April 4, 2025 • 40 mins
In this episode, Chip and Kelly are inspired by the Aries New Moon Eclipse energy and dive into the idea of rebranding your life – with plenty of laughs along the way. From Chip’s epic hair rebrands (perm phase included) to how life’s challenges push us to reinvent ourselves, they explore why clinging to a one-size-fits-all blueprint holds us back. Instead of feeling stuck or pressured to have it all figured out, they talk about why it’s okay to evolve, grow, and sometimes just start fresh – whether it’s your mindset or your hairstyle. Tune in for relatable stories, real talk, and a reminder that change can actually be a good (and funny) thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
How do you feel about the level of tan that
I am the lord?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I thought I was zooming with tam Mom.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Mom is on this goal. I feel it's so funny.
I'm looking at me in the zoom thing right now.
When your tan, your teeth looks so much wider.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You really do.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeah, not that you need this, but the reason why
I love being tan is because it makes you thinner.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You feel like it makes everybody just look better.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Just yeah, you just look better, but like it definitely
if you have like weight on your body, it makes
you look thinner. There used to be on Church Street
in Nashville there was like a tanning salona that had
a billboard, like the kind of you can change the letters.
I don't know, a Marquee kind of thing. Okay said
tan fat looks better than skinny fat.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's true though, I mean true, Like everybody, even though
I am slimmer whatever, I still feel like my body
looks totally different. Like I look like I have more muscles,
every things, more tone, more tight.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
If I have a tan, yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Is a I mean I wonder if it just creates
like shadows too, you know, contouring.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's just a little bit of coverage too.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I'm going to Charleston this weekend and it's warm
and I'm going to see my man.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I want it to look good.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Me.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I need a little spray tans I got the rapid
tan and if you look, it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Like a polaroid like developing right in my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
On the end of this podcast, you're I mean, I'm
gonna be so dark, so dark, but then I'll look
amazing about tonight, so.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You'd be so skinny, I won't see you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Do you remember the days of tanning beds? I feel
like we've talked about this in the podcast before, but
did you go to the tanning bed?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, I can still remember the smell, you know, like
of your skin cooking. But I mean I lived in
Los Angeles and I had a membership in a tanning
bed like there was because you could go and like
on my lunch break, I'd get fifteen minutes of tan
in and I loved it, Like it just made me.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It would go for.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Ten or fifteen minutes and me a totally different color.
Just shows how bad it is. I'm sure right, like
it cannot. I actually don't think spray tanning is probably
that great either, But I do it every you know, sporadically,
and sometimes you're just like I need.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The little help, you need a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
But do you remember how we used to I used
to put like stickers on, like the Buddy line or something, yeah,
playboy Bunny or like a heart or a star or whatever.
I thought that was so bad. Like when I was
in high school.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I thought I was a girl. No body when I
would go do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I remember, I can't even remember why I was there.
It must have been for a birthday party or something.
But okay, this was years ago in Los Angeles. We
went to Lance Bass's house. He had a room with
a tanning bed in it, and.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I was, I was.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think the story was the I think he had
just bought the house and it was already there.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, but he kept it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But he kept it like it had not been removed yet.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Was this pre in sync, during in sync or.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Post host in sync?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay, say, if he's in a boy Man and he
still had those frosted tips, he for sure would need
that tanning bed.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He would need a tanning bed.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was definitely post and sync, but it was before
he got married, so he was still single at the time,
but I also remember the only two things I remember
about his house was well three things kind of where
it was, Yeah, the tanning bed and we found his
MTV moon Man and we all like we're.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Taking shoot, Yeah, giving sun little story.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
This is kind of an interesting transition though, because we
just talked about like our tanning bed days. Obviously I've
transitioned into spray tanning, so this is a big one.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
This is You're transitioning into tan mom right now.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm currently transitioning into tan mom.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
So a lot of rebranding happening for me, and I
was telling you about I did a podcast on Wednesday
with master astrologer Marvin Wilgerson. He was telling me about
what will have been the I'm trying to do time
here when I recorded with Marv the eclipse the areas
eclipse happening that weekend, and it's also happening. It's happening
(04:03):
tomorrow based on when you and I are recording. But
people are gonna be hearing this the week after it happens.
Not that this matters to you, guys, but I'm just
telling you anyway so we can all be on the
same page. But he was telling me about the eclipse,
the areas eclipse, and the whole thing that's happening right
now astrologically, energetically. I'm sure you guys are feeling this
(04:23):
in some way, shape or form. In the world in general.
Is things are being broken down so that we can
rebuild them.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Basically, like everything bring.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Kind of but like this is on a much bigger
scale than what we usually feel each year. It's on
the scale of this hasn't happened since eighteen, like eighty
six kind of thing, this kind of astrology, Like I
think this eclipse the last time it happened in Arias,
this specific one happened the day after the Civil War started.
(04:54):
So if that gives you kind of the vibe of
where we are, it's very much like we're fed up
with the way things are going. We're going to fight
for what we believe in, whatever that looks like now,
Like it's not going to look exactly like the Civil
War looked like, and it's not just happening in America,
Like Marv made a point to be like, this is
happening in the world, but his whole point on a
(05:14):
personal level too, and on a personal level, like We're
all in this place.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Whether you feel it, don't feel it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
When I acknowledge it or not acknowledge it, it is happening.
We're all in this place of kind of reevaluating the
things in our lives that don't work, the relationships that
don't work, the jobs that don't work, the.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Narratives in our head.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Like it could be whatever it is in your life
that feels like it's run its course and is misaligned,
it's probably going to break down right now, but that
is for it to be rebuilt and rebranded into something
more aligned with you better and overall that like just
functions better. So it can sound really scary, but it's
(05:59):
actually like, Okay, once we get through the hardship of it,
it's going to be really cool to.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
See chang changes what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, because I.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Think we're seeing like there's a lot of things that
aren't working. Specifically, if we're going to the United States,
like you could go to the healthcare system, you could
go to our food system, you could look at our
government like it ain't working anymore. We got to figure
something else out.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So Yeah, anyway, all that to say is that was
the Astrology podcast this week, and you guys know the
new thing we do is on Friday podcast we talk
about what we did on the Wednesday podcast and a lighter,
more tangible, more day to day vibe. And so Chip
and I were like, well, should we talk about rebranding then,
because some transition. Yeah, we've both gone through some rebrands.
(06:45):
When we first started talking about it, I said, the
immediate thought I had was you with a perm?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
The funny thing about that perm is I dreamt of
that for so long. I was actually born with curly hair. Interesting,
my mom has curly hair. Grandmother, my mom's mom was
a hairdresser. Yeah, and my sister has like who is older.
She was almost two years old when I was born.
She always had like pin straight hair, and I come
(07:12):
with a curly head of hair, and my grandmother he
cursed the heavens.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
She was like, how could you do this?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Give this beautiful head of hair to a boy instead
of the girl? And three days later my hair was straight.
So I've always had this aching for curly hair. And
I found somebody that would do an organic perm in Nashville,
and I had a perm for a few years. You
really beautiful as I dreamt it would me like I like,
I look at pictures now and I'm like, what was
(07:39):
I thinking?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But in the moment I loved it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, And I feel like your hair in general has
been a source of rebranding for you, like you change
your hair when you're changing your life every single time.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I was blonde for a while, I used to cut
my own hair a because I was broken cheap, but
I thought I was doing a great job and not like.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You look broke with that haircut.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And I remember I was at the Hollywood Bowl because
now my hair I do it like up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I was at the Hollywood Bowl seeing Mary J.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Blige and Jay Z that was the tour, and this
stranger sitting next to me was like, you have this.
It was a woman, and she just said, you have
really beautiful eyes. Why do you cover him up with
all that hair? And at the time, I was dating
a guy named Mark who was a hairdresser, and I
said something I was I told him that night afterwards,
(08:29):
and he goes, I've thought the same thing, but he was.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Like, as your boyfriend, I can't be like, let me
face so true.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And also Mark is like a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Stylus, celebrity hair person, kill hairstylist, there is yes.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And so he still refused to do my hair and
he got his girl, his best friend, Aviva, did it,
and he was like, this is what you should do.
And he told me about like this is the shape
of my head. He was like, this is why you
need to do these things, like blah blah blah. And
it was like stuff that like the average person would
never know. And probably honestly, most you know, of the
(09:01):
hair people that I could afford.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
At the time didn't know either.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No either, Yeah, and by that I mean myself, because
I was right.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I love that he wouldn't cut yours. My boyfriend and
I talk about this all the time. I'm like, he
asked me for fashion advice, so ask me for hair advice,
or like obviously I could cut his hair for him,
like shape it up, all that stuff, and I just
don't ever feel comfortable doing it for my boyfriends.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And like I'll give fashion advice a.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Little bit, but like it always feels like it's on
the what's the word precipice of bringing up a fight if.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I could could be a fight, yeah, yeah, Like it's.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Just building up to something because you don't want to
insult anyone. You want your person to feel like they're
amazing anyway, and obviously like I think he's so hot already.
It's not like I feel like he needs to change
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Do I When he pulls all the cargo shorts, you
got to be like, oh, I mean I I draw
the line a cargo short.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't know they're back in style. Actually that's not
really where I would draw.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I yeah, I have drawn lines on hats like that
is one thing. I'm just like, yeah, that was not
that's just not very current, you know. And I'll give feedback,
but it is a fine line you have to walk
when you're in a relationship with someone and this is
your job.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, I think if they're asking for advice, that's true,
just for you just to be like nice true religions,
like but I can't.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We just that couldn't be dating him probably if that
was his style.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Luckily he has really got it out.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, anyway, all of this is to say, it really
got me thinking about rebranding because as we're talking about
we're talking about like the external things obviously and physical
changes that we make throughout life. I feel like I'm
in a rebrand of like aging right now, and if not,
it's not of choice, but I am aging, and I'm
having to go through what is my new vibe going
(10:53):
to be? What is you know, good for my face?
At this point, the things that we're working in the
past are not working now. That's the physical rebrand. But
it's really interesting when I start thinking about what's happening
on a bigger scale, like what we just talked about
with Marv and also just like what rebranding is in general.
I actually think it's kind of the point of life.
(11:15):
Like I was when we and I were talking about
this topic. At first, I said to you, I just
really think that rebranding, to me is more about self discovery, growth, evolution,
and leaning into the fact that we're constantly changing and
we're supposed to like that's to me, the entire point
of life. But often we do kind of miss that,
(11:38):
you know. It's like we've been programmed to think you
get to a certain age, you figure certain things out,
and then you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Just exist like that is it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And it's so it's like false advertising of what life
is actually about, or.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
You get peggeda something like you're the funny guy, you're
the fat person one, you're the sensitive one. You know,
you're the athlete, and you feel like it is a
rule and all of the things. Those things could very
well be a very true piece of your identity. But
it's a piece of your identity. But it can be
very scary if you're the athlete who actually dreamt of
(12:16):
wanting to be an actor, and now all your athlete
friends are like, all right, you pansy, like no dance ballet,
you know, but you're like, if it's something that your
soul is telling you that you want to try. I
think it's really important to fight through the fear of
what other people's perceptions are of you, because the truth
(12:36):
is it's just you figuring you out, and you like
every little change allows you to grow and meet yourself
where yourself is in that moment.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know. It's funny. After we were talking about it,
I wrote down a few things like I was like,
what are some of the things.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
That I've done that that's like kind of scaring me
that like I don't even know where they fit in
my life. But like when I lived in New York,
I took guitar lessons, and I was like, I want
to do an open mic and I recorded it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I took it in the office to play for my boss.
I don't know why I did that.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
That's the scariest part. And she was like, why are
you doing this? And I was like, I think I'm
doing it because I want to like know that I
don't have to be scared. Because it was mortifying to
do because I also was I'm not a good guitar player, right,
you know, and I like sang an original song. It
was like mortifying. But then I in La I did
the ground wings. I just finished a four week class
(13:39):
on stand up writing in Nashville, and I have zero
desire to be a stand up comment zero.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But I think it's just one of those things.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Where it's like I allow my curiosity to guide me sometimes,
and I think that there are benefits to these things
that are beyond what the actual thing is.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, well, I hear that you're just challenging yourself to
keep evolving or trying new things, seeing what you're interested in,
and not just saying stuck in one version of yourself
for the rest of your life, right, which we were
talking about this in terms of successful musicians, And I
gave the example of Dolly Parton because obviously, like I
(14:21):
think it's really important to have core values and like
who you are in your wiring is probably going to
stay the same. But I don't think a lot of
us even know who we are until later in life,
and so we're just trying on these different versions of
ourselves to see kind of what feels right, and that's
the part that changes, I think, and if you don't
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allow room for that change is when you get stuck.
But like a person like Dolly, for instance, Dolly is
Dolly Parton obviously, like she's always the same, She's you know,
amazingly epic, She's always going to have the big boob
she has. Her branding is like the same across the board.
But what I've seen her do and the reason I
think she's still relevant is because she evolves in her
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process what she is doing, even like musically, Like think
about all the collaborations she's done this year. It's with
people like Miley Cyrus or she did a rock album.
You know, like she's constantly challenging herself and pushing the barriers,
but also paying attention to what society is doing like
(15:23):
social media or who's hip in a hot right now,
and she collaborates with them, you know, and so at
the end of.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The Carpenter Yeah, also just did that.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
With Sabriena Carpenter. And it's like Madonna did a really
good job of this for a long time. Like all
of the artists that I think have maintained really long
term careers.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Are really good at.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Evolving, rebranding themselves. Like even Beyonce. People love or hate Beyonce,
but like, think about that album she did when jay
Z cheated on her. That was a rebrand from this
like super sweet Beyonce pop artist that we had known forever.
She's throwing shit, She's like, who the fuck do you
think I am?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, like, yeah, we got to see the anger.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Exactly, and without that it becomes very uninteresting. If you
ask me, like to hear the.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Same album over and over. Yeah, but I think you break.
Like you bring up a really.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Essential point is the core values. If you look at Dolly,
like she approaches everything with kindness, She approaches everything with humor, right,
I mean, even like when you look at like the
musicals she's written and the movies that she starret in
like she has there. There's always like a very distinctly
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Dolly thing.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I remember reading she owns.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Dollywood obviously in Pigeon Forge and severe Real wherever it is.
And her manager at the time when she bought it,
and she bought it for nothing, it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Was like an old six flags.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think that she was like it was falling into
you know, debt or disrepair or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I think it's like twenty million dollars, which is a
lot of money for Dolly. That's not a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, that's like.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Her manager and her thought about it because he thought
it was the dumbest thing that she'd ever done. And
her motivation for buying it was to give her family jobs.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And she fired her manager over the arguments because her
manager at the time could not see past the fact
that she had just spent twenty million dollars on the
theme park. The first year that she rebranded it and
had it opened, it made like thirty five million dollars the.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
First year, right, and it's still strong.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, and it's going strong, and it's like it's probably
making a lot more than that. But like the fact
is is that her guiding principle was kindness. It wasn't
about money to her, like right, general family, like her
family grew up in the mountains and a lot of
them can't read, you know, like what do you do, right,
give the jobs that don't require that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So it's also not just giving them money, which I
really like. Oh, it's not like a charity. It's like, hey,
here's an opportunity exactly, and let me create that I have.
I've been given this stuff. I have this gift, whatever
it is, and then being very generous with it, but
in a way that like also would give people their
own self esteem and their own sense of self worth
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and discovery and all the things we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, and on top of it, she like sprinkled her
Dolly fairy dust on it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And it's this magical place that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Like I love Dollar Waight.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So it's my favorite theme park in America. Like it's
I would go there every weekend if it was close enough.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah. Fun.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So yeah, the core value thing, really, I think is
an important thing to point out.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Right, That's a tricky one because I do think that's
really important. And then I also think I can just
just looking at my life as I think why I'm
saying this, I do think my core values have ultimately
always been the same. I'm not sure they've always been
as clear to me like as they are right now.
And so I think when I was younger, there were
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moments where I was trying on different identities almost And
you and I have Pisce's moon, so that's very typical
of that if you guys want to get astrology on that.
But yeah, if you have any sort of Pisces in
your chart, you're kind of operating through life in like
a dreamlike state a lot of times in your younger life.
And we can also kind of meld into the environment
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we're in. Like when I'm with certain friends, I'm laughing,
I'm joking on whatever. If I'm with other friends, we're
serious and we're like. I have a lot of diff
of range. I guess all of it is my personality,
but different things bring out different things in me. And
I think a lot of people who don't have these
kind of parts of their chart their astrology chart are
a little more firm in who they are, and like
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you and I both can kind of adapt in certain situations.
It doesn't mean we don't know who we are. It
just means we're more adaptable. I guess that would be
the way to say it. So anyway, with that said, though,
it's taken me a little bit longer to truly discover
who I believe is my most authentic self. And I
do feel like I'm living that way now, but I
had to go through a lot of twist and turns,
(19:59):
a lot of like heartbreak. You know, it always comes
after struggle to me that I get more clarity, or
I get to the place of my more true self,
or I'm fighting for Okay, hey, that's not working like
what we're talking about, and I'm going to rebuild it
in this way. And I think that's all that rebranding is.
But I actually think what the disservice of our world
(20:20):
is is like that, to me, is a beautiful process,
and I think we need to praise that more. And
instead we put the labels on. You think you're stuck
in the labels, and then if you move from that,
it's like you're having a nervous breakdown or a mental
health crisis or an identity crisis or whatever, and it's
like that's actually not it. Like we're all here to
(20:40):
do this to rebrand, to restructure, to evolve. Think about
the guy in high school who is the quarterback who
never moves out of that persona and the whole rest
of their life is spent going God, the glory days
are like whatever. When you get to your yes and
when you get to your forties, you look at that
guy and you go, God, it's really kind of sad,
(21:00):
isn't it. He's never grown out of that person or
that version of himself, and it just doesn't it doesn't
look the same, Like it's just not cute, you know,
Like it's just not a good look anymore. So even
if you were that great thing in high school, even
that becomes tainted if you don't grow out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean it becomes it becomes like a
not a crutch, but like almost an anchor that you're dragging. Yeah,
it really is, like by not being able to let
go of it. He's not that I say he like we're.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Talking about specific It could be yeah, anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But by by not letting go of it, you are
tying your energy to that versus opening yourself up for
new opportunities to come into your life.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Also making yourself be one note and like nobody is
one note. We're all super layered and complex, so you're
really doing yourself the biggest of service.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
One I listened was listening to a podcast today in fact,
and I wanted to mention it. It was our girl
mel robbinscast Well. She was interviewing this woman named doctor
Julie Smith, and they were talking about the fact that
(22:16):
like life is a series of things of the unexpected,
Like yeah, and we can't control the unexpected. It's things
that happened to us, and it's life is so much
more beautiful when you were open to the unexpected than
being fearful of it, because when you're fearful of it
and you resist change, you end up stuck. Whereas if
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something unexpected comes and you can evaluate it with an
open mind and an open heart, then you can take advantage.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Of what that is.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
And they even gave examples of like I mean, doctor
Julie Smith found out that she had cancer and she
was like, you know, the moment you find out that
you have cancer, like you have a million questions flood
in your head. What's going to happen with your kids?
You know, what's going to happen with my clients. How
sick am I going to get? Like you don't get
all of those answers right away, so obviously you're flooded
with fear and questioned. But she also saw it as
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an opportunity to look at her life and be like,
this cancer is not coming for me. I'm coming for it.
And she saw this unexpected thing that gave her this
like predator versus prey mentality, and she beat it, you know,
like and she's like, that's one example. There's always going
to be things that are being thrown our way that
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are big or small, and sometimes the most unexpected thing
turns out to be one of the most beautiful life
lessons that you could ever have. Or it's meeting the
person at the coffee shop that you end up marrying,
you know, and having the bravery to be like, oh,
your shoes untied and that could be the one comment
that like connects you. And so you know that evolution
(23:59):
is like we don't have to think about it in
terms of like this big like oh I have to change,
like I need to grow and be super special. No,
it can be as simple as just being open to
the world, what the world is bringing you, And I
think it is with a positive Yeah, it's it really
is that simple and approaching that with openness and positivity
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and those sorts of things, because I mean, I just
feel like the world teaches us lessons every day even today.
The fact that, like this is the topic that Kelly
hit me with after I just listened to that, like
that is.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
The universe doing some weird ship.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Also, do you not feel like you are in the
process of a rebrand right now?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Like I mean a media with a butterfly you know.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, Like immediately when I started thinking about this, I thought,
this is going to be really easy for Chip to
talk about because everything that you're doing in your life
in general feels like you're living that out right now.
And I mean, I do think it came from you
realize and finally getting honest with yourself that you weren't
happy with the way things were going in our life,
Like you weren't happy with how you were having relationships,
(25:07):
you weren't happy with how you felt and looked in
your body, like all of those things happened first. And
so yes, I do believe that it is about just
showing up and being open. But I also think it's
about allowing ourselves the space to just be honest, like,
which is way harder than you would think it is
to say to yourself like, yeah, I'm not happy, like
(25:29):
I'm not happy in this job anymore. And I've been
doing it. I've been doing it my whole adult life,
so the thought of leaving is you know, very scary
and also yeah, yes, but also if it's like, Okay,
if I suffer for ten more years, then I could retire,
And it's like those are the things for you to
weigh in your life of whether that's worth it or not.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm getting to this place of I really think the
universe is asking us to really get into alignment with
our soul, not just what we should do, you know,
like shoulting all over ourselves all the time, of like
I should be going to this, I should be working
this hard, like the world is changing and so I
think we can too, and really asking yourself like if
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all the things that you're doing in your life are
truly what you want and are in alignment with who
you are now, like not who you were ten years ago,
but who you are now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And I don't know or who like it's also I
mean it's funny because they talked about this on that
podcast too. It's like focusing on the past creates stress, Okay,
focusing on the future creates anxiety.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, it'd be present. So it's so.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Much better to focus on the present because it's truly
the only thing that you have. Like, yeah, your past
is in your past. It's always going to follow you,
but it doesn't have to define you because you have
done things to evolve into this moment.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'm smiling so hard because if you knew how many
times Marv said that in relation to the astrology, like
you're very look at you just rebranding right into alignment
right now, You're like a psychic over there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, I also wanted to read this.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
This is something that she said, and I mean it's
Julie said that she put it on a post it
note for herself and would read it every day. I
think it's these are really powerful world words. Get busy
with life's purpose, toss aside empty hopes, get active in
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your own rescue if you care for yourself at all,
and do it while you can, because a lot of
times we wait for that moment. You know, hers was finance,
she had breast cancer or whatever. We wait for that
moment where we're like, fuck, I've got to like take
care of myself, and it's oftentimes too late, you know.
So I love what you said, like we should have
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all over ourselves, which is funny.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
We should stop shutting all over our should I just
have a mentor I would say that that sounds like
a lot of shitting on yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
But you know the thing is is, like we do,
we put that pressure on ourselves. So those false hopes,
those empty hopes, like I should be really rich, I
should own a g wagon, I should get to vacation
as much as everyone else. Like, you have to let
go of those false things because that's just a narrative
that you're telling yourself, right, trust me, if you really
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wanted to be on vacation all the time, you could
figure out a way.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
To do that. You know, you could be a digital
nomad and work from anywhere.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You just figure out the job that you need to
have to do that, Like it is, people are doing
it every day.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, it's just not the path that I happen to choose.
But I also don't think that I need to be
on vacation every day.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, I think a lot of the examples you just
gave to are the things where we start comparing our
lives to other peoples. And Marvin and I were talking about
this a little bit too, because even the labels of
good and bad, like you just said, being on vacation
all the time. But let's let's say the goal is
to be on a specific vacation because everyone that your
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kid goes to school with is going to that certain place,
and that just means that your life is in line
if you can be on that same vacation. Like, that's
something I see a lot of and I used to
put that pressure on myself too, or like for a
lot of girls, the conversation I have is being married
by a certain age or having a kid by a
certain age, and you know, or like at all or
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all these pressures that we feel. And for me, a
lot of that got dissolved whenever it wouldn't work it
didn't work out, you know, Like I had a broken
engagement when I turned thirty. Then I had fertility problems
and I couldn't even freeze my eggs, and then it
was like, oh my god, if I can't do these things,
(29:42):
How am I ever going to be successful? Like, the
truth is, it killed my self esteem because all of
a sudden, I just felt like I wasn't even a
full woman, if that makes sense, Like I couldn't do
the things I was supposed to be doing. But what
it brought me to was this path of really going
after or what my soul was here to do. And
that's when I got so into astrology. That's when I
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got so into a lot of the spiritual practices that
I do now. I mean, I had been on a
healing journey anyway. I guess I hate using that word
now because one of those things we talked about last
week it's so overused, but I really had been like, sorry,
well you should set a boundary with me. Then if
(30:25):
you guys have no clue we're talking about, go listen
to last week's past. But yeah, I just like I mean,
when I got the broken engagement happened, I knew something
had to change in my relationship. So I started really
hardcore therapy and that was what I needed to do
at the time, and all of that helped me get
on this path that I'm on now, where it's really
about me knowing me and knowing what my soul is
(30:46):
here to do. And just because I couldn't do those
things like that I had labeled so bad that it
didn't work out, it actually ultimately ended up being the
best things in my life because they've drawn me into
this place where I know myself and am living in
a more authentic life for me than I think I
ever could have been had I not faced that stuff
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or had that stuff worked out.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Like what if it had worked out, I.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Don't know, But we traveled back and forth to Charleston.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I wouldn't be probably doing this podcast, oh you know.
And like my soul just had different plans for this
lifetime and that's okay. Like I think we need to
make a space for everyone to be on their own
journey that we haven't quite created yet, and that's what
I want to start. Like these conversations. I hope that
they start developing because of that, because no one should
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feel bad because their life didn't work out a certain way,
or no one should feel stuck or that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
That doesn't look like someone else's life too exactly comparison
I think is it's part of the human existence. It's
a natural thing that we're going to do. But I
think you also, like when you when you're comparing yourself
to someone, you have to have a realistic comparison. Like
I'm never going to be one of the biggest, most
important people.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
In the music business.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
That doesn't mean that I can't be a great manager
and I can't make a great living doing what I'm doing.
But like my boss owns a company that has acquired
hundreds of other managers. He's like very invested in real estate.
I want to have a lot more fun in my life.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Than that, you know what I mean? Like his he
loves to work.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I can never compare myself to that, like that is
just not the journey that I'm going to be on.
But I can look at another manager and be like,
oh wow, they have three clients. They focus on that
only they have a great work life balance. I can
see myself in those shoes. And then that's where comparison
becomes really healthy, because it gives me a roadmap for
what I want.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
To achieve that feels realistic me.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
So, you know, I think it's dangerous to say and
don't compare, because there is healthy comparison, and it's also
a very natural thing to want to do, but you
just have to be realistic, Like well.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's just that goes back to what I was just saying,
though everyone is truly on their own journe for a
certain reason. Like what I believe is that our souls
come to each lifetime wanting to learn certain lessons. So
you can't go to each lifetime as the same version
of a human and learn anything, Like you literally have
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to be a different kind of person, Like I'm sure
we've both been I've been boys, and you know, like
I've been a mom, I've been a dad, I've been
a son, I've been a daughter, like all the different
versions in different places and in different life or like world,
like different religions, all the things. Like I do believe
(33:38):
that whether you believe that or not, but that is
what I believe. And so if you look at life
through that lens, then it's like everything that happens becomes
part of what is this here to teach me? And
how does this help me grow? And that sucks when
you're in it sometimes because the hardship you just are
like how did I deserve this? But if you think
about your like my soul chose this before I got here,
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because it wanted the lessons around this nothing feels like
it couldn't produce some good. Like it doesn't have to
be bad, like we always say. I mean a lot
of things are and they're painful, and that's just the world.
That's just life. Life be life. And remember Blessing taught
us that.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, But like he's.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
The perfect example, my client Blessing offer. You know, he
lost his eyesight and he came to this world with
impaired vision, but he had a little bit of vision
and then lost it on a freak accident, and he
has somehow spun that into the most positive Is he
not the most positive you've ever met?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He's the embodiment of joy truly.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, And it's just like of all people who could
be bitter and resentful and all of the things, and
he's not. He literally takes it and he's like, but
I still have this gift of music and he's an
amazing musician, And like, he's taught me so much about
taking any sort of hardship you're faced with and trying
to find the positive to use it for good some where.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And this is a little.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Off the rebranding thing, but I think it ties together
in that when you're in the hardships of life, it
becomes like overwhelming or difficult, and the pain feels too
big to think about what it's here to teach you.
But if you try to change your mentality, once you
move through the emotions to what it is to teach you,
it can rebrand you into a better version of yourself
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every time.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Right, I mean, look, a lot of people get really
stuck in the hardship this is life is unfair? Why
is this happening to me?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I don't know what I'm going to do? All those
questions that.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
You might ask yourself, But if you can look at
it and be like, wait, why is this happening to me?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Like those are real questions. Find the answers to them.
Don't just sit there and ask the questions. Find the answers.
And that's where the rebrand happens. And granted, life does life,
and some things work out in sadness, and I mean,
or are unfair. But or we die, we all die,
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you know, and that is ultimately we're all going to
be faced with that mortality. And it's it's not something
that we can escape or change or evolve from. But
I believe in the soul journey too, and some souls
aren't meant to be here that long. They came for
a very specific purpose. They learned it, they're gone. They'll
be back.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Armed with more knowledge next time.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
But I do think like instead of wallowing those questions,
find the answers to them, and that's where the rebrand happens.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, I think it just like we kind of digressed obviously,
but like the truth being, it's it's getting rid of labels.
It's like the good and the bad, like these are
the things that I'm learning. It's definitely not the way
I've lived my life always and because of it, I
think some of the things that I went through, I
struggled through them more then at this point maybe how
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I would handle certain situations, because, like you said, I
got a little stuck in some stuff. And I think
that that's important to move through emotions. I mean, of
all people in your life, and you know, I'm going
to say, like you've got to feel the feelings. I
think that that is such an important process. But I
do think my mentality now of being like more curious
than like, oh my god, this thing happened, this loss
(37:16):
happened that fell apart, and labeling it as bad has
made me be like, Okay, why did that fall apart?
What's the universe trying to show me? There's obviously a
redirection happening, and a lot of times the losses in
my life have been necessary because I had just gotten
off the path that I'm supposed to be on, and
I could not have shown up in the way that
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I'm able to show up on the right path on
those paths because they weren't for me. They just really weren't.
So anyway, I think the moral of all of this
story is to just like maybe get curious, and I
think right now is a very good time based on
the astrology specifically, but also just energetically, even if you
don't believe in any of that stuff and you're just
(37:58):
looking at the chaos of this world, it is happening,
Like there is change happening. We're never going to go
back to how we were. So if you're looking at
your life and thinking I don't like this, I'm unhappy
with this, or maybe just like taking a pause and
looking at your life and asking are you happy? And
overall like are things working? This seems like the good
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time to do it, and if it's not, start to
look at how you could make changes. You don't have
to do it overnight, but like that would be the challenge,
I would say to the listeners and to me in youtub,
just like where in our lives do we feel like
maybe things are ready to shift or change or they're
not working the way they used to? So what would
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be another option? I don't know that I said that
any of that really great, but do you guys get
the picture?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Stop being the backup dancer in your life?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Oh look at you? Was that Mel Robbins or.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
No, that was your friend Chat.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm noticed seeing how much progressively
more tan.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I've gone your arm literally real wow that you all.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Have to go to you have to go to and
see her arm.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I mean I should we should have done it like
a before and after. I mean just rewind now to
the beginning of this podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
A dead over the arm.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Anyway, I need to go shower. This off is what
I think the universe is telling.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Your man's not going to recognize you.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
He's gonna be like babe.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Anyway, Like Chip mentioned, we have been putting these podcasts
on YouTube, so I will put that in the description
of this podcast the link for that. If you guys
can go check that out and see my tan. You
can always email us at the Edge at velvetedge dot
com or hit me up on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip, I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
At chip door, should ch I, P, D O R
S C H.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
And as you guys go into the weekend and you're
living on the edge, I hope you always remember too a.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Casual well bob
Speaker 1 (40:01):
By mm hm
How do you feel about the level of tan that
I am the lord?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I thought I was zooming with tam Mom.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Mom is on this goal. I feel it's so funny.
I'm looking at me in the zoom thing right now.
When your tan, your teeth looks so much wider.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You really do.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeah, not that you need this, but the reason why
I love being tan is because it makes you thinner.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You feel like it makes everybody just look better.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Just yeah, you just look better, but like it definitely
if you have like weight on your body, it makes
you look thinner. There used to be on Church Street
in Nashville there was like a tanning salona that had
a billboard, like the kind of you can change the letters.
I don't know, a Marquee kind of thing. Okay said
tan fat looks better than skinny fat.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's true though, I mean true, Like everybody, even though
I am slimmer whatever, I still feel like my body
looks totally different. Like I look like I have more muscles,
every things, more tone, more tight.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
If I have a tan, yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Is a I mean I wonder if it just creates
like shadows too, you know, contouring.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's just a little bit of coverage too.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I'm going to Charleston this weekend and it's warm
and I'm going to see my man.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I want it to look good.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Me.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I need a little spray tans I got the rapid
tan and if you look, it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Like a polaroid like developing right in my eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
On the end of this podcast, you're I mean, I'm
gonna be so dark, so dark, but then I'll look
amazing about tonight, so.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You'd be so skinny, I won't see you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Do you remember the days of tanning beds? I feel
like we've talked about this in the podcast before, but
did you go to the tanning bed?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, I can still remember the smell, you know, like
of your skin cooking. But I mean I lived in
Los Angeles and I had a membership in a tanning
bed like there was because you could go and like
on my lunch break, I'd get fifteen minutes of tan
in and I loved it, Like it just made me.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It would go for.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Ten or fifteen minutes and me a totally different color.
Just shows how bad it is. I'm sure right, like
it cannot. I actually don't think spray tanning is probably
that great either, But I do it every you know, sporadically,
and sometimes you're just like I need.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The little help, you need a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
But do you remember how we used to I used
to put like stickers on, like the Buddy line or something, yeah,
playboy Bunny or like a heart or a star or whatever.
I thought that was so bad. Like when I was
in high school.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I thought I was a girl. No body when I
would go do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I remember, I can't even remember why I was there.
It must have been for a birthday party or something.
But okay, this was years ago in Los Angeles. We
went to Lance Bass's house. He had a room with
a tanning bed in it, and.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I was, I was.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think the story was the I think he had
just bought the house and it was already there.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, but he kept it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But he kept it like it had not been removed yet.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Was this pre in sync, during in sync or.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Post host in sync?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay, say, if he's in a boy Man and he
still had those frosted tips, he for sure would need
that tanning bed.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He would need a tanning bed.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was definitely post and sync, but it was before
he got married, so he was still single at the time,
but I also remember the only two things I remember
about his house was well three things kind of where
it was, Yeah, the tanning bed and we found his
MTV moon Man and we all like we're.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Taking shoot, Yeah, giving sun little story.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
This is kind of an interesting transition though, because we
just talked about like our tanning bed days. Obviously I've
transitioned into spray tanning, so this is a big one.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
This is You're transitioning into tan mom right now.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm currently transitioning into tan mom.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
So a lot of rebranding happening for me, and I
was telling you about I did a podcast on Wednesday
with master astrologer Marvin Wilgerson. He was telling me about
what will have been the I'm trying to do time
here when I recorded with Marv the eclipse the areas
eclipse happening that weekend, and it's also happening. It's happening
(04:03):
tomorrow based on when you and I are recording. But
people are gonna be hearing this the week after it happens.
Not that this matters to you, guys, but I'm just
telling you anyway so we can all be on the
same page. But he was telling me about the eclipse,
the areas eclipse, and the whole thing that's happening right
now astrologically, energetically. I'm sure you guys are feeling this
(04:23):
in some way, shape or form. In the world in general.
Is things are being broken down so that we can
rebuild them.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Basically, like everything bring.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Kind of but like this is on a much bigger
scale than what we usually feel each year. It's on
the scale of this hasn't happened since eighteen, like eighty
six kind of thing, this kind of astrology, Like I
think this eclipse the last time it happened in Arias,
this specific one happened the day after the Civil War started.
(04:54):
So if that gives you kind of the vibe of
where we are, it's very much like we're fed up
with the way things are going. We're going to fight
for what we believe in, whatever that looks like now,
Like it's not going to look exactly like the Civil
War looked like, and it's not just happening in America,
Like Marv made a point to be like, this is
happening in the world, but his whole point on a
(05:14):
personal level too, and on a personal level, like We're
all in this place.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Whether you feel it, don't feel it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
When I acknowledge it or not acknowledge it, it is happening.
We're all in this place of kind of reevaluating the
things in our lives that don't work, the relationships that
don't work, the jobs that don't work, the.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Narratives in our head.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Like it could be whatever it is in your life
that feels like it's run its course and is misaligned,
it's probably going to break down right now, but that
is for it to be rebuilt and rebranded into something
more aligned with you better and overall that like just
functions better. So it can sound really scary, but it's
(05:59):
actually like, Okay, once we get through the hardship of it,
it's going to be really cool to.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
See chang changes what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, because I.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Think we're seeing like there's a lot of things that
aren't working. Specifically, if we're going to the United States,
like you could go to the healthcare system, you could
go to our food system, you could look at our
government like it ain't working anymore. We got to figure
something else out.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So Yeah, anyway, all that to say is that was
the Astrology podcast this week, and you guys know the
new thing we do is on Friday podcast we talk
about what we did on the Wednesday podcast and a lighter,
more tangible, more day to day vibe. And so Chip
and I were like, well, should we talk about rebranding then,
because some transition. Yeah, we've both gone through some rebrands.
(06:45):
When we first started talking about it, I said, the
immediate thought I had was you with a perm?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
The funny thing about that perm is I dreamt of
that for so long. I was actually born with curly hair. Interesting,
my mom has curly hair. Grandmother, my mom's mom was
a hairdresser. Yeah, and my sister has like who is older.
She was almost two years old when I was born.
She always had like pin straight hair, and I come
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with a curly head of hair, and my grandmother he
cursed the heavens.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
She was like, how could you do this?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Give this beautiful head of hair to a boy instead
of the girl? And three days later my hair was straight.
So I've always had this aching for curly hair. And
I found somebody that would do an organic perm in Nashville,
and I had a perm for a few years. You
really beautiful as I dreamt it would me like I like,
I look at pictures now and I'm like, what was
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I thinking?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But in the moment I loved it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, And I feel like your hair in general has
been a source of rebranding for you, like you change
your hair when you're changing your life every single time.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I was blonde for a while, I used to cut
my own hair a because I was broken cheap, but
I thought I was doing a great job and not like.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You look broke with that haircut.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And I remember I was at the Hollywood Bowl because
now my hair I do it like up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I was at the Hollywood Bowl seeing Mary J.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Blige and Jay Z that was the tour, and this
stranger sitting next to me was like, you have this.
It was a woman, and she just said, you have
really beautiful eyes. Why do you cover him up with
all that hair? And at the time, I was dating
a guy named Mark who was a hairdresser, and I
said something I was I told him that night afterwards,
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and he goes, I've thought the same thing, but he was.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Like, as your boyfriend, I can't be like, let me
face so true.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And also Mark is like a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Stylus, celebrity hair person, kill hairstylist, there is yes.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And so he still refused to do my hair and
he got his girl, his best friend, Aviva, did it,
and he was like, this is what you should do.
And he told me about like this is the shape
of my head. He was like, this is why you
need to do these things, like blah blah blah. And
it was like stuff that like the average person would
never know. And probably honestly, most you know, of the
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hair people that I could afford.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
At the time didn't know either.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No either, Yeah, and by that I mean myself, because
I was right.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I love that he wouldn't cut yours. My boyfriend and
I talk about this all the time. I'm like, he
asked me for fashion advice, so ask me for hair advice,
or like obviously I could cut his hair for him,
like shape it up, all that stuff, and I just
don't ever feel comfortable doing it for my boyfriends.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And like I'll give fashion advice a.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Little bit, but like it always feels like it's on
the what's the word precipice of bringing up a fight if.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I could could be a fight, yeah, yeah, Like it's.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Just building up to something because you don't want to
insult anyone. You want your person to feel like they're
amazing anyway, and obviously like I think he's so hot already.
It's not like I feel like he needs to change
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Do I When he pulls all the cargo shorts, you
got to be like, oh, I mean I I draw
the line a cargo short.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't know they're back in style. Actually that's not
really where I would draw.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I think.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I yeah, I have drawn lines on hats like that
is one thing. I'm just like, yeah, that was not
that's just not very current, you know. And I'll give feedback,
but it is a fine line you have to walk
when you're in a relationship with someone and this is
your job.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, I think if they're asking for advice, that's true,
just for you just to be like nice true religions,
like but I can't.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We just that couldn't be dating him probably if that
was his style.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Luckily he has really got it out.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, anyway, all of this is to say, it really
got me thinking about rebranding because as we're talking about
we're talking about like the external things obviously and physical
changes that we make throughout life. I feel like I'm
in a rebrand of like aging right now, and if not,
it's not of choice, but I am aging, and I'm
having to go through what is my new vibe going
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to be? What is you know, good for my face?
At this point, the things that we're working in the
past are not working now. That's the physical rebrand. But
it's really interesting when I start thinking about what's happening
on a bigger scale, like what we just talked about
with Marv and also just like what rebranding is in general.
I actually think it's kind of the point of life.
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Like I was when we and I were talking about
this topic. At first, I said to you, I just
really think that rebranding, to me is more about self discovery, growth, evolution,
and leaning into the fact that we're constantly changing and
we're supposed to like that's to me, the entire point
of life. But often we do kind of miss that,
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you know. It's like we've been programmed to think you
get to a certain age, you figure certain things out,
and then you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Just exist like that is it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And it's so it's like false advertising of what life
is actually about, or.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
You get peggeda something like you're the funny guy, you're
the fat person one, you're the sensitive one. You know,
you're the athlete, and you feel like it is a
rule and all of the things. Those things could very
well be a very true piece of your identity. But
it's a piece of your identity. But it can be
very scary if you're the athlete who actually dreamt of
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wanting to be an actor, and now all your athlete
friends are like, all right, you pansy, like no dance ballet,
you know, but you're like, if it's something that your
soul is telling you that you want to try. I
think it's really important to fight through the fear of
what other people's perceptions are of you, because the truth
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is it's just you figuring you out, and you like
every little change allows you to grow and meet yourself
where yourself is in that moment.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know. It's funny. After we were talking about it,
I wrote down a few things like I was like,
what are some of the things.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
That I've done that that's like kind of scaring me
that like I don't even know where they fit in
my life. But like when I lived in New York,
I took guitar lessons, and I was like, I want
to do an open mic and I recorded it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I took it in the office to play for my boss.
I don't know why I did that.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
That's the scariest part. And she was like, why are
you doing this? And I was like, I think I'm
doing it because I want to like know that I
don't have to be scared. Because it was mortifying to
do because I also was I'm not a good guitar player, right,
you know, and I like sang an original song. It
was like mortifying. But then I in La I did
the ground wings. I just finished a four week class
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on stand up writing in Nashville, and I have zero
desire to be a stand up comment zero.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But I think it's just one of those things.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Where it's like I allow my curiosity to guide me sometimes,
and I think that there are benefits to these things
that are beyond what the actual thing is.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, well, I hear that you're just challenging yourself to
keep evolving or trying new things, seeing what you're interested in,
and not just saying stuck in one version of yourself
for the rest of your life, right, which we were
talking about this in terms of successful musicians, And I
gave the example of Dolly Parton because obviously, like I
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think it's really important to have core values and like
who you are in your wiring is probably going to
stay the same. But I don't think a lot of
us even know who we are until later in life,
and so we're just trying on these different versions of
ourselves to see kind of what feels right, and that's
the part that changes, I think, and if you don't
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allow room for that change is when you get stuck.
But like a person like Dolly, for instance, Dolly is
Dolly Parton obviously, like she's always the same, She's you know,
amazingly epic, She's always going to have the big boob
she has. Her branding is like the same across the board.
But what I've seen her do and the reason I
think she's still relevant is because she evolves in her
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process what she is doing, even like musically, Like think
about all the collaborations she's done this year. It's with
people like Miley Cyrus or she did a rock album.
You know, like she's constantly challenging herself and pushing the barriers,
but also paying attention to what society is doing like
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social media or who's hip in a hot right now,
and she collaborates with them, you know, and so at
the end of.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The Carpenter Yeah, also just did that.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
With Sabriena Carpenter. And it's like Madonna did a really
good job of this for a long time. Like all
of the artists that I think have maintained really long
term careers.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Are really good at.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Evolving, rebranding themselves. Like even Beyonce. People love or hate Beyonce,
but like, think about that album she did when jay
Z cheated on her. That was a rebrand from this
like super sweet Beyonce pop artist that we had known forever.
She's throwing shit, She's like, who the fuck do you
think I am?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, like, yeah, we got to see the anger.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Exactly, and without that it becomes very uninteresting. If you
ask me, like to hear the.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Same album over and over. Yeah, but I think you break.
Like you bring up a really.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Essential point is the core values. If you look at Dolly,
like she approaches everything with kindness, She approaches everything with humor, right,
I mean, even like when you look at like the
musicals she's written and the movies that she starret in
like she has there. There's always like a very distinctly
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Dolly thing.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I remember reading she owns.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Dollywood obviously in Pigeon Forge and severe Real wherever it is.
And her manager at the time when she bought it,
and she bought it for nothing, it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Was like an old six flags.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think that she was like it was falling into
you know, debt or disrepair or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I think it's like twenty million dollars, which is a
lot of money for Dolly. That's not a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, that's like.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Her manager and her thought about it because he thought
it was the dumbest thing that she'd ever done. And
her motivation for buying it was to give her family jobs.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And she fired her manager over the arguments because her
manager at the time could not see past the fact
that she had just spent twenty million dollars on the
theme park. The first year that she rebranded it and
had it opened, it made like thirty five million dollars the.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
First year, right, and it's still strong.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, and it's going strong, and it's like it's probably
making a lot more than that. But like the fact
is is that her guiding principle was kindness. It wasn't
about money to her, like right, general family, like her
family grew up in the mountains and a lot of
them can't read, you know, like what do you do, right,
give the jobs that don't require that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So it's also not just giving them money, which I
really like. Oh, it's not like a charity. It's like, hey,
here's an opportunity exactly, and let me create that I have.
I've been given this stuff. I have this gift, whatever
it is, and then being very generous with it, but
in a way that like also would give people their
own self esteem and their own sense of self worth
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and discovery and all the things we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, and on top of it, she like sprinkled her
Dolly fairy dust on it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And it's this magical place that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Like I love Dollar Waight.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So it's my favorite theme park in America. Like it's
I would go there every weekend if it was close enough.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah. Fun.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So yeah, the core value thing, really, I think is
an important thing to point out.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Right, That's a tricky one because I do think that's
really important. And then I also think I can just
just looking at my life as I think why I'm
saying this, I do think my core values have ultimately
always been the same. I'm not sure they've always been
as clear to me like as they are right now.
And so I think when I was younger, there were
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moments where I was trying on different identities almost And
you and I have Pisce's moon, so that's very typical
of that if you guys want to get astrology on that.
But yeah, if you have any sort of Pisces in
your chart, you're kind of operating through life in like
a dreamlike state a lot of times in your younger life.
And we can also kind of meld into the environment
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we're in. Like when I'm with certain friends, I'm laughing,
I'm joking on whatever. If I'm with other friends, we're
serious and we're like. I have a lot of diff
of range. I guess all of it is my personality,
but different things bring out different things in me. And
I think a lot of people who don't have these
kind of parts of their chart their astrology chart are
a little more firm in who they are, and like
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you and I both can kind of adapt in certain situations.
It doesn't mean we don't know who we are. It
just means we're more adaptable. I guess that would be
the way to say it. So anyway, with that said, though,
it's taken me a little bit longer to truly discover
who I believe is my most authentic self. And I
do feel like I'm living that way now, but I
had to go through a lot of twist and turns,
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a lot of like heartbreak. You know, it always comes
after struggle to me that I get more clarity, or
I get to the place of my more true self,
or I'm fighting for Okay, hey, that's not working like
what we're talking about, and I'm going to rebuild it
in this way. And I think that's all that rebranding is.
But I actually think what the disservice of our world
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is is like that, to me, is a beautiful process,
and I think we need to praise that more. And
instead we put the labels on. You think you're stuck
in the labels, and then if you move from that,
it's like you're having a nervous breakdown or a mental
health crisis or an identity crisis or whatever, and it's
like that's actually not it. Like we're all here to
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do this to rebrand, to restructure, to evolve. Think about
the guy in high school who is the quarterback who
never moves out of that persona and the whole rest
of their life is spent going God, the glory days
are like whatever. When you get to your yes and
when you get to your forties, you look at that
guy and you go, God, it's really kind of sad,
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isn't it. He's never grown out of that person or
that version of himself, and it just doesn't it doesn't
look the same, Like it's just not cute, you know,
Like it's just not a good look anymore. So even
if you were that great thing in high school, even
that becomes tainted if you don't grow out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean it becomes it becomes like a
not a crutch, but like almost an anchor that you're dragging. Yeah,
it really is, like by not being able to let
go of it. He's not that I say he like we're.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Talking about specific It could be yeah, anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But by by not letting go of it, you are
tying your energy to that versus opening yourself up for
new opportunities to come into your life.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Also making yourself be one note and like nobody is
one note. We're all super layered and complex, so you're
really doing yourself the biggest of service.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
One I listened was listening to a podcast today in fact,
and I wanted to mention it. It was our girl
mel robbinscast Well. She was interviewing this woman named doctor
Julie Smith, and they were talking about the fact that
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like life is a series of things of the unexpected,
Like yeah, and we can't control the unexpected. It's things
that happened to us, and it's life is so much
more beautiful when you were open to the unexpected than
being fearful of it, because when you're fearful of it
and you resist change, you end up stuck. Whereas if
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something unexpected comes and you can evaluate it with an
open mind and an open heart, then you can take advantage.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Of what that is.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
And they even gave examples of like I mean, doctor
Julie Smith found out that she had cancer and she
was like, you know, the moment you find out that
you have cancer, like you have a million questions flood
in your head. What's going to happen with your kids?
You know, what's going to happen with my clients. How
sick am I going to get? Like you don't get
all of those answers right away, so obviously you're flooded
with fear and questioned. But she also saw it as
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an opportunity to look at her life and be like,
this cancer is not coming for me. I'm coming for it.
And she saw this unexpected thing that gave her this
like predator versus prey mentality, and she beat it, you know,
like and she's like, that's one example. There's always going
to be things that are being thrown our way that
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are big or small, and sometimes the most unexpected thing
turns out to be one of the most beautiful life
lessons that you could ever have. Or it's meeting the
person at the coffee shop that you end up marrying,
you know, and having the bravery to be like, oh,
your shoes untied and that could be the one comment
that like connects you. And so you know that evolution
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is like we don't have to think about it in
terms of like this big like oh I have to change,
like I need to grow and be super special. No,
it can be as simple as just being open to
the world, what the world is bringing you, And I
think it is with a positive Yeah, it's it really
is that simple and approaching that with openness and positivity
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and those sorts of things, because I mean, I just
feel like the world teaches us lessons every day even today.
The fact that, like this is the topic that Kelly
hit me with after I just listened to that, like
that is.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
The universe doing some weird ship.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Also, do you not feel like you are in the
process of a rebrand right now?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Like I mean a media with a butterfly you know.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, Like immediately when I started thinking about this, I thought,
this is going to be really easy for Chip to
talk about because everything that you're doing in your life
in general feels like you're living that out right now.
And I mean, I do think it came from you
realize and finally getting honest with yourself that you weren't
happy with the way things were going in our life,
Like you weren't happy with how you were having relationships,
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you weren't happy with how you felt and looked in
your body, like all of those things happened first. And
so yes, I do believe that it is about just
showing up and being open. But I also think it's
about allowing ourselves the space to just be honest, like,
which is way harder than you would think it is
to say to yourself like, yeah, I'm not happy, like
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I'm not happy in this job anymore. And I've been
doing it. I've been doing it my whole adult life,
so the thought of leaving is you know, very scary
and also yeah, yes, but also if it's like, Okay,
if I suffer for ten more years, then I could retire,
And it's like those are the things for you to
weigh in your life of whether that's worth it or not.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm getting to this place of I really think the
universe is asking us to really get into alignment with
our soul, not just what we should do, you know,
like shoulting all over ourselves all the time, of like
I should be going to this, I should be working
this hard, like the world is changing and so I
think we can too, and really asking yourself like if
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all the things that you're doing in your life are
truly what you want and are in alignment with who
you are now, like not who you were ten years ago,
but who you are now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And I don't know or who like it's also I
mean it's funny because they talked about this on that
podcast too. It's like focusing on the past creates stress, Okay,
focusing on the future creates anxiety.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, it'd be present. So it's so.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Much better to focus on the present because it's truly
the only thing that you have. Like, yeah, your past
is in your past. It's always going to follow you,
but it doesn't have to define you because you have
done things to evolve into this moment.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'm smiling so hard because if you knew how many
times Marv said that in relation to the astrology, like
you're very look at you just rebranding right into alignment
right now, You're like a psychic over there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Well, I also wanted to read this.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
This is something that she said, and I mean it's
Julie said that she put it on a post it
note for herself and would read it every day. I
think it's these are really powerful world words. Get busy
with life's purpose, toss aside empty hopes, get active in
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your own rescue if you care for yourself at all,
and do it while you can, because a lot of
times we wait for that moment. You know, hers was finance,
she had breast cancer or whatever. We wait for that
moment where we're like, fuck, I've got to like take
care of myself, and it's oftentimes too late, you know.
So I love what you said, like we should have
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all over ourselves, which is funny.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
We should stop shutting all over our should I just
have a mentor I would say that that sounds like
a lot of shitting on yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
But you know the thing is is, like we do,
we put that pressure on ourselves. So those false hopes,
those empty hopes, like I should be really rich, I
should own a g wagon, I should get to vacation
as much as everyone else. Like, you have to let
go of those false things because that's just a narrative
that you're telling yourself, right, trust me, if you really
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wanted to be on vacation all the time, you could
figure out a way.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
To do that. You know, you could be a digital
nomad and work from anywhere.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You just figure out the job that you need to
have to do that, Like it is, people are doing
it every day.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, it's just not the path that I happen to choose.
But I also don't think that I need to be
on vacation every day.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, I think a lot of the examples you just
gave to are the things where we start comparing our
lives to other peoples. And Marvin and I were talking about
this a little bit too, because even the labels of
good and bad, like you just said, being on vacation
all the time. But let's let's say the goal is
to be on a specific vacation because everyone that your
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kid goes to school with is going to that certain place,
and that just means that your life is in line
if you can be on that same vacation. Like, that's
something I see a lot of and I used to
put that pressure on myself too, or like for a
lot of girls, the conversation I have is being married
by a certain age or having a kid by a
certain age, and you know, or like at all or
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all these pressures that we feel. And for me, a
lot of that got dissolved whenever it wouldn't work it
didn't work out, you know, Like I had a broken
engagement when I turned thirty. Then I had fertility problems
and I couldn't even freeze my eggs, and then it
was like, oh my god, if I can't do these things,
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How am I ever going to be successful? Like, the
truth is, it killed my self esteem because all of
a sudden, I just felt like I wasn't even a
full woman, if that makes sense, Like I couldn't do
the things I was supposed to be doing. But what
it brought me to was this path of really going
after or what my soul was here to do. And
that's when I got so into astrology. That's when I
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got so into a lot of the spiritual practices that
I do now. I mean, I had been on a
healing journey anyway. I guess I hate using that word
now because one of those things we talked about last
week it's so overused, but I really had been like, sorry,
well you should set a boundary with me. Then if
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you guys have no clue we're talking about, go listen
to last week's past. But yeah, I just like I mean,
when I got the broken engagement happened, I knew something
had to change in my relationship. So I started really
hardcore therapy and that was what I needed to do
at the time, and all of that helped me get
on this path that I'm on now, where it's really
about me knowing me and knowing what my soul is
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here to do. And just because I couldn't do those
things like that I had labeled so bad that it
didn't work out, it actually ultimately ended up being the
best things in my life because they've drawn me into
this place where I know myself and am living in
a more authentic life for me than I think I
ever could have been had I not faced that stuff
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or had that stuff worked out.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Like what if it had worked out, I.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Don't know, But we traveled back and forth to Charleston.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I wouldn't be probably doing this podcast, oh you know.
And like my soul just had different plans for this
lifetime and that's okay. Like I think we need to
make a space for everyone to be on their own
journey that we haven't quite created yet, and that's what
I want to start. Like these conversations. I hope that
they start developing because of that, because no one should
(31:34):
feel bad because their life didn't work out a certain way,
or no one should feel stuck or that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
That doesn't look like someone else's life too exactly comparison
I think is it's part of the human existence. It's
a natural thing that we're going to do. But I
think you also, like when you when you're comparing yourself
to someone, you have to have a realistic comparison. Like
I'm never going to be one of the biggest, most
important people.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
In the music business.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
That doesn't mean that I can't be a great manager
and I can't make a great living doing what I'm doing.
But like my boss owns a company that has acquired
hundreds of other managers. He's like very invested in real estate.
I want to have a lot more fun in my life.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Than that, you know what I mean? Like his he
loves to work.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I can never compare myself to that, like that is
just not the journey that I'm going to be on.
But I can look at another manager and be like,
oh wow, they have three clients. They focus on that
only they have a great work life balance. I can
see myself in those shoes. And then that's where comparison
becomes really healthy, because it gives me a roadmap for
what I want.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
To achieve that feels realistic me.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
So, you know, I think it's dangerous to say and
don't compare, because there is healthy comparison, and it's also
a very natural thing to want to do, but you
just have to be realistic, Like well.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's just that goes back to what I was just saying,
though everyone is truly on their own journe for a
certain reason. Like what I believe is that our souls
come to each lifetime wanting to learn certain lessons. So
you can't go to each lifetime as the same version
of a human and learn anything, Like you literally have
(33:16):
to be a different kind of person, Like I'm sure
we've both been I've been boys, and you know, like
I've been a mom, I've been a dad, I've been
a son, I've been a daughter, like all the different
versions in different places and in different life or like world,
like different religions, all the things. Like I do believe
(33:38):
that whether you believe that or not, but that is
what I believe. And so if you look at life
through that lens, then it's like everything that happens becomes
part of what is this here to teach me? And
how does this help me grow? And that sucks when
you're in it sometimes because the hardship you just are
like how did I deserve this? But if you think
about your like my soul chose this before I got here,
(34:00):
because it wanted the lessons around this nothing feels like
it couldn't produce some good. Like it doesn't have to
be bad, like we always say. I mean a lot
of things are and they're painful, and that's just the world.
That's just life. Life be life. And remember Blessing taught
us that.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, But like he's.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
The perfect example, my client Blessing offer. You know, he
lost his eyesight and he came to this world with
impaired vision, but he had a little bit of vision
and then lost it on a freak accident, and he
has somehow spun that into the most positive Is he
not the most positive you've ever met?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He's the embodiment of joy truly.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, And it's just like of all people who could
be bitter and resentful and all of the things, and
he's not. He literally takes it and he's like, but
I still have this gift of music and he's an
amazing musician, And like, he's taught me so much about
taking any sort of hardship you're faced with and trying
to find the positive to use it for good some where.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And this is a little.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Off the rebranding thing, but I think it ties together
in that when you're in the hardships of life, it
becomes like overwhelming or difficult, and the pain feels too
big to think about what it's here to teach you.
But if you try to change your mentality, once you
move through the emotions to what it is to teach you,
it can rebrand you into a better version of yourself
(35:24):
every time.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Right, I mean, look, a lot of people get really
stuck in the hardship this is life is unfair? Why
is this happening to me?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I don't know what I'm going to do? All those
questions that.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
You might ask yourself, But if you can look at
it and be like, wait, why is this happening to me?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Like those are real questions. Find the answers to them.
Don't just sit there and ask the questions. Find the answers.
And that's where the rebrand happens. And granted, life does life,
and some things work out in sadness, and I mean,
or are unfair. But or we die, we all die,
(36:04):
you know, and that is ultimately we're all going to
be faced with that mortality. And it's it's not something
that we can escape or change or evolve from. But
I believe in the soul journey too, and some souls
aren't meant to be here that long. They came for
a very specific purpose. They learned it, they're gone. They'll
be back.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Armed with more knowledge next time.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
But I do think like instead of wallowing those questions,
find the answers to them, and that's where the rebrand happens.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, I think it just like we kind of digressed obviously,
but like the truth being, it's it's getting rid of labels.
It's like the good and the bad, like these are
the things that I'm learning. It's definitely not the way
I've lived my life always and because of it, I
think some of the things that I went through, I
struggled through them more then at this point maybe how
(36:54):
I would handle certain situations, because, like you said, I
got a little stuck in some stuff. And I think
that that's important to move through emotions. I mean, of
all people in your life, and you know, I'm going
to say, like you've got to feel the feelings. I
think that that is such an important process. But I
do think my mentality now of being like more curious
than like, oh my god, this thing happened, this loss
(37:16):
happened that fell apart, and labeling it as bad has
made me be like, Okay, why did that fall apart?
What's the universe trying to show me? There's obviously a
redirection happening, and a lot of times the losses in
my life have been necessary because I had just gotten
off the path that I'm supposed to be on, and
I could not have shown up in the way that
(37:37):
I'm able to show up on the right path on
those paths because they weren't for me. They just really weren't.
So anyway, I think the moral of all of this
story is to just like maybe get curious, and I
think right now is a very good time based on
the astrology specifically, but also just energetically, even if you
don't believe in any of that stuff and you're just
(37:58):
looking at the chaos of this world, it is happening,
Like there is change happening. We're never going to go
back to how we were. So if you're looking at
your life and thinking I don't like this, I'm unhappy
with this, or maybe just like taking a pause and
looking at your life and asking are you happy? And
overall like are things working? This seems like the good
(38:20):
time to do it, and if it's not, start to
look at how you could make changes. You don't have
to do it overnight, but like that would be the challenge,
I would say to the listeners and to me in youtub,
just like where in our lives do we feel like
maybe things are ready to shift or change or they're
not working the way they used to? So what would
(38:42):
be another option? I don't know that I said that
any of that really great, but do you guys get
the picture?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Stop being the backup dancer in your life?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Oh look at you? Was that Mel Robbins or.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
No, that was your friend Chat.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm noticed seeing how much progressively
more tan.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I've gone your arm literally real wow that you all.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Have to go to you have to go to and
see her arm.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I mean I should we should have done it like
a before and after. I mean just rewind now to
the beginning of this podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
A dead over the arm.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Anyway, I need to go shower. This off is what
I think the universe is telling.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Your man's not going to recognize you.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
He's gonna be like babe.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Anyway, Like Chip mentioned, we have been putting these podcasts
on YouTube, so I will put that in the description
of this podcast the link for that. If you guys
can go check that out and see my tan. You
can always email us at the Edge at velvetedge dot
com or hit me up on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip, I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
At chip door, should ch I, P, D O R
S C H.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
And as you guys go into the weekend and you're
living on the edge, I hope you always remember too a.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Casual well bob
Speaker 1 (40:01):
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