like she's done anything well. She wasn't
ex Yeah. I think she is like the modern day
Scream Queen, kind of like Jamie Lee Curtis was back
in the seventies and eighties. Like that's who we have
now is Jenna Ortega, and I think it's really powerful
to have somebody at her level to also have such
a young audience, which I think is why the Scream
(10:03):
movies did so well, because that was kind of reviving
that franchise to a younger audience where you're not really
making those movies anymore for the people who are the
fans of the originals back in the nineties. You're trying
to introduce those to a whole new audience who have
never seen any of those movies. So I think that's
why probably the older fans aren't really tuning into those movies,
but they're not made for them anymore. They put Jitta Ortega,
(10:25):
so young people go watch that, and I think that
is the feeling I got when going to see those
screen movies with her, it kind of felt like going
to the movies on a Friday night back in the
day again. And I really haven't had that feeling in
a while. But I feel that she is gonna be
around for a really long time, being only twenty one
years old and already crushing it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Can't believe you're sly twenty one? Wow, and she was
born in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, that's weird now that if we go buy alcohol,
all they have to look at our idea is the one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, just the one, just the one.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You're good, sir.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That is wild.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
But I feel like at number seven is a good
spot for her because at number six I have Florence Pugh,
who the Hollywood Reporter lists her as the chameleon. She
is twenty eight years old, which I feel is a
great description of her.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
She's younger than me. All these people are younger than she.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
She seems not in a mean way, but she seems older.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She's just very mature. She carries herself older.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I hate the description she has an old soul, but
when you see her in interviews, and also probably because
she has been around for a while, I mean She's
in one of my favorite movies, mid Soma, which does
a fantastic job in It is a horror movie that
I love and early on I recommend it to people,
and it's one of those movies you either love or
you hate.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I read the Wikipedia synopsis of it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Most people hate it. But I like those types of movies,
and she is just I feel like she is so
dedicated to every role that she does. Oh absolutely, she
is what I would call quoting community streets ahead of
other actors. Is that I feel like she could take
a mediocre role and make it so much better because
of the level that she cares about.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Roles range too.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, she's also done MCU movies. She was in
Black Widow, which a lot of people didn't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I liked Black Widow a lot same.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think it's also because of the time it came out.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It was like the first movie we saw back in theater, Pandemic.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I haven't had a Marvel movie since End Gave. I
was itching for one. We were coming off of having
a new Marvel movie every few months. They were doing
three year and they were all dominating. I feel that
movie got robbed of the time they decided to finally
put it out. Black Widow should have had her introduction
back in the first phase of The Avengers. I think
it would have made her entire character journey more impactful.
(12:35):
So it kind of felt like, oh, they're gonna do
kind of a prequel to her story. So were there
some CGI and special effects things kind of off in
that movie that were a little bit cringe worthy? Yeah, probably,
But I think overall, finally getting to know Black widow
story was entertaining to me.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know what, now we can compare it to the
poster child for terrible superhero movies.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Madam Web.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's better than Madam Web.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Way better than Madam Web. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Because I watch Black Widow and unless I'm one of
these mega nerds, which I'm saying this as a.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Nerd, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And also there are also these level of mega nerds
that don't want to see anything with the female lead
do well, which is weird. There's just this like weird
kind of misogyny. Yes, that's what it is that they
have of like every superhero needs to have these qualities,
and all they do is describe qualities of male superheroes.
They can't show any emo, Like, it's just weird that
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people will just hate on a movie because it's female led, and.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
People hate on a lot of things because it's female lad.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Which I think that is enough to be a movie.
That is probably a lot of reason why that movie
got a lot of hate, why all the New Star
Wars movies get a lot of hate. Anything with a
female lead, some dudes are just going to have a
problem with and that's annoying. Anyway, back to the list,
at number five, Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I knew she was gonna be on this lite.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Would they describe as the hustler? She is twenty six
years old.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Speaking of Madam Web, that should have been.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh yeah, she was a Madam Web and they describe
her as the hustler. I feel like the only reason
she took that role.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What she said was to build a relationship with Sony.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Exactly smart and in the last few roles that she's
done Madam Webb, Immaculate and anyone but you, I feel
like two of those were strategic forming relationship roles. Immaculate
was good, yeah, probably the third act and it was
greatly due to her performance. But I don't really see
her doing more horror movies after that. It kind of
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felt like she was trying something out seeing if it worked,
adding that onto a resume because you hadn't done a
horror movie And probably also why she did Madam Webb
because she wanted to do a superhero movie, because I
feel like that's kind of like actors probably at one point,
like once you do a superhero movie, you're totally tapped
in if it does well. But I think she probably
also got confused like Dakota Johnson's people did, and thought
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she was going to be in the MCU, which is
entirely different, And if you don't know that going into it,
then you're already setting yourself up for failure. But I
I think describing her as the hustler is a great
way to kind of represent that she is doing everything
she can right now.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's like we're not even giving her enough credit for
being like the businesswoman that she is. Like she's light
years ahead in thinking longevity of her career.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Because I think with anything now, you can't just be
one thing. An actor really just can't rely on their
acting skills alone, because if you look at just how
they're being paid and how if you're doing Netflix or
any other streamer movies, you're not getting any residuals. You're
making less money from acting, so you have to have
it at all. You have to do the other things
and do the partnerships and really expand your entire brand
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more so than you could back in the nineties and
two thousands.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
And Chelsea did White Lotus Euphoria like she's got the
Max series down.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, I think that's a whole other thing. Is I
feel like before you were looked at as being a
better actor if you did movies, because that was like
the gold standard. Now it really doesn't anymore. You can
do movies, and sometimes TV shows are more coveted if
they perform better. So it all comes down to I
don't really think you have to look at yourself. Even
though all these people I would consider movie stars, they
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could easily jump into a series and it doesn't look like,
oh they're taking a step back because they're doing a
TV show. I don't think that's the case anymore. So
I think that also is a big part of why
she's successful. Obviously built a big fan base with Euphoria, which, again,
like we were talking about Jenna Ortega having that young
gen Z audience already built into you, already wanting to
follow you. I think that is great having on her resume.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So she was also great when she hosted SNL. Forgot
about that because they did the whole thing about like
she and Glenn powerly leaned into like the rumors about them,
and then she was like, my fiance is even here
tonight and then they like pan over to Glenn Powe
on the audience, which was so funny, and then playing
into it was great. Yeah, I think she's incredibly smart,
like above being talented as an actress, I think she's
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very like savvy. And she also got a lot of
hate when she sat online that she couldn't pay her
rent and then she was like, no, I don't think
people understand like how difficult it is to be an
actor actress, like break into this, like it's not not
everything is a giant paycheck exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I kind of had that same feeling when I
saw her say that, But I also had to think
about what point of her career that she was at.
It was really just while she was still on Euphoria,
and you think about how much you probably get paid
for that show, which it's a HBO show that's not
probably paying as high as some of the other TV shows.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Or paying as some of the other leads.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like, yeah, you have a guy that's probably making bank
above Sidney Sweeney because she's the name drawing it to
the show.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And I think overall, for a budget on that show,
HBO doesn't really bring in mass ratings like a you know,
a regular channel.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Would, although we did, everyone did break HBO Max when
we all tried to watch The Mary of East Town finale.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's true. And then you also have to consider you
have to pay your agent, you have to pay your publicist.
You have all these people, and by the time all
that gets taken out, you're not making if you get
paid even.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like yeah, it's like taking the lump sum of lottery.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But then that's why you have to do all these
other things. And then we were already kind of mentioning it.
But at number four, I have Glenn Powell.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Only at number four.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I haven't met number four. I think the top three
is I can't wait to hear the top three. Then
I'll say this before I get into it, but number
three is one that is not my favorite. But I
feel that he is in the top three over Glenn Powell,
but they describe Glenn Powell as the megawatt smile. And
the interesting thing is he's thirty five, and out of
everybody on this list, he is the oldest, and he's
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also been around a while. But I kind of feel
like it's the best New Artist category at the Grammys,
where sometimes you have people who have been around a while,
but they finally put out a project or a song
that gets a lot of attention and they are qualified
for that category, even though it could be an artist
already in their forties who has already been wildly successful
in other areas. It almost takes that big look to
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really put people, Oh they're a thing now, we got
to put him in this category even though he's thirty five.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I don't feel like I can say anything else I
have said in the past few weeks.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because he was even in the Dark Knight Rises, that scene.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Where he was he was a banker, yeah street.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Where Bain goes and puts his arm on him, and
I'd forgot about that. So he has been acting for
a really long time. He's had smaller roles, but also
shows you how hard it is to break into be
at that a list level. I do think it's interesting
how they describe him as the megawatt smile, which I
didn't really think about until I went to go and.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
He watched his Twisters press tour.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It never really set in with me that that's kind
of his distinct thing of like his big, like welcoming grin,
because it's.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Very much like Matthew McConaughey and the like homegrown Texas,
like southern like he very much emulates that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You think Matthew McConaughey is a little intimidated by him,
or he just kind of accepts that there's gonna be
somebody newer.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think they vibe they did a vanity fair. It's
like a not an actor's on actors, but like an
article where McConaughey interviewed.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Because there's just so many parallels between the two there are.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But I also feel like McConaughey is kind of he
just does his own thing, doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I saw him once at a Texas football game. He
was with this kid getting a snow cone, and people
were like following him, and I felt really bad because
his kid looked really scared. Oh and I was like,
that's a like line, like his kid was literally just
trying to get his kid was like four at the time,
and people were just swarming him. And I was like,
when they have their like small children, like that's off limits.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That is Yeah, that is like he he's the type.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Of person that if you see him anywhere else in Austin,
he will say hi, smile, Like even anywhere else with
like the stadium, he's by himself, but like kids back off.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, well at number three, you're not gonna like this one.
But I feel like this is a perfect slot for him.
It is Austin Butler.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh, I knew it. For the Hollywood Reporter knew it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Described as the Golden Boy. He is thirty two years old.
And the reason I put him above Glenn Powell is
because of Elvis Oh. I think that role, even though
you had their love or hate, it put him on
an entire hirely different level. And I think the people
in the top three have that one defining role.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But here's the thing, and I feel like I have
found myself being an Austin Butler hater lately, and I
don't mean to be, but it's like his projects after that,
like Masters of Air. We gave up watching that, and
I thought I was gonna be so excited. World War
two planes, Austin Butler, great cast. What's that other guy's name?
Callum Turner one dating Duelipa do people? I thought it
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was gonna be great, didn't like that bike Riders? Like
he just I feel like it's that curse of like
you get a great role and then you are type cast.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Is that forever?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I will say, I think those two examples you had
after that are for an entirely different audience, and we
are just not in that audience because I think I
could see Grandma's loving him.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
What grandma's are going to see bike Riders?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I think Masters of the Air was probably more for
an older audience.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What grandma's have Apple TV? Well, my grandparents running have nets.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I see more Grandma's being into Masters of the Air,
and then I see like an older guy being into
bike riders.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You're calling me and grandma for like king on my
World War two books?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Well, the time period, the time period I've taken yourself
into a different audience, so I could see him kind
of appealing to that more than say like a Janet
ortego Who's that's.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Honestly insulting to his career, though, like I don't, you're
not building a case for him at number three. You
just said Grandma's with like his performance and older dudes
in a byte gang.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know how successful the TV show NCIS is that
has a much older audience.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I forget that that show is still around blue Bloods.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I feel like sometimes, like even talking about movies, talking
about TV shows, we focus on the things that we
like and also coincide with the things that are popular
on you know, on social media, people talk about the
most right, those aren't always the most watched me going
to see long Legs. Not everybody's going to see that,
They're going to see Despicable Me before. So it's those
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things that we reach a much wider audience, like the
NCIS is the Blue Bloods. Stop thinking about and people
hate when I bring up that reference because some people
love it. I know some people love it.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Watched the first few seasons of Blue Bloods when I
lived at home because my mom watched it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Pretty good show.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So I think if you were trying to reach the
biggest audience in Middle America, I feel like Austin Butler
is going to take roles that speak to that more.
He's gonna land more in if he takes the right
roles in the level of like a Tom Hanks. I'm
not comparing him to Tom Hanks, but as far as
doing roles that everybody can does.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
He have upcoming projects, I'm gonna look that up.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He's not somebody that I'm fully in tune with everything
that he does. Sometimes it's not until I see the
trailer for it that I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Like, all, I give him another chance. He's the same
age as you. Yeah, oh yeah, he was in Dune.
Parduc also didn't like that one.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
But I thought he'd showed at least a different side
in Dune two.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Hannamontane. We did a lot of tea.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, back when he's still talk like a normal human
and now was old dog and like he's still talking
like Elvis.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
He has one thing coming out contemporary Western black comedy film.
I don't even understand that genre is a twenty four
I was.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Gonna say, I think it was an a twenty four movie.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Petter mescal INMM The Stone, Luke Grimes, Austin Butler, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Because I think he can walk that line of doing
the big blockbuster but also having that indie darling look
where he could go do an a twenty four movie.
I think he'd be pretty versatile, which I think all
these actors can do and have already done. But at
number two, I have Zendeiya, who is described by the
Hollywood Reporter as the Unicorn. She is twenty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
She's perfect, and she is absolutely perfect. She is she
is just perfection. She has had such a long career
already at twenty seven, from the Disney Channel to the
Spider Man Euphoria Challengers like I'm Sinday's b I love her.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Speaking of Euphoria, I don't think that's going to get
another final season.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think they'll ever coming back, which is a.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Bit of a bummer because of how good every single
season that was and how just I feel like everybody
who loved that show was just like they're watching the
moment it came out. It was just such a moment there.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Everyone's like gotten too big almost for them to film,
especially with the strike last year. I feel like that
pushed back filming and then everyone's taken on other projects.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I feel that's gonna happen with Euphoria.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Also with The Bear. Those people are getting so famous,
and so.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They already filmed season four.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I think that could be. Hey, it's Mike popping
in here. In between the time we recorded this episode
and released it, Euphoria actually announced they're officially said to
begin production in January twenty twenty five. All the main
cast members are returning for a new season. So maybe
I spoke it into existence. I'm glad to be wrong
on this one because they looks like we're getting a
new season of Euphoria. So just wanted to pop in
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here and give this update. Now back to the episode.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I also don't see the need for shows to be
so long anymore. Like I think, if you wrap a
story up well, like if you for it doesn't come
back at all, I'll be really sad because it did
end on a cliffhanger.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But like the Bear, if they wrap it up nicely,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Think shows need twenty seasons like Gray's Anatomy, like we
should have stopped that train eight seasons ago, like that
went straight off the rails. So I think if things
can be wrapped up nicely, not everything needs ten seasons.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I mean back in the day, everything had to have
not only a good amount of seasons. I felt like
six was like the minimum, but also they were doing
twenty four episode seasons and that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I do love that when I'm binging the show.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I'm currently binging The Resident on Netflix, and I love
how many episodes are.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Don't even mention how much I watched. Okay, I know
you were about to let that number slip. Please do not.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's more than the number of Dragon Ball Super episodes
that I've watched. Fine, and I've watched thirty three of those.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, really you had to put me on blast the.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But mine are only twenty minutes, So maybe that's unfair.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That's even worse because now you're saying that I watched
forty five I've been an episode.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Just stop talking.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But yes, at number two is Zendaya at number one?
Can you guess it? Tom Holland, No, I feel like
he's the class before.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Ok Can I have a hint?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
He's twenty eight years old. Hollywood Reporter describes him as
the sure thing, so it's a het.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Has he been in anything we watched recently? Yes, I
feel like this was one of my Daily New York
Times games.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I think you can get this, Oh timmy, tim Timothy Shallomey,
there you go, thank you. I think both him and
Zendia at one and two. I think any major role
is theirs to turn down. I feel like, if you
have a big movie coming out, you need a big star.
If it's male, you want Timothy Alime. If it's female,
you want Zendia. And then if they say no, it
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goes on to everybody else. I feel like they can
do anything they want, work with any director, play any character.
Timothy shallome going to be Bob Dylan is probably awesome
for him, only he could do that right now. Zendia
could play anybody she wants him.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Dating Kylie Jenner's really just still throwing me off together.
Such an odd pairing. They are such a weird pairing
to me. She's kids and he's like a theater kid.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Like, yeah, it's a weird pairing to me. I also
love his sister, Pauline. She's in the Sex Lives of
College Girls on HBO. I think she's a great actress,
so clearly the talent runs in the family.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But he is also somebody that I feel I like
both on and off screen. Even though him in the
biggest fan of the Dune franchise, loved him in Wonka,
loved Twonka, loved him in like the eight twenty four
movies like Ladybird, so he's also done it all. He
was great Little Women.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
He was so funny on SNL.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, he's also great at comedy.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Him and Pete Davidson I sing there like little rap song.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It was Pete Davidson, right, yeah, Okay, So that was
their list that I decided to rank. Some people I
feel that were snabbed a little bit and maybe because
they're just on the cusp of it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Ooh, I know one Iowa Debris.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
That's one of mine. Yep, yep. I feel like she's
almost right there because of the bear she was just
and inside out too.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
She's so funny and she.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Was great in Bottoms. I feel like she needs that
one big role to really break through.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It's also in Theater Camp also great, one of our
favorite indie movies of last year.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
So I think when she has that major role, she
is I mean, she's gonna make a lot of money
up inside out too.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I'm trying to think of someone do you have other people.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
In ideas Okay, hmmm, somebody else who I'll say, Neippo
baby in a TV show. I love also have been
a fan of her movies Mya Hawk, Maya Hawk. I
thought she would be on the list, But.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I very into her music recently too. Yeah, my howk
Kick And I.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Didn't really want to like it because I feel like
I was like, now, she get into music too. I
listened to it. Oh, I like this is fun. I
listened to it a lot. I mean, with stranger things.
I feel like she could be in that top ten.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
How could you not be so talented? Though, when your
parents are Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It's unfair to have that much talent.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's like you're just meant to be beautiful and like talented.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because not yet. Like you said, not only do you
get the good looks from both of them.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But they're also phenomen actors and you're just yeah, you
just you grow up in that industry.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Another one I have. I'm also in the same show as.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Maahawk Millie Poppy Prown.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I feel like she is really trying to make
her film career work. She's so young, she is really young.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
She is she's so young.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I almost feel like she is experienced with Daisy, really
experienced post star wars of you get these big roles
offered to you and you take them because you are
the star now that can have that first billing in
a movie. But I feel like she hasn't picked the
right roles yet.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I love her and Bunjovie's son. They're so cute together.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
She did that Netflix movie Damsel, and I was like,
what do you watch that? I started, it got about
halfway through and I realized, like, I don't care where
this movie goes. So I never really reviewed it or talked.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
About it in the same vein. I have one add
to the list. What you got Joey King. I'm a
big Joey King fan.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now where does that come from?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
She was great in The Kissing Booth Okay, loved her
in a Family Affair.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
She was also in The Dark Night Ride, which Powell.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And she did. We Were the Lucky Ones on Hulu,
which was based on a book.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yes, I think she's I mean her range is incredible.
She could do a Netflix rom com. She did traditional
rom com where she wasn't the main rom colm. She
wasn't the main character and then to do like a
historical drama like that.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I just think she's great.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
When I almost added on the list, even though they've
been around a while, I feel like they are the
hottest now that they've ever been, but are older. Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was gonna say Jeremy Allen White too. I thought
you were gonna because also the Bear.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Shameless, but I feel like the Bear he wasn't doing
Colvin Klein ads, but when he was on Shameless.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Iron Claw, Yeah, dang, I would should put them on
my list too. And somebody who I feel is on
the bubble is Margaret Quayley, Yes, I feel like and
Joseph Quinn, who was also in Stranger Things in a
Quiet Place day one.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I didn't put it.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I know you said he was in Stranger Things, but
until I saw something like a clip of him, I
was like, Oh, that's who he is.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, but I loved him in Quiet Place.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He's also gonna be in Gladiator too, so he could
be up there too. But that is the list. I
feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I feel good about like some Frost from Baller.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I know I knew you weren't gonna like that. Well,
come back I'll give my review of Long Legs, and
in the trailer park we'll talk more about well gladiit
or two. Let's get into it now, a spoiler free
movie review of Long Legs. Long Legs has been described
as the scariest movie of the year. I think for
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the most part that is self proclaimed. But they used
it in every single poster and trailer, and I think
they did a fantastic job marketing this movie. It reminded
me of Oreo back in the day marketing themselves as
America's favorite cookie proof they weren't well. I guess they
got sued or somebody said they couldn't use that, But
I think it's a great way to market the movie.
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There are some pros and constant that. The pro is
you have people talking about it, buzzing about it, and
that's what I had going into this movie. Didn't even
look at any reviews online. But the people in my
life started telling me about this movie who had seen
it before me, and we're building that hype for me.
So that's the pro. You have people talking about it,
is it gonna live up to that title the scariest
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movie of the year. The con is you're gonna have
people say scariest movie of the year. I'll go into
that movie. It won't scare me. And you have like
this wall around you going into it that you already
think in your head this is gonna be scary. So
I'm not gonna let it scare me. So what this
movie did was build that hype. And those first people
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who went to go watch it and started raving about
it and like, I will tell you about it now,
are gonna build this hype for this movie because it
is that good. But the problem is that people who
go watch it on the second week, third week later
on streaming are gonna hear that hype and then say,
wasn't that scary? Everybody over hyped it. That is just
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what happens with a good movie like this, and over
hyped movie doesn't mean that it's bad. It just means
that it was probably so good that people were raving
about it, people were wanting to tell other people to
go see this movie. So there's no way you can
live up to that expectation. But for me, was it
the scariest movie of the year. I am going to
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say yes. I loved everything about Long Legs, and I
don't want to Obviously, I never spoil anything on this podcast.
I don't really talk past the first act, but there
are details in this movie that I don't even feel
would be spoilers, but I won't even get into them
because this is one of those movies that and even
the smallest details feel like really big things that you discover.
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So there are things I could tell you about the
characters that I loved, but I don't want to get
into it because I want you to see this if
you're a horror fan and experience it for yourself without
knowing a whole lot about the plot, because I really
didn't know too much about it. And here's what the
actual description of the movie is. In a pursuit of
a serial killer, an FBI agent uncovers a series of
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occult clues that she must solve to end a terrifying
killing spree. A longer description is FBI agent Lee Harker,
who was one of my favorite horror leads in a
really long time, because horror movies like this tend to
have a female lead, but sometimes they're always written the
same way. What I loved about Lee Harker in this movie,
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played by Michael Munroe, is that she had a different personality.
She was a little bit socially awkward, very introverted. She's
an FBI agent, so obviously she's very smart and has
a passion for law enforcement obviously to get to that level,
But she was so unlike any other lead I've seen
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in a horror movie like this that I just felt
like her character was refreshing and it wasn't the same
thing over and over. So she has this gift that
they talk about early in the movie where they either
think she is psychic or just has a really good
intuition when it comes to solving crimes. So she gets
put onto this case of the long Legs Killer, who
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has this really weird calling card that they leave letters
at the murders with these encrypted symbols that she later
has to try and figure out. So that's the first
part of her tackling this case. So it kind of
reminded me of Zodiac, which is a great David Fincher movie.
And I would say the first act of this movie
very much just felt like a true crime movie where
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there were some horror elements. It really leaned into the sounds,
which a couple weeks ago in the trailer park where
I started talking about this movie, I showcased the very
haunting sounds in the movie, and I think that is
really what it leaned into very early on, where it
let your mind kind of go crazy because it didn't
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really show you a whole lot, but just building this
tension through these really big shots with the character just
right there in the center, these slow pans into this
mysterious darkness, and just those sounds that allowed you sitting
there in the theater to freak yourself out, not by
showing you, but you in your mind thinking what could
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be there, what could be making these really crazy sounds.
What this movie really did a good job was was
setting that tone of terror, and how did they do that.
So much of this movie takes place at night, and
oftentimes Lee Harker, the agent, is always alone, so you
always start to freak herse out because she's alone, nothing
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around her, She's hearing things, and everything is dark. So
for the majority of this movie, the entire theater was dark.
So I really feel like that helped overall with making
me feel more and more scared as the movie went along.
Sometimes I was wondering, like, why is she always alone?
And why does she always have all the lights off.
But that's just horror movies for you. So continuing on
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with the description of this movie, as the case takes
complex turns unearthing evidence of the occult Harker to discovers
a personal connection to the merciless killer, and the race
to stop him before he claims the lives of another
innocent family. So that is essentially the plot of the movie.
And at an hour and thirty six minutes, the movie
really wasted no time diving right into the story pretty upfront,
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giving you some disturbing images, and then really walking that
line of giving you things building story, giving you scary things,
building story, and even when you think that it starts
to lose you just a little bit, it sucks you
back in. And for me, when I go watch a
horror movie like this, most times I can predict how
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the movie is going to end. The last movie that
happened in was Smile. Within that first twenty minutes, I
already knew exactly how that movie was going to end.
They really built a lot of the scary moments through
jump scares, which can feel a little bit cheap, but
overall Smile was still a pretty good horror movie. But
Long Legs is on an entirely different level. You can
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tell within the opening scene that it just feels different
when it comes to the score of this movie, even
when it comes to the graphics and the text, and
how all the flashback scenes are framed differently, where normally
the scene takes up the entire screen in the movie theater,
but then these flashback scenes have like this little square
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has that home movie type from like back in the
seventies and eighties, and even that on its own was
just creepy in itself. Whenever the entire screen goes red
and you have the black letters, it just really brings
that energy to the movie. That paired with the excellent
cinematography where I really loved how they framed the characters.
They didn't feel the need to have, you know, big
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cinematic close ups. They would often frame Michah Moore in
the middle almost bottom half of the screen and showed
so much of the background, so really gave you this
feeling of emptiness. You could kind of feel her anguish
a little bit more when the scenes were framed that way.
So I thought that was really great. So she did fantastic.
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It looked fantastic. The score was fantastic. But then you
throw in Nicholas Cage as long Legs, who looks unrecognizable
and is so freaky in this movie. I knew that
it was Nicholas Cage because he is listed in the
credits very front of the movie. They say Nicholas Cage
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has long legs. But while watching this movie, you could
convince me that that was not Nicholas Cage because with
this makeup he had on, this wig, the prosthetics they
had on his face did not look like him whatsoever.
And sometimes Nicholas Cage is a little bit hit or miss.
I don't always think it's his performances. Sometimes I just
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feel like he doesn't pick the best roles. But if
you put Nicholas Cage in a great role, especially in Horror,
where all of his kookiness can really come out, that
mixed with a great director, Nicholas Cage is a great actor.
His performance really made the movie. Whenever his character was
on screen, you could not look away. And that's really
what happened. That was my experience because thirty minutes into
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this movie, I had to go pee, but I did
not want to miss a single thing because it felt
like every single scene was building up this story and
I didn't want to miss a single second of it,
so I held it for the entire time. Luckily, this
movie is less than two hours, so didn't pee my pants.
Os Perkins did a fantastic job as a director and
left nothing on the table, which is always my biggest
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gripe when it comes to horror movies because I always
feel like they want to set it up for a
second one, they want to build a franchise. This one
gave you everything and it felt like a very complete, twisted,
dark fairy tale to you with hell kids at night
to terrorize them. Go to sleep right now, or Long
Legs is coming for you. And what makes this movie
(41:52):
so polarizing is the lore created around Long Legs. And
you wanted to know more about this character than giving
you some detail but not giving you everything. It's the
mystery behind it. You don't need to know every detail,
you don't need to know the entire origin story. Just
seeing this character is terrifying enough, and really the less
you know, the more scary it is in your mind.
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Which I love horror movies that allow you to build
that terror in your brain because where your imagination can
go sometimes is even scarier than what they can show
you on the screen. Another thing I picked out from
the trailer of this movie that if you turn up
your laptop or your phone brightness a little bit more,
you see these little easter eggs of things hiding in
(42:37):
the dark. In the movie. I paid attention to that
because there are little flashes of sinister characters that create
these little easter egg moments that blink and you miss it,
but if you do see it, it scares as a
crap out of you. So yes, it is the scariest
horror movie of the year. But not only that, I
think one of the best theater experiences I've had so
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far will probably make my top ten movies at the
end of the year. A rare occurrence where my entire
theater was silent throughout the entire movie. You could hear
a pin drop in this theater because everybody was so
tuned in wanting to see what was going to happen next.
That rarely happens. I will say it's a different type
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of scary because I remember leaving the theater after watching
The Conjuring for the first time, and I was a
little bit freaked out to go Out to My Car.
I probably had a nightmare that night, and that was
the last movie to really scare me in theaters because
of just the shock value of that movie. This one
was a little bit different. It almost felt like this
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movie put me in a trance. While I was watching it,
I was just not there. I was kind of observing
my own body taken this film. But as soon as
the movie was over, the credits rolled and I left
the theater, it was like that trance went away. So yes,
it is scary, but really, to me, it felt more
cinis and unsettling, anxiety inducing, and a very rare thing
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for a movie to really ramp up at the end.
I feel like they put a cinder block on the
gas pedal and balls to the wall to close out
this movie. There are like two or three things that
I had a little bit of an issue with that
I don't even want to reveal to you because I
feel they lean on the spoiler side. So I feel
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like Long Legs is an almost perfect movie. I give
it four point five out of five FBI agents.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's time to head down to movie mikes.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Traylor, Paul Haho. I didn't expect to be this excited
about Gladiator too, But I have to say, after watching
the trailer, it looks amazing Ridley Scott pulling something out
of his butt, and I think we all deserve it.
Napoleon really let most of us down last year. So
(45:04):
what Gladiator two is about is interesting because it's connected
to the first one. It takes place years later, but
now it follows the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's character in
the original, played by Paul mescal who we're talking about earlier,
And I was saying in that segment how I didn't
(45:28):
really feel like he was a list star worthy. Although
he's shown a lot of great abilities as an actor,
he hasn't really showed me a whole lot of range
outside of that. But he is that Indie darling. But
seeing him in this trailer being ferocious and it being
a movie about rage and revenge, I was so pleasantly surprised,
not only with his performance in this three minute trailer,
(45:49):
but also the fact that dude looks ripped his arms
I am jealous of. And I also didn't really know
that about him. He almost seemed more like a Timothy
shallow May type to me. But seeing how much he
dedicated to getting his physique up for this movie, and
looks the part, I feel like this movie is going
to be firing on all cylinders. It looks to have
(46:11):
that action. It looks like the movie that really Scott
probably wanted to make twenty years ago, back in two thousand,
when you really didn't have the same special effects. It
was probably still too expensive. And now this movie makes sense,
which is interesting to me because it is a period
piece that takes place way back in the day, and
to think that you need advanced technology to make a
(46:34):
movie like that look really good is something that I
really wouldn't expect from a movie. You think that it
would be more of like the sci fi movies from
the eighties that would be more benefited by technology. Now,
I didn't really see that coming in a period piece,
which happens to be one of my least favorite genres
of movies, because I just feel like they're so drawn
out the characters. There's so many names to remember, and
(46:57):
I feel like it's always heavy on the dialogue and
not so much on the action. But by the looks
of this trailer and all the things you have coming out,
I think it is going to be good. So before
I get into more what I think about Gladiator too,
he's just a little bit of the trailer.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Ye arena turned slaves into gladiators and the gladiators into
free men.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
You have something. I knew it from the start, then
June lay a wage you should get so, like I said,
he is playing the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's character, So
I feel like his story is gonna be much different
than Russell Crowe's story in the original movie because he
(47:38):
comes from noble beginnings, but yet we still find him
in the arena fighting as a gladiator. So it looks
like this movie is going to have him starting out
living in North Africa. Then he's gonna have to come
back to Rome, fight as a gladiator, gonna make some
new enemies, gonna reunite with his mom. Movie is coming
out on November twenty second. So in addition to Paul
(47:59):
Mesk playing the lead in this movie, you also have
Petro Pascal, who looks just so at home in this role.
It reminds me of his time on Game of Thrones,
which I think he does this type of period just
really well. You also have Denzel Washington, who looks so
unlike I've seen him in a very long time. I
love Denzel Washington in a menacing role, give me his
(48:22):
vibe when he did movies like Training Day. He looks
vicious in this movie, and for his last couple of
films that I feel really haven't been the right tone
as far as what I want from Denzel Washington. Seeing
him now in this trailer makes me think that he
just needed a great director to work with, and I think,
really Scott is going to be one to get a
really great performance out of him, even though I feel
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like at this point in Denzel's career he's kind of
like what Tom Brady was at the Buccaneers or even
in The Patriots, where he's kind of calling his own shots.
You don't really coach Denzel Washington on how to act.
But I feel like with as many oscar as he has,
as much of a legacy that he has in film,
he's not really an actor that you're gonna give notes
(49:07):
to at the end of the day. Ridley Scott really
has an incredible range. His last movies include Napoleon, how Sagucci,
The Last Duel, but he's also famous for movies like
Thelma and Louise Alien Blade Runner, Blackhawk Down, and the
Original Gladiator from the year two thousand is probably one
of the most defining movies of the two thousands, although
(49:30):
I do feel like it's one that I'm surprised as
getting a sequel, And sometimes for the most part now
people just get enraged by sequels. People tend to hate
on franchises and Hollywood being unoriginal, and sometimes I get
on that train. There are some instances that I feel
are just mere cash grabs, and the reason we see
(49:52):
these so much is because movies are going to bank
on things that make money, what makes money, things that
people are familiar with. That is why so many remakes
get made, and also why so many remakes get promoted
so much. So to all the people online saying that
everything's a remake, nothing is original, you're probably only paying
(50:12):
attention to the things being fed to you because they
have the most money behind them. And yes, they're gonna
bank on the sheer thing. They're gonna bank on things
that have worked in the past, and they're gonna be
familiar with and gonna get your butt into that seat.
Because just by doing this podcast, I could name you
ten original movies that came out in the last year
that were all great, but all those people probably didn't
(50:36):
go see So the original movies are there, they just
aren't the ones you're having shoved down your throat. Have
to seek out a little bit. But original movies are
being made, and I do think there will be a
rise in indie filmmaking in the next few years. But
that being said, I don't feel like Gladiator is one
of those cash grab movies. But I think the reason
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it is getting one now and that it makes sense
is because one technology has advanced, and two I think
the story is going to be different. Nothing about this
trailer screams to me that it is forced and put
together and just being put out to kind of go
into the slate of all these movies coming out this
year that are remakes from the eighties, nineties, and two thousands.
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This really feels like something really Scott wanted to do
back twenty five years ago when he was working on Gladiator,
which one of the things he included in this movie
that's in the trailer is the rhino. He originally wanted
to put that in Gladiator, but the technology with CGI
just wasn't there. It was gonna be too expensive. But
(51:39):
now more than twenty years later, he is finally getting
that rhino and seeing it in the trailer is that
moment that I feel like every good trailer has. When
it comes to just big movies like this, you have
that one moment that really sticks out to you that
people are talking about, and it's when that rhino charges
that Paul Mescal takes them out, the rhinos noses all bloody.
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That shows me that the stakes are gonna be even
higher in this movie. The action is going to be
more brutally violent, which I love and I think, like
I mentioned earlier, rely Scott does really well. That was
a major focal point in Napoleon, although I think it
was used wasn't used the best, but it was there,
it was bloody, it was shocking, So I think we'll
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have more of that in this movie. I feel like
it's gonna have the tone of a Game of Thrones.
But what really is going to make this movie go
from being good to great is the story and hopefully
the beats of this story set itself apart from the original,
where it gives you some familiarity that we all felt
when we watched that movie for the first time, but
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is able to give us something that we aren't expecting,
which is something that sequels just miss out on because
they want to do that same movie beat for beat
that they did the first time. So we're all familiar
with it. We all feel like we got a continuation
of it. But I feel like they're already making it
different by making them the nephew of Joaquin Phoenix's Sun.
(53:05):
So I think therefore his entire hero journey is gonna
go down a different road. And you can feel that
in this trailer. You can feel him making more enemies.
Will we get another thumbs down moment? We'll have to
see again. This movie is coming out on November twenty second.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
Head that for is this week's edition of movie Line
Tramer Bar.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
And that is gonna do it for another episode here
of the podcast. But before I go, I got to
give my listeners shout out oh the week. You can
get one of these by commenting on my TikTok anything
I post on Instagram or x or Facebook. You can
always find all the links to my social media in
the episode notes of this podcast. But pretty much I'm
(53:46):
Mike ad Shro everywhere. This week's listener shout out comes
to us from X. It is from Anthony who is
on X at cntr RT. Not quite exactly sure what
that spells, but Anthony wrote, you talk about superheroes destroying cities.
Hancock with Will Smith touched on this a lot. Thanks
for that, Andrew, because I forgot about Hancock, which was
(54:08):
a superhero movie from back in two thousand and eight
that was kind of before his time. I mean iron
Man came out in two thousand and eight, So what
that movie was about is Will Smith plays like a
scruffy superhero who used to be a much better superhero,
but now he's developed a bit of a drinking problem.
He's still when he wants to help save people, but
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he's really sloppy. He'll take out a building, he'll still
be rude to the person after he saves them, and
then try least their own comes in. You have Jason
Bateman trying to do pr forum and make him be
a good guy and a better superhero. That movie really
wasn't reviewed very well, but I enjoyed that movie and
completely forgot about it. Yeah. Last week on our episode
(54:51):
recapping all of our favorite and worst movies of June,
I was just talking about how superheroes need to be
held accountable for all their actions, and when they saved
the city, they and end up destroying half the city.
So thank you Anthony for that, and thank you right
now for listening, for being subscribed, for telling a friend.
Until next time, go out and watch good movies and
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