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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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here in just a couple of minutes when we start
swamp watch. A couple other stories that we are following today. Obviously,
the President and Vice President going to South Carolina North Carolina,
Georgia is a big deal. They are there to check
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on storm damage after Hurricane Helene. Tennessee state authorities are
investigating one particular factory that apparently didn't allow workers to
leave until the floodwaters reached their parking lot, and they
said eleven workers in that one factory were swept away
by flooding. The other story, specifically, is that we continue
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to see the forty five thousand dock workers from Maine
to Texas on strike. There is some pull now, some
call for President Biden to invoke the Taft Hartley Act,
the section two oh six of the Labor Management Relations
Act of nineteen forty seven. It would authorize a president
to seek a court order for an eighty day cooling
off period. But at this point President Biden has said
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Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's time for swamp watching. Swamp is horrible. The government
doesn't work. Come man, make this like a reality TV show.
Cor was a bad Noos always a pleasure to be
anywhere from Washington, d C. Hey, Joey after a town
hall too clearly built on a swamp and in so
many ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I have to watching Malwarkee boy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He said, drained the swamp. I said, Oh, that's so
he'll keep happen.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, it was kind of a LoveFest last night, this
debate between JD. Vance and Tim Walls. They were both
very complimentary of each other at times. The most contentious
exchanges actually came towards the end, when they were fighting
over whether Donald Trump's actions after the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
JD.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Vance didn't answer when he was asked if he thought
that Trump lost in twenty twenty. Tim Walls called it
aming non answer. In fact, I'll play that for you
because I thought it was. It was the worst moment
for JD.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Vans.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Did he lose the twenty twenty election, Tim, I'm focused
on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking
their mind in the wake of the twenty twenty COVID situation?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
That is a damning non answer.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And then the moment that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Tim Walls probably regrets was whether or not he could
explain why He said he was in Hong Kong at
the time of the Tian and Men Square protest.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Can you explain the nonrectancy. All I said on this
was is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.
So I will just that's what I've said.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
So I was in.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest. Okay, just
say you screwed up. I screwed up. I didn't mean to.
It was informative.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It was much more of a policy driven debate than
we saw between Trump and Harris a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was cordial.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They both said multiple times, I agree with you, Tim,
I agree with you, Senator Vance. It was introductory and
that a lot of people didn't know who these guys were.
I'm not necessarily sure that they showed us their true selves,
but they at least gave us an impression that we
could use going forward. It wasn't full of personal attacks
back and forth. It wasn't a bunch of name calling.
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But it also wasn't necessarily a big win for either side.
Tim Walls showed that he's been studying these policies, these
federal policies. He's trying to figure out how he's going
to pitch Biden Harris policies going forward. But the big
deal was that Vance. All Vance had to say was listen.
Day one for Kamala Harris was fourteen hundred days ago.
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She's been in the administration and she owns basically what
this administration has done. So I was asking earlier, basically,
what your impression of the debate was.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Hey, Gary, it's Chris A Boxnar. I got to agree.
I went into the debate thinking that Vance was kind
of like a smug, arrogant, relatable guy, and then after
watching his performance, I was like, geez, that guy's kind
of a cool dude. He seems like a cool guy.
And I don't know, I actually was thinking presidential material.
(05:13):
We'll see. I guess what are your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm not sure age wise, I'd like to see JD.
Vance get a little bit more experience. He's only been
a senator for you know, eighteen months. I guess it
is I'd like to see him get more experience. But
he definitely showed progress.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I think, Gary, yes.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
After watching the debate last night, I think I kept thinking, man,
I wish this was a Nikki Hayley and jd Vance ticket.
That would be cool Nikki Haley being the president and
jd Vance being vice president.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I would like that, but you know, not up to me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, well, it kind of is up to you eventually,
but maybe in the future.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
It is freighter from San Diego. My take on that
debate last night was, you know, it's nice to see
two men debate and have discourse without throwing jabs at
each other and being irrational, like we've seen from our
other candidates. So bravo man, well done.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean the debate itself, it wasn't one person states
a position, the other person then has a chance to
rebut it was kind of like that. But we've gotten
away from that in terms of public discourse because we
do it as a television show. If this was just
two guys in a room arguing about differences, that's the debate.
I think that a lot of people would learn more
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from because you can't you can't ignore the fact that
it's a televised thing. Millions of people tune in to
try to figure out what this is, but that there's
still an entertainment factor that both candidates know they have
to perform.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
I would say I've always been pretty much impartial. I've
always been an independent, even though I I lean more
towards Republican in the last few years just because of
the border and the economy and all that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But I did not like JD.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Vance before this debate. I thought he came across arrogant
and just cocky, and and after was truly a way.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
To get to know them.
Speaker 9 (07:21):
I actually really liked him.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, that's actually a very common sentiment that JD.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Vance going into this people didn't know about him, or
they read what they you know, what has been published
about him, which has been generally negative, and that they
thought he came across pretty well.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Hi, Gary, this is from Sherman Oaks. I don't understand
how they can say Vance won and then in the
same breath that he lied a lot. I don't know
how a liar can win.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Thanks what he's referring to as one of the New
York Times columnists who said, it's very straightforward, Advance won
the debate. It's not hard to see why he has
spent most of his adult life selling him himself to
the wealthy, powerful, and influential. He is as smooth and
practiced as they come. He has no regard for the truth.
He lies as easily as he breathes. That was a
(08:12):
Jamel Bowie a Times columnists, a New York Times columnists.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
I thought the debate was much more insightful to the
one between Trump and Harris. Yes, I actually wish those
two were running for president.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know, when we made a point yesterday, Shannon asked
what the over under is on the word cats. Were
they going to get into the whole Springfield, Ohio people
eating cats and dogs thing? They didn't. They didn't say
it once. The Israeli Ambassador to the UN said this today.
Speaker 10 (08:40):
Israel will not stand by in the face of such
a vision. Israel will respond. Our response will be decisive,
and yes it will be painful.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So there will be retaliation for what Iran said was
retaliation for the Israeli attack on Hesbala headquarters.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Where does this end?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Senior national security contributor to News Nation, retired Air Force
Lieutenant General Richard Newton is joining us on the phone
with the latest.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
General. First of all, thanks for taking time for us today.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Gary, It's good to be with you. A tough topic,
but a lot of unpack here.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, let's begin with what's going on today. We know
that Israel says they're going to retaliate, but they often
have said it's at the time and manner of their choosing.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
What does that mean.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
That's correct, Israel cannot let one hundred and eighty one
missiles as you reported, that were essentially launched by Iran yesterday,
on top of over three hundred missiles that were launched
back on April thirteenth earlier this year. That is both
of those are significant acts of war. And so it's
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a point where I believe Prime Minister Naan Yahoo and
Israel have to respond back. In April, their response was
very limited. They demonstrated to Iran and frankly the rest
of the world that they could strike any target in Iran.
They chose to do so against the anti air defense
facility in the southern part of the country near nuclear
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weapon site, with real relatively no damage. But I think
what you're going to see now next steps are going
to be much more comprehensive. You're going to see much
more bold and there is an array of targets that
they would go after. But nonetheless, I believe it's going
to be you're going to see Israel attack Iran with impunity.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Would you say that the supreme leader of Iran is
one of those targets that Israel would go after.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, I've been using three words in the last twenty
four to forty hours. We don't know, but I say
that I can give you my best military advice. I think,
first off, if you look at what Israel's done certain
premission and Israel has done, it's really quite remarkable. In
the last couple of thirty one July, they took out
the Hamas leader in Tehran of all places. A couple
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of days so ago, they took out the headbald leader
in Southern Bay Route with the two thousand pounds bunker bobster,
bumb and so forth. I think the third opportunity for
them to take out another leader will probably be Sinwar,
who's in a tunnel someplace, hiding like a rat down
in Gaza. The leader of Hamas, whether or not he
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decides to go after the Iatola the leader of Iran
will is to be determined. But if I'm that leader
specifically in Tehran, I would be in a bunker also
surrounded by the best security I could find. I have
to think. But back to your point, I believe what
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from mister Ninahu in Israel be going after will probably
be the nuclear weapons development capability. They'll go after the
Iranian revolution and Guard Corps, which is their foot soldiers.
They'll go after I believe some of their oil infrastructure
that really through funding and selling of this oil took
place like China and Russia. This is how they fund
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their proxies and their terrorist organizations. They could go after
part of the Irani navy, which has been quite a
menace up on the Persian Gulf and so forth. But
there is a long laundry list of targets. But you're
going to see this unfold soon, I believe it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, can you give us a snapshot of the defense
capabilities that Iran has. I actually saw a post this
morning on social media about them flying F fourteens and
F fours as as part of their defense. We haven't
flown F fours for thirty years in the United States.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Nor F fourteens either, and those were under the Shaga
Rans when we had a very strong relationship. I my dad,
when he was at US Central Command back of knowed
seventies was part of his portfolio to arm back in Iran.
But you're right, it's us very dated capabilities. I would
say Iran has a small military capability where they really
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try to extend their national security aims, uh, their terrorist
aims and suit these proxies. They they they arm, they equip, UH,
they train, they mobilize extensive proxy terrorist organizations. They are
the largest exporter of terrorism in the world. Hezlo, by
the way, is the most capable of these paramilitary terrorist organizations.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
UH.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
And they're in that fight right now with Israel. But
I would not anticipate a very strong military response from
a conventional standpoint, as you alluded to in F fours
and F four teams. But nonetheless, there there's still a threat. Uh,
there's there's still uh. They still have some adequate capabilities. UH.
And you never take that for granted at all, certainly
when you're going after targets and you've got your own
(13:48):
uh men and women in harms ways, as Israel does.
So again, I think you'll see that their choosing. Let
me go back to another point for some context briefly. Uh.
Israel's main focus right now, however, it's Hesblo. They are
in a ground incursion gary up on the northern border
between Israel and Lebanon, where HESWA has been in control
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for several years, and so they've started notice that they
use invasions. I don't call it a ground evasion. It's
more of an incursion because they've limited aims here to
clear that land between the northern the border between Israel
and Lebanon, about twenty miles north of that border up
to the tiny river pretty un Resolution seventeen oh one
back in two thousand and six. Because if they they
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can force hesbeloods foot soldiers, they're very strong military by
the way, north of that river, then that will give
some breathing rooms, some space to allow for seventy eighty
thousand Israeli citizens to finally return home up in northern
Israel because they've been bombed with missiles and artillery of
border and rockets and so forth since October eighth. So
(14:51):
that's their main objective right now. But nonetheless, Israel, the
enemy gets a vote here, Garry, and the vote that
Israel received was Iran putting together a very forceful attack
of one hundred and eighty missiles, and as you eluded,
their iron dome and their missile defenses in which they develop,
but also in cooperation and supported by the United States,
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defeated a second active war missile attack.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
A lot going on. We'll have to check in again again.
Air Force retire Lieutenant General Richard Newton, thanks for your
time again today. Great to be with you, Thank you,
thank you. A quick update some stories that we're following.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
President Biden is going to get an aerial tour of
damage from Hurricane Helen today in North and South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Vice President Harris is in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They say that cadaverdogs and search crews continue to work
through this mud and the debris and the mountains, especially
in the western part of North Carolina, looking for more victims.
Just saw that one county, Henderson County, North Carolina. They
have said that there are four more deaths that they
announced this morning. So well over one hundred and sixty
is the death tolls. So Also a story that we're
(15:59):
following is that with the wild Card the wild Card
Playoffs continuing game twos today in all four of those series,
Fernando Velezuela's in the hospital. We know that he didn't
do play by play for the Spanish language Dodgers broadcast
last week, but they didn't say why. And now they're
saying he's in the hospital, but they're also not saying why,
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so hope he's doing okay. Padres, Mets, Royals, and Tigers
all won yesterday. The first of today's four games is
underway right now, Detroit at Houston, and the rest will
play later today.
Speaker 11 (16:32):
Is this your favorite time of year because you're such
a hardcore baseball like playoff football?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
January is my favorite month of the year. I like
it when it matters.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a fan of baseball, and it
means different things. In the midst of in the middle
of August, for example, baseball is just comforting.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's just it's relaxing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's you know, you could watch a Pirates raise game
or something where it doesn't matter, but it's relaxing. In
October it means something. And last night, I should say
the Monday games, the doubleheader between the Braves and the
Mets end of the regular season. They both had playoff
you know, potential, and they could have eliminated either the
other team. When those games matter, it's fun to watch
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when the and the teams know it. Man, it's fun
to watch.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Is it like does it kick?
Speaker 11 (17:20):
Like I learned I recently became a basketball fan within
the last three years, and I feel like I see
a dramatic difference in the playoffs, like and just what
people are doing.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Is it the same in baseball? I guess it could
be my fandom is a result of having played it.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So I know what the butterflies feel like. I mean,
I'm talking like I did.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Stopped playing competitively in high school, but I know what
those butterflies are like when the game is on the line,
or your team is up by one and you need
to buckle down defensively. I know what that feels like
on that level, on that small level. So what does
it feel like when you've got sixty five thousand people
around you cheering you on or cheering against you? I mean,
(18:06):
that's just that's the I mean, And that's part of
the I never got into basketball was I never played
it competitively, not on a team.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I play, you know, the front yard with friends and stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But I was never good enough at it, so I
didn't understand the importance of you know, so much fun
to watch though.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Justin Worsham join us. He is the host of the Dad.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Children, and you have a couple of kids I do,
and there are I don't even know where to start,
except this debate across social media platforms over Shannon Nelson.
Cannon's are always getting us in trouble. She's sixty eight.
She believes that. She said that sometimes packing our kids
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these very elaborate lunches or or having extensive after schools
schedules is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, she goes after millennial parents. She talked.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
She if you want to follow her, if you're on
the tiktalks, you can find her. Boomer in a Bubble
is her name, but her handle is at Pinky Nell.
Nell spelt n is in Nancy E l They this
article kind of lumped everything in the first thing she
the latest video that she posted that was mentioned in
the article is she she held up a sheet that
had very extensive instructions that she got from her child
(19:23):
about taking care of her grandchildren over two and a half.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Days and do you have audios at where you're looking
at it? Okay?
Speaker 11 (19:31):
So anyway, she was, and I've come across this a lot.
I've even experienced this. There was a point of contention
between when my mom would come and help watch my
sons when they were babies, and my wife's mom my
wife's mom like joking. We used to store breast milk
in the freezer because whenever my wife was at work
so that we could feed one of the boys. And
my mother in law blew through months worth of supply
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in a couple days of helping watch the kids. And
my mom was, weirdly enough, obviously had spent an entire
lifetime taking care of children, much more than my mother
in law. And I don't know if it's because of
that or just who she is as a person, but
when she came home, she was like, Okay, so what's
the routine, what are their signals?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
What do I need to know?
Speaker 11 (20:10):
And so we did give her instructions, but it's not
the same it But even my sibling and I think
the reason why I have this perspective of like, you
can't trust your parents to do right by your children
is because I have older siblings who would take their
kids to visit with my grandparents, and I would hear
them complain, like there's a fun story about my sister
bringing her kids to my parents and they stayed a
week and she asked them, She's like, well, did you
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guys take a bath or anything, and the kids are like,
oh yeah, and then she opened up their suitcase and goes, then,
why is this exactly the way I left it when
I dropped you off? And so my dad would jokingly
make sure the first day any of the kids got there,
go okay, tussle all the clothes in your suitcase, dump
it out, so then it goes back and then there's
like I've my in laws have had like oh, we
don't give them chocolate.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It just seems like such a weird thing to me.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
The whole point of grandparents is that things are supposed
to be different, and there's lots of benefits. I've even
I didn't think of bringing it in, but there's tons
of research that shows having a relationships with grandparents as
kids where there's just less rules and less structure, is really.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Good for kid.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
We're talking about justin Warsham about parenting and specifically about
a grandmother, this boomer grandma that posted this TikTok video
and just basically said, hey, I'm not new to this,
let's cut back on the old five five page instruction
manual for how grandma takes care of the kids.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
There's a couple comments that she got that I thought
were interesting, This one obviously from a millennial. She says
Boomer masterclass and passive aggression as per usual.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
And then.
Speaker 11 (21:38):
Another one that I think was a boomer fan of hers, said, well,
you haven't noticed that they are the very first generation
to be qualified to be parents. I'm hoping I'd live
long enough to watch them get their backlash for this
current style of parenting.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
She herself has said. I think she said this on
She said this on the Today Show.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
She talked about the lunches, but also said that she
finds herself biting her tongue a lot and feels that
the next generation is growing up too soft, which I
honestly like. There's lots of benefits I'm sure to being soft,
Like it makes you more emotionally available, vulnerable. Right again,
I have yet to see beyond tolerance, right, beyond social tolerance.
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I've yet to see grand civilization advances in this softness
because it comes with a lot of downside of a
lot of people who are struggling with anxiety, depression and
other issues just are easily overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But I was gonna say, one of the benefits of
having my kids watched by my parents is they get
to see how different I am from my parents. And
I think there's such a there's because they don't understand, right,
I mean, they don't get it, and because I'll talk
(22:54):
about Listen, my parents were weird, and I love them
for their quirkiness.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
My wife would say quirk.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I would say weird, uh, and very endearing in a
lot of those quirky qualities that they had. But I
had to explain to my kids, like, listen, we never
threw food out like left go. You wouldn't open the
refrigerator and see leftovers that were there for too long
that didn't exist about. You'd scrape off the gray stuff
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and heat it back up and eat it like that.
That was the way I was raised. So it's weird
for me to a throw things away, b get rid.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Of perfectly good food. And they wouldn't like they didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
It didn't compute until they were old enough and conscious
of Grandma. Grandma put the turkey on the dryer for
three days, and I would say, I would just sit
there and I go, see, I told you, I have
told you over and over again.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
The dry.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Now my like a food dryer or the actual clothes dryer.
The clothes dryer. I'm surprised you have to ask.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
You guys, can't you can't see their's face already looked
at me like the clothes dryer.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Are you idiot? Where else is or what was Why
was it on a dryer?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
There's not a lot of room in their kitchen. Okay,
they would pre cook a turkey for Thanksgiving us and
the rest on the dryer, but probably on Tuesday and
then on Wednesday, and then they would put it on
the dryer and just cover it in foil and then
when Thursday rolls around, they just reheat it so they
don't have to cook it for six hours or whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So it's sat at room temperature for more than twenty
four hours.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Again, now, if everybody could see your flast, yes, I
now seen the point that you're thinking, Yeah, that's that
is quirky.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I will say that is great though I love every
bit of it.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And the other thing is there are other instances like
my wife would say that her parents have changed greatly
since since she was.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh, yes, that's hard to watch.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So so what we would be different if they were
in charge of watching our kids is because they you know,
on the ground playing with the kids and like you're
the greatest grandkids ever, and we're sitting there like, wait
are you?
Speaker 11 (25:00):
Where were you when I was a kid when my
dad and stepmom got married. My siblings are nine and
eleven years older than me, and so they obviously had kids.
When I was still a teenager and watching my father
be pointed at by a one and a half year
old nephew of mine and watching him dunk his butt
in a lake and laugh hysterically, I was literally I.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Was like, who the hell is this guy? Like what
is going on here?
Speaker 11 (25:21):
It like it hurt my brain and it made me
angry at the time because I was like, this is
the guy who called me dumb and retarded my entire childhood, Right,
what is he doing now? This is not the man
I love.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You do not get that guy. But it goes to what.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We have said many times is that being aware of
your shortcomings, are being conscious of your desire to be
a good parent is often times not the indicator that
you're a bad parent, right, It, in fact is the opposite.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That you're aware of it. You know that you have
some things that you should be doing. You're the one
who's okay.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
The resounding that seems to be coming about in my
head at least, and maybe it's self manifested. Is just
that everybody needs to just calm down. I had an
author I'm blanking on his name, but he wrote a
great book called Calm the f Down, where he would
talk to doctors and nurses about all these fears that
new parents have. And it just seems like if you're
giving your parents instructions on how to take care of
your kid, I really I don't know without knowing your parents,
(26:22):
maybe that's unfair. But like, at least for my parents,
like they were definitely different, Like my mom has a
and I think this is awesome for breakfast. One time,
they would just give cereal to my kid, like lucky charms,
and my younger son would just eat the marshmallows and
she's like, did you get enough to eat? And he's like, ah,
there wasn't a lot in this one. He left all
the cereals still in there. So my mom just goes, okay,
and she grabs a handful of those mini marshmallows you
(26:44):
put in hot cocoa and just throws them on his plate.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
She goes, well that work, he goes, that'll.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
Do and he just chowed out them And that's the fun, right, Like,
that's there is a lot that I think can be
gained from that, because that gives credibility to your parents,
and it makes it easier for your parents to impart
the good things that they imparted on you. It's not
all the bad things. And I think your kids will
pick up on the not so good things, at least
mine have. They know that where their grandparents are weak
in the parenting area, and but they but it's just
(27:09):
there's that element where you don't have to be responsible,
and it's there's a lot of freedom that I think
comes with it that's good for the kids.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And if I could, if I could foment, if I
could farm a positive relationship between my kids and their grandparents,
I absolutely would. I mean I wouldn't want them to
feel negative about I don't even like it. I mean again,
my parents were quirky, and I don't know if my
kids were entirely comfortable around them all the time because
of that. Yeah, I mean my parents would work. That
(27:38):
was what they did for fun. I mean they they
did yardwork and stuff for yeah. Yeah, and they would
ask the kids to help out here's how you hoe
a garden.
Speaker 11 (27:47):
Here's how you rake leave, and you pays. You probably
look at that and go, Grandma and grandpa are miserable.
But when you're thirty seven and now you're doing yard work,
you're like, oh, and when you're twenty seven and you
have friends who don't know how to rake leaves exactly
because they've.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I've ever done it.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Like I've literally watched high school kids who don't know
how to use a broom, like they have no clue
the muscle memories, like I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
They look like toddlers and they're seventeen and they were falling.
We're king of room, hurting themselves.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
She also goes into that I think is a great
point as she shows that the Bento box lunch This
was another thing she caught a lot of flak on
her TikTok, is that this modern trend of they have
the lunch boxes that the kids get have these little
compartments and they have like there's Thomas and broccoli and leftover.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Pizza and so you have a fruit of veg. My
wife has it.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
There's something crunchy, there's something sweet, there's something nutritious and
it's like eighteen options that you're giving these kids, and
the mom is making fun of it. And when when
grandma was making lunches while she was watching the kids,
she said it took her forty five minutes to make
lunches for three kids. And she's like, that's insane, and
she cuts to this is what my kids got. It
was a peanut butter jelly sandwich and an apple that
they threw in a paper sack. And in my experience,
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the preschool director that my kids went to, she told
me the story one time that she had parents. Obviously
in La Area, they're making like homemade from scratch, non
and putting, and they're not even like of Indian descent.
They're making like non and all these things. And all
those kids did was complain. But the kids who just
got cut up apples and a peanut butter jelly sandwich,
they didn't complain about anything, not even.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
In their food, just anything in general.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, the other thing is they know better than to
complain because if they complain, then okay, then you make lunch.
Well I'm not gonna make lunch. I don't know how
to make Okay, Well I'm not making lunch anymore. You
don't like it, right, I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
The My wife is still making lunches for my children
and they're sixteen and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I'm like, you are not helping them. They these are
life skills. Her in next week. Yeah, she'll make your lunch.
Oh you want to talk. I don't want to make
a lunch. You want to scare talk to you?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Absolutely, scare straight. I'm just gonna have a conversation, okay,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 11 (29:46):
But you're really gonna get after it, right, Like you're
gonna throw shoes up on a telephone wire or something
something to really send.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
A message, right, want me to fight your fight for you? No, no,
I'm not saying that, not on public. I'm just saying,
but when the microphone goes off, that's exactly. I'll have
a list.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
I'll just email you. No, not email you, I'll write
it then we'll burn it later. Smart, smart, thank you,
thank you. Justin warship you've been listening to The Gary
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Georgia is a big deal. They are there to check
(00:20):
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leave until the floodwaters reached their parking lot, and they
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to seek a court order for an eighty day cooling
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Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's time for swamp watching. Swamp is horrible. The government
doesn't work. Come man, make this like a reality TV show.
Cor was a bad Noos always a pleasure to be
anywhere from Washington, d C. Hey, Joey after a town
hall too clearly built on a swamp and in so
many ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I have to watching Malwarkee boy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He said, drained the swamp. I said, Oh, that's so
he'll keep happen.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, it was kind of a LoveFest last night, this
debate between JD. Vance and Tim Walls. They were both
very complimentary of each other at times. The most contentious
exchanges actually came towards the end, when they were fighting
over whether Donald Trump's actions after the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
JD.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Vance didn't answer when he was asked if he thought
that Trump lost in twenty twenty. Tim Walls called it
aming non answer. In fact, I'll play that for you
because I thought it was. It was the worst moment
for JD.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Vans.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Did he lose the twenty twenty election, Tim, I'm focused
on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking
their mind in the wake of the twenty twenty COVID situation?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
That is a damning non answer.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And then the moment that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Tim Walls probably regrets was whether or not he could
explain why He said he was in Hong Kong at
the time of the Tian and Men Square protest.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Can you explain the nonrectancy. All I said on this
was is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.
So I will just that's what I've said.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
So I was in.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest. Okay, just
say you screwed up. I screwed up. I didn't mean to.
It was informative.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It was much more of a policy driven debate than
we saw between Trump and Harris a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was cordial.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They both said multiple times, I agree with you, Tim,
I agree with you, Senator Vance. It was introductory and
that a lot of people didn't know who these guys were.
I'm not necessarily sure that they showed us their true selves,
but they at least gave us an impression that we
could use going forward. It wasn't full of personal attacks
back and forth. It wasn't a bunch of name calling.
(04:21):
But it also wasn't necessarily a big win for either side.
Tim Walls showed that he's been studying these policies, these
federal policies. He's trying to figure out how he's going
to pitch Biden Harris policies going forward. But the big
deal was that Vance. All Vance had to say was listen.
Day one for Kamala Harris was fourteen hundred days ago.
(04:43):
She's been in the administration and she owns basically what
this administration has done. So I was asking earlier, basically,
what your impression of the debate was.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Hey, Gary, it's Chris A Boxnar. I got to agree.
I went into the debate thinking that Vance was kind
of like a smug, arrogant, relatable guy, and then after
watching his performance, I was like, geez, that guy's kind
of a cool dude. He seems like a cool guy.
And I don't know, I actually was thinking presidential material.
(05:13):
We'll see. I guess what are your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm not sure age wise, I'd like to see JD.
Vance get a little bit more experience. He's only been
a senator for you know, eighteen months. I guess it
is I'd like to see him get more experience. But
he definitely showed progress.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I think, Gary, yes.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
After watching the debate last night, I think I kept thinking, man,
I wish this was a Nikki Hayley and jd Vance ticket.
That would be cool Nikki Haley being the president and
jd Vance being vice president.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I would like that, but you know, not up to me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, well, it kind of is up to you eventually,
but maybe in the future.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
It is freighter from San Diego. My take on that
debate last night was, you know, it's nice to see
two men debate and have discourse without throwing jabs at
each other and being irrational, like we've seen from our
other candidates. So bravo man, well done.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean the debate itself, it wasn't one person states
a position, the other person then has a chance to
rebut it was kind of like that. But we've gotten
away from that in terms of public discourse because we
do it as a television show. If this was just
two guys in a room arguing about differences, that's the debate.
I think that a lot of people would learn more
(06:41):
from because you can't you can't ignore the fact that
it's a televised thing. Millions of people tune in to
try to figure out what this is, but that there's
still an entertainment factor that both candidates know they have
to perform.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
I would say I've always been pretty much impartial. I've
always been an independent, even though I I lean more
towards Republican in the last few years just because of
the border and the economy and all that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But I did not like JD.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Vance before this debate. I thought he came across arrogant
and just cocky, and and after was truly a way.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
To get to know them.
Speaker 9 (07:21):
I actually really liked him.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, that's actually a very common sentiment that JD.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Vance going into this people didn't know about him, or
they read what they you know, what has been published
about him, which has been generally negative, and that they
thought he came across pretty well.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Hi, Gary, this is from Sherman Oaks. I don't understand
how they can say Vance won and then in the
same breath that he lied a lot. I don't know
how a liar can win.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Thanks what he's referring to as one of the New
York Times columnists who said, it's very straightforward, Advance won
the debate. It's not hard to see why he has
spent most of his adult life selling him himself to
the wealthy, powerful, and influential. He is as smooth and
practiced as they come. He has no regard for the truth.
He lies as easily as he breathes. That was a
(08:12):
Jamel Bowie a Times columnists, a New York Times columnists.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
I thought the debate was much more insightful to the
one between Trump and Harris. Yes, I actually wish those
two were running for president.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know, when we made a point yesterday, Shannon asked
what the over under is on the word cats. Were
they going to get into the whole Springfield, Ohio people
eating cats and dogs thing? They didn't. They didn't say
it once. The Israeli Ambassador to the UN said this today.
Speaker 10 (08:40):
Israel will not stand by in the face of such
a vision. Israel will respond. Our response will be decisive,
and yes it will be painful.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So there will be retaliation for what Iran said was
retaliation for the Israeli attack on Hesbala headquarters.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Where does this end?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Senior national security contributor to News Nation, retired Air Force
Lieutenant General Richard Newton is joining us on the phone
with the latest.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
General. First of all, thanks for taking time for us today.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Gary, It's good to be with you. A tough topic,
but a lot of unpack here.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, let's begin with what's going on today. We know
that Israel says they're going to retaliate, but they often
have said it's at the time and manner of their choosing.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
What does that mean.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
That's correct, Israel cannot let one hundred and eighty one
missiles as you reported, that were essentially launched by Iran yesterday,
on top of over three hundred missiles that were launched
back on April thirteenth earlier this year. That is both
of those are significant acts of war. And so it's
(09:54):
a point where I believe Prime Minister Naan Yahoo and
Israel have to respond back. In April, their response was
very limited. They demonstrated to Iran and frankly the rest
of the world that they could strike any target in Iran.
They chose to do so against the anti air defense
facility in the southern part of the country near nuclear
(10:15):
weapon site, with real relatively no damage. But I think
what you're going to see now next steps are going
to be much more comprehensive. You're going to see much
more bold and there is an array of targets that
they would go after. But nonetheless, I believe it's going
to be you're going to see Israel attack Iran with impunity.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Would you say that the supreme leader of Iran is
one of those targets that Israel would go after.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, I've been using three words in the last twenty
four to forty hours. We don't know, but I say
that I can give you my best military advice. I think,
first off, if you look at what Israel's done certain
premission and Israel has done, it's really quite remarkable. In
the last couple of thirty one July, they took out
the Hamas leader in Tehran of all places. A couple
(11:05):
of days so ago, they took out the headbald leader
in Southern Bay Route with the two thousand pounds bunker bobster,
bumb and so forth. I think the third opportunity for
them to take out another leader will probably be Sinwar,
who's in a tunnel someplace, hiding like a rat down
in Gaza. The leader of Hamas, whether or not he
(11:26):
decides to go after the Iatola the leader of Iran
will is to be determined. But if I'm that leader
specifically in Tehran, I would be in a bunker also
surrounded by the best security I could find. I have
to think. But back to your point, I believe what
(11:47):
from mister Ninahu in Israel be going after will probably
be the nuclear weapons development capability. They'll go after the
Iranian revolution and Guard Corps, which is their foot soldiers.
They'll go after I believe some of their oil infrastructure
that really through funding and selling of this oil took
place like China and Russia. This is how they fund
(12:08):
their proxies and their terrorist organizations. They could go after
part of the Irani navy, which has been quite a
menace up on the Persian Gulf and so forth. But
there is a long laundry list of targets. But you're
going to see this unfold soon, I believe it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, can you give us a snapshot of the defense
capabilities that Iran has. I actually saw a post this
morning on social media about them flying F fourteens and
F fours as as part of their defense. We haven't
flown F fours for thirty years in the United States.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Nor F fourteens either, and those were under the Shaga
Rans when we had a very strong relationship. I my dad,
when he was at US Central Command back of knowed
seventies was part of his portfolio to arm back in Iran.
But you're right, it's us very dated capabilities. I would
say Iran has a small military capability where they really
(13:03):
try to extend their national security aims, uh, their terrorist
aims and suit these proxies. They they they arm, they equip, UH,
they train, they mobilize extensive proxy terrorist organizations. They are
the largest exporter of terrorism in the world. Hezlo, by
the way, is the most capable of these paramilitary terrorist organizations.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
UH.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
And they're in that fight right now with Israel. But
I would not anticipate a very strong military response from
a conventional standpoint, as you alluded to in F fours
and F four teams. But nonetheless, there there's still a threat. Uh,
there's there's still uh. They still have some adequate capabilities. UH.
And you never take that for granted at all, certainly
when you're going after targets and you've got your own
(13:48):
uh men and women in harms ways, as Israel does.
So again, I think you'll see that their choosing. Let
me go back to another point for some context briefly. Uh.
Israel's main focus right now, however, it's Hesblo. They are
in a ground incursion gary up on the northern border
between Israel and Lebanon, where HESWA has been in control
(14:09):
for several years, and so they've started notice that they
use invasions. I don't call it a ground evasion. It's
more of an incursion because they've limited aims here to
clear that land between the northern the border between Israel
and Lebanon, about twenty miles north of that border up
to the tiny river pretty un Resolution seventeen oh one
back in two thousand and six. Because if they they
(14:30):
can force hesbeloods foot soldiers, they're very strong military by
the way, north of that river, then that will give
some breathing rooms, some space to allow for seventy eighty
thousand Israeli citizens to finally return home up in northern
Israel because they've been bombed with missiles and artillery of
border and rockets and so forth since October eighth. So
(14:51):
that's their main objective right now. But nonetheless, Israel, the
enemy gets a vote here, Garry, and the vote that
Israel received was Iran putting together a very forceful attack
of one hundred and eighty missiles, and as you eluded,
their iron dome and their missile defenses in which they develop,
but also in cooperation and supported by the United States,
(15:12):
defeated a second active war missile attack.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
A lot going on. We'll have to check in again again.
Air Force retire Lieutenant General Richard Newton, thanks for your
time again today. Great to be with you, Thank you,
thank you. A quick update some stories that we're following.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
President Biden is going to get an aerial tour of
damage from Hurricane Helen today in North and South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Vice President Harris is in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They say that cadaverdogs and search crews continue to work
through this mud and the debris and the mountains, especially
in the western part of North Carolina, looking for more victims.
Just saw that one county, Henderson County, North Carolina. They
have said that there are four more deaths that they
announced this morning. So well over one hundred and sixty
is the death tolls. So Also a story that we're
(15:59):
following is that with the wild Card the wild Card
Playoffs continuing game twos today in all four of those series,
Fernando Velezuela's in the hospital. We know that he didn't
do play by play for the Spanish language Dodgers broadcast
last week, but they didn't say why. And now they're
saying he's in the hospital, but they're also not saying why,
(16:21):
so hope he's doing okay. Padres, Mets, Royals, and Tigers
all won yesterday. The first of today's four games is
underway right now, Detroit at Houston, and the rest will
play later today.
Speaker 11 (16:32):
Is this your favorite time of year because you're such
a hardcore baseball like playoff football?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
January is my favorite month of the year. I like
it when it matters.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a fan of baseball, and it
means different things. In the midst of in the middle
of August, for example, baseball is just comforting.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's just it's relaxing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's you know, you could watch a Pirates raise game
or something where it doesn't matter, but it's relaxing. In
October it means something. And last night, I should say
the Monday games, the doubleheader between the Braves and the
Mets end of the regular season. They both had playoff
you know, potential, and they could have eliminated either the
other team. When those games matter, it's fun to watch
(17:15):
when the and the teams know it. Man, it's fun
to watch.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Is it like does it kick?
Speaker 11 (17:20):
Like I learned I recently became a basketball fan within
the last three years, and I feel like I see
a dramatic difference in the playoffs, like and just what
people are doing.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Is it the same in baseball? I guess it could
be my fandom is a result of having played it.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So I know what the butterflies feel like. I mean,
I'm talking like I did.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Stopped playing competitively in high school, but I know what
those butterflies are like when the game is on the line,
or your team is up by one and you need
to buckle down defensively. I know what that feels like
on that level, on that small level. So what does
it feel like when you've got sixty five thousand people
around you cheering you on or cheering against you? I mean,
(18:06):
that's just that's the I mean, And that's part of
the I never got into basketball was I never played
it competitively, not on a team.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I play, you know, the front yard with friends and stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But I was never good enough at it, so I
didn't understand the importance of you know, so much fun
to watch though.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Justin Worsham join us. He is the host of the Dad.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Children, and you have a couple of kids I do,
and there are I don't even know where to start,
except this debate across social media platforms over Shannon Nelson.
Cannon's are always getting us in trouble. She's sixty eight.
She believes that. She said that sometimes packing our kids
(18:50):
these very elaborate lunches or or having extensive after schools
schedules is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, she goes after millennial parents. She talked.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
She if you want to follow her, if you're on
the tiktalks, you can find her. Boomer in a Bubble
is her name, but her handle is at Pinky Nell.
Nell spelt n is in Nancy E l They this
article kind of lumped everything in the first thing she
the latest video that she posted that was mentioned in
the article is she she held up a sheet that
had very extensive instructions that she got from her child
(19:23):
about taking care of her grandchildren over two and a half.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Days and do you have audios at where you're looking
at it? Okay?
Speaker 11 (19:31):
So anyway, she was, and I've come across this a lot.
I've even experienced this. There was a point of contention
between when my mom would come and help watch my
sons when they were babies, and my wife's mom my
wife's mom like joking. We used to store breast milk
in the freezer because whenever my wife was at work
so that we could feed one of the boys. And
my mother in law blew through months worth of supply
(19:55):
in a couple days of helping watch the kids. And
my mom was, weirdly enough, obviously had spent an entire
lifetime taking care of children, much more than my mother
in law. And I don't know if it's because of
that or just who she is as a person, but
when she came home, she was like, Okay, so what's
the routine, what are their signals?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
What do I need to know?
Speaker 11 (20:10):
And so we did give her instructions, but it's not
the same it But even my sibling and I think
the reason why I have this perspective of like, you
can't trust your parents to do right by your children
is because I have older siblings who would take their
kids to visit with my grandparents, and I would hear
them complain, like there's a fun story about my sister
bringing her kids to my parents and they stayed a
week and she asked them, She's like, well, did you
(20:32):
guys take a bath or anything, and the kids are like,
oh yeah, and then she opened up their suitcase and goes, then,
why is this exactly the way I left it when
I dropped you off? And so my dad would jokingly
make sure the first day any of the kids got there,
go okay, tussle all the clothes in your suitcase, dump
it out, so then it goes back and then there's
like I've my in laws have had like oh, we
don't give them chocolate.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It just seems like such a weird thing to me.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
The whole point of grandparents is that things are supposed
to be different, and there's lots of benefits. I've even
I didn't think of bringing it in, but there's tons
of research that shows having a relationships with grandparents as
kids where there's just less rules and less structure, is really.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Good for kid.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
We're talking about justin Warsham about parenting and specifically about
a grandmother, this boomer grandma that posted this TikTok video
and just basically said, hey, I'm not new to this,
let's cut back on the old five five page instruction
manual for how grandma takes care of the kids.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
There's a couple comments that she got that I thought
were interesting, This one obviously from a millennial. She says
Boomer masterclass and passive aggression as per usual.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
And then.
Speaker 11 (21:38):
Another one that I think was a boomer fan of hers, said, well,
you haven't noticed that they are the very first generation
to be qualified to be parents. I'm hoping I'd live
long enough to watch them get their backlash for this
current style of parenting.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
She herself has said. I think she said this on
She said this on the Today Show.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
She talked about the lunches, but also said that she
finds herself biting her tongue a lot and feels that
the next generation is growing up too soft, which I
honestly like. There's lots of benefits I'm sure to being soft,
Like it makes you more emotionally available, vulnerable. Right again,
I have yet to see beyond tolerance, right, beyond social tolerance.
(22:17):
I've yet to see grand civilization advances in this softness
because it comes with a lot of downside of a
lot of people who are struggling with anxiety, depression and
other issues just are easily overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But I was gonna say, one of the benefits of
having my kids watched by my parents is they get
to see how different I am from my parents. And
I think there's such a there's because they don't understand, right,
I mean, they don't get it, and because I'll talk
(22:54):
about Listen, my parents were weird, and I love them
for their quirkiness.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
My wife would say quirk.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I would say weird, uh, and very endearing in a
lot of those quirky qualities that they had. But I
had to explain to my kids, like, listen, we never
threw food out like left go. You wouldn't open the
refrigerator and see leftovers that were there for too long
that didn't exist about. You'd scrape off the gray stuff
(23:20):
and heat it back up and eat it like that.
That was the way I was raised. So it's weird
for me to a throw things away, b get rid.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Of perfectly good food. And they wouldn't like they didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
It didn't compute until they were old enough and conscious
of Grandma. Grandma put the turkey on the dryer for
three days, and I would say, I would just sit
there and I go, see, I told you, I have
told you over and over again.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
The dry.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Now my like a food dryer or the actual clothes dryer.
The clothes dryer. I'm surprised you have to ask.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
You guys, can't you can't see their's face already looked
at me like the clothes dryer.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Are you idiot? Where else is or what was Why
was it on a dryer?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
There's not a lot of room in their kitchen. Okay,
they would pre cook a turkey for Thanksgiving us and
the rest on the dryer, but probably on Tuesday and
then on Wednesday, and then they would put it on
the dryer and just cover it in foil and then
when Thursday rolls around, they just reheat it so they
don't have to cook it for six hours or whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So it's sat at room temperature for more than twenty
four hours.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Again, now, if everybody could see your flast, yes, I
now seen the point that you're thinking, Yeah, that's that
is quirky.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I will say that is great though I love every
bit of it.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And the other thing is there are other instances like
my wife would say that her parents have changed greatly
since since she was.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh, yes, that's hard to watch.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So so what we would be different if they were
in charge of watching our kids is because they you know,
on the ground playing with the kids and like you're
the greatest grandkids ever, and we're sitting there like, wait
are you?
Speaker 11 (25:00):
Where were you when I was a kid when my
dad and stepmom got married. My siblings are nine and
eleven years older than me, and so they obviously had kids.
When I was still a teenager and watching my father
be pointed at by a one and a half year
old nephew of mine and watching him dunk his butt
in a lake and laugh hysterically, I was literally I.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Was like, who the hell is this guy? Like what
is going on here?
Speaker 11 (25:21):
It like it hurt my brain and it made me
angry at the time because I was like, this is
the guy who called me dumb and retarded my entire childhood, Right,
what is he doing now? This is not the man
I love.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You do not get that guy. But it goes to what.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We have said many times is that being aware of
your shortcomings, are being conscious of your desire to be
a good parent is often times not the indicator that
you're a bad parent, right, It, in fact is the opposite.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That you're aware of it. You know that you have
some things that you should be doing. You're the one
who's okay.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
The resounding that seems to be coming about in my
head at least, and maybe it's self manifested. Is just
that everybody needs to just calm down. I had an
author I'm blanking on his name, but he wrote a
great book called Calm the f Down, where he would
talk to doctors and nurses about all these fears that
new parents have. And it just seems like if you're
giving your parents instructions on how to take care of
your kid, I really I don't know without knowing your parents,
(26:22):
maybe that's unfair. But like, at least for my parents,
like they were definitely different, Like my mom has a
and I think this is awesome for breakfast. One time,
they would just give cereal to my kid, like lucky charms,
and my younger son would just eat the marshmallows and
she's like, did you get enough to eat? And he's like, ah,
there wasn't a lot in this one. He left all
the cereals still in there. So my mom just goes, okay,
and she grabs a handful of those mini marshmallows you
(26:44):
put in hot cocoa and just throws them on his plate.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
She goes, well that work, he goes, that'll.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
Do and he just chowed out them And that's the fun, right, Like,
that's there is a lot that I think can be
gained from that, because that gives credibility to your parents,
and it makes it easier for your parents to impart
the good things that they imparted on you. It's not
all the bad things. And I think your kids will
pick up on the not so good things, at least
mine have. They know that where their grandparents are weak
in the parenting area, and but they but it's just
(27:09):
there's that element where you don't have to be responsible,
and it's there's a lot of freedom that I think
comes with it that's good for the kids.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And if I could, if I could foment, if I
could farm a positive relationship between my kids and their grandparents,
I absolutely would. I mean I wouldn't want them to
feel negative about I don't even like it. I mean again,
my parents were quirky, and I don't know if my
kids were entirely comfortable around them all the time because
of that. Yeah, I mean my parents would work. That
(27:38):
was what they did for fun. I mean they they
did yardwork and stuff for yeah. Yeah, and they would
ask the kids to help out here's how you hoe
a garden.
Speaker 11 (27:47):
Here's how you rake leave, and you pays. You probably
look at that and go, Grandma and grandpa are miserable.
But when you're thirty seven and now you're doing yard work,
you're like, oh, and when you're twenty seven and you
have friends who don't know how to rake leaves exactly
because they've.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I've ever done it.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Like I've literally watched high school kids who don't know
how to use a broom, like they have no clue
the muscle memories, like I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
They look like toddlers and they're seventeen and they were falling.
We're king of room, hurting themselves.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
She also goes into that I think is a great
point as she shows that the Bento box lunch This
was another thing she caught a lot of flak on
her TikTok, is that this modern trend of they have
the lunch boxes that the kids get have these little
compartments and they have like there's Thomas and broccoli and leftover.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Pizza and so you have a fruit of veg. My
wife has it.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
There's something crunchy, there's something sweet, there's something nutritious and
it's like eighteen options that you're giving these kids, and
the mom is making fun of it. And when when
grandma was making lunches while she was watching the kids,
she said it took her forty five minutes to make
lunches for three kids. And she's like, that's insane, and
she cuts to this is what my kids got. It
was a peanut butter jelly sandwich and an apple that
they threw in a paper sack. And in my experience,
(28:53):
the preschool director that my kids went to, she told
me the story one time that she had parents. Obviously
in La Area, they're making like homemade from scratch, non
and putting, and they're not even like of Indian descent.
They're making like non and all these things. And all
those kids did was complain. But the kids who just
got cut up apples and a peanut butter jelly sandwich,
they didn't complain about anything, not even.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
In their food, just anything in general.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, the other thing is they know better than to
complain because if they complain, then okay, then you make lunch.
Well I'm not gonna make lunch. I don't know how
to make Okay, Well I'm not making lunch anymore. You
don't like it, right, I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
The My wife is still making lunches for my children
and they're sixteen and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I'm like, you are not helping them. They these are
life skills. Her in next week. Yeah, she'll make your lunch.
Oh you want to talk. I don't want to make
a lunch. You want to scare talk to you?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Absolutely, scare straight. I'm just gonna have a conversation, okay,
whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 11 (29:46):
But you're really gonna get after it, right, Like you're
gonna throw shoes up on a telephone wire or something
something to really send.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
A message, right, want me to fight your fight for you? No, no,
I'm not saying that, not on public. I'm just saying,
but when the microphone goes off, that's exactly. I'll have
a list.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
I'll just email you. No, not email you, I'll write
it then we'll burn it later. Smart, smart, thank you,
thank you. Justin warship you've been listening to The Gary
and Shannon Show.
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