July 18, 2025 • 50 mins
In this week’s episode, Kelly and Chip share hilarious life updates—from Chip’s injury at his mom’s 80th birthday party to Kelly’s bizarre realization that she might have worked with Elvis. (Yes, that Elvis.) They also unpack Kelly’s recent conversation with Hope Woodard about the viral “Boy Sober” movement, what it means to stop chasing validation, and how it’s helping women take their power back in dating.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Oh, I'm sorry, let me put my shirt back one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Please do not edit this out.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I totally forgot that I had taken my shirt off.
It is so hot. I didn't. Okay, I had a
tank top one.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, I was going to clarify for those who are
only listening, she's not naked.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I had a wife lover tank top one. We don't
say wife beater anymore. But yeah. I went on a
walk right before we started recording, or we were set
to record, and I cannot cool down. It is so
hot in Nashville right now. I think it's hot everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think. I think the world's just burning. Oh okay,
not to get political, but it is literally and figuratively
burning right now.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So she's well, I had a friend texting me from
Philly yesterday is like, it's so hot.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I was like, don't cry to me, because I'm melting
here too.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It has to be yeah, it has to be a
little bit cooler up there. You would hope you think
it's just also the humidity, because it'll say it's ninety four,
but it says then right under it, it says feels like.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It feels like one eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It really does that. It does I cannot cool down.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I went and I went and saw Kesha on Monday,
and it was like, I basically wore booty shorts. I
was like, I don't want anything touching me. Like it's
because I would know I was going to be outside
in a crowd, and I was just like, oh my god,
it's gonna be so hot.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I can't imagine going to an outside concert right now.
No woof.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well anyway, well please do for those of you listening,
don't use that as an excuse not to buy tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You sorry, sorry, You're like, excuse me, that's bad for business. Yeah,
welcome back to Nashville. I know you were in Virginia
Beach and we were talking about this last week on
the podcast. It was your mom's eightieth birthday, two days
before my birthday, actually, my fellow cancer sister. Do you
want to tell the listeners what happened though, because this
(01:52):
story shifts me to my core.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So my mother's birthday was July ninth. I had gone
home for the fourth of July. She's in Virginia that
my parents are in Virginia, and I'd gone home for
fourth of July and I was staying because I had
a work show on the tenth, and then we were
on the twelfth. We were having like a big we
call it Christmas in July, but we're doubling it as
(02:16):
my mom's eightieth birthday because it was the her eightieth
birthday on the ninth.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And you know, I brought my dogs with me.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I have a one year old boxer puppy and an
eight year old boxer dog. And when I got there,
I told my parents, like, hey, these dogs are going
to be laying around on the floor.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They are in the way.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's just the way life is for this week. Be
cognizant of it. You're not in a hurry to go anywhere.
Do not step over these dogs because you don't move
like you used to. And the last thing I need
is for you to get hurt. Well, my hard headed mother,
thank god she's hard headed.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You'll see why.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You'll see why my hard headed mother decided to step
over the puppy. And when she did it, she also
stepped on his ball, which made him jump up. And
I was sitting in a chair and looked over. I
hear my mom scream, and then next thing, she's literally
flying by me like Superman in slow motion.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And she hit her head on the door. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know how she like her legs were. You know,
she was like spread over.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Him because she was stepping over him when he jumped up,
so he was able to like truly like lift her
in the air and throw her. And you know, she's
only five eleven, I mean four eleven, so she's not
a big woman. Ye know, Yeah, she's tiny, and so
he threw her into the door. Her head hit and
then she fell and her forehead hit the floor and
(03:37):
she just laid there still and it was silent, and
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like, mom, Mom, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And she was just like just let me lay here.
So I knew she wasn't dead, which was good. And
then she slowly got up and she said she was fine.
There was no bruising, there was no bleeding, nothing felt broken.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And I was worried that she was concussed.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I like made her like follow my finger and
like asked her some questions and she answered everything fine.
She was like, I'm gonna go about my day. I
got a party to work on, and she went about
her day. She made some cucumber salad, she made her bed.
She had gotten a new mattress that day, so she
had to remake her bed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
She was actually doing like manual yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Manual labor.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I also was massaging her neck and making her do
like next stretching exercises. Like she said, she goes, there's
a little stiffed into my shoulders in my neck. But
I probably tensed up. And so she took a muscle relaxer.
And but she also had a couple of cocktails when
it became cocktail time. Then we went to dinner for
her birthday. She had another cocktail. Then we came home
and she slept all night.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
The next morning.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I would imagine so on muscle relaxers.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
In the mouse, right, Yeah, I should clarify. She did
not take the muscle relaxing until she was gone to bed.
She did not take it before drinking. I mean, she's
a party animal.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Wow. So we wake up the next day and her.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Face is black and blue like and I hate that
I'm laughing, but she she would be happy that I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's startling to yeah, it's startling.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean black and blue.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And her forehead was had like this big huge swell
bump on it and I had a friend that was
coming into town.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So that was the day of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That was now Thursday the tenth, and I had a
friend that was flying in for the party, but he
decided to come a.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Day early so that he could go to the dirt show.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And he walked into the house and I was like, oh, Dan,
I forgot you're an EMT.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You're a fireman. Well you look at my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
She fell and when he saw her, he like, his
first question was are you on blood thinners? And she
is because she's got hot blood pressure and he was like,
you have to go to the emergency room now, and
to which she responded, the hell I do like, and
he explained to her in a very like professional calm
way that you know, when you're on blood thinners, whenever
you hit your head, you have to go to the
(05:48):
hospital because if you cause your brain to bleed, you
could have it could give you a stroke, or you
could just die in your sleep. And it's not something
that you would ever feel. It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It just sneaks up on you.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And I didn't know that, you know, like, so well
you know this. I'm sharing this story because you know,
should any of you who are on blood thinners, or
any of your family or loved ones ever. Fall like
this is good information to have totally. So we went
to the hospital kicking and screaming. She was not happy
about having to go because.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
She had so much naughter.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He told her that.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, she didn't want to. She was like, I'm not staying.
I don't care what they say. I'm not staying. She's like,
I've got a party with over one hundred people coming
to my house on Saturday, but I love.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That, Like this is what's what are is messed up
about us sometimes as we're like, I have a party
to plan and we're so worried about that, and well
you should worry about living.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Living and that's what we said to her, were like,
you know, you might not be alive for the party
if you don't like do what you need to do.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right. So we get we get.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
To the emergency room and she proceeds to tell everyone
that sees her that she's not spending the night, she
is not being admitted, but to do whatever they need
to do to get her through till She's like, if
you need to be come back on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'll do whatever you need. But get me to live
through them.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So they did a CT scan and they came back
and they said, well, the good news is you don't
have a brain. The madness is is you broke your neck.
And we were all like what. She fractured her C
two vertebrae, which is the second one down from your head,
and they were like, you might have to be rushed
to surgery, and she was like, I'm not having surgery today.
(07:18):
And the doctor that was on staff was like, look,
I'm not the neurosurgeon here. We don't even have one,
so we would have to transport you somewhere, but let's
wait until we hear back from the neurosurgeon once he's
seen the CT scan.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And blah blah blah. And my mom was like, I'm
not I'm definitely not having surgery here.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm definitely not going to the hospital that they would
they would transfer me to.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
All the things, and I'm not spending the night.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And they, luckily, once the neurosurgery and called back, he said,
based on what he's seeing, he doesn't even think she'll
need surgery. But she has to wear a neck brace
for the next three months twenty four to seven, just
a shower.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
In ite my gos so.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
She has a consultation today, as the listeners are on Friday,
she has a consultation today with neurosurgeon and will know more.
But I'm hoping that it's not going to require surgery
because I feel like the recovery at eighty years old
from surgery will just complicate things. Plus it means, you know,
going under and having to spend the night at the
(08:17):
hospital and all the things. I mean, look, she is
a trooper. Like she went to that party, she didn't
drink because you know, we've we've got the fear of
life in her now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Because it's as simple as.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Like her tripping over, you know, a piece of grass
or a stick or something in the yard. If you
fully break that second vertebrae is this is what all
the medical people told me. Most people die because it
inhibits your ability for your lungs to function. So you
you're either paralyzed or you're dead.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And if you're long stop functioning. When you're paralyzed, you
have to be on a breathing machine. Like it's just awful.
So long story short, she's really lucky. She's I mean,
she looks like she got the shit kicked out of her,
and she was like, I tried to do We tried
to do everything. We were like, why don't we put
a boa on you or and we can get you know,
like we'll steal your makeup, and she's like, I don't
give a shit what I look like. She just wanted
(09:11):
to be at that party and see everybody. And she
stayed in one chair the whole time until karaoke started,
and then we moved her over to the karaoke area
and she didn't drink and she was She was literally
the last one to go to bed on Saturday night.
I had to be like, mom, go to bed so
I can.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
She is a social butterfly.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
She really is.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And yeah, so moral of the story is blood thinners.
If you fall and hit your head, get checked, and
don't let your parents step over your puppies.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Geez. I mean, well, obviously we're sending well wishes to Claudia,
but like the fact that that happened on her eightieth birthday,
it was just so startling. If you guys want to
see pictures of her, because she is black and blue,
Chip put someone on his Instagram. It's at Chip Doors. Yeah,
but I when I saw that picture, I mean, because
I saw her when you guys were in the hospital.
I saw a picture from there. She was not she
(10:00):
was not bruised. It wasn't bruised yet, and then you
posted that picture. It looks almost like she has sunglasses on.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, she she had glasses on, so when she fell,
like the top of her head hit the door and
then she went just dropped flat, and her glasses then
got her face.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But I also, like, I didn't even know what bruising was.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And my friend Dan explained, He was like, you know,
whenever you get hit hard, blood vessels break, and that's
just blood under the skin.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's just like internal bleeding.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, so gravity pushes it down too, So anything that
was damaged up here, like on her forehead, the blood
drained into like her eye sockets and stuff. So I mean,
it was crazy, and it got worse the next day, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The next day was worse. I think, like the day
on the eleventh when you guys had the party, which
was my birthday.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It was so bad, so bad. Anyway, Well, I hope
she recovers, and I can't imagine a brace for three months,
but it does make sense in a lot of ways
because you don't. It's like when you injure your back,
you don't realize every move is tied to like your
back and your neck, and so anything hurts, and so
I could see why she would need that protection from
not moving it a certain way.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well, because you also, like, we're so I mean, I
hate to say we take our bodies for granted, but
we do, like, of course we don't have to think
about all of the things that we do, but like
something as simple as dropping a piece of paper, like
and not bend over and pick that up like you
normally would if you've got a broken neck. And you know,
my sister the next day called her on a stepstool
trying to get some paper towels down from a show.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Lost her day mind, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, So it's just like and she's not thinking that,
and that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
She's just not thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
About, like really what the repercussions are if she gets
hurt again.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And you know, it's natural to want to just be
able to do what you can.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do well, and we're all kind of stubborn. I think
she's like stubborn when you need to stop and sit.
It's sometimes so hard to get yourself to do that.
That always happens with me. I was having those back spasms.
Do you remember that that for that week that was
last summer. And it took that truly, like I was
rendered so incapable of moving, and it took that for
(12:11):
me to just stop because I couldn't, like I just
could not move. And every time I would move even
the wrong, like in the slightest wrong way, in my
back would spasm again. It was so painful. So yeah, anyway,
maybe she's just supposed to sit and reflect on some
things right now.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Well I'm hoping too, because you know, if this feels irresponsible,
but the doctor told her that she's still allowed to drive.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But we're telling her not.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
To because yeah, all it takes is a dog running
out in front of you and you slam on the
brakes and you've thrown your neck out. But you know,
I said, look, this is an opportunity for you to
like make some changes, like you don't need to go
to the grocery store, like you can order everything online
and have a friend pick it up for you. And
she's like, yeah, but I like to touch my own fruit.
And I was like, well, this is three months. Yeah,
(12:52):
maybe you'll learn that you really actually like having everything
packed up for you so you don't have to go
spend an hour the grocery store and you can order
all the pack goods and then you go pick out.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Your fruit and your vegetables and that's all you have
to do.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So I'm hoping that like this isn't me just like
yelling at my mom and trying to get her to
behave and it's more about like me reframing things for
her because she she's just also habitual, like she's still
doesn't text, she doesn't have an ATM card, she doesn't
want to progress and anyway, she just likes to do
things her way. And I think this is kind of
(13:26):
an interesting time to like, you know, teach her.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some convenient things that have you know, progressed and changed
since she was born a million years.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Ago eighty to be exact.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Wow, Well, I really hope she gets well soon, and
obviously we'll need the updates from you as they come.
But I like the reframe too. I mean it always,
like we always say on this podcast, there is a
learning opportunity in every situation if you allow yourself to
go there. So maybe this is her time. Yeah, yeah,
Well the eleventh was a big day, and I mean,
I can't that was my birthday, seven eleven. It's hard
(14:01):
to forget. But I was on set actually all day
that day. I was working. This story is so crazy
and I'm not so sure. I did not work with
Elvis Presley. I got called to work on this job
(14:27):
with this man named Bob Joyce, and he's a pastor
in Arkansas. And if anyone's on TikTok or knows anything
about this story, you know that there's a conspiracy theory
that says he is Elvis, that Elvis did not die,
he faked his own death, and Bob Joyce is Elvis,
but doesn't want any of the fame or notoriety, and
(14:48):
so he's, you know, doing what he believes is the
work that God wanted Elvis to do. He says that,
but he does not say he's Elvis. So I know
it sounds crazy. I don't typically believe conspiracy theories, Like
I am not that person. I always when people are
like Britney's Bears is a clone, I'm like, no, she's not.
She's just on drugs, you know, like that's why she
looks so different. But I left this situation. I got home.
(15:12):
My boyfriend was here and he was like, you looked
like you'd seen a ghost and you truly believed that
that was Elvis. Like once I left, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh, I mean, I know I sound insane, but like
there's all these weird things. The only thing I cannot
wrap my mind around is that Elvis would be ninety
and so like I didn't really find Bob to be
moving in the way that I would think a ninety
year old would. My grandmother's ninety, like Elvis was actually
born a couple of days after her, and so like
I was comparing it to that, but she does have Alzheimer's.
(15:43):
So I'm like, I don't know if I'm getting you know,
like every person is different and what does ninety look
like for everybody? But I still don't really, I don't
know there's some weird connection.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Did you listen to the music?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well? He yeah, I mean we didn't. I didn't hear
his album, but like he played the piano right in
front of me, and it was freaky because it was
very soulful, like someone goes wait, you played the piano right,
because they were doing a shot right in front of
the piano and sat He was like, yeah, a little bit,
and he sat down and he played literally what I
would imagine Elvis was the tale play. But the reason
(16:15):
people think this, I can't remember exactly where it started.
But there are like six years in Bob's life right
after Elvis died where there's no documentation of where Bob was. Like,
there's this really weird thing with that. There's this other
connection of there's a vein pattern on his left hand
that's exactly the same as Elvis's. There's a scar where
(16:36):
Elvis had had wounding on his right hand. Bob has
a scar in the exact same spot. He's married to
this woman who actually met she was there, who dated
Elvis when he was off at war. I guess that
was World War two, and that's who Bob's married to. Now.
He sounds just like him when he sings. He's the
(16:58):
same height, same shoe side. There are rumors that he
was at Lisa Marie Presley's funeral, but then I saw
this one article that said that was a songwriter that
just looked like him and not him. But the week
that Lisa Marie died. Apparently he gave a sermon and
like halfway through it was did like ten minutes about
(17:19):
the topic of lost, kind of randomly within the sermon
and could not stop crying. And so everyone was like, uh,
you know, just weird like that. I'm trying to think
of some of the other stuff. I mean, if you
guys google it, it is all over the internet. I
had no idea, and so when I get there, these
people are kind of almost like, should we tell her
(17:39):
to google him about me? And I was like, oh,
I google him, you know, because I always google new
people just to see what they look like. And they
were like, oh, well, so do you know about the
Elvis stuff? And I was like, oh, yeah, I saw
that there's a conspiracy theory about that. And they all
got silent and just looked at me, and I was like,
why are you guys being weird all of a sudden,
(18:00):
and they said, well, it is Elvis, like dead serious
to me, I thought they were fucking with me. I
could not like get over it. And yeah, there was
like went on on and on to tell me all
these different things and these weird connections to Elvis. I
don't know, he looks different, and so I was like,
I don't really know that. I feel like I feel
like it looks more like Kenny Rogers or something. Yeah,
(18:24):
and they were like, well, he's had work done, we
think to kind you know, obviously hide the Elvis thing.
They said, Elvis was in so much trouble with like
or he was so trapped. If anyone's seen the Elvis movie.
There was that colonel guy who was his manager, and
he had him to where he was doing this residency
like basically like a slave, like he couldn't leave, he
(18:45):
couldn't do any other shows. He had to do that show,
like he had no autonomy, and he wasn't really making
that much money. I think, like the colonel was taking
all his money. But he was also like so he
was in all this debt, but also like the mafia
was tied to that somehow. And so then the colonel
decided that Elvis was worth more to him dead than alive.
(19:05):
And so he said, sure, we can like fake your
death and I'll as long as I have ownership over
like Elvis Presley Enterprises, which he did for a long
time because he was like, if he dies, then I'll
quote if he quote unquote dies, then I'll make a
bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah. I mean yeah you can.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You can still do a lot of the things and
you don't have the costs.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah. And then Elvis just didn't want to be in
that anymore, didn't obviously was in danger with the mafia
and didn't want the fame or any of that. Like
he just wanted you know, he's all. He was actually
very religious. They also told me that like Lisa, Marie, Priscilla,
Linda Thompson, Riley Kiok, they all know, like this is
like a known thing, but they.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Station because that would be my question is why would
you ever choose.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
To like leave your fabandon your family.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Priscilla. They said Priscilla was an arranged marriage, like it
was never a real love story thing. Like it was
very much this arranged thing. And she's still trying to
like milk that whole thing and get money. Bob himself
doesn't take any money from like the records that he
puts out or anything. I guess he just takes it.
He lives in like a three bedroom, two bath house,
(20:16):
like a normal house in Arkansas. And they're like he
makes all this money on these albums and in different
ways in the church or whatever, because I guess his
church is pretty successful. But he doesn't take any of that,
Like he just takes enough to live on and he
doesn't want, you know, like he's he's everything he does
is of service. And I gotta tell you guys, Okay,
(20:37):
So you know, I'm pretty intuitive and like my body
does weird things when I know stuff. And I found
myself obviously like it was weird hearing these stories. But
I was kind of like I kept saying to the people,
are you all messing with me? Like I could not,
you know, I just felt like they were trying to
punk me or like I could whatever. Then the people
(20:57):
there's also forgot to mention there's people shooting a documentary
about this right now, and so they kind of came too,
and I was like, well, why would Bob agree to
do this documentary if he doesn't want people to know
he's elvis or whatever, And so I can't really fully
grasp all of that. But this documentary will come out
in like a year. I'm trying to get them to
come on the podcast and it comes out so they
(21:17):
can tell us more. But anyway, he after they're telling
me some of the things. When he gets there, they like,
stop talking about it. Obviously. It's like, so it's this
really weird thing. Like we weren't actually able to openly
speak about it very much. So I was getting bits
and pieces throughout the day. And when he got there,
I got so nervous, like, quote unquote seventy three year
(21:41):
old man, we don't actually know how Aldio is, but
that's what they say Bob is. And that's not typically
like I work with pretty big artists, Like there's not
that's not typically a type of person who would kind
of make me star struck or weird. But I definitely
got nervous, and I got like, I don't know, I
couldn't tell. Why tell if it's because he doesn't really
like people touching him or you know, like things like that,
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or if it was because he's Elvis, I don't know.
But my body definitely got nervous. And then at the
end he came up to me and he was like,
remind me your name again, and I said Kelly, and
he was telling me thank you and stuff, and he
was but he was looking me in the eyes and
I wanted to cry. And when my body knows something's true,
it wants to like I start crying, like if I
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get an intuitive hit or if I'm in like a
session of I don't know. I'm trying to think, like
if I do any sort of healing session and someone says,
well it could be that blah blah blah blah blah
and it's true, I start crying. And it's because it's
like a recognition thing, I think. And that happened, So.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't did he ask you why you were crying
or did you I didn't cry.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I just teared up, and I was like, I gotta
walk away from him. It's like weird.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I don't be sad.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah. My agent was basically like, well, obviously tell everyone
you've worked to tell me.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, let's put that on the resume. Yeah, I mean,
here's the question.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And this isn't me like saying you should have done it,
but like, why not just ask him?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Like I could tell that they were not wanting to
talk about it in front of him, And I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Who were these people? Like were they people on his team?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Really, I don't know. Yeah, they're on his team. I
don't really know what their role was. There was this
married couple that they were older. I don't know if
they were like friends or they were on his team,
but his there was a daughter, a step daughter there,
and that was weird because they were like doing air
quotes around step daughter, like maybe it's his real I
don't know. The timeline wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Add up, so weird.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I feel like I feel like the conspiracy has been
started by the people around him.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well, I said, or is Bob just like playing into it?
I couldn't quite figure it out, like it just I
had so many questions about it, you know, and I
couldn't really fully ask them. The thing I said is
if he really wants to squad, goshit just let them
test his DNA. Why isn't that happening?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But then, I mean I went on a rabbit hole later,
like the day after, and there's this other guy that
has resurfaced at some point that I'm not convinced wasn't Bob,
And he had Presley DNA. And if you compare side
by sides with what Bob looks like with all of
us his dad, it's like identical.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So I don't have the answer. I just know there's
something weird going on. There, and I would love to
know if anybody has gone on a rabbit hole, because
I feel like I know so much about this situation
right now, I don't know if I'm doing it any
justice with the stories. There's just it's one of those
things where it's like all these facts come into your
brain randomly. You know, it's not always the best at
repeating them back. But yeah, and it sounds crazy. I
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totally understand that it sounds crazy. I just fully I
don't think I trust like the government obviously, with all
this Jeffrey Epstein stuff, I'm like, well, he's probably alive too,
I don't I don't believe anything that's going on with
that case. Like now, am I a conspiracy theorist?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Have I a commis person? I don't know. But with
the Elvis story, so I think I'm just kind of like,
I don't trust anything the government says right now. So
maybe this was some sort of plot to get Elvis
out of the situation he was in and they put
him in witness protection and now he's just teaching people
about God.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, crazier things have happened.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Crazier things have happened. So I don't know. I just
hope that they get this documentary out asap. They told
me it's going to be a while though, but they
get this out and we get some answers.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I wonder if.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
If it's like possible, mathematically possible for two people to
have really similar DNA but not.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Be from the same person.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Oh, because it's like it must be.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I mean, I don't know much about DNA, but I
feel like there must be some sort of mathm like,
however you DNA, there has to be some mathematics in that,
you know, like, well, okay, completely obviously it would be
completely random, you know, but like there has to be
two people with the same fingerprints in the world, Like
how many patterns are there?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't know. They say there's not, though, but with DNA,
I will say, so, I went so deep on this
rabbit hole that I found there has been someone has
come out I think it was in two thousand and
one and said that they were Elvis, but they went
by this name Jesse, which is Elvis's twin brother who died,
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and then they ended up finding like some sort of
DNA of that. Guys, there's a lot of things with
Elvis too. Oh, I'm sorry I'm jumping ahead, but they've
got DNA of that guy's and he was connected to
the Presley family in some capacity. But the guy that
was the like doctor that was reporting in on this
DNA said, if we don't have this certain type of DNA,
there are a lot of similar variations and so like
(26:58):
it could just be reading that way, like similar to
what you're saying. Yeah, in that finding, they were trying
to pull from this old doctor some DNA samples that
he had of Elvis's and apparently from that doctor, Elvis's
autopsy DNA and Elvis's liver DNA from when he was
younger did not match, which made me think that his
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autopsy DNA was not real.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I don't know, guys, I need help on this one.
So if you have any thoughts on.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That, Yeah, like them what the science was like even
at the point of his death, that could just be
like it's caught up, so you know, we we can
read so much more now scientifically.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, right, And that's the hard part is the last
findings of anything Elvis. I mean, he apparently died when
he was forty two, so that was a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
How how precisely you added it because A Lord, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What to believe anymore. I truly don't. And it's so
weird that this is such a heavy conspiracy. Like I
if it was like one article that I had found,
I don't think I would put any weight to this.
But it's so widely talked about. I'm just like, why
is it getting so much traction?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And how did we never hear of it until you
had to work on with Elvis?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Think you say that now? I don't know, but I
it's weird because the more I've told this story, That's
why I'm feeling like somebody listening must have known about
this already, because apparently it's been all over TikTok. You
and I are just not on TikTok really right, right? So?
I think you know, I had a friend he was like, oh,
I've heard of this, so it's not not common to
know about this. And I just happened to get to
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work with Bob, so I experienced Elvis firsthand.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I gotta say he had some swag. No he was not,
but there was that thing of like he was a
little bit it kind of nri is that the right word?
Like he had that about him, but then on the
flip side, could be very charming too, So it was like,
once he warmed up, he was very charming in the
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same way that like a superstar typically is. So that
was the other thing that threw me. I was just like,
oh my god, he is very much like the very
big stars that I've been around. Yes, and he's a pastor,
you know what I mean. That's where it starts to
throw you, as you're like, that's not really the world
he had. He definitely has that like star quality about him.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So I'm going to go listen after this. I need
to listen to those.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Listen to vocals. Oh yeah, yeah, report back while you
were gone. I had Hopewdard on. She coined the term
boy sober on TikTok a couple of years ago and
it's kind of gone into this viral movement and now
(29:59):
she is the host of her own podcast called boy Sober,
which is also when iHeart like ours is, And she
came on and it actually turned out to be this
really just fun conversation for me. It was just kind
of like girl talk. What I really appreciate about her
is she's just very honest, you know, like I think
a lot of people lead with this kind of expert
mentality or I've got it figured out, and she doesn't.
(30:22):
You know, she's talking about what boy sober is and
this journey that she's still continuing on. Basically, she coined
the term boys sober after going through some pretty like
toxic dynamics repeatedly in dating, and she was like, I
just got to take a break, and her sister said
something like, yeah, boys sober is better than any kind
(30:44):
of sober or something like that, and so they just
use that as this movement kind of to take a
break to really reevaluate how you're dating and decentralized, she says,
decentralized men in your life. So it's not just this
thing where I think so commonly you get just obsessed
about dating. You get obsessed with the unavailable guy. You know,
(31:07):
like we've all been there where you're just doing your
participating in these situationships or things that are just not
good for you, but you're obsessed with it and you're
finding yourself like stalking the guy who keeps watching your
Instagram stories or something. You know, like that's the that's
the thing that she taught, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're looking for you're looking for meaning that isn't there.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, and so she was just like, I just need
to reevaluate how I'm dating because also she had this
other guy who was available to her, who she had
kind of been back and forth with for years. Sounds
like he was very like interested in having a relationship
with her, and she could not show up for him
or in that relationship. So she's only wanting the unavailable,
you know. And I just so resonated with that, Like
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that was dynamics that I've been through in the past.
And we've talked about how you know, you take breaks
from alcohol sometimes or something I've done. I know we've
talked about it on this podcast. It's something Hope's done
because you want to just make sure you're drinking if
you're going to drink in a way that's conscious, like
that you're aware of how you're using it, she said,
(32:07):
choosing not using, which I really appreciated, Like I love that.
And so anyway, that's what she wanted to do with
boy Sober, and I thought it was really an interesting concept.
She was super honest about her journey with that, and
I thought to myself, I wonder what Chip would think
about this because I feel like any of the game
men that I know have never mentioned anything like this,
And I was like, is this is this like a
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hetero woman thing? Like are we the ones doing this?
Or is this across the board? Is it something that
you resonate with that all?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, I mean, yeah, I'd never heard the term.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
In fact, when when Kelly told me what we were
going to be talking about, I thought she said voiceover
and I was like, wow, I thought that term been
around for a long.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Time, but you're like, nothing groundbreaking.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
So I read about There was an article about her
in the New York Times that I read, and what
I think is also interesting that she pointed out in
that article that I'd like to I don't know, I
haven't listened to the podcast, so I don't know if
she you all touched on this. But part of the
reason why she chose to do it was that she
also recognized where she was at fault, well yeah, in
(33:13):
some in you know, and repeating patterns or being the
one who was like not really into it but dragging
it along or whatever. And so it wasn't just like
I'm shunning men because men suck.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
It was more about, like, wait, a minute, Like.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I've been in relationships my whole life and I'm still
not getting it right. Maybe I need to step back
and figure out who I am and what I want
and what I want out of relationships. So yeah, I
mean it certainly resonates with me. I said to you
before we started recording, I was like, honestly, I think
I could take a month of boys sobriety, like you know,
coming back from a trip, Like I'm always a lot
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more active on apps when I'm in new places because
it is it's like window shopping and it's all new products.
So I'm acutely aware of how much time I've wasted
on apps in the last week and a half. And
then it's like it is it is an addiction thing,
like you are getting dopamine from those hits, and then
(34:11):
when you get home, it's hard to break that addiction again.
So I think I might just delete all the apps
from my phone for a month and see and just
try that. Yeah, Because the truth is, it's like it
is a zero return, and so far it's a zero
return investment for me, you know, Like, yes, I've I
have met some people on apps, and I've had short
relationships or long relationships with.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Them or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But the amount of time that I'm investing in people
that really has nothing to offer me or do not
align with what I really want.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But what I want is a response.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
From you know, in that moment, all I really want
is a response, and then then the dopamine starts or
validation or whatever it is. But that's not what I'm
ultimately looking for. I'm looking to fall in love and
have a partner in life and find that best friend
that I want to do everything with.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And if I'm observing.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
What i'm the way that I'm acting and going about
that like all I'm doing is wasting my time and
when I could just be focusing on making myself the
best version of me and focusing on all of the
things that I love. Because then I feel like, at
least I'm putting myself in the environments where I'm going
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to meet someone that is interested in spending the time
with me.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, and that's a line, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And of course, look like all of us have physical
needs too, and I think some of these apps are
good for that because if you need to get laid
sometimes it is just like a really quick exchange and
that's all that is. But I also think too, like
if I step back and observe that sort of pattern,
that's not healthy either because it's you're not really yeah,
(35:55):
you might be satisfying an itch it's transactional. That it's
transactional then, but it also I think it fuels that
sort of addiction too, because it's about it's about you know,
it's like a drug, like if you're addicted to heroin,
Like you'll do whatever it takes to get that heroin.
And then it's not like you're better off afterwards, you know, like, yeah,
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you've satisfied the itch for a while, but you really
haven't fixed the problem. No.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I think that's always the interesting point, right, Like I
told we talked about this a little bit on the podcast,
but I said, the word sober is associated obviously with addiction, right,
And that might sound extreme to some people to go
boy sober, But I think the point of any sort
of sober curiosity that we're starting to talk about in
our culture is to actually be paying attention to how
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you're moving and choosing and not just using, you know,
because we really aren't set up to do that yet
or we haven't been. Like, I think it's becoming more
common to talk about. But if you really trace back,
like for women, if you trace back to childhood, start
thinking about like Disney movies. I mean, we're truly programmed
from day one that the most important thing for your
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life is to find your prints. And so if that
is your only mark of success or what happiness would
look like in your programming, you're gonna be to have
this like that sense of urgency about it, you know
what I mean. And so that becomes the thing that
you're also chasing. And it's just like, if you're not evaluating,
(37:28):
like what you were saying about hope, if you're not
evaluating your movements, are you even doing it because you
want to be doing it? Are you doing it because
of the shoulds, because of the pressure? Are you showing
up to actually date an available person? Are you chasing
that guy who's never gonna show up for you in
the way that you probably want in your life? And
(37:48):
to your point about the sex, she mentioned that too,
because she was just like, you know, we can all
do that too, And she's like, I think there was
this big movement amongst women where it's like to take
back your sexual and empowerment. You just sleep around a bunch,
and it's like, that's not actually that empowering. It's really not.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, it's not, like but it is it.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I feel like because of the programming, we're not even
sure what we want, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Like because the points.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, even like.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Even for a straight dude, like there is the programming
of like you got to go out and get laid tonight,
or you're not like as macho as the next.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Guy, so which feeds into the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Like then who's an easy target some girl who is
desperate for just attention, you know, And but then she
if if she's on the hunt too, just to check
that box, like then they feel like they've succeeded at something,
but in reality, they're just making it harder for them
to know what they really want because they have the
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satisfaction of achieving a goal in the moment versus like
the real goal of like wanting to connect with another
human being. And you know, I can, without any judgment,
sit Aaron, understand why we're in this position, both males
and females.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You know, well, I think we all can relate to it,
Like we've all been there in our lives, and I
don't have any judgment of whether you fully want to
be in a relationship or you just want to go
out and have fun and go on some dates or
just hook up or whatever it is that like you
truly want, that's on you. That's not my place to
say anything about what anyone should be doing with their
life or their relationships or their dating. I don't believe
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that it's one size fits all. I really don't. But
I think the point being do you even know what
you want? Like you're saying, like, are we just going
through the motions of life or are we making conscious decisions?
And like if you say you really want a relationship,
are you dating that way? Like my boyfriend has this
friend and we keep getting so frustrated with him because
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he keeps saying I want to get married and have kids.
I think that he just says that because of the
way he grew up and he feels like that's what
he should do, because the way that this mandates is
not for that, you know what I mean. He has
available women who would make great partners or mothers or
things like that that he will not even pay attention to,
and he always chases after the emotionally unavailable woman or
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the woman who cheats on him that he gets obsessed with,
like it's that dynamic. So I don't think he's actually
really available himself. And I keep saying that, but I
only know that because of my own patterns, you know. Yeah,
I think we're so often operating from the shoulds or
the panic of oh, this is what I've been taught
(40:40):
my whole life will make me happy or successful or
look good on paper or anything like that, And it's
not truly at all this conscious decision. And so that's
what Hope's whole point is is to take the pause,
take the break, go boy sober or girl sober or
whatever it is, and ask yourself, like, what do I want?
Right am I Am I dating the right people for
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the things that I want? Like just questions like that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I mean I think it's it's not black and white,
you know, Like, and I fully agree with you, like
if you want to go have fun, go have fun.
If you want to be in a relationship, be in
a relationship. But I think some people just see it
both of those things at surface level, like I just
want a relationship or I wanted to have fun, And
it's so much deeper than that, Like you have to
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define what kind of relationship you want and what that
needs to look like for you to be happy in
a relationship, because ending up in a shitty relationship is
really easy to do too, you know, like you've been there.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So I think a lot of people because the idea,
all the deepest they've thought about it is I want
to I want a relationship, I want to get married,
I want to find someone to spend my life with,
and not like they haven't really envisioned what that person
is and what those qualities are and what they how
they want that relationship, how that relationship will work for them.
And so the pattern there is you go through a
(42:04):
breakup and you don't observe what happened, and you just
go into another relationship.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Absolutely you know, yes, and then you keep going on
the same thing. You find yourself in the same kind
of relationship. Yeah, and it's just repeating the cycle.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
It's a really interesting concept. I brought this up with you.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I wonder if there is a term like voy sober
or obviously it needs a term, but like, is there
an exercise, okay that people who are in healthy relationships
could do to sort of make sure that their relationships
stay healthy, because I think you know, like sometimes what
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happens in relationships is that you get in a relationship
and it's good, but you lose yourself within the relationship
and you lose things outside of the relationship because you're
so focused on just that, Like could you do like
would it makes sense if you're in a really healthy,
strong relationship to look at your partner and be like, hey,
let's just like I'm not going to sleep with anybody,
(43:02):
Like this isn't about us breaking up. This is about
me going and spending a month, two weeks whatever it
needs to be with me so that I can reconnect
with myself and so that I miss you and all
of the things.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And then if you come back just like rejuvenated, Like
does that exist? Does anyone do that? I'm just so curious.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
What's interesting is do you remember two weeks ago I
told you I had Kelly Coin on and we talked
about the different variations within relationships that she was writing
about in New York Times and Washington Post. One of
them was couples who lived separately in separate houses, and
where most of those situations began was with a conversation
like that of, Hey, I've supported your dream for X
(43:45):
amount of years, I'm so grateful for where you've gotten.
Like there was a one couple specifically that she mentioned
that the woman had helped the man really build up
his career and get it to this place that he
wanted it to be, and at the end of that
she was left realizing, but I didn't focus anything on
my dreams in my job and my career. And so
that was when they decided to live in separate houses.
(44:06):
And it wasn't from a contentious place at all. In fact,
it brought them closer together. And now they live together
again and they're so much closer. But in that time,
she built her own business and really got in touch
with her passions again. And so when she came back
to the relationship, like you said, there was no like
they weren't outside of the relationship. It wasn't like they
were dating other people or even not talking to each other,
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but they just lived separately because she could not. She said,
I could not be in the same house and put
as much focus on myself, which I think is very
common with the woman in the relationship like that that role.
But I think, like to your point, I think that
can be easy for anyone to fall into the relationship
becoming the universe. I used to have a mentor that
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would say to me, it's a relationship, not the universe,
because I would just revolve around the relationship that I
was in at the time, to the neglect of my
own self, my own life, my own job, my own friends,
you know, and so now in my life because I
crashed and burned so hard on those levels and it
(45:11):
took me to my knees literally to like the bottom
of the barrel. I got to the place where I
was like, yo, I built a life that I love.
If you can contribute to that, great And that's the
kind of relationship that I'm in now, is that we
both contribute to each other's lives in a good way,
but also we have lives that we love ourselves. And
(45:32):
it's it's just changed the game for me to be
in a relationship like that.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, I mean the distance makes sure's unique too. Yeah,
because you don't like you're you're sort of forced to
take a break yea.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, and which is which is kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I mean, I guess it sort of plays into that,
you know, living in other apartments and stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Like, Yeah, I mean, because we definitely miss each other
and we get.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
To you have to like make the most of the
time that you're good.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It wouldn't benefit anyone if you all or just together
and then fighting the whole time because things are good,
you know. It's like, but obviously it's you have to
use the time to communicate.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
We have to communicate more than I've ever had to
communicate relationship because we're apart, you know. So it's, yeah,
it's a different dynamic, but yeah, you're right, like you
maximize your time together, and you also have to learn
to ebb and flow with each other's lives as you're
like moving in and out of them and then go
back or you know, really maximize the time you have
(46:28):
to yourself. And like I really work hard when he's
not here, I'm not there, you know, like or really
try to see all my friends. So it is a
different dynamic, but it's for me, it's one I'm really
enjoying right now. It helps me balance that voice soberness
or whatever a little bit more so. Anyway, I just
think it's a really interesting concept, and I think I'm
always a big fan of reflecting, you know, like taking
(46:51):
the moment, reflecting on what you're doing, like your movements,
how are you moving are you are you moving in
a way that's in the line with what you actually want,
what you actually value, within your integrity and all those things.
Are you moving unconsciously? Because we all do that too,
and our culture really sets us up for that to
be really easy to just throw another thing at it,
(47:12):
throw another man in the mix, throw another date on
the plot, you know, like go out and hook up,
like you were saying, like, it's just like we're set
up to keep the dopamine hits flowing if we want to,
but sometimes it's not going to fully give us what
we actually really want that will be satisfying.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I mean, I think ultimately we have to think about
our long term goals. You know, like dating is is
no different than building a career that you're obsessed with
or whatever it is. You know, it's if you have
a creative project that you're working on, it's you don't
want to be most excited about it on the first day.
You need to be something that's sustainable and you have
(47:52):
to know what you're like, what those benchmarks are going
to be, so that you recognize, like you're still in
it for the right reasons or whatever that you know.
I don't know if I'm articulating that properly, but.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
I think I know what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, yeah, And I know from my past experience that
I get really caught up in just the idea. I
get excited when I meet someone in their feels like
there's some connection.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's that yeah and dreamy right, yeah, so I don't but.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
You want to make sure it's not delusional in dreaming, right, yeah, right,
and you're not just getting wrapped up in the fantasy.
You and I both have this Piscy's man, and I
think it is easy to get wrapped up in the
fantasy idea of someone versus the actual reality of who
they are.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Oh, trust me, Like it's still fresh for me. Yeah, yeah,
not super fresh, but somewhat I know what you mean. Yeah,
My last you know, sort of dating experience was that so.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Live and learn, you know, live and learn. But I do.
I love this concept, you know, like a pause.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
We talk about that a lot on the podcast, but
I think the pause is where that's the most important
thing just in life in general.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Like life in general.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, this is just like it's such a personal and
you know you have to like have your own back
in these situations and know with confidence why you're gonna
take that pause, because it's often the first thing that
anyone asks people that they haven't seen it while are
you dating anybody?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Like it's the only in your life.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
It's so annoying that, Yeah, that's a case in point
of are we doing it for the pressure of those
situations or Like, it's what we were talking about last
week when I was saying, if my boyfriend and I
moved to the same city right now, it would only
be to satisfy everyone else asking us those questions. It
wouldn't be because that's what's best for us. And so
it's the same concept. It's just like, who are you
(49:36):
doing things for? Is it really what you want? And
it's about defining your life in the way that you
really want you that's true for you, right, But we're
just not really taught to do that from day one,
And so I think it's really cool that these conversations
are coming out now and we can start asking ourselves
those things and moving that way.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, anyway, if you guys have thoughts on this boy
sober concept, if it's something you've done in your life
or you're totally against it, whatever it is, or if
you think you know about Elvis, please let me know.
Please let me know. You can email us at the
Edge at velves edge dot com. You can also hit
me up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Chip, I'm at Chip Doors. It's h I P D
O R s ch.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Oh you really gave them there. You can also follow
our new page at Velvet's Edge podcast that will be
coming soon. We're working on some things I'm really excited about.
And you can also watch this on YouTube. You're visual now,
you're so we really are? All right anyway. I hope
you guys have a great weekend. And as you guys
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move into your weekend and you're living on the edge,
I hope you always remember.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Too at casual. Bye.
Oh, I'm sorry, let me put my shirt back one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Please do not edit this out.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I totally forgot that I had taken my shirt off.
It is so hot. I didn't. Okay, I had a
tank top one.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, I was going to clarify for those who are
only listening, she's not naked.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I had a wife lover tank top one. We don't
say wife beater anymore. But yeah. I went on a
walk right before we started recording, or we were set
to record, and I cannot cool down. It is so
hot in Nashville right now. I think it's hot everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think. I think the world's just burning. Oh okay,
not to get political, but it is literally and figuratively
burning right now.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So she's well, I had a friend texting me from
Philly yesterday is like, it's so hot.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I was like, don't cry to me, because I'm melting
here too.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It has to be yeah, it has to be a
little bit cooler up there. You would hope you think
it's just also the humidity, because it'll say it's ninety four,
but it says then right under it, it says feels like.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It feels like one eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It really does that. It does I cannot cool down.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I went and I went and saw Kesha on Monday,
and it was like, I basically wore booty shorts. I
was like, I don't want anything touching me. Like it's
because I would know I was going to be outside
in a crowd, and I was just like, oh my god,
it's gonna be so hot.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I can't imagine going to an outside concert right now.
No woof.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well anyway, well please do for those of you listening,
don't use that as an excuse not to buy tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You sorry, sorry, You're like, excuse me, that's bad for business. Yeah,
welcome back to Nashville. I know you were in Virginia
Beach and we were talking about this last week on
the podcast. It was your mom's eightieth birthday, two days
before my birthday, actually, my fellow cancer sister. Do you
want to tell the listeners what happened though, because this
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story shifts me to my core.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So my mother's birthday was July ninth. I had gone
home for the fourth of July. She's in Virginia that
my parents are in Virginia, and I'd gone home for
fourth of July and I was staying because I had
a work show on the tenth, and then we were
on the twelfth. We were having like a big we
call it Christmas in July, but we're doubling it as
(02:16):
my mom's eightieth birthday because it was the her eightieth
birthday on the ninth.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And you know, I brought my dogs with me.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I have a one year old boxer puppy and an
eight year old boxer dog. And when I got there,
I told my parents, like, hey, these dogs are going
to be laying around on the floor.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They are in the way.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's just the way life is for this week. Be
cognizant of it. You're not in a hurry to go anywhere.
Do not step over these dogs because you don't move
like you used to. And the last thing I need
is for you to get hurt. Well, my hard headed mother,
thank god she's hard headed.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You'll see why.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You'll see why my hard headed mother decided to step
over the puppy. And when she did it, she also
stepped on his ball, which made him jump up. And
I was sitting in a chair and looked over. I
hear my mom scream, and then next thing, she's literally
flying by me like Superman in slow motion.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And she hit her head on the door. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know how she like her legs were. You know,
she was like spread over.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Him because she was stepping over him when he jumped up,
so he was able to like truly like lift her
in the air and throw her. And you know, she's
only five eleven, I mean four eleven, so she's not
a big woman. Ye know, Yeah, she's tiny, and so
he threw her into the door. Her head hit and
then she fell and her forehead hit the floor and
(03:37):
she just laid there still and it was silent, and
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like, mom, Mom, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And she was just like just let me lay here.
So I knew she wasn't dead, which was good. And
then she slowly got up and she said she was fine.
There was no bruising, there was no bleeding, nothing felt broken.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And I was worried that she was concussed.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I like made her like follow my finger and
like asked her some questions and she answered everything fine.
She was like, I'm gonna go about my day. I
got a party to work on, and she went about
her day. She made some cucumber salad, she made her bed.
She had gotten a new mattress that day, so she
had to remake her bed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
She was actually doing like manual yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Manual labor.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I also was massaging her neck and making her do
like next stretching exercises. Like she said, she goes, there's
a little stiffed into my shoulders in my neck. But
I probably tensed up. And so she took a muscle relaxer.
And but she also had a couple of cocktails when
it became cocktail time. Then we went to dinner for
her birthday. She had another cocktail. Then we came home
and she slept all night.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
The next morning.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I would imagine so on muscle relaxers.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
In the mouse, right, Yeah, I should clarify. She did
not take the muscle relaxing until she was gone to bed.
She did not take it before drinking. I mean, she's
a party animal.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Wow. So we wake up the next day and her.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Face is black and blue like and I hate that
I'm laughing, but she she would be happy that I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's startling to yeah, it's startling.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean black and blue.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And her forehead was had like this big huge swell
bump on it and I had a friend that was
coming into town.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So that was the day of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That was now Thursday the tenth, and I had a
friend that was flying in for the party, but he
decided to come a.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Day early so that he could go to the dirt show.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And he walked into the house and I was like, oh, Dan,
I forgot you're an EMT.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You're a fireman. Well you look at my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
She fell and when he saw her, he like, his
first question was are you on blood thinners? And she
is because she's got hot blood pressure and he was like,
you have to go to the emergency room now, and
to which she responded, the hell I do like, and
he explained to her in a very like professional calm
way that you know, when you're on blood thinners, whenever
you hit your head, you have to go to the
(05:48):
hospital because if you cause your brain to bleed, you
could have it could give you a stroke, or you
could just die in your sleep. And it's not something
that you would ever feel. It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It just sneaks up on you.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And I didn't know that, you know, like, so well
you know this. I'm sharing this story because you know,
should any of you who are on blood thinners, or
any of your family or loved ones ever. Fall like
this is good information to have totally. So we went
to the hospital kicking and screaming. She was not happy
about having to go because.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
She had so much naughter.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He told her that.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, she didn't want to. She was like, I'm not staying.
I don't care what they say. I'm not staying. She's like,
I've got a party with over one hundred people coming
to my house on Saturday, but I love.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That, Like this is what's what are is messed up
about us sometimes as we're like, I have a party
to plan and we're so worried about that, and well
you should worry about living.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Living and that's what we said to her, were like,
you know, you might not be alive for the party
if you don't like do what you need to do.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right. So we get we get.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
To the emergency room and she proceeds to tell everyone
that sees her that she's not spending the night, she
is not being admitted, but to do whatever they need
to do to get her through till She's like, if
you need to be come back on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'll do whatever you need. But get me to live
through them.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So they did a CT scan and they came back
and they said, well, the good news is you don't
have a brain. The madness is is you broke your neck.
And we were all like what. She fractured her C
two vertebrae, which is the second one down from your head,
and they were like, you might have to be rushed
to surgery, and she was like, I'm not having surgery today.
(07:18):
And the doctor that was on staff was like, look,
I'm not the neurosurgeon here. We don't even have one,
so we would have to transport you somewhere, but let's
wait until we hear back from the neurosurgeon once he's
seen the CT scan.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And blah blah blah. And my mom was like, I'm
not I'm definitely not having surgery here.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm definitely not going to the hospital that they would
they would transfer me to.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
All the things, and I'm not spending the night.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And they, luckily, once the neurosurgery and called back, he said,
based on what he's seeing, he doesn't even think she'll
need surgery. But she has to wear a neck brace
for the next three months twenty four to seven, just
a shower.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
In ite my gos so.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
She has a consultation today, as the listeners are on Friday,
she has a consultation today with neurosurgeon and will know more.
But I'm hoping that it's not going to require surgery
because I feel like the recovery at eighty years old
from surgery will just complicate things. Plus it means, you know,
going under and having to spend the night at the
(08:17):
hospital and all the things. I mean, look, she is
a trooper. Like she went to that party, she didn't
drink because you know, we've we've got the fear of
life in her now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Because it's as simple as.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Like her tripping over, you know, a piece of grass
or a stick or something in the yard. If you
fully break that second vertebrae is this is what all
the medical people told me. Most people die because it
inhibits your ability for your lungs to function. So you
you're either paralyzed or you're dead.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And if you're long stop functioning. When you're paralyzed, you
have to be on a breathing machine. Like it's just awful.
So long story short, she's really lucky. She's I mean,
she looks like she got the shit kicked out of her,
and she was like, I tried to do We tried
to do everything. We were like, why don't we put
a boa on you or and we can get you know,
like we'll steal your makeup, and she's like, I don't
give a shit what I look like. She just wanted
(09:11):
to be at that party and see everybody. And she
stayed in one chair the whole time until karaoke started,
and then we moved her over to the karaoke area
and she didn't drink and she was She was literally
the last one to go to bed on Saturday night.
I had to be like, mom, go to bed so
I can.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
She is a social butterfly.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
She really is.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And yeah, so moral of the story is blood thinners.
If you fall and hit your head, get checked, and
don't let your parents step over your puppies.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Geez. I mean, well, obviously we're sending well wishes to Claudia,
but like the fact that that happened on her eightieth birthday,
it was just so startling. If you guys want to
see pictures of her, because she is black and blue,
Chip put someone on his Instagram. It's at Chip Doors. Yeah,
but I when I saw that picture, I mean, because
I saw her when you guys were in the hospital.
I saw a picture from there. She was not she
(10:00):
was not bruised. It wasn't bruised yet, and then you
posted that picture. It looks almost like she has sunglasses on.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, she she had glasses on, so when she fell,
like the top of her head hit the door and
then she went just dropped flat, and her glasses then
got her face.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But I also, like, I didn't even know what bruising was.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And my friend Dan explained, He was like, you know,
whenever you get hit hard, blood vessels break, and that's
just blood under the skin.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's just like internal bleeding.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, so gravity pushes it down too, So anything that
was damaged up here, like on her forehead, the blood
drained into like her eye sockets and stuff. So I mean,
it was crazy, and it got worse the next day, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The next day was worse. I think, like the day
on the eleventh when you guys had the party, which
was my birthday.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It was so bad, so bad. Anyway, Well, I hope
she recovers, and I can't imagine a brace for three months,
but it does make sense in a lot of ways
because you don't. It's like when you injure your back,
you don't realize every move is tied to like your
back and your neck, and so anything hurts, and so
I could see why she would need that protection from
not moving it a certain way.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well, because you also, like, we're so I mean, I
hate to say we take our bodies for granted, but
we do, like, of course we don't have to think
about all of the things that we do, but like
something as simple as dropping a piece of paper, like
and not bend over and pick that up like you
normally would if you've got a broken neck. And you know,
my sister the next day called her on a stepstool
trying to get some paper towels down from a show.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Lost her day mind, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, So it's just like and she's not thinking that,
and that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
She's just not thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
About, like really what the repercussions are if she gets
hurt again.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And you know, it's natural to want to just be
able to do what you can.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do well, and we're all kind of stubborn. I think
she's like stubborn when you need to stop and sit.
It's sometimes so hard to get yourself to do that.
That always happens with me. I was having those back spasms.
Do you remember that that for that week that was
last summer. And it took that truly, like I was
rendered so incapable of moving, and it took that for
(12:11):
me to just stop because I couldn't, like I just
could not move. And every time I would move even
the wrong, like in the slightest wrong way, in my
back would spasm again. It was so painful. So yeah, anyway,
maybe she's just supposed to sit and reflect on some
things right now.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Well I'm hoping too, because you know, if this feels irresponsible,
but the doctor told her that she's still allowed to drive.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But we're telling her not.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
To because yeah, all it takes is a dog running
out in front of you and you slam on the
brakes and you've thrown your neck out. But you know,
I said, look, this is an opportunity for you to
like make some changes, like you don't need to go
to the grocery store, like you can order everything online
and have a friend pick it up for you. And
she's like, yeah, but I like to touch my own fruit.
And I was like, well, this is three months. Yeah,
(12:52):
maybe you'll learn that you really actually like having everything
packed up for you so you don't have to go
spend an hour the grocery store and you can order
all the pack goods and then you go pick out.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Your fruit and your vegetables and that's all you have
to do.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So I'm hoping that like this isn't me just like
yelling at my mom and trying to get her to
behave and it's more about like me reframing things for
her because she she's just also habitual, like she's still
doesn't text, she doesn't have an ATM card, she doesn't
want to progress and anyway, she just likes to do
things her way. And I think this is kind of
(13:26):
an interesting time to like, you know, teach her.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some convenient things that have you know, progressed and changed
since she was born a million years.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Ago eighty to be exact.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Wow, Well, I really hope she gets well soon, and
obviously we'll need the updates from you as they come.
But I like the reframe too. I mean it always,
like we always say on this podcast, there is a
learning opportunity in every situation if you allow yourself to
go there. So maybe this is her time. Yeah, yeah,
Well the eleventh was a big day, and I mean,
I can't that was my birthday, seven eleven. It's hard
(14:01):
to forget. But I was on set actually all day
that day. I was working. This story is so crazy
and I'm not so sure. I did not work with
Elvis Presley. I got called to work on this job
(14:27):
with this man named Bob Joyce, and he's a pastor
in Arkansas. And if anyone's on TikTok or knows anything
about this story, you know that there's a conspiracy theory
that says he is Elvis, that Elvis did not die,
he faked his own death, and Bob Joyce is Elvis,
but doesn't want any of the fame or notoriety, and
(14:48):
so he's, you know, doing what he believes is the
work that God wanted Elvis to do. He says that,
but he does not say he's Elvis. So I know
it sounds crazy. I don't typically believe conspiracy theories, Like
I am not that person. I always when people are
like Britney's Bears is a clone, I'm like, no, she's not.
She's just on drugs, you know, like that's why she
looks so different. But I left this situation. I got home.
(15:12):
My boyfriend was here and he was like, you looked
like you'd seen a ghost and you truly believed that
that was Elvis. Like once I left, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh, I mean, I know I sound insane, but like
there's all these weird things. The only thing I cannot
wrap my mind around is that Elvis would be ninety
and so like I didn't really find Bob to be
moving in the way that I would think a ninety
year old would. My grandmother's ninety, like Elvis was actually
born a couple of days after her, and so like
I was comparing it to that, but she does have Alzheimer's.
(15:43):
So I'm like, I don't know if I'm getting you know,
like every person is different and what does ninety look
like for everybody? But I still don't really, I don't
know there's some weird connection.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Did you listen to the music?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well? He yeah, I mean we didn't. I didn't hear
his album, but like he played the piano right in
front of me, and it was freaky because it was
very soulful, like someone goes wait, you played the piano right,
because they were doing a shot right in front of
the piano and sat He was like, yeah, a little bit,
and he sat down and he played literally what I
would imagine Elvis was the tale play. But the reason
(16:15):
people think this, I can't remember exactly where it started.
But there are like six years in Bob's life right
after Elvis died where there's no documentation of where Bob was. Like,
there's this really weird thing with that. There's this other
connection of there's a vein pattern on his left hand
that's exactly the same as Elvis's. There's a scar where
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Elvis had had wounding on his right hand. Bob has
a scar in the exact same spot. He's married to
this woman who actually met she was there, who dated
Elvis when he was off at war. I guess that
was World War two, and that's who Bob's married to. Now.
He sounds just like him when he sings. He's the
(16:58):
same height, same shoe side. There are rumors that he
was at Lisa Marie Presley's funeral, but then I saw
this one article that said that was a songwriter that
just looked like him and not him. But the week
that Lisa Marie died. Apparently he gave a sermon and
like halfway through it was did like ten minutes about
(17:19):
the topic of lost, kind of randomly within the sermon
and could not stop crying. And so everyone was like, uh,
you know, just weird like that. I'm trying to think
of some of the other stuff. I mean, if you
guys google it, it is all over the internet. I
had no idea, and so when I get there, these
people are kind of almost like, should we tell her
(17:39):
to google him about me? And I was like, oh,
I google him, you know, because I always google new
people just to see what they look like. And they
were like, oh, well, so do you know about the
Elvis stuff? And I was like, oh, yeah, I saw
that there's a conspiracy theory about that. And they all
got silent and just looked at me, and I was like,
why are you guys being weird all of a sudden,
(18:00):
and they said, well, it is Elvis, like dead serious
to me, I thought they were fucking with me. I
could not like get over it. And yeah, there was
like went on on and on to tell me all
these different things and these weird connections to Elvis. I
don't know, he looks different, and so I was like,
I don't really know that. I feel like I feel
like it looks more like Kenny Rogers or something. Yeah,
(18:24):
and they were like, well, he's had work done, we
think to kind you know, obviously hide the Elvis thing.
They said, Elvis was in so much trouble with like
or he was so trapped. If anyone's seen the Elvis movie.
There was that colonel guy who was his manager, and
he had him to where he was doing this residency
like basically like a slave, like he couldn't leave, he
(18:45):
couldn't do any other shows. He had to do that show,
like he had no autonomy, and he wasn't really making
that much money. I think, like the colonel was taking
all his money. But he was also like so he
was in all this debt, but also like the mafia
was tied to that somehow. And so then the colonel
decided that Elvis was worth more to him dead than alive.
(19:05):
And so he said, sure, we can like fake your
death and I'll as long as I have ownership over
like Elvis Presley Enterprises, which he did for a long
time because he was like, if he dies, then I'll
quote if he quote unquote dies, then I'll make a
bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah. I mean yeah you can.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You can still do a lot of the things and
you don't have the costs.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah. And then Elvis just didn't want to be in
that anymore, didn't obviously was in danger with the mafia
and didn't want the fame or any of that. Like
he just wanted you know, he's all. He was actually
very religious. They also told me that like Lisa, Marie, Priscilla,
Linda Thompson, Riley Kiok, they all know, like this is
like a known thing, but they.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Station because that would be my question is why would
you ever choose.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
To like leave your fabandon your family.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Priscilla. They said Priscilla was an arranged marriage, like it
was never a real love story thing. Like it was
very much this arranged thing. And she's still trying to
like milk that whole thing and get money. Bob himself
doesn't take any money from like the records that he
puts out or anything. I guess he just takes it.
He lives in like a three bedroom, two bath house,
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like a normal house in Arkansas. And they're like he
makes all this money on these albums and in different
ways in the church or whatever, because I guess his
church is pretty successful. But he doesn't take any of that,
Like he just takes enough to live on and he
doesn't want, you know, like he's he's everything he does
is of service. And I gotta tell you guys, Okay,
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So you know, I'm pretty intuitive and like my body
does weird things when I know stuff. And I found
myself obviously like it was weird hearing these stories. But
I was kind of like I kept saying to the people,
are you all messing with me? Like I could not,
you know, I just felt like they were trying to
punk me or like I could whatever. Then the people
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there's also forgot to mention there's people shooting a documentary
about this right now, and so they kind of came too,
and I was like, well, why would Bob agree to
do this documentary if he doesn't want people to know
he's elvis or whatever, And so I can't really fully
grasp all of that. But this documentary will come out
in like a year. I'm trying to get them to
come on the podcast and it comes out so they
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can tell us more. But anyway, he after they're telling
me some of the things. When he gets there, they like,
stop talking about it. Obviously. It's like, so it's this
really weird thing. Like we weren't actually able to openly
speak about it very much. So I was getting bits
and pieces throughout the day. And when he got there,
I got so nervous, like, quote unquote seventy three year
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old man, we don't actually know how Aldio is, but
that's what they say Bob is. And that's not typically
like I work with pretty big artists, Like there's not
that's not typically a type of person who would kind
of make me star struck or weird. But I definitely
got nervous, and I got like, I don't know, I
couldn't tell. Why tell if it's because he doesn't really
like people touching him or you know, like things like that,
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or if it was because he's Elvis, I don't know.
But my body definitely got nervous. And then at the
end he came up to me and he was like,
remind me your name again, and I said Kelly, and
he was telling me thank you and stuff, and he
was but he was looking me in the eyes and
I wanted to cry. And when my body knows something's true,
it wants to like I start crying, like if I
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get an intuitive hit or if I'm in like a
session of I don't know. I'm trying to think, like
if I do any sort of healing session and someone says,
well it could be that blah blah blah blah blah
and it's true, I start crying. And it's because it's
like a recognition thing, I think. And that happened, So.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't did he ask you why you were crying
or did you I didn't cry.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I just teared up, and I was like, I gotta
walk away from him. It's like weird.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I don't be sad.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah. My agent was basically like, well, obviously tell everyone
you've worked to tell me.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, let's put that on the resume. Yeah, I mean,
here's the question.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And this isn't me like saying you should have done it,
but like, why not just ask him?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Like I could tell that they were not wanting to
talk about it in front of him, And I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Who were these people? Like were they people on his team?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Really, I don't know. Yeah, they're on his team. I
don't really know what their role was. There was this
married couple that they were older. I don't know if
they were like friends or they were on his team,
but his there was a daughter, a step daughter there,
and that was weird because they were like doing air
quotes around step daughter, like maybe it's his real I
don't know. The timeline wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Add up, so weird.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I feel like I feel like the conspiracy has been
started by the people around him.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well, I said, or is Bob just like playing into it?
I couldn't quite figure it out, like it just I
had so many questions about it, you know, and I
couldn't really fully ask them. The thing I said is
if he really wants to squad, goshit just let them
test his DNA. Why isn't that happening?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But then, I mean I went on a rabbit hole later,
like the day after, and there's this other guy that
has resurfaced at some point that I'm not convinced wasn't Bob,
And he had Presley DNA. And if you compare side
by sides with what Bob looks like with all of
us his dad, it's like identical.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So I don't have the answer. I just know there's
something weird going on. There, and I would love to
know if anybody has gone on a rabbit hole, because
I feel like I know so much about this situation
right now, I don't know if I'm doing it any
justice with the stories. There's just it's one of those
things where it's like all these facts come into your
brain randomly. You know, it's not always the best at
repeating them back. But yeah, and it sounds crazy. I
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totally understand that it sounds crazy. I just fully I
don't think I trust like the government obviously, with all
this Jeffrey Epstein stuff, I'm like, well, he's probably alive too,
I don't I don't believe anything that's going on with
that case. Like now, am I a conspiracy theorist?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Have I a commis person? I don't know. But with
the Elvis story, so I think I'm just kind of like,
I don't trust anything the government says right now. So
maybe this was some sort of plot to get Elvis
out of the situation he was in and they put
him in witness protection and now he's just teaching people
about God.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, crazier things have happened.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Crazier things have happened. So I don't know. I just
hope that they get this documentary out asap. They told
me it's going to be a while though, but they
get this out and we get some answers.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I wonder if.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
If it's like possible, mathematically possible for two people to
have really similar DNA but not.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Be from the same person.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Oh, because it's like it must be.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I mean, I don't know much about DNA, but I
feel like there must be some sort of mathm like,
however you DNA, there has to be some mathematics in that,
you know, like, well, okay, completely obviously it would be
completely random, you know, but like there has to be
two people with the same fingerprints in the world, Like
how many patterns are there?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't know. They say there's not, though, but with DNA,
I will say, so, I went so deep on this
rabbit hole that I found there has been someone has
come out I think it was in two thousand and
one and said that they were Elvis, but they went
by this name Jesse, which is Elvis's twin brother who died,
(26:36):
and then they ended up finding like some sort of
DNA of that. Guys, there's a lot of things with
Elvis too. Oh, I'm sorry I'm jumping ahead, but they've
got DNA of that guy's and he was connected to
the Presley family in some capacity. But the guy that
was the like doctor that was reporting in on this
DNA said, if we don't have this certain type of DNA,
there are a lot of similar variations and so like
(26:58):
it could just be reading that way, like similar to
what you're saying. Yeah, in that finding, they were trying
to pull from this old doctor some DNA samples that
he had of Elvis's and apparently from that doctor, Elvis's
autopsy DNA and Elvis's liver DNA from when he was
younger did not match, which made me think that his
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autopsy DNA was not real.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I don't know, guys, I need help on this one.
So if you have any thoughts on.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That, Yeah, like them what the science was like even
at the point of his death, that could just be
like it's caught up, so you know, we we can
read so much more now scientifically.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, right, And that's the hard part is the last
findings of anything Elvis. I mean, he apparently died when
he was forty two, so that was a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
How how precisely you added it because A Lord, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What to believe anymore. I truly don't. And it's so
weird that this is such a heavy conspiracy. Like I
if it was like one article that I had found,
I don't think I would put any weight to this.
But it's so widely talked about. I'm just like, why
is it getting so much traction?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And how did we never hear of it until you
had to work on with Elvis?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Think you say that now? I don't know, but I
it's weird because the more I've told this story, That's
why I'm feeling like somebody listening must have known about
this already, because apparently it's been all over TikTok. You
and I are just not on TikTok really right, right? So?
I think you know, I had a friend he was like, oh,
I've heard of this, so it's not not common to
know about this. And I just happened to get to
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work with Bob, so I experienced Elvis firsthand.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I gotta say he had some swag. No he was not,
but there was that thing of like he was a
little bit it kind of nri is that the right word?
Like he had that about him, but then on the
flip side, could be very charming too, So it was like,
once he warmed up, he was very charming in the
(29:13):
same way that like a superstar typically is. So that
was the other thing that threw me. I was just like,
oh my god, he is very much like the very
big stars that I've been around. Yes, and he's a pastor,
you know what I mean. That's where it starts to
throw you, as you're like, that's not really the world
he had. He definitely has that like star quality about him.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So I'm going to go listen after this. I need
to listen to those.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Listen to vocals. Oh yeah, yeah, report back while you
were gone. I had Hopewdard on. She coined the term
boy sober on TikTok a couple of years ago and
it's kind of gone into this viral movement and now
(29:59):
she is the host of her own podcast called boy Sober,
which is also when iHeart like ours is, And she
came on and it actually turned out to be this
really just fun conversation for me. It was just kind
of like girl talk. What I really appreciate about her
is she's just very honest, you know, like I think
a lot of people lead with this kind of expert
mentality or I've got it figured out, and she doesn't.
(30:22):
You know, she's talking about what boy sober is and
this journey that she's still continuing on. Basically, she coined
the term boys sober after going through some pretty like
toxic dynamics repeatedly in dating, and she was like, I
just got to take a break, and her sister said
something like, yeah, boys sober is better than any kind
(30:44):
of sober or something like that, and so they just
use that as this movement kind of to take a
break to really reevaluate how you're dating and decentralized, she says,
decentralized men in your life. So it's not just this
thing where I think so commonly you get just obsessed
about dating. You get obsessed with the unavailable guy. You know,
(31:07):
like we've all been there where you're just doing your
participating in these situationships or things that are just not
good for you, but you're obsessed with it and you're
finding yourself like stalking the guy who keeps watching your
Instagram stories or something. You know, like that's the that's
the thing that she taught, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're looking for you're looking for meaning that isn't there.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, and so she was just like, I just need
to reevaluate how I'm dating because also she had this
other guy who was available to her, who she had
kind of been back and forth with for years. Sounds
like he was very like interested in having a relationship
with her, and she could not show up for him
or in that relationship. So she's only wanting the unavailable,
you know. And I just so resonated with that, Like
(31:46):
that was dynamics that I've been through in the past.
And we've talked about how you know, you take breaks
from alcohol sometimes or something I've done. I know we've
talked about it on this podcast. It's something Hope's done
because you want to just make sure you're drinking if
you're going to drink in a way that's conscious, like
that you're aware of how you're using it, she said,
(32:07):
choosing not using, which I really appreciated, Like I love that.
And so anyway, that's what she wanted to do with
boy Sober, and I thought it was really an interesting concept.
She was super honest about her journey with that, and
I thought to myself, I wonder what Chip would think
about this because I feel like any of the game
men that I know have never mentioned anything like this,
And I was like, is this is this like a
(32:28):
hetero woman thing? Like are we the ones doing this?
Or is this across the board? Is it something that
you resonate with that all?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, I mean, yeah, I'd never heard the term.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
In fact, when when Kelly told me what we were
going to be talking about, I thought she said voiceover
and I was like, wow, I thought that term been
around for a long.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Time, but you're like, nothing groundbreaking.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
So I read about There was an article about her
in the New York Times that I read, and what
I think is also interesting that she pointed out in
that article that I'd like to I don't know, I
haven't listened to the podcast, so I don't know if
she you all touched on this. But part of the
reason why she chose to do it was that she
also recognized where she was at fault, well yeah, in
(33:13):
some in you know, and repeating patterns or being the
one who was like not really into it but dragging
it along or whatever. And so it wasn't just like
I'm shunning men because men suck.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
It was more about, like, wait, a minute, Like.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I've been in relationships my whole life and I'm still
not getting it right. Maybe I need to step back
and figure out who I am and what I want
and what I want out of relationships. So yeah, I
mean it certainly resonates with me. I said to you
before we started recording, I was like, honestly, I think
I could take a month of boys sobriety, like you know,
coming back from a trip, Like I'm always a lot
(33:49):
more active on apps when I'm in new places because
it is it's like window shopping and it's all new products.
So I'm acutely aware of how much time I've wasted
on apps in the last week and a half. And
then it's like it is it is an addiction thing,
like you are getting dopamine from those hits, and then
(34:11):
when you get home, it's hard to break that addiction again.
So I think I might just delete all the apps
from my phone for a month and see and just
try that. Yeah, Because the truth is, it's like it
is a zero return, and so far it's a zero
return investment for me, you know, Like, yes, I've I
have met some people on apps, and I've had short
relationships or long relationships with.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Them or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But the amount of time that I'm investing in people
that really has nothing to offer me or do not
align with what I really want.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But what I want is a response.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
From you know, in that moment, all I really want
is a response, and then then the dopamine starts or
validation or whatever it is. But that's not what I'm
ultimately looking for. I'm looking to fall in love and
have a partner in life and find that best friend
that I want to do everything with.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And if I'm observing.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
What i'm the way that I'm acting and going about
that like all I'm doing is wasting my time and
when I could just be focusing on making myself the
best version of me and focusing on all of the
things that I love. Because then I feel like, at
least I'm putting myself in the environments where I'm going
(35:28):
to meet someone that is interested in spending the time
with me.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, and that's a line, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And of course, look like all of us have physical
needs too, and I think some of these apps are
good for that because if you need to get laid
sometimes it is just like a really quick exchange and
that's all that is. But I also think too, like
if I step back and observe that sort of pattern,
that's not healthy either because it's you're not really yeah,
(35:55):
you might be satisfying an itch it's transactional. That it's
transactional then, but it also I think it fuels that
sort of addiction too, because it's about it's about you know,
it's like a drug, like if you're addicted to heroin,
Like you'll do whatever it takes to get that heroin.
And then it's not like you're better off afterwards, you know, like, yeah,
(36:18):
you've satisfied the itch for a while, but you really
haven't fixed the problem. No.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I think that's always the interesting point, right, Like I
told we talked about this a little bit on the podcast,
but I said, the word sober is associated obviously with addiction, right,
And that might sound extreme to some people to go
boy sober, But I think the point of any sort
of sober curiosity that we're starting to talk about in
our culture is to actually be paying attention to how
(36:47):
you're moving and choosing and not just using, you know,
because we really aren't set up to do that yet
or we haven't been. Like, I think it's becoming more
common to talk about. But if you really trace back,
like for women, if you trace back to childhood, start
thinking about like Disney movies. I mean, we're truly programmed
from day one that the most important thing for your
(37:07):
life is to find your prints. And so if that
is your only mark of success or what happiness would
look like in your programming, you're gonna be to have
this like that sense of urgency about it, you know
what I mean. And so that becomes the thing that
you're also chasing. And it's just like, if you're not evaluating,
(37:28):
like what you were saying about hope, if you're not
evaluating your movements, are you even doing it because you
want to be doing it? Are you doing it because
of the shoulds, because of the pressure? Are you showing
up to actually date an available person? Are you chasing
that guy who's never gonna show up for you in
the way that you probably want in your life? And
(37:48):
to your point about the sex, she mentioned that too,
because she was just like, you know, we can all
do that too, And she's like, I think there was
this big movement amongst women where it's like to take
back your sexual and empowerment. You just sleep around a bunch,
and it's like, that's not actually that empowering. It's really not.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, it's not, like but it is it.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I feel like because of the programming, we're not even
sure what we want, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Like because the points.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, even like.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Even for a straight dude, like there is the programming
of like you got to go out and get laid tonight,
or you're not like as macho as the next.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Guy, so which feeds into the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Like then who's an easy target some girl who is
desperate for just attention, you know, And but then she
if if she's on the hunt too, just to check
that box, like then they feel like they've succeeded at something,
but in reality, they're just making it harder for them
to know what they really want because they have the
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satisfaction of achieving a goal in the moment versus like
the real goal of like wanting to connect with another
human being. And you know, I can, without any judgment,
sit Aaron, understand why we're in this position, both males
and females.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You know, well, I think we all can relate to it,
Like we've all been there in our lives, and I
don't have any judgment of whether you fully want to
be in a relationship or you just want to go
out and have fun and go on some dates or
just hook up or whatever it is that like you
truly want, that's on you. That's not my place to
say anything about what anyone should be doing with their
life or their relationships or their dating. I don't believe
(39:34):
that it's one size fits all. I really don't. But
I think the point being do you even know what
you want? Like you're saying, like, are we just going
through the motions of life or are we making conscious decisions?
And like if you say you really want a relationship,
are you dating that way? Like my boyfriend has this
friend and we keep getting so frustrated with him because
(39:56):
he keeps saying I want to get married and have kids.
I think that he just says that because of the
way he grew up and he feels like that's what
he should do, because the way that this mandates is
not for that, you know what I mean. He has
available women who would make great partners or mothers or
things like that that he will not even pay attention to,
and he always chases after the emotionally unavailable woman or
(40:20):
the woman who cheats on him that he gets obsessed with,
like it's that dynamic. So I don't think he's actually
really available himself. And I keep saying that, but I
only know that because of my own patterns, you know. Yeah,
I think we're so often operating from the shoulds or
the panic of oh, this is what I've been taught
(40:40):
my whole life will make me happy or successful or
look good on paper or anything like that, And it's
not truly at all this conscious decision. And so that's
what Hope's whole point is is to take the pause,
take the break, go boy sober or girl sober or
whatever it is, and ask yourself, like, what do I want?
Right am I Am I dating the right people for
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the things that I want? Like just questions like that,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, I mean I think it's it's not black and white,
you know, Like, and I fully agree with you, like
if you want to go have fun, go have fun.
If you want to be in a relationship, be in
a relationship. But I think some people just see it
both of those things at surface level, like I just
want a relationship or I wanted to have fun, And
it's so much deeper than that, Like you have to
(41:29):
define what kind of relationship you want and what that
needs to look like for you to be happy in
a relationship, because ending up in a shitty relationship is
really easy to do too, you know, like you've been there.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So I think a lot of people because the idea,
all the deepest they've thought about it is I want
to I want a relationship, I want to get married,
I want to find someone to spend my life with,
and not like they haven't really envisioned what that person
is and what those qualities are and what they how
they want that relationship, how that relationship will work for them.
And so the pattern there is you go through a
(42:04):
breakup and you don't observe what happened, and you just
go into another relationship.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Absolutely you know, yes, and then you keep going on
the same thing. You find yourself in the same kind
of relationship. Yeah, and it's just repeating the cycle.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
It's a really interesting concept. I brought this up with you.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I wonder if there is a term like voy sober
or obviously it needs a term, but like, is there
an exercise, okay that people who are in healthy relationships
could do to sort of make sure that their relationships
stay healthy, because I think you know, like sometimes what
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happens in relationships is that you get in a relationship
and it's good, but you lose yourself within the relationship
and you lose things outside of the relationship because you're
so focused on just that, Like could you do like
would it makes sense if you're in a really healthy,
strong relationship to look at your partner and be like, hey,
let's just like I'm not going to sleep with anybody,
(43:02):
Like this isn't about us breaking up. This is about
me going and spending a month, two weeks whatever it
needs to be with me so that I can reconnect
with myself and so that I miss you and all
of the things.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And then if you come back just like rejuvenated, Like
does that exist? Does anyone do that? I'm just so curious.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
What's interesting is do you remember two weeks ago I
told you I had Kelly Coin on and we talked
about the different variations within relationships that she was writing
about in New York Times and Washington Post. One of
them was couples who lived separately in separate houses, and
where most of those situations began was with a conversation
like that of, Hey, I've supported your dream for X
(43:45):
amount of years, I'm so grateful for where you've gotten.
Like there was a one couple specifically that she mentioned
that the woman had helped the man really build up
his career and get it to this place that he
wanted it to be, and at the end of that
she was left realizing, but I didn't focus anything on
my dreams in my job and my career. And so
that was when they decided to live in separate houses.
(44:06):
And it wasn't from a contentious place at all. In fact,
it brought them closer together. And now they live together
again and they're so much closer. But in that time,
she built her own business and really got in touch
with her passions again. And so when she came back
to the relationship, like you said, there was no like
they weren't outside of the relationship. It wasn't like they
were dating other people or even not talking to each other,
(44:29):
but they just lived separately because she could not. She said,
I could not be in the same house and put
as much focus on myself, which I think is very
common with the woman in the relationship like that that role.
But I think, like to your point, I think that
can be easy for anyone to fall into the relationship
becoming the universe. I used to have a mentor that
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would say to me, it's a relationship, not the universe,
because I would just revolve around the relationship that I
was in at the time, to the neglect of my
own self, my own life, my own job, my own friends,
you know, and so now in my life because I
crashed and burned so hard on those levels and it
(45:11):
took me to my knees literally to like the bottom
of the barrel. I got to the place where I
was like, yo, I built a life that I love.
If you can contribute to that, great And that's the
kind of relationship that I'm in now, is that we
both contribute to each other's lives in a good way,
but also we have lives that we love ourselves. And
(45:32):
it's it's just changed the game for me to be
in a relationship like that.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, I mean the distance makes sure's unique too. Yeah,
because you don't like you're you're sort of forced to
take a break yea.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, and which is which is kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I mean, I guess it sort of plays into that,
you know, living in other apartments and stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Like, Yeah, I mean, because we definitely miss each other
and we get.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
To you have to like make the most of the
time that you're good.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
It wouldn't benefit anyone if you all or just together
and then fighting the whole time because things are good,
you know. It's like, but obviously it's you have to
use the time to communicate.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
We have to communicate more than I've ever had to
communicate relationship because we're apart, you know. So it's, yeah,
it's a different dynamic, but yeah, you're right, like you
maximize your time together, and you also have to learn
to ebb and flow with each other's lives as you're
like moving in and out of them and then go
back or you know, really maximize the time you have
(46:28):
to yourself. And like I really work hard when he's
not here, I'm not there, you know, like or really
try to see all my friends. So it is a
different dynamic, but it's for me, it's one I'm really
enjoying right now. It helps me balance that voice soberness
or whatever a little bit more so. Anyway, I just
think it's a really interesting concept, and I think I'm
always a big fan of reflecting, you know, like taking
(46:51):
the moment, reflecting on what you're doing, like your movements,
how are you moving are you are you moving in
a way that's in the line with what you actually want,
what you actually value, within your integrity and all those things.
Are you moving unconsciously? Because we all do that too,
and our culture really sets us up for that to
be really easy to just throw another thing at it,
(47:12):
throw another man in the mix, throw another date on
the plot, you know, like go out and hook up,
like you were saying, like, it's just like we're set
up to keep the dopamine hits flowing if we want to,
but sometimes it's not going to fully give us what
we actually really want that will be satisfying.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I mean, I think ultimately we have to think about
our long term goals. You know, like dating is is
no different than building a career that you're obsessed with
or whatever it is. You know, it's if you have
a creative project that you're working on, it's you don't
want to be most excited about it on the first day.
You need to be something that's sustainable and you have
(47:52):
to know what you're like, what those benchmarks are going
to be, so that you recognize, like you're still in
it for the right reasons or whatever that you know.
I don't know if I'm articulating that properly, but.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
I think I know what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, yeah, And I know from my past experience that
I get really caught up in just the idea. I
get excited when I meet someone in their feels like
there's some connection.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's that yeah and dreamy right, yeah, so I don't but.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
You want to make sure it's not delusional in dreaming, right, yeah, right,
and you're not just getting wrapped up in the fantasy.
You and I both have this Piscy's man, and I
think it is easy to get wrapped up in the
fantasy idea of someone versus the actual reality of who
they are.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Oh, trust me, Like it's still fresh for me. Yeah, yeah,
not super fresh, but somewhat I know what you mean. Yeah,
My last you know, sort of dating experience was that so.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Live and learn, you know, live and learn. But I do.
I love this concept, you know, like a pause.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
We talk about that a lot on the podcast, but
I think the pause is where that's the most important
thing just in life in general.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Like life in general.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, this is just like it's such a personal and
you know you have to like have your own back
in these situations and know with confidence why you're gonna
take that pause, because it's often the first thing that
anyone asks people that they haven't seen it while are
you dating anybody?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Like it's the only in your life.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
It's so annoying that, Yeah, that's a case in point
of are we doing it for the pressure of those
situations or Like, it's what we were talking about last
week when I was saying, if my boyfriend and I
moved to the same city right now, it would only
be to satisfy everyone else asking us those questions. It
wouldn't be because that's what's best for us. And so
it's the same concept. It's just like, who are you
(49:36):
doing things for? Is it really what you want? And
it's about defining your life in the way that you
really want you that's true for you, right, But we're
just not really taught to do that from day one,
And so I think it's really cool that these conversations
are coming out now and we can start asking ourselves
those things and moving that way.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, anyway, if you guys have thoughts on this boy
sober concept, if it's something you've done in your life
or you're totally against it, whatever it is, or if
you think you know about Elvis, please let me know.
Please let me know. You can email us at the
Edge at velves edge dot com. You can also hit
me up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Chip, I'm at Chip Doors. It's h I P D
O R s ch.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Oh you really gave them there. You can also follow
our new page at Velvet's Edge podcast that will be
coming soon. We're working on some things I'm really excited about.
And you can also watch this on YouTube. You're visual now,
you're so we really are? All right anyway. I hope
you guys have a great weekend. And as you guys
(50:39):
move into your weekend and you're living on the edge,
I hope you always remember.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Too at casual. Bye.
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