Mark Long is BACK and Ray Walks Out

Mark Long from The Challenge All Stars is BACK so we will break down The Challenge Double Agents and how weak Fessy is. Fessy talks a lot of trash and Mark Long does a little trash talking himself to make sure Fessy knows he is just a little ant. Ray gets very upset at Lunchbox for something Lunchbox didn't realize was a big deal. Lunchbox gets some bad news on the phone and we convince Morgan #2 she has tuberculosis. Eddie thinks Lunchbox is caught in the middle of a Ponzi Scheme and doesn't know how to get out.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
We are so loser. That was cool. What up, everybody?
I am lunchbox. I know the most about sports, so
I'll give you the sports facts, my sports opinions because
I'm pretty much a sports genius. What's up, everyone, I'm
Eddie and I know the least about the sports. But
I'm your average sports fan, your sports watcher. Don't know

(00:29):
the who's who's and I don't know what's what's Listen.
I'm sorry, Okay, I know, I know listen. I know
you're mad. I get it. I mean, I honestly don't care. No, no,
you are. Ray got so raised, so mad that he's
not gonna do the podcast. Ray said, you know what, Fine,
you don't want me, then I won't do the podcast. Cool, fine, whatever.

(00:49):
So I'm sorry, but I should know now by Friday
raising a bad mood. Right, I understand that. But listen,
Mark Long, we had him on. He's the original road Ruler.
He's the one that got the Real the Challenge All
Stars back on TV. Right, he brought all the old
school people back. We had him on a few weeks ago,
and I just took over the interview and geeked out

(01:09):
the whole time. Here's the deal. When you tell us
these interviews are happening, we we prep. We're like, okay,
well let's start thinking of questions to ask him. So
me and Ray we start writing down our questions. All
I want to ask him about this. I think this
would be cool to know. And then when the interview happens,
guess what all that prep we did gone? We didn't
ask one single question, right, So I reached out and

(01:31):
I lined him back up. And then because you guys
wanted to ask questions, and then and then I didn't
tell you about him coming back right, and I did
the interview by myself again. But then at this point, coach,
I'm telling you right now, I don't give a crap.
I honestly don't have any questions. I don't really even
know the dude. I don't watch Road Rules, never watched

(01:52):
Road Rules. I watched a couple of seasons of Real
World back in the day. Don't know who he is.
So Coach, this is your guy, talk to him while
you want, and I don't. But however, Ray not happen
doesn't think the same way. Number two, what do you
think it was bad of me to bring him back
on and then not tell these guys. Well, first off,
do you know who he is? Do you watch Road Rules? No?

(02:15):
I mean I used to watch the Challenge, like way
back in the day he was on the Challenge. Yeah, okay, okay,
I might recognize him, but as far as his name, no, Yes, Lunchbox,
you totally should have told your other co host that
you were doing an interview for the podcast. You are
all on. I acknowledge your passions, dude, and I don't care.
Like if Aednie Vetter from Pearl Jam wanted to come
on and and and you guys don't know anything about him,

(02:36):
I wouldn't mind. I'll just do it by myself, and
you guys would probably be like, hey, who cares? You
know everything about him? We don't. Who cares? Right? And
that's what I felt like. I felt like I am
the the the super fan, and so it's it means
a lot to me. And so I was like, Okay,
I'll get him back on. And then the more I
thought about it, I was like, Mayne, these guys are
just gonna ask him dumb questions that no one wants
to hear. So I'm just not even gonna tell them

(02:56):
about the interview. And I didn't think it would be
that big a deal, but was so mad, so mad
as I'm out, I'm out. I'm just gonna go home.
I'm just gonna You don't want me on the podcast, Fine,
I'll just go home. And so he leaves, and so
we're back with Morgan number two for a third day. Hey,
I just wanted to hang out with God and the
no I was getting involved in a little skit scatter.

(03:17):
What are they called, maybe a tiff dust up? I
don't know, a skinter scattered. It was just words coming
out of my mouth. So we're gonna play the interview later. Yeah,
we're gonna play the interview later. Al right, like we're
gonna we're gonna add it on the podcast. And I
don't know, And I ask now that we have Morgan
number two here. Yeah, and we ended the last podcast
with her sparring. I want to know, like what happened

(03:39):
Wednesday when you got there and you sparked? Well, So
I didn't spar on Wednesday. I was just practicing boxing
on Wednesday. I only do sparring a little bit. And
right now my turner is trying to get me to
go spar against somebody who's really experienced, and I kick
grass and I don't want to do it. You can
come in one day with a black eye. It's very

(03:59):
possib a broken nose, It's all very possible. But I
do wear headgear, but it doesn't cover your nose. Oh man,
if you broke your nose, that would be get into
your box. Can you come in with tape over your nose?
Her nose is sideways, dude, It's like, oh man, and
I have a really good nose. I don't want to know.
Oh no, guy, don't scare. That's you're the one fighting it.

(04:25):
I did like her little humble brag there. I have
a good nose, Yeah, I do. I like my nose.
I don't want a new nose. Yeah, it's not a
bad nose. I've never really, I've never checked your nose out.
Have you gotten hit in the nose yet? Yeah? But again,
the headgear, the way it fits is like up on
your cheekbones, so at the very least it blocks like
they would have to really get yeah to be able

(04:47):
to hit my nose. And I hope that never happens
because I should be protecting myself, do you know, Yeah? Right,
hands up, guard up, do you know all the terminology
of a straight job uppercut haymaker. Yeah, haymaker. I don't
think that. Yell, they don't your haymaker really video games really,

(05:08):
they're not. They're not. They're not the corner going upper
cut job hey maker makers. So what's haymaker just on
video games? Yeah? I don't, yes, okay, yes, the only
thing because they usually and they don't even say jab
they say one to four and the corners they do. Yes.
But when you're training, it is across. It is a job.

(05:29):
It's a hook, and it's what's the cross. It's your
other hand. Yeah, you're your job is your main hand,
and that's my right No. So because I am right handed,
my right hand is my power hand. So your job
is your left hand that keeps the distance. Yes, So
you're just kind of hitting them like little one. Is

(05:51):
that a one? You could call that a one? Yes?
And some corners switch it up though, because you got
to have different terminology because the other corner would be like,
oh they know like catchers. Yes. Yes. And then so
your cross is your power hit, So you're switching to
your other your power side. Do you switch stands? No?
I can't are you a Orthodox or a I'm not
a South bob. I'm just normal, okay? And I is

(06:12):
that right? Is that alright? Orthodox is? Why are you
yelling at Why are you laughing at me? I don't
know Orthodox Orthodox? I never heard Orthodox. Excuse me. Go
to ESPN, look UFC and they say Orthodox stands, or
maybe they do. I don't know. Maybe maybe it just
sounds weird coming from you. Hearing did I say? I
just said maybe hearing you say it makes I'm like, man,

(06:34):
that's Joe Rogan says that it sounds cool. Maybe Orthodox though, Man,
it's the Orthodox stands. So you don't switch? You stay regular? Yeah,
I stay regular. I can switch like I'm look it up.
I'm not being a south ball. I can if I
wanted to, But I don't have to feel vulnerable. Yes, absolutely,

(07:00):
I would just always. I know it is that's funny.
I thought they just say convinced to be fair. I've
never heard it. But that's I'm not watching fights, okay.
And so when you train, your trainer goes more again,
we're gonna do a one to one to one two
combo when it's when it's okayast what is that? By

(07:25):
the way, it's my thyroid and when my allergies go up,
it really starts to act up. It's just constant flam.
Have you ever thought about getting your thyroid taken out? No,
you can do that, you know, coach. I don't think
it's like your wisdom teeth. Oh yeah, that's what you're thinking. Gold.
It's in your throat and it's just kind of a
part of you. Okay, okay. And some people get inflamed,
so mind's like inflames that acts up and then it

(07:46):
producers It produces like kind of some kind of flam. Yeah,
and when it's particularly bad when the season, they're bad,
when they change. Have you ever tested for tuberculosis? You
might want to check that because is that an STD. No,
it's not a STD. It's an airborne disease and climberculosis
and have kids. I don't know what you do? Have

(08:09):
a test shot for that? Right? No? No? You shot? Yeah?
There are there are tuberculosis shots to prevent it. Is
that the one when you step on a rusty nail
you get a TV SHOT's tentness. So toberculosis is an
airborne one and I had it. So, yeah, I was
having night sweats for years is discussing. By the way,

(08:31):
I too. I'm so intrigued. Anybody's gotten tuberculosis? So I
had I would I mean in the middle of the
nine i'd wake up, and I mean sweating. And I'm
not talking like a little beat of sweat on my head.
I'm talking like I just ran five miles. My bed
is soaked in sweat and I had to get a
towel and dry off. Okay, that doesn't happen to me

(08:51):
at night. I don't know. And so I just thought,
I thought, oh man, I need a new ceiling fan.
So I put a new ceiling fan. Is okay? Thanks
that Okay, I'm sweaty. It feels like I've been in
a pool. Let me let me fix this by changing
the ceiling fan. I just turned the air down. Well,
I thought maybe the ceiling fan wasn't working right. Okay,
maybe my blankets too heavy. Let me get a new

(09:12):
blanket now, not that, maybe my sheets. Maybe it's the
type of sheets I have, So I bought new sheets. No,
wasn't that either. Well, maybe I don't know what it is.
So finally I was at the doctor and we used
to play the clip on there. Let me clear my
throat because I always get flamed and I couldn't figure

(09:33):
it out. I was like, I don't know, guys, that's
just what happens. So bones would come to you and
you you I would start talking to like all right,
he hit the clip up and I'm like, dang it, yeah,
I get kind of at night, right, yeah, this is
all the time. And I was like, I don't know.
So one time I was at the doctor and I
had hurt my toe and he looked at it and

(09:57):
you know whatever, I thought, No, no, I thought i'd
broken my foot. Whatever, it's oh cool. It tells me
it's no big deal. And I was like, oh, by
the way, any reason why I sweat at night? And
he's like, well, what do you mean sweat at night?
And I said, oh, you know, like I wake up
like I've run five miles, like I am drenched in sweat.
And he says, I, why don't you stop buying your

(10:19):
way out? And you know, do a blood takes some
of your blood? Well, all right, cool because it's probably
no big deal. We'll just check you know that, no
big deal? Then give me bod you wait uh, like
twenty four hours and I get a call and it's
not from the nurse, it's from the doctor. Does he say,
are you sitting down? He says, and all this is

(10:40):
Dr Shepherd And I'm like, oh, this is not good.
If Dr Shepherd is calling, I was thinking it's gonna
be Nurse Betty, but it's Dr Shepherd And he's like, hey,
so yeah, we need to come back in and do
one more test for like tuberculosis. I'm like, okay, I
go back in, calls Dr Shephard calls me the next day.

(11:02):
He's like, hey, man, it seems like you got tuberculosis
and we're gonna have to send you who have you
slept with the last thing? No, no, it's not asleep
with it's an airborne disease. Do you use protection? And
he said, so have you traveled outside the country to
the third world country? And I was like, no, have
you slept with the prostitute? And so no, didn't asked
me that. So I had to go to the Center

(11:23):
for Disease Control and I had to meet with all
these people. They had to do long X rays and
breathing things and where are you going? She didn't like
your story. She didn't like my story, got offended by
the prostitute. So are you literally clearing your throat? Because
done that right here? So I checked yourself up a

(11:46):
side effect right now, I'm telling you. So, I right
when the doctor tells me I have to go to
the disease center and tuberculosis. I started looking at the
start crying. Well, I started looking. You start confessing all yourself.
I start, I live. I started looking on it. Every

(12:07):
time they say something, they always go, uh, I don't
want to die. No, that's serious, like people die from toberculos.
So I started looking it up and I started freaking out,
and I called my parents and I'm like, oh my god,
like I might die. We're freaking out. Yeah, I have
TB and I might. I was your dad say, dang,

(12:30):
it's son until you use protection. No, it's nothing to
do with protection, guys and Eddie. They make you in college.
I had waived this, which now I have so many suspicions.
Excuse me. Um, they make you get a tuberculosis shot
in college to live in the dorms. And I waved
the shot because I again have reactions to vaccines. WHOA,

(12:52):
there's another reason why you might have TV I know.
Now I'm like freaking out, like, whoa, I don't want
She's like anyway. So I make my appointment with the
Center for Disease Control right there on Town Lake, right off,
I know, and I go in and I mean, they
do a chest X ray. They make me breathe into
this machine. And luckily I didn't have active t B.

(13:18):
I had latent t B. No, it was never so.
And here's the thing. I'm in the waiting room. I'm
the only one that speaks English. There is not like
they're all people like whoever gets to berculosis doesn't speak
English for some reason, because I was the only one.
Tuberculosis a racist, you know. It comes from like other

(13:40):
under developed countries. So it's people that travel and come
to the United States from another country. I might have
been on an airplane with him something. So I'm just like,
oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I'm gonna die. And
so they said, okay, you can take these pills. You
ever do springbreak in Mexico or anything? Yes? Oh, ry
oh that's where you got the TV from. Dude. I

(14:03):
am not joking. They told me, okay, you can take
these pills one a day for nine months. Was it
a blue pill? No, it was not a blue pill.
Nine months nine and he can't drink. You cannot drink
when you're on these pills. That is the word. See
if they gave you that pill today, you'd be like,
no problem, I don't no, no, no, I'm back in
the day though. You're taught that that that that that

(14:25):
that They said, if you take these pills for nine
months and do not, you know, you know, you take
them for nine months, it has less than a one
percent chance of ever becoming active to berculosis. So I
will always live with tuberculosis in my body. Have two
TV right now, so you have like some gene that
it like, that's how you have it kind of thing. No,
he got it from springbreaking. I got it from somewhere.

(14:47):
I don't know where it lives in actively in you first.
It's latent, is what they called it. This is why
you always And they said, they said that if you
don't take the pill, there's a ten percent chance that
you're going to have active TV at some point and
then you can give it to someone else. And they
said a lot of people choose not to because they
don't want to go nine months without drinking. I mean,

(15:08):
I'm I'm big on that. And I was like, what
if you like accidentally have a drinkin time? Did you know?
Not one? Not one? No no, Because I was like, no,
I don't want to die. I was like, nine months
is worth it for me. And here's the and here's
the best part. So I'm like, I'm still gonna go out.
First night, I go out and I'm sober because I
can't drink. Not that that that that. Then some jackass

(15:30):
puked on me at the bar and yeah, you're drunk.
I was just I was like, are you eving kidding me?
Are you Evan again? Puked right on my left shoulder, dude,
right on my I was just like, mother, I was
so pissed, so pissed. So you take the pill every day,
never drink, no sex, nothing, And then I never said

(15:52):
no sex. What you can give it to someone else? No,
you cannot. It's not a sexually transmitted disease. It is
an error born ease. So anyway, so they told you
you you're not contagious, right, and here's the crazy you
went back to work. Yeah, I had to bring a
note from the disease center because there's no way he's
gonna let you let me in the studio. Of course, dude,
night sweats after that pill, after the pill, coach, that's

(16:17):
usually how medicine works. Like crazy, I had a headache.
I took the pill two never had a headache. But
here's the thing I'm talking about. I lived with the
night sweats for like two years because I just thought,
oh man, there's something like my ceiling fan. I didn't
never know. I had no idea for a walking TV. Dude.
I was a tuberculosis walking full around this world for

(16:39):
two years sweating. I mean, why do you say sweating?
I would have chick wedding. Do you understand? I would
have chicks in my bed and you probably gave them
and I would sweat so bad that I had to
put a towel. Had chicks in his bed all the time,
like you did not have about fifty chicks in my
bed where I sweat everywhere with Then you probably gave him.

(17:00):
Be I was not contagious after you were diagnosed. Did
you have to tell all your partners? I didn't have
to do any of that. But it's airborne though I
don't I don't understand. But it was not active, so
and how is it never active. I don't know. At
some point in your two years, they can't promise you

(17:20):
that you weren't active. At one point you probably gave
a hundred people TV. I'm not a scientist, I'm not
a who's calling you? I don't answer it. Answer that's Nashville,
Hello speaker. What are you doing? I'm good? How you doing? Man? Oh? Yeah,

(17:42):
you want to go ahead? And the results it's a
medical results? Is it really? Your TV came back? Happening?
What I did not come on this podcast? How do
you want to go get a doctor's appointment? That's not
how this works. I don't feel good right now. Do
you feel like you have TV? I don't because I
don't have any of the other symptoms. What are the odds?

(18:03):
Right now that he's getting a call and they're like,
this is a doctor? What was the doctor and saying
your TV is back? Because because I just heard the universe,
I just heard him right now, and the phone say, um,
something's back or your results, your test results are back.
That's great, okay, so good news, good news. Oh yeah,

(18:24):
we get good news. See, let's see if we can
find out what he's saying just by his reaction. MHM Oh,
he's given him the results. Right now, he's writing. He's
waiting to write something down. He hasn't written anything down yet. Well,
he wrote one thing down. It's so exciting. The one
thing he wrote down was shoulder Benning bacon. Sure it's

(18:49):
either benin or bacon Benign. It's nine shoulder Benign. Break
that down? What does that mean? There was a lump
somewhere in it's Benign. That's good news. Oh it's his dog. Yeah,
it's a update on his dog. Yeah, that's good news.
Or is his kid? No, m I don't maybe dog.

(19:10):
This is the update on the dog. I can see
in his face he's very serious, because seriously, do I
need to go to doctor for what happened? No? TV?
Why why do you always want to go to this sextion? No? No, no,
it's not that. It's it's that I remember when he
had TV, and I remember thinking it was half as

(19:31):
soon as he found out that he virculos is. I
remember it's a big deal, Like could you could you
go that long without drinking? Be real? If it was
for my health, yes, absolutely, it would be rough, Like
it would be hard to like socialize because the thing
with drinking for me, I don't drink all week, Like
I really don't. People, yea Friday, you're dealing with ten Friday,

(19:54):
so you're gonna have to be like oh and your
friends like come on just one oh no. But you
know what I'm really good at, like getting my friends
to drink. But I am a rock when it comes
to like my own peer pressure, like I do not
follow her corrap. I was thinking about that because, you know,
on the on the Big Show, we were talking about
how what would be your dream job, I said, uh,

(20:20):
deep sea fishing, like a charter fishing, fishing guide or whatever.
And I always felt like it would be cool, like
I'd be a fun party host, like all right, I
bought a lot of beer, I bought food whatever, and
we're gonna do that in between our fishing. And but
I don't know if I could hang with ten dudes
and watch them drink and me not want to and

(20:40):
me not want to drink. But I feel like that'd
be really hard. Well that's the whole thing drinking. It's
such a social activity, all about like hanging out with
your friends and doing things. That's what it's about. So no,
but it would be hard, to sit there and watch
ten Friends. But if you have a really good reason
not to, you like, yeah, up, what news? Yeah, it's

(21:03):
my dog shoulder. Yeah, the shoulder they had because he
had a growth on his left shoulder and so I well,
I took him in and they had taken some cells
out and they was inconclusive on if it was cancer
or not. So then he had other gross and so
they had to have surgery and he had ten gross removed.
The good news is the shoulder was benign, but some

(21:25):
other ones had cancer. So oh no, oh, no, lunch.
I shouldn't have taken the call. Should have taken the call,
shouldn't have taken the call, but they removed the gross. Yeah,
but now I have to go meet with an oncologist

(21:45):
and just see if it's spread. Should have taken the call?
Oh man, Um, yeah you can pause. No, no, no,
we're good, let's pause. I don't know, We're all right.
Let's just let's just do it. Let's just do it.

(22:06):
Um damn that sucks, man, Like, yeah, how old is
he's twelve? He's twelve? Twelve or thirteen? I mean, I
don't know. He said he was too when I got him.
But you never know when you get him from the
because they say, you know, he was supposed he was
puppy for a long time after I got him, So
I feel like he was probably a year when I

(22:27):
got him, and then he didn't never grow out of
the puppy stage because he was ripping up dog beds,
ripping up everything. And when he's out of the puppy stage,
he's supposed to be out of the puppy stage. So man, well,
hopefully everything comes up. They can get through that. Dogs
can get through that. Yeah, ah, that sucks. I just

(22:47):
I went through it with my last dog. I mean
with same thing. She had a sack grow and it's
like a hanging bang banging and it's fatty tissue for
a long time and then someone on Instagram am told me, hey,
you might want to get that checked out and ended
up I didn't. It was cancer and she battled cancer
for a year and a half. And man, okay, what

(23:12):
do you guys want to talking about? You want to
talk about We've talked about some serious issues here, Yeah,
so you wanna talking about some fun issues. N f
T S Yeah, non fungible tangible Okay, Morgan number two,
do you know what chance is that random thing that
people are buying online? They're like video cards or something. Yes, okay,
social media, that's the only reason I know. So Eddie

(23:35):
brought this to us. He brought an expert on who
confused this even more. Was it's confusing his crap. And
then we brought this cal Cutta mic guy on and
he nailed it and explained it to still confusing his
crap and let me let me add at the end
of that conversation with Calcutta Mike, who made perfect sense,
Lunchbox still said, I don't get it. No, I don't
get why people are paying so much money for these things.
You get that now still, But Morgan number two, I

(23:57):
am in the n f T business. Now, okay, you
bought something. So I've been on NBA Top Shot. They
release packs and there's these cards and you try to
sell them and you try to make money and so
and they have like, okay today we have fifty thousand packs.
So you gotta get in the queue and then you
get randomly assigned a number and sometimes you get a pack,
sometimes you don't. So are they essentially like virtual sports cards? Yes,

(24:20):
that's correct, exactly what they are. But some of them
are still have serial numbers, yes, and some of them
are selling for hundred fifty tho, I mean all the
outrageous amounts of numbers, or some himself for one dollar
or they sell for five bucks. So I was like,
all right, I gotta get get in on this, and
I started buying some. I'm trying to buy packs just

(24:41):
as no. Just it's just back at the NBA, and
it's only it's only this season, right, this season or
last season. I mean, as far as I know, it's
just this season. It's only moments of this season. So
it's not like you get a Hakimlajuan or a Kobe
Bryant card like those that's they didn't play this season.
So I start buying these packs, and Eddie's calling me

(25:02):
an idiot, telling me I'm stupid, I'm wasting my money.
And then one pack is oh, you gotta have like
fifteen moments, so I gotta get on there and buy more.
They kept making him spend more money to even qualify
for these pack drops. Right, so even you're not guaranteed
a pack, you're not guaranteed you need to buy fifteen
packs today or fifteen moments, which you're gonna cost them

(25:23):
six dollars each the cheap. But when they announced that
it's gonna cost fifteen moments the marketplace, everybody raises their prices,
so every card or every moment goes up to fifteen dollars.
So he's buying cards for fifteen dollars. Okay, So let
me ask you this, what's the purpose of it? Just
to have them or so you can buy, like so
you can trade and sell them. Mine is just to
sell make more money. That's what most That's what most

(25:45):
people are doing. They don't want it to keep keep
a fake card that's not even real, Like that's I
was wondering. It just sits on your computer, So what
do you They want to buy it? Turn it make
profit by would somebody else buy? That's what we're trying.
That's what I don't understand about it, because why are
people paying that much for it? Like? Why why is
it so valuable to them that they're willing to pay

(26:06):
ten dollars for a video moment on their computer? I
don't get it. But if I have the chance to
sell it and make money, I'm all in. So I'm
trying it. Right, Do you feel like it's I don't
I don't know if this is the right word for it,
but kind of like a Ponzi scheme, where it's likely
other people are just buying it so then they can
keep up selling it and then eventually somebody gets stuck
with it and they lose all that money. Exactly what

(26:28):
this is, yes, right, it's it's a fake marketplace. So
you have a fake marketplace with fake product, and all
you do is raise the value of every product. Then
it goes up. People make money, people make money, people
make money. But then you know what, once it gets
to a certain level, no one's gonna buy it. You're
stuck with it, and it's and it's worth nothing. Right.

(26:51):
That is the definition of a Ponzi scheme, and lunch
Box is in the middle of Okay, so you bought one,
I bought more than one. How many did you buy?
I have bought well, I bought packs. Okay, wait wait
how many? I need a number? Right now? I have
thirty four moments. And let me remind you this all
started with him saying, this is the stupidest thing I've

(27:13):
ever heard. This is so dumb. I don't get it.
Do you anticipate to make all of the Well, here's
the thing I started out. I just bought a couple
of them, right, just so I could be eligible for
a pack drop. And this is where they got him
to be part of raising that market value. So this
is just a part to get everyone to spend more

(27:34):
money so that market value goes up, and that's what
it does. Yes, you're right. And so then I bought
a pack. I got a pack, and I got a
couple of cards, like one of them right now is
we're twenty four dollars. I bought the pack for nine bucks,
so I can sell my card for four bucks. I
made fifteen dollars right there, right, That money in your
account now, yeah, I haven't sold the card yet, it's

(27:55):
still there. So then there was one coming out and
and caw cut the Mike's I think you're gonna need
fifteen moments to be eligible for this pack. So I
start buying, buying, and I didn't get a pack, so
I have all these moments. But then I've gotten a
couple of packs since this. Sometimes there's three, sometimes there's five.

(28:17):
So right now you have thirty four individual cards. Basically
I have individual moments, right, So I bought a pack
and I got a Mike Conley. I paid ninety nine
dollars for the pack. I'm sorry, you made a hundred
dollars for this. You know you know what it is? Right,
it's nothing. No, no, no, it is making my hair

(28:38):
stand up. You know it's nothing. Right, Yeah, we're you
want to come see one of my moments. Let me
see that Mike Conley I got in the pack though,
I sold for two hundred dollars, So I paid ninety
nine dollars for it. You paid five for five and
I sold it for two hundreds. Yes, so here's a moment.

(29:01):
This is Look at this? Who is that? Ah? But
that's lunch boxes. This video clip series serial number two
three one three is lunch boxes. Either make this from
your series sick stock or what No, no, no, no, no,

(29:21):
no no, it's not about this, That's what I'm saying.
It's not even about this video. You want to see
a different one. Wait, wait, come back, you want to
see a different one. You want to see a great one,
which Morgan number two. It's not even about watch this one.
Watch this one. Oh watch this? Oh, spin move that's cool.

(29:41):
How much do you buy that one for? That was
in my four pack. So you bought them fourteen dollars
and it's worth a hundred. Nice sell it. I will.
I admit that they're cool, but I just feel like
this is something you can get for free on the
internet and social Right, it's just not about the click.
He didn't want the clip, right, I don't want the clip.
I don't give a crap about the clip. I want
the money. So and he thinks people are buying this,

(30:02):
this is the funny thing. He thinks he's the only
one buying it to make money. No, I don't, I said,
I don't know who the people are that are selling
these are buying them to collect them. I don't understand.
No one is this considered technically like another betting thing,
sound like the stock Mark stock market betting. It's basically
for the Yeah, and you know who's behind it, the NBA.

(30:25):
Oh yeah, they are bacon. What I could see being
really cool and they could make more money is like
really legendary moments from history that they're working on. That
working on that probably because I feel like this is
like you can watch highlights on ESPN or whatever. Right,
and but even but even those, even the legendary ones,
from them from history. We have those two. I'll google

(30:47):
it right now, I know, but I'm just saying those
make more sense for somebody to be willing to pay
so much before right now that but it's not even
like you own it. You don't own it. But it's
not like you even own that video. But no one
can use it. And Gatorade wants to use in their commercial,
well they have to pay Lunchbox a million for that
would make sense to me, Yeah, but I'm just saying
that would allow me to understand this and people spending

(31:10):
money on this a little bit more, because right now
I do not understand. I'm with you, I don't understand
it either. So then I got a pack the other
day and it was the Hustle and Show pack and
I got a card. Cool that's worth forty bucks, and
I was like, man, I'm gonna sell it. Then I
started talking to Calcutta Mike and we started doing a

(31:32):
deep dive on one of them. We started looking at
someone else's profile on this and this dude on here,
real kidhom Mike did all the work. No, no, Me
and him were just looking at different cards. So my
Mike Connelly, we wanted to look up how much it
was worth. Now I sold it for two hundred. Now
it's worth nine. Okay, so I I could have held

(31:53):
you could do that. What the most you've made off
of one of that? That was the most? Hundred dollars
was most so far? And then so I threw another
one up. But they're being teased by the hundred thousand
dollar sales that because they're trying to get the big buck. Yeah,
you're trying to hit the jackpot. We're trying to hit
that card is freaking literally gambling idiots trying to get
rich quick. You know, you know who gets rich quick.

(32:16):
So anyway, I'm sucking. So I like start looking up
the car my Mike Connley. It's worth eighty nine now
is what someone has it listed at. So then I
start looking. There's another guy on there, and I click
on his profile. Since January, when he joined to this thing,
he has sold six hundred sixty seven cards or moments

(32:36):
for a total of two hundred and sixty three thousand
dollars in sales he has gained. He has a profit
of a hundred thousand dollars since January. He probably is
a fake person. Yeah, I feel like he's a person.
Why wouldn't he be a fake person that you can
just do different stats And then we look at this
guy like he made millions of dollars, because you two

(32:58):
can make million dollars, but you have to buy first.
Don't be an idiot, because don't be an idiot? Then who? So,
who bought these cards? It's fake people? Why? Why is
that shocking to you that somebody could do fake people
and fake stories and fake thousand dollars trains could be
like fake NBA people and they're just rocking up the
prices like that. You're you're not even considering that that

(33:18):
is ridiculous. Did you not see that? You are a
businessman making business deals, making that money, entrepreneur trying to
get that money, and you and you're not even you're
falling for the stupidest Ponti scheme ever. Did you see
the n f T that sold for four d dollars
other day of the girl? Yeah, the fire girl exactly?
You know which one that is. That's the girl. There's
a burning house behind her and she looks at what's

(33:38):
her face doing? Oh wait, she's on there? No, no, no,
that's an n f T. And someone bought it for
four hundred thousand dollars. That's why I'm recording all this
stuff in the podcast, and we're about to sell it all.
But anyway, so you right now, Morgan ever laughing at
that joke is a moment, and we'll be for sale
in ten minutes. Oh this feels wrong. Then they also

(34:01):
have these challenges. Okay? Were they put up a challenge? No, no,
you're not listening. I am, okay, And it's like, okay,
if you collect all these in the challenge, you can
you get a special card. Okay, but why do you
want a special card? Because he doesn't even answer for that.

(34:23):
You can only get that card if you complete the challenge.
So I was looking and there was a hustle and
show challenge. Okay, ok god, this I can't believe about
to admit this. So you had to. I had. I
had one of them from there, and it was the

(34:44):
Colin Sexton assists language. You know, Colin Sexton. Yeah, you
dat him two different So guys, guys in your face,

(35:04):
trying to figure out if it was the same one
you're making and I just gotta the same one. A
basketball player. You have to dan, girl, you're thinking okay, okay,
remove the Hustle and Show challenge. You have to collect

(35:26):
eight cards. In this they give you these eight cards
you have to collect to complete the challenge. I don't
even know what you're talking about. So, guys, I had
one of them. So I spent two to qualify for
this path drop no no, to qualify for the to

(35:46):
complete this challenge Hustle and Show, And so now I
will be able to get the nice card the Hustle
and Show Janice, and only people that complete the challenge
will have the chance to get this card. So it's
a rare card. Are you listening to the talk. This
is literally like my my thirteen year old dad, listen,

(36:07):
need this. It's fool proof that all I need is
twenty dollars, all right, dad, and I can get the
honest like such an idiot dead, I bought the Rudy Gobert, R. J. Hampton,
Alex Caruso, KMP bays More, Sick, Collin Sexton, Marcus Smart,

(36:28):
Chris Chios. I don't know Alex that hey, I bought
all eight and I have completed the challenge. So the
challenge ends in three days, and once it is I
will get the honest, and I could be get serial
number one because what if only? Okay, so so so
if you do get this card, are you going to

(36:50):
try and sell it for what? Depends what number I get?
Hopefully I get a low serial number. Hopefully he's gonna
get serial number one and then sell it for what?
But if you don't, you think you're not going to
make your money back. I think I can sell for
two because it's gonna be That's what the whole point. Yes, really,
that's the whole point to do all this to break even.
Really that's the whole point. But you're wasting all this

(37:11):
time to break even. Your whole point is to makes
and my whole point is to get rich, and that's
not happening, right. But if I break even, that's cool
that you fight to live in live another day. It's
like in Vegas when you play black jack. If you
push is a win because you get to play another
hand as long as you don't take a loss. Here's
the sad part. I see it in your eyes, and

(37:33):
you truly believe in all this, and you're truly believing
that you have a chance to get ten thou dollars.
I don't want to get your hopes. I feel I
feel really bad for you, but I have cards, like,
right now you want to hear about my collection? No,
because this is gonna be a two hour long podcast
that we keep going right right, I know, I know,
I'm just gonna tell you my collection right now. I

(37:53):
have in there hundred and sixty five. I can make
a hundred and sixty five dollars all of I spent,
so right now, my my my collection is worth five
that's awesome. Excited for you. And if I when I
get this honest and it's worth a lot of money, boy,
I'm gonna be making I completed my first challenge because
I looked at buy the Lambeau. Maybe, but I looked

(38:16):
at this guy that has made a hundred thousand dollars.
Who is his name is? Yeah? Can you email him
or is there a contact? I don't know. Maybe that's
his Twitter name? Yeah, maybe look him up. Okay, he
was a real dude. I bet he's not. I do
hope for your sake that you make all this money,
because I think it would be a really cool story.
But I just feel like this is the worst I've

(38:36):
made money so far. Like I'm positive you're not making
any money. You're just part of the whole market. I'm
making moving your money around. That's all you're doing, moving
your money around so that they can make money. No,
I'm making money. When I buy something for and sell
it for two hundred, I made money. You're also moving
the market, but I don't care. I made my money. Okay,

(38:59):
But then quit right now and have your ask an
adult question based off of this gambling. Do you guys
have any stocks invested? I have stocks? You got any
good ones for me that I should invest in. I
don't know anything about that stuff. I just have stuff
that I've had for a long time. Do you feel
like you guys should maybe hitgeoned into stocks more than

(39:21):
you're gambling. No. I only gamble thirty dollars a month
like that's and I don't. I don't gamble to get rich.
I know that I'm not gonna get have fun. I
gambled to get me through the month. Like literally, there
are just some days where I've got nothing going on,
and the kids are asleep and my wife fell asleep early,
and I'm like, look, there's a West Coast game going on.
Let me gamble on it. Two dollars that the Lakers

(39:44):
are gonna win. And then I watched that and the
Lakers win. I'm like, whoa want two bucks? Going to
bed happy? That's all I do. Okay, that's why you gamble. Meanwhile,
he's trying to get rich. I'm trying. This is something
that has taken over the world and it's not going anywhere,
so I am trying to strike while the iron is hot.
All right? Can we move on to your interview? Did

(40:06):
you buzz out after the interview? No? I did not
buzz out after the interview. You know that you should always,
but I should, and I'm sorry, And I'm gonna tell
you what I did. Bring a special guest on for
the interview. I brought someone in to ask questions. Your wife,
but your cousin. Enjoy it, Mark long better listen, guys,
you're gonna want to hear this. I mean, it's great.
It's a great interview. All right, Happy Friday, Happy Friday.

(40:27):
Have a good weekend. H is there you have seen
this weekend? I don't know. I'm I've got to call
the vet back. But okay, yeah, sorry about that, and
good luck with all that you're praying for you man. Alright, okay, goodbye,
all right bye, no not it's half a half and
a and then well and then we'll go back and
at at the end of the internet, they'll know. They'll know, yeah,

(40:49):
they'll know. Alright, alright, And so I listened. We got
something really cool to happen to this interview, like huge
our podcast Huge. All right, goodbye everyone, all right, ladies
and gentlemen, boys and girls, listen, we had this guy
on a few weeks ago, and I may have geeked
out just a little bit, might have hogged the interview,
and Eddie and Ray got piste and they're like, dude,

(41:11):
you didn't even let us ask Mark long one single question.
So I said, okay, let's bring Mark along back. What's up? Mark? Oh?
As always my friends coming in hot and ferocious, six
twisted steal. You know how I roll, and Mark, I
got to confess to you. I didn't even tell Eddie
and Ray that I booked you again. They're not here.
I didn't tell that because so we can have personal

(41:34):
time as we get have personal time because listen, Mark,
they don't watch the challenge. Ray watched it back in
the day, and they make fun of me because I
still talk about the Challenge, the Challenge All Stars and
how invested I am in this programming and they think
it's ridiculous. But I'm sorry, I I geek out. I've
been addicted since I was, you know, a teenager, and
I can't help it. Hey, I'm uh part for the

(41:56):
course here, my man. I've been involved not only this Challenge,
but I've been a fan of this Challenge for years
and years and years twenty years plus. So every time
I meet someone that has watched for that long, I
appreciate the support. Um, it has not been my first
time where I've met someone that's been like a crazy
fan which loves it. I love that, So thank you
for having me back on, man, I'm ready to spit

(42:17):
fire as usually. Okay, let's spit fire because we're gonna start.
We're not gonna start with Challenge All Stars, because we're
gonna talk about the Challenge, double Agents and the finale.
When Fessie Mr Big Talker, who I mean he is
the most I don't even understand that he is the
most arrogant competitor ever. I think on the Challenge to
I've never done anything, and then he says, I'm not

(42:39):
gonna I'm good. I'm just gonna sit here. Yeah. I
have a problem with folks like that, especially the new
kids that come on and the resume that they try
to boast and and put at front of everyone's face
does not include any final wins. It doesn't include any
money that has won in the bank account. It's all
these Hey, I've beat the smaller guy on a daily

(43:01):
challenge or an elimination. I beat you'd be called the
crown prince of the new Challenge. Well it doesn't work
that way, Bessie. And uh, you've got to earn your stripes.
There's only a few challenge champions I can say they've
they've won multiple times, myself included in that conversation. So
until he whears that crown of at least winning a championship,

(43:21):
shut his big fat face up because we're tired of
listening into it. You know what I mean, I agree
with you. And then he goes on the reunion and
this is what drives me nuts. This is what infuriates me.
And he says, and he strites to say, it's because
Casey blew out her knee. No no, no, Casey still
got up and hobbled her ass to the eating station
and said here, I'm gonna keep eating. So until they

(43:42):
were gonna say you're out, Casey was not going to
give up, but he just was looking for an excuse
to not blame himself. I think you hit the nail
on the head because I'm not gonna give too much away.
But in later episodes of the Challenge, we might have
a scenario or something like this plays out to you know, perfectly,

(44:05):
and you'll see how the old school challengers deal with
this situation compared to the young, spoiled, entitled challenger like
a fessie, because when we grew up, we didn't care
if we were playing for a million dollars or a
temper pedic bed. We come up, show up, ready to
compete a thousand percent with the same energy, the same excitement.

(44:26):
And uh, the guy, listen, is he a great villain?
Of course, someone's gotta be the villain, and someone's got
to be the bunchee bag. But there's so easy for us.
He makes it so easy. And the problem is he
doesn't think he's the villain. That's the thing. He thinks
he is beloved when he is not. He thinks that
everybody likes him, he better read the the comments below

(44:49):
his social media posts or any post that that is
posted about him. He's definitely I wouldn't call him a
a fan favorite. I would call him very popular within
that fan community. Listen, like I said, until you wear
the championship ring, you know, anyone can go in there
and win an elimination or win a daily challenge. It's
it's just it's part of the game. But you know

(45:10):
when you reach at final and there's many legs of it, mental, physical, social,
until you you know. And what cracks me up is
as the challenges are now evolving, they're less and less
people from the original show on it, which I think,
are you're trying to give this dial lay up right, Like, listen,
we've taken out all the great competitors, step up and
do something. He's still shipping the bed, so I don't
know what the guy's problems. Now. I love the way

(45:33):
you go right at him and even on because he
on the reunion he says, oh, you know what I mean,
there's not one person on the challenge in the history
of the challenge that can beat me in a physical competition.
And you immediately said, yo, Fessie, I could beat you
in a physical competition. Is this setting up? No, no, no,
I'm just looking into producers eyes and as you as

(45:53):
a producer and a caster, you know you do the
casting for some shows. Is this setting up for a
season Mark Long versus Bessie? Well, I've mentioned this early.
Call it a soft pitch if you will, but uh,
you know, I could see I could see the Challenge
All Stars going for many seasons and then almost like

(46:14):
a spinoff super Bowl. I could see an individual one
off of some of these younger cats versus some of
the O g s, and it would be my pleasure
to strap on the mouthpiece and go one on one
in a physical competition against Bessie. I think the fans
would love it. I I know the franchise would love it.
But yeah, you know I'm not I'm not Nelson. You know.
I don't have to get on a shoe box to

(46:35):
look at this guy in the face. I can look
at it standing flat on the ground. So you know,
like I said, I've played sports myself. I know how
to deliver a hit with a one on one haul brawl.
I know how to hang on to a a pole
and pole wrestle with this guy, So I think it's
you know, in a perfect world, can we expect it absolutely?

(46:57):
I mean the fans would go absolutely batschick crazy for it,
and I would too. So we'll see. Now something I
would like, I would love for you guys, like I
don't know if I heard this on Bill Simmons podcast
or maybe I if you could do live in the Duels,
like if you had a crowd, like I don't know

(47:17):
how you would pull that off, but that would be
maybe the most incredible thing ever. The hype, like it's
hyped with everybody up there yelling and screaming at you,
that's on the cast, but to have actual fans in
the arena, Oh my god, I think you hit the
nail on the head. And I think as we are
getting cleared up from this COVID situation right where it's uh,

(47:40):
not having to wear masks or being in in a
in a social environment like the UFC just pulled pulled
off an event that was pretty crowded, which was great,
big UFC fan, But I think for something as big
as this, if something as big as that Super Bowl
style of competition, I think it would only serve it
just if we had a live audience screaming for your favorites,

(48:01):
that raw emotion. I think we should each have walkout
music and you know, the spotlight on us like a
UFC entrance. Um, we can make this. The sky's a
limit with this stuff, because I think with All Stars,
it's it's reinvigorated, this challenge with such a fan base
and such an excitement among fans as well as media
outlets like yourself. So I think the injection of the

(48:23):
energy and positivity coming out of this All Stars season
has really given it new wings. And now the sky's
a limit with anything else we do in the future,
especially with the with the younger kids, if we decide
to incorporate them somehow later down the line. Now, I'm
gonna go to the phone line because we have one
of our listeners that a member of Sore Losers Nation.
His name is Brady. He's from Las Vegas, die Hard Challenger.

(48:45):
We tweet back and forth about the challenge Eddie and Ray.
I didn't tell Hi about the interview, but I brought
him on because he has some interview some questions for you.
Mark hit it up. Where sure are you there? Can
you hear them? Mark? Yeah? For sure? All Brady hit Away.
First off, it's a pleasure to speak to the godfather
Reality TV. Thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate it.

(49:06):
Let me described the early seasons of the Challenge that
quote adult summer camp. However, over the last decade, the
Challenge has become more about physical fitness. Do you think
the show needs to get back to including more of
the drama that really built the challenge? You see, I'm
gonna go out on on a separate uh win here
and say no because and this is the reason why

(49:28):
I really think with the other Challenge now they have
a new a different audience. It's it's there's room for
both franchises. So I think one of the the um
kind of aspects of the show that I love we're
doing in All Stars is that ability to show those
relationships in the drama and the the kind of personal
social situations outside of the competition, so me being greedy

(49:52):
and being very protected of All Stars. That is what's
making this show such a huge hit this year is
those aspects of the show. I think that other version,
although there's different aspects of that, they don't touch on
it as much. It's more about the physical competition and
the guys and girls show up like they're they're going
into the Olympics, because they're all just pretty much in
great shape. But I think now that we've separated, they

(50:15):
should let us do do the newer improved version, Lincoln
still do their own because I think there's an audience
for both, and I've seen fans from each side that
love both shows. So me being greedy, I want to
keep our style our style and let them keep doing
what they're doing awesome. Another question that I have for
you is recent seasons have seen the emergence of new

(50:37):
challengers such as Specie and Paul and Cally Theory. Most
of them joined the challenge huge games and have nothing
to show for it. Do you believe the O G
vets would have handled the behavior differently than today's events?
Oh a thousand percent. Um, we were just talking about this,
you know, I actually, uh no, Polly, and you know,

(51:00):
Pauli's competitive and he's you know, as we speak, he's
training to try out for the Olympics and Bob sledding,
So you know, I love police. Hold on, hold on,
did you just say that Pauli is going to try
out for the Olympics In Bob Sledding. He's training right now.
I think he has tryouts in June. He's he's been
posting some training videos and sent me some direct messages.

(51:22):
But yes, he's actually you know, putting his money where
his mouth is and using some of that athleticism and
his speed to to try out to be on the
downhill Bob sled team, which I think is awesome, incredible.
All right, now, go on, keep going. I'm sorry that
was breaking news. So so yeah, I think they'd be
treated differently. I mean, you know, there's sort of not

(51:44):
not to say that there's a bully mentality, but there's
a communist mentality on these newer challengers that have come
in from other shows that you know, if if they
came around some of the true O G s, I
think they'd be treated differently. Um. And maybe that's an
age or respect thing because you know, A I don't

(52:05):
stand for the guys bashing the girls anymore or trying
to throw them under the bus or you know, call
them the B word and stuff like that. I don't
I don't stand for that on my The All Stars show.
I don't stand for it on social media. But I
just think some of these younger cats because they've had
it easier on other shows. Listen, Big Brother is a
great show, but it's not the challenge, so they might

(52:26):
find that challenge easy. But but when you come into
our official challenge, it's a lot harder to make it
to the end and win. Uh So, I definitely think
they would have been treated differently, And like I said,
if we ever do an all star version, you can
see that firsthand, because there's one thing I'm not gonna
let happen, and that's that's Bessie talk shipped to me,
talk ship to any of my girls, or act like
he's the you know, got the biggest you know what's

(52:48):
swinging in the house, because that's not gonna be right
and it's not gonna happen period. Speaking of other reality shows,
if you were able to go on Big Brother Survivor,
how do you think you would fare? That's a great
question because I'm such a Big Brother fan, like I
love Big Brother, and I know a bunch of Survivor
people as well. Um uh, I think I've got a

(53:09):
pretty crafty social game, and I think with shows like
Big Brother, uh rallying a group early and kind of
floating on that social wing, I would do very well.
Um when I made it down towards the end of that.
If that was happening, I think it'd be a little
difficult because people would probably smarten up and at least
try to get me out of there before the final

(53:30):
But I feel very confident going a long way in
a show like Big Brother, just from my social skills
and how I played the game, you know, quote unquote
pretty fairly. Um, Survivor is a different story, Man, Holy Ship.
Survivor is definitely a different story. I'm a big guy
that's used to eating man, and uh, I think I
could do well. It's just Big Brother. I think I

(53:51):
would fare better. And if I was going to be
completely honest, because I've only watched one season a Big
Brother was this last one and it was all stars,
and I felt like it was so boring because no
one did anything, No one made any moves, no one
tried to ruffle any flathers. Feathers, they just everybody just
went along with everything. And I was like, well this sucks, man,
and I and everybody's talked about it for years and

(54:12):
I finally got into it because it was pandemic and
we couldn't go anywhere, so I didn't have anything to
do at night, and it's on three nights a week.
I mean that's a little egotistical in its own right.
If we could get the challenge three nights a week, good,
But Big Brother, that's a lot of damn time for
nothing to happen. Yeah, And I think with this past
season a Big Brother All Stars, people felt like they
were safe and in a really good group. So there

(54:32):
there weren't any big moves. You gotta give it another shot, though,
and watch a regular season with all new cast members,
because that's when they get a little bit dirtier, a
little bit more because the unknown, you know, they don't
have relationships out that inside the show whatsoever. But yeah,
I agree the All Stars of Big Brother was a
little you know, non eventful. But again, I would love
to put my hat in the ring it there sometime

(54:54):
and play that game too. You know, I've I've competed
uh a lot growing up, and that's just I love
the competition of it all, whether it's a challenge or
whether it's you know, doing the egg toss in the
backyard with my niece. I competition all the time, and
so you bring these people back into All Stars and
on the challenge. How does the pay work? Because TJ

(55:15):
is like, you know what if you finish in third place,
you get no money. Well, there's no way these people
are going for six weeks and not getting paid. No.
We always, you know, we always get an appearance fee.
And I think that's based on on how many seasons
you've done, because obviously you want to reward those people
that have done more. It just makes sense. But you know,

(55:37):
we're definitely making something to show up. It's nothing to
you know, shake shake a stick at. It's just you know,
you're not going there our egos coming the way right,
You're not going there just to get the show money.
You're going there to make a stand, put on a
great performance, and take home the ultimate cash. Because listen,
you know, you could say I've been in fifteen challenges,
but if you haven't said you've won one, you're just

(55:59):
lump then to that regular competitor kind of buckets. So
the fact that there there's been some repeat championship winners
like the CTS, the the who Else, the Johnny Bananas
of course myself, So it's uh, it's nice to compete
and show up and make some cash. It's even nicer, though,

(56:20):
to win that championship and bring home a big chunk.
Speaking of best of all time, Brady has one question
about that when it comes to the you know challengers,
go for it, Ken Stars. I believe this is the
seventh season and it's been going on for twenty three
years across all formats and all time frames of the challenge,

(56:41):
which four challengers are putting on from Mount Rushmore. Oh,
so I'm gonna exclude myself because that would be egotistical, right,
I'll exclude myself even though this past summer with one tweet,
I pulled off the biggest shake up in reality television
history and bought a lot of your favorite back that
we love you for that not like if I ever
see you, I might go hug you and you might

(57:02):
freak out. But it is so amazing to see the
O G s back. It is so amazing. It's such
a good feeling to have that back together. Because I've
wondered about what happened to Katie, Like I don't follow
the people on social media because I don't want to
know what happens on the shows, and so it's like, Wow,
she's a mom like it's crazy. Yeah, so so I'm

(57:23):
and you know what, your same energy I swear to God,
your same energy is is shared I think with so
many fans and other media outlets. It's just what a
breath of fresh air this is and and what you know,
what a way to pull on those nostalgic heartstrings. Right,
It's just you've you've grown up with these people. You've
seen these people since they were eighteen twenty years old.
Now you're their age or older. So so besides me

(57:43):
for doing that, um, it's gonna be Johnny Bananas, it's
gonna be ct Um in terms of I want to
say athleticism. Uh Landing made a really good play and
then you gotta throw Durell in there as well. So
those four in term terms of what they've done physically
as well as memorable. I mean, Johnny did it you

(58:05):
know seven times? That guy's the goat in this this world.
Ct has been such a you know, ct is kind
of a late bloomer, right, I Mean everyone loves c
TM at the beginning because he was just such a
polarizing personality. But he's in his layer years has really
been putting up some physical and social stats amongst these shows,
so God bless him for doing that as well. He's
having a really good late run at it. So those

(58:26):
four I think you're good names to include. Um, you
want to look at their girls. I would throw like
just from like a physical standpoint, like a Laurel um
a coral. A Laurel and Coral. That should be a
TV show. Um. And then you got like an Ashy
Mitchell who was wanted to bring home the million dollars.
You can't escape the fact that she pulled that off.
So there's a lot of great faces you can include,

(58:47):
guys and girls. UM. So it's just I'm hoping we
create more of those as the years go by, because
like I was telling you guys earlier, they're kind of
pulling out a lot. He's o Geese from the regular
show given these youngsters a new chance to win, and
no one's done it yet. So hopefully, you know, Challenge
thirty seven, we'll get a new winner that no one's

(59:08):
seen yet. But you never know, No, we hope not.
We want the O g s to keep winning. We
want them to keep going back and smacking them down
because I want FESSI to get in CT's face and says,
you're a has been. You're a has been boy. This
is a new class. You don't belong here. And CT
went old CT and ripped off the wig and said
let's go. Because CT, that's the crazy thing about CT.

(59:32):
He used to break people's faces. I mean, I don't
know if Adam is still alive. I don't know what
Adam is doing, but that poor dude took a punch
from CT, and I can't believe his face didn't just collapse.
But CT did that. He went through a whole transformation
in life, and now he's like a nice guy. I
oh here, let me mentor you big t. Let me

(59:53):
show you how it's done, and I'll still whoop your ass. Fesse.
Wasn't that a great moment when he stepped up to
him and he took the wig off, And of course
Bessie didn't once put down that inflatable beatbox he was
holding because he didn't want any of it. He he
stepped down really quick. So again that's the difference between

(01:00:13):
the o G cast and the youngsters, right o G.
He CT was absolutely dead serious, Seth. Bessie was probably
serious but kind of joking in a way. But it
all got real serious and Bessie sobered up real quick
when CT called him out, which I love. So the
challenge all stars, how many I'm I'm a week behind,
so how many more weeks do we get of this?

(01:00:35):
So they just last week they aired episode five. We
we air episode six, six, seven, eight, nine coming up,
and then we do an our reunion. So you got
some good we got some good content. They just released
uh a mid season trailer which is badass. It looks great. Um,
it shows you a lot of things that you can expect.
But I mean, you know, like any challenge, as we

(01:00:57):
get closer to the money, you know, the nice this
goes out the window and strategy and alliances start showing
their heads and it becomes fun. But I think, you know, um,
what what with the caller? What was his name? The
car Blake? Great? Great? So what Brady point out was,
you know, you're seeing a lot more of not just
the challenge. You're seeing a lot more of that social interaction, parties, parties.

(01:01:21):
We have an epic pajama party coming up where you see, uh,
you know, there's a little shot of Anissa laying in
the old bed with with Litterian that's a nice little moment.
So yeah, I say this. You know, we're older, so
the physical capabilities might be minimized a little bit, but
the personalities have grown tenfold. And you've got to remember

(01:01:43):
we all back in the day. We're cast for our personalities,
not just our physical attributes. So that's why the the
the O G s are always great characters, because they're
just as fun, whether the competing or sitting on the couch,
you know, dogging each other out in the fun way.
So I love the fact that we're back, and I
hope it's I've said this before, it's the right recipe.
I hope it goes many, many many seasons because I

(01:02:05):
know the o G fans are ready for it, and
I know the o G cast members that have now
seen this version are all chiming at the bit to
come on. I love it, Mark, I appreciate you coming
back on. I will have you on any time you
want so I can geek out ask you a million questions.
I mean, fantastic, you are always brilliant. You always bring
the fire and the fury right, and there is that right, yeah, hot, ferocious, procious,

(01:02:29):
that's it. So listen, when we get listen when we
get when you know when, and if, hopefully we get
an announcement for another season, you'll be my call and
we'll announce it here on the show. Oh my god,
are you serious? Yeah? Season to keep your fingers crossed? Baby,
how can it not happen? Let's go, let's go, let's go, baby, Hey,
let's go. Mark Long, thank you so much. I have

(01:02:50):
a great did take it easy? Anybody see it? Thank you? Dude?
He is incredible, Like he is incredible, Like that is
so freaking cool. Wow, whoa that was good? Scovia? Was
that gun? Or was that good? That was really cool?
And then to the very end when he's like, hey,
we're gonna do the special announcement on your show, Like,
is he serious? Though? I think he's pretty serious. I

(01:03:11):
think that. I think you're as much a fan of
him as he is a fan of you being a
fan of him. God, if he really if they're really
going to announce it on our part, I mean, that
is phenomenal. That's pretty big. That's big show type stuff
right there. Like like, is he serious? Though? Asked Brady,
what do you think, Brady, don't call me Tom Brady.
Do you think he's serious about if there's a season two,

(01:03:32):
he's gonna announce it on the pod. He brought it
up on his own. You didn't get it out of him.
He offered it up. I think he's serious about it.
Oh my gosh, guys, this is incredible. I mean, that's like,
du what dreams are made of? I am freaking out
right now, let's go, let's go. I was like, well,
this is pretty cool. I need to save that clip.

(01:03:53):
I don't know how to do it. I don't even
where the video is, but we need to clip that
and put it. Oh my gosh, and I have his
email numbers. We'll I'll follow up for sure. So if
you get any kind of inkling of when the season
comes to an end and some sort of whatever that
I made a season to, let me know, we'll follow up.
All right, Brdy appreciated great questions. Have a good day.
Listen for yourself on the pot. I don't know when
we're putting this up, but boy, that was fun. Sounds good.

(01:04:15):
I appreciate. I'm freaking out still, I know like that.
That was pretty cool. I'm not even a fan of
my I'm a fan of the real world, which I
want to ask him if they're ever if they had
plans of bringing that back, because I know they canceled
it a couple of years ago they were supposed to
bring it back. And yeah, and then my question is
how piste are Eddie and Rey going to be that
I set up the interview and didn't even tell them. Yeah,

(01:04:36):
I'm truna be pretty piste because they wanted to talk
to him this time around and asked him some non
fan questions. I know. But here's the thing. I went
home after being sad about not letting them ask questions,
and I'm like, I'm such a super fan that I
love fan questions and I feel like some people love
fan questions, and so I just was like, all right,
and then we lined them up again. And then I
didn't tell Eddie and Ray because I was like, I

(01:04:56):
was debating internally, do I tell them? Do I not
tell them? Do I tell them? Will not tell them?
And I didn't tell him, And maybe that makes me
a er, maybe that makes me an ass. I don't know,
but damn I love that. That was so freaking fun.
All Right, I think we can cut it now? Whoa
you guys? Heredy working the announcement right here on the
pod Sore and Losers Nation. Let's go