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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Heather ivany spiritual mentor, it's here. She is an Acacia
guide and yoga teacher with twenty plus years of experience
leading souls through life altering transformation and growth that aligns
them to their current being the keyword current purpose.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Heather, Hi, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm doing very well. Happy to be with you today.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Kelly, Thanks so much for being here. I found your
story so interesting because now you're in this world of
being a spiritual mentor. You have such a history in yoga,
but you didn't always work in this area. So you
started in something of firefighting, and it was river guiding,
I believe, which is completely different. So can you talk
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us through how you got from firefighting and working outside
into this now spiritual job and helping other people on
their journeys.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, for sure. So the curiosity with the spiritual realm
has kind of always been there since I was a kid.
I mean, the access that I had to it was
more through the church, Catholic Church growing up. But even
though I didn't quite align with that house, there was
always a part of me that was curious in what
more was available to us that we just couldn't see.
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And then I grew up in a house with like
two older brothers, really had to like elbow your way
in to get any attention and anything done. So I
had a very like jock kind of upbringing. We grew
up in the eighties when you're kind of flying around
the neighborhoods on bikes and you had a lot of freedom.
So that just carried with me in my teens in
my twenties, so I got into river guiding first. It
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was a combination of river guiding and rock climbing and
leading people on hiking trails and whatnot in the rocky
mountains in Alberta and Canada, and then spent some time
up north on the Nahani River, which which is one
of the bigger, more famous rivers here in Canada. And
what I noticed in that industry was it's just so
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type A. It's very masculine, it's very go go go
in the sense of like doing doing all the exciting
things in nature. And so there's always a part of
me that was kind of longing for a little bit
more solitude and quiet and contemplation. So what actually pulled
me out of that was more burnout and my body,
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I was noticing wasn't doing well with all the demands
that were placed upon it, and then the income was
just really low, so I moved out of that. I
started playing a little bit with what else can I
do that's that's related to being physical, but actually could
lead me into deeper pockets. And so that's when I
started to explore yoga. And for me, when I first
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started playing with yoga, actually didn't even know that the
physical component of the austina was connected to meditation or
philosophy in any way. I didn't actually discover that until
I went into a teacher training. And when you start
to play with all the different facets of yoga, that's
where I was really opened up to the different layers
and branches that are connected to it. But I was
also noticing how much it related to me in the
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different things that I had interest in and passions with.
But I just didn't know that there was a home
where they could actually all participate together. What kind of
led me into the passion and the romance and the
smittenness with the yoga realm? For sure.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You mentioned burnout, and that's something I've talked a lot
about on this podcast because I found myself there a
couple of years ago as well. And for me, it
was very tied into the go go go, and I
was operating a lot in my masculine. Was there anything
specific that you could kind of give listeners that you
started to recognize in yourself that you were able to
identify as you operating in the masculine and knowing like
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that wasn't your core energy and where you needed to
stay to really thrive.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah. For me, I mean it shows up in interesting ways.
For me, I think what I would notice the parts
of myself that I didn't like. So when I'm deep
into the mask and I can get a real kind
of sarcastic, kind of cutting humor, that can show up
that I would say things that I thought was funny,
and then afterwards I was like, Oh, I don't like
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how that came across or how I behaved in that situation.
I also noticed that my cycle would stop and slow down,
like that's how extreme.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I was with Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And then the sort of part that kind of really
hit home was the industries that I'm in attracts of
very similar personalities. So the guys that I would be
dating and hanging out with, they were really attracted to
the part of me that had this real outdoors kind
of adventurous spirit. And then when I went into the
firefighting realm, I met a mechanic who's now my husband,
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but he was a helicopter mechanic and he saw the
parts of me that I actually was covering up, and
that's where he started to, you know, take interest in me.
And as those parts started to be revealed, it was
almost like a longing for myself started to come forward,
and these feminine aspects of me just really wanted an outlet.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Did yoga doing so much yoga really help you tap
more into your feminine I know I've heard that movement
like yoga is very essential for women or I guess
anyone trying to tap into their feminine energy.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, definitely. What I think yoga did for me is
because it's a practice that can really slow down. It
gets you to move out of non patterned grooves, so
it gives you it gives you possibility and potential to
move in a way that's not patterned. And then as
soon as you're moving in a non patterned way, you're
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giving yourself choice and freedom to play with what else
is available to you. The biggest thing I noticed with
the yoga was like prior to that, a lot of
the like I've been a teacher since I was young.
I've always coached or done something in that capacity. But
when I moved into the field of yoga, it was
teaching and leading from a more introverted, I would say,
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slightly tender, more vulnerable part of myself. Prior to that,
I'd always taught and coached from the real extroverted, outgoing
nature within me. So that was where it was almost
demanded of me to kind of entertain and get familiar
with the feminine so that the parts of the yoga
experience that wanted to be revealed to the class could
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come forward.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That just hit me so hard because even in this
podcast or any of the work that I do, something
I've never been able to identify with is speaking from
that expert place and that driver of like this is
what you should do. I'm like, I don't know what
anyone should do on their journey, Like their journey is
their journey, you know, But I can tell you guys
about my experience. I'm realizing maybe I'm grappling with that
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because of masculine and feminine energy.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't same as you're saying
that you don't know what people need. You know yourself best.
But the part of you that wants to like the
part of us that's connected to the over preparedness and
trying to cot with all your questions kind of laid
out before you start, and then directing and managing and
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controlling how the conversation goes. That's very much like the masculine,
and it's kind of more hard edged form. But what
you said to me at the very beginning is I
love this to be conversational.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I have a few points that create a bit of
a framework of how to lead in, but then from
there we'll just see where it takes us. That's the feminine,
the one that wants to create and explore through us.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah. So interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well, earlier I mentioned the words current purpose, and I
found that really interesting when I was reading about your work,
because you specifically say that our incarnated purpose is fluid
and it changes as we evolve, and I've never registered
anything remotely close to that, and I've always thought you
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just came here and you have this one purpose and
this is the way, and if you're in line with it,
things are going to work out and if you're off
like things are going to start going bad. So can
you talk through that a little bit? Because I'm fascinated
by that concept.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, the conversation of purpose. I think we make it
static because we forget that it's energy and so everything,
everything that we relate to is energy, and so energy
is always in form of change. It's always changing. Sometimes
it's slow and sometimes it's fast. So the experience that
I've had with myself and with others is that our
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purpose will reveal itself to the degree that our becoming,
which is the part of ourselves that's growing and expanding,
is expressed. So when I was in my early twenties,
my purpose very much so was being in the field
of teaching yoga and leading people through classes. And I
don't want people to sort of box purpose into just
being a career of vocation. It's more how we show
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up and engage with the dance of life. Right. And then,
if the Acashek records would have come in in my twenties,
I wouldn't have been prepared for it. I wouldn't have
known how to manage it and work with it because
I didn't have the tools and the skill set to
play with it. So now in my mid to late forties,
the purpose for me right now that I'm noticing is
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that I'm aligning people with their individual self, their center,
their purpose, and supporting them with expanding it so people
can come in and just get more direction as to
what brings meaning into their life. And I can also
work with the individual that's like, I know exactly what
I'm here to do, but I just don't know how
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to amplify it, how to express it, how to expand it.
So I work with either aligning or expanding people's purpose,
but absolutely it's always changing, and the degree to which
we are moving towards our next becoming is the degree
to which our purpose will be revealed to us.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So it really is about, well, the way I'm hearing that,
it's where we are in our journey, and that, like
you said, you couldn't identify what the Acashak records. We'll
explain what that is. And at just a second, you guys,
if you're listening and you're like, what is that? I
didn't know either, But you couldn't have identified it or
even maybe had an interest in it in your twenties
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because that wasn't where your journey was leading at that point,
but as you evolved and grew and face different challenges
or whatever it was, then things are able to come
in and you're kind of presented with the options at
that time.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Totally and for me, like yoga will always be my baseline.
It's okay, the way that everything has kind of built
from the foundation of the yoga practice that I started
in my teens, So that needed to be established and
anchored first for me, not for everyone, before I could
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move into the platform of the Acasia. So for example,
if I just sprung right into the Akasak records, but
I didn't have an anchor, I didn't have a foundation,
I didn't have a baseline, then it would become a
very scattered energy. Yeah, probably be fleeting. It would probably
come across as sort of the stereotypical kind of wooho
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kind of girl who you know, has rose colored glasses.
Because I'm not really a part of the physical realms,
three dimensional realm of Earth. So I got that baseline
very deeply rooted, and then I allowed myself to liberate
into the Acashak records. But they're both equally a part
of my my my every day, and there's no hierarchy
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between the Earth and the cosmos. They're very equal to me.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, well, we've mentioned then Kashak Records, and I said
we would explain this because I've heard of this, I've
heard these words, but it is very much just this
kind of daunting thing to me that I've just never
really come across in any sort of the work that
I've done. Can you, first of all, just explain what
are the Akashak records.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So Akasha is sort of the bigger umbrella of the
Akashak records. So Akasha is a Sanskrit word which means
space or spirit. So if you are more science based,
then the word space relates to the quantum field, which
is the study of everything, right, And if you're more
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spiritually based, then spirit connects to consciousness and consciousness is everywhere.
So Akasha is just this big word that envelops everything.
But the Akashak Records specifically is basically, if you think
of it, kind of like the divine blueprint of your soul.
So everyone, if you're open to it, has a soul,
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and that soul has information contained within it, which we
call the Kashak Records. It's the timeline of your soul.
So if people are open to having previous life experiences,
whether it's on Earth or on other planets, that's sort
of encapsulated in the frequency of someone's soul. It's like
an etheric library book of your history, your present moment,
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and then the future possibilities that are available to you.
So when someone reads someone's Akashic records, you tap into
it like you dial into like an old school radio frequency,
and then once you're dialed in, you can ask questions
and receive information about that person's soul and share it
with them. And trust me, Like, as I'm sharing this,
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I still, even though I've been playing with this for
five years, like it still has a surreal vibration to
me as well. And it's still sometimes slightly not the
most comfortable thing to talk about because it's just so
far reaching for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I get it right, So for people listening that might
be like, uh huh, So you're saying, basically, you get
what I would presume or maybe downloads by tapping into
someone's else someone else's records, And if not, what does
that look like?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Like, how does that sound? What are you getting? What
kind of information comes through.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So the way that is sort of easiest to play
with it would be we all have senses, right, So
part of our human expensive experience is that we get
to play with our senses. So we have taste, touch, smell, site,
and sound. Right, those are our five senses. Now, when
you take those five senses and you lighten them, they
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become what we call Clare abilities. So the most familiar
one that people are relating to is clairvoyant, right, the
ability right with your eyes closed, The ability Claire audio
is hearing when there's no sound. And then you have
Clare sentient, which is feeling, sensation and emotion. Claire cognizance
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is like that inner knowing. And then so we usually
just put all of those into the blanket terminology of intuition.
When I'm working with either myself working with a client,
or if I'm teaching others how to work with the
Acashic records, the communication line between the physical and the
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non physical realm is your senses, which are physical, but
they become a little bit more light and they turn
into Clare abilities, which then becomes like the communication line
between the physical and the non physical. So if I'm
receiving information and I'm in your records. Oftentimes I'll get
sensation in my body. Sometimes I'll get a visual. Now,
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my primary Claire is not clairvoyant, so oftentimes if I'm
getting strong visuals, it's because the client that I'm working
with actually has strong visuals, and I'm because I'm in
their records. I'm perceiving their records from their viewpoint, and
sometimes I get it as a knowing. So how I
sort of play with a session is I'll take a
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few minutes to ground and centrists both I do what
I call a banishment mantra, which is basically just clearing
the static out of your space. Because we're kind of
valkyrie by nature and we take on a lot of
things during the day, so the banishment mantra just kind
of clean slates it and like the ginger after the resabi,
and then I have a short two or three lines
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that I use to open up the records. And what
happens for me is each time I open someone's records,
it's everyone has their own signature GPS signal, so it
has a slightly different sensation when I'm opening up your
records versus someone else's records. Versus someone else's records. So
the moment I open it, sometimes I'll get like a
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warm sensation in my heart. Sometimes I'll get a sensation
of energy pulling upwards. Sometimes I'll get a like almost
like a pinching or throbbing across the third eye. So
it will open from different locations, and then where it
opens from there's information there as to like the why right,
and some of it's very common. Like if someone opens
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up right from the heart space and it's a big,
open hearted expression that I can feel in sense, then
this person very much is an emotional person, and when
they're in their essence, they are operating from what feels
best in their heart. If I open up and I
get a strong sensation and tingling in the crown chalker,
chances are that person's clear cognisance and Claire cognisance is
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highly related to our intellects, and so I'll get the
information from that. What I'll infer from that is that
this individual is probably a strong intellect that has a
strong sense of knowing, and what they may or may
not be aware of is that they're clear. Cognisance usually
comes in just slightly faster than thought. So if I
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was to say to you, hey, do you want to
you know, check out and go to San Francisco this weekend.
You'll get an instant yes or an instant note of that.
And then what follows in afterwards is the rational mind
of oh my god, that's ridiculous. We can't actually take off.
We have this, this and this going on right.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Oh my god, this is fascinating. So everyone has some
sort of clear something and is it just that in
each individual we have a different signature, so some of
them may be stronger than others. And what this work
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does if help you really kind of understand how yours
works totally.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So what I'm noticing is like kind of the post
pandemic era, yeah, is that for whatever reason, veils were lifted,
things were released, and people are having more easy being
able to access what they couldn't access before. So prior
to pandemic, I would sort of see someone come in,
I'd be like, okay, you're super sharp clairvoyant, and it's
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this singular Claire that's like kind of your Claire. Now
what I see almost every time. So when I do
in aksha training, when I'm teaching people how to read
the akashik records. They get a Kashak record reading with
me before we go into the training, and in that reading,
I'm identifying what their claars are, so that when we're
in training, I can know how best to coach and
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speak and mentor to them based on what their clayers
are strongest with. But what's really interesting is that what
I'm seeing is almost everyone now is multi claire. But
you'll just have thumb claires that are more predominant than others.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And it's like a muscle.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So if you want to be a stronger runner, what
do you do. You hire a coach and you start
running and you work with your nutrition. So if you
want to be stronger clairvoyant, you might do practices like
something like a visual meditation rather than a sensory meditation.
You might play with increasing your daydreaming. Right, So just
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allowing yourself to get to sit on the couch and
have a cup of tea and just let the imagination
go wild. And for many of us we block this
out because it's not a part of the responsibilities of
being an adult, but it's so signature to so many
people's essence of being in their nature is giving themselves
permission to daydream and visualize and imagine. Other people might
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play with a practice like yoga nidra, which is the
yoga of sleep. So you're lying down on your back
and you're listening to an audio recording and in the
process of a yoga nidra, it'll have a moment where
it moves through rapid visualizations and longer visualizations. And when
you work with a yoga nidra, over time your ability
to recall those images speeds up and it becomes more vivified.
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So yes, everyone has them, and you can work them
in and curate them if you want to.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
What's so fascinating I have said over and over on
this podcast, I'm like the pandemic was this massive trauma
that we all went through together, and I've felt the
shift in people, like things have just been different. I've
looked at it as people became more aware of if
they were depressed, Like we just had to slow down, right,
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So we've had to face ourselves in some capacity, way,
shape or form. And it felt like there were so
many different things happening too, politically and just like the
divisiveness of our culture, and so then it was like
people seem to be seeking I think that's how I've
said it is something seems like people are shifting. They
want to know what's going on with them, they want
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to look into these healing practices. So it's so fascinating
to me to hear you say that you're recognizing people's
kind of awareness just opening up in general.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, and same conversation, but in slightly different languaging. What
I sort of see is that if we rewind maybe
two or three hundred years ago, we had a very
strong investment in humanity to have faith and belief in
what we couldn't see. Now. The downside of that is
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we kind of outsourced it entirely to of our religious
leaders and spiritual teachers, and we know the side effect
of that of how it can just be manipulated and
used to a disadvantage towards us. So then we abandon it.
And for the last two or three hundred years, we've
placed all of our real estate into what we call
the rational realm, which is great. It gives us the
sense of control and allows us to get a lot
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of things done. But what people are realizing is that
they're missing meaning in life, and meaning comes from the realm.
That's irrational. I'll call it that because it is irrational.
It does things that are beyond what is predictable and
they don't make sense. And so for many of us,
what we're leaning into is how can we recreate the
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ability to trust and have faith in what is irrelevant
when we've been taught that when things are irrational, not irrelevant, irrational,
but when we're taught when things are irrational, that we're
meant to avoid them and only hunt for what's rational
and what's practical and what makes sense. But that gives
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us such a domestication that our wildness within us is
being lost, and we need both. We need to have
our wildness. We need to have the spontaneous way that
life shows up the things that are unpredictable and we
can't plan for. That's where our liveness comes from. And
then the domestication is great because it allows us to
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have the advancements that we do because we're not spending
ten hours a day building a fire and cooking back right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's so interesting too, because if you know anything about
astrology and my listeners, we do an astrology report every
month to start the month, and this ties in so
much with the shifts that we're seeing how we were
in the difference, Like we're moving into the Age of Aquarius,
which is all spiritual and innovative and tapping into deeper
meanings just like you're saying. And so it all works together.
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But I love that this kind of taps into your
individual way to process through all the changes that we're
going to be making, like just as a world.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, I love how how the spider web is constantly connecting.
So I have a colleague that her name has ever
done what she's out of Australia.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I know Emma, she's done this podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh awesome. So yeah, that she's a huge human design coach,
right yes, yeah, So when I come on what's fascinating
for me is when I come on to her portal
and I do some guest teaching in there. Her clientele
is all very well versed in human design. And what's
interesting to me is I can come in and do
in a kashik record reading with someone and I will
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because I'm not human design, like I know a little bit,
but not them, right yeah. And what's fascinating is that
the points that I speak to line up with their
human design chart, even though I don't know what their
astrology or human design chart is. So yeah, it's and
it finally explained to me why I because I love
Emma and every time I work with her, I get
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super lit up. But I can't seem to get myself
to really get into the theory of the human design.
And then it just clicked for me, And it's because
that's not my method. My method is right through the
Yucashic records, and so you're right, it's all kind of
these different ways that we can play with it, but
we end up at the same meeting.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Place one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean, that's why I love doing this podcast because
I get to interview different facilitators of these different things,
and then the listeners get to decide which way they
want to go, like which one is lighting them up,
which one is speaking to them. And I am one
of those people that likes to dabble in a little
bit of all of it because I think it's so
fascinating and validating to me to have the connections happen,
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because then it's just like, oh, right, I heard that
over here and then you're saying the same thing. So
it's very much in line with me my purpose, who
I am all of those things altogether? Yeah, yeah, Well,
speaking of Emma, actually I listened to the podcast that
you did with her, and you guys were talking about
a client of yours. I thought this was really interesting
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that it was diagnosed with ADHD, I believe, and you
were saying after you did a reading with him, you
were able to identify. No, you're just getting the pings
of the different players. Stopped me if I'm saying this incorrectly,
But that was part of the way he was supposed
to get or use his intuition or move through life.
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And it's so interesting that we as a culture will say, no,
something's wrong with you. You have ADHD, you need to be
on medicine. And it was really how he's supposed to exist.
So can you talk through a little bit of why
maybe these things that we perceive as negative qualities are
actually not and it could be our strongest assets.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well, we could open up a bit of a can
of worms. Okay, if we want to get into like
the the why would we want to clip someone's wings
or pin someone down? There's a lot of I mean,
we can get into our our systems and whatnot as
to why that could happen, but I think, what what
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I've seen. Oftentimes when yes, when someone comes in and
they have a history of ADHD where I've seen it,
And this is what I love the most is that
I get so educated by reading other people's records, because
there's a lot of things that come in around I'm like, oh,
my goodness, I've never seen this before, and I just
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start to stay with the breadcrumbs, and as I'm sharing
it with the individual across from me, I'm simultaneously being
educated and taught as to the other option that could
be here that we're not right. So with the ADHD
in particular, when you take that energy and you put
it into a lighter form, oftentimes what I see is
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people that are presenting as ADHD on Earth. They have
so many different ways that they need to receive information
so that they can make sense of what's going on
and create their next steps. And so oftentimes these are
people that have, if you're open to it, they've had
lifetimes on other planets where they've shown up in different
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ways and they've taken that intellect and that wisdom teaching
from that lifetime and they're bringing it into this lifetime.
So someone for example that I find when people are
very I call them almost like frequency based individuals. So
when I open up their records, I might see like
almost like color moving in a wave like form, or
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it feels almost like a pulse, or like their essences
kind of slowly mean during down a river. Oftentimes these
individuals have had lifetimes where they've been more in formlessness
than form and so the frequency of that lifetime comes
into this lifetime and they're very clear sentient, they feel
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very much sensation that comes through. And there are oftentimes
people that are very strong Claire audio in a sense
that music is an excellent way to help to open
up the meditation current for them. Music can take them
to places where voice and language can't. And so frequency
type individuals they need to receive in a numerous different ways.
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So they need to feel it, they need to hear it,
they'll know it when it comes in right. So this
is how the multiplayers are all coming in. And if
you take someone that learns and discovers in this way
and then you strip the way that they learn a
way and pin them into a one pointed focus, it
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doesn't work for them very well. And so in our
society it's challenging because we just have a society that's
so well set up for the nine to five than
the linear way of working right, and ADHD doesn't work
that way. So I mean an easy way to rather
than trying to figure out how to incorporate them into society,
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it's easier to medicate and make them fit the mold.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That makes them so sad.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Or the opposite. And this is what I this is
just you know, my insight is that there's a way
that they communicate. Yeah, that is beyond the advancement of
where we're at. And that's threatening.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh believe that.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So if it's threatening, what do we want to do?
We want to shut it down?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
How do we control it?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
We control it? Yeah? Now, am I totally saying that
there's not a time and a place for people to
have coping mechanisms and a way to deal totally? Absolutely,
But there's more options out there. And I think that
if we can start to see ADHD as as a
superpower rather than a hindrance, I just think that that
just supports people so much more in their authenticity.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, it really goes along with anything though, because like
I'm a very I'm a feeler and that's the way
I describe it. But I'm assuming maybe that I'm very
clear sentient, like I definitely feel things of other people.
I am forty two and I'm just now learning wait wait, wait,
this is like literally a superpower. I can feel things
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when I walk in a room that other people aren't identifying,
and so I'm learning, and I'm also learning what's mine
and what someone else is because I've just walked around
my whole life feeling like almost a crazy person some
days because I'm feeling so many things at so many times,
and i think that I'm sad or I'm mad or whatever,
and I'm like, but why doesn't make sense? And it's
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because it's not mine. So I'm able to right now
start to identify and what's mine and what other people's is.
But for so long in my life, I've been told
you're too much, you're too emotional, you're this. Hear that like,
because people don't know how to deal with it, and
I've had to come to terms with it and go,
wait a second, I can use this and everything I'm doing.
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So it's kind of sad to me, not kind of,
it's very sad to me, and I'm hoping this is
something that shifts in our culture too, where we're not
telling everyone you have like success looks like this, you
have to do things this way, fit in this box,
because there's absolutely no way that we can all live
in our own authenticity and operate that way. Like we
each individually have to be able to tap into our
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specific players, our different purposes, all of those things, and
I actually think it would make our world work so
much more beautifully.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. I mean, this is
why I love the I mean, I don't have the
statistics on it, but women in business is exploding. And
it's not just because women are feeding the feminist movement
of you know, empowerment to do the things we want
to do. It's because it actually fits with our cycle
to be a female entrepreneur able to have times of
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the month where you're going to go hard with your
extraversion and be engaging and charismatic with people. You know,
when you're in the phase of your ovulation, that's perfect.
And then when there's times closer to your cycle when
you want to be more cocoon and you know, maybe
that's when you're creating content and writing or resting, but
the entrepreneurship, the self employment, it's a better fit for
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women than the nine to five constructs that we play with.
Kate Northrop, I think that's her name. She wrote a
book about this, and then one that I'm playing with
most recently is the title silly, but the content's great.
It's called Fast Like a Girl. And I've played with
intimate and fasting in the past because I want to
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use it as a method to help to support my
spiritual practice. But I've always like lost the game with
it because I just can't seem to do it for
any longer than like a half day. And the whole
principle is that women need to fast at different times
in their cycle so that it's more supportive. And there's
certain times in your cycle when you should not be
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fasting at all, and that's when you're eating and other
times in New York And when I started playing with this,
I'm only in like month three. It's a total game changer, Kelly.
And so you're right, like the way that we get
put into these molds and how to show up. It
works really well when you're in corporate because the way
that corporate wants to produce is it wants mass production,
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so it wants the one size fits all. But the
reality is that when we break it down and go
really individual with it, the one size fits all doesn't work.
This is why for me with the ACAHIC training, I've
never written a book or like an online course to
self study on how to read the ACASHK records because
there's so many little nuances that I do when I
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work with people in the training to help to get
them in to where they want to be. And I
can't tell you how many people have like come to
me and said, you know, I want to do the
t but I don't think I'll be able to read
the records because I've tried doing it on my own
and I can't seem to get in. And I'm just like, well,
you just you haven't found the technique. You're not using
the right technique. So I agree one hundred percent. And
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it creates conflict and confusion because it's a slower process
to figure out what needs to happen on a personalized
way to make it available for people.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, I'm excited that we're getting even having these kind
of conversations because I do think it moves us in
that direction. There's one last thing I wanted to ask you.
And I find this to be such a big part
of any growth process, and I talk about this a
lot with my listeners, of just knowing that going through
this lifetime, you know there's going to be pain, and
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it's not because we did something bad or wrong. It's
just a part of the journey. For me, It's been
a massive part of any sort of evolution. I don't
I won't change without pain. I mean, I don't think
any of us will, right, So do you have any tips,
because I know this is a big part of the
work you do with your clients, But do you have
any tips that you would give my listeners, just of
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how to sit with the discomfort? I think that's also
a big part of yoga that I learn in yoga.
But how do you sit with the discomfort knowing that
that is just a part of the journey leading you
to a greater version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I would say that part of it is our relationship.
How are we relating to it? So if we're relating
to it from the perspective of I need to just
move through this thing or be able to overcome this
particular thing, I think it becomes even harder and more challenging.
So the way that I play with it, and sometimes
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I'll work with people to play with it, is, whatever
the situation is at hand, can we take a half
step back and away from it and zoom out a
bit so that we have other choices available to us.
So the more personal something is, the more narrow focus
we become, and we see it as this or that
rather than an or. Okay, now the moment we can
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zoom out a little bit and play with it from
an and or perspective, Then we start to have choice.
And when we have choice, we relax and we start
to feel a little bit more of a sense of freedom.
But on top of that, we believe our thoughts in
our beliefs to such a degree that they become true
for us, and simply asking the question of is that true?
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You know, the Byron Katy kind of expression, is that true?
I find that really supportive And recently I read a
quote just srot it down yesterday. Forgiveness is the realizing
that what I thought happened didn't. So we have such
a layered perspective of how something went down that oftentimes
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that one viewpoint is the only angle that we'll look
at it from, and the moment that we can just
shift and sit in the other person's seat or some
other angle to look at it from, it starts to
Oftentimes what I find is because it's energy, and energy
is constantly changing. You know this. The moment that you
start to place your attention on something, it changes, whether
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you want it to or not. It changes. If you
want to place your attention onto your heart. The moment
you place your attention onto your heart, cells actually migrate
towards the heart. They start to go there and be like, Ooh,
something's happened in the heart. Let's go see what's going on.
And your breath is going to start to move into
the heart. And you haven't even given direction as to
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what you're trying to do with the heart, But simply
placing your attention on it changes it. It shifts it.
So when you're sitting with something that's uncomfortable or something
that's challenging, giving yourself the opportunity it's not just sitting
with the uncomfortableness of it, but allowing yourself to be
more eye to eye with it and just not doing
anything but watching how it changes. Placing your attention on it.
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Does that mean? Wow?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
That makes total sense.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
That quote really just rocked me because it's similar to
what I was saying in some ways too. If you
have a painful experience, I think we just want to
identify them as good or bad, and it's like this
or that, like you're saying, and when you can look back.
I think this is why we always say, like we're
so things look different in reflection, Like when you're looking back,
the most painful experiences of your life end up being
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really great ultimately probably in most cases.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Because they shift your road, they shift.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
The thing that wasn't working in your life, and you're
able to open up to a whole new path. Or
that's been my experience. So I just love that quote
because it's like, yeah, when you can get to forgiveness,
it's when you go, oh, it wasn't this or that.
There's all these ants ores up in there and it
was for my high.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
As good all of it always is. I believe it
always is, and you know it.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I also like to just hold space for there's a
difference between how is this working towards my unfolding, my becoming,
my expansion, That to me is different language than everything
has a silver line.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Oh I agree, Yes, I really believe that, like, yes.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
There's some shit things that happen and it just sucks.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yes, and that's important to feel that.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yes. Yeah. And so when we default to the like,
oh well every you know, everything has a has a
meaning and a p it just takes the energy away
of like what actually took place in that situation. But
when we can start to exactly what you're saying, when
we can start to lean it into Okay, how is
this working for me? And and for me this is
like five steps after one.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I can't ever see this when I'm in it because
I need to feel the feeling and I need to
feel the pain and the sadness and the anger and
hatred or whatever it is. I have to go through
all the feelings before I can even reflect on it.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. So space distance actually
asking others for their perception, like what's your opinion? What
do you think happened? Yeah? Is there an angle that
I'm not seeing? Is there a blind spot that I
don't have here? Like, don't underestimate the power of someone
else being the eyes and the voice of God for
you in that moment. It doesn't always have to go
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up into the ethers. It can be directly across from
you at any moment.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I love that well, Heather.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
If listeners are interested in working with you or just
falling along with the kind of work that you do,
where would they find you.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Easiest way to get in touch with me is just
to go to my website. It's my name Heather ivany
I v A n Y dot com and there's everything
available to you there. So if you just want more
experience of me with no strings attached, there's lots of
free options there. I have programs and retreats. I have
a retreat coming up this November in Mexico. So if
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people are just looking for a real experience of consciousness,
not just a conversation of it, that's what my retreats
are for. So yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
All I'll put that and also your social media in
case anyone wants to follow along, and they're in the
description of this podcast. Thank you so much for this
conversation and just for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Thanks for having me Kelly. It was a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Thank you guys for listening