September 3, 2025 • 39 mins
Astrologer Marvin Wilkerson returns to Velvet’s Edge to break down the powerful cosmic shifts happening with the Virgo New Moon and upcoming Pisces Eclipse.
We explore:
- What Virgo energy really means—service, humility, and the “womb of time” where transformation begins.
- How this New Moon calls us to digest life experiences, face self-criticism, and find spiritual clarity.
- Why Uranus squaring the New Moon could shake up rigid routines and spark intuitive breakthroughs.
- The Pisces Eclipse and how it asks us to confront illusions, prejudice, and the deeper wounds of humanity.
- Pluto and Mars—why suppressed conflict can’t stay hidden and how to channel it into conscious action.
Marv shares how these energy patterns are pushing us to release outdated habits, balance service with self-truth, and find footing in chaotic times. Whether you’re a Virgo, Pisces, or just feeling the collective weight, this episode is a guide for navigating the next six months with clarity and purpose.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm Marv.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello Kelly.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We were just talking about these astrology podcasts that we
do and you gave a really good definition. I'm not
going to give it perfectly, I'm sure, but you said
you are always wanting to bring people the energy of
what is coming in the next month. When we're doing
these podcasts, like with the new moon, with all of
the other transits that are happening, it's more about the
energy so that people can figure out how that is
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playing into their lives and look at how they can
work with it well.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And the thing about it is is they're going to
work with the energy. They're going to recognize it in
whatever part of their life that it is occurring, right,
they'll recognize it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We're in an interesting time now because astrology is so
universally discussed and I don't really in my lifetime at least,
there has not been another time period where that has
been the case. And so it's interesting because on one hand,
people know a lot about the terms of astrology. You know,
like this month we're talking about a Virgo new moon.
It's Virgo season. We just came out of Leo season,
(01:15):
and you and I will say things like that, but
your biggest fear is that people are kind of misinterpreting
what certain things are because they're not professional astrologers, and
there's so much just pop astrology out there kind of
ebbing and flowing into this like basic level astrology stuff,
and that's not fully the purpose of astrology. The purpose
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is to work with the energy and to have awareness
about what's happening so that you can see what the
universe is mirroring to you. Or that's how I use
it at least. But that's why working with someone like
you is a little more helpful, because there's so many
different facets than just like, oh, there's a virgo new
moon happening. There's like all these other things happening too, right, right,
(01:57):
that's it. That is the shortest answer you. I thought
you were right. I was like, that's not a bar answer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
All. I thought that was a pretty good general breakdown. Okay,
exactly what we're trying to accomplish. I mean, you know,
when we're talking about Virgo, you know, the very first
thing that I put down in our outline is digestion
and the simulation of life experiences, and that's what astrology is. Now,
how do I help you digest and assimilate the energy
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that's working for all of us, and it's working for
all of us on a personal level, it's working for
all of us on a social level. And really this
month is so huge because Virgo is the critical, analytical, evaluating,
judging sign of the zodiac. So we are for six
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months going to be under that auspicis of Virgo, of
critically analyzing and evaluating. Now you know, the problem with
Virgo is ay look outside of themselves to evaluate things.
The problem with Scorpio, which is on the other end
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of the scales of Libra, is that they look internally
to evaluate everything. Well, guess what it needs to be flipped.
Virgo needs to look and evaluate themselves and Scorpio needs
to look outside of themselves to get correct feedback instead
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of being so fearful about feeling ultrasensitive and being seen.
That's Scorpio's biggest conundrum being seen. I mean, if you
can imagine that at the deepest of all levels, see
Virgo and Scorpio are the only three constellations that are connected.
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So virgos on one end of the scale, Scorpio is
on the other end of the scale of Libra. And
when you look up in the sky. It's balancing. It's
got to be balanced. And the way we balance virgo
is evaluate what we see and how we perceive it. Now,
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when we perceive something, my way of seeing it is
you have to use universal law to understand if this
is the correct way of perceiving it, or if this
is coming out of my ego personality and I've got
some sort of fear or protection mechanism that's rejecting whatever
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I'm seeing and feeling. So Virgo is to assimilate, just
simply a digest us to assimilate. And in the full moon,
which we've got a eclipse of the full moon, well
that's going to last six months, and the full moon
is about stop polarization. So this whole conversation today is
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going to be about how we are so polarized amongst ourselves,
amongst society, and how are we going to get out
of the polarization. To become more evolved in consciousness, we
have to accept the dark and the light on equal terms.
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You can't just say, oh, I'm just going to be
all pure and good and peace love dove. That's not
going to make you give you Christ's consciousness at all.
The only time you're going to have get into Christ's
consciousness is in fourth dimension and maybe even higher, so
that you can de fuse polarization. Because there is no
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right wrong, there is no good evil, black white us,
then there is no need to control negatives because you
want to make it positive. And so that's what we
face every single full moon is looking outside of ourselves
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and evaluating our experience what we're seeing, whether it's from
an event or whether it's from an individual. I mean,
you know, people can say what they want to say
and that may be their belief. Well, I don't want
to change their belief. If they believe they want to
use Mars energy to go out and stab somebody, what
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am I supposed to do? Now? That's pretty that's my
That was my reason. Sorry, Yeah, how about it they
just go beat somebody upright.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Or how about to say something right?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
My point is we all use each one of these
energies from our own practical experiences, and you have to understand,
we have to all understand that we don't know what
kind of feedback you need for your greater good. And
this is why we all need individuality and sovereignty. We
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all have our own beliefs, and we have those beliefs
that are been put in place by a series of
other lifetimes, maybe by a series of experiences in this lifetimes.
So it's not my job to control or to fix.
My only job is to point out how you're perceiving
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it and another way of perceiving it. And if that
makes sense, great, and if it don't make sense, well
you ain't ready to hear it. That's all, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's so interesting as you're saying all this, what is
happening on a big scale is also what's happening typically
on the smaller scale, like the individual scale. And I think,
you know, our culture, we've talked about this a ton.
It's gotten so divisive and so polarizing. So this is
actually really exciting to me to hear that. This is
kind of the energy that's coming in because it's like, God,
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about damn time, you know, like help us out, because
we're so extreme in our thinking and it's like you
have to make that person right or wrong and vice versa.
But I think on a smaller scale too, like that's
been a part of my personal journey as well. In
people want to call it healing or evolving or whatever
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it is. It's like we look at these certain behaviors
as like bad, or these certain qualities as bad. And
the older I've gotten and the more I've grown, the
more I'm understanding that, Like, truly loving myself is accepting
all parts. It's accepting the good part or the parts
that I deem good, and it's also accepting the parts
that I deem bad, and like that is true self
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love is to kind of stop labeling them. They just are.
They're these parts and I'm working with them constantly. There's
certain things that make me feel good. Then there's certain
things that make me feel bad, and like there's just
it just was kind of this thing of like I
don't have to judge it so harshly. Does that make sense?
Like the connection I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Making, Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And you see a
higher conscious way of looking at that would say, Okay,
this makes me feel bad, so this is my opportunity
to see why I'm feeling bad, why I'm judging it,
what is it bringing up into me, and then utualize it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, that was where I was trying to get with that,
and I didn't quite finish that thought. So that was good.
I needed that little amendment. But yes, it's like because
I think a lot of times what we do instead
is go, that's bad. We label it, and then we
shove it into the dark instead of looking at it
or working with it, or jesting it, or even figuring
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out where it's coming from, you know. And I think
that can work right now on an individual scale, but
then on the big scale too, getting more curious and
opening up the conversation, like you said, versus just being like, well,
your perception is wrong, you know, like why don't we
talk about it?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well? Yeah, I mean if you can have a conversation,
I mean, you know, a good back and forth is
always good, and it gives you a pause for reflection,
and that's all you're doing, just reflect on one another
person was saying, doesn't mean you have to go along
with it. It just means that you have to believe
in trust in yourself to come to your own understanding right,
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and they can believe what they want and it doesn't
make them wrong and it doesn't make you right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, it's all based on personal experiences, like you mentioned,
like we've all had completely different life experiences and also
I think a lot of us have gone through things
or act certain ways or whatever. We don't want to
accept how similar and how connected we all are either.
So it's this really interesting like back and forth. I
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feel like we're doing with judgment right now. So this
will be very interesting this coming month with all of
our six months, I guess, with all of this energy
coming in.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, and then think about what the new Moon and
Viurgo set out on the twenty third of last month. Well,
the significance of that new moon was being true to
oneself and viewpoint, seeing self as you are and learning
about your best and worst traits from reactions of others,
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friends and enemies. That's exactly what urgo is. I don't
want just feedback. I mean, you know, if you're creating
whatever is in front of you at any moment in time,
So if you get something feedback from some or maybe
just a little dig or a little joke, and all
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of a sudden it resonates with you, well then that
means as you go on along, you're going back and
relooking at that and hashing that out. So that's a positive.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah. I had that experience this week. I was in
New York and my boyfriend said something to me that
I got so upset about like I took so personally
and I know your Marv's already laughing, and I was.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just like, there's a shock.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, I mean it just it hurt my feelings, I know,
And I was like, wait, I know he didn't mean
that that way, So why did it bother me so much?
And the more I asked those questions, the more I
got to it was something that had happened in a
past relationship, and in that past relationship it was a
hurtful behavior, but that wasn't how this relationship was at all,
bringing it into the picture. But it was important for
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me to look back because I think so often I
feel like right now I'm in a good place relationship wise,
and so it's almost like I forget what happened in
the past, and then that stuff can sneak up on
you though, And it's like, it's still very helpful sometimes
for me to understand where I came from to then
be able to stay in this positive place, because.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, it was. Actually it is that we had a
great conversation about it too, which you know, brought us
closer actually because I opened up about something that had
impacted me, and that was it was a beautiful situation.
But had I just like gotten pissed or not looked
at that or reflected, it would have never served that purpose.
So I guess the energy's already working in my life.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, I mean, you know, but I think that that's
exactly exactly a perfect example of what we're trying to say.
You didn't blame him, you didn't judge him. It hurt
your feelings, and then you come to find out, well,
why did that hurt my feelings? You valuate it, and
you come to find out he didn't mean it at
all like you took it. But this is how we're
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always always going back with perception perspectives of this life
and of zillion other lifetimes, and it's an error. So
you came up with the feeling, but now you can
neutralize that emotion and he can never say that again,
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that would affect you that away ever again it's gone
because it's now sublimated. You took it to a higher
level of consciousness. I just came across a quote today.
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In order for you to create a new light, in
order to change your perception of the world, you would
have to change the information that you receive. That you
can Joe defends.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
On Yeah, Despenza, but how can you change the information
you've received in the past.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You can't because did you get it from your ego
that's trying to protect you, or you getting it from
your higher mind that aligns with universal law, that aligns
with universal truths. And that's exactly what we've got to
do to get rid of the polarization in this whole society.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
That makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We don't have to understand Donald Trump. We have to
understand why he appealed to so many people. That's all
you need to understand. And all of those people are
not necessarily wrong, So we have to understand that that's
in us. The universe is in us, society is in US.
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So we can't judge why those people liked him. We
have to understand why those people liked him.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
He's a good example, maybe because he's such a polarizing person.
But you know, in certain situations, like I can't understand
why people voted for who they voted for all the time,
and that's because of my life experiences and the things
that are valuable to me for my survival, right, like
the most important factors. And when I've been in discussion
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with people who vote differently than me, the things that
matter to them the most about survival that are like
the highest on their list are in different order than mine.
And so it's like, of course we vote differently, like
we literally have had completely different Maybe they don't look
completely different from the outside, but a lot of times
our life experiences have been different. And then when you
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ask us what's the most important driving factor right now,
it's also different. And so we keep hating on these people,
but it's like we're not considering the whole picture, like
you're saying, we're not considering all of the conversation that
needs to be had get to a better place of understanding,
because then maybe we could find something that was more
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of a middle ground or compromise that worked for more people.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know, in an esoteric way, we're all battling the
Orion factor. What's that, Well, that is the galactic species
from the planet or Oriyan, And what they battled was
a strong individualism versus a strong socialism. Okay, and it
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became a private war. It's the same thing that happened
in Atlantis. So we're still modeling that same framework of society.
And I keep telling people I'm not against Republicans because
Republicans want a strong business community and that's understandable, sure,
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and Democrats want a strong populace, a strong individuals through
a social connection. Now they have to be balanced. It's
never one or the other. And so I think that
this is what we're going through for the next six months,
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is balancing that talking to each other instead of you know,
hollering and screaming and fighting that negativity. I mean, you've
got to neutralize it to get the higher consciousness. So
why not neutralize it now? And so the energy that's
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working on this particular New Moon is Uranus squares the
new Moon. Well, it's breaking free of rigid routines and
the practice because Uranus is the future, practicing using intuition,
innovation and flexibility and letting go of a rigid way
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of living. It's no longer Saturn's voice of putting down
the foundation and keeping it there just so we can
stay secure. Right, So uronics is always break up, break out,
break away, and break free from the rigidity of a
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reality so that we can grow and expand and experience
new possibilities. And so this whole New Moon is about that.
And this is what made me think of that Rayan
equation because it became a real war. I mean, it
was centuries that they fought and they had to come
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to the equilibrium and balance. And so this is where
we need to do the same thing. And so the
best way to break up a routine is just look
at all your habits and routines that you do without
thinking about them, and think about them and just take
one or two a day and do it differently, and
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that will get you into a different mindset. It'll recalibrate
you if you do this for a period of time,
and do you realize that you can become more flexible
and adaptable to a possibility outcome.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I'm laughing because this is why astrology is so fascinating
to me, is I don't know what's happening. There will
be certain things that just start happening in my life.
Like recently, I started listening to this meditation and it's
affirmations that I do in the morning, and it's about
breaking bad habits and it was something I wanted to
do because I've been feeling like I've been in this
little bit of a rut with some things, and I
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was like, I just want to try to like start
dropping these Well, one of the things that says within
that meditation, first, I think it's funny that I like
picked that meditation going into this energy. But secondly, one
of the things that it says is the more you
focus on the bad habit, the bigger it gets. But
instead start focusing on the new behavior you want to
replace it with and just put more energy there instead
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of going stop this thing, don't do this, you know,
like really like the negative effect. I think that we
all can tend to do of like oh god, why
why am I doing that again? Or we really put
so much energy into that piece of it, and that's
not the way to quit a habit. They said, it's
more about Okay, well, if I'm feeling like I'm slow
in my mornings, that's my bad habit or whatever, Like
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I have a slow morning, We'll get up and start
the day with these new Chinese medicine exercises I've been doing,
or like go on a walk, like get myself moving
and put energy into that part, like get excited about
that versus going good you're still so slow, you know, Yes,
So anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And that's exactly. I mean, that's perfect, that's exactly what
we're trying to convey. And because that's how you get
out of that rut and routines. And of course that
brings us into the full moon in Pisces, which is
an eclipse. Okay, And what's the first thing that I wrote,
awareness of humanities, deeper problems. We all have to look
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at this for six months, we're all going to be
in a full phase mode, full phase and full moon.
A full moon happens every month, and that gives us objectivity.
That's what a full moon is, right, So it's objectivity
to see things in a different way, to perceive things
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in a different way. And the ones that challenge us,
we're trying to raise the level of consciousness, so we
recognize it. And uryonics is sudden, unexpected, so it's sudden
flashes of brilliance. So that's the way I learned to
start following my intuition is if I had a sudden thought, yeah,
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just spring out of nowhere, I gave it one hund attention.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well that is I mean, that's exactly what I was
just saying, Like, that's what ess was happening, And it's
then you're telling me kind of what energy is coming in.
I'm like, oh, well, no, wonder this has been what's
been put on me to work on or whatever right now.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And then I followed that up with seeing the primitive
side underside of people in society. So everybody's just struggling
to have the best life they can sure, and so
we're fighting to align human law with laws of nature.
That's all you when people ask me, well, how do
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you know what universal law? As I said, it's nature.
Nature is universal law. And then the energy pattern from
this full moon is Pluto. Now get ready sesky squares
the sun, which means, in other words, there's a tension,
okay with this full moon. And the tension is the
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challenge to move beyond fear of disruption, to balance personal
order with collective transformation. We are most certainly moving into
social transformation. Now you can say it's going to be horrible,
it's going to be bad, it's going to be this,
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it's going to be that. But whatever it is, one
thing for certain, it is going to be transformation. And
what I've always said is take it to the highest
denomination in your consciousness. Become to the highest level of consciousness,
which leads me to another quote that I read this morning.
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The appreciation of beauty is one of the few instances
in which the ego allows transcendence experience to occur without interference.
Your ability to perceive and appreciate beauty is the thread
that keeps you connected to God.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I believe that now.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Is that a beautiful way of looking at things.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I love the statement of your appreciation of beauty. Is
your your connect your thread? How did he say it?
Your thread?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Your connection to God? Yeah, that's the thread that keeps
you connection.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Keeps you connected. I truly believe that because you mentioned,
you know, like we maybe will freak out if it
doesn't go perfectly in the next couple months or a
little bit or whatever. And I think I've started to
look at that a little bit differently, And not that
I ever really want to invite hard times. I don't
think any of us do us humans, You know, things
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are going to happen regardless, like you've always sid but
like whatever happens may not look pretty to us initially,
but if we can stop get curious and sit with
it or work with it or whatever it is that
we're always talking about on this podcast. Oftentimes there is
beauty on the other side that we would not have
been able to get through without that hard time. So
even if some of this looks a little messy, which
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I'm sure it will, because it's not like it comes
in and it's just like, oh, here we go, let's
just quote unquote change on something really easy. We don't
change unless there's hardship, like that's just how we work
so as humans. So I mean, it'll be interesting, but
I think that that quote is such a beautiful way
to sum this up of kind of what we could
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do if we start really paying attention to the energy
and working with it versus demonizing it and staying scared.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And this brings it into another concept because that Pluto
sun and its aspect. An aspect means how is it
connected to the other energy? Two energies connect. Okay, Well,
it's the testing the ability to tolerate and genuinely accept
people as they are. That's what we're all trying to
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do with this full moon for the next six months
and every full moon you're after.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, So that's what an eclipse does. It just keeps
the energy in this bigger package.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes, it just keeps the energy coming up, coming, up,
coming up, over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Except for the next six months, we're really in this
Virgo energy regardless of the other energies at play.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes, that just adds a little more piece to the puzzle, right,
I mean a puzzle is made of a thousand piece puzzle.
I'm giving you five pieces. Yeah. Now, the ability to
tolerate and genuinely accept people, that's what brought me into
that whole Orion concept because they ultimately had to balance
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each other out. Positive and negative had to be dissolved.
There is no positive and negative. It's all one. And
when you were saying what you just got done saying,
when we just live in the now, we're not worried
about what maybe might be, could be, should be. Just
stay present now. I can see what's going on with
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me now.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know what's going to be going on two
hours from now, but I do know what's going on now,
and I can make up my mind now. And so
when we move into this Virgo eclipse at the end
of the month, it's going to be powerful on the
twenty first, And so when we move into this Virgo
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eclipse at the end of the month, it's going to
be powerful on the twenty first, recognizing that worldly conditions
are unstable and the importance in finding and maintaining one's
footing in one's inner purpose. So we all need to always, always,
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always stay focused on our own inner purpose to move
to a higher level of understanding. And when things push
our buttons, when things cause an emotional energy in us,
then that gives us an opportunity to evaluate our own self.
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And that's a big deal. And so we've got to
keep things under control. And you do that by staying
in your own inner purpose. I mean, you know, what
did Jesus say, stick don't try to move the sticker
from your brother's eye until you get the board out
of your own right, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Saying yeah it is. And we've really gotten away from
all of that. It's become so easy just to hate
on people or cancel people or whatever because we have
access to some version of people's lives on social media
or their opinions or things we just didn't used to
have access to. So it's made it a lot easier
in some ways because you're sitting behind a keyboard too
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to really judge others and like deem something wrong, or
bad or whatever, if it's out of alignment with you.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Right, And the energy patterns we have for this eclipse
is we got a Saturn neptune that's opposing the new
moon eclipse, and that is tension between the personal identity
and the collective service and healing. It's so easy to
forget it. We're all interconnected. There is no separation from us.
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I know. Krista Murdy used to say transformation starts with one.
You change you, you change the world. And of course
what this is saying we discern truth from self delusion
and how you serve and heal others. So learning to
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trust your intuition is tested against Virgo's practicality and then
we have a Pluto Marsquare. This is passive aggressiveness, resentment
and suppressed rage until it explodes. So the challenge is
to face conflict consciously rather than to avoid it. And
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that's exactly what you said you did, is you started
processing it through and then you talked it out and
you came to clarity. And we need to continue to
do this instead of being in anger, frustration, fear and conflict.
It's an act in alignment with justice on a larger
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social and collective scale, and that's what we're all going
to be dealing with for the next six months.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's a big one. I mean not to like put fear,
but none of these really sound like they're going to
come in very gently to me. Like these you were like,
this is going to be a big month, but you
kind of said it in this way of, you know,
very positive. And I do think the reason is because
you're looking at it for the beauty on the other side,
(32:34):
and I'm seeing a little bit of like this may
be a little uncomfortable at first, And I always just
want to say that to people, is like that doesn't
have to be bad, Like we've got to get more
comfortable being uncomfortable, because that's kind of where the magic starts.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, because that's what we have to integrate into ourselves. Yeah,
where's our ugliness, where's our negativeness? You know?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But we'd like to pretend like we don't have that,
you know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And the thing about it is everything is not peace
love dove. I don't care how spiritual you are, how
much meditation you do, you are not perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Right, or you wouldn't be here right. Yeah, this is the.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
School of opportunity. That's exactly what this is, and Virgo
is going to help you break it down, analyze it,
and evaluate yourself. When you got one finger point outward,
you got three pointing back at you. So before you,
before you talk about somebody else, how about looking at yourself. Yeah,
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you created it. That's what I always try to do,
no matter what happens in my life, I say, I
created it. What am I looking at? What is it
teaching me? What is it showing me? And that's a
hermetic principle, and that's how we're all connected. So if
somebody needs to come up and punch me in the nose,
(34:02):
I gotta say, well, he punched me in the nose,
why did I attract that? And what is it teaching me?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That one's always a little tricky to sit with, but
it has proven to be true in my life. I
think it can be misinterpreted to me and like, oh,
if someone's treating me bad, I must have deserved it
or whatever, which that's not really what I believe the
meaning to be. And I used to feel like, well,
I don't believe that the universe is punishing like that
or anything like that. But I think it's like there
(34:30):
is always something to learn, and sometimes it can be
that you need to step in and have a backbone
or I read this quote today that was like, I
really wish I had told a bunch more people in
my life to fuck off. And I was like, yeah,
me too, Like maybe I don't know, Like there's you know,
there's parts for there's places for all of it. But
it I mean, we cannot sit here and say what
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each specific person's journey is with that because everyone truly
is so different and very specific to them. So it's
really that's why it's important to work with your own
intuition and your own journey and not place judgment on others,
which can be hard.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yes, it makes it a beautiful life. Yeah, challenges, the
opportunity to grow, challenges, the opportunity to weed out some
of the negativity that you've held in consciousness for five lifetimes.
It's like what you said, coming up from an old relationship, Well,
that's what comes up from lifetimes.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Sure, like that was the first relationship that came to mind,
was my last one, But that could have been a
ton of other things that could be playing into that.
But I do think it's interesting, just on that topic
a little bit like when we're talking about embracing the
beauty in this world, I think we are so often
quick to say all the things that we want without
really looking at the messy journey that it can take
(35:49):
to get there. Like I truly want an intimate relationship
with significant other and like that kind of connection romantically.
Did I think that this is how I would get it? No,
but it is like that was one of the most
beautiful moments of my week last week, was having that
connecting conversation, you know, and I didn't want it to
involve my past or something that like, ugh, didn't fit right,
(36:11):
feel right, But then it got there and it was great.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Look at it like this. You couldn't have this one
unless you had all the ones prior to it.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
We talk about that all the time, he and I,
because we've known each other for long enough to where
we could have been together at another part of our lives,
but it would have never worked. We both had to
have all the experiences that we did.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I mean, my wife says that all the time after
thirty years, and I said, shit, I would have never
been able to put up with human when I was twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, right, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And you wouldn't have liked me at all because I
was insecure, just a brat. So I mean, you know
it took it took me forty five years to meet her,
but I needed every single wonderful.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, that's how we are too. Anyway. That's just an
interesting way to look at Like all this stuff that
we've said, and you know, the working with certain energies,
it can feel daunting, But I think it's when you
switch to the narrative to being like, no, this is
actually like why I'm here, and I want my soul
wants to work on all these things to get the
beauty on the other side. Like that's all it's working towards.
(37:21):
It's not for punishment or harshness or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Well, your soul is the one lead you into the conflicts, Yeah,
because all all your soul's job is to do is
teach you. That's it. And if it has to send
you into a negative situation to teach you something, it will.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Oh, trust me, I know that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I mean here and say I've got it. Take five
hours every day? Why is all these bad things happening? Yeah?
I try so hard to be spiritual. I say, just
quit being spiritual and be human.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, just be human. I've also been there. Yeah, it's
just a journey. Well, Marvi, if anyone is going through
this month and they are like, Okay, this is way
too much energy. I need a little help, where can
they reach out to you to do it?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Mart astromarv dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, and as always, you guys, I will put that
in the description of this podcast. I'd highly recommend the
individual sessions. They are very helpful to me. And like
we're saying, everyone's on their own journey. So if you
want to know more specifics about yours, doing your astrology
reading with Marve is a really great way to start.
So again, that will be in the description of this podcast,
(38:37):
and Marve will be back next month to talk about
the October energy Libra A nice a little balance. Yeah,
I like Libra energy. All right, Oh we see that
sounds lovely, so it's something to look forward to, all right,
you guys, thanks so much for listening, and Marv, thanks
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so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Wonderful to be here.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
M hm.
I'm Marv.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello Kelly.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We were just talking about these astrology podcasts that we
do and you gave a really good definition. I'm not
going to give it perfectly, I'm sure, but you said
you are always wanting to bring people the energy of
what is coming in the next month. When we're doing
these podcasts, like with the new moon, with all of
the other transits that are happening, it's more about the
energy so that people can figure out how that is
(00:37):
playing into their lives and look at how they can
work with it well.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And the thing about it is is they're going to
work with the energy. They're going to recognize it in
whatever part of their life that it is occurring, right,
they'll recognize it.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We're in an interesting time now because astrology is so
universally discussed and I don't really in my lifetime at least,
there has not been another time period where that has
been the case. And so it's interesting because on one hand,
people know a lot about the terms of astrology. You know,
like this month we're talking about a Virgo new moon.
It's Virgo season. We just came out of Leo season,
(01:15):
and you and I will say things like that, but
your biggest fear is that people are kind of misinterpreting
what certain things are because they're not professional astrologers, and
there's so much just pop astrology out there kind of
ebbing and flowing into this like basic level astrology stuff,
and that's not fully the purpose of astrology. The purpose
(01:36):
is to work with the energy and to have awareness
about what's happening so that you can see what the
universe is mirroring to you. Or that's how I use
it at least. But that's why working with someone like
you is a little more helpful, because there's so many
different facets than just like, oh, there's a virgo new
moon happening. There's like all these other things happening too, right, right,
(01:57):
that's it. That is the shortest answer you. I thought
you were right. I was like, that's not a bar answer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
All. I thought that was a pretty good general breakdown. Okay,
exactly what we're trying to accomplish. I mean, you know,
when we're talking about Virgo, you know, the very first
thing that I put down in our outline is digestion
and the simulation of life experiences, and that's what astrology is. Now,
how do I help you digest and assimilate the energy
(02:32):
that's working for all of us, and it's working for
all of us on a personal level, it's working for
all of us on a social level. And really this
month is so huge because Virgo is the critical, analytical, evaluating,
judging sign of the zodiac. So we are for six
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months going to be under that auspicis of Virgo, of
critically analyzing and evaluating. Now you know, the problem with
Virgo is ay look outside of themselves to evaluate things.
The problem with Scorpio, which is on the other end
(03:18):
of the scales of Libra, is that they look internally
to evaluate everything. Well, guess what it needs to be flipped.
Virgo needs to look and evaluate themselves and Scorpio needs
to look outside of themselves to get correct feedback instead
(03:44):
of being so fearful about feeling ultrasensitive and being seen.
That's Scorpio's biggest conundrum being seen. I mean, if you
can imagine that at the deepest of all levels, see
Virgo and Scorpio are the only three constellations that are connected.
(04:06):
So virgos on one end of the scale, Scorpio is
on the other end of the scale of Libra. And
when you look up in the sky. It's balancing. It's
got to be balanced. And the way we balance virgo
is evaluate what we see and how we perceive it. Now,
(04:30):
when we perceive something, my way of seeing it is
you have to use universal law to understand if this
is the correct way of perceiving it, or if this
is coming out of my ego personality and I've got
some sort of fear or protection mechanism that's rejecting whatever
(04:52):
I'm seeing and feeling. So Virgo is to assimilate, just
simply a digest us to assimilate. And in the full moon,
which we've got a eclipse of the full moon, well
that's going to last six months, and the full moon
is about stop polarization. So this whole conversation today is
(05:17):
going to be about how we are so polarized amongst ourselves,
amongst society, and how are we going to get out
of the polarization. To become more evolved in consciousness, we
have to accept the dark and the light on equal terms.
(05:39):
You can't just say, oh, I'm just going to be
all pure and good and peace love dove. That's not
going to make you give you Christ's consciousness at all.
The only time you're going to have get into Christ's
consciousness is in fourth dimension and maybe even higher, so
that you can de fuse polarization. Because there is no
(06:03):
right wrong, there is no good evil, black white us,
then there is no need to control negatives because you
want to make it positive. And so that's what we
face every single full moon is looking outside of ourselves
(06:23):
and evaluating our experience what we're seeing, whether it's from
an event or whether it's from an individual. I mean,
you know, people can say what they want to say
and that may be their belief. Well, I don't want
to change their belief. If they believe they want to
use Mars energy to go out and stab somebody, what
(06:47):
am I supposed to do? Now? That's pretty that's my
That was my reason. Sorry, Yeah, how about it they
just go beat somebody upright.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Or how about to say something right?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
My point is we all use each one of these
energies from our own practical experiences, and you have to understand,
we have to all understand that we don't know what
kind of feedback you need for your greater good. And
this is why we all need individuality and sovereignty. We
(07:28):
all have our own beliefs, and we have those beliefs
that are been put in place by a series of
other lifetimes, maybe by a series of experiences in this lifetimes.
So it's not my job to control or to fix.
My only job is to point out how you're perceiving
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it and another way of perceiving it. And if that
makes sense, great, and if it don't make sense, well
you ain't ready to hear it. That's all, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's so interesting as you're saying all this, what is
happening on a big scale is also what's happening typically
on the smaller scale, like the individual scale. And I think,
you know, our culture, we've talked about this a ton.
It's gotten so divisive and so polarizing. So this is
actually really exciting to me to hear that. This is
kind of the energy that's coming in because it's like, God,
(08:21):
about damn time, you know, like help us out, because
we're so extreme in our thinking and it's like you
have to make that person right or wrong and vice versa.
But I think on a smaller scale too, like that's
been a part of my personal journey as well. In
people want to call it healing or evolving or whatever
(08:42):
it is. It's like we look at these certain behaviors
as like bad, or these certain qualities as bad. And
the older I've gotten and the more I've grown, the
more I'm understanding that, Like, truly loving myself is accepting
all parts. It's accepting the good part or the parts
that I deem good, and it's also accepting the parts
that I deem bad, and like that is true self
(09:03):
love is to kind of stop labeling them. They just are.
They're these parts and I'm working with them constantly. There's
certain things that make me feel good. Then there's certain
things that make me feel bad, and like there's just
it just was kind of this thing of like I
don't have to judge it so harshly. Does that make sense?
Like the connection I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Making, Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And you see a
higher conscious way of looking at that would say, Okay,
this makes me feel bad, so this is my opportunity
to see why I'm feeling bad, why I'm judging it,
what is it bringing up into me, and then utualize it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, that was where I was trying to get with that,
and I didn't quite finish that thought. So that was good.
I needed that little amendment. But yes, it's like because
I think a lot of times what we do instead
is go, that's bad. We label it, and then we
shove it into the dark instead of looking at it
or working with it, or jesting it, or even figuring
(10:03):
out where it's coming from, you know. And I think
that can work right now on an individual scale, but
then on the big scale too, getting more curious and
opening up the conversation, like you said, versus just being like, well,
your perception is wrong, you know, like why don't we
talk about it?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well? Yeah, I mean if you can have a conversation,
I mean, you know, a good back and forth is
always good, and it gives you a pause for reflection,
and that's all you're doing, just reflect on one another
person was saying, doesn't mean you have to go along
with it. It just means that you have to believe
in trust in yourself to come to your own understanding right,
(10:43):
and they can believe what they want and it doesn't
make them wrong and it doesn't make you right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, it's all based on personal experiences, like you mentioned,
like we've all had completely different life experiences and also
I think a lot of us have gone through things
or act certain ways or whatever. We don't want to
accept how similar and how connected we all are either.
So it's this really interesting like back and forth. I
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feel like we're doing with judgment right now. So this
will be very interesting this coming month with all of
our six months, I guess, with all of this energy
coming in.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, and then think about what the new Moon and
Viurgo set out on the twenty third of last month. Well,
the significance of that new moon was being true to
oneself and viewpoint, seeing self as you are and learning
about your best and worst traits from reactions of others,
(11:44):
friends and enemies. That's exactly what urgo is. I don't
want just feedback. I mean, you know, if you're creating
whatever is in front of you at any moment in time,
So if you get something feedback from some or maybe
just a little dig or a little joke, and all
(12:04):
of a sudden it resonates with you, well then that
means as you go on along, you're going back and
relooking at that and hashing that out. So that's a positive.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah. I had that experience this week. I was in
New York and my boyfriend said something to me that
I got so upset about like I took so personally
and I know your Marv's already laughing, and I was.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just like, there's a shock.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, I mean it just it hurt my feelings, I know,
And I was like, wait, I know he didn't mean
that that way, So why did it bother me so much?
And the more I asked those questions, the more I
got to it was something that had happened in a
past relationship, and in that past relationship it was a
hurtful behavior, but that wasn't how this relationship was at all,
bringing it into the picture. But it was important for
(12:54):
me to look back because I think so often I
feel like right now I'm in a good place relationship wise,
and so it's almost like I forget what happened in
the past, and then that stuff can sneak up on
you though, And it's like, it's still very helpful sometimes
for me to understand where I came from to then
be able to stay in this positive place, because.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, it was. Actually it is that we had a
great conversation about it too, which you know, brought us
closer actually because I opened up about something that had
impacted me, and that was it was a beautiful situation.
But had I just like gotten pissed or not looked
at that or reflected, it would have never served that purpose.
So I guess the energy's already working in my life.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, I mean, you know, but I think that that's
exactly exactly a perfect example of what we're trying to say.
You didn't blame him, you didn't judge him. It hurt
your feelings, and then you come to find out, well,
why did that hurt my feelings? You valuate it, and
you come to find out he didn't mean it at
all like you took it. But this is how we're
(14:02):
always always going back with perception perspectives of this life
and of zillion other lifetimes, and it's an error. So
you came up with the feeling, but now you can
neutralize that emotion and he can never say that again,
(14:25):
that would affect you that away ever again it's gone
because it's now sublimated. You took it to a higher
level of consciousness. I just came across a quote today.
(14:46):
In order for you to create a new light, in
order to change your perception of the world, you would
have to change the information that you receive. That you
can Joe defends.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
On Yeah, Despenza, but how can you change the information
you've received in the past.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You can't because did you get it from your ego
that's trying to protect you, or you getting it from
your higher mind that aligns with universal law, that aligns
with universal truths. And that's exactly what we've got to
do to get rid of the polarization in this whole society.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
That makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We don't have to understand Donald Trump. We have to
understand why he appealed to so many people. That's all
you need to understand. And all of those people are
not necessarily wrong, So we have to understand that that's
in us. The universe is in us, society is in US.
(15:49):
So we can't judge why those people liked him. We
have to understand why those people liked him.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
He's a good example, maybe because he's such a polarizing person.
But you know, in certain situations, like I can't understand
why people voted for who they voted for all the time,
and that's because of my life experiences and the things
that are valuable to me for my survival, right, like
the most important factors. And when I've been in discussion
(16:22):
with people who vote differently than me, the things that
matter to them the most about survival that are like
the highest on their list are in different order than mine.
And so it's like, of course we vote differently, like
we literally have had completely different Maybe they don't look
completely different from the outside, but a lot of times
our life experiences have been different. And then when you
(16:44):
ask us what's the most important driving factor right now,
it's also different. And so we keep hating on these people,
but it's like we're not considering the whole picture, like
you're saying, we're not considering all of the conversation that
needs to be had get to a better place of understanding,
because then maybe we could find something that was more
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of a middle ground or compromise that worked for more people.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know, in an esoteric way, we're all battling the
Orion factor. What's that, Well, that is the galactic species
from the planet or Oriyan, And what they battled was
a strong individualism versus a strong socialism. Okay, and it
(17:33):
became a private war. It's the same thing that happened
in Atlantis. So we're still modeling that same framework of society.
And I keep telling people I'm not against Republicans because
Republicans want a strong business community and that's understandable, sure,
(17:58):
and Democrats want a strong populace, a strong individuals through
a social connection. Now they have to be balanced. It's
never one or the other. And so I think that
this is what we're going through for the next six months,
(18:19):
is balancing that talking to each other instead of you know,
hollering and screaming and fighting that negativity. I mean, you've
got to neutralize it to get the higher consciousness. So
why not neutralize it now? And so the energy that's
(18:39):
working on this particular New Moon is Uranus squares the
new Moon. Well, it's breaking free of rigid routines and
the practice because Uranus is the future, practicing using intuition,
innovation and flexibility and letting go of a rigid way
(19:03):
of living. It's no longer Saturn's voice of putting down
the foundation and keeping it there just so we can
stay secure. Right, So uronics is always break up, break out,
break away, and break free from the rigidity of a
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reality so that we can grow and expand and experience
new possibilities. And so this whole New Moon is about that.
And this is what made me think of that Rayan
equation because it became a real war. I mean, it
was centuries that they fought and they had to come
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to the equilibrium and balance. And so this is where
we need to do the same thing. And so the
best way to break up a routine is just look
at all your habits and routines that you do without
thinking about them, and think about them and just take
one or two a day and do it differently, and
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that will get you into a different mindset. It'll recalibrate
you if you do this for a period of time,
and do you realize that you can become more flexible
and adaptable to a possibility outcome.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I'm laughing because this is why astrology is so fascinating
to me, is I don't know what's happening. There will
be certain things that just start happening in my life.
Like recently, I started listening to this meditation and it's
affirmations that I do in the morning, and it's about
breaking bad habits and it was something I wanted to
do because I've been feeling like I've been in this
little bit of a rut with some things, and I
(20:54):
was like, I just want to try to like start
dropping these Well, one of the things that says within
that meditation, first, I think it's funny that I like
picked that meditation going into this energy. But secondly, one
of the things that it says is the more you
focus on the bad habit, the bigger it gets. But
instead start focusing on the new behavior you want to
replace it with and just put more energy there instead
(21:16):
of going stop this thing, don't do this, you know,
like really like the negative effect. I think that we
all can tend to do of like oh god, why
why am I doing that again? Or we really put
so much energy into that piece of it, and that's
not the way to quit a habit. They said, it's
more about Okay, well, if I'm feeling like I'm slow
in my mornings, that's my bad habit or whatever, Like
(21:37):
I have a slow morning, We'll get up and start
the day with these new Chinese medicine exercises I've been doing,
or like go on a walk, like get myself moving
and put energy into that part, like get excited about
that versus going good you're still so slow, you know, Yes,
So anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And that's exactly. I mean, that's perfect, that's exactly what
we're trying to convey. And because that's how you get
out of that rut and routines. And of course that
brings us into the full moon in Pisces, which is
an eclipse. Okay, And what's the first thing that I wrote,
awareness of humanities, deeper problems. We all have to look
(22:21):
at this for six months, we're all going to be
in a full phase mode, full phase and full moon.
A full moon happens every month, and that gives us objectivity.
That's what a full moon is, right, So it's objectivity
to see things in a different way, to perceive things
(22:43):
in a different way. And the ones that challenge us,
we're trying to raise the level of consciousness, so we
recognize it. And uryonics is sudden, unexpected, so it's sudden
flashes of brilliance. So that's the way I learned to
start following my intuition is if I had a sudden thought, yeah,
(23:06):
just spring out of nowhere, I gave it one hund attention.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well that is I mean, that's exactly what I was
just saying, Like, that's what ess was happening, And it's
then you're telling me kind of what energy is coming in.
I'm like, oh, well, no, wonder this has been what's
been put on me to work on or whatever right now.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And then I followed that up with seeing the primitive
side underside of people in society. So everybody's just struggling
to have the best life they can sure, and so
we're fighting to align human law with laws of nature.
That's all you when people ask me, well, how do
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you know what universal law? As I said, it's nature.
Nature is universal law. And then the energy pattern from
this full moon is Pluto. Now get ready sesky squares
the sun, which means, in other words, there's a tension,
okay with this full moon. And the tension is the
(24:12):
challenge to move beyond fear of disruption, to balance personal
order with collective transformation. We are most certainly moving into
social transformation. Now you can say it's going to be horrible,
it's going to be bad, it's going to be this,
(24:32):
it's going to be that. But whatever it is, one
thing for certain, it is going to be transformation. And
what I've always said is take it to the highest
denomination in your consciousness. Become to the highest level of consciousness,
which leads me to another quote that I read this morning.
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The appreciation of beauty is one of the few instances
in which the ego allows transcendence experience to occur without interference.
Your ability to perceive and appreciate beauty is the thread
that keeps you connected to God.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I believe that now.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Is that a beautiful way of looking at things.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I love the statement of your appreciation of beauty. Is
your your connect your thread? How did he say it?
Your thread?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Your connection to God? Yeah, that's the thread that keeps
you connection.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Keeps you connected. I truly believe that because you mentioned,
you know, like we maybe will freak out if it
doesn't go perfectly in the next couple months or a
little bit or whatever. And I think I've started to
look at that a little bit differently, And not that
I ever really want to invite hard times. I don't
think any of us do us humans, You know, things
(25:58):
are going to happen regardless, like you've always sid but
like whatever happens may not look pretty to us initially,
but if we can stop get curious and sit with
it or work with it or whatever it is that
we're always talking about on this podcast. Oftentimes there is
beauty on the other side that we would not have
been able to get through without that hard time. So
even if some of this looks a little messy, which
(26:20):
I'm sure it will, because it's not like it comes
in and it's just like, oh, here we go, let's
just quote unquote change on something really easy. We don't
change unless there's hardship, like that's just how we work
so as humans. So I mean, it'll be interesting, but
I think that that quote is such a beautiful way
to sum this up of kind of what we could
(26:41):
do if we start really paying attention to the energy
and working with it versus demonizing it and staying scared.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And this brings it into another concept because that Pluto
sun and its aspect. An aspect means how is it
connected to the other energy? Two energies connect. Okay, Well,
it's the testing the ability to tolerate and genuinely accept
people as they are. That's what we're all trying to
(27:14):
do with this full moon for the next six months
and every full moon you're after.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, So that's what an eclipse does. It just keeps
the energy in this bigger package.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes, it just keeps the energy coming up, coming, up,
coming up, over and over and over.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Except for the next six months, we're really in this
Virgo energy regardless of the other energies at play.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes, that just adds a little more piece to the puzzle, right,
I mean a puzzle is made of a thousand piece puzzle.
I'm giving you five pieces. Yeah. Now, the ability to
tolerate and genuinely accept people, that's what brought me into
that whole Orion concept because they ultimately had to balance
(28:01):
each other out. Positive and negative had to be dissolved.
There is no positive and negative. It's all one. And
when you were saying what you just got done saying,
when we just live in the now, we're not worried
about what maybe might be, could be, should be. Just
stay present now. I can see what's going on with
(28:24):
me now.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know what's going to be going on two
hours from now, but I do know what's going on now,
and I can make up my mind now. And so
when we move into this Virgo eclipse at the end
of the month, it's going to be powerful on the
twenty first, And so when we move into this Virgo
(28:55):
eclipse at the end of the month, it's going to
be powerful on the twenty first, recognizing that worldly conditions
are unstable and the importance in finding and maintaining one's
footing in one's inner purpose. So we all need to always, always,
(29:17):
always stay focused on our own inner purpose to move
to a higher level of understanding. And when things push
our buttons, when things cause an emotional energy in us,
then that gives us an opportunity to evaluate our own self.
(29:40):
And that's a big deal. And so we've got to
keep things under control. And you do that by staying
in your own inner purpose. I mean, you know, what
did Jesus say, stick don't try to move the sticker
from your brother's eye until you get the board out
of your own right, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Saying yeah it is. And we've really gotten away from
all of that. It's become so easy just to hate
on people or cancel people or whatever because we have
access to some version of people's lives on social media
or their opinions or things we just didn't used to
have access to. So it's made it a lot easier
in some ways because you're sitting behind a keyboard too
(30:22):
to really judge others and like deem something wrong, or
bad or whatever, if it's out of alignment with you.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Right, And the energy patterns we have for this eclipse
is we got a Saturn neptune that's opposing the new
moon eclipse, and that is tension between the personal identity
and the collective service and healing. It's so easy to
forget it. We're all interconnected. There is no separation from us.
(30:58):
I know. Krista Murdy used to say transformation starts with one.
You change you, you change the world. And of course
what this is saying we discern truth from self delusion
and how you serve and heal others. So learning to
(31:18):
trust your intuition is tested against Virgo's practicality and then
we have a Pluto Marsquare. This is passive aggressiveness, resentment
and suppressed rage until it explodes. So the challenge is
to face conflict consciously rather than to avoid it. And
(31:43):
that's exactly what you said you did, is you started
processing it through and then you talked it out and
you came to clarity. And we need to continue to
do this instead of being in anger, frustration, fear and conflict.
It's an act in alignment with justice on a larger
(32:06):
social and collective scale, and that's what we're all going
to be dealing with for the next six months.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's a big one. I mean not to like put fear,
but none of these really sound like they're going to
come in very gently to me. Like these you were like,
this is going to be a big month, but you
kind of said it in this way of, you know,
very positive. And I do think the reason is because
you're looking at it for the beauty on the other side,
(32:34):
and I'm seeing a little bit of like this may
be a little uncomfortable at first, And I always just
want to say that to people, is like that doesn't
have to be bad, Like we've got to get more
comfortable being uncomfortable, because that's kind of where the magic starts.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, because that's what we have to integrate into ourselves. Yeah,
where's our ugliness, where's our negativeness? You know?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But we'd like to pretend like we don't have that,
you know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And the thing about it is everything is not peace
love dove. I don't care how spiritual you are, how
much meditation you do, you are not perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Right, or you wouldn't be here right. Yeah, this is the.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
School of opportunity. That's exactly what this is, and Virgo
is going to help you break it down, analyze it,
and evaluate yourself. When you got one finger point outward,
you got three pointing back at you. So before you,
before you talk about somebody else, how about looking at yourself. Yeah,
(33:42):
you created it. That's what I always try to do,
no matter what happens in my life, I say, I
created it. What am I looking at? What is it
teaching me? What is it showing me? And that's a
hermetic principle, and that's how we're all connected. So if
somebody needs to come up and punch me in the nose,
(34:02):
I gotta say, well, he punched me in the nose,
why did I attract that? And what is it teaching me?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That one's always a little tricky to sit with, but
it has proven to be true in my life. I
think it can be misinterpreted to me and like, oh,
if someone's treating me bad, I must have deserved it
or whatever, which that's not really what I believe the
meaning to be. And I used to feel like, well,
I don't believe that the universe is punishing like that
or anything like that. But I think it's like there
(34:30):
is always something to learn, and sometimes it can be
that you need to step in and have a backbone
or I read this quote today that was like, I
really wish I had told a bunch more people in
my life to fuck off. And I was like, yeah,
me too, Like maybe I don't know, Like there's you know,
there's parts for there's places for all of it. But
it I mean, we cannot sit here and say what
(34:51):
each specific person's journey is with that because everyone truly
is so different and very specific to them. So it's
really that's why it's important to work with your own
intuition and your own journey and not place judgment on others,
which can be hard.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yes, it makes it a beautiful life. Yeah, challenges, the
opportunity to grow, challenges, the opportunity to weed out some
of the negativity that you've held in consciousness for five lifetimes.
It's like what you said, coming up from an old relationship, Well,
that's what comes up from lifetimes.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Sure, like that was the first relationship that came to mind,
was my last one, But that could have been a
ton of other things that could be playing into that.
But I do think it's interesting, just on that topic
a little bit like when we're talking about embracing the
beauty in this world, I think we are so often
quick to say all the things that we want without
really looking at the messy journey that it can take
(35:49):
to get there. Like I truly want an intimate relationship
with significant other and like that kind of connection romantically.
Did I think that this is how I would get it? No,
but it is like that was one of the most
beautiful moments of my week last week, was having that
connecting conversation, you know, and I didn't want it to
involve my past or something that like, ugh, didn't fit right,
(36:11):
feel right, But then it got there and it was great.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Look at it like this. You couldn't have this one
unless you had all the ones prior to it.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
We talk about that all the time, he and I,
because we've known each other for long enough to where
we could have been together at another part of our lives,
but it would have never worked. We both had to
have all the experiences that we did.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I mean, my wife says that all the time after
thirty years, and I said, shit, I would have never
been able to put up with human when I was twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Well, right, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And you wouldn't have liked me at all because I
was insecure, just a brat. So I mean, you know
it took it took me forty five years to meet her,
but I needed every single wonderful.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, that's how we are too. Anyway. That's just an
interesting way to look at Like all this stuff that
we've said, and you know, the working with certain energies,
it can feel daunting, But I think it's when you
switch to the narrative to being like, no, this is
actually like why I'm here, and I want my soul
wants to work on all these things to get the
beauty on the other side. Like that's all it's working towards.
(37:21):
It's not for punishment or harshness or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Well, your soul is the one lead you into the conflicts, Yeah,
because all all your soul's job is to do is
teach you. That's it. And if it has to send
you into a negative situation to teach you something, it will.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Oh, trust me, I know that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I mean here and say I've got it. Take five
hours every day? Why is all these bad things happening? Yeah?
I try so hard to be spiritual. I say, just
quit being spiritual and be human.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, just be human. I've also been there. Yeah, it's
just a journey. Well, Marvi, if anyone is going through
this month and they are like, Okay, this is way
too much energy. I need a little help, where can
they reach out to you to do it?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Mart astromarv dot com.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, and as always, you guys, I will put that
in the description of this podcast. I'd highly recommend the
individual sessions. They are very helpful to me. And like
we're saying, everyone's on their own journey. So if you
want to know more specifics about yours, doing your astrology
reading with Marve is a really great way to start.
So again, that will be in the description of this podcast,
(38:37):
and Marve will be back next month to talk about
the October energy Libra A nice a little balance. Yeah,
I like Libra energy. All right, Oh we see that
sounds lovely, so it's something to look forward to, all right,
you guys, thanks so much for listening, and Marv, thanks
(38:58):
so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Wonderful to be here.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
M hm.
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