(07/09) GAS Hour 4 - What’s Happening & #TrueCrimeTuesday

What’s Happening. #TrueCrimeTuesday.

Episode Transcript

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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty the Gary
and Shannon Show on demand on theiHeartRadio on app What else is going on?
Time for what's happening? Wow?Well, speaking of there was a
junior sailor who has been punished aftertrying to get into the President's restricted medical

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records. This incident took place wayback in February. This unidentified sailor searched
the words Joseph Biden three times.February twenty six, twenty four, Navy
Medicine Readiness and Training Command Fort Belvoirwas notified of an unauthorized access to medical
records by an active duty service member. A coworker reported the sailor's breach.

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Not known what records, if anything, they may have been able to pull
up, but it was not Biden'srecord. They said. NCIS immediately began
investigation after they were alerted about thesearch, and the investigation concluded. They
said, back in the beginning,towards the end of April, I should
say, we've been telling you howhot it is lately, and it's going
to be hot for the next coupleof days. We've got heat warnings and

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things to warnings and watches up throughouttomorrow and Thursday in the Antelope Valley.
Probably the longest hot streak we've seenin recent history, that's for sure.
Lancaster is topping its record for consecutivedays over one hundred at or over one

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hundred and ten degrees. They arefive straight days now at or above one
hundred and ten. That breaks theold mark from just June of twenty one
high temperature and Lancaster today expected tobe one thirteen one thirteen yesterday actually broke
the record that was set in twothousand and eight. Another hiker has died,
this one in the Grand Canyon,a man in the Grand Canyon.

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He was found unresponsible over the week, and the third death in the National
Park in just the last three weeks. Fifty year old unresponsive make mail hiker
found on the Bright Angel trail inthe Grand Canyon, about one hundred feet
from the trailhead. Bystanders who foundhim began CPR. Emergency personnel showed up.
He was a San Angelo, Texasnative and been trying to reach the

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rim from an overnight's day at HavasupaiGardens. Not yet identified. A forty
one year old man found in responsivealso that trail on June sixteenth, and
then at semi responsive sixty nine yearold hiker on a different trail back on
July first, but eventually became unresponsiveas they were trying to get help.
Yet another Metro safety issue, anotherbus driver assaulted late last night in a

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series of attacks. This incident occurreda board of bus at the corner of
MLK and Avalon at about ten o'clocklast night. The original call came in
as a report of battery and physicalcontact between a passenger and a bus operator.
When they got to the scene,officers could not figure out who the
suspect was or where he was sorryshe female black twenties representative for Metro confirmed

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that the driver was attacked and statedthe driver was treated at the scene by
paramedics for what they described as nonlife threatening injuries. There was two dogs
had to be rescued after they weredumped on a freeway off ramp in Gardena.
CHP officers driving north on the oneten saw several vehicles that were stopped

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at the Rosecrants Avenue off ramp abouteleven o'clock last night. They went to
investigate. They found cars had stoppedbecause they were afraid they were going to
hit the dogs that someone had abandoneda pit bull, the calm pit bull
and the aggressive pug. The pugtried to hide underneath another squad car and
eventually ran towards the sidewall of thefreeway, where they were able to corral

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it well. Starting in August,mid August, Sam's Club is going to
raise the minimum purchase amount amount neededto qualify for free shipping. Free shipping
will only be offered on any orderof fifty dollars or more. Otherwise they're
going to charge a flat rate ofeight bucks. They cost one hundred and

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ten bucks a year to belong toSam's Club. Plus membership touted the exclusive
benefit of free shipping, no minimumpurchases. The basic membership costs fifty bucks
a year, does not include freeshipping or free free curb side A work
goes on the website, We'll doit again an hour from now. During
the John cow Belt Show, OkayLapd was chasing this apparently stolen Toyota Camry,

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a silver one, relatively new looking. A woman got out in a
tank top in shorts, grabbed somethingout of the trunk and then got back
into the car. But as Isaid, when the helicopter shot pulled back,
it didn't look like that any lawenforcement was even aware where she was.
She's now put one of those reflectedwindshield covers up on the inside of

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the car because you know it's gonnaget hot. You know, it's eighty
degrees here in the valley and he'sgoing to warm up by the time the
officers get there. I'm hoping there'sa police helicopter out there too that may
have an idea of where she isand can direct officers. So anyway that's
on the TV, I'll keep aneye on that. Have you ever heard
of Power Slap. Power Slap isI wouldn't say it's the brainchild of Dana

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White, head of UFC, UFCPresident, but he is one of the
founders of Power Slap, a bigmoney slap fighting league. It started when
he saw some videos of a guynamed Dumpling. Dumpling is a power slapper

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and the competition basically consists of twopeople standing around on either side of a
podium I guess you'd call it andexchanging open handed slaps until one of them
is knocked out. The audio onit is crazy. Power Slap has its

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own YouTube channel that you can checkout if you like. But it is
not for the faint of heart measuringone slap. That guy was down and
there are two people behind him tocatch him as he falls down because he
is completely knocked out from one openhanded slap. How in the world is

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this? This is okay? Thethe Nevada Athletic Commission has officially licensed the
organization to host events under the NevadaAthletic Commission jurisdiction. This they're hoping would
ulster the legitimacy of two people standingaround slapping each other. They finally secured

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approval in the UFC did They finallysecured approval for events in each of the
fifty states back in twenty sixteen,and they had an uphill climb because of
what amounts to extreme physical violence,because it's ultimate fighting, that's what happens,
and there were some state athletic commissionsthat didn't want to actually allow that

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to take place in their jurisdictions.Well, doctor Gregory O'shannick as medical director
the Brain Injury Association of America andsays this is not a sport. This
is an event. A sport isa contest of skill or athleticism. He
said, this is nothing more thanyour physiological ability to withstand blunt force trauma

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to the head. It's like seeinghow many times times you could run into
a brick wall. Frank Lamosella ispresident of Power Slap and he says,
look, there's two people hitting eachother on the head, and if I
was a doctor, I'd probably tellthem, hey, this is maybe not
the best idea, but if twopeople want to do it, we provide

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the platform, and we spend aton of money making sure that they are
safe. Okay, a ton ofmoney to make sure they're safe is an
interesting way to put it. Becausethey said there are rigorous safety protocols that
they have established. The competitors getMRIs, they get electric cardiograms, physicals,

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blood exams, eye tests. Thereare two referees for every Power Slap
match, and more than any othercombat sport. Multiple teams of emergency medical
personnel and ambulance is on standby incase somebody needs to go to the hospital.
But one of the things is youwhat makes us different than say a

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boxing match, is you don't getto defend yourself. Your hands are literally
you're holding what amounts to a poolnoodle behind your back down at your waist,
so you can't use your hands todefend yourself. And even if you
see that blow coming, you can'ttense up. You can't move your shoulder

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to block part of the blow likeyou would in boxing. And that doctor
who says this is not a sportsays there will be there will be deaths
from this said, there's no doubtthere will be deaths. And when asked
about CTE de crazy Hawaiian he's oneof the slab fighters, he said,

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there was a lot of people tellingme about CTE and brain damage and all
that stuff, but he says,I've accepted it. Right now. I'm
listening to my body and I hearit very well, and I don't really
believe that it will affect me theway some people think. Okay, we'll
see how that goes. We'll doour true crime Tuesday when we come back.
And keep an eye on this stolencar. She's back in it and

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she's on the move. She's onVan Ey'es Boulevard Van Eyes at Keswick here
in the valley, So keep aneye she got back in and an officer
pulled up behind her and she tookoff. I'm assuming she removed the windshield
cover. We'll get a better shotof that. Today's latest developments when it
comes to politics and President Biden,there is a I don't even know if

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you call this a chase if theystay parked like this, but they believed
to have been stolen car at ToyotaCamray being driven by a woman is in
the Van Eyes area and right nowit's parked on Raymers Street and it's been
there for a good five six minutesor so, through the entire commercial break.

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It's just been sitting there, andit was parked in a day different
not too long ago, and asan officer pulled up behind it, the
driver took off. Now the thingis, this is on Ramer, so
there's a bunch of places. There'slike a catering, an event rental space,
there's a tip top restoration building outin front. People know that this

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car is here. So some ofthe workers in those places there along Ramers
Street have come out and are justtaking pictures of this woman sitting in the
car. She's not doing anything.And again there's no law enforcement, so
apparently. I don't consider it they'dbe that dire of a situation. But
lapd is, I guess you couldsay, in pursuit of this stolen car,

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although it's not really going anywhere.One of the big deals that's going
on today is House Democrats had abig meeting to talk about what to do
about Joe Biden. Some Democrats thatcame out of this meeting today offered support
for their party leader. After thefull court press from the White House.
This meeting ran for a couple ofhours, they said that debate was pretty

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lopsided in favor of keeping Joe Bidenon the ticket, a suggestion that at
least for now, he has preventedthe seep of individual detractors from becoming a
flood. James Clyburn, of course, one of those staunch defenders of the
president, has said we're riding withBiden. He is a pretty prominent voice

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in the Congressional Black Caucus, whichis rallied aggressively behind Biden. Despite the
performance in the debate from almost twoweeks ago, It's time for true crime
Tuesday. The story is true,sounds true, No, it sounds made
up. I don't know. Garryand Shannon present True Crime. Well,

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we've done stories before about banks whomake errors and in your credit right,
I mean they make an error wherea check gets deposited to your account,
or somebody misses a decimal point andinstead of getting you know, a couple
thousand, you get a couple hundredthousand dollars credited to your account. Dan

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Saunders is a guy who is bartenderout of Wangaratta what is that? Wan
Garrata, which is about three hoursnorth of Melbourne, Australia. So twelve
thirteen years ago, he's out withthe buddy late at night and goes out

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for a couple drinks and the agreementwas that the buddy was going to buy
drinks for the first half of thenight and Dan was on the hook to
pay for the second half of thenight. But when he goes to pay,
Dan realizes he doesn't have any cashin his wallet. So he takes
his ATM card to a bank,to the National Australia Bank ATM a short

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short distance away, and he said, I'll be honest, that was a
little bit more tipsy at that time. So throws his card in and realizes
he got no money. He hadthree dollars in his account, and one
of the options that the ATM offeredwas a transfer of funds from his credit

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account to his bank account. Headmit again he knew he was drunk and
said, this may have been whyI did it, but I took that
option. So he attempts to usethe feature to transfer two hundred bucks to
his account again from credit to hisbank account, and he said he wasn't
surprised when the transaction canceled message flashedup on the screen, but when he

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went back to the balance on hisregular account, it's said that there were
two hundred and three dollars in there. So again he's on the hook to
pay for the drink, so hegrabs some cash and goes back and hangs
out with his buddy and finishes thenight on the way home, and again,

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after several more drinks, he passesanother ATM for a National Australia bank
and he stops and he tries tofigure it out. He tries again to
transfer the funds into his account.Once again it says transaction canceled, but
the bank account once again showed anotheraddition of two hundred bucks to his account,

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so he tried again. This timehe tried two thousand dollars instead of
two hundred dollars, and he wenthome and went to bed. The following
morning, he checks his account andhe figures out he was over two thousand
dollars in credit. And that's howthis began. He wasn't a thief.

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Dan was a good guy up untilthis point in his life. He'd never
been involved with police. He didn'tget much so much as a speeding ticket,
and initially seems to have been drivenby curiosity as much as anything else.
He spent two thousand bucks pretty quickly, and he goes back to the
ATM and he gets another two thousandbucks, and again, and again,

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and again and again. He doesit over and over again. He has
no idea what's going on. Hedoes not understand how this glitch is working.
First, he thought it only workedin the early hours of the morning,
when the ATM would have been offline. Later, he figured out it
works any time of the day,and it worked at any atm. What

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he would discover was that after atime, the balance would catch up and
show that the money he had transferred. Dan became aware of this when he
became nervous and stopped transferring cash atthe ATM. A few days later,
his his bank account was twenty thousanddollars overdrawn and frozen, and this was
the key time he had to makea decision. He used this glitch to

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his benefit. He transferred sixty thousanddollars to his account and immediately it gave
him a forty thousand dollars in credit. But now he understands if he stops
do this, stops doing this,it's going to catch up to him and
he would be in massive debt.We'll explain how Dan, he's now sixty

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thousand dollars in credit that should nothave gone to his bank account is in
his account. Okay, so I'mtalking about Dan Saunders. Dan Saunders is
a guy who found a glitch inthe ATM one night while he was out
drinking and he didn't have any cashin his account. But the ATM gave
him the option of transferring some moneyfrom his credit to his bank account,

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and he found he could do ittwo hundred bucks at a time, and
then two thousand bucks at a time. At one point he realized that the
bank was going to catch on becausehe was basically overdrawing his own account,
but for some reason, the bank, if he would just type in a
number, would then credit his accountthat number, and of I guess,

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eventually take it out of his checkingaccount. Well, here's the thing.
He gets to the point where ifhe stops making these transfers, the system
is going to catch up. He'sgoing to be massively in debt, the
bank's going to find out, andhe's going to be in big trouble.
His girlfriend became increasingly concerned about whathe was doing, about the amount of

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money that he was spending, andthe fact that he seemed to be visiting
atm so often, and even thoughthey had planned to get married, she
broke it off. She knew somethingwas wrong. And then after the breakup,
things go real bad for Dan.And again Dan is just a bartender
some little town outside of Melbourne,Australia. He's not a guy who has

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money, or at least not aguy who knows how to handle money.
So he begins, this is afunny way to put it, he begins
paying for the company of women,and he begins taking his friends on these
very exotic vacations. At one pointhe chartered a helicopter to take a small

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group of people to a two thousanddollars per night luxury hotel, and again,
all of this funded by these dailyvisits to the ATM that were he
would just transfer larger and larger amounts. That may have been part of the
downfall is that he started getting greedy. The bank didn't seem concerned by all

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of this, which is weird.The bank would occasionally call Dan to confirm
it was him who had used thecard when it was used to charge unusually
large amounts, but as long ashe confirmed, there didn't seem to be
a problem with this. On oneoccasion, a member of the staff from

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the bank called and asked Dan,excuse me, sir, did you try
to withdraw nine hundred thousand dollars froman ATM last night? And all Dan
had to say was sorry, mate, I was pretty drunk, probably pressed
the wrong buttons, and they wouldjust laugh it off. Less than three

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months into his spending spree, physically, Dan started having problems. He was
seriously overweight, he couldn't sleep,He started getting panic attacks that were so
severely needed medication to deal with them. After four and a half months,
he finally decides to stop, andhe estimates that by that time, four

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and a half months of the spendingspree, he had spent over half a
million million dollars that wasn't his andhe knew he'd never be able to repay
that. He knew that when hestopped making these transfers, the bank is
going to recognize that he is massivelyin debt. The thing is, he
closed his account and nothing happened,so the following bank. The following month,

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he called the bank, and thebank kind of implied that they knew
what was going on, but theydidn't want to talk to him because they
claimed they'd already turned it over tothe police. But again, nothing happened.
For three years, nothing happened.Dan's anxiety became a massive problem and

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he began to see a psychiatrist,but that didn't help. The psychiatrist said,
well, you should probably turn yourselfin mate, So he needed to
talk to somebody. Started telling friendsand family that the money had come from
stock and share trading and successful betting. Nobody really knew what happened. Dan
talked to the newspapers. They ranthe story. Dan appeared on an Australian

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current affairs television show and explained whathad been done, and finally, after
all of this, press people werevery interested. In twenty fourteen, he
was charged with over one hundred countsof fraud and theft. When he went
to court, he said it wasjust as surreal as the time that he

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was actually taken money. Because thebank did not want to provide details of
how he was able to obtain somuch money. It was clear that neither
the prosecutor nor the judge actually understoodwhat had happened. Though it was obvious
that at one point six million dollarsfrom the National Australia Bank had somehow found
its way into Dan's account. Howmuch of that he actually spent not very

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clear. And in Australia they havea rule specifically a law larceny by fine.
Larceny by finding is a crime.It means you can't just keep the
money or something that you find.It would be illegal, even if you
don't actually steal them yourself, andthat's what Dan Saunders eventually pleaded guilty to

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larceny by finding, sentenced to twelvemonths in prison, eighteen months probation,
basically, ordered to pay a quartermillion in compensation, and once again found
work as a bartender and lives anormal life, but he said, this
is crazy. He admitted how goodit felt being able to make your account
balance move up into the millions simplyby the stroke of a key was a

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very addictive thing, and he said, I felt like a caveman discovering fire.
But his biggest, biggest find inall of that was he realized that
having all the money in the worlddid not make him happy, and in
fact made him sick to the pointhe lost his girlfriend. He almost lost
his life because of his panic attacksand his obesity. He was having a

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hard time. Don't don't do drugs, kids, and don't steal from the
banks. You've been listening to theGary and Shannon Show. You can always
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