January 7, 2025 • 29 mins
Gary and Shannon start the fourth hour of the show with the latest on a brush fire in Pacific Palisades.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app with all the coverage of this
fire that has exploded this morning in the Pacific Palisades,
quickly taking off down the hills there as it makes
its way, particularly on the west side of Timescal Canyon there,
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into the neighborhoods we mentioned most recently. Because the winds
are coming down the mountain from the north and from
over the east, it pushed this thing to the west
into the borderline of the Summit area, which backs up
right there to Palisades Drive, which has said to be
overrun all four lanes with cars trying to get down
as fire crews try to get up.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Getting word that some people are starting to walk out
because of the evacuation problems that they're having with people
cars that are jamming the roads getting out of it.
A couple people that we have heard from have said
as much, and we're hearing radio traffic as well that
even dispatchers realize that there are problems getting people out
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of the areas that need to be gotten out of.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know what you do at that point.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, this is some more bad news for you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Reports now that the fire has spotted across Palisades Drive
and is on both sides of the road, which puts
it if you're looking at a map here on.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
The Getty Villa side right of Palisades Drive.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Now that is this in terms of the sheer number
of homes. That's probably the smaller pocket right right there
before it goes before you hit Topanga and then it
kind of gets wild landy before you make.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Your way over towards Big Rock and in the Malibu area.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But this does not mean that it's less dangerous, because
that just means it's spreading as it reaches out into
the into the flatlands there. We have been following all
of the coverage of it as well, and I mean
you could see there's there's a picture right there from
Channel five of the traffic as it exists there people
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getting out of pch and then fire trucks that are
stuck in that same traffic, and of course that dark
cloud of smoke that comes over them brings with it
sort of that I'm sure probably fear inducing panic.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So here's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It quickly went from ten acres and just balloon to
two hundred like that. They knew it would because of
the twenty to six excuse me, forty to sixty mile
per hour winds gus even more as we can imagine
and predict with fires like this wind driven down the
mountains with those mountain wave winds behind it, Several spot
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fires have erupted in multiple neighborhoods. This was an area
where strike crews were deployed. This was considered to be
one of the high intensity when it came to high
fire risk areas that they knew that anything that exploded
in this area would take off. Unfortunately, they just didn't
know when. And the speed of this thing means that
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people didn't have time to preemptively leave if they were
going to anyway, which is why you're seeing the gridlock
everywhere there.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But anyway, they have.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Got at least four or had had four firefighting aircraft
in the sky, including those two Super Scoopers. Now, the
Super Scoopers are unique and that they can fly in
winds of forty five miles per hour per hour. They
can scoop up water in headwinds of forty five miles
per hour, which is one of the reasons why they
are so key. The pilots which are also on loan,
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the equipment crews who know how to take care of
these babies, they can approach. They can approach their approach,
I should say, based on different wind speeds. They have
different protocols for different wind speeds on how to approach
the water pickups as well as the water drops. They
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are very skilled at that when it comes to the
technicality of that kind of maneuver. So they are able
to reach these fire locations quickly, repeatedly drop water on
flames in wind. So lucky that we have those. I
can't believe they were still on lease in January. Usually
fire season is over. They say it's year round, but
rarely do we have these things explode in January.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We are watching, like you said, a handful of air traffic,
a bunch of different spotter planes that have now come
in and are circling around this thing. The last number
that we had was two hundred plus acres. It is
going to be whatever the number is next is going
to be much much larger than that, based on the
speed with which this thing has been able to expand
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there has been video that we've.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Also seen of homes that are on fire. So this is.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
A situation now that is getting I mean exponentially more dangerous,
not just for the people who are trying to get out,
but for the fire crews. A couple of different TV
stations have reporters up in those neighborhoods and they are
watching law enforcement and firefighters going into homes, ushering people
out door to door, literally yelling for people to get
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out of the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
LA Fire Department, LA County Fire Department, the finest departments
you will find when it comes to firefighting in this country,
possibly the world. They are very good at this, and
they're describing this situation as dire. They're saying that this
is the ferocity of a blowtorch. Again, a dire situation.
They said this morning it was going to be life threatening.
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They said it was going to be destructive when it
came to this wind event, and they were not kidding.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
There are homes that are on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
The entire Pacific Palisades area has been ordered evacuated, and
that means that everybody is trying to get out of
there at the same time.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, Palisades Drive is gridlocked. They're using all four lanes
told to are not told to to get the hell
down while fire crews are trying to use that only
and only.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Major artery to get up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Right now, radio traffic indicates that the traffic there on
Palisades Drive is gridlocked. Cars are being abandoned by people,
which is making things harder for fire engines as you
can imagine, to get up that road. So firefighters right
now are requesting that people at the top of Palisades
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Drive shelter in place at this time, don't try to
come down.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, I mean, the one thing they would have is
that the fire doesn't appear to be moving that direction.
I mean it has jumped over as you get farther south,
farther closer to the water, I should say, and it
is on the side of Palisades Drive that would be
the Getty Villa area, and as you make your way
over towards Topega Canyon Boulevard or Topenga Canyon Highway twenty
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seven there. But that's not a that doesn't make anybody
feel calm. I wouldn't expect two hundred plus acres was
the last time we saw a number associated with this,
But we know it's going to be bigger than that
once they get in more information. There's a couple pictures
of all of the different agencies that have reacted to this.
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I've seen LA County and LA City firefighting aircraft that
are in the air. They've got a couple of different
tankers with their lead spotter planes that are coming through,
just doing their circles all around. So you could imagine
it is a very busy time in those skies above
this fire trying to do what they can. That's at
least four helicopters that I see now, and then a
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couple of other tankers that continued to circle through.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Again. The winds are volatile, so there are a number
of aircraft that will not fare well in situations like this.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
At this point, there is going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
A lull, we're told by meteorologists in the afternoon, at
some point where maybe you can get on top of
this thing from the sky a little bit more. Take
advantage of that break, because the strong winds and the
strong wind gusts will make a return this evening. Now,
if you're on PCH hoping to get by this thing
before it hits PCH, you're so well traffic on PCH
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toward the Palisades is a mess. You're not going anywhere,
so your plans need to be aborted.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
At this point. I'm looking at live pictures and there's
just no.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Way that you're going to get in that direction. I
don't know if these are people trying to get to
their homes to get things out, or people trying to
get through this area on pch because it is shut
down as well.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's a Pega Canyon southbound.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah to Panga A. Mulholland is where pH is close.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We talked with Quentin Fleming from the Pacific Palisades Community
Council a little bit earlier and we discussed that one
way in, one way out, especially if you're up at
the top of the hill there in the Palisades, that
that Palisades Drive was really the only access to get
in and out of that place. Like you said, that's
one of the reasons they have suggested it if you
are up at the top of that hill, that you
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shelter in place, because they need to get the fire
equipment in there to help fight that fire.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Much farther, I.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Shouldn't say much, but a couple of miles to the
west of that is where we saw that fire last
month that burned up towards Malibu, down towards Malibu, I
should say, and it is echoing a lot of what
we saw then today, but today's exploded in size. We
were on edge in that Malibu fire. We were waiting
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for it to grow and grow exponentially, but it did not.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This one is.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
This one is taking advantage of the incredible wind speeds
that we saw, like you said, up to sixty mile
an hour gusts, if not more than that, specifically in
this area and again the entire area of Pacific Palisades.
They want you out of there so that they can
go in and fight this fire and try to protect
your homes.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Unfortunately, pictures of homes on fire. As you mentioned, We
also talked about how the President's trip to the Inland
Empire to declare some national monuments has been canceled. One
of the reasons is that it would have created problems
in airspace. Him coming on Air Force one to the
Inland Empire would definitely shut down and some airspace over
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much needed airspace, as you can imagine around southern California
with this beast that is just eating up the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now, one of the things that we mentioned this morning
when we were talking about what was going to happen
for the rest of the day and for the next
couple of days. As a matter of fact, because of
the red flag fire danger, CalFire did deploy a few
dozen fire engines and six hand crews from northern California
to come down here to Southern California, La Orange, Riverside,
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San Bernardino, San Diego, Samuis Obispo, and Ventura County. So
the local units were going to be We're staffing extra engines,
extra hand crews, bulldozers, water tenders were all ready at
the ready. But this is not This is beyond what
we have seen in terms of fire behavior in many
instances before. So that's one of the reasons why we've
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seen such an incredible response. And then there's one of
the images that we see so many times in southern
California where the palm tree is catching on fire.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And those palm trees, once they get to the fronds,
those things take off and they travel. I mean, you
don't need that palm tree to spread this thing in
terms of spotfires because of the wind, it'll carry those
those flames alone. But it doesn't make matters any better.
And look at that. Look at that live area of
just gridlock. I mean it's like trying to get out
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of a stadium after a concert or a sports event.
You're not moving because there are just so many people
and nowhere to go. And you wonder if they've got
the traffic lights configured correctly, you know, or people are
even paying attention to traffic lights at this point to
get out of there. But look at the chaos and
people just to well just be kind of one another.
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You've got civilians out there directing traffic at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It looks like that guy's car is stalled, and that's
probably what's causing the problem right now.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
No, I mean that's moving.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah. No, these are people that have gotten out of
their cars to try and get people to go different
directions or to actually just plate traffic monitor there to
try and get these cars through. Oh, that guy's car
is stalled. Yeah wow, look at that. Look at this,
This guy's car is stalled. What of time to have
your car stall?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Four people get out of their cars to push them down.
That's nice to see, yeah, and hopefully free up at
least some of the problems.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So again it looks like traffic is gridlocked in different
areas trying to get out of Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And it looks like just like every other fire where
there's no visibility, it's just all gray, just like it
looks like.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
A war zone. It is like a bunch of bombs
have dropped.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And again there are homes that have burned. We haven't
seen what sort of plans LA City Fire or County Fire,
whoever's going to take the charge of the lead on
this would be giving updates on any of it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So we'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But that just goes to show you how feverish this is,
how hot it got, how quickly, how wide spread it is.
There's just no time to give an update. I don't
want them to waste time giving us an update, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, yeah, I mean that that along with the lack
of specific evacuation orders early on everybody and now it's
just everybody in the Palisades leave.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Every one in the Palisades area.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Leave is the evacuation order they're not just getting they're
not getting granular about which neighborhoods.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
There's no time to get granular.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I mean, just miles of smoke that have now been
blown out across the ocean and everywhere along the west side.
You can see images of this fire. You can see
it from the valley over the hills.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
There is just it is. It is big again.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There is supposed to be a lull in the winds
coming up this afternoon before they pick up again tonight.
But the red flag warning is in effect for this
area until Thursday at six pm. Still got a lot
of hours to go with this wind event.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
All right, we'll continue to keep an eye on this again.
Two hundred plus acre fire in a Pacific Palace Sades,
very dangerous situation.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
All of the Palisades has been evacuated. We are seeing
some they're trying to now they're trying to at excellent point.
We've got eyes on Palisades Drive. All four lanes, two in,
two out, all four now have been devoted to outs
as according to the people who are trying to get out. Unfortunately,
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there are fire engines trying to get in, making matters
much worse. You pointed out a palm tree that was
on fire.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, right in the median there. It's too like you said,
two lanes up and two lanes down. On Palisades Drive
and in the media and through much of it there
are palm trees. It's California, and some of the palm
trees have started to catch fire from the earlier spot
fires that we saw the embers that were blowing in.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There was also a car that it was actually.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
A van, headed down Palisades Drive away from the fire
on the wrong side of the road that had caught fire.
But that thing burned for a good ten or fifteen
minutes before a fire truck came and they were able
to put it out just a couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But this is it's a situation.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't think anybody, well clearly nobody expected like this,
especially with people trying to get out of that hillcrest
area the top of the Palisades area, the summit, because
the only way to get out of there is through
Palisades Drive.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You can't go back the other way. You can't go
back up over the hill.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You have to come down Palisades Drive. And even with
two lanes up two lanes down, pretty sizable, I guess
access lanes on the side of that, it's just a mess.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So you can see cars that are just abandoned on
Palisades Drive. Cars that were driving down the wrong side
of the road to get out, desperate to get out.
People have just been taking off running. Now mentioned that
the fire did jump Pacific Palisades Drive, so it's on
both sides, on the Temescul side and it's on the
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side of the Getty Villa.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now listening to radio traffic that indicates the fire is
currently impacting the Getty Villa area, will be impacting Coastline
Drive area shortly, which is as you know, if you
know the area right in.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The thick of residential communities.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
As well, a couple of notes to pass on the
command center that you're going to see a lot of
don't go there. But if you are coming out of Palisades,
the area to the south is jammed. The area headed
towards Topega and then into Malibu, you're also going to
see a lot of traffic, but it's apparently not as
bad going that direction.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Also, the evacuation center.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
One evacuation center that's been set up has been set
up at the Westwood Recreation Center, which again you're going
to have to go through all of that traffic to
get out of the Palisades. To get into that area.
In terms of the wind that we saw drive this
thing for the last couple of hours and just grow
it exponentially, very quickly. Is expected to peak later tonight.
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That's not the good news. I mean, we've seen sustained
winds in thirty forty mile an hour, but we expect
winds to peak somewhere around ten o'clock tonight in the
Palisades area, peaking it around forty five miles per hour sustained,
which would put the gusts well up over sixty seventy
miles an hour possible.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Actor James Woods has posted some very graphic footage from
his driveway as he's preparing to get out.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You better hurry the hell up and get out. Several
homes around there on fire.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And again it doesn't make it any worse any better,
but these are as you can imagine multimillion dollar homes
up in flames. Again, a lot of the conversation, and
it's too soon to have it, will center around the
fact that Palisades Drive is the main and only.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Artery out of the affected area.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
The images down Palisades Drive with these cars listen, it's still, hey,
it's daylight. That's a good thing. The smoke isn't that
thick that they can't see ahead of them, but you.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Can't see daylight when you're down there in it. It's
just all gray and all smoke. And imagine the air
quality as well. But it's eerily reminiscent of the Skyway. Yeah,
when everybody was leaving that fire, Paradise up in northern Califoria.
Skyway is basically Palisades Drive.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It was the one way out of Paradise, and there
were so many people that got caught and were afraid
for their lives while they were trying to get out
of there.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I wonder what the conversation has been. And I
don't know why we haven't heard more about it, And
maybe it's just because these fires have become more explosive
in recent years, But it seems like a conversation that
we would have been abreast of in the news business
if this was a major conversation topic and the Pacific Palisades.
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Maybe it was locally, like we were talking to one
of the community council members about the fact of well,
worst case scenario, were screwed with this one major artery
in and out. And I think a lot of people
don't like to think about the worst screwed possibility, and
today we're screwed, which is why you see people just
making a run for it, you know, miles away from
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from Sunset Boulevard there, if you're coming down from Palisades,
just taking off and walking or running down down the road.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, And I think everybody, we all know some people
who who are in the Palisades. They don't have to
be celebrities, but just neighbors or friends or friends of
neighbors or whatever that do live in the Palisades. And
as far as we know, most everybody's getting out quickly
and getting out safely. But they've had to abandon cars,
like we've been saying, they've abandoned them, whether it's on
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Palisades Drive or other places on pH As they get
out of there, it is as life threatening as they expected.
I mean, this is this is kind of the worst
case scenario that they were saying, or the very bad
case scenario that was possible.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And it's coming to fruition.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And it's one of those situations where it's not that
people were dilly dallying.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So often when we cover these fires, there are people
that are interviewed to say, ma'am, I'm just gonna wait
it out. I'm just gonna see what goes on. This
was one of those fires there are. I'm pretty sure
eighty five to ninety percent of the people in the
area said oh, hell no, and just got the hell
out of there. The thing was moving so quickly, though,
that as soon as they had that thought and started
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getting in the car, everyone else had that thought. It
wasn't that people were just waiting and seeing how this
thing was going to play out.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
They wanted to get out of there, and they did.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's just that there's so few space on those roads
to make your way down the hill.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Again, the immediate threat to life. The evacuation order is
very general in terms of its location, but evacuation orders
are in effect, and they have listed the zones. It's
all of the palisades. It's the entire from the summit
all the way to down out of the water. They
want you out of there.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And from the summit there, right to the east of
that neighborhood is where this thing erupted. And it is
just a steady stream, a massive thick stream of white
and black smoke, and that black smoke of course, means
most likely homes burning, and then the fingers, the fingers
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that exist down towards near Santa Monica.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Of just the spot fires that are.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Crawling down the terrain there are also just terrifying to
see because again those embers doesn't take much to get
them flying and sparking new fires.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
All right, so this is going to be an all
day and probably well into the evening kind of a
story because as we mentioned, the wind gusts are expected
to peek later tonight and the red flag warnings for
this fire danger will continue through the next couple of days.
It could be until Friday that the red flag war
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are up in those areas. If you are making your
way out of Palisades, out of Pacific Palisades, there is
movement in traffic. Yes, it looks pretty grim in terms
of getting out of there, and we know plenty of
people have abandoned their cars and are trying to walk out,
but there is some movement. They finally have it looks
like a handle on some of the traffic control to
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try to get people out of there as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Palisades on fire right now pretty much worst case scenario
in terms of this wind event and how quickly it
hit this area, no time to respond, no time to
get out, which is why you've got people abandoning their
cars on the only major artery in and out of
the Palisades. There are four lanes, two lanes in each direction,
but everyone decided to make all four lanes one direction out.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Problem is fire engines are trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, this was We talked with Quentin Fleming from the
Community Council, the Pacific Palisades Community Council, and that question
came up. Is this something that's been talked about. I mean,
there are hundreds of homes higher up in the hill
and only one good way in and out, and it's
not like fire is new in this area. So the
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entire area has been placed under evacuation order. There are
I mean just scores and scores of images on social
media from really far away where people can see the
smoke cloud from this well down the coast, well down
the west side into the beach communities down there. The
traffic in and out of the Palisades, I shouldn't say
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in the traffic out of the Palisades is very, very thick.
There is an evacuation center that been set up at
the Westwood Recreation Center, but it's going to take some
patients among other things to get there. We do know
that there have been homes that at least have been damaged.
We don't know of any that are complete losses as
of this point, but it just seems the way that
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this thing was behaving early on, it's almost an inevitablity
that we're going to lose some homes in this area
and it is going to get worse potentially before it
gets better, if no other reason. Then the winds are
not expected to die. The winds have not peaked yet.
It will be several hours before they peak. In fact,
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the expectation is that it's sometime between eight and midnight
tonight when they will peak in that area.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thank god, we still have those super Scoopers on loan
from Quebec. They are able to fly in the winds.
They are making crucial air drops. They're able to pick
up water in headwinds of forty five miles per hour.
So those things were activated right quick and have been
attacking this thing now for a couple hours.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
The spot fires were.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
A concern that came true very quickly as well. So
you can see just fingers of active flames working down
the hills. Here, the fire did jump Palisades Drive from
the Tamescul side over to the Getty Villa side. In fact,
they do say that the fire is impacting the Gelly
Villa area, will be impacting the Coastline Drive area. Shortly
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pch non negotiable trying to make your way to the Palisades.
There's just no way to get in. If you're trying
to get into your home or what have you. There's
it's just not tenable at this situation, at this time.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
A couple of quick notes just about we've done this
for a long time and not had an experience where
there's so much that is happening at the beginning of
an event like this that they don't they being fire authorities,
don't give out information. They were slow in putting out
specifics about the evacuation parameters because they were just saying,
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if you're in that area, you need to get out.
It doesn't matter what zone you need to get out
of the Palisades. The other thing is our last number
is at two hundred acres. It's well over two hundred acres,
and you can tell that especially with these other spot
fires that have come up. But their priority is not
coming up with a number of how many acres. Their
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priority is absolutely protecting people's lives and then protecting properties
and getting people in and out of their safely.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's telling that they don't have acreage. It's telling that
we are hours away from any sort of containment number.
All of this is telling that this is their number
one priority is getting people out, structure protection. I'm trying
to create a ring around something that is moving like
this and this quickly and this erratically is near and possible,
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So hopefully they will get some work done from the
air on this thing before they are able to get
in there and do the painstaking work that will be
wildline containment line for this thing.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Wildfire containment line for a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's just literal boots on the ground hand crews that
are going in some of those areas. There are a
couple of dozen, it looks like, just based on flight radar,
twenty four aircraft in the area, which in and of
its self brings a whole series of potential problems. You've
got to be able to coordinate all of these different
firefighting aircraft you've got for the tankers. They are usually
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following a spotterer plane or a lead plane that will
go through and indicate where it is that they need
to have water or retardant dropped down. On top of that,
you've got all of the helicopters that are in the air.
Throw into all of that. Like we were saying earlier, this
mess of traffic getting out of Palisades. The last time,
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about fifteen twenty minutes ago we started seeing some of
the traffic really starting to move, but that was the
first time we had seen it in probably an hour
or so. It looks a lot like as you head
up the hill up Palisades Drive, you go past a
little shopping center that's got an Italian place, a little
restaurant in there, a sushi place, and a Starbucks. That
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hillside just above that, as you head up towards the summit,
there is on fire and there are crews that are
trying to get some sort of water on that. But
you could see it right above, right on that hill
behind that little shopping center, there's all kinds of open flame.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Hey takeaway from here is if you live in a
wild fire risk area and you know when you do
just note that with this wind event we've got, with
these mountain wave winds coming down, if you're in the
San Gabriel's, the valleys, wherever you are there, because the
winds in this event are coming from the north, are
coming from the east. These things are moving ferociously, So
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you're not going to have time to pack up the
car the way you normally would have when you are
given the evacuation order, because likely you're going to have
to evacuate before you get that order. So takeaway from
this is just be ready to go on a wind
event like this. I mean, if it means pack in
a bag, put it in the car now, why not?
Why not operate out of an abundance of caution. Again,
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the evacuation area is basically all of the palisades from
Topanga Canyon to the to the west, all the way
down to pch and all the way over towards towards Brentwood.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I mean, it's just all of the palisades.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We haven't seen much yet of any sort of update
where we're going to get a news conference out of
fire authorities and they can give us more information and
print some specifics probably about the people who might still
be up in that area. What you can do to
protect yourself, But we will keep an eye on this
and we'll bring it to you, of course, live when
it happens, whether it's our show. John's coming on in
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just a few minutes, and of course Deva and the
rest of the team, you're going to have everything throughout
the course of the day.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
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that a thing?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It's a tomorrow's soup. It is tomorrow's menuda.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
All right, we'll see youm mignona. Okay, stay drive everybody, blessings.
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fire that has exploded this morning in the Pacific Palisades,
quickly taking off down the hills there as it makes
its way, particularly on the west side of Timescal Canyon there,
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into the neighborhoods we mentioned most recently. Because the winds
are coming down the mountain from the north and from
over the east, it pushed this thing to the west
into the borderline of the Summit area, which backs up
right there to Palisades Drive, which has said to be
overrun all four lanes with cars trying to get down
as fire crews try to get up.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Getting word that some people are starting to walk out
because of the evacuation problems that they're having with people
cars that are jamming the roads getting out of it.
A couple people that we have heard from have said
as much, and we're hearing radio traffic as well that
even dispatchers realize that there are problems getting people out
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of the areas that need to be gotten out of.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know what you do at that point.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, this is some more bad news for you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Reports now that the fire has spotted across Palisades Drive
and is on both sides of the road, which puts
it if you're looking at a map here on.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
The Getty Villa side right of Palisades Drive.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Now that is this in terms of the sheer number
of homes. That's probably the smaller pocket right right there
before it goes before you hit Topanga and then it
kind of gets wild landy before you make.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Your way over towards Big Rock and in the Malibu area.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But this does not mean that it's less dangerous, because
that just means it's spreading as it reaches out into
the into the flatlands there. We have been following all
of the coverage of it as well, and I mean
you could see there's there's a picture right there from
Channel five of the traffic as it exists there people
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getting out of pch and then fire trucks that are
stuck in that same traffic, and of course that dark
cloud of smoke that comes over them brings with it
sort of that I'm sure probably fear inducing panic.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So here's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It quickly went from ten acres and just balloon to
two hundred like that. They knew it would because of
the twenty to six excuse me, forty to sixty mile
per hour winds gus even more as we can imagine
and predict with fires like this wind driven down the
mountains with those mountain wave winds behind it, Several spot
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fires have erupted in multiple neighborhoods. This was an area
where strike crews were deployed. This was considered to be
one of the high intensity when it came to high
fire risk areas that they knew that anything that exploded
in this area would take off. Unfortunately, they just didn't
know when. And the speed of this thing means that
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people didn't have time to preemptively leave if they were
going to anyway, which is why you're seeing the gridlock
everywhere there.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But anyway, they have.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Got at least four or had had four firefighting aircraft
in the sky, including those two Super Scoopers. Now, the
Super Scoopers are unique and that they can fly in
winds of forty five miles per hour per hour. They
can scoop up water in headwinds of forty five miles
per hour, which is one of the reasons why they
are so key. The pilots which are also on loan,
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the equipment crews who know how to take care of
these babies, they can approach. They can approach their approach,
I should say, based on different wind speeds. They have
different protocols for different wind speeds on how to approach
the water pickups as well as the water drops. They
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are very skilled at that when it comes to the
technicality of that kind of maneuver. So they are able
to reach these fire locations quickly, repeatedly drop water on
flames in wind. So lucky that we have those. I
can't believe they were still on lease in January. Usually
fire season is over. They say it's year round, but
rarely do we have these things explode in January.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We are watching, like you said, a handful of air traffic,
a bunch of different spotter planes that have now come
in and are circling around this thing. The last number
that we had was two hundred plus acres. It is
going to be whatever the number is next is going
to be much much larger than that, based on the
speed with which this thing has been able to expand
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there has been video that we've.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Also seen of homes that are on fire. So this is.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
A situation now that is getting I mean exponentially more dangerous,
not just for the people who are trying to get out,
but for the fire crews. A couple of different TV
stations have reporters up in those neighborhoods and they are
watching law enforcement and firefighters going into homes, ushering people
out door to door, literally yelling for people to get
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out of the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
LA Fire Department, LA County Fire Department, the finest departments
you will find when it comes to firefighting in this country,
possibly the world. They are very good at this, and
they're describing this situation as dire. They're saying that this
is the ferocity of a blowtorch. Again, a dire situation.
They said this morning it was going to be life threatening.
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They said it was going to be destructive when it
came to this wind event, and they were not kidding.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
There are homes that are on fire.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
The entire Pacific Palisades area has been ordered evacuated, and
that means that everybody is trying to get out of
there at the same time.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, Palisades Drive is gridlocked. They're using all four lanes
told to are not told to to get the hell
down while fire crews are trying to use that only
and only.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Major artery to get up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Right now, radio traffic indicates that the traffic there on
Palisades Drive is gridlocked. Cars are being abandoned by people,
which is making things harder for fire engines as you
can imagine, to get up that road. So firefighters right
now are requesting that people at the top of Palisades
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Drive shelter in place at this time, don't try to
come down.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, I mean, the one thing they would have is
that the fire doesn't appear to be moving that direction.
I mean it has jumped over as you get farther south,
farther closer to the water, I should say, and it
is on the side of Palisades Drive that would be
the Getty Villa area, and as you make your way
over towards Topega Canyon Boulevard or Topenga Canyon Highway twenty
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seven there. But that's not a that doesn't make anybody
feel calm. I wouldn't expect two hundred plus acres was
the last time we saw a number associated with this,
But we know it's going to be bigger than that
once they get in more information. There's a couple pictures
of all of the different agencies that have reacted to this.
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I've seen LA County and LA City firefighting aircraft that
are in the air. They've got a couple of different
tankers with their lead spotter planes that are coming through,
just doing their circles all around. So you could imagine
it is a very busy time in those skies above
this fire trying to do what they can. That's at
least four helicopters that I see now, and then a
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couple of other tankers that continued to circle through.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Again. The winds are volatile, so there are a number
of aircraft that will not fare well in situations like this.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
At this point, there is going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
A lull, we're told by meteorologists in the afternoon, at
some point where maybe you can get on top of
this thing from the sky a little bit more. Take
advantage of that break, because the strong winds and the
strong wind gusts will make a return this evening. Now,
if you're on PCH hoping to get by this thing
before it hits PCH, you're so well traffic on PCH
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toward the Palisades is a mess. You're not going anywhere,
so your plans need to be aborted.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
At this point. I'm looking at live pictures and there's
just no.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Way that you're going to get in that direction. I
don't know if these are people trying to get to
their homes to get things out, or people trying to
get through this area on pch because it is shut
down as well.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's a Pega Canyon southbound.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah to Panga A. Mulholland is where pH is close.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We talked with Quentin Fleming from the Pacific Palisades Community
Council a little bit earlier and we discussed that one
way in, one way out, especially if you're up at
the top of the hill there in the Palisades, that
that Palisades Drive was really the only access to get
in and out of that place. Like you said, that's
one of the reasons they have suggested it if you
are up at the top of that hill, that you
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shelter in place, because they need to get the fire
equipment in there to help fight that fire.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Much farther, I.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Shouldn't say much, but a couple of miles to the
west of that is where we saw that fire last
month that burned up towards Malibu, down towards Malibu, I
should say, and it is echoing a lot of what
we saw then today, but today's exploded in size. We
were on edge in that Malibu fire. We were waiting
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for it to grow and grow exponentially, but it did not.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This one is.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
This one is taking advantage of the incredible wind speeds
that we saw, like you said, up to sixty mile
an hour gusts, if not more than that, specifically in
this area and again the entire area of Pacific Palisades.
They want you out of there so that they can
go in and fight this fire and try to protect
your homes.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Unfortunately, pictures of homes on fire. As you mentioned, We
also talked about how the President's trip to the Inland
Empire to declare some national monuments has been canceled. One
of the reasons is that it would have created problems
in airspace. Him coming on Air Force one to the
Inland Empire would definitely shut down and some airspace over
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much needed airspace, as you can imagine around southern California
with this beast that is just eating up the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now, one of the things that we mentioned this morning
when we were talking about what was going to happen
for the rest of the day and for the next
couple of days. As a matter of fact, because of
the red flag fire danger, CalFire did deploy a few
dozen fire engines and six hand crews from northern California
to come down here to Southern California, La Orange, Riverside,
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San Bernardino, San Diego, Samuis Obispo, and Ventura County. So
the local units were going to be We're staffing extra engines,
extra hand crews, bulldozers, water tenders were all ready at
the ready. But this is not This is beyond what
we have seen in terms of fire behavior in many
instances before. So that's one of the reasons why we've
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seen such an incredible response. And then there's one of
the images that we see so many times in southern
California where the palm tree is catching on fire.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And those palm trees, once they get to the fronds,
those things take off and they travel. I mean, you
don't need that palm tree to spread this thing in
terms of spotfires because of the wind, it'll carry those
those flames alone. But it doesn't make matters any better.
And look at that. Look at that live area of
just gridlock. I mean it's like trying to get out
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of a stadium after a concert or a sports event.
You're not moving because there are just so many people
and nowhere to go. And you wonder if they've got
the traffic lights configured correctly, you know, or people are
even paying attention to traffic lights at this point to
get out of there. But look at the chaos and
people just to well just be kind of one another.
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You've got civilians out there directing traffic at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
It looks like that guy's car is stalled, and that's
probably what's causing the problem right now.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
No, I mean that's moving.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah. No, these are people that have gotten out of
their cars to try and get people to go different
directions or to actually just plate traffic monitor there to
try and get these cars through. Oh, that guy's car
is stalled. Yeah wow, look at that. Look at this,
This guy's car is stalled. What of time to have
your car stall?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Four people get out of their cars to push them down.
That's nice to see, yeah, and hopefully free up at
least some of the problems.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So again it looks like traffic is gridlocked in different
areas trying to get out of Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And it looks like just like every other fire where
there's no visibility, it's just all gray, just like it
looks like.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
A war zone. It is like a bunch of bombs
have dropped.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And again there are homes that have burned. We haven't
seen what sort of plans LA City Fire or County Fire,
whoever's going to take the charge of the lead on
this would be giving updates on any of it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So we'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But that just goes to show you how feverish this is,
how hot it got, how quickly, how wide spread it is.
There's just no time to give an update. I don't
want them to waste time giving us an update, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, yeah, I mean that that along with the lack
of specific evacuation orders early on everybody and now it's
just everybody in the Palisades leave.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Every one in the Palisades area.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Leave is the evacuation order they're not just getting they're
not getting granular about which neighborhoods.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
There's no time to get granular.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I mean, just miles of smoke that have now been
blown out across the ocean and everywhere along the west side.
You can see images of this fire. You can see
it from the valley over the hills.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
There is just it is. It is big again.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There is supposed to be a lull in the winds
coming up this afternoon before they pick up again tonight.
But the red flag warning is in effect for this
area until Thursday at six pm. Still got a lot
of hours to go with this wind event.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
All right, we'll continue to keep an eye on this again.
Two hundred plus acre fire in a Pacific Palace Sades,
very dangerous situation.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
All of the Palisades has been evacuated. We are seeing
some they're trying to now they're trying to at excellent point.
We've got eyes on Palisades Drive. All four lanes, two in,
two out, all four now have been devoted to outs
as according to the people who are trying to get out. Unfortunately,
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there are fire engines trying to get in, making matters
much worse. You pointed out a palm tree that was
on fire.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, right in the median there. It's too like you said,
two lanes up and two lanes down. On Palisades Drive
and in the media and through much of it there
are palm trees. It's California, and some of the palm
trees have started to catch fire from the earlier spot
fires that we saw the embers that were blowing in.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
There was also a car that it was actually.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
A van, headed down Palisades Drive away from the fire
on the wrong side of the road that had caught fire.
But that thing burned for a good ten or fifteen
minutes before a fire truck came and they were able
to put it out just a couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But this is it's a situation.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't think anybody, well clearly nobody expected like this,
especially with people trying to get out of that hillcrest
area the top of the Palisades area, the summit, because
the only way to get out of there is through
Palisades Drive.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You can't go back the other way. You can't go
back up over the hill.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You have to come down Palisades Drive. And even with
two lanes up two lanes down, pretty sizable, I guess
access lanes on the side of that, it's just a mess.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So you can see cars that are just abandoned on
Palisades Drive. Cars that were driving down the wrong side
of the road to get out, desperate to get out.
People have just been taking off running. Now mentioned that
the fire did jump Pacific Palisades Drive, so it's on
both sides, on the Temescul side and it's on the
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side of the Getty Villa.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now listening to radio traffic that indicates the fire is
currently impacting the Getty Villa area, will be impacting Coastline
Drive area shortly, which is as you know, if you
know the area right in.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The thick of residential communities.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
As well, a couple of notes to pass on the
command center that you're going to see a lot of
don't go there. But if you are coming out of Palisades,
the area to the south is jammed. The area headed
towards Topega and then into Malibu, you're also going to
see a lot of traffic, but it's apparently not as
bad going that direction.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Also, the evacuation center.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
One evacuation center that's been set up has been set
up at the Westwood Recreation Center, which again you're going
to have to go through all of that traffic to
get out of the Palisades. To get into that area.
In terms of the wind that we saw drive this
thing for the last couple of hours and just grow
it exponentially, very quickly. Is expected to peak later tonight.
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That's not the good news. I mean, we've seen sustained
winds in thirty forty mile an hour, but we expect
winds to peak somewhere around ten o'clock tonight in the
Palisades area, peaking it around forty five miles per hour sustained,
which would put the gusts well up over sixty seventy
miles an hour possible.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Actor James Woods has posted some very graphic footage from
his driveway as he's preparing to get out.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You better hurry the hell up and get out. Several
homes around there on fire.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And again it doesn't make it any worse any better,
but these are as you can imagine multimillion dollar homes
up in flames. Again, a lot of the conversation, and
it's too soon to have it, will center around the
fact that Palisades Drive is the main and only.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Artery out of the affected area.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
The images down Palisades Drive with these cars listen, it's still, hey,
it's daylight. That's a good thing. The smoke isn't that
thick that they can't see ahead of them, but you.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Can't see daylight when you're down there in it. It's
just all gray and all smoke. And imagine the air
quality as well. But it's eerily reminiscent of the Skyway. Yeah,
when everybody was leaving that fire, Paradise up in northern Califoria.
Skyway is basically Palisades Drive.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It was the one way out of Paradise, and there
were so many people that got caught and were afraid
for their lives while they were trying to get out
of there.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I wonder what the conversation has been. And I
don't know why we haven't heard more about it, And
maybe it's just because these fires have become more explosive
in recent years, But it seems like a conversation that
we would have been abreast of in the news business
if this was a major conversation topic and the Pacific Palisades.
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Maybe it was locally, like we were talking to one
of the community council members about the fact of well,
worst case scenario, were screwed with this one major artery
in and out. And I think a lot of people
don't like to think about the worst screwed possibility, and
today we're screwed, which is why you see people just
making a run for it, you know, miles away from
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from Sunset Boulevard there, if you're coming down from Palisades,
just taking off and walking or running down down the road.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, And I think everybody, we all know some people
who who are in the Palisades. They don't have to
be celebrities, but just neighbors or friends or friends of
neighbors or whatever that do live in the Palisades. And
as far as we know, most everybody's getting out quickly
and getting out safely. But they've had to abandon cars,
like we've been saying, they've abandoned them, whether it's on
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Palisades Drive or other places on pH As they get
out of there, it is as life threatening as they expected.
I mean, this is this is kind of the worst
case scenario that they were saying, or the very bad
case scenario that was possible.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And it's coming to fruition.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And it's one of those situations where it's not that
people were dilly dallying.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So often when we cover these fires, there are people
that are interviewed to say, ma'am, I'm just gonna wait
it out. I'm just gonna see what goes on. This
was one of those fires there are. I'm pretty sure
eighty five to ninety percent of the people in the
area said oh, hell no, and just got the hell
out of there. The thing was moving so quickly, though,
that as soon as they had that thought and started
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getting in the car, everyone else had that thought. It
wasn't that people were just waiting and seeing how this
thing was going to play out.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
They wanted to get out of there, and they did.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's just that there's so few space on those roads
to make your way down the hill.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Again, the immediate threat to life. The evacuation order is
very general in terms of its location, but evacuation orders
are in effect, and they have listed the zones. It's
all of the palisades. It's the entire from the summit
all the way to down out of the water. They
want you out of there.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And from the summit there, right to the east of
that neighborhood is where this thing erupted. And it is
just a steady stream, a massive thick stream of white
and black smoke, and that black smoke of course, means
most likely homes burning, and then the fingers, the fingers
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that exist down towards near Santa Monica.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Of just the spot fires that are.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Crawling down the terrain there are also just terrifying to
see because again those embers doesn't take much to get
them flying and sparking new fires.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
All right, so this is going to be an all
day and probably well into the evening kind of a
story because as we mentioned, the wind gusts are expected
to peek later tonight and the red flag warnings for
this fire danger will continue through the next couple of days.
It could be until Friday that the red flag war
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are up in those areas. If you are making your
way out of Palisades, out of Pacific Palisades, there is
movement in traffic. Yes, it looks pretty grim in terms
of getting out of there, and we know plenty of
people have abandoned their cars and are trying to walk out,
but there is some movement. They finally have it looks
like a handle on some of the traffic control to
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try to get people out of there as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Palisades on fire right now pretty much worst case scenario
in terms of this wind event and how quickly it
hit this area, no time to respond, no time to
get out, which is why you've got people abandoning their
cars on the only major artery in and out of
the Palisades. There are four lanes, two lanes in each direction,
but everyone decided to make all four lanes one direction out.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Problem is fire engines are trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, this was We talked with Quentin Fleming from the
Community Council, the Pacific Palisades Community Council, and that question
came up. Is this something that's been talked about. I mean,
there are hundreds of homes higher up in the hill
and only one good way in and out, and it's
not like fire is new in this area. So the
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entire area has been placed under evacuation order. There are
I mean just scores and scores of images on social
media from really far away where people can see the
smoke cloud from this well down the coast, well down
the west side into the beach communities down there. The
traffic in and out of the Palisades, I shouldn't say
(23:33):
in the traffic out of the Palisades is very, very thick.
There is an evacuation center that been set up at
the Westwood Recreation Center, but it's going to take some
patients among other things to get there. We do know
that there have been homes that at least have been damaged.
We don't know of any that are complete losses as
of this point, but it just seems the way that
(23:55):
this thing was behaving early on, it's almost an inevitablity
that we're going to lose some homes in this area
and it is going to get worse potentially before it
gets better, if no other reason. Then the winds are
not expected to die. The winds have not peaked yet.
It will be several hours before they peak. In fact,
(24:16):
the expectation is that it's sometime between eight and midnight
tonight when they will peak in that area.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Thank god, we still have those super Scoopers on loan
from Quebec. They are able to fly in the winds.
They are making crucial air drops. They're able to pick
up water in headwinds of forty five miles per hour.
So those things were activated right quick and have been
attacking this thing now for a couple hours.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
The spot fires were.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
A concern that came true very quickly as well. So
you can see just fingers of active flames working down
the hills. Here, the fire did jump Palisades Drive from
the Tamescul side over to the Getty Villa side. In fact,
they do say that the fire is impacting the Gelly
Villa area, will be impacting the Coastline Drive area. Shortly
(25:07):
pch non negotiable trying to make your way to the Palisades.
There's just no way to get in. If you're trying
to get into your home or what have you. There's
it's just not tenable at this situation, at this time.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
A couple of quick notes just about we've done this
for a long time and not had an experience where
there's so much that is happening at the beginning of
an event like this that they don't they being fire authorities,
don't give out information. They were slow in putting out
specifics about the evacuation parameters because they were just saying,
(25:43):
if you're in that area, you need to get out.
It doesn't matter what zone you need to get out
of the Palisades. The other thing is our last number
is at two hundred acres. It's well over two hundred acres,
and you can tell that especially with these other spot
fires that have come up. But their priority is not
coming up with a number of how many acres. Their
(26:04):
priority is absolutely protecting people's lives and then protecting properties
and getting people in and out of their safely.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's telling that they don't have acreage. It's telling that
we are hours away from any sort of containment number.
All of this is telling that this is their number
one priority is getting people out, structure protection. I'm trying
to create a ring around something that is moving like
this and this quickly and this erratically is near and possible,
(26:32):
So hopefully they will get some work done from the
air on this thing before they are able to get
in there and do the painstaking work that will be
wildline containment line for this thing.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Wildfire containment line for a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's just literal boots on the ground hand crews that
are going in some of those areas. There are a
couple of dozen, it looks like, just based on flight radar,
twenty four aircraft in the area, which in and of
its self brings a whole series of potential problems. You've
got to be able to coordinate all of these different
firefighting aircraft you've got for the tankers. They are usually
(27:10):
following a spotterer plane or a lead plane that will
go through and indicate where it is that they need
to have water or retardant dropped down. On top of that,
you've got all of the helicopters that are in the air.
Throw into all of that. Like we were saying earlier, this
mess of traffic getting out of Palisades. The last time,
(27:30):
about fifteen twenty minutes ago we started seeing some of
the traffic really starting to move, but that was the
first time we had seen it in probably an hour
or so. It looks a lot like as you head
up the hill up Palisades Drive, you go past a
little shopping center that's got an Italian place, a little
restaurant in there, a sushi place, and a Starbucks. That
(27:52):
hillside just above that, as you head up towards the summit,
there is on fire and there are crews that are
trying to get some sort of water on that. But
you could see it right above, right on that hill
behind that little shopping center, there's all kinds of open flame.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Hey takeaway from here is if you live in a
wild fire risk area and you know when you do
just note that with this wind event we've got, with
these mountain wave winds coming down, if you're in the
San Gabriel's, the valleys, wherever you are there, because the
winds in this event are coming from the north, are
coming from the east. These things are moving ferociously, So
(28:31):
you're not going to have time to pack up the
car the way you normally would have when you are
given the evacuation order, because likely you're going to have
to evacuate before you get that order. So takeaway from
this is just be ready to go on a wind
event like this. I mean, if it means pack in
a bag, put it in the car now, why not?
Why not operate out of an abundance of caution. Again,
(28:55):
the evacuation area is basically all of the palisades from
Topanga Canyon to the to the west, all the way
down to pch and all the way over towards towards Brentwood.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I mean, it's just all of the palisades.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We haven't seen much yet of any sort of update
where we're going to get a news conference out of
fire authorities and they can give us more information and
print some specifics probably about the people who might still
be up in that area. What you can do to
protect yourself, But we will keep an eye on this
and we'll bring it to you, of course, live when
it happens, whether it's our show. John's coming on in
(29:30):
just a few minutes, and of course Deva and the
rest of the team, you're going to have everything throughout
the course of the day.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
We will see him minat Manada Manada? What's manada? Is
that a thing?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It's a tomorrow's soup. It is tomorrow's menuda.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
All right, we'll see youm mignona. Okay, stay drive everybody, blessings.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
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