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December 18, 2024 30 mins
Mt. Baldy is closed to hikers, and they’re not happy. Calipatria, the city with the world’s largest flagpole. San Diego politicians want to block deportations, the Sheriff refuses / LA DA Hochman’s thoughts on it. Men’s retreats are a ‘safe space’ to feel your feelings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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which meant which meant a nine day losing streak for
the Dow for the first time in forty six years.

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yet because I'm still editing that thing.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh okay, exciting things to announce for this week.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
First of all, on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh wow, that snuck up on me. Tomorrow Tomorrow, Sorrty Thursday. Yeah,
we are going to be presenting our holiday play that
Gary has written. It will be a reprisal of It's

(01:09):
a Wonderful Life. I'm reading through the script. It is
updated and it's hilarious, So you're not gonna want to
miss that.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Minyana. And then on.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
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Channon Show. It's all new and it's very new, and
it's going to be appointment radio. Like you're gonna have
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I will be. You have to be kinda kin Ooh yeah,

(01:43):
I know. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
A couple big other big stories that we're following. Honda's
chief executive says his company is considering a merger with Nissan.
Nissan also acknowledged the potential for such a move, said
that Honda and Nissan had been exploring various possibilities for
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(02:05):
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(02:27):
If you want to access an adult website in those states,
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old by showing a government ID.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So not only are people fighting over the drones over
New Jersey, and they're fighting over the healthcare industry, they're
also fighting over Mount Baldy, particularly the government's closure of
Mount Baldy. It has sparked quite the heated social media debate.
There was that wildfire in September that ravaged Mount Baldy

(02:55):
village right destroyed twenty homes, burnt more than fifty thousand
eight on surrounding hillsides. So the US Forest Service came
in and they closed all of the trails leading to
the Beautiful Summit for more than a year until December
of next year. Actually, they say it's to ensure public safety,
promote the national recovery of the fragile plants and soils

(03:17):
that have been damaged.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
But here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
The summit and the trails leading to it were largely unscathed.
So the hikers who love it say, we're going to
go anyway.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, the village itself, five thousand feet below, was devastated
by the bridge fire. The summit, the most popular trails
look great, at least according to people who've been up
and down those trails, so the agency's decision would allow
recreational businesses inside the area to continue operating despite the

(03:50):
threats to plants and soil.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
There are people out there who are monitoring the online
web cameras and questioning why the Forest Service isn't the
people the rule breakers who are hiking the mountain regardless
of the order. And then there's the people that are
hiking regardless of the order who say that the Forest
Service is useless government agency that is shutting things down

(04:14):
in the name of safety at the expense of freedom,
because this is America.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right, and I can't do it right. Okay, you have
to save your America speech. Really, it wasn't going.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
To be that good.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
A spokesperson for the US Forest Service says that the
most popular trails to the summit, Devil's Backbone and ski
Hut Trail, did not burn up in the bridge fire,
but they are closed because they provide access to other
trails that did burn. I don't know why you can't
just rope off those trails.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
This is the thing.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's the rigid rigidity of the closure decision that makes
people not want to pay attention to the Forest Service.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Ever, it's the you can only.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Play catch with a miniature sized American or football. Now,
that's that's the thing that's pissing people off.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, and I think that's a great point that it
echoes that kind of government over control, overreach.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Nobody wants to listen to the big daddy downtown when
they want to go out and enjoy the nature.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
If you if the forest service head said, you know,
post it a sign and said, hey, we have to
do this together, or else we have to shut it
all down so you can go on Devil's Back, then
you can go on ski Hut trail, but please follow
the signs that tell you that part is out of
is not accessible, that part is off limits because we

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need those areas. We want to make sure that everybody
gets their hiking and loves nature and blah blah blah.
But if you if we break these rules, then nobody
gets it. That to me is a better version of
a policy than sort of a blanket. We can't trust anybody, yes,
because it's it's it's because at least then you can say.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Litstick and so we know better than you do.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
At least that way you give them the conditional opening
of Ski Hut Ski Hut Trail and Devil's Backbone. And
you say, listen, we're all in this together. But if
you don't help us police this policy, then nobody can
climb until December of twenty two.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Give people skin in the game. Yeah, I agree? Why
don't they.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Ask us little? You know? Hiking vigilantism is probably a
good idea, but.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Let's not kill anybody.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
No, just some public shaming perhaps would be.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You're not supposed to be over therey.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Can't you guys read?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
All right?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
What hikers sound like? Is it?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I've only masqueraded as a hiker from time to time,
not a real one. I love a story about a flagpole,
don't you? Who sings flagpoles?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Sitter? What's that? What's that song? Flagpoles?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I don't I'm unfamiliar with that song. That's really good radio?
Do you want me to look it up?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now? We'll find out here in a minute.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Six forty.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Stories we are following for you today.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Former Congressman Matt Gates says he engaged in embarrassing but
not criminal, past behavior. There are reports at the House
Ethics Committee will release a report which put him in well,
they say, a bad light, just the light that he
has created. Essentially, he says, in his single days, he
sent money to women he dated for some time. He
never had sexual contact with someone under eighteen.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
He says.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
He criticized the committee for releasing the report. He resigned
from Congress when Trump selected him to be Attorney General,
withdrew his name from consideration. With reports he would face
this ridiculous battle to be confirmed.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Michael Vick is going to become a college football coach.
One time Falcon Star, one time Jets quarterback has been
hired as Norfolk State's new head coach. Forty four year
old guy played his college ball at Virginia Tech. Had
never coached at any level before he agreed to take
over the Spartans program. They went fifteen and thirty in
the last four seasons.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
There's an unfortunate joke about a mascot being a dog
there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's a Spartan. Okay, good, yeah, very good. Speaking of
college football, the Scooter's Coffee Frisco Bowl last night was
was won by the Memphis Tigers over West Virginia forty
two thirty seven. Two bowls today the Booca Ratone Bowl
between the Western Kentucky Rangers, Will Hilltoppers and the James

(08:41):
and the James Madison Bulldog Dukes Duke. That's at FAU
Stadium down in Florida. And then today game at SOFI
the Art of Sport La Bowl between your California.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Bruins, cal cal Bears.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Bears and your UNLV Run and Rebels Rebel.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
There you go, that's I remember the early nineties. The
CDC has confirmed the first case of the severe bird
flu in the US.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Someone's been put in the hospital with the old bird fluh.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Don't kiss your birds.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah guys, Okay, So have you heard of this place
in Imperial County.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, it is called.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
The Hilltoppers. No Calipatria. Calipatria known for its state prison.
Really a lot of poverty in the area, twenty percent
unemployment rate, it's California's highest. It smells like the Sultan Sea,
which is eight miles to the west. It's surrounded by
agfields solar farms. In the summer, you'll get temperatures above

(09:54):
one hundred and ten degrees. A lot of homes with
dirt instead of grass. You get the idea, right. There's
a couple restaurants, not a lot of businesses to draw
in tourists. But what does draw in tourists is what
was once the tallest flagpole in the world.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, it's one hundred and eighty four feet below sea level,
but the flagpole is one hundred and eighty four feet tall,
so that old glory could fly right at sea level.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's one of those road trip oddities that Clark Griswold
would enjoy.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Is this similar to the world's largest thermometer? Sure that
you're out there in Baker Baker? Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
The ball of rubber bands?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes? Or twine or where is that? I don't know.
Edgar self is Calipatria's public works director and said it's
the shining star of the Imperial Valley. He was setting
out barrels of concrete to anchor eleven strings of white
lights that would be hoisted to the top of the
pole to create a very tall Christmas tree that would

(10:58):
be visible from miles around. His family has lived in
Calipatrie for thirty miles north of the border sorry for
several generations. He says there's not a lot of money
going around. This is one of the things that we
get to do for the community. This is this is listen.
This is what people did fifty years ago.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
They get the kids in the car and they'd say,
kids were going on a drive.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
We're going to go see the world's largest flagpole.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
But I mean, even even if you lived there and
that you saw that flagpole every day, there was something
about your town or your locale that you took pride
in sure, and it could be something as simple as
one hundred and eighty four foot tall flagpole.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
The flagpole has quite the backstory. It stands in honor
of the late Takayo Henry Momita and his wife, Chuzuku
Helen Momita. This was a Japanese American couple who lived
in the town after being incarcerated with their three children

(12:03):
in western Arizona during World War Two at one of
those relocation senator centers. He was a pharmacist who was
born in Hiroshima, moved to California with his parents when
he was eight. He graduated from USC and in the
thirties and forties he ran drug stores throughout the Imperial Valley.
In those days, His daughter says it was difficult for

(12:25):
Japanese to operate a drug store successfully, and as social
pressures increased, business fell off. He would have to find
a new location and start all over again. And then
Pearl Harbor happened.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Obviously, after Executive Order ninety sixty six, the Momitas were
among one hundred and twenty thousand people of Japanese descent
who were forced into these internment camps. One of their sons, Milton,
who's now eighty seven, said he remembers driving through the
gates into that post and camp in eastern sorry West
in Arizona, and he said, I would get up and

(13:03):
every day in class, I would stand for the pledge
of allegiance to the United States of America. And here
we were devoid of all our civil rights, put into
camps without having committed crimes. It was just the fact
that we were Japanese. And he was there for three years.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Three years.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Can you imagine that your family, your kids told to
get on a bus, You're taken to the middle of nowhere,
and you're imprisoned for three years because you were born
in Japan.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
He said that Dad continued to teach their kids that
the United States was a good country to work hard,
keep your nose clean, get an education, be good citizens,
he says. And again this is the sun Milton, he says.
I'm happy to say that my two sisters and myself
we ended up being really good citizens.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
By the early.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Fifties, they were living there and that's where he became dad.
Chamber of commerce, opened another drug store. They loved it.
Helen was there serving coffees. The locals would gather and
talk and chit chat the whole bit.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
She died, unfortunately, in a head on collision while they
were driving to see their adult kids, and she was
fifty years old. Died instantly, but the townspeople got together.
They put hundreds of dollars together for flowers for Helen's funeral.
But said that and said he said his wife didn't
want to have a big memorial.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
So he suggested putting the money towards something that local
officials had pitched years earlier, but that they did not
have the money for a flag pole reaching up to
sea level. He gave five hundred dollars from his own
savings for this. That was a lot of money back then, too.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well, and he was the only one donations came in
the early days of GoFundMe dot com. Vice President Nixon
sent a flag that had flown over the Capitol. Pacific
Southwest Pipe Company offered to put the pole up at
nok at cost, which would be about ten thousand dollars.
The mayor and a city councilman brought an unsuspecting Mometa

(15:00):
to the burbank set of This Is Your Life, I
assuming it was right across the street over there, where
his family and friends joined him on stage to tell
his story and the story of this flagpole that was
going up as a memorial to his wife.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It was erected in October of nineteen fifty eight, and
a bright yellow sign is at its base declares it
still as the world's tallest flagpole.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Now today it's not even close.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
The title currently belongs to a flagpole in Cairo built.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Four years ago, now not even the long tallest In California.
If you've ever been, if you've ever driven to Oregon
up Highway ninety seven, you have to go through this
tiny little town called Doris. They have a massive flagpole
that's also two hundred feet high, dedicated by the Lions
Club that I've seen that with my own eyes.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Do they still pump your gas up there in Oregon?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't know if that's law anymore. I think they
do it in Jersey. I don't remember which places. Yeah,
they don't like it when you get out and pump
your own gas a place like Oregon.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, they'll yell at you.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
They don't care, especially if you've got California plates. Different
if you got Idaho plates or Washington or something.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
There's only one state left where it's illegal to pump
your own gas, and that is in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Was that right?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Oregon last year lifted its seventy two year old ban
on self service gas stations, allowing stations to operate half
of their pumps as self serve.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kfi
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Speaker 2 (16:38):
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the iHeartRadio app. A fire broke out in a Euroup
of Alley overnight. Some wins were the big concern, but
it looks like things are going to be under control.
The Soto fire at about thirty acres twenty percent containment.
The red flag warning we're currently under is expected to
expire about six o'clock tonight. House Republican have concluded that

(17:01):
former Republican Liz Cheney should be prosecuted for investigating what
happened when Donald Trump sent to supporters as Congress was
certifying the twenty twenty election. She has said no court
would ever listen to the report that came out.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
We've talked about men and the loneliness problem. I was
reading a story yesterday that I did not bring to
the show because it made me sick to my stomach.
But it was a documentary on YouTube about this OnlyFans
girl that had sex with like one hundred guys in
one day or something like that. And it was not
just the fact that that is awful, it was the

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fact that men were watching that and that were involved
in that and all of it. And it just talked
about how single the sixty three percent of men under
thirty or whatever single now as opposed to thirty four
percent of women, and men are just they're lonely. They're
not connecting with women in real life life or or otherwise.

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So coming up next, we're going to do a story
about men's retreats that are trying to offer this space
for men to not be so lonely. You're going on
a men's retreat in January.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's not exclusively men.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
There'll be women there. Yeah, do you know that for
a fact?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah? Oh yeah. They did a little town hall thing.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
This is your fantasy baseball camp.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, they did a little thing just to kind of
get people prepared and kind of go through what the
schedule is going to look like. So you know what's
a you know what's a pack, you know what to bring,
you know what's expected of you versus what they're going
to supply for games and things like that and equipment.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
So do they give you a jockstrap?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
They do not give me a jock strap. And I
don't think i've seen a jockstrap.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
What is a jockstrap used for?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
What is it? Well, from the dance world, it's a
dance belt. But a jockstrap is a tougher way to
say It'll. Dance belt is low tea jockstrap is high tea,
and there's usually like your mouth.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
It's very hard to be a dancer if you need
a jockstrap. If you're at that level of dancing strong man,
you need.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
A dance belt. If you're a dancer jockstrap you can
put a cup in, but they don't. I don't even
know if they make I'm sure they make them. Now,
the prevailing preference is a pair of sliding pants that
sometimes may or may not have just a tiny bit
of a pad on the hip so that when you

(19:38):
slide it doesn't scratch right through your your pants and
your hips.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
But what about your genitals? They're just and there's a
sleeve where you can put a cup in. Oh okay,
Why do you know so much about dance belts? Because
my wife was a dance major. That so okay, because
I know that that's what guys wear when they so
they don't wear a cup. Why would a dancer wear
a cup? You don't know anything about dancing If you

(20:05):
don't know that.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, But I know enough that they wear a dance belt.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
So what does that do?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Wait a minute, are you talking with it?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
What does a dance belt do?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It just holds your stuff together?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, so it's not an actual cup, but it's a covering.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Is it a cod piece? Is it a hard is
it a hard plastic shell?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
You're the one who has the wife that was the
dance major, and you came to the table with this
dance belt terminology.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I just thought it was a So you're not you know,
they're not flapping around when the Nutcracker Sweet is playing.
You're not cracking your.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Two male ballet dancers wear cups. No, no, but they
wear the dance belts which are sometimes called cups.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Interesting, they're soft and padded, but they're padded, yes, okay,
so it's like this.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
It's like padding in the front so that you don't
see the actual shape of the genitals.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And you kenned all yourself. Is what you do, right exactly?
You take away all shape and form. You just make
it kind of a huh. Right.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
You don't want to be dancing in the Nutcracker in
front of an auditorium full of children with your genitals.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Just live in their life, right.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Like justin Timberlake? What what? Oh? There was some concert
in Nashville that he did and apparently you could see
more than you needed to.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know a lot about that anecdote.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It came up in my stories.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
It came up in my stories.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yes, And the whole thing was about how now it's
justin Timberlake's turn to have a to have a wardrobe malfunction.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Where was it Nashville? You said, yeah, huh, I don't
know what. I couldn't tell what. It just said that,
Oh that was two days ago. Yeah, why would you
make it sound like it was?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I wish I hadn't seen that.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Can you see anything? I just saw the headline. I
didn't see it looks like.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
It looks like, well, he's very excited about singing.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
No, not excited, it's just oh yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Are we talking about? Look at that break time, Debrah.
I have a quick question.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
What is.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Would you be willing to take part and tomorrow's Gary
and Shannon Show presentation of It's a KFI Wonderful Life.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I would love to.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, great, I have a part for you and everything.
Thank you so much because I know you do all
your voice over work and you like to show up
in movies and plays and things like that. I do.
I do, Thank you, darling.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Miss Patricia has joined the group chat on the male
genitalia on the the Ballet Circuit, and she makes a
good point that if I was to do a pirouet
and you were dancing with me, my knee would be
at the height of your genitals and that would hurt.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
So it's it's protective. Yeah, and why not a cup?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's what I'm wondering. I guess it's it's not.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Aesthetically it's paddage, but it's not a hard plastic right, fiasco,
got it? Okay, I'm glad that we climbed this mountain.
We don't have good work and some good work devor Mark. Yeah, sorry,
it's okay. I'm used to it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yep, are you.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I think it's been two years I've been on your
show something like that. I'm used to it now.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah. Yeah, she gets us.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
She does, I do. She does.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (23:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. President Biden insists the
unidentified drones pose no sense of danger. Left the White
House on his way to Delaware. He said, there's nothing
to farious, but they're checking it all out. He added,
there's a lot of drones authorized up there, referenced a
copycat theory where more people might be launching drones to

(24:13):
join the controversy.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's true. Sure. The Supreme Court is going to hear
arguments next month over the constitutionality of this new federal
law that would ban TikTok in the US if the
Chinese company doesn't sell. The Justices agreed today that they
said they'd hear arguments January tenth about whether this law
impermissively restricts speech in violation of the First Amendment. This

(24:36):
law went into effect in April. It's set a deadline
of January nineteenth for TikTok to be sold by the
Chinese parent company or else face a ban in the
United States. It's not clear how they're quickly they're going
to make their decision. The Justices might act after the
arguments right away to keep the law from taking effect.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know how teenage boys sometimes go through that growth
spurt and their body doesn't catch up and they're bearably thin.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm Blair with giant feet.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
My brother was in that stage of his life when
he was cast as Jesus in the church rendition for
the Rendition of Jesus's Life or or a Christmas play.
Right now they are hiring Jesus models in Utah. Will
tell you about why that is coming up. You couldn't

(25:28):
be a Jesus I have.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't have the skin tone. I don't have the
facial hair, I don't have the sandals, the ribs, the ribs,
what does that mean visible ribs. I could probably drop
a couple lbs between now and Christmas. I mean, I
don't know. You could be really thin underneath all of that.
This is my this is my winter workout gear today.
I have like, this is my holiday movie version of

(25:53):
dressing for warmth. You're wearing three layers. Is there an
undershirt in there as well? No, like a white teath? No,
no T shirt? Okay, it's just a button down shirt.
There's a sweater. And then maybe you.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Are super thin and that's why you're wearing so many layers.
Anorexics do that?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yes, that seems like what I would be doing. Well.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Men in loneliness, it's a thing.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
The Surgeon General last year declared loneliness a national health epidemic,
saying it poses risks as deadly as smoking. About half
of you as adults, say they've experienced loneliness. This was
in an eighty one page report from the Surgeon General's office.
The effects on men can be especially difficult to address

(26:41):
because of, you know, the stigma.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Because you don't talk about it right.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Roughly one in seven men say they have no close friends.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Wow, one in seven.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, men are really looking to belong they want to
be part of something.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
But how does this Okay, it's.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Called every Man Weekend get Away. This one was in
the Berkshars of Massachusetts. About fifty men gathered to open
up about struggles that men often vary, like loneliness. One participant,
named John from Connecticut says, we can just be raw
and real with each other.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
That's not funny, you guys.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I don't think they were laughing at you.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I know.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Okay, But so why is this? Why is this the thing?
Why do men have to do this?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Because connection with fellow men is important. Okay, that's why
I brought up maybe you could be an elk yesterday.
Remember when I brought up maybe you could be an elk?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Like in my latter years I would be a member
of an elk's lodge somewhere or now. I feel way
too young to be a member of an elk's life.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Really, there's elks that are all ages.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's not what I mean. I'm not saying that you
can't be I'm just saying I'm not ready for that.
It's not ready for an all men's retreat, I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Every man is grounded in a science backed approach. We
help you build emotional intelligence.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Huh. I going to be someone in the market for that.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Strengthen relationships, make confident decisions that align with your purpose.
Growth is a shared journey. At every Man, you stand
alongside men who understand your path, know the power of
showing up for themselves and for you.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
You should do that. Yes, why you have to be
taught that I don't quite understand. You should be well if.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
You're lonely, if you don't have friends. One goes back
to the whole one and seven men don't have a
close friend. So maybe this is the collection of misfit
toys and they find a friendship with each other.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I think it's great.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Why it's great because your guide gets away for a
weekend and you have the house yourself.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
That sounds also nice.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay, well see now I've tapped into the true motivation there.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
These guys all look normal, not that there's a normal anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
John r is forty one, He says, walking into every Man,
I wasn't sure what to expect, but the connection, the support,
and the authenticity exceeded all my hopes.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
It's truly life changing.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'll sign up for one of that.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Let's see how much it costs. No, that's what I'm
curious about.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
We'll do swamp Watch when we come back. We'll talk
about the new ethics report that is going to come
out on Matt Gates. They voted and they didn't tell anybody,
so we know that this We're going to see this
thing in the next couple of days.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Because if they're profiting off men's lonely exactly what they're doing,
that's awful. Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You
can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
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