August 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Is Mercury retrograde really ruining your life—or is it just misunderstood? In this episode, Kelly and Chip break down what Mercury retrograde actually is, why it gets such a bad rap, and how to work with it instead of freaking out every time your texts don’t go through. From tech glitches to mental rewinds, they explore the true purpose behind the chaos and how to use this time for reflection, clarity, and slowing down.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It looks so pretty. And this news filter, it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Filter, it's lighting. I guess I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Portrait mode. We figured out how to do basically portrait
mode on zoom, and I really do feel like it
makes us look younger.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, hi hih, she's been over here getting younger this week.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, something like that. Well, we were out last week.
We had a lot going on, and actually you were
in Alaska, which is so random because we just had
another friend go to Alaska. I'm just so curious. Why
is Alaska entering the chat of our lives so much recently.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well maybe it just took me fifty years to get there.
I don't know. I went with my client l She
was playing a festival and it was one of those
bucket list things where I was like, you know, I
felt like I needed to be there. Plus, she isn't
touring much this year, so she's running on a skeletal crew.
So even having an extra set of hands and another
(00:58):
body there to help make sure that the show actually
went on was important. It was our first show back,
so I felt like it was important to be there.
But it was also like the travel was crazy. We
got there late at night. We were supposed to get
there like at one o'clock in the morning to our hotel.
We were in Home Or Alaska, which means we flew
into Anchorage and then had to drive four hours. But
(01:21):
we had delays and we didn't get to our hotel
until three o'clock in the morning, which was six o'clock
on our bodies, and then we had the next day
was off but I'll tell you what happened that day,
and then the show was the following day, and then
we drove back to Anchorage the next day and got
on a plane and came home. So it was like
I didn't get to see Alaska, but like I saw Alaska,
(01:43):
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
From all driving and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You mean, yes, and well, and you know, I expected
it to be sunlight the whole time. The first night
we got there was raining, so there was more cloud
cover than normal at night, so it was pretty dark,
but like it doesn't get dark until after midnight. It's
very weird. So the day that we were off, a
fans had slid into Elle's DMS like years ago, just
(02:09):
being like I live in Home or Alaska. You know,
you're my favorite. I don't know if I'll ever get
to see you because I'm way up here. Blah blah blah.
And then Elle played the state Fair a couple of
years ago in Anchorage and there were wildfires happening. And
I know this because I like read through the history
of their chat and there were wildfires and it separated
(02:30):
Homer and Anchorage. So she was like, I'm just too
worried that, like, I'll get stuck on the wrong side
of the fire and not be able to get home,
So I'm not gonna be able to see you in Anchorage.
But the girl reached out when when she knew that
Elle was coming this time and said, you know, I
would love to take you fishing on my friend's boat.
And all agreed to it. Oh my gosh, and so
(02:50):
Elle she can only bring four people total, so it
was me, Elle and two of her bandmates. And on
the way there, her drummer was like, what kind of
boat is this? And I was like, I don't know,
and we were dying because they're like, what if it's
a rowboat, you know, like something really janking? No information.
She just was like but she, I mean, she has
a pretty good gut intuition about people. So and we
(03:12):
got We ended up going salmon fishing that afternoon, and
we were like, we'll do it for a couple of
hours and we'll come back and we'll have dinner, and
you know, blah blah blah. Well we finished at ten
o'clock at night because we had no idea how late
it was because the sun's still up.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was so much fun. In fact, I'm wearing my
sweatshirt today. I bought it at a store called it
says salmon slut, but I wore it on the boat
and it's got salmon blood on it. I know. Well,
here's the funny part is I actually didn't catch any
fish because there were only so many fishing poles, and
(03:50):
so I said, all we told the people that are
like super excited to catch the fish or over it
and then I'll do it. But this big commercial ship
came in and like scooped up all the fish where
we were fish, and I literally did not see a
fish after that. But it was it was a way
of fishing that I've never done. It's called snagging, and
you don't catch the fish in the mouth. You basically
(04:11):
throw out this like lure that's around silver ball that's
got three hooks on it, and you you fling it
and you let it drop for a minute, and then
you snag it and reel it in, snag it and
reel it in, and you end up snagging the fish
by its side and the hook just gets in it
and you just pull it in.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, why is that better?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I don't know that it is, but it's just I mean,
it's definitely not for the fish. And then after the
first fish was caught, it was sitting in a bin
in the back of the boat. And I'm used to,
like when I grew up fishing, we would just like
throw them in a cooler and they would stop breathing
at some point, and I go, so, where do where
does the fish move next? And like the time, I
wish I could do every voice like perfectly, but it
(04:55):
was like I asked this girl she's like holding the fish,
go well, so where does the fish go next? And
she just go and like snaps the fish and throws
it in this thing and the el's drummer goes to heaven.
It was just like so perfectly tied. It like basically
rips its gills out. Yeah, they had fingers in both
(05:16):
sides of the gills, and she just went and like
and then the fish goes slap into the thing, and
I was just like, oh my god, this is so savage.
The other thing that they do is I'll just hit
them with like a billy club to kill them, and
we never did that. We just kind of I don't know,
it's probably actually more humane club. It was just like
a little bat like, you know, like, yeah, that's so,
(05:38):
that's why I happened fish blood on me because like
people were like hidden fish. I mean, once they started,
we caught forty pounds of fish.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Have you considered washing this sweatshirt or is that no?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It makes me feel really like Alaskan. I know, I've
got blood on my jeans too. I will wash those.
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Wow. Well, I mean, I'm sure it made that fans
day that you guys went out there with.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh, I mean we ended up like best friends with all.
I mean, it was her. Her friends were all really cool.
The guy on the boat was amazing, and it really
made the like exhaustion because the exhaustion hadn't fully set
in yet, but we knew it was coming. It made
it a hundred percent worth it. And then they all
came to the festival the next day, and it was
just a blast, Like it made us feel like we
(06:26):
were actually part of the community.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I could see that, and it's.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That was the thing that I loved the most. But
I mean, obviously the landscape is unbelievable. It's like you're
an avatar, you know. But it feels like they're a
little bit like lost in time too. Like everything feels
like I felt like people looked like or their fashion
sense was similar to like when I was in college.
(06:50):
You know, It's very hippy dippy.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And like it's also just so removed from everywhere else. Yeah,
doing their own thing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
They're doing their own thing, and every one was so
lovely and like it was just sexuality and gender and
skin color. Like it was everyone was just at this
festival together and it was like super chill and like
there weren't like real fences. It was like anyone could
have just rushed backstage if they wanted to. But like
(07:18):
people were behaving and like there were families there and
it was I don't know, it was awesome. It was
like what my soul needed. So the exhaustion was ended
up very worth it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But yeah, wow, well, our little Alaskan adventurer over here.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I would one hundred percent go back to Homer.
I don't know that I need to like go all
over Alaska.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah wow, just ripe with salmon blood all over.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I don't even know how to follow this, Like what
am I about to tell you? Guys? It's even remotely
that interesting? No pressure, I'm like, what did I even
do last week?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I did have a really nice getaway with my man.
We did a little like it wasn't a staycation because
we drove an hour and a half, but there's this
place called north Star Nature Suits, like an hour and
a half outside of Nashville, and they had.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Look, it's really pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's so pretty. Yeah, it's like it's a luxury cabin
is what they call it. But it's essentially like you're
up in the mountains, but you have a really nice
hotel room, like a five star hotel room. Was you know,
kind of like it's just like what was it called again,
north Star Nature Suites. Okay, So yeah, we had a
(08:29):
really nice time and then we drew a drive like
there was a little town called Sparta, Tennessee that was
like twenty minutes from where we were staying, so you
could like go hike waterfalls and things like that. That
part of Tennessee is just so pretty, you know, like
close to Chattanooga and all of that, you really kind
of forget how beautiful it is and hilly and mountainy
(08:49):
and all that stuff because Nashville is such a city
that but it's like you can go about thirty to
forty five minutes outside of Nashville and see the most
beautiful landscapes like that, And so we had a really
nice time. Sparta was so cute. There's actually one of
the best pizza places. And I don't even eat pizza
because of no gluten Nodta you can have exactly which
(09:09):
I missed, but they had a really nice gluten free crust.
But it was like one of the most amazing pizza
places that my boyfriend ever said. He went and he
is such a pizza snob, like he worked at a
pizza place in Italy for a while, so he really
like knows authentic pizza, you know, And he was like,
I don't know how this is possible, but Sparta Tennessee
(09:31):
is bringing it with the pizza. But the owners, the
owners of that restaurant were from Italy, so it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, anyway, and then we went to there's this like
Mennonite woman who has this little bakery across from her
house where she from Thursday to Saturday puts out like
she bakes all week, puts out homemade cinnamon rolls, homemade bread, cookies, cakes, pies,
all this stuff. You go in and there's just this
(09:58):
open like container the cash, and you just leave the
cash that it says on top of it. And I
was talking to a man that lives there, and I
was like, how does she know people aren't gonna steal?
And all of a sudden he says that she says,
if they do, they must need it more than me,
and that's not really between that's between them and God,
you know, like whatever, So she just leaves it open.
(10:18):
There's just cash. It was like a lot of cash too.
I was like, you would never in a big city
see this, But we went back twice because it was
just so lovely and I love, you know, things made
from the farm. So it was obviously that was the
sugar things made from the farm, but it was made
you know, all the icing on the cinnamon rolls was
(10:39):
made from milk from their cows and just all that
kind of stuff like I love I love a farm life.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Was she not even in this shop at all?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh nobody, nobody was man in it. It was wild. Wow,
you just like leave your money. We calculated ourselves and
then left the cash.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, you're like this cinnamon role only looks worth a dollar.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
She would on the container, like the cinnamon rolls. She
would say like eight dollars or whatever, like for the
full thing. So anyway, wid Yeah, it was a really
nice weekend though. So yeah, we had a little bit
of travel, both of us last week.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I hope yours. I hope yours was more RESTful than mine.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because I was definitely RESTful by the.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Time it caught up to me. It was actually on Monday,
because I got we landed at like five thirty am
on Sunday, and I thought, that's great, like I'll be
able to like sleep most of the day into a
reset and blah blah blah. But it wasn't really until
Monday that the true exhaustion hit. And I had a
couple of meetings where I was like, I couldn't say
I was brain dead.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that's the worst a brain.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Dad. I'm just like I often say that I don't
feel like I'm fifty years old, like because I'm just
not allowing myself to do that. But it's moments like
that where I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm getting older.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Like I did, yourself would have done fine.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh my god, I would have been fine.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Even from small trips. Right now, I just yeah, it
just takes it out of you a little bit more.
But I love to travel, so we'll keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it's worth doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Anyway. We are back this week and we're going to
discuss astrology, which if you guys listen on Wednesday, Marv
did a full rundown of August astrology. We're in Leo's season,
but there's a lot going on. I feel like I
say that every month just because the astrology has been
astrology ing for quite some time now. I mean, but
(12:32):
it's going to be it's going to continue being like that.
Like we're just in a big transition period and probably
have been since starting in about twenty eighteen, but we
think we started to really feel it in twenty twenty.
So anyway, all of this is the norm I think
for most of us now but there's always things to
work with the astrology, which is why I have marv on.
(12:54):
He tells us kind of the energies of the month,
and then also like, here's what might be coming up
for you, or if you notice some of these themes, like,
here's how to work with it. Here's some questions to
ask yourself. That's what astrology is for. It's to help
us reflect and really get to know ourselves on a
deeper level, and then to work with the energy. Because
whether you believe in astrology or don't, like it is happening,
(13:16):
there's all sorts of energy happening all the time, and see,
you might as well learn to work with it. That's
how I feel. It's like it's going to happen. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's interesting you saying that. It reminded me of when
I went to therapy when I was younger in New York.
I didn't really want to do the work myself. I
just wanted to go talk and have him be like, well,
this is what's.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Wrong, and then fix it for you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And fix it for me. And I kept being like, well,
what's my diagnosis, because like that's not really how this works.
And it's funny because I feel like that's probably how
a lot of people approach astrology, at least that's how
like when you were talking, it's like, wait a minute,
I'm thinking of astrology like therapy, where it's like you're
supposed to read a thing and be like, oh, that's
(13:58):
why and then just move on and versus it being
more of a guide all.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
This stuff we talk about on this podcast. The reason
I'm bringing it to conversation is because it is a
way for you to like, there're different tools for you
to do the work of your life, I guess, is
how I would say it. And so like I think
we're all here for a specific purpose, on a specific journey,
(14:25):
and there's all these different road maps, and astrology is
the one that I find to be very very very
helpful in kind of showing me like the path or
the why this happened at a certain part of my life,
or the things that were coming up at that time,
why I was facing those challenges even and it always
(14:45):
has made so much sense, and so now I can
look at it and know kind of more about my
own personal chart, but also like on a bigger scale,
like what's happening universally or whatever. And how that's going
to be impacting me directly. And it's not like an
astrologer sometimes they can make predictions of well it might
be themes of this, but nobody should really ever be
(15:08):
telling you like this exact thing is going to happen
on this date at this time and whatever you know,
like that isn't what I believe anyway. Even with working
with psychics and stuff like, I find it to be
helpful in getting in touch with my own intuition more
than anything. And so all that is to say, it's like, yeah,
if there's this tool here, or there's like you know,
human design or gene keys or all the different things
(15:31):
we talk about, why am I just going to turn
my back on it? Versus like that? It just reminds
me of like a couple driving around and the woman
being like, well, we have this roadmap or something, and
the man's like, oh, I don't need a map, you know,
like old school things you would see and it's like that.
And this isn't to say men or women. It's just like,
in general, why would you turn your back on the map.
I don't get it, Like, I'm like, give me the map,
(15:53):
because this shit's confusing.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, there's also enough that you have to figure out
for yourself that if you can make some parts of
your life easier than you stamn map.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, and I think also it's just yeah, like it
makes it easier. But also for me it helps a
lot with just trying not to control, like just turning
things over and knowing that you know it's kind of
already all mapped out and you want to if you
want to show up as the best version of yourself,
like work on trying to get to that place of
facing your shit or the things that you're trying to
(16:26):
bury or run away from, like why they're coming up,
Like to learn how to work with them and deal
with them versus just keep struggling through life not paying
attention or trying to like repress or push things down
like it always ends up coming out anyway. So like
instead of trying to control and manage and manipulating all
the things, just like learn to work with it. Right,
(16:47):
I don't know, right, that's my mentality. But I was
telling you about the convers station with Marv and we
are currently in a Mercury retrograde, and you were like,
I just still don't really get what it means, and
(17:07):
you said you have a lot of questions, but you
also said you don't get what it means. But you
also use mercury retrograde as an excuse, which I think
is such a big, like common thing in our culture.
So did you want to tell the people a little
bit about what you were saying to.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, I mean, I've definitely like and I think it's
just because it's a learned behavior, you know, like, oh,
it must be a mercury retrograde. But it's one of
those things that has become like that term has come
to mean like if something can go wrong, it will
kind of and to be honest, like I don't know
shit about like when it happens, how long it happens,
(17:45):
what are the signs that it's happening, Like what can
you do to protect yourself? And I guess just in
the most basic and I could probably google this stuff,
but you know, we're having a conversation, so that wouldn't
be a very fun podcast. But like you know, at
the most basic level, like what does it mean, Like
is it moving backwards or does it just appear to
be moving backwards? Is it even about its movements? Like, oh,
(18:09):
I guess it's the first time in my life that
I've like actually asked, I've yeah, like, what is mercury
retrograde outside of it being this period of when everything
goes wrong?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Well, obviously mercury is a planet y thing to start,
So they say retrograde periods are when things start moving backwards.
It's really not moving backwards. It's like an optical illusion.
I think it's slowed. The planet actually slows down, but
from Earth looking up at the planet, it would appear
that it's moving backwards right now, even though it's not.
(18:41):
I don't exactly know how long retrogrades last. That would
be something to google. But when they come up, like
if unless you live under a rock, you're going to
see something on social media nowadays with the way it goes,
or you can start working with an astrologer or learning
how to read your own chart or reading astrolog charts
in general, and you'll see when it's going to go retrograde.
(19:03):
But what's interesting is like it does get so demonized
in pop culture, and I think that's because often during
retrograde periods, specifically mercury retrograde, we do see a lot
of like technological issues or things slowing down. They say
not to sign like big contracts because you might not
(19:23):
be seeing clearly during this time. So I think a
lot of people go, oh god, this isn't working. It
must be mercury retrograde, and that is true. Like I've
actually had a lot of tech issues even with this podcast.
Like that was one of the reasons last week that
we ended up kind of taking a step back for
a week because I was having some technical difficulties and
(19:45):
it was just I was like, of course I should
have known, like this is an amplified mercury retrograde as
well this time, because there's so many other energies happening
at the same time, and it's just things like that.
So they always say, like, you know, make sure you
back up your work or make sure you like an
extra copy, and like that was true for me. I
recorded a whole podcast that you guys will hear next week,
(20:06):
which was such a good conversation, and I couldn't get
it to download, and I was freaking out, you know,
because I'm like, oh my god, I just lost this
whole conversation that I love so much. But that's typical
during mercury retrograde and So it's more about for me
almost preparing mentally, like that kind of stuff is going
to happen. What do I need to do to kind
of dot all my eyes and cross on my te's
(20:27):
before that happens, and then when it gets here, trying
not to freak out and just take the next right
step of like figuring it out, because ultimately, even though
mercury retrograde gets so demonized as all of those things,
what it is here to do is asking us to
slow down into review. So like the other thing you'll
always hear is that xes come back during mercury retrograde,
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and they do. Like I actually had an ex comeback
that keeps coming back recently, and he came out. He
came back again this retrograde. He's come back the last
three retrograde. So I finally had to block him. But
it was like just this really interesting thing to me
because it always comes back. And so now when it
happens like all like I looked at the text and
(21:12):
I was like, what have I not closed out here?
Like what am I not doing? And for me, I
decided it was like I haven't blocked him yet, So
I was still letting my energy be accessible in a
way that like I didn't feel like was appropriate for
this situation anymore. It didn't make me feel good, and
so that was another block. And sometimes I think that's
what's happening, is like the universe is testing you a
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little bit to be like, Okay, we're gonna put this
right in front of you. You sure, like you sure
you're gonna still make this decision? Are you sure? It's
like almost like a testing lesson, you know what I mean,
Like did you really learn that lesson? Are you gonna
like stick to your guns? Are you gonna hold your boundaries?
Are you gonna still take care of yourself even though
there's this other thing coming up that's like dangling a
(21:57):
you know, a carrot right in front of you, whether
that's an ex a, a narrative or whatever it is
old friendship, like all of these things are very typical
to come back during mercury retrograde. But it's not to
like harm you. It's to ask you to review, like
did you is there anything else you need from this?
Or are you really done? Because when you're done, they
(22:19):
say like things go away, like they don't keep showing
their face or coming back to you or presenting to
you if there's closure, full closure, and you've learned a
lesson and it's time to move on, right. Have you
ever experienced anything like that?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I mean, I guess there have been breakups that are
that way, you know, like I can't think of any
other like clear examples.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But have you noticed any excess coming back during retrogrades ever?
Or well?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I never really know when retrogrades are. So what is
what is the date range of this one? Do you know? Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, I'm like, why I'm on?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean, you're like google, don't? Yeah, well, I mean
I think for the listeners, maybe I'll google it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I think it's over August. I want to say night,
it's over this weekend. We also have a full moon
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
When you say over, does it mean how long does
it last?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I don't know, a couple of weeks usually, Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wait, I'm googling. This is the Old Farmer's Almanac answer
for win is mercury in retrograde this year? And they
see if I can find you.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, the happens multiple times July.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Seventeenth through August tenth. So we're in it. We're like
squarely in it. So we've got three more days. Yeah,
I'm trying to think if any exes have presented themselves. Yes,
I mean not an X, but like I don't know
if well, I don't know if we talked about him
on here. But when I went to Montana, I went
on a date with this guy who was ended up
(23:50):
being very weird. I got a text from him last
week maybe that said is it weird that I miss you?
And I just I mean, I literally I've not responded
to a text from this guy since I got home
from Montana, And I wanted to be like, yes, it's
weird that you missed me. You met me one time
for maybe four you're a weirdo about it. Yeah, so
(24:12):
that I mean, that's.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Okay, good to write back.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But that's the thing, though, You're being almost baited because
the question I got it was is it weird that
I still text you? And it's like, yeah, well, when
I haven't responded the last three times you've texted me,
I would say yeah, yeah, and after I told you
I didn't want to talk ever again, like yeah, it
is weird. But I realized I'm like, oh, this is
very typical when someone's trying to get you to answer,
(24:42):
you know, and so I was like, not only am
I not going to answer now, you've violated my boundaries
too many times and you're getting plucked.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You're getting planed. Yeah, because I don't need this energy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, I just don't even want it. It makes me
angry when it comes up because I'm like, you are
literally walking all over everything I said, and it's so
disrespectful to me my current relationship, Like I just don't
want to be treated like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, and you're right, like by giving it any sort
of air, I mean, I guess this could be considered
talking about it, but like responding to them in any
way is what they want. Like even if you write
back something shitty like go fuck yourself, like they want.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
They get off on that kind of engagement period. I
think it's the hardest lesson, right. It's like when someone's
treating you bad to not engage at all. But it's
like when you start to realize certain personality types get
off on even negative attention, you're like, I can't whatever.
So hopefully yeah, that none of our people listen to
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I mean, well it's funny too, because it's like it's
so not in my nature just to ignore people. I
don't do it either, and so not responding to him,
I mean, maybe I should block him because that haunts me,
you know, like the fact that I haven't responded, I
feel like an.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Asshole, and You'll get in your head about it, and.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'll get in my head and like I really kind
of want to respond. I mean, it's like at the
point now where I more want to respond out of
the ridiculousness of Like I mean, it's like there was
one day he sent me like five songs, like you know,
it was like his version of a mixtape because he
was thinking of me, Like it's weird, but yeah, I
mean if that happened within Mercury retrograde.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But the thing is, you're acting as if this is
what I always have to tell myself because how you were,
Like I just almost want to respond because of the ridiculousness,
and like my biggest thing is always to I want
to explain, Hey, this is fucking ridiculous, or this is yes,
I like what I said, I haven't responded to you
in these amount of times I said this, like, yes,
it's weird, but like then that's acting. I can't remember
(26:41):
what the saying is. It's something like, oh, you can't
reason with crazy. So it's like I would be sitting
here trying to convince a person who is clearly trying
to provoke me in some way, shape or form or
get some sort of response, trying to convince them why
their behavior is crazy. That's not going to go. Well.
All that does is just bring me into that.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, they've also answered, like your example, in my example,
they both answered their their rhetorical questions like is it weird, Yeah,
it's fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
If you have to ask if it's weird, it's probably weird.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
One hundre.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It just feels like an old game, right Like in
my twenties, I would have been like, oh, they're still
thinking of me, you know, me and my ego would
have gotten like a little hit from it or something.
And now I'm just like, h is that a boundary?
You're not respecting?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It a block? Well, for those of you who are wondering,
it does so. It ends August tenth. It happens three
times a year, and the third one for twenty five
is November nine through twenty nine, which means it will
be in retrograde when I turn fifty for real.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh yeah, I mean that's not necessarily bad though.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I mean it's if there's ever a time to
slow down and reflect, it's yeah, when you're turning half
a century year old.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's also kind of the end of the year, so totally. Yeah,
it's it's really like it's like an inner deep dive,
and so I think a lot of stuff that might happen.
And I mean I talked about this a little bit
with Marv, like I got triggered into something from another
relationship with my current boyfriend. Not so the other relationship
wasn't the person that texted me whatever it was, Oh,
(28:17):
got all these exes coming back, But I got triggered
to this old situation and I reacted to my current
boyfriend from that trigger. And I was saying to Marv,
I'm like, oh, this is I can't believe this came up.
But the more he talked about the astrology of this month,
I was like, but of course it came up, you know.
So like that's what the retrogrades are for, is like
if you notice something in you are trying to pay
(28:41):
more attention to these things. Like when I was so angry.
It feels real, right Like in my current relationship, that
situation felt real. And then when I actually started saying
stuff out loud, I immediately was like, this has nothing
to do with him, This isn't about him, this is
so old. And so then it's a time for me
to go internal and ask myself why, like what need
(29:02):
isn't getting met or what got me triggered into that place,
and then just talking about it with my current partner
because he's very open like that, but like you know,
we were able to have a productive conversation. But then
also like asking myself like what do I need, you know,
and how do I need to resolve this within myself
because I clearly haven't fully resolved it or wouldn't be
coming up now. So it's like that kind of stuff.
(29:24):
It's not necessarily just like murcury retrograde's here to fuck
with you. It's actually just asking us to kind of
slow down and be conscious, you know, versus just running
through life mindlessly.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Well, yeah, it's like to pay attention to the things
that are on autopilot normally.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Made exactly and that's why there's like an ex is
gonna get pinged to text you, because for both of y'all,
stuff is probably coming up, and you're doing the old
thing to alleviate that, right instead of like, hey, I
used to suck at boundaries. This is me talking about me.
I used to sucking boundaries. I just didn't have them.
(30:02):
So people from my past feel very comfortable to enter
into any part of my life, right yeah, And when
me setting boundaries, they're like, wait, what what is she doing?
Like this doesn't make sense. Oh, surely I can get
her to like walk. You know. I used to just
not be able to hold shit either, even if I
would say it. So he's just trying that because that's
what used to work in the past, and I'm like, yo,
(30:24):
I'm different now, that's not gonna work anymore. But it's
me having to really like stick with that because the
tests keep happening and I'm like, wow, oh, it would
be easy for me to self abandon and just be
like answer, yes it's weird or whatever like engage, but
then that's still giving it energy.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like we said, yeah, yeah, I haven't gotten to the
block point yet with the person in Montana, but maybe
I'll do that the next time he responds, it's like.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, I mean, this was the third or fourth time
since I've set a boundary, so it was like, okay,
and I remember saying last time, if he does it again,
I'm texting. I mean, I'm blocking mine.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Is just funny because like I literally am a strange
church of this person, you know what I mean, Like
at least this was a boyfriend, right, So yeah, that's
a good example of a retrograde thing happening.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So it's not a curse, No, it's definitely it's.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Actually kind of a blessing.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well if you work with it. We're circling back to
the beginning of this conversation and what astrology can help
you learn is like, instead of being the person that's
the online going, oh, it's mark your retrograde even though
like like one of my keys hasn't been working randomly,
it's like a tech thing and I'm so frustrated about it.
And I was like, oh, smirky, retrograde's rocking me. But
(31:49):
it is, yeah, but it's making me slow down and
I'm having to Like. The interesting thing is is, so
remember when we first got on this call, I told
you we're switching platforms for and I probably wouldn't have
made that jump, which I've needed to make if I
didn't have that thing go wrong with the interview last week.
(32:10):
So does that make sense? So it's like it brings
something that needs to change to the surface to then
invite you to make the changes. And that that was
like something I've been saying I need to do for
six months at least. It's tedious and time consuming, you know.
And now I'm like, Okay, well, I will never want
to feel like how I just felt when that didn't
when I thought I had lost that interview. So I'm
(32:31):
going to try a new platform and I'll spend time
this week in setting that up. So it served its purpose, right.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's funny we actually yesterday our IT department migrated to
like a new version of Outlook.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Or something like really interesting timing to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm like, now that we're having this conversation, I'm like, why, why,
why was it? Why did we do that? And the
funny thing is is like our IT guy, James is amazing,
and he sent out like very detailed emails and stuff,
and of I had to print them out because I'm
a boomer, and I was like, I was like, well,
what if I can't access my email and then I
(33:07):
don't know what to do. But like so much of
it is on us to like it's not like they're
just like, hey, this is happening in the back end.
They're like, you have to remove it from your computer.
You got to remove things from your phone. So it's
like yesterday during work and they're like, your email should
work normal, but these are some of the troubleshooting things,
and yesterday was very wonky for me, and I noticed
(33:28):
that there were things that weren't in same you know,
it'd be in my calendar on my phone but not
on my computer, a vice versa. And I think it's
all worked itself out, but like during this conversation, I'm like,
why the fuck would they have done that?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, you think your it guys following astrology, probably not,
but he should, I mean he should. Yeah. So, like
there's even things about like timing up launches and stuff
and trying not to do anything big during a retrograde
because it doesn't mean like if you've been planning it
for a long time and it's already booked to happen,
it doesn't mean you should switch it. It's just something
(34:03):
to be aware of because if you launch during a retrograde,
you may have to circle back to like really, let's
say you launch and you're like, here's our mission statement. Well,
something may come up in a couple months when Mercury's
station direct that makes you have to review that or
the next Merkur retrograde, Like you might need to go
back and review or relaunch your mission statement or something
(34:26):
if you do it during retrograde, is what they say. Yeah,
always true. I mean it's just like especially if you've
been preparing, like I said, for a long time. That's
not always the case, but it could happen that way.
And then there's like these shadow periods, so like the
before and after the actual dates. They say that the
energy can still linger a little bit, like it takes
a little bit sad.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Out it like phases in and out. What's funny because
like I'm like going crossside, just like thinking about all
the fucking work I have to do it. Like, but
that's the whole point is that we should be working
for oursel.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You know, like you're like, well, when it comes back around,
you might need to readdress and it's I guess you know.
Astrology is one of those things that's there if we
want it and we're working on ourselves. It's not something
that like everyone has to be paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's just you don't have you don't have to do
any of this stuff. It's just how do you want
to walk through your life? And like for me, it
just makes life left difficult because.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm like Ye's explanation in.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
That explanation, and then also, like we're talking about with
this marketing retrograde stuff, you learn how to work with
different energies. So like if during a retrograde, I'm feeling
more tired than normal, I'm not going to push myself
to go do that Barry's class like I'll like reevaluate
I might go for a walk instead, or like you know,
really try to pay attention to what the energy is doing.
(35:51):
Like if I'm feeling like that, there's a reason. So
learning just the ways that maybe you specifically respond or
what it can look like in your life, like that's
just really helpful because I think we just live in
such a culture of control enforcing and we don't necessarily
like to pay attention. It's like we want to move
(36:12):
unconsciously and just everything to be easy, and that's not realistic, right,
so it's like walk or be dragged kind of.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I don't know right right now that it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, do you have any other mercury retrograde questions? Or
did I help at all?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I mean I think I think it, Like that was
really insightful, Thank you, And I guess I'll just need
to like do a little bit more digging to see
specifically how it affects me and my sign. But we
don't need to go to that with everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, And I think you had asked me like, is
there a sign and impacts most But really, I mean
this is helpful. If you guys haven't listened to mar yet,
maybe to go listen back to what he's saying, because
this marcury retrograde is in Leo, so it's going to
show its face with Leo energy a lot more and
then probably Leo's and other fire signs will feel the
(37:04):
impact of it more like or they could. You also
brought up you were like, well, I bet that drives
a virgo crazy. It's like, how do you know about Virgo?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I just know that they're so kind of type.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
A type A meticulous. Yeah, very much so. So, But
it's interesting because Virgo is ruled by mercury, So Virgo
I mean for mercury going retrograde. Yeah, I'm sure it
does drive a Virgo crazy because they're like, why is
my structure not structuring? Like why is my to do
list not easy to check off? And all that stuff.
(37:36):
But I don't know that it's necessary. I mean for them,
it's probably even more important to try to pause and
like go with the flow, let things go, and not
be so type A or like perfectionistic. Marv talked a
lot about that right on the Wednesday podcast. So, but
it impacts everybody. I mean it's it's going to impact
(37:56):
because we all have all the energies, we have all
signs in our chart. It's just you might have more planets.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And does it affect this will be my last question
and you may not know the answer, but does it
affect Like if it's happening during Leo, now, does it
affect them more?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
So? What really, if you were wanting to work with
this energy, so you would go take your chart, look
at where you have Leo in your chart? So whatever
house So like Leo for me is my fourth house.
That's a lot of family, that's a home. Life. That's
I can't remember even the other things, but look up
what that house is. You can google it and get
(38:35):
on CHATBT. I always say this to people, unless you
know a little bit about astrology, be careful with chat
or any sort of AI resource because it's not always accurate.
And like, I can call it out when it's not
accurate because I recognize it. But if I didn't know
what I know about astrology, I might just blindly take
that information. And you know, right, So maybe google even
(38:58):
before you chat, but find out what house it's in,
and then those are probably the themes that will come
up for you, like an actuality. Knowing that the argument
I got in with my boyfriend it was all about
home and chores and like home life, and that's my
house that Leo's in, So that's what it's gonna impact.
(39:19):
So wherever Leo is in your chart, I'm trying to
think of what yours is Scorpio rising. I would have
to look, I can't do it in my brain.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
It's I don't know how y'all do any of the shit.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
To be honest, you just learned a time. Yeah. Anyway, Well,
if you guys want to know more about this, month's astrology.
You can go listen to Wednesday's podcast with master astrologer
Marvin Wilkerson that is up, and then you can always
hit me and chip up. You can email us at
the Edge at velvetsedge dot com. I'm on Instagram at
(39:51):
Velvet's Edge Chip.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I'm at chip doors. It's Chip d R scch.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Did you just misspell your last name?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
No, I like this. There was like a weird pause.
D R d R d Y now d O R
s c H.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And also we are launching our Velvet Edge podcast Instagram
this month, so make sure to follow along. We're gonna
have lots of like journal prompts, different clips for you guys,
and just also resources in general, Like it's going to
be way more streamlined having that specific podcast. So that's
at Velvet Edge podcast on Instagram. We'll have that up
and running asap as soon as the market retrogrades over.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
In fact, we're launching shit now.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I'm not no I know too much, but anyway, as always,
thank you guys so much for listening, listening, and as
you walk into this weekend and you're living on the edge,
I hope you always remember too.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
A casual wo
It looks so pretty. And this news filter, it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Filter, it's lighting. I guess I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Portrait mode. We figured out how to do basically portrait
mode on zoom, and I really do feel like it
makes us look younger.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, hi hih, she's been over here getting younger this week.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, something like that. Well, we were out last week.
We had a lot going on, and actually you were
in Alaska, which is so random because we just had
another friend go to Alaska. I'm just so curious. Why
is Alaska entering the chat of our lives so much recently.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well maybe it just took me fifty years to get there.
I don't know. I went with my client l She
was playing a festival and it was one of those
bucket list things where I was like, you know, I
felt like I needed to be there. Plus, she isn't
touring much this year, so she's running on a skeletal crew.
So even having an extra set of hands and another
(00:58):
body there to help make sure that the show actually
went on was important. It was our first show back,
so I felt like it was important to be there.
But it was also like the travel was crazy. We
got there late at night. We were supposed to get
there like at one o'clock in the morning to our hotel.
We were in Home Or Alaska, which means we flew
into Anchorage and then had to drive four hours. But
(01:21):
we had delays and we didn't get to our hotel
until three o'clock in the morning, which was six o'clock
on our bodies, and then we had the next day
was off but I'll tell you what happened that day,
and then the show was the following day, and then
we drove back to Anchorage the next day and got
on a plane and came home. So it was like
I didn't get to see Alaska, but like I saw Alaska,
(01:43):
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
From all driving and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You mean, yes, and well, and you know, I expected
it to be sunlight the whole time. The first night
we got there was raining, so there was more cloud
cover than normal at night, so it was pretty dark,
but like it doesn't get dark until after midnight. It's
very weird. So the day that we were off, a
fans had slid into Elle's DMS like years ago, just
(02:09):
being like I live in Home or Alaska. You know,
you're my favorite. I don't know if I'll ever get
to see you because I'm way up here. Blah blah blah.
And then Elle played the state Fair a couple of
years ago in Anchorage and there were wildfires happening. And
I know this because I like read through the history
of their chat and there were wildfires and it separated
(02:30):
Homer and Anchorage. So she was like, I'm just too
worried that, like, I'll get stuck on the wrong side
of the fire and not be able to get home,
So I'm not gonna be able to see you in Anchorage.
But the girl reached out when when she knew that
Elle was coming this time and said, you know, I
would love to take you fishing on my friend's boat.
And all agreed to it. Oh my gosh, and so
(02:50):
Elle she can only bring four people total, so it
was me, Elle and two of her bandmates. And on
the way there, her drummer was like, what kind of
boat is this? And I was like, I don't know,
and we were dying because they're like, what if it's
a rowboat, you know, like something really janking? No information.
She just was like but she, I mean, she has
a pretty good gut intuition about people. So and we
(03:12):
got We ended up going salmon fishing that afternoon, and
we were like, we'll do it for a couple of
hours and we'll come back and we'll have dinner, and
you know, blah blah blah. Well we finished at ten
o'clock at night because we had no idea how late
it was because the sun's still up.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was so much fun. In fact, I'm wearing my
sweatshirt today. I bought it at a store called it
says salmon slut, but I wore it on the boat
and it's got salmon blood on it. I know. Well,
here's the funny part is I actually didn't catch any
fish because there were only so many fishing poles, and
(03:50):
so I said, all we told the people that are
like super excited to catch the fish or over it
and then I'll do it. But this big commercial ship
came in and like scooped up all the fish where
we were fish, and I literally did not see a
fish after that. But it was it was a way
of fishing that I've never done. It's called snagging, and
you don't catch the fish in the mouth. You basically
(04:11):
throw out this like lure that's around silver ball that's
got three hooks on it, and you you fling it
and you let it drop for a minute, and then
you snag it and reel it in, snag it and
reel it in, and you end up snagging the fish
by its side and the hook just gets in it
and you just pull it in.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, why is that better?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I don't know that it is, but it's just I mean,
it's definitely not for the fish. And then after the
first fish was caught, it was sitting in a bin
in the back of the boat. And I'm used to,
like when I grew up fishing, we would just like
throw them in a cooler and they would stop breathing
at some point, and I go, so, where do where
does the fish move next? And like the time, I
wish I could do every voice like perfectly, but it
(04:55):
was like I asked this girl she's like holding the fish,
go well, so where does the fish go next? And
she just go and like snaps the fish and throws
it in this thing and the el's drummer goes to heaven.
It was just like so perfectly tied. It like basically
rips its gills out. Yeah, they had fingers in both
(05:16):
sides of the gills, and she just went and like
and then the fish goes slap into the thing, and
I was just like, oh my god, this is so savage.
The other thing that they do is I'll just hit
them with like a billy club to kill them, and
we never did that. We just kind of I don't know,
it's probably actually more humane club. It was just like
a little bat like, you know, like, yeah, that's so,
(05:38):
that's why I happened fish blood on me because like
people were like hidden fish. I mean, once they started,
we caught forty pounds of fish.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Have you considered washing this sweatshirt or is that no?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It makes me feel really like Alaskan. I know, I've
got blood on my jeans too. I will wash those.
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Wow. Well, I mean, I'm sure it made that fans
day that you guys went out there with.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh, I mean we ended up like best friends with all.
I mean, it was her. Her friends were all really cool.
The guy on the boat was amazing, and it really
made the like exhaustion because the exhaustion hadn't fully set
in yet, but we knew it was coming. It made
it a hundred percent worth it. And then they all
came to the festival the next day, and it was
just a blast, Like it made us feel like we
(06:26):
were actually part of the community.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I could see that, and it's.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That was the thing that I loved the most. But
I mean, obviously the landscape is unbelievable. It's like you're
an avatar, you know. But it feels like they're a
little bit like lost in time too. Like everything feels
like I felt like people looked like or their fashion
sense was similar to like when I was in college.
(06:50):
You know, It's very hippy dippy.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And like it's also just so removed from everywhere else. Yeah,
doing their own thing.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
They're doing their own thing, and every one was so
lovely and like it was just sexuality and gender and
skin color. Like it was everyone was just at this
festival together and it was like super chill and like
there weren't like real fences. It was like anyone could
have just rushed backstage if they wanted to. But like
(07:18):
people were behaving and like there were families there and
it was I don't know, it was awesome. It was
like what my soul needed. So the exhaustion was ended
up very worth it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But yeah, wow, well, our little Alaskan adventurer over here.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I would one hundred percent go back to Homer.
I don't know that I need to like go all
over Alaska.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah wow, just ripe with salmon blood all over.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I don't even know how to follow this, Like what
am I about to tell you? Guys? It's even remotely
that interesting? No pressure, I'm like, what did I even
do last week?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I did have a really nice getaway with my man.
We did a little like it wasn't a staycation because
we drove an hour and a half, but there's this
place called north Star Nature Suits, like an hour and
a half outside of Nashville, and they had.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Look, it's really pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's so pretty. Yeah, it's like it's a luxury cabin
is what they call it. But it's essentially like you're
up in the mountains, but you have a really nice
hotel room, like a five star hotel room. Was you know,
kind of like it's just like what was it called again,
north Star Nature Suites. Okay, So yeah, we had a
(08:29):
really nice time and then we drew a drive like
there was a little town called Sparta, Tennessee that was
like twenty minutes from where we were staying, so you
could like go hike waterfalls and things like that. That
part of Tennessee is just so pretty, you know, like
close to Chattanooga and all of that, you really kind
of forget how beautiful it is and hilly and mountainy
(08:49):
and all that stuff because Nashville is such a city
that but it's like you can go about thirty to
forty five minutes outside of Nashville and see the most
beautiful landscapes like that, And so we had a really
nice time. Sparta was so cute. There's actually one of
the best pizza places. And I don't even eat pizza
because of no gluten Nodta you can have exactly which
(09:09):
I missed, but they had a really nice gluten free crust.
But it was like one of the most amazing pizza
places that my boyfriend ever said. He went and he
is such a pizza snob, like he worked at a
pizza place in Italy for a while, so he really
like knows authentic pizza, you know, And he was like,
I don't know how this is possible, but Sparta Tennessee
(09:31):
is bringing it with the pizza. But the owners, the
owners of that restaurant were from Italy, so it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, anyway, and then we went to there's this like
Mennonite woman who has this little bakery across from her
house where she from Thursday to Saturday puts out like
she bakes all week, puts out homemade cinnamon rolls, homemade bread, cookies, cakes, pies,
all this stuff. You go in and there's just this
(09:58):
open like container the cash, and you just leave the
cash that it says on top of it. And I
was talking to a man that lives there, and I
was like, how does she know people aren't gonna steal?
And all of a sudden he says that she says,
if they do, they must need it more than me,
and that's not really between that's between them and God,
you know, like whatever, So she just leaves it open.
(10:18):
There's just cash. It was like a lot of cash too.
I was like, you would never in a big city
see this, But we went back twice because it was
just so lovely and I love, you know, things made
from the farm. So it was obviously that was the
sugar things made from the farm, but it was made
you know, all the icing on the cinnamon rolls was
(10:39):
made from milk from their cows and just all that
kind of stuff like I love I love a farm life.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Was she not even in this shop at all?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh nobody, nobody was man in it. It was wild. Wow,
you just like leave your money. We calculated ourselves and
then left the cash.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, you're like this cinnamon role only looks worth a dollar.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
She would on the container, like the cinnamon rolls. She
would say like eight dollars or whatever, like for the
full thing. So anyway, wid Yeah, it was a really
nice weekend though. So yeah, we had a little bit
of travel, both of us last week.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I hope yours. I hope yours was more RESTful than mine.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because I was definitely RESTful by the.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Time it caught up to me. It was actually on Monday,
because I got we landed at like five thirty am
on Sunday, and I thought, that's great, like I'll be
able to like sleep most of the day into a
reset and blah blah blah. But it wasn't really until
Monday that the true exhaustion hit. And I had a
couple of meetings where I was like, I couldn't say
I was brain dead.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that's the worst a brain.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Dad. I'm just like I often say that I don't
feel like I'm fifty years old, like because I'm just
not allowing myself to do that. But it's moments like
that where I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm getting older.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Like I did, yourself would have done fine.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh my god, I would have been fine.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Even from small trips. Right now, I just yeah, it
just takes it out of you a little bit more.
But I love to travel, so we'll keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it's worth doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Anyway. We are back this week and we're going to
discuss astrology, which if you guys listen on Wednesday, Marv
did a full rundown of August astrology. We're in Leo's season,
but there's a lot going on. I feel like I
say that every month just because the astrology has been
astrology ing for quite some time now. I mean, but
(12:32):
it's going to be it's going to continue being like that.
Like we're just in a big transition period and probably
have been since starting in about twenty eighteen, but we
think we started to really feel it in twenty twenty.
So anyway, all of this is the norm I think
for most of us now but there's always things to
work with the astrology, which is why I have marv on.
(12:54):
He tells us kind of the energies of the month,
and then also like, here's what might be coming up
for you, or if you notice some of these themes, like,
here's how to work with it. Here's some questions to
ask yourself. That's what astrology is for. It's to help
us reflect and really get to know ourselves on a
deeper level, and then to work with the energy. Because
whether you believe in astrology or don't, like it is happening,
(13:16):
there's all sorts of energy happening all the time, and see,
you might as well learn to work with it. That's
how I feel. It's like it's going to happen. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's interesting you saying that. It reminded me of when
I went to therapy when I was younger in New York.
I didn't really want to do the work myself. I
just wanted to go talk and have him be like, well,
this is what's.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Wrong, and then fix it for you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And fix it for me. And I kept being like, well,
what's my diagnosis, because like that's not really how this works.
And it's funny because I feel like that's probably how
a lot of people approach astrology, at least that's how
like when you were talking, it's like, wait a minute,
I'm thinking of astrology like therapy, where it's like you're
supposed to read a thing and be like, oh, that's
(13:58):
why and then just move on and versus it being
more of a guide all.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
This stuff we talk about on this podcast. The reason
I'm bringing it to conversation is because it is a
way for you to like, there're different tools for you
to do the work of your life, I guess, is
how I would say it. And so like I think
we're all here for a specific purpose, on a specific journey,
(14:25):
and there's all these different road maps, and astrology is
the one that I find to be very very very
helpful in kind of showing me like the path or
the why this happened at a certain part of my life,
or the things that were coming up at that time,
why I was facing those challenges even and it always
(14:45):
has made so much sense, and so now I can
look at it and know kind of more about my
own personal chart, but also like on a bigger scale,
like what's happening universally or whatever. And how that's going
to be impacting me directly. And it's not like an
astrologer sometimes they can make predictions of well it might
be themes of this, but nobody should really ever be
(15:08):
telling you like this exact thing is going to happen
on this date at this time and whatever you know,
like that isn't what I believe anyway. Even with working
with psychics and stuff like, I find it to be
helpful in getting in touch with my own intuition more
than anything. And so all that is to say, it's like, yeah,
if there's this tool here, or there's like you know,
human design or gene keys or all the different things
(15:31):
we talk about, why am I just going to turn
my back on it? Versus like that? It just reminds
me of like a couple driving around and the woman
being like, well, we have this roadmap or something, and
the man's like, oh, I don't need a map, you know,
like old school things you would see and it's like that.
And this isn't to say men or women. It's just like,
in general, why would you turn your back on the map.
I don't get it, Like, I'm like, give me the map,
(15:53):
because this shit's confusing.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, there's also enough that you have to figure out
for yourself that if you can make some parts of
your life easier than you stamn map.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, and I think also it's just yeah, like it
makes it easier. But also for me it helps a
lot with just trying not to control, like just turning
things over and knowing that you know it's kind of
already all mapped out and you want to if you
want to show up as the best version of yourself,
like work on trying to get to that place of
facing your shit or the things that you're trying to
(16:26):
bury or run away from, like why they're coming up,
Like to learn how to work with them and deal
with them versus just keep struggling through life not paying
attention or trying to like repress or push things down
like it always ends up coming out anyway. So like
instead of trying to control and manage and manipulating all
the things, just like learn to work with it. Right,
(16:47):
I don't know, right, that's my mentality. But I was
telling you about the convers station with Marv and we
are currently in a Mercury retrograde, and you were like,
I just still don't really get what it means, and
(17:07):
you said you have a lot of questions, but you
also said you don't get what it means. But you
also use mercury retrograde as an excuse, which I think
is such a big, like common thing in our culture.
So did you want to tell the people a little
bit about what you were saying to.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, I mean, I've definitely like and I think it's
just because it's a learned behavior, you know, like, oh,
it must be a mercury retrograde. But it's one of
those things that has become like that term has come
to mean like if something can go wrong, it will
kind of and to be honest, like I don't know
shit about like when it happens, how long it happens,
(17:45):
what are the signs that it's happening, Like what can
you do to protect yourself? And I guess just in
the most basic and I could probably google this stuff,
but you know, we're having a conversation, so that wouldn't
be a very fun podcast. But like you know, at
the most basic level, like what does it mean, Like
is it moving backwards or does it just appear to
be moving backwards? Is it even about its movements? Like, oh,
(18:09):
I guess it's the first time in my life that
I've like actually asked, I've yeah, like, what is mercury
retrograde outside of it being this period of when everything
goes wrong?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Well, obviously mercury is a planet y thing to start,
So they say retrograde periods are when things start moving backwards.
It's really not moving backwards. It's like an optical illusion.
I think it's slowed. The planet actually slows down, but
from Earth looking up at the planet, it would appear
that it's moving backwards right now, even though it's not.
(18:41):
I don't exactly know how long retrogrades last. That would
be something to google. But when they come up, like
if unless you live under a rock, you're going to
see something on social media nowadays with the way it goes,
or you can start working with an astrologer or learning
how to read your own chart or reading astrolog charts
in general, and you'll see when it's going to go retrograde.
(19:03):
But what's interesting is like it does get so demonized
in pop culture, and I think that's because often during
retrograde periods, specifically mercury retrograde, we do see a lot
of like technological issues or things slowing down. They say
not to sign like big contracts because you might not
(19:23):
be seeing clearly during this time. So I think a
lot of people go, oh god, this isn't working. It
must be mercury retrograde, and that is true. Like I've
actually had a lot of tech issues even with this podcast.
Like that was one of the reasons last week that
we ended up kind of taking a step back for
a week because I was having some technical difficulties and
(19:45):
it was just I was like, of course I should
have known, like this is an amplified mercury retrograde as
well this time, because there's so many other energies happening
at the same time, and it's just things like that.
So they always say, like, you know, make sure you
back up your work or make sure you like an
extra copy, and like that was true for me. I
recorded a whole podcast that you guys will hear next week,
(20:06):
which was such a good conversation, and I couldn't get
it to download, and I was freaking out, you know,
because I'm like, oh my god, I just lost this
whole conversation that I love so much. But that's typical
during mercury retrograde and So it's more about for me
almost preparing mentally, like that kind of stuff is going
to happen. What do I need to do to kind
of dot all my eyes and cross on my te's
(20:27):
before that happens, and then when it gets here, trying
not to freak out and just take the next right
step of like figuring it out, because ultimately, even though
mercury retrograde gets so demonized as all of those things,
what it is here to do is asking us to
slow down into review. So like the other thing you'll
always hear is that xes come back during mercury retrograde,
(20:50):
and they do. Like I actually had an ex comeback
that keeps coming back recently, and he came out. He
came back again this retrograde. He's come back the last
three retrograde. So I finally had to block him. But
it was like just this really interesting thing to me
because it always comes back. And so now when it
happens like all like I looked at the text and
(21:12):
I was like, what have I not closed out here?
Like what am I not doing? And for me, I
decided it was like I haven't blocked him yet, So
I was still letting my energy be accessible in a
way that like I didn't feel like was appropriate for
this situation anymore. It didn't make me feel good, and
so that was another block. And sometimes I think that's
what's happening, is like the universe is testing you a
(21:34):
little bit to be like, Okay, we're gonna put this
right in front of you. You sure, like you sure
you're gonna still make this decision? Are you sure? It's
like almost like a testing lesson, you know what I mean,
Like did you really learn that lesson? Are you gonna
like stick to your guns? Are you gonna hold your boundaries?
Are you gonna still take care of yourself even though
there's this other thing coming up that's like dangling a
(21:57):
you know, a carrot right in front of you, whether
that's an ex a, a narrative or whatever it is
old friendship, like all of these things are very typical
to come back during mercury retrograde. But it's not to
like harm you. It's to ask you to review, like
did you is there anything else you need from this?
Or are you really done? Because when you're done, they
(22:19):
say like things go away, like they don't keep showing
their face or coming back to you or presenting to
you if there's closure, full closure, and you've learned a
lesson and it's time to move on, right. Have you
ever experienced anything like that?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I mean, I guess there have been breakups that are
that way, you know, like I can't think of any
other like clear examples.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But have you noticed any excess coming back during retrogrades ever?
Or well?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I never really know when retrogrades are. So what is
what is the date range of this one? Do you know? Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, I'm like, why I'm on?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean, you're like google, don't? Yeah, well, I mean
I think for the listeners, maybe I'll google it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I think it's over August. I want to say night,
it's over this weekend. We also have a full moon
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
When you say over, does it mean how long does
it last?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I don't know, a couple of weeks usually, Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wait, I'm googling. This is the Old Farmer's Almanac answer
for win is mercury in retrograde this year? And they
see if I can find you.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, the happens multiple times July.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Seventeenth through August tenth. So we're in it. We're like
squarely in it. So we've got three more days. Yeah,
I'm trying to think if any exes have presented themselves. Yes,
I mean not an X, but like I don't know
if well, I don't know if we talked about him
on here. But when I went to Montana, I went
on a date with this guy who was ended up
(23:50):
being very weird. I got a text from him last
week maybe that said is it weird that I miss you?
And I just I mean, I literally I've not responded
to a text from this guy since I got home
from Montana, And I wanted to be like, yes, it's
weird that you missed me. You met me one time
for maybe four you're a weirdo about it. Yeah, so
(24:12):
that I mean, that's.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Okay, good to write back.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But that's the thing, though, You're being almost baited because
the question I got it was is it weird that
I still text you? And it's like, yeah, well, when
I haven't responded the last three times you've texted me,
I would say yeah, yeah, and after I told you
I didn't want to talk ever again, like yeah, it
is weird. But I realized I'm like, oh, this is
very typical when someone's trying to get you to answer,
(24:42):
you know, and so I was like, not only am
I not going to answer now, you've violated my boundaries
too many times and you're getting plucked.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You're getting planed. Yeah, because I don't need this energy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, I just don't even want it. It makes me
angry when it comes up because I'm like, you are
literally walking all over everything I said, and it's so
disrespectful to me my current relationship, Like I just don't
want to be treated like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, and you're right, like by giving it any sort
of air, I mean, I guess this could be considered
talking about it, but like responding to them in any
way is what they want. Like even if you write
back something shitty like go fuck yourself, like they want.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
They get off on that kind of engagement period. I
think it's the hardest lesson, right. It's like when someone's
treating you bad to not engage at all. But it's
like when you start to realize certain personality types get
off on even negative attention, you're like, I can't whatever.
So hopefully yeah, that none of our people listen to
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I mean, well it's funny too, because it's like it's
so not in my nature just to ignore people. I
don't do it either, and so not responding to him,
I mean, maybe I should block him because that haunts me,
you know, like the fact that I haven't responded, I
feel like an.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Asshole, and You'll get in your head about it, and.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I'll get in my head and like I really kind
of want to respond. I mean, it's like at the
point now where I more want to respond out of
the ridiculousness of Like I mean, it's like there was
one day he sent me like five songs, like you know,
it was like his version of a mixtape because he
was thinking of me, Like it's weird, but yeah, I
mean if that happened within Mercury retrograde.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But the thing is, you're acting as if this is
what I always have to tell myself because how you were,
Like I just almost want to respond because of the ridiculousness,
and like my biggest thing is always to I want
to explain, Hey, this is fucking ridiculous, or this is yes,
I like what I said, I haven't responded to you
in these amount of times I said this, like, yes,
it's weird, but like then that's acting. I can't remember
(26:41):
what the saying is. It's something like, oh, you can't
reason with crazy. So it's like I would be sitting
here trying to convince a person who is clearly trying
to provoke me in some way, shape or form or
get some sort of response, trying to convince them why
their behavior is crazy. That's not going to go. Well.
All that does is just bring me into that.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, they've also answered, like your example, in my example,
they both answered their their rhetorical questions like is it weird, Yeah,
it's fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
If you have to ask if it's weird, it's probably weird.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
One hundre.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It just feels like an old game, right Like in
my twenties, I would have been like, oh, they're still
thinking of me, you know, me and my ego would
have gotten like a little hit from it or something.
And now I'm just like, h is that a boundary?
You're not respecting?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It a block? Well, for those of you who are wondering,
it does so. It ends August tenth. It happens three
times a year, and the third one for twenty five
is November nine through twenty nine, which means it will
be in retrograde when I turn fifty for real.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh yeah, I mean that's not necessarily bad though.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I mean it's if there's ever a time to
slow down and reflect, it's yeah, when you're turning half
a century year old.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's also kind of the end of the year, so totally. Yeah,
it's it's really like it's like an inner deep dive,
and so I think a lot of stuff that might happen.
And I mean I talked about this a little bit
with Marv, like I got triggered into something from another
relationship with my current boyfriend. Not so the other relationship
wasn't the person that texted me whatever it was, Oh,
(28:17):
got all these exes coming back, But I got triggered
to this old situation and I reacted to my current
boyfriend from that trigger. And I was saying to Marv,
I'm like, oh, this is I can't believe this came up.
But the more he talked about the astrology of this month,
I was like, but of course it came up, you know.
So like that's what the retrogrades are for, is like
if you notice something in you are trying to pay
(28:41):
more attention to these things. Like when I was so angry.
It feels real, right Like in my current relationship, that
situation felt real. And then when I actually started saying
stuff out loud, I immediately was like, this has nothing
to do with him, This isn't about him, this is
so old. And so then it's a time for me
to go internal and ask myself why, like what need
(29:02):
isn't getting met or what got me triggered into that place,
and then just talking about it with my current partner
because he's very open like that, but like you know,
we were able to have a productive conversation. But then
also like asking myself like what do I need, you know,
and how do I need to resolve this within myself
because I clearly haven't fully resolved it or wouldn't be
coming up now. So it's like that kind of stuff.
(29:24):
It's not necessarily just like murcury retrograde's here to fuck
with you. It's actually just asking us to kind of
slow down and be conscious, you know, versus just running
through life mindlessly.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Well, yeah, it's like to pay attention to the things
that are on autopilot normally.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Made exactly and that's why there's like an ex is
gonna get pinged to text you, because for both of y'all,
stuff is probably coming up, and you're doing the old
thing to alleviate that, right instead of like, hey, I
used to suck at boundaries. This is me talking about me.
I used to sucking boundaries. I just didn't have them.
(30:02):
So people from my past feel very comfortable to enter
into any part of my life, right yeah, And when
me setting boundaries, they're like, wait, what what is she doing?
Like this doesn't make sense. Oh, surely I can get
her to like walk. You know. I used to just
not be able to hold shit either, even if I
would say it. So he's just trying that because that's
what used to work in the past, and I'm like, yo,
(30:24):
I'm different now, that's not gonna work anymore. But it's
me having to really like stick with that because the
tests keep happening and I'm like, wow, oh, it would
be easy for me to self abandon and just be
like answer, yes it's weird or whatever like engage, but
then that's still giving it energy.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like we said, yeah, yeah, I haven't gotten to the
block point yet with the person in Montana, but maybe
I'll do that the next time he responds, it's like.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, I mean, this was the third or fourth time
since I've set a boundary, so it was like, okay,
and I remember saying last time, if he does it again,
I'm texting. I mean, I'm blocking mine.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Is just funny because like I literally am a strange
church of this person, you know what I mean, Like
at least this was a boyfriend, right, So yeah, that's
a good example of a retrograde thing happening.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So it's not a curse, No, it's definitely it's.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Actually kind of a blessing.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well if you work with it. We're circling back to
the beginning of this conversation and what astrology can help
you learn is like, instead of being the person that's
the online going, oh, it's mark your retrograde even though
like like one of my keys hasn't been working randomly,
it's like a tech thing and I'm so frustrated about it.
And I was like, oh, smirky, retrograde's rocking me. But
(31:49):
it is, yeah, but it's making me slow down and
I'm having to Like. The interesting thing is is, so
remember when we first got on this call, I told
you we're switching platforms for and I probably wouldn't have
made that jump, which I've needed to make if I
didn't have that thing go wrong with the interview last week.
(32:10):
So does that make sense? So it's like it brings
something that needs to change to the surface to then
invite you to make the changes. And that that was
like something I've been saying I need to do for
six months at least. It's tedious and time consuming, you know.
And now I'm like, Okay, well, I will never want
to feel like how I just felt when that didn't
when I thought I had lost that interview. So I'm
(32:31):
going to try a new platform and I'll spend time
this week in setting that up. So it served its purpose, right.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's funny we actually yesterday our IT department migrated to
like a new version of Outlook.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Or something like really interesting timing to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm like, now that we're having this conversation, I'm like, why, why,
why was it? Why did we do that? And the
funny thing is is like our IT guy, James is amazing,
and he sent out like very detailed emails and stuff,
and of I had to print them out because I'm
a boomer, and I was like, I was like, well,
what if I can't access my email and then I
(33:07):
don't know what to do. But like so much of
it is on us to like it's not like they're
just like, hey, this is happening in the back end.
They're like, you have to remove it from your computer.
You got to remove things from your phone. So it's
like yesterday during work and they're like, your email should
work normal, but these are some of the troubleshooting things,
and yesterday was very wonky for me, and I noticed
(33:28):
that there were things that weren't in same you know,
it'd be in my calendar on my phone but not
on my computer, a vice versa. And I think it's
all worked itself out, but like during this conversation, I'm like,
why the fuck would they have done that?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, you think your it guys following astrology, probably not,
but he should, I mean he should. Yeah. So, like
there's even things about like timing up launches and stuff
and trying not to do anything big during a retrograde
because it doesn't mean like if you've been planning it
for a long time and it's already booked to happen,
it doesn't mean you should switch it. It's just something
(34:03):
to be aware of because if you launch during a retrograde,
you may have to circle back to like really, let's
say you launch and you're like, here's our mission statement. Well,
something may come up in a couple months when Mercury's
station direct that makes you have to review that or
the next Merkur retrograde, Like you might need to go
back and review or relaunch your mission statement or something
(34:26):
if you do it during retrograde, is what they say. Yeah,
always true. I mean it's just like especially if you've
been preparing, like I said, for a long time. That's
not always the case, but it could happen that way.
And then there's like these shadow periods, so like the
before and after the actual dates. They say that the
energy can still linger a little bit, like it takes
a little bit sad.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Out it like phases in and out. What's funny because
like I'm like going crossside, just like thinking about all
the fucking work I have to do it. Like, but
that's the whole point is that we should be working
for oursel.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You know, like you're like, well, when it comes back around,
you might need to readdress and it's I guess you know.
Astrology is one of those things that's there if we
want it and we're working on ourselves. It's not something
that like everyone has to be paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's just you don't have you don't have to do
any of this stuff. It's just how do you want
to walk through your life? And like for me, it
just makes life left difficult because.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I'm like Ye's explanation in.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
That explanation, and then also, like we're talking about with
this marketing retrograde stuff, you learn how to work with
different energies. So like if during a retrograde, I'm feeling
more tired than normal, I'm not going to push myself
to go do that Barry's class like I'll like reevaluate
I might go for a walk instead, or like you know,
really try to pay attention to what the energy is doing.
(35:51):
Like if I'm feeling like that, there's a reason. So
learning just the ways that maybe you specifically respond or
what it can look like in your life, like that's
just really helpful because I think we just live in
such a culture of control enforcing and we don't necessarily
like to pay attention. It's like we want to move
(36:12):
unconsciously and just everything to be easy, and that's not realistic, right,
so it's like walk or be dragged kind of.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I don't know right right now that it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, do you have any other mercury retrograde questions? Or
did I help at all?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I mean I think I think it, Like that was
really insightful, Thank you, And I guess I'll just need
to like do a little bit more digging to see
specifically how it affects me and my sign. But we
don't need to go to that with everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, And I think you had asked me like, is
there a sign and impacts most But really, I mean
this is helpful. If you guys haven't listened to mar yet,
maybe to go listen back to what he's saying, because
this marcury retrograde is in Leo, so it's going to
show its face with Leo energy a lot more and
then probably Leo's and other fire signs will feel the
(37:04):
impact of it more like or they could. You also
brought up you were like, well, I bet that drives
a virgo crazy. It's like, how do you know about Virgo?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I just know that they're so kind of type.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
A type A meticulous. Yeah, very much so. So, But
it's interesting because Virgo is ruled by mercury, So Virgo
I mean for mercury going retrograde. Yeah, I'm sure it
does drive a Virgo crazy because they're like, why is
my structure not structuring? Like why is my to do
list not easy to check off? And all that stuff.
(37:36):
But I don't know that it's necessary. I mean for them,
it's probably even more important to try to pause and
like go with the flow, let things go, and not
be so type A or like perfectionistic. Marv talked a
lot about that right on the Wednesday podcast. So, but
it impacts everybody. I mean it's it's going to impact
(37:56):
because we all have all the energies, we have all
signs in our chart. It's just you might have more planets.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And does it affect this will be my last question
and you may not know the answer, but does it
affect Like if it's happening during Leo, now, does it
affect them more?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
So? What really, if you were wanting to work with
this energy, so you would go take your chart, look
at where you have Leo in your chart? So whatever
house So like Leo for me is my fourth house.
That's a lot of family, that's a home. Life. That's
I can't remember even the other things, but look up
what that house is. You can google it and get
(38:35):
on CHATBT. I always say this to people, unless you
know a little bit about astrology, be careful with chat
or any sort of AI resource because it's not always accurate.
And like, I can call it out when it's not
accurate because I recognize it. But if I didn't know
what I know about astrology, I might just blindly take
that information. And you know, right, So maybe google even
(38:58):
before you chat, but find out what house it's in,
and then those are probably the themes that will come
up for you, like an actuality. Knowing that the argument
I got in with my boyfriend it was all about
home and chores and like home life, and that's my
house that Leo's in, So that's what it's gonna impact.
(39:19):
So wherever Leo is in your chart, I'm trying to
think of what yours is Scorpio rising. I would have
to look, I can't do it in my brain.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
It's I don't know how y'all do any of the shit.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
To be honest, you just learned a time. Yeah. Anyway, Well,
if you guys want to know more about this, month's astrology.
You can go listen to Wednesday's podcast with master astrologer
Marvin Wilkerson that is up, and then you can always
hit me and chip up. You can email us at
the Edge at velvetsedge dot com. I'm on Instagram at
(39:51):
Velvet's Edge Chip.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I'm at chip doors. It's Chip d R scch.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Did you just misspell your last name?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
No, I like this. There was like a weird pause.
D R d R d Y now d O R
s c H.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And also we are launching our Velvet Edge podcast Instagram
this month, so make sure to follow along. We're gonna
have lots of like journal prompts, different clips for you guys,
and just also resources in general, Like it's going to
be way more streamlined having that specific podcast. So that's
at Velvet Edge podcast on Instagram. We'll have that up
and running asap as soon as the market retrogrades over.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
In fact, we're launching shit now.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I'm not no I know too much, but anyway, as always,
thank you guys so much for listening, listening, and as
you walk into this weekend and you're living on the edge,
I hope you always remember too.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
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