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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Have you with you?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Katla Fox eleven et cetera ran for Senate that little
thing you're pregnant? What were you thinking?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I don't know, birthd like two weeks after the election.
Now she timed it well, well if.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Could you imagine did you ever think about going in
a little early and inducing just for the you think
you would have gotten a.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Bump, the dramatic effect.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, like, well I watching a legend on debate stage
and my water would break.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That would have been and you know, that's a movie.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Maybe maybe next time.
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
I am so excited you have Christina on because when
you guys were talking about Adam Shift and the baseball
legend debate, she should have been on that stage.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
She was the voice of us younger folks and as
normal folks.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh, I love her.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Thanks for saying that. You know, I agree, that's a
whole other story. That's a whole other radio show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Did you watch did you watch this recent debate to Yeah,
you just get frustrated.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's what I thought of all along.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There is.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
There are a few reasons I decided to throw my
hat in the ring. And even though it was you know,
I was the last one to join the race, I
knew it was a heavy lift, and I know he
was going against one of the most entrenched political people
in the country, Adam Schiff, And.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, I thought, you're talking about Katie Porter, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I mean, I think the reason I even wanted to
try or go for it is because I was interviewing
him and I just felt like the answer I was
getting was so disingenuous, and so that was one of
three reasons I decided to run.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
But watch this debate.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, ten million dollars was spent on ads to
elevate Steve Garvey so that he would be in the
final two. Because Adam Schiff knew that if Steve Garvey
was in the final two, he would have mathematically zero
shot of winning in this state as a Republican. Now,
I do think people are leaning more and more red.
We're seeing more people register as Republican. There's been a
shift towards the right as we've had all these issues
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we've been dealing with as a state, rent immigration and crime. However,
the numbers just aren't there still, And I don't think
Garvey has the chop like he doesn't really when you
see him debate, you're not particularly inspired.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I wasn't inspired by him. I felt like that his
heart's in the right place. But we need more than
that for somebody to be a candidate, especially to beat somebody,
like you said, politically entrenched the way Adam Schiff is
with the support of the National Party, the way he has, right,
you gotta have somebody who's going to be sharp as attacked,
sharper than attacked.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And unfortunately he doesn't know much policy.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I know in a previous debate they said, can you
name one regulation you would change if you were elected
to the US Senate And he couldn't name it. And
you know, I was screaming at the television sequa, it's sequa,
you know, just you know it's a he doesn't really know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So you've turned it into my grandmother and started yelling
at the time.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's where I'm at in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, but I must say he was very spicy in
this recent debate. He had one quote where Schiff was
talking about Diane Feinstein and Garvey goes, well, you're no
Dianne Feinstein.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So he said yes. Now, that moment actually was kind
of funny because I felt like it was a to
use a baseball analogy, it was a foul ball, like
Adam Schiff tied that thing up, and Steve Garvey knew
that that like he could see it coming right, but
he couldn't quite put the ball in play. And then
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he said, you're no Dianne Feinstein. And then Adam Schiff
was like, oh, he left it on the field. Maybe
I can pick it up. And he said, well, I
knew Diane Feinstein. I was friends with Diane Feinstein. But
then he couldn't land the punchline either, because it didn't
work that way.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He said something like, you know, I remember when California
used to be the heartbeat of America and now it's
just a murmur. And his delivery was actually kind of funny, but.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He practiced that. He did quite a bit.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Hey guys, good morning. I just started listening a little
late this morning, so I'm taking a shot in the
dark here, but I want but the say congratulations on
I shouldn't get in Christina's Pascucci to fill in with
U with Gary today for Shannon. I love Shannon, but
a big fan of Scooch. Well done, and I look
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forward to hearing the rest of the show to hear
the thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That is so nice. We got two nice calls. Thanks
for not playing the wines. I said, why what is
it going on?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, back to Hurricane Milton and what's left of the
clean up there in Hurricane in Florida. I should say,
this storm itself is now out in the Atlantic making
its way farther away from us, thankfully, but Saint Petersburg
was one of those areas that was inundated overnight and
joining us now to talk about it. Family friends, Shelley
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and George Rosenberger, my.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Best friend's in laws who are in Saint Pete. So
good to have you guys on the show with us.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Thank you in the midst of you know, I know
you've been kind of monitoring the damage, and Shelley, when
we spoke last night and this morning, you said, You've
been in Florida your whole life, and you've never seen
a storm this bad.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
No, never, never. This is the first time that I've
ever been scared during a storm. True, I mean really
like really scared, really nervous. Every other time it's like, Okay,
well it's going to come and it'll go and nothing's
going to happen. But yeah, we were very anxious.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
We were in the cone on the north side of
the Eye and it was just relentless seven plus mile
an hour wind and gusts and constant rain for six
or seven hours. The backyard was flooded, but no damage
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to the house for fortunately.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
George had to empty the pool about seven or eight
times in the pouring young rain.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Not a wise move. And I won't do it that again.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, you gotta do it, you gotta do And you know,
for us southern California folk, who I consider sixty degrees
a weather event, I think it's important for people to know,
you know, when you're on that right front, it's particularly dangerous.
You have the risk of not only the winds, the
surge we've been talking about, the flooding, but tornadoes. I
had never realized how big of a part of a
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storm a hurricane tornadoes are. Was this more active than
what you had seen in the past in terms of
the tornadic activity.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Uh, we were fortunate here Toanellas County that I don't
recall seeing one tornado warning in Tanellas County, which is
Saint Pete Clearwater all the way up to tarp and Springs.
The tornado activity seemed to be east of us, in
areas like Hillsboro and Polk County, and there were many, yeah,
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many of them serious uh tornadoes, but I don't know
what the damage was.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
More than one hundred tornado warnings and I think twenty
twenty at least confirmed sightings of tornadoes, and unfortunately a
few people died as a result.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
What is what is the city or the county told
you in terms of if you need to reach out
for help, how, how how available is it to you?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
As far as we know, there was non stop uh
from that came over the local news news stations.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
The weathermen here were great.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
The information and the ticker that at the bottom of
the screen always told you where the shelters were, which
ones were open, when to leave, and UH just so
much information was coming at us that it was it
was really quite calming actually in the face of all
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of this.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Uh. And government in DeSantis he was amazing. I mean
he pre planned and preset all these emergency emergency vehicles
and he was he was amazing. He was great.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And they they were well prepared. And as you as
you know that we knew the hurricane was headed somewhere
near us for for days and days, and the sheriff
here in Panellas County, Bob well Thierry, Uh, he took
charge for the county and uh, I mean everything went
as smoothly as it could. The first responders stayed out
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on the street until the wind gusts got to where
it was dangerous and they were ordered to themselves seek shelter. Uh.
It really Yeah, a lot of time to plan and
really great response. The law enforcement and fire department rescue
people here in this county are wonderful.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's incredible to hear when government works as intended.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
You know, yeah, yeah, sure here, no problem. And you know,
we had so much devastation from Helene just just a
short while ago, uh, that people weren't allowed back on
the beach for days and restaurants and famous landmarks were crushed,
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and I mean we haven't even recovered from that. Uh,
and then this happens. But they allowed the people back
on the beaches actually today, as early as this morning,
so there was no delay for those people to go
back on the beach and get back busy again to
their homes.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's good, all right, Well, Shelley, George, we wish you
the best of luck. And it sounds like once you
get that pool cleaned out, George, then you can you
can just sit back and relax. Yeah, get a cocktail time.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I will tell you we have a wonderful lunai and
pool situation. And believe me, listeners, this is really paradise here.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Except for hur.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Little details, and you know, the Luni is still standing.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Good.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
It's just amazing. So hey, guys, thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'm glad you guys are safe. I was really worried.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Thank you again, Shelley and George Rosenberg there family friends
from from Saint Petersburg. It is funny there is so
George mentions it's paradise with the exception of hurricanes. Franklin
Graham said, the weather's been great this week. I mean,
he's in the Carolina, so it's different. But I wanted
to point out, well, there was a Category four hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, but anyway, Well it's crazy how I mean, Helene
just you know, ravaged the area and it's almost a
distant memory like Helen West.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Still three point four million people without power in the
state of Florida. Roofs of roofs, roofs have been what's
the plural of roof I think he got it. Roofs
ripped off from coast to coast. One of one of
those was the roof that's over trop againa Field Baseball
Stadium in Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
A lot of places, Sarasota, Fort Myers, all their Gulf
Coast communities under water, flooded by up to a six
foot storm surge. In some areas, they're talking about tornadoes
that touch down. One of them leveled the Saint Lucy
Sheriff's Department facility. The death toll the last I saw
was four. They're saying at least four because they still
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have some people that are unaccounted for that they're concerned
a fall. I guess. Follow up to Hurricane Helene a
couple of weeks ago, Remember it wasn't that long ago.
A North Carolina man lost eleven family members killed in
a landslide that was caused by that hurricane. This thirty
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five year old guy, his name is Jesse Craig. He
lost his parents, he lost aunts and uncles, a great aunt,
and several cousins died in an area of his town
that everybody known as everybody knows as Craig Town because
his family had been there for so long.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Imaginable.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, and I think that's an important reminder of just
how people are grappling with Hurricane Helene. Still we had
on in the first hour the president of Smaritan's Purse,
an organization that's doing incredible work there on the ground
to still aid in recovery efforts. Are still so many
people missing, and the news cycle moves on to Milton,
and so you kind of forget the tragedy of Helene.
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It is not even close to being over, and then
you hear stories like that one you just shared it,
and it breaks your heart. So it's important to support
the people who are on the ground, like Samaritan's Purse,
who were doing that good work.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Samaritanspurse dot Org. So you can do that, Lieutenant Dan.
Obviously we all remember Gary Sinice's character from from Forrest Gump, right,
missing both legs. This guy's not missing both legs, but Lieutenant.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Dan, he's missing one leg.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Is Joseph Malinowski, fifty four year old guy did not
want to leave. By the way, he survived. I mean,
spoiler alert, he's alive and he's fine. He made it
through the night. But this is a guy lives on
his sailboat, and he did not want to leave Tampa,
and it looked like he was gonna. I mean, it
looked pretty sketchy there for a while, him living on
a sailboat overnight, banging up against the dock that he
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was moored up to. And and he's fine. This is
just an idea of what they were dealing with yesterday.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
With you right now, I'm right now.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Don't get me wrong. If I start bouncing around and
I start hearing things crack and break, I'm getting the
hell out of here. I don't fear the storm, I
don't hear anything but the government, the police, the mayor,
everybody's trying to get me to leave in the worst way.
I wish they would leave me alone. If nobody saw
me on TikTok, I'd be out here by myself right
now doing the same thing I'm doing right now, just
sitting here. They don't do anything to help you. They
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just tell you that you have to leave, that it's
a blood zone or whatever, and that you have to evacuate. Well,
where am I supposed to go and how am I
supposed to get there? I don't have a car, I
don't have anywhere to go. And then you tell me
you're going to put me in a shelter. I'm not
going to a shelter. I've beenish shelters and I see
what goes on, and I'm doing my own thing. And
if I'm merging my life and so be, I'm again
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I'm in God's hands.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Mayor Jane cast There in Tampa had yesterday said in
her attempts early in the day to get everybody that's
going to if you're going to stick around, please go
to one of our shelters. That's probably the safest place
to be. She had said, Lieutenant even Lieutenant Dan is
going to be in a shelter. And he didn't go.
He did not go there. Was a reporter for Fox
thirteen out of Tampa who last night at about eleven o'clock,
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I mean, we're talking pretty close to the absolute worst
of the storm, had eyes on Lieutenant Dan in his
little sailboat banging up against the dock and said, he's
still in there. I guess he's going to ride this
thing out well.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
As I mean, let me tell you something. I'm in
this family group chat and from my Florida side of
the family, and Lieutenant Dan was the number one topic
that people repeatedly brought up, and my sister in law
who kept sharing TikTok videos because everyone, I mean, there
were people across the nation invested in the outcome and
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well being of Lieutenant Dan, whose real name is Joseph Melanowski,
and in fact, there's a GoFundMe that is reportedly raised
over one hundred thousand dollars for him. I mean, he's
been homeless for ten years, and so you know, people
wanted to rally to help him and do what they can,
and they call him a national hero.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The Internet is weird.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And I think it's this. I think it's that if
you say the entire state of Florida is under hurricane
watches and warnings, and seven million people have been told
to evacuate. That it's almost it's too big for us.
I mean, especially if we're out here and if someone
like me, I don't have anybody in Florida that I'm
particularly concentrating on, hoping that Aunt Susie gets you know,
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safe to a safe place. It's that you now have
an investment in you know, you see Lieutenant Dan, you
can you can give to his go fund me page,
like you care enough about that guy. That's why you're
going to pay attention to that, to that event, whatever
it is. Otherwise, it's just it's too much to fathom.
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You can't you can't imagine a twelve foot storm. I mean,
imagine twelve foot storm, Surgeon Burbank. We can't wrap our
heads around it because we've never had to live through it.
People in Florida they've heard. I mean, you heard George
earlier say, you know, this is what we're used to.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
This.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I mean, you know, we have to do this every
once in a while. This is paradise except for the hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Jim Laws laugh at me when I say, wait, what
you're staying while at hurricanes? I mean it's hard for
me to that than being a southern California girl.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
But other people also, I'm sure people, relatives, friends from
around the country are like, how could you live with
the possibility of an earthquake every day?
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And it's not for us in California, it's not that
big a deal. They're fun to some degree. Yeah, there's
a point where we'll stop being fun. I should, I assume.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But the thing is here, you have a huge earthquake
every decade, you know. There, you have hurricanes every season, right,
and so to me it seems different. And then I
went tornado chasing ones and that is scary. I can't
imagine being an hurricane and then having the chance at tornade.
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I mean, how do you even wrap your mind around
one hundred mile per hour wins Win Gus and then.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Around a tornado but you don't know which way it's
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, I mean our car actually got hit by a
little mini tornado when we were tornado chasing, and they
just they formed so suddenly, And.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
That seems was it loud? That seems loud. It was
just in the car when it hits the car.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
H I don't I just remember all of a sudden,
my car was facing east instead of.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
The direction I thought I was going this Joseph Malinowski character.
By the way, Lieutenant Dan, as much goodwill as he has,
does have a criminal record. I mean, who doesn't. I
don't tell what's about that. He spent six months behind
bars for allegedly punching a police officer when he was
arrested last year over allegations that he tried to set
a woman on fire with gasoline. Oh Gosh also reported
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that Lieutenant Dan has an October court date coming up
sometime soon in a dispute over whether the sailboat that
he was in is actually his sailboat.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh see, this is when well intended people and those
who have been part of one hundred thousand dollars donation
to him are actually doing more harm than good.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see whatever becomes of this,
you know, fifteen minutes of fame for Lieutenant Dan. We
will get more updates on what's going on with Hurricane
Milton and the aftermath of Hurricane Milton across Florida come
up a little bit later. In fact, ABC's Jim Ryan
we talked to him yesterday as he was preparing for
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Hurricane Milton. He lasted through the night. We believe we
will check in with him. He was stuck. Stuck, would
you say, stuck in his car.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
That's where he chose sheltering in play.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Sheltering in his car. That's a probably a better way
to put it. One of the Kennedy matriarchs has died.
Ethel Kennedy has died at the age of ninety six.
They made the announcement just before the show today. That's
rfk's widow. She suffered a stroke last week and then
passed away, they said today, surrounded by family in a
hospital in Massachusetts. The big deal out of the DC
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area today, Bureau of Labor Statistics came out and said
consumer prices were up two point four percent from a
year earlier, higher than expected, but still ticking down just
a little bit. And then Ditty is expected in court
again today. He is going to demand that he'd be
let out on bail. I don't think that's going to happen.
Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That story makes me mad every time I hear it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It gets It's weird because the allegations that have been
made against some of the other people that are supposedly involved,
or the names of people that are in this sphere involved,
maybe not even necessarily part of the criminal network. I
mean you mentioned Denzel Washington supposedly got in some sort
of a shouting match with Ditty at one of the
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parties and stormed out. Is it because of what Denzel
saw and didn't want to have any part of it?
Or why didn't? I mean, he's Denzel Washington. He could
have hit he could have punched Ditty, he could take
him out, Yeah, or he calls out a hit on him,
just like he did on Biggie or Tupac. I guess
it was.
Speaker 9 (21:11):
This is taking a turn. Well, listen, it's all got
to go in the movie at some point, right, It's true. So,
and then the Justin Bieber connection, too, I think has
been that's been a worrisome to me. I've not paid
attention to Justin Bieber ever, but the idea that that kid,
and again this is all speculation, it's it's all tangential,
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tabloid the stuff right now, But if he was a
victim of Ditty, because he hasn't come out and said
that he wasn't, and there's a lot of speculation that
they spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah that, I mean that it breaks my heart.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean I think of you know, obviously, been talking
off air a lot about our kids today and my
six month old daughter. I don't know, just thinking of
how young he was Bieber when he was introduced. I
think to do he was what eleven, twelve thirteen? Yeah,
really really young, and he spent a lot of time
with him. So I'm hoping for the best for his sake.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But I hope it's not true. I mean, I just
hope it's like But I don't know. I mean that
I unfortunately will come out at some point. Portland. We
talk a lot about Portland and there's an interesting thing
going on. Portland is a beautiful place. I thought you
were going to say something else. No, No, I've been
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to Portland a handful of times, and I really like Portland.
It is beautiful. It's a beautiful place. It's like Seattle's
cute little brother. I mean, it's kind of like it.
It has some great old parts of town, great history
in terms of the just the logging communities that grew
up around Portland. It's quirky. It is quirky, it's weird.
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I mean, there's there's that too, super weird.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I think they have the highest rate of taco trucks
and stripper places that why can't I think of that word?
I'm having mom brain strip club, strip clubs.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I knew you'd know. Wait a minute, you've been a
strip clubs in Portland. There's a lot of bruises. The
one hundred days of often violent protests, fentanyl crisis, homelessness crisis,
COVID crisis. They said that this was arguably the nation's
boldest progressive policy experiment in recent history, which was the
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decriminalis Decriminalization of all Drugs Measure one to ten. All
drugs were decriminalized. It was backed by seventy four percent
of voters in Moltnoma County, which is incredible. And then
they realized doesn't work so well. Well, and it's funny
because they used the term unintended consequences about what was
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going to happen. Well, it seems like it's not even
if they're not unforeseen consequences. You know exactly what's going
to happen if you legalize all drugs.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And in their case, it was very clear drug you
shot up, homelessness got way worse, and a lot of
tax payers got the heck out of there.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Everybody wants to fix this. Now there are nineteen people
running for mayor of Oregon, of Portland, I should say,
ninety eight people who are vying for seats on the
city council, nearly all of them campaigning on the left
of center political stance. Perhaps, I mean, it is, after
all Portland, but at the same time, those who may
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be sort of I mean, I think we saw this
in San Francisco as well, where Mayor London Breed had
to do something because she was losing her city. And
in Portland it's bigger than that. In Portland, it's even
more destructive, and it's been even more crippling to the
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economy of the city, to the economy of the entire
county and arguably the state, because Portland is such a
large portion of it.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, we've seen this trend happening in cities across the nation.
Seattle got rid of their ultra progressive city council members
and they did a whole revamp and now things are
starting to get a little bit better there. But you know,
clearly these policies don't work. What is surprising to me
in this news story is that some of the people
who are running left of center, as you put it,
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are blaming unexpected circumstances like the fentonl crisis, and they're
blaming the implementation of these policies. So I think there
are still those who are running who are going to
try to perpetuate the policies that have not been working, kind.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Of like what we're seeing in our Los Angeles County.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
DA race, DA's race. The state level. I mean, one
of the things that I get frustrated about when it
comes to the political environment, I guess in the state
of California is an We've had a Democratic super majority
in the legislature for years. We've had now twelve years
of democratic governor. I mean the last Schwartzenegger's the last
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Republican governor, and even that is kind of a waffler.
But you can't continue to blame Republicans for problems when
they have zero control in Sacramento, right, And that's what
that's kind of the theme that keeps coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And what's frustrating to me, which, as we've said during
this show, and some might know, I ran for US
Senate earlier this year, and what I saw as a
journalist and continue to see, is the repeated effort to
address the.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Or not treat the root cause.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
They treat the symptom, they slap a band aid on
the problem rather than getting to the root cause of it.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And clearly it's not working.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, even when you look at how we've tried
to address homelessness in the state, spending twenty billion dollars
with nothing to show for it's because we keep trying
to stand.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
We have something to show for it. Twice as many
homeless people as we have twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, and you would think that the approach would change,
but we I mean, don't get me started.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
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