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April 9, 2021 53 mins

This week’s topics range from aging parents to turkey hunting to Khloe Kardashian clapping back at haters for body shaming. The duo also try out some new endings for The Edge podcast.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I was about to say, slurp, slurp. I literally said,
are you ready to record? And you start taking a
big gold out of your out of my like it's
it's like a tank of water. Big golf day. I
bought a case of it because I'm locked in a
hotel room for a week and nothing's open in this hotel. Well,
why don't you tell us what you're doing? Because I

(00:24):
just said to you before we started recording, Um wow,
I had no idea you had such a tall order
on you this week. You're like nurse doorsh. Oh my gosh,
I'm like nurse and chaffer doorsh. So I mean, look,
it's no surprise at five years old, your parents are
starting to get old, and my parents are starting to
get old. And um so, my mom um probably two

(00:50):
months ago at this point, like ended up in the hospital.
She had pneumonia and didn't know it. And the crazy
thing was is when I was home for Christmas, I
could hear her wheezing and I've I've had asthma since
I was a kid, And I was like, mom, you
sound like you have asthma, Like this is crazy. I've
never heard you breathed like this. And I made her
try my inhalers and which is like a weird thing

(01:11):
to do. It's a weird sensation if you've not done
it before. It's like a burst of arrogetting shot into
your mouth that you're supposed to like breathe in real quick.
And so it was weird for her. And anyway, she
ends up in the hospital, which obviously was a bit
freaky because you know, if COVID and all that, well,
I was gonna say it sounds like it could like
with cod It wasn't. No, she had um. She had pneumonia.

(01:34):
I didn't know it. She'd had it since I was
home for Christmas, and and so her blood she had
gone in just for like a normal checkup, and they
noticed that her blood oxygen was really low, which is
weird because normally a symptom of that is like you
would have like blue lips, your hands would be really cold,
and she didn't have any of those physical symptoms, and

(01:56):
so they sent her They needed to like do a
pulmonary test, and the only place they could get her
in really quickly was the emergency room. So she went
to the emergency room to do it, and they're like, man,
you have pneumonia. So they admitted her, and thankfully it
was not related to COVID, but it was still really
scary to have her in the hospital for a few nights.
And because of it, she's now has to be on

(02:16):
oxygen tack. They found out she actually has co op D,
which is like a degenerative like lungs thing, and so
I mean, she doesn't have to be on it twenty
four hours a day, but it keeps her blood oxygen
levels like you wanted to be in range. She's got
this whole thing you put on your finger, um, and
I keep checking mine. I have like cimeters, I believe here.

(02:43):
The well, the reason I know that it's because when
I had COVID, they suggest you get one of those
to monitor your oxygen levels and if they drop to
a certain place, you know, I think it was if
they dropped below nine, I want to say, you need
to go to hospital, right, Okay, Well, good to know.
I've been checking of mine and I've got good blood
oxygen and a nice but um. But because of that,

(03:07):
So now the reason why I'm in Charlettsville is my
um father had back surgery, UM, and so I'm here
sort of as moral support for my mom and as
her chauffeur to I get her back and forth. You know.
It's like, I mean, I didn't know how challenging it

(03:27):
would be because it's also, um, you know, we have
to time everything out. You know. They also with her
oxygen tank. Yeah. She her tank only last for like
roughly five to six hours, depending on like how hard
she has it pumping. So um yeah, So I've been here.

(03:47):
He had surgery on Monday and it went really great.
They they had said that he would have to be
in the hospital to recover for five to six days minimum,
and they're they're actually letting him go home tomorrow, is
what they say today. Um they said it's likely that
he'll go home tomorrow, so great. Um yeah. So, but
it has been challenging because I'm like in a hotel

(04:09):
room with my mom and my two dogs. Yeah yeah,
So it's just been a lot to juggle. And the
hospital just has roles that like you can only have
one guest in the building at a time, so we
can't go over there together, which I guess is good
because it means that someone's always in the room with
the dogs and they're not like barking and annoying everybody
in the building. So right, Well, I think it was

(04:30):
so great that you were able to go. It is
so interesting as people age. I remember, I've been watching
my parents go through this over the last decade, but
it almost is like it resorts back to being a
child in some ways. And then like so it's so
interesting when you're taking care of your parents in that capacity,
you know, like such a full circle thing how life works. Yeah,

(04:53):
I mean my mom was like she forgets to turn
on her cell phone, Like, Mom, you have to keep
an eye on the tip. Like I mean, thankfully she
is in a hospital, you know, like so if if
something were to happen in terms of her oxygen, she's
in the best place possible. But yeah, so I'm not

(05:15):
really that worried. But yeah, it's just like parents are
getting old, you know. So and then I'm gonna my
dad because my my cars sits up higher than my
parents car. My sister arrived today. She is drying her
Her in laws just brought her out, dropped her off,
and went turned around and went back home. It was
like a two hour each way drive. And my sister

(05:38):
is gonna drive my mom home, and my dad's gonna
get in my car and I'm gonna drive him home
and then I'll spend a few days there. Probably have
to like mow their lawn, get him all settled, make
sure that we figure out like what his recovery routine
is gonna be, um, because like my mom doesn't even
know how to change her oxygen tact. So it's like,
I gotta make sure that she's pretty self sufficient when

(05:59):
we get her home so that, um, she doesn't have
to rely on him getting up to doing things that
she would normally just let him do. So yeah, good times. Really, seriously,
I'm thankful that I'm able to do it though. That's
been so appreciative. And she didn't want to admit it,
like she said she couldn't. She wasn't eating, like she

(06:22):
was so nervous about him. But she's she's being very
dramatic about it. So it's really funny. Last night she
was like, I mean, I told the nurses, this is
the longest we've been apart, and I was like, that's
not true. She does what do you mean? I was like, Mom,
Like we went We spent a weekend at my cousin's
wedding in South Dakota, and Dad wasn't there, and she
was like, oh yeah, And I was like, and there
was that time he liked had a work project in

(06:44):
Maryland and like basically like moved there for it. She's like, oh, yeah,
you just want this to be dramatic. She's like trying
to make Yeah. Yeah, she's totally romanticizing it. And that's
like such a notebook moment, you know, like like to
go into the hospital together and all that. Well. I

(07:05):
said to her, its because we were trying to figure
out this council for today, and I was like, you
might want my house dad if he wants you sitting
in his hotel room for six hours, like he might
just want some space. Lady like, oh my gosh, Well
you're a good son, and I'm really glad that you
can be there for them, and we're excited to get
you back at Nashville when all of this has passed, Yes,

(07:27):
hopefully sooner than later. I was telling you before that
you were telling me kind of what your update was
going to be, and I was like, well, mine's about
turkey hunting, which I mean I was not expecting that. Yeah,
it's a little bit of a different topic, a little
bit of a shift of topic here, but yeah, so
I it's turkey season here in Nashville. I don't know
if you knew that, but this is my new life.

(07:50):
And then you know what, we are supporting our families,
so we have that in listen, So that's exactly right.
And I gotta say so, know, I really have started
to enjoy hunting seasons and and for different reasons. I mean, listen,
every weekend being taken up is a little frustrating because
you're like, we want to do something other, like my

(08:13):
weekend to exactly so, and we don't do it like that.
But like, you know, my boyfriend plans out every weekend
right now because he is such a big hunter. He
does deer season and turkey season. So it's like, oh
my god, are you're freaking kidding? You were going to
another one right now. But I feel like in some ways,
if I lean in, I'm like really starting to embrace

(08:35):
this as kind of one of the best dates we
ever go on. It is so bizarre, but it's like
if I go out there with him and just sit
and like, well this is we used to sit in
the deer standards, but like with turkey hunting, we sit
kind of just in a chair in the trees. So
weird for me to say this. Do you do you
do anything sexual? If you yeah, You're like, listen, I

(09:01):
couldn't you Well, I cannot confirm or deny that that
did not happen in a deer stand. Okay, you're like,
this state's gotta ben. I know my poor mom, she
always listens and I'll give her way too much information.
But hey, he needs a T shirt that says I
took my girl hunting and all I shot was a load.

(09:28):
Oh my god, you better tea in that room. Oh
we can probably sell that to a lot of hunters.
Oh my god, add that to the merch list. Are
you serious that? How did you pop that off? I
have no idea. You better write it down before you forget. Okay,
So anyway we do we go like with the turkey

(09:49):
hunting this last weekend. It was so beautiful at Nashville.
It's like seventies and sunny. It's perfect. Um. I put
on my camera. We go sit in the trees and
my my um and in our chairs and it's like
so interesting because you have to sit there and you
have to be quiet. It's not like we're like able
to just like full blown have a conversation like you
and I are, but we start whispering or like having

(10:12):
conversations because we sat out there for probably like three hours,
and I cannot think of another situation where I could
get him to just sit and talk about Like there's
no TV, there's no I mean, we have our phones,
but really just don't pick them up for whatever reason. Um,
We'll start like you know, like we playing out schedule stuff,

(10:34):
which is awesome because it's like the other thing is
which we have no distractions like you're saying, and it's
like we don't have to be at work, we don't
have to whatever. Or it's like we get in these
like real life conversations about our relationship or about intentions
of how we want to be better people, and like you,
we really get into these deep conversations. So I'm like,

(10:54):
oh my god, dude, I like hunting now. It's like,
I mean, the thing is is like think that, um,
because I've never really been much of a hunter. My
dad was a hunter. He tried to get me into it,
and I'm too much of an animal over Like I
shocked the squirrels and I was so proud of myself.
And then the next thing I knew, my parents were
like called me like petting dead squirrels and crying like

(11:15):
I'm so sorry. I wanted to break my gun. I
was like, I'm gonna break my gun And how so tenderhearted?
That was so tenderhearted and um and the fact that
I had to come out ever like is such a joke,
but me, um, but I do think that like that
is one of the things that like people love about

(11:36):
hunting is like you're sort of left with your thoughts,
you know, like you can't you can't be on the
phone because what if a fucking deer goes by or
in this case of Turkey, like you have to be
really present and so the only thing you have is
nature and your thoughts, which and like that's the other
thing is the farm that he hunts on is beautiful,
you know, and so like when else do I take

(11:58):
the time to sit by myself and enjoy nature, you know,
Like those are the things that I think I realized
during COVID because we had so much downtime and we
would do stuff like this, and that's kind of how
he even suckered me into it in the first place.
But like then I just started realizing, like this is
actually really peaceful and really nice, and I really like it.
And luckily I've never seen him shoot something, because I

(12:20):
think that would kind of scar me. Um. I have though,
like I've gone and tracked a deer with him that
a friend of our shot, and so like I've seen
the dead animals. He shot a turkey that two days
ago and I yeah, he got one, and so he
shows up yesterday with it, and so I will said,

(12:40):
this is the one point I wanted to make for
whoever's listening or the people who are like coming at
me on Instagram, which I'm just so over by the way,
like get alive, Like I just like can't ye. Anyway,
we will get to that because there's there's a topic
that we want to cover on that conversation. But so
I posted about me being in Camo and doings like

(13:00):
a couple of that guests this is last weekend, and
somebody was like, oh, now you're just killing innocent animals
and like okay, okay, maybe, but also we eat everything
that he kills, like literally, we lived our whole winter
living off of this dear meat that from his dear season,
and we put it in everything we make, dear tacos,

(13:22):
your spaghetti, your sausage, like everything. I actually love dear
meat now because it's a lot leaner and like just
not as heavy as beef. And so unless you're a vegetarian,
you're not doing anything different than we are. We're actually
like we know where this meat is coming from. It's
not shoved full of like tons of chemicals and you know,
gross stuff captain a cage. Like it's not inhumane at all.

(13:47):
It's outliving its life and like this is the circle
of life in my opinion. And I'm a meat eater,
so like as long as we're using it, I don't
really see an issue, Like, well, there's also there. I
mean there's a reason why there are season self hunting too,
because there's the population control um and and for me,
like it's obviously like personally have a problem with myself

(14:12):
hunting because of the actual killing aspect of it, Like
I have a hard time doing that. But I am
a meat eater. So it's like my my my uncle,
every every time he gets um a deer, he gives
my parents a ton of it. So I mean I
can't say most people eat turkey on Thanksgiving, Like where
do they think that comes from? I know this is

(14:33):
where I was just like okay, I mean I didn't
even write back. I think I deleted the comment because
I just got annoyed by it. But again, it's one
of those things where it's like I have to give
my boyfriend this credit. He is so responsible with all
of this, Like, you know, everything he follows is totally
based on the Tennessee Protocol for how to do this,
like there's all these laws about hunting made way, and

(14:56):
like anyway, he just follows everything and he's not like
over killing or killing on other people's properties or anything
like that. And we eat everything, literally every single part
of that, you know. And so I'm just like I
don't know. I just think it's sort of like to
each his own and if that's not for you, I
totally understand. Like I'm not forcing you to eat meat
or anything, but like get off my ship because I'm

(15:18):
a meat eater. Right. Well, um, my question about turkey
hunting like deer hunting, like I get the sort of
like I'm you never like you kind of never know
when a deer is going to show up or like
walk through where you are, but like turkeys are migratory birds,
like they go to the same places, So what is

(15:39):
hunting turkey? Like don't you just kind of know where
the turkey you're gonna be and you go get them
like you no, I mean they're around the property, but
like you know, and you'll start to identify, like we
start to be like, oh, there's that same one, there's
that same gobbler or whatever. Like, first of all, who
the fuck am I right now? Gobbler? And then I
like I can tell the difference a gobbler and a

(16:01):
hen and a jake is like a teenage gobbler, Like
I just know all these things now that it's like
I don't know, that's like the teenage just like the
young gobblers, and so he doesn't shoot the jake's because
that's just not what he does. Only the gobblers. You
don't shoot the hens either. So yeah, it's really weird.
But anyway, fun fact anybody looking to get hunting. Yeah,

(16:29):
I've got a wealth of knowledge for you guys, But um,
what did you ask me? Oh? The turkey season. So
it's like you do start to like notice them around
the property, I guess, but you know, there's so many
things happening, like they get so easily spooked or like
where he hunts, there's horses in nearby fields and so
like if the horse nigh is the wrong way, the

(16:51):
turkeys run off, you know, like there's rectors that play
into it. Um so, yeah, it's just really interesting. It's
actually like a fascinating to watch the whole thing. It's
just that I will tell you, a turkey is not
a very pretty bird. They are like they're kind of
scary looking. Yeah, my favorite thing is watching them run
off when they get spooked, because they look like chickens

(17:13):
with their heads cut off, like you know, yeah, so funny,
so funny. Anyway, before I get in trouble with like Peter,
I guess I should stop this conversation. But um so,
that's my update is I'm going to be out doing
that again this weekend. We have people coming in town
to actually do it, like families. This is like a

(17:33):
whole thing. Now you're now you're running hunting tours. I'm
literally like a tour out of a hunt of hunting season,
hunting lodge. We need to get you like a cute
little lodge outfit went hunt. What did you say to
start was went hunting with took my girl hunting, and

(17:53):
all I shot was alone. Okay, that's our new to
that's our name mark shirt. For sure. Nobody can steal
that one. Yes, you all heard that here first, for sure,
here first on the edge. I'm gonna go I'm gonna
google it while we're on here, just to make sure
anyone else has been clever, more clever than us. I

(18:16):
cannot believe someone hasn't thought of that yet, but maybe not.
The fact that it just rolled off your tongue is
what really really got me. Let's see, I don't see
where it's come up. The first thing that comes up
is twelve mistakes men make when hunting with women. We

(18:38):
need to research that and do a whole episode on that.
Is it funny? Um? Let me look real quick, um,
twelve mistakes men make. The next one is like hunting
walls in Maine. Um, let's see, underestimating the importance of comfort.
Oh yeah, guy, So like, guys are just so intense.

(19:02):
I mean, he's like shifting in the woods early in
the morning because he's got to get out there at
like four am. I'm like, the you could not pay
me to ship in the woods. Just to be out
there to hunt a turkey. UM number two with the
image of you in the woods's disgusting. Disgusting. UM number

(19:24):
two behaving condescendingly because big girls do cry. Number three.
This is also it feels kind of a misogynistic call
of the thinking a little bit. Number three not helping
with shooting practice before the hunt. That makes sense. UM
number four being crude or rude. This is number number
five not putting safety first. UM number six showing lack

(19:48):
of respect for the lives taken. Number seven pushing the shot.
I don't even know what some of themself means, like
we're pushing the job. Number eight not listening or communicating.
There you it sounds like my guys really honest. Yeah.
Nine not displaying a lack of patients, ten treating the
woman as if she's frail, eleven focusing only on the kill,

(20:11):
and twelve underestimating the female hunters capabilities. So it's not
terribly misogynistic, but some of that stuff is a little
bit like being like dumb. Yeah, well, it looks like
our T shirt is not taken, So I'm envisioning a
came a T shirt. Yes, maybe a cute little cropped
camera for the ladies. Yeah, we could make one for

(20:34):
the latest sake went hunting with my man and all
he shot was a load. All he shot was his load.
Yeahs all, what kind of classy girl is going to
wear that? I don't know, but mad respect. If you're
if you're quality enough to do it, well you know
what I'm looking for, don classy ladies, that's your type.

(20:55):
Yeah okay, Well, so the funny thing about the topic
that we wanted to cover today is the second we
got on a zoom call, I was going to say, clearly,
we're not going to be using this video because look
at me, because I just got straight out of the shower.
My hair's at air drid, no makeup on. Just like
wearing your boyfriend's shirts. Well it's a boyfriend's style shirt,

(21:18):
but it's technically my shirt. It's not that he could
except it's pink, so you know, it looks a little
It's it's funny because I mean it looks just like
tan and brown and white. Yeah, he could totally get
away with it. But anyway, it made me think like,
oh yeah, I would probably never post this to socials
because I look like shit, and um, you know you

(21:40):
want to present your best foot forward, like we've talked about.
Which is interesting though, because it made me immediately think
of the topic we wanted to talk about today, which
if you haven't heard about this, Chloe Kardashian is all
over the press today. And I guess this was yesterday
that this happened or two days ago, because there was
a situation where they've always sit to blame the assistant.

(22:01):
I don't really understand if that's what happened, but somebody
took an unedited photo of her in a bathing suit
and posted it on her socials and some of the
lighting was weird, I guess, or whatever. For whatever reason,
her body didn't look the way that she wanted it to,
or that was um indicative of how it actually looks,

(22:21):
and so they try to get it removed from the internet.
But there's been this whole wave of ship from people
like commenting on her body and saying like that her
actual body is fake or the one we usually see
as fake and um edited and what does it really
look like? And so Chloe fired back today and you
sent me this article, do you want to take it

(22:42):
from here? Sure? Yeah, I mean I've I've found an article.
The funny thing is is like, normally I feel like
I would have tried to find the photo and I didn't.
I did, which is interesting, and I couldn't. I can't
find it. Um. Yeah, I think they may have gotten
it taken down. UM. But basically there's an article on
CNN that says that she's speaking out regarding the unedited photo,

(23:05):
and UM, you know, she put out a statement on
Instagram that, UM, I think there's so many there's so
much of it. Like Basically, what she did to sort
of in retaliation was she went live on Instagram and
also put up some like did like a carousel of
videos and stories of herself in her underwear, completely unedited, unfiltered, um,

(23:27):
just to sort of take it back, take back her
ownership of her body. And then she put up a
message and said, hey guys, this is me and my body,
unretouched and unfiltered. The photo that was posted this week
is beautiful, but as someone who has struggled with body
image her whole life, when someone takes a photo of
you that isn't flattering and bad lighting, it doesn't capture
your body the way it is after working so hard

(23:48):
to get it to this point and then shares it
to the world. You should have every right to ask
fort to not be shared, regardless of who you are.
In truth of the pressure, constant ridicule and judgment, my
entire life to be perfect and to meet everyone's standards
of how I should look has been too much to bear.
Chloe is the fat sister. Chloe is the ugly sister.
Her dad must not be the real dad because she

(24:10):
looks so different. The only way she could have lost
that weight must have been surgery. Should I go on?
And she continues on the next side. Oh, but who
cares how she feels because she grew up in a
life of privilege. She's also on a reality show, so
she signed up all of this. I'm, of course not
asking for sympathy, but I'm asking to be acknowledged for
being human. I'm not perfect, but I promise you that

(24:32):
I try every day to live my life as honestly
as possible and with empathy and kindness. It doesn't mean
that I have not made mistakes, but I'm not going
to lie here. I'm it's almost unbearable trying to live
up to the impossible standards of the public have set
all set for me for over a decade non photos.
Every single flaw and imperfection has been micro analyzed and
made fun of to the smallest detail, and I'm reminded

(24:53):
of I'm reminded of them each and every day, and
when I take the criticism to use as motivation to
get myself in the best shape of my life and
to even help others with the same struggles I'm told
I could have done, I couldn't have done it through
hard work, and I must have paid for it all.
On the next slide, she says he never quite gets
used to being judged and pulled apart, and how about
and told how unattractive one is. But I will say,

(25:16):
if you hear anything enough, then you start to believe it.
This is an example of how I've been conditioned to feel.
And I'm not that I am not beautiful enough just
being me. I love a good filter, good lighting, and
an edit here and there, the same way I throw
in some makeup, get my nails done, and and wear
a pair of heels to present myself to the world
the way that I want to be seen. And that's

(25:37):
exactly what I will continue to do unapologetically. My body,
my image, and how I choose to look, and what
I want to share is my choice. It's not for
anyone to decide or judge what is acceptable or not.
For those of you who feel the constant pressure of
not feeling perfect enough, I want you to know how
no I see you and I understand every day I'm
told by my family and my friends who loved me

(25:58):
that I am beautiful, but I know that it needs
to it needs to be believed from within. We are
all unique and perfect in our own way, whichever way
one chooses to be seen. I have realized that we
cannot continue to live life trying to fit into a
perfect mold of what others have set up for us.
Just do you and make sure that your heart is happy.

(26:18):
I'm the first one to say, like I'm you know,
I could care less about the Kardashian clan, Like I'm
not a fan. I also don't hate them. I do
think that they're like they've caused problems in our world,
um in terms of like social media and stuff. But
like this one hit home for me, and it's so true.
It's like I don't care what you do for a

(26:38):
job or how you put yourself out there. It's not
licensed to be judged or made fun of. And you know,
it made it made me think, like I've struggled with
my body image my whole life. And I know I'm
a great person. I know I'm special, and I know
that there's beautiful things about me, but like, I'll come
home for Christmas and the first thing out of my
dad's mouth is, Wow, you've it on weight, And I'm

(27:00):
just like, are you fucking kidding me? Like you think
I don't know that I've put on weight. I need
you to tell me that it's happened. Go fuck yourself, dad, Like,
that's exactly what I said to him, because I knew
he was going to do it, and so I was
prepared to do it. I was like, and it's like,
you're not skinny either, so why are you saying that
to me? And I think that's that's often what happens,

(27:22):
because I catched myself like making fun of people that
I don't know, and I'm not proud of it. So
I'm going to do my best to be better about it.
But you know, it's like I think a lot of
times it comes from a place of pain, Like we
make fun of the things that we don't like about
ourselves and people. Um, And you know, the Internet obviously

(27:43):
has sort of exacerbated the problem because you can hide
behind a keyboard and just make fun of people. And
Chloe and her sisters and family live a very public life,
a lot of it online. So it's like they like
they stepped into the fox den. You know, It's like,
but I do, Okay. So one of my favorite things
that she said in this whole post was, oh, but

(28:05):
who cares how she feels because she grew up in
a life of privilege. She's also on a reality show
since she signed up for all of this, and I
just really buy into that. I mean, I've had my
own experiences with this, but I think that it it
when I when all of that stuff was going on
with me and being on the reality show and then
getting annihilated by people like trolls who did not know

(28:26):
what had happened at all. Um, it made me realize
how much people just think that because you put yourself
out there, or because you're on a show or you
have an Instagram following or whatever it is, that you're
just like free game. And it's like she calls it
out and says, like, I'm not asking for sympathy, but
just like acknowledge the fact that like I'm a fucking human,

(28:49):
so like I even if I'm on a TV show,
and yes, that brings me, uh positive stuff. And like,
you know, maybe I have a lack of privilege because
I grew up with money, are now I have even
more and X, Y and Z. That doesn't take away
from the human nature of all of us and the
insecurities that we all have no matter who you are.

(29:10):
That is the thing that like I realized the most
was that people just assume if you are in the
public eye and any capacity, or you have any sort
of privilege, that that kind of feeling shouldn't matter to you.
And it feels terrible no matter how famous, no matter
how much money you have, Like it just gets in

(29:31):
your head, like she said, And that's I think she
just makes really really great points here and on a
bigger scale, this is sort of what we've been talking
about realizing through COVID and all of the Black Lives
Matters and white you know, white privilege conversations coming up
so much just like all of us at the end

(29:52):
of the day are being asked to level up and
to really look at the human nous of everybody around us, ourselves,
our friends, strangers, and just offer like compassion and grace
versus just hate or assumptions or judgment or criticism, because
at the end of the day, like you said, it

(30:12):
really is more about you if you're the one sitting
there doing that kind of stuff. Yeah, and like look
she mentioned bad lighting. Yeah, I mean for anyone out
there listening who doesn't work in any sort of media
job or a photograph or video is part of what
they do. Like literally the most important person on set

(30:34):
is the person who does the lighting. Like lighting makes
a photograph. And if you want a bad photo, like
sit by the pool and use natural light because it's hard.
It shows every bump, every whatever. And I actually just
found the photo while you were talking, and that's all
it is. It's a photo of her standing by the
pool in direct sunlight, so like you just see the

(30:59):
nature of this skin of her body, which literally anyone
it would be an unflattering photo for anybody. Yeah, it's
just not how she would want herself presented to the
world because of all the fucking hate she's gotten her
entire life, Like she she honestly, of all people, I

(31:19):
feel like I can't win because it's like she has
been called the ugly sister. She's been all of the
stuff about having a different dad and like all of
that stuff would be so hard. Well, then she does
go do stuff like maybe she got a nose job
or did something I don't know, and then people like
get on her about that. So it's like what do
you guys want? Like you get on me because I

(31:40):
look you think I don't look pretty enough. Well, then
I go do these things because I'm so insecure and
I have to, you know, my job requires me to
continue to put myself out there. And then all you
do is annihilate me for the work that I've had done.
Or how do you know? Yeah, because I mean I
think she really did kind of so that whole revenge

(32:01):
body thing, you know, like I think she really does
work out and eat right and all of those things too. Well,
there's there's there's not a plastic surgeon on earth that
can make a body make that sort of transformation. Like, yeah,
she might have had some stuff done, but like she
changed her body, like totally. You can't have fake ads.

(32:22):
You just can't, like, yes, can you paint them on
and make them look a little different, of course she can,
but those are those are real ads. I think all
of those Kardashians have that surgery where they suck the
fat out of their stomach and put it in their ass,
and that's how their asses are so big. But I
also think that they work out really hard, Like we
know people who have had that surgery, and like they

(32:43):
don't look like this because they don't. It's like you've
got to actually do the work too. You can't just
buy it all. But right right, I just think I
felt really like happy for her to speak out and
like like, I look at this picture. You just sent
it to me. So yesterday, um, we were or this
is when we were still out at the farm. I
didn't know anyone was around, and I was laying out

(33:05):
and I started doing yoga in the front yard because
I was trying to stretch because my back hurt. And
so my boyfriend came up and he was like, this
is hilarious and starts taking pictures of me. Well, so
yesterday I had a friend over and he was showing
them like kind of like laughing, and I hadn't seen
the pictures yet, and so he shows me and it's
very similar to this, Like I thought I looked a

(33:26):
certain way probably in those pictures because like I've been
trying to work out really hard, and I mean, just
like all I could see in the pictures because it's
direct sunlight, is stellulite all down the back of my thighs,
you know. And I'm in this place where I'm getting
called lady and I've been a little insecure about my
age stuff happening right now, and so it hit me.

(33:47):
I was like kind of depressed for like an hour
because I'm like, Damn, I just don't look like I
used to look. But it sucks that we have to
feel that way, or that we wouldn't just appreciate our
bodies for the amazing things that they are and feel
confident and beautiful no matter what. Right, Yeah, I mean, look,
I think that, um, we we also can't have a

(34:14):
blanket ideal of what is beautiful because there are plenty
of people that love short people, there are plenty of
people that love bigger people. Like who's to say, like
what is the ideal? You know? I do think that
like obviously the fashion world in some of those places
control that narrative a little bit more and I think

(34:36):
it needs to be on them a bit too, sort
of level the playing field a bit, you know. And
I do think that there are there are plenty of
like sort of plus size models who have like broken
through the pact, and but you know, I still think
that there is from the fashion world, there is a
really unrealistic, um sort of reality that they portray that

(35:03):
probably always existed, but everything feels so exacerbated since social
media became such a big thing, right because nobody's putting
up the bad photos of themselves. And this is the
point right here, Yeah, like nobody does, Like why would
you want to even on the dating sites. It's like,
I mean, you only put up the best photos of yourself,
which what's really kind of you know, is not smart,

(35:27):
especially if they're not realistic photos, because at a certain
point you're gonna have to meet somebody in person and
they're gonna be like, wait a minute. Um. So you know,
I think it's I think it's wise just to like
it's this is gonna sound a little probably easier said
than done, but I think it's just like we have
to like do our best to accept who we are

(35:49):
and know ourselves in our hearts and and trust that
someone will see that through our dating profiles, what we
put online and all that stuff. So Verse is trying
to like create these unreal, unrealistic expectations for ourselves. Right. Well,

(36:15):
I mean I will say like this has been it's
in fact, this week has been on my mind because
this is so dumb. But after the lady conversation, you know,
where that little teenage girl, that little teenage bitch, I
should say kidding, called me lady, I was like, what,
I'm not a lady, you know. I'm like, I don't
know what I think I am, but I would just
was like, I'm not a lady. Well, then we go.

(36:37):
I went to work out this week and apparently a
friend of mine got a text from the instructor of
the class we were in after the class saying, who
was the woman with you? And I was like, a woman?
You know. I just literally I'm not a girl, not
yet a woman, is how I feel. But I mean

(36:58):
I guess I am. I'm almost I'm thirty nine in July,
so it's like I guess that is a woman. But
I really it like really hit me hard, and I
just thought to myself, oh my god, like here I
am thinking I'm like getting back into shape after coronavirus
and like just really feeling better about myself, and all
of these things really took a hit on me for
some reason, because I think as women, there's so much

(37:20):
pressure to feel young and beautiful and hot and all
these things, and like, the truth is we are all
going to age at some point, like you cannot that
is the one thing, right, And so I said to
a friend yesterday, like, I really you know, started to go,
oh my god, what do I need to do? Like

(37:40):
do I need to go get another laser treatment? So
I need some micro needling, like you know, like I'm like,
oh my god, I need a spray tan. Immediately, like
I was just like going through all these things in
my head, and then I thought to myself, you know
what I really probably need to do is do some
internal work, and like, why is this bothering me so much?
Because at the end of the day, let's all be real,
it's like it's going to fade. But the hottest thing

(38:02):
about any any person to me ever, is there confidence.
And so if you're if you're confident in your own skin,
if you're appreciating yourself for who you are, and your
whole self and not just trying to, you know, present
yourself to the world as this hot like being that
just fills our egos. Um, that's going to be the

(38:23):
stuff that lasts. So no matter what situation you're in,
or whether or not you're in the public eye or whatever.
I think that's going to be my new goal, at
least personally, is just to feel really confident in my
own skin because of who I am, not because of
what I look like. Right, I think that's a really
important lesson. Um, we shouldn't We should start like a

(38:45):
like an on your body day, like the Kardashian clan
should do it. Or it's like everyone kind of does
what Chloe did and just put yourself on display. Because
the thing is is like I think that what most
of us, a lot of people do, and I know
I'm guilty of this, so I probably shouldn't speak for

(39:05):
anybody but myself. But like you hide it, you know,
and the second you can say I mean, just like
when I admitted to shipping my pants, Like it's like
the second that you speak that sort of truth, it's
like any shame or whatever that comes along with it,
like it goes off the door because you've owned that truth.

(39:26):
So like there's there's nothing more powerful than I think,
like being like you know, here I am. Here's my
body on display, like it is what it is like
And because then the second that you start to love
your body, then people can't use it as a weapon
against you. Um. Yeah, so maybe we should. You should

(39:46):
name a day and start a revolution. Um. Like you know,
it's funny. You know it's funny because you know I
was probably guilty of this is a kid like the
like the overweight kids that like get in the pool
in their swift in their T shirt and then they
come out and they're basically like, you look, you gotta
looks fatter because yeah, like it looks huge and you know,

(40:09):
so it's like and it's like it's always you know,
I'm like I've gotten to a point in my life
where I'm like, if I'm at the beach or the pool,
my shirt's coming off, like because no, it's not a
secret that I need to lose weight. Like I know it.
Everyone around me knows it. It's fine, like and I'm
fine with that, but it's I always find it really
interesting when there's like an adult with his shirt on
at the you know, I'm like, God, like, what kind

(40:31):
of trauma is this person still dealing with? Um, we
go ahead, well because to me, like to your point
about confidence, Like for me, it's like you're still the
big guy in the room, so it's like your own
that and be confident about it or leave your shirt
only get in the pool and like then you're sort
of wearing your shame so publicly. Yeah, well then, oh sorry.

(40:59):
I was just gonna say, I hate when we have
to do these zooms just for this reason, But I
was just gonna say I think, like you know, Chloe
addresses it, and you're addressing it in a way of
um feeling like overweight or you know, maybe not in
your best shape ever, whatever it is. But it can
go for anything, because like I deal with it, and
there's gonna be people be people listening who are like, Okay,

(41:21):
I'm so sorry you're so skinny, but go get on
my Instagram and look at my captions and look at
the people shaming me for being so skinny. And like
I've just always been skinny by the way, like legit
was born a long and skinny, and um, I used
to have to be a weight gain like when I
was in high school, because I've been so active, so
it's a different issue. Though I've been insecure about that

(41:42):
in my lifetime because like really gangly looking and awkward
and like the other part that you know, I've really
had to own about myself is like I have really
small boobs. They're great, Like I love them, I can
wear whatever I want. I even like to shape of them,
all of it. But I've had to really like mentally,
there are days and especially like in bathing suits and stuff,

(42:03):
where I'm sitting next to you know, a lot of
our friends have like gigantic boobs and I'm just like,
oh my fucking god, i feel like it's teenage boy,
and like, you know, these are like real women and
they just it just like there's a part of me
that I think has always felt like inadequate for that.
But I've also really tried to give myself talk a
positive spin, because like I wouldn't be able to dress

(42:26):
the way that I dress. There the you know, the
feel the way that I feel in clothes if I
had big boobs, And so there's pluses and honestes to everything,
but like I think what you're saying about embracing your
shape and your body no matter what it looks like.
That's going to be the key, because you know, everyone
has their ship. I guess it is my point, right, Yeah,

(42:47):
I mean that's like, well, I have I have a
I have a friend that like wouldn't um well, I've
never seen him in charts and I don't know why.
I don't know what it is. I don't know if
he like has a weird leg, I don't know. But
it's like something we just don't talk about, like literally
the pool, worst change and the beach or wouldn't go
to or wouldn't go to the beach. So that's sad

(43:10):
to not even be able to live your life because
of an insecurity about your body, you know, Like I
just hate that for anybody. So anyway, I'm glad Chloe
clapped back the way she did. I thought it was
very um to the point, but like it wasn't crude
or mean or like, it was exactly the right amount
of sass to really get her point across. And she

(43:30):
nailed the points too. It was just smart. It was
very well smart. Yeah. Um okay, So I want to
jump into a couple of listener feedback things and questions.
But I'm still getting like, literally every week, I get
multiple things about Sledapalooza and people are just like, this
is so for Chip. But this was a meme that said,

(43:52):
this lady on the plane said vax and wax baby,
I'm ready for some action on this trip, and that
that should be everyone's vibe this summer vaccine that's actually okay.
Added to the list vaxed wax. I mean, how good
is that? I died? I thought it was so funny. Um. So,

(44:15):
this girl Harmony wrote in about what we were talking
about on our ending and she said, hey, Kelly, I
was thinking about a sign off for the Edge episode.
What about just stay edgy or keep it edgy? Do
we have thought? Yeah? Um, well, why don't we practice

(44:36):
them today and see how it goes? That always goes
so well for us, you know, all right, I'm gonna
read this email and they asked to keep it anonymous.
But you did make a call last week for um
a slut of the Week stories and I really can't.
I just can't fully get on board with that name.
So if you guys have any other ideas for that, like,

(44:58):
how do we like make this empowering thing that we're
not just encouraging I don't know, crude slutty behavior. I
don't know. I just love the stories though, I do
think they're so funny. But there's something that's not sitting
right for me. Well, I think it needs to be
like That's why I said, like proud slut of the Week,
you know, because it's like you're owning it. Yeah. I

(45:20):
guess I have such a bad negative connotation with the
words slut in my head. Yeah. Well, that's what we're
trying to that's what we're trying to change. We're taking change,
starting another revolution. Because you're so busy. We're so busy,
we have so much to do in the world. Want
um Okay. So this comes from quote unquote anonymous, and

(45:44):
she said, after I got divorced from my first husband,
I moved away half across the country for a job
and had the best year of my life. Nothing was
holding me back from finding my mojo and I could
write you pages and pages of stories of my slutter
Palooza of two thousand and three. And here's one of
the tops. There was a club my friends and I

(46:05):
went to all all the time. One night there was
the guy I was flirting with across the room all night.
As we were walking out of the bar, I'm sorry, gosh,
here we go. As we were walking out at bar close,
I saw he went into the bathroom by the exit.
I walked up to one of the bouncers, asked for
a paper and pen to write my number one, and

(46:26):
then took the number. Walked into the bathroom where he
was finishing up at the urinal, buttoning his pants back up,
not still peeing L O L, and I planted a
kiss on him, left my number in his pocket, and
walked out before I even got Before I even got home,
I had multiple text messages from him asking to please
come over. Text messages turned into him calling me, having

(46:49):
a quick conversation, and me jumping into a taxi at
three ams ahead to his house. Never talked to him
again after I left his house later that morning. But
it's the one that is stuck on my mind that
is amazing. How ballsy is that? Balls like that to me?
Isn't slutty, That is ballsy. She knew what she wanted
and she just went for it. Yeah, And I think that, like,

(47:11):
I mean, honestly, I feel like guys respond to that,
you know, like you can't. You kind of have to
just go there with guys. Well, I think it depends
on what you want. But she was pretty clear that
she was in and like auslt a pullose a phase.
So like, I mean, how fun does that sound? That
sounds so fun, sounds amazing. I can't wait to hear
stories like that from you. Well, I was going to

(47:33):
bust into and give someone I was hoping to be
a little slutty while I was in Charlotsville this week
in a hotel. But you know, I'm sharing the room
with my mom, So like, how are you going to
go out and can be like, hey, want to come
back to my room. My mom's already sleeping. Mom's passed out,
she sleeps real heavy. Don't worry about her oxygen tank. K. Yeah,
don't don't trip over the cord everywhere and there's dogs.

(47:58):
I mean, like not going to start. Yeah, it is
definitely the least sexy situation happened. Okay, well we'll work
on your start. I don't think it's happening this week,
but I feel like it's soon. I really it's it's coming.

(48:22):
All right. Well, that's all we have for you guys
this week, give us your feedback at casual atl dot com. Still,
we will change the email at some point. I mean,
maybe this should just be the one going joke though,
is that we're literally the slowest people to get ship done,
like ever, we're hey, we're looking at blanks. We got
an email today. Actually it wasn't our fault. The wholesaler's

(48:47):
site has been down, so I mean maybe the other
two weeks of not doing it or my phone. I'm
honestly still trying to get back into work with I
don't remember how to work long days. It's like so
it throws me so bad. If I have to dreaming,
it's all that day dreaming about turkey humming. It's just
like sitting around. You can't wait to be back on

(49:10):
the range. You know how Am I going to make
it this week? Powerful school? In my so? My god,
we're not talking about a gun people, Okay, I was,
I'm not and on that you guys, so keep it

(49:37):
edgy or okay, do we actually kind of like keep
it edgy? But I was, let me just try this
to and I always remember, okay, wait are you going
or am I going? You? I think we should like
we used to say and always remember, and I'll do
I'll say, keep it edgy or stay edgy. Okay, I'll go,

(49:59):
so I say and always remember stay edgy. You sucked
on that, and that's terrible. I feel I feel like
we want to be like living live it on the edge.
But if it's living, it's the live life. How about
live life on the edge that feels like live left

(50:19):
love to me? Literally my favorite I can't live laugh edge.
It's so dumb. But that is so dumb. I'm embarrassed.
We can't live it on live, Live it on the edge,
act casual. Listen. I know you don't want to do this,

(50:43):
but you're gonna have to let go of that capital.
How about how about stay edgy, bitches? Stay edgy bitches.
I don't know, stay edgy, motherfucker's you can't. You can't
be driving your kids to school and listen to that. Yeah,
right exactly. I wish you guys could see what I'm

(51:04):
seeing right now too. Maybe I will have to use
this video just for this. Chip is like a leaned
back in this chair. There's this huge like dead fish
on the wall. Well it's not a real dead fish.
It's a waho Just so y'all know, the wahoo is
what I'm in Charlottesville, which is the home of the
University of Virginia, and the mascot for the sports team
is the Cavaliers, but the fans are called the Wahoo's

(51:27):
and the wahoos, which that's a waho um. They are
a fish that can drink twice their weight in water.
So yeah, so it's the fans are wahos because you
get drunk as ship at v A before Okay, I
was going to say, does that have to do with
alcohol intake? Yes, we drink twice our weight in alcohol.

(51:49):
These fish drink twice are weight and Water's interesting. Well,
thank you for that educational level. Like we've all learned
a lot here today. We've learned about and deer and
now lowing your load. Add on that note, always remember
stay edgy, bitches. Maybe we just say y'all stay at

(52:14):
y'all or is that two country? I like, keep it edgy, y'all,
keep it edgy, bitches. I mean, I like you saying
bitches in that deep, raspy voice. It reminds me of
a like a waitress at I'm sorry, a server at
waffle house. Or something that smells like yeah, it's like

(52:34):
three am, and she's like, keep it edgy, bitches. Thanks
for the tip, bitches. Yeah, okay, well for now, let's
go and keep it edgy bitches. Are you ready? Okay? Yes,
on the count at three, one, two, three. Always remember
keep it edgy, bitches,
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