Scorpio New Moon 2025: Standing in Truth and Taking Your Power Back with Kelly and Marv (The Velvet)
November 5, 2025 • 38 mins
Kelly and astrologer Marvin Wilkerson dive into the transformative energy of the Scorpio New Moon — a time of truth-telling, emotional clarity, and reclaiming your personal power. This conversation explores what happens when life pushes you to face what’s been hidden, confront old stories, and finally see where you’ve been giving your power away.
Together, Kelly and Marv talk about how truth can feel uncomfortable but ultimately frees you, why control is often rooted in fear, and how this season is calling us to live with deeper integrity and courage.
This episode is about standing firm in who you are, breaking through limitations, and using life’s lessons as fuel to step fully into your own strength.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
H'm Marv. Hi Kelly, how are you doing this month?
As we record on the day before this really big
full moon?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Is it the day before the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Will come out? Yeah, the podcast will come out on
the day of the tourist full moon. And I have
been feeling it, yeah, is it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah? I mean, you know, the way the new moon
starts is you know, when we started this, it was
easy to record at the beginning of the month because
the new moon was near the beginning of the month.
And now the new moon is closer to the end
of the month and has crossed that line. So it's
(00:55):
more of understanding on a monthly basis. And what I
try to do is tell you what you're working on
from the new moon that happened, Like leiber new moon
was on the twenty first, Okay, so we didn't get
to the new moon yet, so we've had two weeks
of the new moon. But you have to understand, the
(01:16):
new moon is the energy of the month, and so yes,
the full moon comes out, but what the full moon
is showing you is what the energy you've been working
on is now elucidated. It's now become clear, and it's
out into the public. Okay, so that's the way the
(01:37):
cycle works. And one of the reasons that I wrote
left the eclipse in there is because I still wanted
to go back and remind people, because I don't think
we make enough understanding of that. When you say we
had an eclipse, Well, it's a six month energy. And
so when I saw what I had written, and the
(02:00):
main words were recognizing the worldly conditions and maintaining your
one's inner purpose footing that's going to be exactly what
we're going to be talking about today, and maintain the
focus in the midst of chaos. Well, that's a six
month process, and so I think that's important to be
(02:24):
constantly reminded of that, or not constantly, but every now
and then be reminded of that that you know, we
are under the eclipse and the strong one of the
strongest points in a chart is the eclipse point. So
when I looked at the new moon in Libra, look
at my first statement, there is reached an entirely new
(02:47):
level of consciousness. How many months have I been banging
on that, Well, I'm going to bang on it even harder,
and I'm going to tell you why we have got
to see through the collective delusions and demand for a
radical restructuring of society. So, you know, I've come to
(03:08):
an understanding. You know, I think too much emphasis has
been placed on one man, and I think that he
is the perfect man for the job that needs to
be done for this social structure in society. And that's
how I can eliminate getting caught up in all the
news media and the coverage and all of that stuff
(03:31):
and the things that he does and says, because he's
not even important. It's a much, much bigger And I'm
going to get into telling you why. So we need
to understand that the relationships that we are in are
an exact mirror of who we are, and we don't
place enough importance on that. And in a Librinu moon,
(03:55):
that's pretty dagnone important because there is no greater relationship
than lead. It is what Libra is. It is relationships. Now,
the energy pattern that we had this month was a
square from Pluto Jupiter to that new moon. Well, Pluto
(04:16):
is transformation. It's transformation, and it transmutes our ego that
is connected to old past patterns, fears, guilt, and self
sabotage of the past. Jupiter is the expansion process and
(04:38):
it's the outer growth and the manifestation of abundance. But
before we get to that manifestation and abundance, we have
to come clear with our fears, guilts, doubts, shames and judgments.
And that's the relationship that's so so very important. And
(04:58):
of course as we look at the new moon, look
what I say, it's the evolution of consciousness. Now I've
already mentioned that twice and the energy pattern and this
is the big deal for the whole month, and it's
going to be the big deal for the next five months.
(05:19):
Is Saturn conjuncts Neptune at the last degrees of Pisces.
So let's explain that second. Saturn is your structure of
reality on the macro cosm and the microcosm, how you
have structured your life, how you build your life, and
your reality is Saturn. That is the foundation and the
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physical reality of form. Well, Neptune is the spiritual reality
of universal consciousness where everything is possible. Neptune is imagination,
it's delusion, it's a fog. It is the antithesis of
(06:05):
structure reality. They are conjunct and they will be conjunct
all the way until March. Now, what does this mean
in the larger context? I tell you we have got
to get to the place to where we trust nothing.
(06:27):
You might as well just get in your mind beliefs
that you have held, beliefs that is being projected out
into the world are all lies. There is nothing to believe.
You do not know nor do you see all the
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workings that's going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well do you think that people are starting to kind
of recognize that?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like, that's a big thing you see on social media nowadays.
Is nobody trusts anything that anyone is saying, the government,
the news, There's all these conspiracy theories, And for me,
it started to really open my brain up to that.
So it sounds like right on time as per usual.
But I think we are seeing there's there's a lot
going on secretly, or all these people are being exposed
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for bad behavior that we haven't known about in the
past when they became very successful or things like that,
and it just seems to be happening over and over
and over. It's like an uncovering is the word that
keeps coming into my brain.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, and but you can't even consider the uncovering as
being factual. Okay, so that's kind of what I'm saying.
There are no facts. Get rid of the concept of
facts in your mind that forge a belief. There's nothing
to believe.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then what are we wake up every day? You're making
that like you.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Wake up every day. Yeah, here we go again, back
into consciousness of one moment at a time and listening
to intuition and feelings. If you are not defining your
life my feelings and intuition, well then you're not living
(08:18):
in the moment, and we are all raising consciousness. I
tell you, what I've noticed on the TikTok is that
more awakened people are putting out information that is very,
very good, and it's more of them. I mean, I'm
(08:42):
literally stunned. I used to have to be part of
a conference of metaphysics and all of that stuff to
get that kind of abundance of people that we're working
on a higher level of consciousness. And now that is shifting.
And so when you take that that shifting is a
(09:07):
that's a wake up call in and of itself, well
the other level of consciousness.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes and no, because the end I mean, I agree
with you, yes, but I think to your point actually
about not believing anything. The interesting thing for me has
been over the past couple of years. You know, I
would say that I feel like I've been on a
spiritual journey for a while, and I have noticed over
the past couple of years the rise of somewhat I mean,
(09:36):
maybe you could call it the guru, the expert, that
all these things talking more about these spiritual concepts. But
I think it's been interesting the last maybe this has
been six months to a year. I have even found
myself feeling very fed up with certain voices or narratives
or people speaking out because there's this whole other thing
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happening where they're becoming the person that's worshiped, and I'm like,
that's so contradictory of anything spiritual or of the things
that they're trying to teach. And so it's this really
weird like back and forth of what can you trust,
what can you learn from avenues like that? And then
what do we need to step back from and really
(10:20):
use discernment on about giving our energy over into like
idolizing another human if that makes Does that make sense?
Like do you see where I'm bumping up against a
little bit, Like I'm almost fed up? No, but I
do feel like that's kind of what gets well, and I'll.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Take it a step further. Listening to other people's opinions
and conversations.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, yeah, because that's the other thing I'm getting fed
up with. It's like there really is no one size
fits all in this world. Like every single human is
here on their own specific journey. So how are we
going to try to tell someone how to go live
their life? You can't map it out for anyone else.
You can help, you know, help people find their path,
(11:05):
but it's their path still.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
As long as they're asking you for help, and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
If they're asking you right exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Longly, if they're asking yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Because a lot of times offering it up and that's really.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yea, the moment you offer up a conversation is when
you start getting yourself in trouble.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Well, it's just you have to be asked. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's going to take us right in segue right
into the next things that I want to talk about. Okay,
I mean, you've got not only do you have to
separate the wheat from the shaft as far as seeing
things and seeing reality as you see it and staying
in the moment, because it's building individuality, which builds consciousness.
(11:51):
Your consciousness. You know. I always go back to Kristiana
Murdy who said transformations starts with one. You have to understand,
and as we've gotten into quantum theory, you have to
understand you, Kelly, your individual influence and vibration. It changes
(12:18):
the whole structure of the world. Just think of that,
and every person is like that. But we need individual Kelly.
We don't need Kelly that's been misled, misconstrued, conditioned and
programmed by anybody else because we've lost Kelly. That's what
(12:41):
I call soul fragmentation in my book. I don't want
you to lose Kelly. I want Kelly. And so this
is very important because we got to puta Pluto Jupiter
t squaring Venus at the full boon, which means lessons
around relationships, fairness, values, and self worth and discovering personal
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limitations and then go beyond. So in other words, we're
reading who we are through our relationships to other people,
and then we move beyond them by changing our conditioning
and programming and belief in ourself. And so we lessen
(13:28):
that whole fragmentation process. When you have a uranus opposing
Mercury and Mars. Now we've got constructive action rather than
rebellion or verbal confrontation. So we certainly are going to
be facing that over the next couple of weeks. So
you're going to be challenged. How wonderful is that going
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to be? When you got a mercury retrograde that's coming
up in a few days and a juven retrograde that's
coming up in a few days.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think I knew about the Jupiter retrogram.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right, and that a bigger deal than mercury. Trust me.
Jupiter is higher consciousness, and it's freedom, and it's it's
your intuition. It's how we tap into that higher consciousness.
(14:26):
Here we go with consciousness again, and so when we're
looking at this mercury retrograde, it's the excitement and fun
of one's life versus allowing disasters to suppress your passions.
You start getting into the macro causem and thinking of
all the chaos and all the crap that's going on, Well,
(14:50):
that can certainly suppress your passions, suppress your enjoyment of life.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I have a question, so are you saying that there's
a theme to this specific mercury retrograde that's about finding
excitement and fun in one's life and allowing disaster and
to stop allowing disasters to suppress our passions.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, think about it, it's in Sagittarius. What is the
most fun loving?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
The party hanging off the highwear highwear, screaming with a
drink in her hand in one hand. Yeah, then Sagittarius,
no for sure. Okay, So the reflection and.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So let's break this down for the listeners though before
you move on, because mercury retrograde comes for us to
pause and review typically like it gets such a bad
wrap and pop astrology, and so we try to talk
about that here on this podcast, which is that it's
really a time for review and it often involves like
our communication technology things like that because it's mercury, right,
(15:54):
is that right?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, So then this specific one is asking us to
rever you where in our life are we not allowing
ourselves to find excitement in allowing disasters to suppress our passions?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And the ending comes when mercury goes direct. Okay, that's
what we need to learn, and what do we need
to learn follow the impulses of the moment, when following
the conditioning and the pattering of what it's looked like fun,
(16:31):
So you're repeating it. I guess that's the best way
for me to say it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
That's a great way to say it. So it's like,
is it really lighting you up? Or have you just
been doing it so long that it's habit and like
you can't convince yourself that's fun, but like is it
really fun for you? Are you really enjoying it? And what?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And then the follow up to that is tuning out
the expectations of others. In other words, a great metaphor
for this smirky retrograde is cocktail party exchanges. Small What
does that say to you?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Small talk? That's all?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I can't I'm not getting into no heavy stuff
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't care to either. It's gotten so much harder
for me as I've gotten older. I just don't care
to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
As you've gotten wiser, swing that's not older, that's God.
You've gotten wiser and you're following a more intuitive spiritual track,
which gives makes you a little more lonelier because you
have less people to speak to. Yeah, so you have to,
(17:43):
you know, have small talk. But at this point and
when as soon as I get the Jupiter retrograde in
a moment, you understand why. Okay, So you've got to
let me understand the divine order behind all things. That's
the final message to mark retrograde, understanding there's always a
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divine order to things. So why judge it, why criticize it,
why form a belief out of it?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It just is what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It is. I was going to say the same thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay, and so cocktail party communications. And then when we
go into the Jupiter retrograde, the answer is diplomatic conversations. Well,
have you ever heard a reality come out of a
diplomat's mouth?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
No, I'm very much these notes, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So when you're looking at Jupiter retrograde, when I go
to Jupiter retrograde, for people, the first sentence is learning
to unlearned beliefs, philosophies you've ever been a part of
or believed in, and deal only with reality with the
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natural intuitive focus. I don't know how to say it
any better than that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well I didn't understand that, So could you say it again?
Say it one more time? Read it one more time.
I hont to see if I can get it or
ask the right question.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Learning to unlearned beliefs, philosophies you've ever been a part
of or believed in, and deal only with the reality
from natural, intuitive focus and voice.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So it's what you were saying at the beginning of
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's constant. It's a repeated theme this whole month.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's about higher consciousness. And you know, I've been hollering
about this, or I've been talking about this.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
We could call it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, I mean, I'm just passionate about trying to get
a message. Ross that's a better way to say it, Okay,
So I mean, you know, And so that's the point.
It's balancing social stability with individual freedom. I just got
off with a zoom with my last client. It's about individuality.
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It's about individuality. You are on your own, your beliefs,
your reality, everything is about you. That's what's important to understand.
And so when I looked at the chart of the
Jupiter retrograde, it's got to Uranus squares the moon. So
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you're fluctuating moods, and everybody's fluctuating moods, especially politicians and
everybody else that operate off of a whim or say
things out of a whim, or just say things off
the cuff. These things cause confusion. So stay out of
the moodiness. I mean, that's like, you know, partnerships getting
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in bad moods and you're going, what's wrong with you? Yeah, Oh,
I'm just in a bad mood. And tell me that
don't interfere with your energy and the influence of your vibration.
Certainly it does, right.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So what are you saying to do? Because I feel
like there was something at the beginning of the podcast
where you said to really lean into like the feelings
and to act out of that place, and to act
out of the place. I can't trying to find where
it was, but living moment to moment. So now what
you're saying is confusing me because I feel like it's contrau.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It doesn't need to confuse you, because what I'm telling
you to do is stay out of the emotions. When
somebody act operates from a mood that causes an emotion
that's not a feelings somebody else's moods and fluctuating circumstances
and things they say that very much can influence your mood.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So we're back to the same argument about feelings.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And well, it's not an argument, it's just it's just
the way it is.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, I'm just saying that the reason I'm getting confused
is the same. We've already had this discussion, so we
don't need to have it again. But it's yeah, so
I don't. I don't get that at all. Like I
to me when you say feelings and emotions, and we've
already had this conversation, but they are they're like this,
and so I'm getting confused on what are we feelings?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Feelings are not like this. Feelings are moment to moment.
You feel physical senses. That's it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Okay, but that's what I'm saying when I do this
up and down, it's moment to moment, so they change.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So life is changing. Yeah, but see, you don't have
to be in an emotion every moment mm hmm. Emotion
is caused by an outside circumstance that you would either
connect to or you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I guess I'm confused. But how are we supposed to like,
I think, to pay attention to ourselves. Intuitively, moment to
moment is a confusing message in contrast to but don't
act out of what you're feeling moments moment. Does that
make sense where I'm confused?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm not sure you confused me.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Cheers to that. We're all confusion.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You wanted to do that, you did it?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
No, that's what's happening in my brain. It doesn't. I
feel like those are contradicting messages, like do we act
out of what we feel moments a moment? Do we
trust that? Or do we sit back?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Because if you act out, that's an emotion. You act
out because you're in love with someone, don't you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't know if I get it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
What do you mean you don't get it?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Of course you love someone, It's an emotion. It fills
you up.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
The dude do anger, that's an easier one. So if
someone cuts me off in when I'm driving, it makes
me mad. So if I right the way I'm interpreting this,
the last thing you said is don't you know go
road rage and go hit their car with my car
or something like don't act out of that place, but
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in the place earlier I was. I'm confusing the two
messages because what you said earlier was to go moment
to moment with how we feel. Intuitively, like right, so
let me let.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Me take that analogy. Somebody cuts you off, you get
you get a moment of rage, you want to run
them over with a tank, and then you go, you
know what, I've done the same thing. It's all right,
I give him a break and then you got it.
The emotion settles back down. Okay, you get back into
the center. You know what I do actually always come
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back into the center.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
The thing I do in road rage, just for anyone
who might struggle with that, or when you get pissed
at people, if I always go okay, like if I
got stopped or someone cut me off and I had
to slow down, what is the universe telling me? Like
why do I need to slow down? There's something like
am I in touch with myself? Or am I just
driving down the road not paying attention to anything like
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that sounds kind of woo woo, But there's always a
lesson in every single thing that happens. Like if we're
stuck in traffic, be in traffic. That's like that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I could not say that better, Kelly, Really, that's exactly
that is perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay, Wow, that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You see that doesn't require an emotion, It doesn't require
an action emotion, there's an action. Feelings do not require
actions that might even be the best way to think
about it. So you get back down into your feelings.
You start using a higher level of consciousness to say,
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you know, I just this is happening for a reason.
Let me start focusing on what's going on right now.
Maybe I'm not focusing on the road like I should. See.
Now you're using there's a value in that feeling in
the moment, and you're creating a higher level of consciousness
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of how you want to experience it, versus getting all
up into the rage and getting angry, which now takes
you out of any ability at all to be able
to process the information as what is this trying to
teach me and show me huge difference?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay, so I guess it's almost like when we're just
acting out of the emotions, like the feeling. Maybe it's
like you can acknowledge that you feel angry, like that
pissed me off. I wish they wouldn't have done that. Whatever.
Then like you can say, like what you said, well,
maybe they're having well I don't know, we all make mistakes. Whatever,
Why is this happening right now? There's always a reason.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yes, yes, yes, it's exactly right. Okay, And so that's
what this Jupiter is all about, digesting facts and rebelling
against power structures with humor. I think humor is one
of the what is Jupiter retrograde trying to teach us
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humor just make everything it's just funny.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh, I've been laughing a lot at the state of
our everything else to do. At this point, I'm just like,
here we are. The Internet is funny sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes it is. And so we get into the scorpio
at on November the twentieth at twenty nine degrees. This
is the courage to stand up for what you believe in,
even when it's risky and unpopular. But what I'm saying,
and what I've said all up until this point, is
you don't have to share it. When I talked earlier
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to a client, I said, you know what just popped
in my mind is don't cast pearls before swine. Know
who you're talking to, right, Know who you're talking to
and what you can share and can't share, and don't
share your creativity, and don't share things that go into
a rabbit hole that you have to describe why you
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think what you think. There's no point in that. I
read an article today about the most intelligent people just
shut up and do not defend or describe what they're
thinking and responding to a conversation that doesn't line up
with them.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh my god, you just described all my past relationships
and the reason that my relationship now is so much
more peaceful for me. But you have to like, for instance,
for the listeners, what Marv just said, it's the perfect
way for me to describe that I like heard every
ex boyfriend argument that I was always having trying to
(29:21):
Like I've said this on the podcast before. I thought,
if I just say this in another way, if I
just say it better, if I just say it at
a different time of day, if I just say it
when they're sitting down, not standing up, when the sky
is blue and not, you know, like all of the
different things. It didn't matter. It was the audience. They
were never gonna hear it ever, So it didn't matter
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how I said it, what I was saying when I
said it, the tone of voice. They weren't gonna get
it because we weren't aligned. And that was the biggest
gift to me. Now, is I don't waste my energy
defending like you said, or explaining anything to anyone who
is determined to misunderstand me Like that is just we're
not that's too much energy. Just why would we even
(30:07):
do it?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All it is is trying to solicit validation for the
way we are. How can I validate me by communicating
to somebody else and getting them to agree with me? Shit,
that's a religion.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I was always like trying to get them to see
the pain they were causing me, and it's like I
don't care because it's all about them, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, they didn't care, So it even caused more.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Pain exactly until I could finally just accept it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And so this Scorpio new moon is about following walk
your own path, learn to handle challenges without bitterness. Perfect
I think you described it earlier. This happened for a reason,
Let me learn from it. God, can you imagine how
if you of your life like that with every relationship
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you meet, how easy and simple it would be.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's almost like taking your power back in some weird way,
Like it's very empowering to live that way, because there's
just if.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
We are met and that's not a weird way. Kelly, Well,
I mean it's a wonderful way.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, it's a wonderful way. But it's just when so
many external factors are coming at us at all times,
if they're all capable of rocking us, Like even when
you're sitting in traffic, if someone's other, someone else is
driving erratically or whatever is going to ruin your day,
you're giving them the power of your day. But if
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you can sit and go okay, woof, guess they're in
a hurry or some shit like, it just turns it
around and they don't have the they don't have the
power to like take you down in the same way. Yeah,
or any external factor for that matter.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Exactly exactly. And so this new moon, the energy patterns
Iurana supposes, the new moon and the mercury retrograde and
what is it? A wake up call both psychological and spiritual.
So we're needing to get into that level of consciousness
where we operate on a moment to moment basis instead
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of old conditioning and patterning, and start trusting ourselves in
the moment. And so you know, we'll get sudden insights, revelations,
or disruptions that break open what's been suppressed, so you
know there's another metaphor available there somewheres. So our suppressions
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are what makes us get emotional because we've been we've
been suppressing something. Whatever gets suppressed must come out in
another person, and when it comes out in another person,
it's always worse.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
M I mean to go on again on this road
rage example. It's like if someone cuts you off and
it makes you so mad and you're just like fuming,
where did that start? Like where did you first feel
disrespected in your life? Like those are the kind of
things I start thinking about now too when something triggers
me and it's just like, I'm such a short fuse
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about it. It's probably because it's showing me something. Like
you were saying in the beginning of the podcast, every
relationship is such a mirror for us. But like, maybe
you felt disrespected through I don't know, your twenties or something,
or your childhood or whatever it was, and you have
not been living out in a way that has changed
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that narrative within you. Then you're going to keep bumping
up against people cutting you off and people disrespecting you
and all that stuff until you get that right within yourself.
It has nothing to do. They're just the catalyst, like
they're just the thing here to show you that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And that's perfect. And I mean, you know, this is
the second into last statement and they're buried feelings erupt
for healing. So you become emotional based upon an old
feeling that you have now suppressed internally and now it's
being brought up so you can heal it. So when
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you get that road rage and you experience that emotion,
this is your opportunity to heal that by going through
the process that you laid out that makes sense to me.
Liberation from fear or control, releasing old trauma patterns, especially
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around intimacy, money, and trust. That's the final new moon truth.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So that this is for basically all of November, right,
or this is for November okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, yeah, because that's the new moon in Scorpio, right,
So that's that's part of November and some of December.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah. I was kind of wondering that, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Because this is the Scorpio new mood. It's not even
going to be until November twentieth. Well, you won't even
be out of the new moon until four or five
days into December, and so you're going to be dealing
with this next month, and so we've really got to
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face all of our patterns of trust and guilt and
doubt and shame and judgment. There are no fears. Release
the fears, release all of these intimacy issues that you're
bumping up against another person and realizing they are your teachers,
(35:46):
they're helping you, and you just go through the process
of that of what you defined, which was perfect, of
that driver that cuts you off? What is this showing me?
How is this teaching me? Did I have skin in
the game? Did I not have skin in the game?
Did I do this on purpose? Did I not do
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this on This is the way I want to react.
Is there a better way to react?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And so go ahead, that's the process.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah. I was going to say, this feels like an
interesting I mean, it's not ever surprising, but it's a
good wrap up of the year in a way to
start inventoring some of our behaviors and the things that
are impacting us and really be reflective on that, you know.
I mean, it's not technically the end of the year astrologically,
I know, but like I think, because of the way
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we operate, sometimes we do start to get a little
more reflective at this time of year, and you really
can start looking at what you want to bring into
the new year and what you want to release and
let go and leave in the past.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, we're only a month away from the winter solstice,
which is exactly defining what the winter solstice is about.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And think about what I said about till March, undue
beliefs on your old belief your patterns that do not
work and don't form any new ones because you don't
know all what's going.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
On behind the Yeah, we're not there and.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's the juput a retrograde message until March.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well, all right, act everyone, Marv. If people want to
know what's going on specifically for them, I always say,
it's a really good thing to have their own birth
chart read and do a session with you. So where
would they find you if they want to do that?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
At astro marvs dot com.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Marv dot com, Yeah right, Marvin, Oh you have both, Yeah,
I think Marvin Marvin at astromarv dot com. I'll put
that in the description of the podcast for you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
In case we were astro mark dot com.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yes, that's your website, astromarv dot com all of that.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
If they really want the full picture of me, they
can go to soul Fusionhealing dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Okay, sol Fusion.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's a wonderful website, and.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Your book is soul Fusion as well. So again, a
lot of information for you, guys, So I'll put it
in the description of this podcast to make sure we
didn't just confuse the hell out of you with all
of that. But go check that out. Go do a
session with Marv. That would actually be such a good
Christmas gift to give people. So if you have a
friend that's interested or anything like that. I always love
(38:32):
gifting people sessions with Marv. It's like an interesting gift
and nobody thinks of it, so an astrology session is
always a good way to go. So anyway, thank you
mar for being here with us, and we'll report back
in December and see how November one.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
All right, thanks for having me
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Thank you guys for listening.
H'm Marv. Hi Kelly, how are you doing this month?
As we record on the day before this really big
full moon?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Is it the day before the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Will come out? Yeah, the podcast will come out on
the day of the tourist full moon. And I have
been feeling it, yeah, is it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah? I mean, you know, the way the new moon
starts is you know, when we started this, it was
easy to record at the beginning of the month because
the new moon was near the beginning of the month.
And now the new moon is closer to the end
of the month and has crossed that line. So it's
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more of understanding on a monthly basis. And what I
try to do is tell you what you're working on
from the new moon that happened, Like leiber new moon
was on the twenty first, Okay, so we didn't get
to the new moon yet, so we've had two weeks
of the new moon. But you have to understand, the
(01:16):
new moon is the energy of the month, and so yes,
the full moon comes out, but what the full moon
is showing you is what the energy you've been working
on is now elucidated. It's now become clear, and it's
out into the public. Okay, so that's the way the
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cycle works. And one of the reasons that I wrote
left the eclipse in there is because I still wanted
to go back and remind people, because I don't think
we make enough understanding of that. When you say we
had an eclipse, Well, it's a six month energy. And
so when I saw what I had written, and the
(02:00):
main words were recognizing the worldly conditions and maintaining your
one's inner purpose footing that's going to be exactly what
we're going to be talking about today, and maintain the
focus in the midst of chaos. Well, that's a six
month process, and so I think that's important to be
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constantly reminded of that, or not constantly, but every now
and then be reminded of that that you know, we
are under the eclipse and the strong one of the
strongest points in a chart is the eclipse point. So
when I looked at the new moon in Libra, look
at my first statement, there is reached an entirely new
(02:47):
level of consciousness. How many months have I been banging
on that, Well, I'm going to bang on it even harder,
and I'm going to tell you why we have got
to see through the collective delusions and demand for a
radical restructuring of society. So, you know, I've come to
(03:08):
an understanding. You know, I think too much emphasis has
been placed on one man, and I think that he
is the perfect man for the job that needs to
be done for this social structure in society. And that's
how I can eliminate getting caught up in all the
news media and the coverage and all of that stuff
(03:31):
and the things that he does and says, because he's
not even important. It's a much, much bigger And I'm
going to get into telling you why. So we need
to understand that the relationships that we are in are
an exact mirror of who we are, and we don't
place enough importance on that. And in a Librinu moon,
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that's pretty dagnone important because there is no greater relationship
than lead. It is what Libra is. It is relationships. Now,
the energy pattern that we had this month was a
square from Pluto Jupiter to that new moon. Well, Pluto
(04:16):
is transformation. It's transformation, and it transmutes our ego that
is connected to old past patterns, fears, guilt, and self
sabotage of the past. Jupiter is the expansion process and
(04:38):
it's the outer growth and the manifestation of abundance. But
before we get to that manifestation and abundance, we have
to come clear with our fears, guilts, doubts, shames and judgments.
And that's the relationship that's so so very important. And
(04:58):
of course as we look at the new moon, look
what I say, it's the evolution of consciousness. Now I've
already mentioned that twice and the energy pattern and this
is the big deal for the whole month, and it's
going to be the big deal for the next five months.
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Is Saturn conjuncts Neptune at the last degrees of Pisces.
So let's explain that second. Saturn is your structure of
reality on the macro cosm and the microcosm, how you
have structured your life, how you build your life, and
your reality is Saturn. That is the foundation and the
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physical reality of form. Well, Neptune is the spiritual reality
of universal consciousness where everything is possible. Neptune is imagination,
it's delusion, it's a fog. It is the antithesis of
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structure reality. They are conjunct and they will be conjunct
all the way until March. Now, what does this mean
in the larger context? I tell you we have got
to get to the place to where we trust nothing.
(06:27):
You might as well just get in your mind beliefs
that you have held, beliefs that is being projected out
into the world are all lies. There is nothing to believe.
You do not know nor do you see all the
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workings that's going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well do you think that people are starting to kind
of recognize that?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like, that's a big thing you see on social media nowadays.
Is nobody trusts anything that anyone is saying, the government,
the news, There's all these conspiracy theories, And for me,
it started to really open my brain up to that.
So it sounds like right on time as per usual.
But I think we are seeing there's there's a lot
going on secretly, or all these people are being exposed
(07:21):
for bad behavior that we haven't known about in the
past when they became very successful or things like that,
and it just seems to be happening over and over
and over. It's like an uncovering is the word that
keeps coming into my brain.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, and but you can't even consider the uncovering as
being factual. Okay, so that's kind of what I'm saying.
There are no facts. Get rid of the concept of
facts in your mind that forge a belief. There's nothing
to believe.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Then what are we wake up every day? You're making
that like you.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Wake up every day. Yeah, here we go again, back
into consciousness of one moment at a time and listening
to intuition and feelings. If you are not defining your
life my feelings and intuition, well then you're not living
(08:18):
in the moment, and we are all raising consciousness. I
tell you, what I've noticed on the TikTok is that
more awakened people are putting out information that is very,
very good, and it's more of them. I mean, I'm
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literally stunned. I used to have to be part of
a conference of metaphysics and all of that stuff to
get that kind of abundance of people that we're working
on a higher level of consciousness. And now that is shifting.
And so when you take that that shifting is a
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that's a wake up call in and of itself, well
the other level of consciousness.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes and no, because the end I mean, I agree
with you, yes, but I think to your point actually
about not believing anything. The interesting thing for me has
been over the past couple of years. You know, I
would say that I feel like I've been on a
spiritual journey for a while, and I have noticed over
the past couple of years the rise of somewhat I mean,
(09:36):
maybe you could call it the guru, the expert, that
all these things talking more about these spiritual concepts. But
I think it's been interesting the last maybe this has
been six months to a year. I have even found
myself feeling very fed up with certain voices or narratives
or people speaking out because there's this whole other thing
(09:59):
happening where they're becoming the person that's worshiped, and I'm like,
that's so contradictory of anything spiritual or of the things
that they're trying to teach. And so it's this really
weird like back and forth of what can you trust,
what can you learn from avenues like that? And then
what do we need to step back from and really
(10:20):
use discernment on about giving our energy over into like
idolizing another human if that makes Does that make sense?
Like do you see where I'm bumping up against a
little bit, Like I'm almost fed up? No, but I
do feel like that's kind of what gets well, and I'll.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Take it a step further. Listening to other people's opinions
and conversations.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, yeah, because that's the other thing I'm getting fed
up with. It's like there really is no one size
fits all in this world. Like every single human is
here on their own specific journey. So how are we
going to try to tell someone how to go live
their life? You can't map it out for anyone else.
You can help, you know, help people find their path,
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but it's their path still.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
As long as they're asking you for help, and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
If they're asking you right exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Longly, if they're asking yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Because a lot of times offering it up and that's really.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yea, the moment you offer up a conversation is when
you start getting yourself in trouble.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Well, it's just you have to be asked. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's going to take us right in segue right
into the next things that I want to talk about. Okay,
I mean, you've got not only do you have to
separate the wheat from the shaft as far as seeing
things and seeing reality as you see it and staying
in the moment, because it's building individuality, which builds consciousness.
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Your consciousness. You know. I always go back to Kristiana
Murdy who said transformations starts with one. You have to understand,
and as we've gotten into quantum theory, you have to
understand you, Kelly, your individual influence and vibration. It changes
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the whole structure of the world. Just think of that,
and every person is like that. But we need individual Kelly.
We don't need Kelly that's been misled, misconstrued, conditioned and
programmed by anybody else because we've lost Kelly. That's what
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I call soul fragmentation in my book. I don't want
you to lose Kelly. I want Kelly. And so this
is very important because we got to puta Pluto Jupiter
t squaring Venus at the full boon, which means lessons
around relationships, fairness, values, and self worth and discovering personal
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limitations and then go beyond. So in other words, we're
reading who we are through our relationships to other people,
and then we move beyond them by changing our conditioning
and programming and belief in ourself. And so we lessen
(13:28):
that whole fragmentation process. When you have a uranus opposing
Mercury and Mars. Now we've got constructive action rather than
rebellion or verbal confrontation. So we certainly are going to
be facing that over the next couple of weeks. So
you're going to be challenged. How wonderful is that going
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to be? When you got a mercury retrograde that's coming
up in a few days and a juven retrograde that's
coming up in a few days.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think I knew about the Jupiter retrogram.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right, and that a bigger deal than mercury. Trust me.
Jupiter is higher consciousness, and it's freedom, and it's it's
your intuition. It's how we tap into that higher consciousness.
(14:26):
Here we go with consciousness again, and so when we're
looking at this mercury retrograde, it's the excitement and fun
of one's life versus allowing disasters to suppress your passions.
You start getting into the macro causem and thinking of
all the chaos and all the crap that's going on, Well,
(14:50):
that can certainly suppress your passions, suppress your enjoyment of life.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I have a question, so are you saying that there's
a theme to this specific mercury retrograde that's about finding
excitement and fun in one's life and allowing disaster and
to stop allowing disasters to suppress our passions.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, think about it, it's in Sagittarius. What is the
most fun loving?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
The party hanging off the highwear highwear, screaming with a
drink in her hand in one hand. Yeah, then Sagittarius,
no for sure. Okay, So the reflection and.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So let's break this down for the listeners though before
you move on, because mercury retrograde comes for us to
pause and review typically like it gets such a bad
wrap and pop astrology, and so we try to talk
about that here on this podcast, which is that it's
really a time for review and it often involves like
our communication technology things like that because it's mercury, right,
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is that right?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, So then this specific one is asking us to
rever you where in our life are we not allowing
ourselves to find excitement in allowing disasters to suppress our passions?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And the ending comes when mercury goes direct. Okay, that's
what we need to learn, and what do we need
to learn follow the impulses of the moment, when following
the conditioning and the pattering of what it's looked like fun,
(16:31):
So you're repeating it. I guess that's the best way
for me to say it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
That's a great way to say it. So it's like,
is it really lighting you up? Or have you just
been doing it so long that it's habit and like
you can't convince yourself that's fun, but like is it
really fun for you? Are you really enjoying it? And what?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And then the follow up to that is tuning out
the expectations of others. In other words, a great metaphor
for this smirky retrograde is cocktail party exchanges. Small What
does that say to you?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Small talk? That's all?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I can't I'm not getting into no heavy stuff
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't care to either. It's gotten so much harder
for me as I've gotten older. I just don't care
to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
As you've gotten wiser, swing that's not older, that's God.
You've gotten wiser and you're following a more intuitive spiritual track,
which gives makes you a little more lonelier because you
have less people to speak to. Yeah, so you have to,
(17:43):
you know, have small talk. But at this point and
when as soon as I get the Jupiter retrograde in
a moment, you understand why. Okay, So you've got to
let me understand the divine order behind all things. That's
the final message to mark retrograde, understanding there's always a
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divine order to things. So why judge it, why criticize it,
why form a belief out of it?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It just is what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It is. I was going to say the same thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay, and so cocktail party communications. And then when we
go into the Jupiter retrograde, the answer is diplomatic conversations. Well,
have you ever heard a reality come out of a
diplomat's mouth?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
No, I'm very much these notes, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So when you're looking at Jupiter retrograde, when I go
to Jupiter retrograde, for people, the first sentence is learning
to unlearned beliefs, philosophies you've ever been a part of
or believed in, and deal only with reality with the
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natural intuitive focus. I don't know how to say it
any better than that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well I didn't understand that, So could you say it again?
Say it one more time? Read it one more time.
I hont to see if I can get it or
ask the right question.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Learning to unlearned beliefs, philosophies you've ever been a part
of or believed in, and deal only with the reality
from natural, intuitive focus and voice.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So it's what you were saying at the beginning of
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's constant. It's a repeated theme this whole month.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's about higher consciousness. And you know, I've been hollering
about this, or I've been talking about this.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
We could call it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, I mean, I'm just passionate about trying to get
a message. Ross that's a better way to say it, Okay,
So I mean, you know, And so that's the point.
It's balancing social stability with individual freedom. I just got
off with a zoom with my last client. It's about individuality.
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It's about individuality. You are on your own, your beliefs,
your reality, everything is about you. That's what's important to understand.
And so when I looked at the chart of the
Jupiter retrograde, it's got to Uranus squares the moon. So
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you're fluctuating moods, and everybody's fluctuating moods, especially politicians and
everybody else that operate off of a whim or say
things out of a whim, or just say things off
the cuff. These things cause confusion. So stay out of
the moodiness. I mean, that's like, you know, partnerships getting
(21:06):
in bad moods and you're going, what's wrong with you? Yeah, Oh,
I'm just in a bad mood. And tell me that
don't interfere with your energy and the influence of your vibration.
Certainly it does, right.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So what are you saying to do? Because I feel
like there was something at the beginning of the podcast
where you said to really lean into like the feelings
and to act out of that place, and to act
out of the place. I can't trying to find where
it was, but living moment to moment. So now what
you're saying is confusing me because I feel like it's contrau.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It doesn't need to confuse you, because what I'm telling
you to do is stay out of the emotions. When
somebody act operates from a mood that causes an emotion
that's not a feelings somebody else's moods and fluctuating circumstances
and things they say that very much can influence your mood.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So we're back to the same argument about feelings.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And well, it's not an argument, it's just it's just
the way it is.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, I'm just saying that the reason I'm getting confused
is the same. We've already had this discussion, so we
don't need to have it again. But it's yeah, so
I don't. I don't get that at all. Like I
to me when you say feelings and emotions, and we've
already had this conversation, but they are they're like this,
and so I'm getting confused on what are we feelings?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Feelings are not like this. Feelings are moment to moment.
You feel physical senses. That's it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Okay, but that's what I'm saying when I do this
up and down, it's moment to moment, so they change.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
So life is changing. Yeah, but see, you don't have
to be in an emotion every moment mm hmm. Emotion
is caused by an outside circumstance that you would either
connect to or you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I guess I'm confused. But how are we supposed to like,
I think, to pay attention to ourselves. Intuitively, moment to
moment is a confusing message in contrast to but don't
act out of what you're feeling moments moment. Does that
make sense where I'm confused?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm not sure you confused me.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Cheers to that. We're all confusion.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You wanted to do that, you did it?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
No, that's what's happening in my brain. It doesn't. I
feel like those are contradicting messages, like do we act
out of what we feel moments a moment? Do we
trust that? Or do we sit back?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Because if you act out, that's an emotion. You act
out because you're in love with someone, don't you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't know if I get it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
What do you mean you don't get it?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Of course you love someone, It's an emotion. It fills
you up.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
The dude do anger, that's an easier one. So if
someone cuts me off in when I'm driving, it makes
me mad. So if I right the way I'm interpreting this,
the last thing you said is don't you know go
road rage and go hit their car with my car
or something like don't act out of that place, but
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in the place earlier I was. I'm confusing the two
messages because what you said earlier was to go moment
to moment with how we feel. Intuitively, like right, so
let me let.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Me take that analogy. Somebody cuts you off, you get
you get a moment of rage, you want to run
them over with a tank, and then you go, you
know what, I've done the same thing. It's all right,
I give him a break and then you got it.
The emotion settles back down. Okay, you get back into
the center. You know what I do actually always come
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back into the center.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
The thing I do in road rage, just for anyone
who might struggle with that, or when you get pissed
at people, if I always go okay, like if I
got stopped or someone cut me off and I had
to slow down, what is the universe telling me? Like
why do I need to slow down? There's something like
am I in touch with myself? Or am I just
driving down the road not paying attention to anything like
(25:37):
that sounds kind of woo woo, But there's always a
lesson in every single thing that happens. Like if we're
stuck in traffic, be in traffic. That's like that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I could not say that better, Kelly, Really, that's exactly
that is perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay, Wow, that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You see that doesn't require an emotion, It doesn't require
an action emotion, there's an action. Feelings do not require
actions that might even be the best way to think
about it. So you get back down into your feelings.
You start using a higher level of consciousness to say,
(26:16):
you know, I just this is happening for a reason.
Let me start focusing on what's going on right now.
Maybe I'm not focusing on the road like I should. See.
Now you're using there's a value in that feeling in
the moment, and you're creating a higher level of consciousness
(26:37):
of how you want to experience it, versus getting all
up into the rage and getting angry, which now takes
you out of any ability at all to be able
to process the information as what is this trying to
teach me and show me huge difference?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay, so I guess it's almost like when we're just
acting out of the emotions, like the feeling. Maybe it's
like you can acknowledge that you feel angry, like that
pissed me off. I wish they wouldn't have done that. Whatever.
Then like you can say, like what you said, well,
maybe they're having well I don't know, we all make mistakes. Whatever,
Why is this happening right now? There's always a reason.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yes, yes, yes, it's exactly right. Okay, And so that's
what this Jupiter is all about, digesting facts and rebelling
against power structures with humor. I think humor is one
of the what is Jupiter retrograde trying to teach us
(27:41):
humor just make everything it's just funny.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh, I've been laughing a lot at the state of
our everything else to do. At this point, I'm just like,
here we are. The Internet is funny sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes it is. And so we get into the scorpio
at on November the twentieth at twenty nine degrees. This
is the courage to stand up for what you believe in,
even when it's risky and unpopular. But what I'm saying,
and what I've said all up until this point, is
you don't have to share it. When I talked earlier
(28:20):
to a client, I said, you know what just popped
in my mind is don't cast pearls before swine. Know
who you're talking to, right, Know who you're talking to
and what you can share and can't share, and don't
share your creativity, and don't share things that go into
a rabbit hole that you have to describe why you
(28:42):
think what you think. There's no point in that. I
read an article today about the most intelligent people just
shut up and do not defend or describe what they're
thinking and responding to a conversation that doesn't line up
with them.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh my god, you just described all my past relationships
and the reason that my relationship now is so much
more peaceful for me. But you have to like, for instance,
for the listeners, what Marv just said, it's the perfect
way for me to describe that I like heard every
ex boyfriend argument that I was always having trying to
(29:21):
Like I've said this on the podcast before. I thought,
if I just say this in another way, if I
just say it better, if I just say it at
a different time of day, if I just say it
when they're sitting down, not standing up, when the sky
is blue and not, you know, like all of the
different things. It didn't matter. It was the audience. They
were never gonna hear it ever, So it didn't matter
(29:44):
how I said it, what I was saying when I
said it, the tone of voice. They weren't gonna get
it because we weren't aligned. And that was the biggest
gift to me. Now, is I don't waste my energy
defending like you said, or explaining anything to anyone who
is determined to misunderstand me Like that is just we're
not that's too much energy. Just why would we even
(30:07):
do it?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All it is is trying to solicit validation for the
way we are. How can I validate me by communicating
to somebody else and getting them to agree with me? Shit,
that's a religion.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I was always like trying to get them to see
the pain they were causing me, and it's like I
don't care because it's all about them, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, they didn't care, So it even caused more.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Pain exactly until I could finally just accept it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And so this Scorpio new moon is about following walk
your own path, learn to handle challenges without bitterness. Perfect
I think you described it earlier. This happened for a reason,
Let me learn from it. God, can you imagine how
if you of your life like that with every relationship
(31:02):
you meet, how easy and simple it would be.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's almost like taking your power back in some weird way,
Like it's very empowering to live that way, because there's
just if.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
We are met and that's not a weird way. Kelly, Well,
I mean it's a wonderful way.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, it's a wonderful way. But it's just when so
many external factors are coming at us at all times,
if they're all capable of rocking us, Like even when
you're sitting in traffic, if someone's other, someone else is
driving erratically or whatever is going to ruin your day,
you're giving them the power of your day. But if
(31:41):
you can sit and go okay, woof, guess they're in
a hurry or some shit like, it just turns it
around and they don't have the they don't have the
power to like take you down in the same way. Yeah,
or any external factor for that matter.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Exactly exactly. And so this new moon, the energy patterns
Iurana supposes, the new moon and the mercury retrograde and
what is it? A wake up call both psychological and spiritual.
So we're needing to get into that level of consciousness
where we operate on a moment to moment basis instead
(32:20):
of old conditioning and patterning, and start trusting ourselves in
the moment. And so you know, we'll get sudden insights, revelations,
or disruptions that break open what's been suppressed, so you
know there's another metaphor available there somewheres. So our suppressions
(32:43):
are what makes us get emotional because we've been we've
been suppressing something. Whatever gets suppressed must come out in
another person, and when it comes out in another person,
it's always worse.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
M I mean to go on again on this road
rage example. It's like if someone cuts you off and
it makes you so mad and you're just like fuming,
where did that start? Like where did you first feel
disrespected in your life? Like those are the kind of
things I start thinking about now too when something triggers
me and it's just like, I'm such a short fuse
(33:22):
about it. It's probably because it's showing me something. Like
you were saying in the beginning of the podcast, every
relationship is such a mirror for us. But like, maybe
you felt disrespected through I don't know, your twenties or something,
or your childhood or whatever it was, and you have
not been living out in a way that has changed
(33:43):
that narrative within you. Then you're going to keep bumping
up against people cutting you off and people disrespecting you
and all that stuff until you get that right within yourself.
It has nothing to do. They're just the catalyst, like
they're just the thing here to show you that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And that's perfect. And I mean, you know, this is
the second into last statement and they're buried feelings erupt
for healing. So you become emotional based upon an old
feeling that you have now suppressed internally and now it's
being brought up so you can heal it. So when
(34:18):
you get that road rage and you experience that emotion,
this is your opportunity to heal that by going through
the process that you laid out that makes sense to me.
Liberation from fear or control, releasing old trauma patterns, especially
(34:38):
around intimacy, money, and trust. That's the final new moon truth.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So that this is for basically all of November, right,
or this is for November okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, yeah, because that's the new moon in Scorpio, right,
So that's that's part of November and some of December.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah. I was kind of wondering that, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Because this is the Scorpio new mood. It's not even
going to be until November twentieth. Well, you won't even
be out of the new moon until four or five
days into December, and so you're going to be dealing
with this next month, and so we've really got to
(35:25):
face all of our patterns of trust and guilt and
doubt and shame and judgment. There are no fears. Release
the fears, release all of these intimacy issues that you're
bumping up against another person and realizing they are your teachers,
(35:46):
they're helping you, and you just go through the process
of that of what you defined, which was perfect, of
that driver that cuts you off? What is this showing me?
How is this teaching me? Did I have skin in
the game? Did I not have skin in the game?
Did I do this on purpose? Did I not do
(36:07):
this on This is the way I want to react.
Is there a better way to react?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And so go ahead, that's the process.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah. I was going to say, this feels like an
interesting I mean, it's not ever surprising, but it's a
good wrap up of the year in a way to
start inventoring some of our behaviors and the things that
are impacting us and really be reflective on that, you know.
I mean, it's not technically the end of the year astrologically,
I know, but like I think, because of the way
(36:41):
we operate, sometimes we do start to get a little
more reflective at this time of year, and you really
can start looking at what you want to bring into
the new year and what you want to release and
let go and leave in the past.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Well, we're only a month away from the winter solstice,
which is exactly defining what the winter solstice is about.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And think about what I said about till March, undue
beliefs on your old belief your patterns that do not
work and don't form any new ones because you don't
know all what's going.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
On behind the Yeah, we're not there and.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's the juput a retrograde message until March.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well, all right, act everyone, Marv. If people want to
know what's going on specifically for them, I always say,
it's a really good thing to have their own birth
chart read and do a session with you. So where
would they find you if they want to do that?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
At astro marvs dot com.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Marv dot com, Yeah right, Marvin, Oh you have both, Yeah,
I think Marvin Marvin at astromarv dot com. I'll put
that in the description of the podcast for you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
In case we were astro mark dot com.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yes, that's your website, astromarv dot com all of that.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
If they really want the full picture of me, they
can go to soul Fusionhealing dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Okay, sol Fusion.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's a wonderful website, and.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Your book is soul Fusion as well. So again, a
lot of information for you, guys, So I'll put it
in the description of this podcast to make sure we
didn't just confuse the hell out of you with all
of that. But go check that out. Go do a
session with Marv. That would actually be such a good
Christmas gift to give people. So if you have a
friend that's interested or anything like that. I always love
(38:32):
gifting people sessions with Marv. It's like an interesting gift
and nobody thinks of it, so an astrology session is
always a good way to go. So anyway, thank you
mar for being here with us, and we'll report back
in December and see how November one.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
All right, thanks for having me
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Thank you guys for listening.
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Kelly Henderson
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