August 27, 2024 • 24 mins
What’s Happening. #TerrorInTheSkies. #TrueCrimeTuesday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand on.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The iHeartRadio app. What else is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Time for What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh, we've been talking about this since the start of
the show. There was a letter from Mark Zuckerberg that said,
we kowtout essentially to the Biden administration during COVID and
the information they wanted us to limit, or the information
they wanted us to push. We regret it, and it's
not going to happen again. Pretty eye opening letter that. Yeah,
(00:35):
I mean his admission.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I don't know what it was that made him change
his position on that or made the realization that that
was the mistake to give into it and to be
quiet about it as well, but pretty tersely worded as well.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He said that Metas put policies in place to ensure
that similar censorship of stories does not happen again.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Out of Downtown, LA, former high powered litigator Tom You're
a convicted of running a massive ten year long Ponzi scheme.
Prosecutor said he's siphoned at least fifteen million dollars in
settlement funds from at least four of his clients, and
then paid for extravagant lifestyle for himself and his wife.
During closing arguments yesterday, the assistant US attorney told the
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jury that Girardi wanted the outside world to believe that
he was fighting for people who couldn't help themselves, but
instead clients who were expecting settlement funds waited as days
turned into months and months turned into years.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, former President Trump is weighing in on the debate.
This is set for September tenth. ABC News.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, he tweeted sorry, posted on truth Social just a
short time ago. I've reached an agreement with the radical
left Democrats for a debate with Comrade Kamala Harris. It
will be broadcast live on ABC fake News by far
the nastiest, most unfair newscaster in the business, on Tuesday,
September tenth in Philly. The rules will be the same
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as the last CNN debate, which seemed to work out
well for everyone except perhaps Crooked Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
The debate will be stand up and candidates cannot bring
notes or cheat sheets. Will also have been given assurance
by ABC this will be a fair and equitable debate
and that neither side will be given the questions in advance.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No Donna Brazil, he goes.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
He says Harris would not agree to the Fox News
debate September fourth, but that date will be held open
in case she changes her mind or flip flops, as
she has done on every single one of her long
held and cherished policy. Believes a possible third debate, which
would go to NBC fake News, has not been agreed
to by the radical left.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And then all caps God bless America.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oasis has come through with their reunion announcement fifteen years
after war between these two brothers, and it really has
been I mean, the two have thrown tambourines at each other,
hit each other with cricket bats. It's been a mess.
It seems fueled by alcohol for the most part, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, it also seems fueled by a holes with alcohol.
None of these neither of these two guys Liam or
characters are the Noel seem like they're fun to be
around now. OJ's longtime lawyer and now executor of his
estate says that when Oj was cremated, the remains were
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then transformed into cremation jewelry, which were divvied up among
his four children.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Listen, damn, I don't know this guy.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
What's his name, Malcolm whatever it is. He says that
Malcolm Laverne. He didn't want to say exactly what kind
of jewelry pieces the children got, but it's usually a
necklace or a bracelet with a miniature urn as a pendant.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Kids are now, Jason Sidney and Justin.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I just found the problem with Liam and Noel Gallagher.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
No father in the house exactly. Really, you nailed it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Raise your kids, guys, Raise them kids.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's time for terror in the skies.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Bid Roger, get off my plane.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Roger Rogers, what are vector Victor? I have with these
mumpy pipe and snakes on this money? It's Gary and
Shannon's terror in the skies.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What do you want to talk about first?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
The two people killed by the tire or the sexual assault. Well,
usually we just have men urinating on board.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Now these are pretty dark, man.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
This is weird because back at the beginning of the month,
there was a tire on a Delta AIRLINESES flight that
popped while they were landing.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Apparently one person got hurt.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Now they're saying two people died after a Delta Airline
tire exploded while it was being changed at Atlanta's Hartsfield
Jackson International Airport. A Delta employee and a contractor killed
at the scene. A third person suffered serious injuries. All
of this happened in a maintenance area of the airport
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just after would have been five this morning. There was
also a Delta Boeing airplane that lost its nose wheel
while attempting to take off from that airport. It's going
on with Delta and their wheels, their wheels and tires, Well, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Better than well, I don't know Delta good. I have
a good feeling about Delta runs the chargers charger a charter,
chargers charter.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Flights.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I've never flown enough to have a favorite and a
favorite or an opinion. I like Southwest, I know what
I'm getting. I like Alaska, I know what I'm getting too.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I really don't have a bad feeling about any of
them except United.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I feel like, well, see, that's the thing is, I've
heard bad things about United. I flew United Friday and
it was great. Yeah, like everything was great, great, that's good.
I just don't know what, I don't see enough differences
between the airlines to be like they're awesome and they suck.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
My friends who.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Are business travelers definitely have That's probably favorite, because you
have to have a breadth of experience to really know
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And I don't travel enough either.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Also, a woman is suing American Airlines after she says
she was assaulted on board by a stranger sitting next
to her. New Jersey woman suing the airline after this
incident from two years ago now. During a night flight
almost exactly two years ago, a night flight from Charlotte,
North Carolina to Newark Liberty International Airport, It's claimed that
after being taking a seat next to her friend, she
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closes her eyes to sleep and some unknown male passenger
assaulted her in a pretty graphic way. The lawsuit said.
Shortly after take off, the flight attendant turn off the
cabin lights, plainetif closed her eyes to sleep, and when
she woke, she found the unknown dude's arm inside her
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pants and his hand forcing her hand onto his parts.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh oh, that's not good.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
According to the suit, the stranger had covered up the
both of them with a big black puffer jacket. So
nobody could see what was going on, she said. As
she woke up, she described being frozen and in a
state of shock. Now the traveler managed to climb on
top of the woman and continue his assault. She was
able to finally push this guy away, at which point
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he quickly returned to his seat. I don't know, I
don't know what that means. Was he not seated next
to her. She was able to wake her friend, who
reported the allegtion assault to a flight attendant. She was
switched to a different seat for the remainder of the flight,
and after the plane landed, he was escorted off the plane.
Authorities took reports from the victim and other passengers. Now,
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hold on a second, there's so much here that I
don't quite understand.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
There were other people who saw what was going on
and didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, you would Chuck Connor's that guy if you
saw somebody getting assaulted on a plane, don't you think? Well?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I would hope so.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
But I think the calculus of it is Okay, if
I'm wrong on this, I'm getting kicked off this plane.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But I feel like that's a risk i'd be willing
to take.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
If I thought something like that was actually happening in
front of me, or next to me or behind me,
that I would be okay with the threat of Hey,
I thought I was doing a good thing.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Don't want to waste any more time. Let's get to
our special guest for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Story is true, that's true.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, it sounds I don't know. Gary and Shannon present
True Crime.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, we want to welcome back our family member, Laura Ingle.
Of course, now with News Nation, you can follow her
at Laura Ingle Ingle with an ie. You know this
on Instagram. She is at Laura Ingle TV. Laura, before
we get to the mail that you've been getting from
a convicted.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Serial killer sounds like fun.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I wanted to get.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Your thoughts on this Peacock documentary where we hear from
Scott Peterson for the first time since he was convicted
of killing Lacey and Connor.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'll tell you, I said, right for the break.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I started watching this when we were at the DNC
in Chicago, and I got maybe forty five seconds into
his first response when I'm like, you know what, I'm
not giving you my attention. I don't want to sit
here and listen to the lies.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well, first of all, what I want to think about
is that intro you just played for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I don't know who made it. It's brilliant. Thank you
for having me back.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And of course family members there at KFI and people
in LA know that we covered every single inch of
the Scott Peterson case from beginning to end, from when
Lacey was still missing and we were in the deskto
outside of their home, through the trial, through the sentencing,
and then watching them go off to San Quentin. And
what was really interesting, Shanna, I was watching it too.
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Of course, we've got these dueling talky.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Series, right.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So Netflix came out with Theirs, and that features Sharon Roache,
the mother of Lacy Peterson, who we also have not
heard that heard from in years and years, and the
girlfriends of Lady Peterson, and it's heartbreaking and devastating. Then
face to face with Scott Peterson on Peacock has the
first interview Asheren Anderson. She's the one who got the
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interview that we've all been after. I've been writing to
Scott Peterson for years, I've been in touch with his
family members and didn't you find it interesting that he
sounded and looked and behaved exactly the way he did
in those initial interviews that he did with Ted Rowlins,
Gloria Gomez, Diane Sawyer kind of that same, All the
same mannerisms were there, So I wasn't too surprised with that,
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but it was just really interesting because she did it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Through video conference.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
He's in I own California at Mule Creek State Prison.
We heard the same thing like he still hangs it
on the burglary that happened across the street, heard a
few details about the things that he remembers about Lacey,
hearing that the detectives were talking about him behind his
back while they were in.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
The home initially.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
And then I found it, of course very interesting that
they borrowed some of my own reporting, they borrowed from
a lot of people's reporting. I saw some of the
coverage that I did with the documentary I did a
couple of years ago, and then some reporting we did
this year with News Nation in Modesto.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
When I was with Chris Clomo on his show, going.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
To the neighborhood in Modesto, driving to the alley where
the orange van was found that was burned out. So
dueling docusies with some really deep dives on the case,
and it's it's also I can't believe that there are
some people, of course, that don't even remember the Scott
Peterson case, which is wild to me because we lived
it together on KFI. But it is a new true
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crime case for a lot of people who had never
heard about it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I know that you've also recently spoken with Modesto PD
detectives again about what Valibaltics case.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I had on a retired detective John Bueller, who I'd
stayed in touch with through the years, two weekends ago
here when I was anchoring on the.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Weekend and I wanted to get his take.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
He's in both documentaries, both him and al Borkeini, the
other former detective, and I interviewed him for the documentary
I did. They both said the same thing that if
there was new evidence, you know, the la Innocence Project
is going after all of the evidence that they say
they didn't get, the witness testimony that they say should
have been introduced that was discarded, and both Bueller and
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BROKINI told me, look, if there was something, why did
they bring it up?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
And we feel like we've covered every single inch of
this case.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
And they don't believe that there would be any different
outcome if they were to retest absolutely everything that was
in question with the La Innocence Project. As we know,
the judge in San Mateo County is only going to
allow the retesting of one of the items, one of
the items on the list, which is the duct tape
that was a fifteen inch a fifteen inch piece of
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duct tape that was found only Peterson's pants. They are
going to retest. That question now is who's going to
test it?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
And what are those answers?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If you want to see If you all haven't seen
the one on Netflix, that one, I watched the whole
way through and you can see John yelling through his
through the bulln really yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Oh yes. I remember that day so well.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
We had camped out, we had built a little studio.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
And John and Ken said we're coming up there.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
We're going to get our we're going to get answered.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
And here they came rolling down the street.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
And when I saw the bullhorn, I said, oh god,
I'm the one that's going to have to stay here
continue reporting after you guys leave. But it makes it
in almost every documentary and it was quite a moment
because Scott Peterson then called the police.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
And it's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I mean, for people who know this case really well,
whenever you see Scott Peterson in a blue sweatshirt and
khaki shorts and he looks irritated, they use that clip
and a lot of different documentaries for a lot of
different reasons. But all you have to do is know
that it was John and Ken at the end of
the driveway was Ray Lopez. That was Brusilo Lopez that
was trying to get him to come out and tell
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them something that he of.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Course only called the police to complain about.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
That but really interesting, and of course many people ask me,
do you think he's going to get another child? Do
you think it's going to happen. Anything is possible. It
would be really interesting, but you would just take to see,
you know, the family of Lacy Peterson have to go
through it again.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
But we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's how I felt.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But I didn't need a bullhorn when I was watching
that Peacock documentary. I'm tired of your lies.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Well, and both of the docuseries are I think both
of them are really well done, and it just gives you.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
When you watch both of them, you go, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Remember, you know, it's just like all the different things.
It's not just and everybody always brings up the parison
the Eiffel Tower, the phone call he made from the vigil,
which was of course so damning and so awful, But
there were other things that you need to It's like
this big lasagna, these big layers of items that happened
and things that he said. But as some other reporters
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in these docusries say, if you take each and every
one of these, I'm playing devil as advocate here. But
when you take each and every one of those items,
it doesn't necessarily it's all circumstantial. Most of it is circumstantial.
The hair empires that we was trying to bloat, that
is Lacy's is probably.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
The biggest one. Of course, that's the only physical piece
of evidence.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But when you layer all the other things together, it
paints a really damning picture. And that's what Bueller has
always said, that these were all puzzle pieces.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
They all didn't make sense at first, but once.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
They started laying it out and putting it together, it
all ended with the Scott Peterson Eagles guilty and he's.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Where he needs to be, says Bueller.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So what's going on with the Happy Face Killer and
the mail he's been sending you?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
So yeah, so this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So I've been covering the Long Island serial which.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
In New York, and that's Rex Pureman. He's a suspect.
He's been arrested. He had a.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Kind of a communication back and forth with the Happy
Face Killer. Keith Jefferson, a serial killer convicted in Oregon
who is serving multiple life sentences for killing eight women.
He says he's killed more and he reached out to
Keith Jefferson.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
At the beginning of the year.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's kind of a long story, but Keith Jefferson's daughter
had reached out to Rex Hurman's family to say, hey,
I know what you're going through. Rex Human reached out
to Keith saying, hey, I appreciate your family member reaching
out to mine.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Had one letter exchange.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It became public and I was like, whoa to a
serial killer? Is talking to a suspected serial killer? Then
I reached out to Keith Jefferson and he has started
writing me back a lot of letters. I get a
lot of these double sided, a lot of it, talking
about his life in prison, what outside of prison?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Why? Sometimes you know, he talks about some of the victims,
but doesn't tell me a lot about him. But then
recently he sent.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Me these eleven x fourteen very colorful, vibrant rainbow color
the bells, And when I pulled them out of the envelope,
I had no idea what to expect. And I don't
really know why he made them for me, but I
know that he's an artist.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
He doesn't make art for certain people.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
He does send his art around, and he decided that
he wanted to make me these mixtures. And we're going
to talk about it on Danfield tomorrow. We haven't revealed them,
we haven't shown them yet, but we're going to show
them on News Nation tomorrow at ten Central, ten Eastern
with Ashley Badfield.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk
about some of the developments in the case.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Case actually in your jurisdiction, your neck of the Woods,
Riverside County, there's a victim that has still not been
identified that the Riverside County District Attorney's Office is working
to connect him to this victim that he has been
charged for they just don't know who she is. It's
a really odd twist that involves Riverside County again.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Tomorrow night on Banfield to be seven o'clock Pacific, ten
o'clock Eastern.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
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Speaker 3 (18:39):
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Speaker 6 (18:41):
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Speaker 4 (18:43):
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Speaker 6 (18:47):
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Speaker 4 (18:49):
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Speaker 6 (18:55):
Great coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Thanks Laura. All right, talk soon, all right you guys.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
We're in the middle of true Crime Tuesday, and a
nineteen eighty four murder is being explored in a new
true crime special. It's called The Girl on the Milk Carton.
This is before the era of Amber alerts. If you're young,
this is back when we had to missing kids on
milk cartons in the eighties. Put their faces on there.
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And the killer in this case, the killer of John L. Matthews,
turns out to be quite the man connected to the
case from.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Go very weird. His name was Steve Panky.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
And again, like you said, nineteen eighty four was when
Michelle disappeared John L.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Janelle disappeared Janelle Matthews.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
She was a seventh grader.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
She vanished five days before Christmas in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
She's twelve at the time.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
After a Christmas concert with classmates, she was taken home
by a friend and the friend's father. Mom was out
of town for Karen for Grandma. Dad was at the
sister's basketball game, and this friend's father dropped her off
at home December twentieth. They stayed and watched her walk
into the front door of the ranch style home, the
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yard blanketed by snow. Because again it's right before Christmas,
that was the last that she had been seeing.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So it's this guy's ex wife that is talking about
what she remembers. Angela Hicks is her name. You also
hear from the local police who investigated this thing for
almost forty years. It wasn't until twenty nineteen that they
trapped this guy down. He also she played a role
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in solving the case. The ex wife did well.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
One of the things that happened was after the they'd
heard about the disappearance. They were in Big Bear they're
here in California. They he wants to make a beeline
home for some reason.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, and well it was an impromptu trip to begin with,
to begin with, and then yeah, they left Big Bear
Lake abruptly when they learned of this little girl's disappearance.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
She says.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We were driving and Steve said, turn the radio on.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
She says it was unusual for us because he had
banned radio, TV and newspapers a year before.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
We didn't have any of that in our lives.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I assumed he wanted me to find some music to
listen to, some old fifties rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I tried to.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Find that, but he said no, No, he wanted me
to put on the news channels. That's when I heard
Joanelle Matthews was missing. That's what he wanted to hear.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yeah, and he kept showing this weird interest in this case,
and even his wife was like, why is this, Why
is this going on? He wasn't a suspect in the murder,
but somehow he wanted to be kept up on the
investigation and wanted to know everything about it.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Even in the early days of the case.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
He was the one who reached out to law enforcement,
but it took a very long time for him to
actually become a suspect in the case, which I don't get.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Ronald Reagan even took up the case as part of
his administration's attempt to find all the missing children of
the eighties, the more than one million children who disappeared
each year.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, she's credited with being the first picture that showed
up on milk cartons if you remember that from the eighties.
This guy, this Steve Panky guy. Eventually he had brushes
with the law. He had fights with people. At one point,
they said that he had kept up to date on
the case even as he was moving to several different states.
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He in nineteen ninety nine told the Idaho Supreme Court
after he caused a scene at a bank, that his
conviction had been an attempt to force him to become
an informant in Janelle Matthews's disappearance. And he told police
they were persecuting him because he wouldn't tell them what
they wanted to know about Janelle Matthews.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
He did the type. Did they just think he was crazy?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I guess He told his wife at one point, Do
you really think I would hurt her when she looks
so much like you?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Okay, I would call the cops. Yeah, for that statement alone,
he did turn to politics.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He ran as a gubernatorial candidate in twenty fourteen and
then again in twenty eighteen, and then he was labeled
as a person of interest that year. He claimed to
have information about what happened to the little girl and
started asking for immunity from prosecution.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
See, this is the kind of guy who wants to
get caught, wants to get caught.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
There was a phone call then that was placed to
one of the detectives. They learned that some of the
remains had been found and they actually had braces affixed
to the teeth still, which is what Janelle had when
she went missing. So they said they could still see
and make out the colors of the different pieces of
clothing and said, this is again one of the detectives.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I was trembling.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
All hands were on deck that at this point they
knew that he was the guy. They did a search
warrant at his comp and they figured that he was connected.
They had lived about three miles away from Janelle's home
when he was a youth pastor at a church.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
The Girl on the Milk Carton is available on Oxygen
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If you want to check it out all right.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You
can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and
anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The iHeartRadio app. What else is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Time for What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh, we've been talking about this since the start of
the show. There was a letter from Mark Zuckerberg that said,
we kowtout essentially to the Biden administration during COVID and
the information they wanted us to limit, or the information
they wanted us to push. We regret it, and it's
not going to happen again. Pretty eye opening letter that. Yeah,
(00:35):
I mean his admission.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I don't know what it was that made him change
his position on that or made the realization that that
was the mistake to give into it and to be
quiet about it as well, but pretty tersely worded as well.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He said that Metas put policies in place to ensure
that similar censorship of stories does not happen again.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Out of Downtown, LA, former high powered litigator Tom You're
a convicted of running a massive ten year long Ponzi scheme.
Prosecutor said he's siphoned at least fifteen million dollars in
settlement funds from at least four of his clients, and
then paid for extravagant lifestyle for himself and his wife.
During closing arguments yesterday, the assistant US attorney told the
(01:19):
jury that Girardi wanted the outside world to believe that
he was fighting for people who couldn't help themselves, but
instead clients who were expecting settlement funds waited as days
turned into months and months turned into years.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, former President Trump is weighing in on the debate.
This is set for September tenth. ABC News.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, he tweeted sorry, posted on truth Social just a
short time ago. I've reached an agreement with the radical
left Democrats for a debate with Comrade Kamala Harris. It
will be broadcast live on ABC fake News by far
the nastiest, most unfair newscaster in the business, on Tuesday,
September tenth in Philly. The rules will be the same
(02:01):
as the last CNN debate, which seemed to work out
well for everyone except perhaps Crooked Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
The debate will be stand up and candidates cannot bring
notes or cheat sheets. Will also have been given assurance
by ABC this will be a fair and equitable debate
and that neither side will be given the questions in advance.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No Donna Brazil, he goes.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
He says Harris would not agree to the Fox News
debate September fourth, but that date will be held open
in case she changes her mind or flip flops, as
she has done on every single one of her long
held and cherished policy. Believes a possible third debate, which
would go to NBC fake News, has not been agreed
to by the radical left.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And then all caps God bless America.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oasis has come through with their reunion announcement fifteen years
after war between these two brothers, and it really has
been I mean, the two have thrown tambourines at each other,
hit each other with cricket bats. It's been a mess.
It seems fueled by alcohol for the most part, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, it also seems fueled by a holes with alcohol.
None of these neither of these two guys Liam or
characters are the Noel seem like they're fun to be
around now. OJ's longtime lawyer and now executor of his
estate says that when Oj was cremated, the remains were
(03:28):
then transformed into cremation jewelry, which were divvied up among
his four children.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Listen, damn, I don't know this guy.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
What's his name, Malcolm whatever it is. He says that
Malcolm Laverne. He didn't want to say exactly what kind
of jewelry pieces the children got, but it's usually a
necklace or a bracelet with a miniature urn as a pendant.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Kids are now, Jason Sidney and Justin.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I just found the problem with Liam and Noel Gallagher.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
No father in the house exactly. Really, you nailed it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Raise your kids, guys, Raise them kids.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's time for terror in the skies.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Bid Roger, get off my plane.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Roger Rogers, what are vector Victor? I have with these
mumpy pipe and snakes on this money? It's Gary and
Shannon's terror in the skies.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What do you want to talk about first?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
The two people killed by the tire or the sexual assault. Well,
usually we just have men urinating on board.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Now these are pretty dark, man.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
This is weird because back at the beginning of the month,
there was a tire on a Delta AIRLINESES flight that
popped while they were landing.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Apparently one person got hurt.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Now they're saying two people died after a Delta Airline
tire exploded while it was being changed at Atlanta's Hartsfield
Jackson International Airport. A Delta employee and a contractor killed
at the scene. A third person suffered serious injuries. All
of this happened in a maintenance area of the airport
(05:19):
just after would have been five this morning. There was
also a Delta Boeing airplane that lost its nose wheel
while attempting to take off from that airport. It's going
on with Delta and their wheels, their wheels and tires, Well, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Better than well, I don't know Delta good. I have
a good feeling about Delta runs the chargers charger a charter,
chargers charter.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's hard to say.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Flights.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I've never flown enough to have a favorite and a
favorite or an opinion. I like Southwest, I know what
I'm getting. I like Alaska, I know what I'm getting too.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I really don't have a bad feeling about any of
them except United.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I feel like, well, see, that's the thing is, I've
heard bad things about United. I flew United Friday and
it was great. Yeah, like everything was great, great, that's good.
I just don't know what, I don't see enough differences
between the airlines to be like they're awesome and they suck.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
My friends who.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Are business travelers definitely have That's probably favorite, because you
have to have a breadth of experience to really know
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And I don't travel enough either.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Also, a woman is suing American Airlines after she says
she was assaulted on board by a stranger sitting next
to her. New Jersey woman suing the airline after this
incident from two years ago now. During a night flight
almost exactly two years ago, a night flight from Charlotte,
North Carolina to Newark Liberty International Airport, It's claimed that
after being taking a seat next to her friend, she
(06:55):
closes her eyes to sleep and some unknown male passenger
assaulted her in a pretty graphic way. The lawsuit said.
Shortly after take off, the flight attendant turn off the
cabin lights, plainetif closed her eyes to sleep, and when
she woke, she found the unknown dude's arm inside her
(07:22):
pants and his hand forcing her hand onto his parts.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh oh, that's not good.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
According to the suit, the stranger had covered up the
both of them with a big black puffer jacket. So
nobody could see what was going on, she said. As
she woke up, she described being frozen and in a
state of shock. Now the traveler managed to climb on
top of the woman and continue his assault. She was
able to finally push this guy away, at which point
(07:50):
he quickly returned to his seat. I don't know, I
don't know what that means. Was he not seated next
to her. She was able to wake her friend, who
reported the allegtion assault to a flight attendant. She was
switched to a different seat for the remainder of the flight,
and after the plane landed, he was escorted off the plane.
Authorities took reports from the victim and other passengers. Now,
(08:11):
hold on a second, there's so much here that I
don't quite understand.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
There were other people who saw what was going on
and didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, you would Chuck Connor's that guy if you
saw somebody getting assaulted on a plane, don't you think? Well?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I would hope so.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
But I think the calculus of it is Okay, if
I'm wrong on this, I'm getting kicked off this plane.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But I feel like that's a risk i'd be willing
to take.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
If I thought something like that was actually happening in
front of me, or next to me or behind me,
that I would be okay with the threat of Hey,
I thought I was doing a good thing.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Don't want to waste any more time. Let's get to
our special guest for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Story is true, that's true.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, it sounds I don't know. Gary and Shannon present
True Crime.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, we want to welcome back our family member, Laura Ingle.
Of course, now with News Nation, you can follow her
at Laura Ingle Ingle with an ie. You know this
on Instagram. She is at Laura Ingle TV. Laura, before
we get to the mail that you've been getting from
a convicted.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Serial killer sounds like fun.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I wanted to get.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Your thoughts on this Peacock documentary where we hear from
Scott Peterson for the first time since he was convicted
of killing Lacey and Connor.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'll tell you, I said, right for the break.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I started watching this when we were at the DNC
in Chicago, and I got maybe forty five seconds into
his first response when I'm like, you know what, I'm
not giving you my attention. I don't want to sit
here and listen to the lies.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well, first of all, what I want to think about
is that intro you just played for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I don't know who made it. It's brilliant. Thank you
for having me back.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And of course family members there at KFI and people
in LA know that we covered every single inch of
the Scott Peterson case from beginning to end, from when
Lacey was still missing and we were in the deskto
outside of their home, through the trial, through the sentencing,
and then watching them go off to San Quentin. And
what was really interesting, Shanna, I was watching it too.
(10:25):
Of course, we've got these dueling talky.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Series, right.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So Netflix came out with Theirs, and that features Sharon Roache,
the mother of Lacy Peterson, who we also have not
heard that heard from in years and years, and the
girlfriends of Lady Peterson, and it's heartbreaking and devastating. Then
face to face with Scott Peterson on Peacock has the
first interview Asheren Anderson. She's the one who got the
(10:48):
interview that we've all been after. I've been writing to
Scott Peterson for years, I've been in touch with his
family members and didn't you find it interesting that he
sounded and looked and behaved exactly the way he did
in those initial interviews that he did with Ted Rowlins,
Gloria Gomez, Diane Sawyer kind of that same, All the
same mannerisms were there, So I wasn't too surprised with that,
(11:10):
but it was just really interesting because she did it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Through video conference.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
He's in I own California at Mule Creek State Prison.
We heard the same thing like he still hangs it
on the burglary that happened across the street, heard a
few details about the things that he remembers about Lacey,
hearing that the detectives were talking about him behind his
back while they were in.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
The home initially.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
And then I found it, of course very interesting that
they borrowed some of my own reporting, they borrowed from
a lot of people's reporting. I saw some of the
coverage that I did with the documentary I did a
couple of years ago, and then some reporting we did
this year with News Nation in Modesto.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
When I was with Chris Clomo on his show, going.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
To the neighborhood in Modesto, driving to the alley where
the orange van was found that was burned out. So
dueling docusies with some really deep dives on the case,
and it's it's also I can't believe that there are
some people, of course, that don't even remember the Scott
Peterson case, which is wild to me because we lived
it together on KFI. But it is a new true
(12:13):
crime case for a lot of people who had never
heard about it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I know that you've also recently spoken with Modesto PD
detectives again about what Valibaltics case.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I had on a retired detective John Bueller, who I'd
stayed in touch with through the years, two weekends ago
here when I was anchoring on the.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Weekend and I wanted to get his take.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
He's in both documentaries, both him and al Borkeini, the
other former detective, and I interviewed him for the documentary
I did. They both said the same thing that if
there was new evidence, you know, the la Innocence Project
is going after all of the evidence that they say
they didn't get, the witness testimony that they say should
have been introduced that was discarded, and both Bueller and
(12:58):
BROKINI told me, look, if there was something, why did
they bring it up?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
And we feel like we've covered every single inch of
this case.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
And they don't believe that there would be any different
outcome if they were to retest absolutely everything that was
in question with the La Innocence Project. As we know,
the judge in San Mateo County is only going to
allow the retesting of one of the items, one of
the items on the list, which is the duct tape
that was a fifteen inch a fifteen inch piece of
(13:26):
duct tape that was found only Peterson's pants. They are
going to retest. That question now is who's going to
test it?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
And what are those answers?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If you want to see If you all haven't seen
the one on Netflix, that one, I watched the whole
way through and you can see John yelling through his
through the bulln really yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Oh yes. I remember that day so well.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
We had camped out, we had built a little studio.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
And John and Ken said we're coming up there.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
We're going to get our we're going to get answered.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
And here they came rolling down the street.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
And when I saw the bullhorn, I said, oh god,
I'm the one that's going to have to stay here
continue reporting after you guys leave. But it makes it
in almost every documentary and it was quite a moment
because Scott Peterson then called the police.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
And it's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I mean, for people who know this case really well,
whenever you see Scott Peterson in a blue sweatshirt and
khaki shorts and he looks irritated, they use that clip
and a lot of different documentaries for a lot of
different reasons. But all you have to do is know
that it was John and Ken at the end of
the driveway was Ray Lopez. That was Brusilo Lopez that
was trying to get him to come out and tell
(14:37):
them something that he of.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Course only called the police to complain about.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
That but really interesting, and of course many people ask me,
do you think he's going to get another child? Do
you think it's going to happen. Anything is possible. It
would be really interesting, but you would just take to see,
you know, the family of Lacy Peterson have to go
through it again.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
But we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's how I felt.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But I didn't need a bullhorn when I was watching
that Peacock documentary. I'm tired of your lies.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Well, and both of the docuseries are I think both
of them are really well done, and it just gives you.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
When you watch both of them, you go, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Remember, you know, it's just like all the different things.
It's not just and everybody always brings up the parison
the Eiffel Tower, the phone call he made from the vigil,
which was of course so damning and so awful, But
there were other things that you need to It's like
this big lasagna, these big layers of items that happened
and things that he said. But as some other reporters
(15:38):
in these docusries say, if you take each and every
one of these, I'm playing devil as advocate here. But
when you take each and every one of those items,
it doesn't necessarily it's all circumstantial. Most of it is circumstantial.
The hair empires that we was trying to bloat, that
is Lacy's is probably.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
The biggest one. Of course, that's the only physical piece
of evidence.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But when you layer all the other things together, it
paints a really damning picture. And that's what Bueller has
always said, that these were all puzzle pieces.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
They all didn't make sense at first, but once.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
They started laying it out and putting it together, it
all ended with the Scott Peterson Eagles guilty and he's.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Where he needs to be, says Bueller.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So what's going on with the Happy Face Killer and
the mail he's been sending you?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
So yeah, so this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So I've been covering the Long Island serial which.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
In New York, and that's Rex Pureman. He's a suspect.
He's been arrested. He had a.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Kind of a communication back and forth with the Happy
Face Killer. Keith Jefferson, a serial killer convicted in Oregon
who is serving multiple life sentences for killing eight women.
He says he's killed more and he reached out to
Keith Jefferson.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
At the beginning of the year.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's kind of a long story, but Keith Jefferson's daughter
had reached out to Rex Hurman's family to say, hey,
I know what you're going through. Rex Human reached out
to Keith saying, hey, I appreciate your family member reaching
out to mine.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Had one letter exchange.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It became public and I was like, whoa to a
serial killer? Is talking to a suspected serial killer? Then
I reached out to Keith Jefferson and he has started
writing me back a lot of letters. I get a
lot of these double sided, a lot of it, talking
about his life in prison, what outside of prison?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Why? Sometimes you know, he talks about some of the victims,
but doesn't tell me a lot about him. But then
recently he sent.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Me these eleven x fourteen very colorful, vibrant rainbow color
the bells, And when I pulled them out of the envelope,
I had no idea what to expect. And I don't
really know why he made them for me, but I
know that he's an artist.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
He doesn't make art for certain people.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
He does send his art around, and he decided that
he wanted to make me these mixtures. And we're going
to talk about it on Danfield tomorrow. We haven't revealed them,
we haven't shown them yet, but we're going to show
them on News Nation tomorrow at ten Central, ten Eastern
with Ashley Badfield.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk
about some of the developments in the case.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Case actually in your jurisdiction, your neck of the Woods,
Riverside County, there's a victim that has still not been
identified that the Riverside County District Attorney's Office is working
to connect him to this victim that he has been
charged for they just don't know who she is. It's
a really odd twist that involves Riverside County again.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Tomorrow night on Banfield to be seven o'clock Pacific, ten
o'clock Eastern.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
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Speaker 3 (18:39):
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Speaker 6 (18:41):
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Speaker 4 (18:43):
And I couldn't believe my eyes when I looked up
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Speaker 6 (18:47):
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Speaker 4 (18:49):
I was so happy to see you guys. You guys
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as well.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Great coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Thanks Laura. All right, talk soon, all right you guys.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
We're in the middle of true Crime Tuesday, and a
nineteen eighty four murder is being explored in a new
true crime special. It's called The Girl on the Milk Carton.
This is before the era of Amber alerts. If you're young,
this is back when we had to missing kids on
milk cartons in the eighties. Put their faces on there.
(19:21):
And the killer in this case, the killer of John L. Matthews,
turns out to be quite the man connected to the
case from.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Go very weird. His name was Steve Panky.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
And again, like you said, nineteen eighty four was when
Michelle disappeared John L.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Janelle disappeared Janelle Matthews.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
She was a seventh grader.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
She vanished five days before Christmas in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
She's twelve at the time.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
After a Christmas concert with classmates, she was taken home
by a friend and the friend's father. Mom was out
of town for Karen for Grandma. Dad was at the
sister's basketball game, and this friend's father dropped her off
at home December twentieth. They stayed and watched her walk
into the front door of the ranch style home, the
(20:15):
yard blanketed by snow. Because again it's right before Christmas,
that was the last that she had been seeing.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So it's this guy's ex wife that is talking about
what she remembers. Angela Hicks is her name. You also
hear from the local police who investigated this thing for
almost forty years. It wasn't until twenty nineteen that they
trapped this guy down. He also she played a role
(20:45):
in solving the case. The ex wife did well.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
One of the things that happened was after the they'd
heard about the disappearance. They were in Big Bear they're
here in California. They he wants to make a beeline
home for some reason.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, and well it was an impromptu trip to begin with,
to begin with, and then yeah, they left Big Bear
Lake abruptly when they learned of this little girl's disappearance.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
She says.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We were driving and Steve said, turn the radio on.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
She says it was unusual for us because he had
banned radio, TV and newspapers a year before.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
We didn't have any of that in our lives.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I assumed he wanted me to find some music to
listen to, some old fifties rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I tried to.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Find that, but he said no, No, he wanted me
to put on the news channels. That's when I heard
Joanelle Matthews was missing. That's what he wanted to hear.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yeah, and he kept showing this weird interest in this case,
and even his wife was like, why is this, Why
is this going on? He wasn't a suspect in the murder,
but somehow he wanted to be kept up on the
investigation and wanted to know everything about it.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Even in the early days of the case.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
He was the one who reached out to law enforcement,
but it took a very long time for him to
actually become a suspect in the case, which I don't get.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Ronald Reagan even took up the case as part of
his administration's attempt to find all the missing children of
the eighties, the more than one million children who disappeared
each year.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, she's credited with being the first picture that showed
up on milk cartons if you remember that from the eighties.
This guy, this Steve Panky guy. Eventually he had brushes
with the law. He had fights with people. At one point,
they said that he had kept up to date on
the case even as he was moving to several different states.
(22:39):
He in nineteen ninety nine told the Idaho Supreme Court
after he caused a scene at a bank, that his
conviction had been an attempt to force him to become
an informant in Janelle Matthews's disappearance. And he told police
they were persecuting him because he wouldn't tell them what
they wanted to know about Janelle Matthews.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
He did the type. Did they just think he was crazy?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I guess He told his wife at one point, Do
you really think I would hurt her when she looks
so much like you?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Okay, I would call the cops. Yeah, for that statement alone,
he did turn to politics.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
He ran as a gubernatorial candidate in twenty fourteen and
then again in twenty eighteen, and then he was labeled
as a person of interest that year. He claimed to
have information about what happened to the little girl and
started asking for immunity from prosecution.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
See, this is the kind of guy who wants to
get caught, wants to get caught.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
There was a phone call then that was placed to
one of the detectives. They learned that some of the
remains had been found and they actually had braces affixed
to the teeth still, which is what Janelle had when
she went missing. So they said they could still see
and make out the colors of the different pieces of
clothing and said, this is again one of the detectives.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I was trembling.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
All hands were on deck that at this point they
knew that he was the guy. They did a search
warrant at his comp and they figured that he was connected.
They had lived about three miles away from Janelle's home
when he was a youth pastor at a church.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
The Girl on the Milk Carton is available on Oxygen
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
If you want to check it out all right.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You
can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!