December 19, 2025 • 26 mins
On today’s Gary and Shannon Show, the headlines take some unexpected turns. We dive into Elmer’s Meditation and the mysterious 3I/Atlas comet, plus breaking developments in the Brown University + MIT shooting case, where the suspect was found dead in a storage unit. The Epstein files spark new questions, and the crew wraps up with the latest on the Biffle crash. Serious news, strange stories, and everything in between.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Three I Atlas, our interstellar Invader made its closest approach
to Earth a few hours ago.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Well, I can't believe Avici died. Wait what was that
he died? Yeah, bro, he died. No, yes, I think
right he died.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Like yeah, I think he yeah, yeah. I don't know
why I forgot that.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I just twenty eighteen. He died so young, so young.
You started the show with him. I was enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Wake me up, and then it's like, oh, yes, he died.
It's gonna be hard not to swear. We just recorded
the podcast for tomorrow morning, and Gary was out of
freaking control.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
If his mother heard.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That phenomenal energy, let me just say, you guys gotta
listen to it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
You need to give some meditation so he can calm down.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, el now he is at one hundred. He said
words I haven't heard him say in a very long time.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Who said words? You? You brod You're out of control?
Is it because it's Friday and the body knows it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I think it is?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Did the body take some extra tea this morning, Ritchie.
By the way, I wore that hat last night while
I went for a run.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
What hat?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I got it from Christmas last Because it's Friday and
the body knows it, why aren't you weren't it today?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Seriously, it's Friday and the body knows it. It does clearly,
especially on the podcast because.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Ps Elmer's Meditation was a huge hit. All the feedback
we got was incredible. Elmer, I think this is going
to have to be a thing. If you'll let it.
We can drive people to your YouTube channel. You know,
I see maybe some some merch in your future. You know,
like I don't know, I've got a T shirt, you know,
a silk screen.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Thing, and honestly, like I was taking notes, I definitely
want to like improve, so if yeah, let me try again.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's just like what said the T.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Shirt say, I'm wondering, like, meditate with Elmer sounds kind
of you know.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Relax in Elmer, relax in Elmer, relax in Elmer. I
kind of like that. But that's kind of boomer stuff
what we just said. Elmer says, and then breathe in.
That's a little too Elmo it's a little too.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That's very Elmo, but it's it's somewhere in between that.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Let's workshop it. We'll take suggestions. What should the t
shirts say that we're going to sell the pimp Elmer's
meditations Get capitalism? Sure, capitalism. Yeah, this is America. This
isn't communist so America right now and I love it. Okay,
So what are we doing? What are we doing here today?
(02:43):
It's Gary and Shannon. Did we say that part? No,
we never got there. We're like Petros and money.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He died trying to do the Comet story and.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sorry, Comet came and nothing happened.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, well we don't know that. Take a while.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
For one hundred and sixty eight million miles worth of
comet goot together?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh yes, the good it gets to us right, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Atlas three eye Atlas and we could be at this
point covered with its genetic material.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We just don't know it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There is an issue if they were watching that football
game last night, Oh my god, there were things that
happened in that game that we've never seen before. This
is a Thursday night football game again, people, relax, it's fun.
It's a fun thing. It was the Seahawks hosting the Rams.
It was some Rams were dominating.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So just to set it up, this was the most
important Thursday Night game, quite possibly ever of Thursday Night football.
The Rams and the Seahawks both eleven win teams and
the same division they're playing for, the division they're playing for,
the number one seed in the NFC. It's in Seattle,
where the crowd is insane.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
The Rams have the best.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean, these are two, in my opinion, I say,
yesterday the two best teams in the NFC, and they're
doing battle for postseason implications.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It doesn't get better.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It doesn't get higher stakes in the regular season than
it got last night. And yes, it looked good in
the first half. It looked like it was an even
match game. And then the Rams pull away in the
second half. And at one point it's thirty to fourteen
and I'm driving home. I had the game on it
at the holiday party. I'm out on my phone. I
(04:26):
didn't care. It was a big enough party where it
wasn't a thing. But I'm on the way home and
I hear thirty to fourteen. Andy Dalton throws an interception
to a defensive lineman. I'm like f the Hawks turn
it off?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Why f the Hawks?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Because if the Hawks beat the Rams, the forty nine
ers win out and they have the number one seed
in the NFC and home field advantage throughout. So I've
got skin in the game for the Seahawks to win
this thing.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And I'm pissed off. I turn it off. Yeah, everybody did?
I continue driving. I getting a learn on my phone.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It says two point conversion, and I go, why are
they alerting me about a two point conversion on a
game that no longer matters? And then I look at
the end of the text and it goes, it's tied
up now thirty to three?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
What the what? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I mean I let go maybe five football minutes in
the car of turning it off, and they had come back,
and holy hell.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And I get home.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Just in time to see the very end of the
fourth quarter and in the overtime period, and it did
not disappoint.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know the exact I don't know the last
time a team was able to convert three two point
conversions in a game, but this was, according to statistics,
the first time a team had ever done it in
the fourth quarter or overtime.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
This is also the first time a team has scored
a touchdown in overtime who hasn't won the game, first
time in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Rams being that team scored a touchdown and didn't win
the game, and Seattle got the two point got the
two point conversions.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, And had they kicked the field goal when just
the game ended in a tie or would they have
can continued?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But I don't know. The overtone rule.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Over the overtime rules is if Seattle kicked the field
goal and just got the extra point, sorry, if they
kicked the extra point and it was thirty seven to
thirty seven, is that the end of the game and
it goes in a tie?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I think they would continue to play because if both
of them had kicked a field.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, I think they play.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I think that they would continue to play in
that case, just.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Through the end of whatever time was left in the
over time right right, right. But it's a very it's
a fun.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I like overtime rules the way they are now, because
each each team gets the ball. If you win the
cost the toss, like Seattle did last night, you choose.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
To defer so that you get the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Second, since everybody gets a turn here, you got enough
time to get a turn. You know what you have
to do. You know if the Rams went down and
just scored a field goal. And that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
One of the things that made it fun was this
two point conversion in the fourth quarter where the Seahawks
thought they had blown it. It was a quick pass,
balls on the ground. One of the Seahawks players actually
picked it up to hand it back.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Every time they say his name, I think they're saying chardonnay.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Still in your head. But they reviewed the play. It
was a backwards pass. Technically it's a fumble if you will,
and then nobody picked it up except the Seahawks player
who picked it up right there on the end zone.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That amounts to a two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
This is the announcement, by the way, that after the replay,
did anybody in the stands have any idea what was
actually going on?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
The tire game of this magnitude in the fourth quarter
was sixth mondy to go.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
After reviewing the play, the quarterback through a backward pass
which the covert in the end zone.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
By the all periods, it was a first conversion.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
His name is Zach Sharbonet Sharboney, Yes, but how does
that not sound like Sharday.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It was funny.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They're like Sharonay, Sharonay, Kobe Bryant, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It was a crazy game to listen to.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
H So, anyway, it's a good start to this week
of a football A couple games.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
They don't play Saturday yet do they? Now? Is it
this weekend? This is next weekend? They do play Saturday.
There's two games this there are two games of this.
This Saturday is Packers Bears. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And there's a lot of speculation about how Micah Parsons
being injured with the Packers may benefit the Bears in
terms of just confusing, being confusing for or I mean,
might benefit the Packers just because it may confuse the
Bears on who the pressure, where the pressure is coming.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
From, because it usually always Michael Parsons. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
All right, Well, we do Gas Fantasy for play late
in the show. This is going to be a packed
show as well. We have a bunch of get to
small business shout out is coming in today. We have
a special guest coming in to talk about entertainment news
along with Heather Brookers. So all of that still to
come on this big Friday show.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It is December nineteenth, twenty twenty five, Frida Day, and
this is the day the aliens have come.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
We're all still here. I haven't noticed they're infiltration.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But it feels buzzy, feels buzzy, a little buzzy around here.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Would we know if, I mean, if the mind virus
took us over and was like just we're going to
make them pretend like it's everything's still cool.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, that's fine with me. You wouldn't know it. No,
I doe, have you been taken over? Right now?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You have been acting a little bit high octane, A
high octane me. It's funny because when I got here,
Almer he was at his desk and he was very quiet,
very subdued, non verbal almost, and then all of a sudden,
(09:44):
it was like a switch flipped, like the alien pressed play.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
On the button. And then he started swearing. And I
can swear until we were in the closed room though,
And it wasn't out of anger.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
No, it was delight keeping eye except for when you
said you effing hated something. Remember that part. You went
through a lot of different emotions. Did you blackout? You
don't remember this conversation. We don't have to listen to
that podcast tomorrow when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Reminder though, the Weekend Fix is an episode of the
podcast that comes out only on Saturdays. It's not part
of our regular show, so that actually will air tomorrow morning.
So subscribe to the podcast where if you find a podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Got the alert Yesterday, man a suspected of killing two
people at Brown University found dead in a storage facility
in New Hampshire. This is the guy that they liked
for the MIT shooting as well. Claudio Nevez Valente is
his name. Forty eight years old, a Brown student and
a Portuguese national.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
LEA. Foley is an assisting US attorney in charge of
this case.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
He's Valente studied at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island,
on an F one visa around two thousand to twenty
twenty one. He eventually obtained legal permanent residence. Previously, he
attended the same academic program as the MIT professor Nuno
Lurierro in Portugal between nineteen ninety five and two thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So obviously they haven't come out with specifically the motive
for this, but it sounds like, just based on history,
you can imagine there's probably some sort of ongoing beef
between these two guys.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
He was using a phone that was obtu skating ability
to track it, and he was using financial like not
credit cards that were tied to his name, and so
he was sophisticated in hiding his tracks.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They said that tipsters were a big reason that they
were able to track down this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Specifically, the one guy who apparently confronted him in the
building at Brown earlier in the day that he actually
apparently a homeless guy, had seen this guy seemed out
of place, we're in the wrong kind of cl for
the weather in Providence, Rhode Island, and made eye contact
(12:05):
with him and followed him out of the building. This
is hours before the actual shooting. Followed him out of
the building, saw that he was headed towards a car,
recognized that it was this green or aqua colored Nissan
with Florida plates of all things, and then the guy
kind of veers off, doesn't end up going to the
car and just starts walking around the block. But this
(12:26):
John is the name that they've given. John follows the
guy around just because he seems weird. Now he then
posts something on Reddit like, look for this colored car,
this Nissan CenTra.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It had Florida plates.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's probably a rental This was a weird guy that
I saw in the Brown building hours before the shooting.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And what they do is they find the rental car,
they go to the rental car agency, or they identify
the car, they go to the rental car agency, and
they're able to get video of the guy. And obviously
why wouldn't he He signed his real name to the
rental car agreement. So once they put out they use
license plate readers, they find sort of at least a
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general location of where he had traveled and knew that
he was also in the area where that MIT professor
was killed at the same time.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So that's how they kind of connected those two.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And now we know not only was he a student
at Brown at one point, he may have studied with
this guy back in Portugal back in the nineties. So
I mean, good old fashioned police work. And guess what,
the FBI looks awful in this once again, because the
FBI as much as they may have been helpful. The
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high profile version of it is cash Betel comes out
and says we got him, or something to that effect,
like we've picked up the suspect within hours of the
shooting at Brown University, when it's a guy who had
nothing to do with it, and it took them five
days once they find this guy, like you said, suicide
and storage unit somewhere, the FBI makes it this conclusion
(14:07):
makes it look like the FBI didn't have much to
do with solving the actual case.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, they're going through an optics problem right now, no
doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And it comes from the top. That's the problem. Yeah,
that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Coming up next, we will get into what we know
with regard to the Epstein files release. Like I said,
Christmas is six days away. The baby Jesus is ready
to pop out. Do we really need to continue with
this whole charade, especially this time of year?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Charad? Are there some people that say charad? Yes, they're
called French? Oh is that right? Yes? Yes? Is that
how you say is yes? Is that a little? Italian?
Italians are nice people too. Welcome to the dumb dumb show.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Characterized by the presence of milk producing mammory, so it's
just the nipples.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
They also have a.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Broad neo cortex region of their brain usually fur or hair,
and three middle ear bones. Those are all characteristics of mammal.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So furry hair head forehead, furry forehead, three or hair,
furry forehead. Furry is hairy as well, so just go
furry four head. It's easy to remember. Three bones in
the ears and nipples, and that's how you know it's
a mammal basically doing real work here today.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
We are doing something here today. I'll tell you that
way where three bones, I can't feel it in the ear,
your ear in the stick as.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Opposed to the cartilage. You're asking me what they're.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Called horseshoes stirrups, a technical word, three tiny little bones
in your ear.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I will look it up right now here here.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
While you're doing that. Rain is coming last week. National
Weather Services rain is going to be coming through probably Tuesday, Wednesday,
and into Thursday into Christmas Day before it tapers off,
and the Sierravda is expecting anywhere to catch between six
and twelve inches of snow.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
So they're known as the ossicles, all right. They are
the malleius, the incus, and the stapes, also known as
the hammer, the anvil, and the stirrup.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Hammer, hammer, the anvil, and the stirrups. Still a lot
of time. Stirrup is a fun word. In a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You learned about that at some point in your education, Yes,
and you did too.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I guarantee, I guarantee you. I never learned ever bones
in the ear.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yes you did. Did you learn about any bones? No?
How many bones are in your body? A lot? Correct? Many?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Two?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
No? How many? Two hundred and eleven, two hundred and six.
The point is, unless you've broken them, then you have to.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Unless you've broken them, yes, you've got some floaters in
there somewhere. That is One of the core teachings of
a biology class in high school is anatomy and bones.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
My biology teacher in high school. I got a call
about when I was in college from some sort of
child molestation board and they wanted to know what my
experience was, and I said, yes, that guy is one
hundred percent of child molester. My biology teacher, his name
was mister Weckel on Fridays, we would wear cheerleading uniforms.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Right as you, guy, you're accusing of molestation. I didn't
accuse him of it. You just did well.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It was it was asked and answered, he went away,
I'm not the judge and.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The jury here like that was you're just a corroborating witness.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
They called me up. They were like, we heard he
was creepy be to you? Was he creepy to you?
I said absolutely so, Yeah, you wear your cheerleading uniforms
on Friday. And he asked me a few times, why
don't you get up on my desk and do a
cheerleading routine or something of that nature.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Now he said it as a joke.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Ha ha, But mister Weckle oosed child molester like he was
just gross.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So therefore, and also did learn about the fares in
the ear you have wiped it?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh? I was not paying attention. I was trying to
not deal with mister Weckle.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Hey did he wear New Balanced shoes? Also? Pretty much
the New Balance esque. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
He was a big short man and he had facial
hair and he was just gross. I remember we had
one assignment where you were supposed to go home and
do like, you know, blue eyes and brown eyes with
your parents, right, like what kind of eyes they have?
Are they right handed? Left handed? All these things and
what do you have? And I said, I could do this,
but doesn't really make sense because I was adopted.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Mendel squares that what that's called.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Again not paying attention, and he said you should track
down your biological family and do this exercise. I mean,
he was off the reservation Nutso this guy, there was
no biology I learned public schools, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Speaking of the documents from the Department of Justice are
due out at some point today regarding Jeffrey Epstein, and
already they're setting the tone to not release the documents
about Jeffrey Epstein. Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General, says they
will not be releasing the full Epstein files to Congress,
(19:40):
as required by law, but instead we'll be sending over
a partial batch. He said there are several hundred thousand
documents that will be coming out today, but said that
over the next couple of weeks there will be several
hundred thousand more. He says the delay is because of
the need to redact any names or identifying in information
(20:00):
about witnesses, but failing to turn over the full unclassified
files could put them.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
In a foul of the law, if you will, what
is the public benefit to releasing these.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Good question outside of what we already know about some
of this stuff. And the Democrats on the House Oversight
Committee have also been releasing a few dozen pictures here,
a few dozen pictures there, which have contained zero surprises
as of yet. Thomas Massey, one of the architects of
(20:35):
that transparency law, regarding this issue, says, we will know
if they give us all the information very quickly.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
But the other way that we're going to know is
the victims lawyers have been in contact with me, and
collectively they know there are at least twenty names of
men who are accused of sex crimes in the possession
of the FBI. These would reside in the FD three
to two forms. The FBI fills out these forms to
(21:08):
summarize or memorialize what a witness gave them as far
as a testimony when they interviewed with the FBI. So
if we get a large production on December nineteenth, and
it does not contain a single name of any male
who's accused of a sex crime or sex trafficking or
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rape or any of these things. Then we know they
haven't produced all the documents. It's that simple, he says.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
One of the things that we could learn from a
document dump like this, assuming it's complete, is whether or
not Pambondi, the Attorney General and Cash Betel, the director
of the FBI, we're lying about the contents of the files.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
All right, We've got evidence that Alan Jackson is already
leaking things to the media and absolutely full steam ahead
with this reason of insanity defense not guilty by reason
of insanity defense that he is working on for Nick Reiner.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
We have proof of that. We'll get to that coming
up in the show as well.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I found a band yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I was at a holiday party and there's this kick
ass band that's playing and they're playing it's like classic rock.
They're they're great, and I'm like, ah, this band is cool.
End up talking to them and they're Gas family members. Wow,
they are gas members. Yes, they're called cheap Sacks and
(22:46):
they are really great. Jeff is one of the front
men Ronnie is in there. Gary Dave, Jeff's daughter plays keyboard.
She sayings she's exceptional Misty. It is a fun time.
They play apparently a lot at Old Stump with atweena
Old Stump Brewery out there in Pomona, and it was
(23:08):
it was a great time. They got people on the
dance floor everyone. You love every song they play and
they do it with enthusiasm. Just a great time. Cheap
Sacks you can find them on Instagram. Let me see
how sheepas band. Cheap Sacks band on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they're everywhere. Cheap Sacks.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Check them out.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
One of the sad stories that we talked about yesterday
that kind of developed during the show was this plane
crash out of North Carolina. It's been confirmed that, in fact,
it was former NASCAR driver Greg Biffel and his family,
among others. His wife, Christina apparently had sent a text
message to her mom when they knew on the plane
(23:48):
that something was wrong. She had sent her mother a
text message that simply said we're in trouble, and then
moments later the plane crashed as it was coming back
in for a landing at Statesville, North Carolina. Had only
been in the air for a few minutes before the
pilots went to turn around. Seven people killed in total.
Biffle was fifty five, his wife Christina, their son Rider,
(24:13):
and Greg's daughter Emma, who's fourteen shared with an ex wife,
plus Dennis Dutton, his son Jack, and then Craig Wadsworth.
They're apparently headed out for a birthday trip according to
according to Christina's mother, the racing community very very close
(24:34):
knit and especially for good guys, I mean, Greg Biffle
was celebrated. We mentioned yesterday that he was a pilot
in his own right. I knew he flew helicopters. I
don't know if he flew fixed wing planes, but we
knew he flew helicopters because he was instrumental in recovering
after Hurricane Helene that went through North Carolina and devastated
(24:54):
parts of that state, especially the western parts of that state,
where he literally was going into area is where others
would not go to rescue people that had been stranded
or cut off because of the hurricane and the floods
that resulted afterwards. He was also dedicated to hurricane relief
in Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean that were
(25:15):
devastated by hurricanes. So he got a lot of kudos
overnight as people lamented the loss.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Of this really, really big hearted guy.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
All Right, as I mentioned, it looks like there are
reports leaking out of the defense team. That's my speculation
that Nick Reiner was diagnosed with schizophrenia and in the
weeks leading up to the murder of his parents that
the meds he was taking weren't just right. That is
the early attack they are going with. This defense team
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will tell you more of the information that has been
leaked about his mental status at the time of the murderers,
allegedly when we return.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
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Speaker 2 (26:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Three I Atlas, our interstellar Invader made its closest approach
to Earth a few hours ago.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Well, I can't believe Avici died. Wait what was that
he died? Yeah, bro, he died. No, yes, I think
right he died.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Like yeah, I think he yeah, yeah. I don't know
why I forgot that.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I just twenty eighteen. He died so young, so young.
You started the show with him. I was enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Wake me up, and then it's like, oh, yes, he died.
It's gonna be hard not to swear. We just recorded
the podcast for tomorrow morning, and Gary was out of
freaking control.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
If his mother heard.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That phenomenal energy, let me just say, you guys gotta
listen to it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
You need to give some meditation so he can calm down.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, el now he is at one hundred. He said
words I haven't heard him say in a very long time.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Who said words? You? You brod You're out of control?
Is it because it's Friday and the body knows it?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I think it is?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Did the body take some extra tea this morning, Ritchie.
By the way, I wore that hat last night while
I went for a run.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
What hat?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I got it from Christmas last Because it's Friday and
the body knows it, why aren't you weren't it today?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Seriously, it's Friday and the body knows it. It does clearly,
especially on the podcast because.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Ps Elmer's Meditation was a huge hit. All the feedback
we got was incredible. Elmer, I think this is going
to have to be a thing. If you'll let it.
We can drive people to your YouTube channel. You know,
I see maybe some some merch in your future. You know,
like I don't know, I've got a T shirt, you know,
a silk screen.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Thing, and honestly, like I was taking notes, I definitely
want to like improve, so if yeah, let me try again.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's just like what said the T.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Shirt say, I'm wondering, like, meditate with Elmer sounds kind
of you know.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Relax in Elmer, relax in Elmer, relax in Elmer. I
kind of like that. But that's kind of boomer stuff
what we just said. Elmer says, and then breathe in.
That's a little too Elmo it's a little too.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
That's very Elmo, but it's it's somewhere in between that.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Let's workshop it. We'll take suggestions. What should the t
shirts say that we're going to sell the pimp Elmer's
meditations Get capitalism? Sure, capitalism. Yeah, this is America. This
isn't communist so America right now and I love it. Okay,
So what are we doing? What are we doing here today?
(02:43):
It's Gary and Shannon. Did we say that part? No,
we never got there. We're like Petros and money.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He died trying to do the Comet story and.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sorry, Comet came and nothing happened.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, well we don't know that. Take a while.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
For one hundred and sixty eight million miles worth of
comet goot together?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh yes, the good it gets to us right, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Atlas three eye Atlas and we could be at this
point covered with its genetic material.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We just don't know it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There is an issue if they were watching that football
game last night, Oh my god, there were things that
happened in that game that we've never seen before. This
is a Thursday night football game again, people, relax, it's fun.
It's a fun thing. It was the Seahawks hosting the Rams.
It was some Rams were dominating.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So just to set it up, this was the most
important Thursday Night game, quite possibly ever of Thursday Night football.
The Rams and the Seahawks both eleven win teams and
the same division they're playing for, the division they're playing for,
the number one seed in the NFC. It's in Seattle,
where the crowd is insane.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
The Rams have the best.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean, these are two, in my opinion, I say,
yesterday the two best teams in the NFC, and they're
doing battle for postseason implications.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It doesn't get better.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It doesn't get higher stakes in the regular season than
it got last night. And yes, it looked good in
the first half. It looked like it was an even
match game. And then the Rams pull away in the
second half. And at one point it's thirty to fourteen
and I'm driving home. I had the game on it
at the holiday party. I'm out on my phone. I
(04:26):
didn't care. It was a big enough party where it
wasn't a thing. But I'm on the way home and
I hear thirty to fourteen. Andy Dalton throws an interception
to a defensive lineman. I'm like f the Hawks turn
it off?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Why f the Hawks?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Because if the Hawks beat the Rams, the forty nine
ers win out and they have the number one seed
in the NFC and home field advantage throughout. So I've
got skin in the game for the Seahawks to win
this thing.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And I'm pissed off. I turn it off. Yeah, everybody did?
I continue driving. I getting a learn on my phone.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It says two point conversion, and I go, why are
they alerting me about a two point conversion on a
game that no longer matters? And then I look at
the end of the text and it goes, it's tied
up now thirty to three?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
What the what? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I mean I let go maybe five football minutes in
the car of turning it off, and they had come back,
and holy hell.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And I get home.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Just in time to see the very end of the
fourth quarter and in the overtime period, and it did
not disappoint.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know the exact I don't know the last
time a team was able to convert three two point
conversions in a game, but this was, according to statistics,
the first time a team had ever done it in
the fourth quarter or overtime.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
This is also the first time a team has scored
a touchdown in overtime who hasn't won the game, first
time in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Rams being that team scored a touchdown and didn't win
the game, and Seattle got the two point got the
two point conversions.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, And had they kicked the field goal when just
the game ended in a tie or would they have
can continued?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But I don't know. The overtone rule.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Over the overtime rules is if Seattle kicked the field
goal and just got the extra point, sorry, if they
kicked the extra point and it was thirty seven to
thirty seven, is that the end of the game and
it goes in a tie?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I think they would continue to play because if both
of them had kicked a field.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, I think they play.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I think that they would continue to play in
that case, just.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Through the end of whatever time was left in the
over time right right, right. But it's a very it's
a fun.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I like overtime rules the way they are now, because
each each team gets the ball. If you win the
cost the toss, like Seattle did last night, you choose.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
To defer so that you get the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Second, since everybody gets a turn here, you got enough
time to get a turn. You know what you have
to do. You know if the Rams went down and
just scored a field goal. And that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
One of the things that made it fun was this
two point conversion in the fourth quarter where the Seahawks
thought they had blown it. It was a quick pass,
balls on the ground. One of the Seahawks players actually
picked it up to hand it back.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Every time they say his name, I think they're saying chardonnay.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Still in your head. But they reviewed the play. It
was a backwards pass. Technically it's a fumble if you will,
and then nobody picked it up except the Seahawks player
who picked it up right there on the end zone.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That amounts to a two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
This is the announcement, by the way, that after the replay,
did anybody in the stands have any idea what was
actually going on?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
The tire game of this magnitude in the fourth quarter
was sixth mondy to go.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
After reviewing the play, the quarterback through a backward pass
which the covert in the end zone.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
By the all periods, it was a first conversion.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
His name is Zach Sharbonet Sharboney, Yes, but how does
that not sound like Sharday.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It was funny.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They're like Sharonay, Sharonay, Kobe Bryant, Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It was a crazy game to listen to.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
H So, anyway, it's a good start to this week
of a football A couple games.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
They don't play Saturday yet do they? Now? Is it
this weekend? This is next weekend? They do play Saturday.
There's two games this there are two games of this.
This Saturday is Packers Bears. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And there's a lot of speculation about how Micah Parsons
being injured with the Packers may benefit the Bears in
terms of just confusing, being confusing for or I mean,
might benefit the Packers just because it may confuse the
Bears on who the pressure, where the pressure is coming.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
From, because it usually always Michael Parsons. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
All right, Well, we do Gas Fantasy for play late
in the show. This is going to be a packed
show as well. We have a bunch of get to
small business shout out is coming in today. We have
a special guest coming in to talk about entertainment news
along with Heather Brookers. So all of that still to
come on this big Friday show.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It is December nineteenth, twenty twenty five, Frida Day, and
this is the day the aliens have come.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
We're all still here. I haven't noticed they're infiltration.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But it feels buzzy, feels buzzy, a little buzzy around here.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Would we know if, I mean, if the mind virus
took us over and was like just we're going to
make them pretend like it's everything's still cool.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, that's fine with me. You wouldn't know it. No,
I doe, have you been taken over? Right now?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You have been acting a little bit high octane, A
high octane me. It's funny because when I got here,
Almer he was at his desk and he was very quiet,
very subdued, non verbal almost, and then all of a sudden,
(09:44):
it was like a switch flipped, like the alien pressed play.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
On the button. And then he started swearing. And I
can swear until we were in the closed room though,
And it wasn't out of anger.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
No, it was delight keeping eye except for when you
said you effing hated something. Remember that part. You went
through a lot of different emotions. Did you blackout? You
don't remember this conversation. We don't have to listen to
that podcast tomorrow when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Reminder though, the Weekend Fix is an episode of the
podcast that comes out only on Saturdays. It's not part
of our regular show, so that actually will air tomorrow morning.
So subscribe to the podcast where if you find a podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Got the alert Yesterday, man a suspected of killing two
people at Brown University found dead in a storage facility
in New Hampshire. This is the guy that they liked
for the MIT shooting as well. Claudio Nevez Valente is
his name. Forty eight years old, a Brown student and
a Portuguese national.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
LEA. Foley is an assisting US attorney in charge of
this case.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
He's Valente studied at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island,
on an F one visa around two thousand to twenty
twenty one. He eventually obtained legal permanent residence. Previously, he
attended the same academic program as the MIT professor Nuno
Lurierro in Portugal between nineteen ninety five and two thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So obviously they haven't come out with specifically the motive
for this, but it sounds like, just based on history,
you can imagine there's probably some sort of ongoing beef
between these two guys.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
He was using a phone that was obtu skating ability
to track it, and he was using financial like not
credit cards that were tied to his name, and so
he was sophisticated in hiding his tracks.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They said that tipsters were a big reason that they
were able to track down this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Specifically, the one guy who apparently confronted him in the
building at Brown earlier in the day that he actually
apparently a homeless guy, had seen this guy seemed out
of place, we're in the wrong kind of cl for
the weather in Providence, Rhode Island, and made eye contact
(12:05):
with him and followed him out of the building. This
is hours before the actual shooting. Followed him out of
the building, saw that he was headed towards a car,
recognized that it was this green or aqua colored Nissan
with Florida plates of all things, and then the guy
kind of veers off, doesn't end up going to the
car and just starts walking around the block. But this
(12:26):
John is the name that they've given. John follows the
guy around just because he seems weird. Now he then
posts something on Reddit like, look for this colored car,
this Nissan CenTra.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It had Florida plates.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's probably a rental This was a weird guy that
I saw in the Brown building hours before the shooting.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And what they do is they find the rental car,
they go to the rental car agency, or they identify
the car, they go to the rental car agency, and
they're able to get video of the guy. And obviously
why wouldn't he He signed his real name to the
rental car agreement. So once they put out they use
license plate readers, they find sort of at least a
(13:08):
general location of where he had traveled and knew that
he was also in the area where that MIT professor
was killed at the same time.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So that's how they kind of connected those two.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And now we know not only was he a student
at Brown at one point, he may have studied with
this guy back in Portugal back in the nineties. So
I mean, good old fashioned police work. And guess what,
the FBI looks awful in this once again, because the
FBI as much as they may have been helpful. The
(13:41):
high profile version of it is cash Betel comes out
and says we got him, or something to that effect,
like we've picked up the suspect within hours of the
shooting at Brown University, when it's a guy who had
nothing to do with it, and it took them five
days once they find this guy, like you said, suicide
and storage unit somewhere, the FBI makes it this conclusion
(14:07):
makes it look like the FBI didn't have much to
do with solving the actual case.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, they're going through an optics problem right now, no
doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And it comes from the top. That's the problem. Yeah,
that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Coming up next, we will get into what we know
with regard to the Epstein files release. Like I said,
Christmas is six days away. The baby Jesus is ready
to pop out. Do we really need to continue with
this whole charade, especially this time of year?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Charad? Are there some people that say charad? Yes, they're
called French? Oh is that right? Yes? Yes? Is that
how you say is yes? Is that a little? Italian?
Italians are nice people too. Welcome to the dumb dumb show.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Characterized by the presence of milk producing mammory, so it's
just the nipples.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
They also have a.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Broad neo cortex region of their brain usually fur or hair,
and three middle ear bones. Those are all characteristics of mammal.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So furry hair head forehead, furry forehead, three or hair,
furry forehead. Furry is hairy as well, so just go
furry four head. It's easy to remember. Three bones in
the ears and nipples, and that's how you know it's
a mammal basically doing real work here today.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
We are doing something here today. I'll tell you that
way where three bones, I can't feel it in the ear,
your ear in the stick as.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Opposed to the cartilage. You're asking me what they're.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Called horseshoes stirrups, a technical word, three tiny little bones
in your ear.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I will look it up right now here here.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
While you're doing that. Rain is coming last week. National
Weather Services rain is going to be coming through probably Tuesday, Wednesday,
and into Thursday into Christmas Day before it tapers off,
and the Sierravda is expecting anywhere to catch between six
and twelve inches of snow.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
So they're known as the ossicles, all right. They are
the malleius, the incus, and the stapes, also known as
the hammer, the anvil, and the stirrup.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Hammer, hammer, the anvil, and the stirrups. Still a lot
of time. Stirrup is a fun word. In a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You learned about that at some point in your education, Yes,
and you did too.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I guarantee, I guarantee you. I never learned ever bones
in the ear.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yes you did. Did you learn about any bones? No?
How many bones are in your body? A lot? Correct? Many?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Two?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
No? How many? Two hundred and eleven, two hundred and six.
The point is, unless you've broken them, then you have to.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Unless you've broken them, yes, you've got some floaters in
there somewhere. That is One of the core teachings of
a biology class in high school is anatomy and bones.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
My biology teacher in high school. I got a call
about when I was in college from some sort of
child molestation board and they wanted to know what my
experience was, and I said, yes, that guy is one
hundred percent of child molester. My biology teacher, his name
was mister Weckel on Fridays, we would wear cheerleading uniforms.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Right as you, guy, you're accusing of molestation. I didn't
accuse him of it. You just did well.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It was it was asked and answered, he went away,
I'm not the judge and.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
The jury here like that was you're just a corroborating witness.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
They called me up. They were like, we heard he
was creepy be to you? Was he creepy to you?
I said absolutely so, Yeah, you wear your cheerleading uniforms
on Friday. And he asked me a few times, why
don't you get up on my desk and do a
cheerleading routine or something of that nature.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Now he said it as a joke.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Ha ha, But mister Weckle oosed child molester like he was
just gross.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So therefore, and also did learn about the fares in
the ear you have wiped it?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh? I was not paying attention. I was trying to
not deal with mister Weckle.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Hey did he wear New Balanced shoes? Also? Pretty much
the New Balance esque. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
He was a big short man and he had facial
hair and he was just gross. I remember we had
one assignment where you were supposed to go home and
do like, you know, blue eyes and brown eyes with
your parents, right, like what kind of eyes they have?
Are they right handed? Left handed? All these things and
what do you have? And I said, I could do this,
but doesn't really make sense because I was adopted.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Mendel squares that what that's called.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Again not paying attention, and he said you should track
down your biological family and do this exercise. I mean,
he was off the reservation Nutso this guy, there was
no biology I learned public schools, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Speaking of the documents from the Department of Justice are
due out at some point today regarding Jeffrey Epstein, and
already they're setting the tone to not release the documents
about Jeffrey Epstein. Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General, says they
will not be releasing the full Epstein files to Congress,
(19:40):
as required by law, but instead we'll be sending over
a partial batch. He said there are several hundred thousand
documents that will be coming out today, but said that
over the next couple of weeks there will be several
hundred thousand more. He says the delay is because of
the need to redact any names or identifying in information
(20:00):
about witnesses, but failing to turn over the full unclassified
files could put them.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
In a foul of the law, if you will, what
is the public benefit to releasing these.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Good question outside of what we already know about some
of this stuff. And the Democrats on the House Oversight
Committee have also been releasing a few dozen pictures here,
a few dozen pictures there, which have contained zero surprises
as of yet. Thomas Massey, one of the architects of
(20:35):
that transparency law, regarding this issue, says, we will know
if they give us all the information very quickly.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
But the other way that we're going to know is
the victims lawyers have been in contact with me, and
collectively they know there are at least twenty names of
men who are accused of sex crimes in the possession
of the FBI. These would reside in the FD three
to two forms. The FBI fills out these forms to
(21:08):
summarize or memorialize what a witness gave them as far
as a testimony when they interviewed with the FBI. So
if we get a large production on December nineteenth, and
it does not contain a single name of any male
who's accused of a sex crime or sex trafficking or
(21:31):
rape or any of these things. Then we know they
haven't produced all the documents. It's that simple, he says.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
One of the things that we could learn from a
document dump like this, assuming it's complete, is whether or
not Pambondi, the Attorney General and Cash Betel, the director
of the FBI, we're lying about the contents of the files.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
All right, We've got evidence that Alan Jackson is already
leaking things to the media and absolutely full steam ahead
with this reason of insanity defense not guilty by reason
of insanity defense that he is working on for Nick Reiner.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
We have proof of that. We'll get to that coming
up in the show as well.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I found a band yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I was at a holiday party and there's this kick
ass band that's playing and they're playing it's like classic rock.
They're they're great, and I'm like, ah, this band is cool.
End up talking to them and they're Gas family members. Wow,
they are gas members. Yes, they're called cheap Sacks and
(22:46):
they are really great. Jeff is one of the front
men Ronnie is in there. Gary Dave, Jeff's daughter plays keyboard.
She sayings she's exceptional Misty. It is a fun time.
They play apparently a lot at Old Stump with atweena
Old Stump Brewery out there in Pomona, and it was
(23:08):
it was a great time. They got people on the
dance floor everyone. You love every song they play and
they do it with enthusiasm. Just a great time. Cheap
Sacks you can find them on Instagram. Let me see
how sheepas band. Cheap Sacks band on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they're everywhere. Cheap Sacks.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Check them out.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
One of the sad stories that we talked about yesterday
that kind of developed during the show was this plane
crash out of North Carolina. It's been confirmed that, in fact,
it was former NASCAR driver Greg Biffel and his family,
among others. His wife, Christina apparently had sent a text
message to her mom when they knew on the plane
(23:48):
that something was wrong. She had sent her mother a
text message that simply said we're in trouble, and then
moments later the plane crashed as it was coming back
in for a landing at Statesville, North Carolina. Had only
been in the air for a few minutes before the
pilots went to turn around. Seven people killed in total.
Biffle was fifty five, his wife Christina, their son Rider,
(24:13):
and Greg's daughter Emma, who's fourteen shared with an ex wife,
plus Dennis Dutton, his son Jack, and then Craig Wadsworth.
They're apparently headed out for a birthday trip according to
according to Christina's mother, the racing community very very close
(24:34):
knit and especially for good guys, I mean, Greg Biffle
was celebrated. We mentioned yesterday that he was a pilot
in his own right. I knew he flew helicopters. I
don't know if he flew fixed wing planes, but we
knew he flew helicopters because he was instrumental in recovering
after Hurricane Helene that went through North Carolina and devastated
(24:54):
parts of that state, especially the western parts of that state,
where he literally was going into area is where others
would not go to rescue people that had been stranded
or cut off because of the hurricane and the floods
that resulted afterwards. He was also dedicated to hurricane relief
in Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean that were
(25:15):
devastated by hurricanes. So he got a lot of kudos
overnight as people lamented the loss.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Of this really, really big hearted guy.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
All Right, as I mentioned, it looks like there are
reports leaking out of the defense team. That's my speculation
that Nick Reiner was diagnosed with schizophrenia and in the
weeks leading up to the murder of his parents that
the meds he was taking weren't just right. That is
the early attack they are going with. This defense team
(25:49):
will tell you more of the information that has been
leaked about his mental status at the time of the murderers,
allegedly when we return.
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