July 2, 2025 • 33 mins
More unsheltered Angelenos are ‘rough sleeping’ without a tent, study says / Homeless populations drop dramatically in Hollywood and Venice. AI note takers are flooding Zoom calls as workers opt to skip meetings / AI-powered virtual recruiters are interviewing candidates for jobs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sean Diddy Combs got a split verdict today, acquitted on
some of the bigger charges but convicted of a lesser
sex crimes charge. The jury today found him guilty of
two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution, but acquitted
him on the top charge of racketeering and the sex
trafficking counts against him.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And then Brian Coberger in court right now actually to
make his controversial plea that we spoke about yesterday. This
plea allows him to avoid the death penalty. Judge still
has to approve the agreement. That's what's happening today there
in Idaho. As we talked about yesterday, the call. The
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deal calls for him to plead guilty to four counts
of first degree murder for that slaughter and that off
campus house at the University of Idaho one count of
burglary as well stabbing deaths of for college students. Will
receive life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We talked a lot about that case yesterday, and I
heard a podcast later in the afternoon about a couple
of lawyers talking about the case, specifically why prosecutors came
up with this plea deal, apparently without going to the
families of the victims beforehand, about why they would want
to do that, why.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
They thought that was the best course of action.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And one of the lawyers had the opinion that the
state of Idaho and this prosecutor's office specifically didn't want
to have anything to do with this case from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It was too much, it was too big.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
The state of Idaho didn't want to have the school,
University of Idaho, didn't want to.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Have anything to bring another office in that can handle
it well.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And that's the part that doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It seems like the people in that part of the
state want this guy drawn and quartered. I mean, how
could you not want this guy put to death for
this brute premeditated, calculated murder or murderers, I should say,
and think that you're gonna maintain the support of your constituents,
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I mean, have to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Were the alphas. I mean, who feels good about saying
to anybody, oh, we can't handle this case. What are
you talking about that's your job. It's what you do.
I don't care if you're in a town with population three,
go do your job.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It would be it would be interesting to see if
the judge changes anything. The judge has to sign off
on a plea deal like this, and I would be
curious to see. I don't know what kind of leeway
the judge would have, but the suggestion of you need
to include some things in here for the families, things
like an explanation potential you have this guy explain why
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he did what he did or how he did what
he did, or wear the murder weapon. Is some some
amount of closure that you would give to the families
that they would otherwise parents Right now? The deal doesn't
require any.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I don't think you get that. That would be
very frustrating. I you know, once in a while we'll
mention a story that makes me feel really old and
not I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Say cool, but hip.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Did you hear what's going on outside on the streets
of Manhattan right now where a bunch of folks are
celebrating the Diddy verdict or non verdict. I should say,
a bunch of people out there have busted out baby oil.
They're rubbing it on themselves. You've got women taking off
their tops, breasts out of the tops. The hell are
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we doing? Or am I just an old fuddy duddy?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
How do you okay?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Now, celebrate that?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I can understand if you celebrate, Like we talked about
at the top of the show, there are appears to
be people who are critical of the US attorney there
in the Southern District of New York who brought these
charges because they over charged, they went a bit too
far in terms of trying to get this guy, but
they felt they had to do something because of the
egregious nature of what he did to Cassie Ventura in
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that video on the in the Intercontinental Hotel here in
La Well, and I understand, I'm outraged by that. Like
that's why I said, this guy's a monster and he's
got zero redeeming qualities for me. Even if that's even
if you think he was completely innocent of racketeering or
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sex trafficking, you know, he's a bad person.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, So how do you know what?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How do you forgive that? And as a woman, how.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Are you celebrating in the streets like vulnerable women who
would be susceptible to having sex with men that they
don't know while other men watch like why are we
celebrating that?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Different world. There is a study that accounts unsheltered populations
in three LA neighborhoods a skid Row, Hollywood, and Venice,
and they found good news, a fifteen percent decrease in
the population last year overall compared to a year earlier.
They say that, however, the people who remain on the
streets were more vulnerable and harder for outreach organizations to serve.
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There was this is big. They found there was a
forty nine percent reduction in the number of people living
unsheltered in Hollywood, twenty two percent reduction in Venice. Skid
Row did not shrink at all. They say that a
key reason for the reductions is program are programs like
Mayor Karen Bass's signature program Inside Safe, which is just
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a boondoggle for all the people with their hands in
that bank account. But that is one that offers motel
vouchers to people living in encampments. But again it's like,
what does that really mean? You give a homeless person
a free night at a motel Hell yeah, hook me
up with a free room, get my friends together, get
a little fentanyl, get a little uh you know what
(06:08):
I mean. Like you're essentially giving you know, teenagers free
hotel rooms with no rules. I don't know how it works, honestly,
maybe there are rules, but anyway. The report notes that
many of the people that remain outside, living on the
streets are what they're now calling rough sleepers. Does that
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mean they talk in their sleep? Are they sleepwalkers? They
toss in turn? No, rough sleepers means that they don't
have a tent or.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
A vehicle, so they're just out in the under.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They're under the stars, beautiful out. I'd like to live
under the stars.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well, and I'm curious to I'm curious to know.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What your parents lived under the stars. Your parents parents
were rough sleepers their entire adult lives.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, for a very long time. That's what That's what
they did, is they slept outside because.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's beautiful and you can see the stars in that
part of the state.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They said that these rough sleepers make up about forty
two percent of the Again, these the euphemisms they use
the unsheltered population. Forty two percent of them are rough sleepers.
That's up from thirty percent just a few years ago.
And there were more rough sleepers than tent dwellers for
the first time last year in the area that the
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rand people looked at in this new context that says
that they're living rough, they're totally exposed to the elements.
The thing that makes the rough sleeping population is that
they have the highest level of needs no shelter whatsoever,
and also the most socially isolated.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go. Let's let's
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Let's talk about the fact that when we refer to
homeless people, there is a giant swath of humanity that
is either addled by drugs, addled by some sort of
mental health crisis, or addled by a very deadly mixture
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of the two of those things together. This is not
a housing cost issue. This is not mean landlords raising
rent on people who are just scraping by, and then
this is the result of it. These people are the
absolute most vulnerable population that's out there on the streets,
and we want to come up with fun names like
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rough sleeping or unsheltered or unhoused.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It does them no.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Service to come up thing out Yeah, to come up
with cute little euphemisms for what it is that they're
doing and living through.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You soften living on the street. People are going to
live on the street longer. It's just the way it's
going to work, all right. Coming up next Best Places
to Camp, Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Coming up later in the show, we will tackle cheese
turning your dreams into nightmares. I feel like if I
eat anything close to bedtime, I have weird dreams. Is
that other people too?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think that's pretty common. You're supposed to You're supposed
to stop eating. Uh, I don't know how. I don't
know what the time would be. But if I don't know,
if you if bedtime's ten o'clock, you're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I like to eat in bed like I like to eat. Yeah,
I like to eat crackers. I like to eat ice cream.
It's cozy. Oh psh. When I was visiting friends in
(09:45):
the in the mountains over the weekend, and uh, you know,
Henry was there and he's three and a half and
and when I met, I made a bad call. I said, like, oh,
we have ice cream right in the ho else and
uh and and and Henry's dad was like, yeah, but
let's not call it or something like that, kind of
(10:07):
like intimated, like let's not bring up ice cream in
front of the toddler, you idiot, yea and a toddler, right,
So I called it math glass, and I said, oh,
are we gonna have math class? Like so we would
refer to ice cream. We're having ice cream as math
glass anyway. Yeah, there is something right Keana, like it
(10:29):
feels good to eat in bed sometimes. Yeah, like nothing messy.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Is something that I could put in a bowl, right,
like not a plate like.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I now like I'll put my crackers in a bowl. Yeah,
because I'm like reading or whatever. And I don't know
why are you being so quiet.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Gary, Because I can't remember the last time I will
I have eaten ice cream in bed before. And I
want to say the probably the last time I did
that was when my wife was pregnant and we would
eat everything, anything and everything we could. Yeah, there's something
about ice as much weight as she did when she
was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
There's there's something that you did not did you?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I was up over two bills, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But not. I mean, I don't know how much how
much weight do you gain when you're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Uh, I'd have to double check. I think my wife
gained twenty five pounds maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Feel like that's low. I feel like that's on the
low end.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
She's going to correct me. But I would say somewhere
in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But there's somebody eating ice cream in bed. That just
is so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, especially if you're pregnant, like you could just set
the bowl on your belly and for me or if
you're not, if you're not pregnant, you can set the
bowl on your belly and enjoy that whole thing. Hey,
we do have a feed. I don't know if you're
interested in the uh Brian Coberger trial there in Boise, Idaho,
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or the hearing, I should say, not trial. He's appearing
in court today for that plea hearing, and we've got it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I just don't know what's it's just the judge essentially
decide to sign off on the on the plea agreement, right, Yeah,
I'm not sure what else that hearing entails.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It is just the judge speaking so far that we've seen,
but we'll keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
On it see if something. If something comes up.
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Speaker 1 (12:53):
So some of the families are in the courtroom and
I'll be interested to see it. Won't be the DA's
office probably setting up the podium and microphone outside this
hearing for the families. Since the families are pissed off
with the plea deal arrangement. They wanted this thing to
go to trial. They didn't want the death penalty off
the table. From what we've heard, but there'll be some
lawyer out there that's going to see an opportunity in
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this for publicity that will do that. I mean, I
bet you're going to hear from the angry families after
this hearing. No doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The story that we were talking about this RAND report
that described that homelessness has actually dropped dramatically in places
like Hollywood and Venice, about a fifteen percent decrease in
the population last year compared two a year earlier, but
also the increase of those people that are considered rough sleepers,
those people who are not intents or cars or under
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some sort of shelter. And I thought there was an
interesting point about this. One of the people that was
working on this study, Lewis Abramson, said the shift into
the rough sleeping where people are out and about, present
some tactical, logistical, clinical challenges and said that not only
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do they have that greater health risks because they're obviously
out exposed to the elements, it's harder for service providers.
Think all of the groups or churches or agencies that
would go out and try to find and give homeless
people shelter or medicine or care, whatever, said, now these
people are spread out over a bigger geography, and this
is where the key is. Now an outreach worker has
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to traverse a larger part of the city in order
to see the same number of people, which makes them
less efficient in engaging people. And again, he's just stating
a fact. He's not talking about one policy over the other.
But you could see people using that fact as a
way to encourage areas where homeless people would gather. And
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one of the things that we've seen the general population
of LA is upset.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
When that happens.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When you have encampments where people group together in an
abandoned parking lot or an empty lot, or under an
overpass or something like that. We push back against that.
And he's almost suggests he's not suggesting, he's saying that
in those environments, in places like that, it's going to
be easier for them to It's a target rich environment
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for service providers for homeless people, which I thought was
kind of a weird way to think about it. But
they also said, this is a RAND Corporation study, and
RAND researchers noted they counted significantly more people in their
studies than the LA Homeless Services Authority did in its
annual count of the same areas. Now one of them
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has a dog in the fight and one of them doesn't.
LASSA needs to show some sort of progress to continue
its funding. And then when the RAND Corporation comes in,
they say, yet, no, there's all kinds of homeless people
around here that you guys didn't even count. So just
the discrepancy between the two I thought was pretty telling. Tonight,
(16:07):
by the way, Dodgers taken on the White Sox at
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Speaker 3 (16:26):
Next.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, a couple segments from now, we're going to talk
about what's going on at that Dodgers game tonight. Because
Clayton Kershaw could hit a milestone that very few pitchers have,
and he could do so in a Dodger's uniform. Every
one of his strikeouts has come while he's been playing
for the Dodgers, obviously, so we'll talk about that a
little bit later.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Fall asleep, just taking a shower. I thought I felt
an earthquake this morning, actually, but I don't think there
was one. So maybe Shannon preemptively, you know, she's taking
the shower again like she did yesterday, just in case. Yeah,
it's possible.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
When we come back, we'll talk about AI note takers
on those just mind numbing zoom calls and Microsoft teams
calls that we all have to go on.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We'll do that next.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, fort forts, and we forget this about forts when
we're forty five and building them. Sometimes they collapse. Oh,
sometimes they're not built to sustain you know, life, adult
humans and adult humans. They collapse and they knock out
the chords that connect Wi fi.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh, and then you have to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The fort It's a whole thing. It's part of the
fun of fording, but for its forting. But let's not
remember they do they do they do fall.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Down, Yes, they do. Well.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Ironically, when we were talking about the homeless.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We will rebuild.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We will rebuild them.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
We will be stronger A couple of updates on the
big court cases that are going on today. In Ada
County District Court in Boise, the judge in the Brian
Coberger case just asked Brian Coberger about this plea deal
that he is in and he said, I plead guilty
because I am guilty, and he described the judge went
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through to describe the repercussions of the guilty please, et cetera,
that he's giving up his right to face his accusers
and things like that. So that is in the midst
of going on right now in Boise, Idaho.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He doesn't have to face his accusers. That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's what I mean. Yeah, and that's probably that's what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You mentioned the families there, prosecution and the families, they're
going to get a fistfight in the hallway. I mean,
I hearing at the very least Steve gunn call this
or gun solve, the father of Kaylee, one of the
three girls that was killed, four kids altogether, but one
of the three girls. He has been blasting from the beginning.
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He has been blasting the prosecution in the way that
they've handled this case, and when at least his family
was surprised by the plea deal. He wasn't holding anything
back and he's going to go after these guys today.
I assume if they speak to the media after this
hearing today. The other court case, of course, was the
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two guilty verdicts and three acquittals on different charges for
Sean Diddy Combs. Cassie Ventura was one of the women
who accused him and was the centerpiece of the federal
case against Seawan Combs because she was in that video
where he can be seen dragging her kicking her in
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the hotel here in Los Angeles from many years ago.
Her attorney has come out with a statement and said
the entire criminal process started when our client, Cassie Ventura
had the courage to file her civil complaint in November
of twenty three. Although the jury did not find Combs
guilty of sex trafficking Cassi beyond a reasonable doubt, she
paved the way for a jury to find him guilty
of transportation to engage in prostitution. And that's two counts
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that he was found guilty of transportation to engage in
prostitution in connection with flying Cassie Ventura across state lines.
And then another ex girlfriend. She testified under a fake
name Jane. So those were the two counts that he
was found guilty of.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, this is some AI that I think I can
get behind. People are sending AI to meetings to take
notes instead of having to go to said meetings.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I love it. Go ahead, I love that idea.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I was in a Zoom meeting Zoom one of the
things yesterday and I had a hard time staying awake.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What meeting was this?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well it doesn't matter, but it's just it was a.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Was it work related?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, Yeah, Well here's I can't. I have a real
hard time with any Zoom meeting. I like to be
face to face in a room with people. Have I
had a problem with it five years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I still have a.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Problem with the Zoom or the team's meetings as much
as people. You may not like people, or being in
a room or having face to face contact. There's a
lot to be said about having that.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, I am the idea that you would have an
AI for. The Washington Post points out that this guy,
Clifton Sellers, had a Zoom meeting last month. Six people
on the call, six humans, I should say on the call.
Ten used note taking apps powered by AI to record, transcribe,
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and summarize the meeting. That almost I was just going
to say, that sounds heavenly. That sounds we've had to
sit through and granted we don't. Our job is not normal.
Our job doesn't come with the usual I should say,
it doesn't come with the usual volume of mundane office stuff,
but there is some of it, and those times when
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we have had to sit through meetings, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What percentage of meetings need to be meetings?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Also a great point.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, do people have meetings just so they can
say they can account for part of their day? Yeah,
I gotta believe that's part of it, because there's so
many meetings that and I'm not talking about us sometimes
people in my life that have different jobs where it
just sounds like that didn't need to be a meeting.
You know, it's a whole. It could have been an email,
could have been a text, whatever. But honestly, there's truth
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to that. At how many meetings are scheduled just to
say you're working, you know what I mean, as opposed
to spending the forty seconds or whatever to send the
email to a group or what have you to get
a ball rolling on something. It's crazy to me, and
I understand the frustration. You know, there's this other thing
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about meetings where we are humans and we're going to
human that's what we're going to do. And there are
humans who are programmed to have to hear themselves speak,
and some meetings, everyone's got to chime in. Everyone's got
to get in there to put in their two cents
or just to hear themselves speak.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Or what have you.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
We used to have a rule years ago when Chris
Little would hold a meeting in the newsroom, and we
had a rule amongst us that like, no questions, no speaking,
We're going to get out of there. You know, we're
going to get in there, we're going to listen, we're
gonna smile, we're gonna nod, we're going to do the things.
But no extra questions, no extra talking.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And no.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
That never worked, by the way. Never there was always
someone someone.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Who had to say something that have to make a
name for themselves or they got to get attention. It's
just got to make a joke. That's the other thing
in our business. It's awful. Everyone has to have attention
and be funny and make jokes and stuff, and it
just it just kills time.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just kills time. That's now.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
The other thing is that when someone who is human
is trying to make sure that they're engaged with the
other humans on the call, they'll say something like how
does that sound?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Or do you know what that is?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Or I mean just really basic the mundane questions just
to elicit some response and make sure that you know
you're not slobbering all over your keyboard or something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Do you even know how to?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Would you know if I told you we have a
Zoom call this afternoon, how you would employ an AI
note taker?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
No? Yeah. See.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Also, if this person who wrote up this article knew
that there were ten people on the call that used
AI note takers, then everybody knows you're using an AI
note taker. I mean, we had a Zoom call last week?
Was it? Where you weren't on the screen. So there
was part of me that believed that you were using
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an AI note taker because you didn't use a screen,
used the show logo for your face. But then you
spoke and I realized that you had not just sent
in an AI note taker.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I would you rather look at the I have.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Why didn't you use that? Why didn't use the camera
because I was in the car. It doesn't matter. I
was in the car.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, I know, and I saw you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So why didn't you use it?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Because they would rather look at you than me?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
That is not true. What they to me for they
want to see your face?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It is true. Well, and you just use the When
you just use the logo, sometimes it can come across
a little antisocial.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I just didn't want to be I didn't want to
distract people while I was you Is he driving?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
What's you?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Can't be greedy with your face? You know God gave
you all of that. You should share it with everybody
you possibly can.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You're right, I need to get this thing out more spread.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The love of your face?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Got it okay? When we come back.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A couple of baseball headlines, one of them a huge
one at Dodger Stadium potentially tonight. Clayton Kershaw is going
for three thousand strikeouts, not in one game.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That would be a record.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I watched Clayton Kershaw pitch from time to time, and
I feel pain. It hurtsh knowing all the thing his
back has been through and everything. It's just I just
I cringe.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I wouldn't be surprised if Clayton Kershaw tonight strikes out
three people and then asks Dave Obbs to take him
out of the game and retirement.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You could be on your death bet and not asked
to be taken out of a game. But I hear
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It hurts.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Would you ever ask to be taken out of a game?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I've never had surgeries like he has.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I just don't think you would. I don't think
men have it in them or women.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
We'll see, Gary, don't mean to other people. Whatever you are,
there are out there.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
If you identify as a macaw that you don't want
to be taken out of the game either.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Forty prosecuting attorney in Idaho is right now going through
the evidence that he would have presented in the Brian
Coberger case.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
This is the case of the four.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
University of Idaho students who were brutally murdered in the
middle of the night, and this one time criminology student
who is accused of the murders has now pleaded guilty
in that case.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Apparently the judge has been getting a lot of calls.
The judge began the proceedings asking for people in the
courtroom not to disrupt the proceedings. He's chastising the public
for calling his office to dispute the plea deal. He
says he hasn't read or listened to any of the
messages left with his office. It's calling everybody. Yeah, I mean,
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I get it again.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I do expect to see some sort of a news
conference afterwards with the families of the victims.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I doubt well.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Prosecutors may take to the microphones, but they're going to
get shouted down, I think by the people who are
there watching all this. Tonight, Dodgers take on the White Sox.
Clayton Kershaw is going to pitch for the Dodgers, and
he sits at two nine and ninety seven strikeouts in
his career. Three more strikeouts tonight, he would be the
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only He would be the twentieth pitcher in baseball history,
which goes back one hundred and forty years, the twentieth
pitcher ever to strike out three thousand in his career.
He would join Steve Carlton, Randy Johnson, C. C. Sabathia.
Most important, he'd be only the third to produce the
three thousand strikeouts in one uniform. That is one of
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the rarities that you see in any major sport today
is somebody who plays for the and for one team
their entire career. And obviously he's done that with the Dodgers.
Walter Johnson and Bob Gibson also did it when they
came up with three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean he's been with the Dodgers since he was
twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I remember watching him when he first started pitching and
thinking it was just when I just when I moved
to LA maybe the year after, so a couple of
years after, and I remember thinking like, oh, got to
remember this. You're seeing something special with this Clayton Kershaw pitching.
And here we are now thinking the same thing, well
not the same thing, it's very different, but another great
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picture and show Oh hey a Tawny, you're watching something special.
You remember this time?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, And it's one of those things, like I said,
it's one. He would be one of twenty pitchers who's
ever done it. One of those guys is still playing
Justin Verlander, although his career is in it's in the
winter of its time. But he's got thirty four hundred
and seventy one strikeouts and he says it's very cool.
I think the game should celebrate stuff like that, like
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some pitcher reaching three thousand strikeouts and people like him,
because it's clearly going away. There are very few of
us left and it's incumbent. Listen, the Dodgers know this,
major League Baseball knows this. The Chicago White Sox are
very well aware of this. If this happens, the game stops,
I mean they will do something specific at the moment
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that it happens.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
There was a write up in USA today Clayton Kershaw's
first strikeout victim still in awe as Dodgers ace hits
three thousand k's, they write it up. There was actually
laughter in the Saint Louis Cardinals clubhouse that morning at
Dodger Stadium before facing the Dodgers. The Cardinals didn't have
any tape of the twenty year old kid it was
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going to make his major league debut that afternoon. It
was May twenty fifth, two thousand and eight. No one
had any scouting reports no one faced him in the minors,
so they began asking each other if anything, if anyone
knew anything about the Dodgers prize prospect. Someone said they
heard he could be the next Rick Ankle. Who's that?
I don't know who that is?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Rick Ang, Keel and Keel.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
No way, there's no way his stuff could be as
good as Rick ang kills before he became a position player.
So Shoemaker says, we were laughing that someone thought he
could have a curve ball as good as that guy's.
Shoemaker was leading off of the Cardinals step to the
plate with a game plan. He said, I figured I
was going to ambush him and welcome him to the
big leagues. The first pitch and elevated fastball. It was
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harder and faster than I thought. I swung and missed.
Then he threw a curve ball. It was something different.
It was like nothing I had ever seen before. And
then well I struck out. Seventeen years later, seventeen years
and one month. Actually, that strikeout, immortalized in baseball history,
was Clayton Kershaw's first career strikeout, making Shoemaker his first victim.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There, I wanted to point out one other goofy thing.
Bobbleheads have become massive over the course of the last
couple of decades, where teams give them away as promotional prizes. Tonight,
I believe it is the Red Sox are giving away
a Raphael Devers bobblehead, even though he was traded.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
To the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I mean, once you buy forty thousand bobbleheads, you kind
of got to give him away at some point. That's weird,
all right. Up next all of our swamp watch stuff.
We got how to make sleep even better and a
very good, long term feel good story coming up next hour.
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sean Diddy Combs got a split verdict today, acquitted on
some of the bigger charges but convicted of a lesser
sex crimes charge. The jury today found him guilty of
two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution, but acquitted
him on the top charge of racketeering and the sex
trafficking counts against him.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And then Brian Coberger in court right now actually to
make his controversial plea that we spoke about yesterday. This
plea allows him to avoid the death penalty. Judge still
has to approve the agreement. That's what's happening today there
in Idaho. As we talked about yesterday, the call. The
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deal calls for him to plead guilty to four counts
of first degree murder for that slaughter and that off
campus house at the University of Idaho one count of
burglary as well stabbing deaths of for college students. Will
receive life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We talked a lot about that case yesterday, and I
heard a podcast later in the afternoon about a couple
of lawyers talking about the case, specifically why prosecutors came
up with this plea deal, apparently without going to the
families of the victims beforehand, about why they would want
to do that, why.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
They thought that was the best course of action.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And one of the lawyers had the opinion that the
state of Idaho and this prosecutor's office specifically didn't want
to have anything to do with this case from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It was too much, it was too big.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
The state of Idaho didn't want to have the school,
University of Idaho, didn't want to.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Have anything to bring another office in that can handle
it well.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And that's the part that doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It seems like the people in that part of the
state want this guy drawn and quartered. I mean, how
could you not want this guy put to death for
this brute premeditated, calculated murder or murderers, I should say,
and think that you're gonna maintain the support of your constituents,
(02:10):
I mean, have to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Were the alphas. I mean, who feels good about saying
to anybody, oh, we can't handle this case. What are
you talking about that's your job. It's what you do.
I don't care if you're in a town with population three,
go do your job.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It would be it would be interesting to see if
the judge changes anything. The judge has to sign off
on a plea deal like this, and I would be
curious to see. I don't know what kind of leeway
the judge would have, but the suggestion of you need
to include some things in here for the families, things
like an explanation potential you have this guy explain why
(02:49):
he did what he did or how he did what
he did, or wear the murder weapon. Is some some
amount of closure that you would give to the families
that they would otherwise parents Right now? The deal doesn't
require any.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I don't think you get that. That would be
very frustrating. I you know, once in a while we'll
mention a story that makes me feel really old and
not I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Say cool, but hip.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Did you hear what's going on outside on the streets
of Manhattan right now where a bunch of folks are
celebrating the Diddy verdict or non verdict. I should say,
a bunch of people out there have busted out baby oil.
They're rubbing it on themselves. You've got women taking off
their tops, breasts out of the tops. The hell are
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we doing? Or am I just an old fuddy duddy?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
How do you okay?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Now, celebrate that?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I can understand if you celebrate, Like we talked about
at the top of the show, there are appears to
be people who are critical of the US attorney there
in the Southern District of New York who brought these
charges because they over charged, they went a bit too
far in terms of trying to get this guy, but
they felt they had to do something because of the
egregious nature of what he did to Cassie Ventura in
(04:10):
that video on the in the Intercontinental Hotel here in
La Well, and I understand, I'm outraged by that. Like
that's why I said, this guy's a monster and he's
got zero redeeming qualities for me. Even if that's even
if you think he was completely innocent of racketeering or
(04:31):
sex trafficking, you know, he's a bad person.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, So how do you know what?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How do you forgive that? And as a woman, how.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Are you celebrating in the streets like vulnerable women who
would be susceptible to having sex with men that they
don't know while other men watch like why are we
celebrating that?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Different world. There is a study that accounts unsheltered populations
in three LA neighborhoods a skid Row, Hollywood, and Venice,
and they found good news, a fifteen percent decrease in
the population last year overall compared to a year earlier.
They say that, however, the people who remain on the
streets were more vulnerable and harder for outreach organizations to serve.
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There was this is big. They found there was a
forty nine percent reduction in the number of people living
unsheltered in Hollywood, twenty two percent reduction in Venice. Skid
Row did not shrink at all. They say that a
key reason for the reductions is program are programs like
Mayor Karen Bass's signature program Inside Safe, which is just
(05:47):
a boondoggle for all the people with their hands in
that bank account. But that is one that offers motel
vouchers to people living in encampments. But again it's like,
what does that really mean? You give a homeless person
a free night at a motel Hell yeah, hook me
up with a free room, get my friends together, get
a little fentanyl, get a little uh you know what
(06:08):
I mean. Like you're essentially giving you know, teenagers free
hotel rooms with no rules. I don't know how it works, honestly,
maybe there are rules, but anyway. The report notes that
many of the people that remain outside, living on the
streets are what they're now calling rough sleepers. Does that
(06:29):
mean they talk in their sleep? Are they sleepwalkers? They
toss in turn? No, rough sleepers means that they don't
have a tent or.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
A vehicle, so they're just out in the under.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They're under the stars, beautiful out. I'd like to live
under the stars.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well, and I'm curious to I'm curious to know.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What your parents lived under the stars. Your parents parents
were rough sleepers their entire adult lives.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, for a very long time. That's what That's what
they did, is they slept outside because.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's beautiful and you can see the stars in that
part of the state.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They said that these rough sleepers make up about forty
two percent of the Again, these the euphemisms they use
the unsheltered population. Forty two percent of them are rough sleepers.
That's up from thirty percent just a few years ago.
And there were more rough sleepers than tent dwellers for
the first time last year in the area that the
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rand people looked at in this new context that says
that they're living rough, they're totally exposed to the elements.
The thing that makes the rough sleeping population is that
they have the highest level of needs no shelter whatsoever,
and also the most socially isolated.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go. Let's let's
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Let's talk about the fact that when we refer to
homeless people, there is a giant swath of humanity that
is either addled by drugs, addled by some sort of
mental health crisis, or addled by a very deadly mixture
(08:06):
of the two of those things together. This is not
a housing cost issue. This is not mean landlords raising
rent on people who are just scraping by, and then
this is the result of it. These people are the
absolute most vulnerable population that's out there on the streets,
and we want to come up with fun names like
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rough sleeping or unsheltered or unhoused.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It does them no.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Service to come up thing out Yeah, to come up
with cute little euphemisms for what it is that they're
doing and living through.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You soften living on the street. People are going to
live on the street longer. It's just the way it's
going to work, all right. Coming up next Best Places
to Camp, Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Coming up later in the show, we will tackle cheese
turning your dreams into nightmares. I feel like if I
eat anything close to bedtime, I have weird dreams. Is
that other people too?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think that's pretty common. You're supposed to You're supposed
to stop eating. Uh, I don't know how. I don't
know what the time would be. But if I don't know,
if you if bedtime's ten o'clock, you're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I like to eat in bed like I like to eat. Yeah,
I like to eat crackers. I like to eat ice cream.
It's cozy. Oh psh. When I was visiting friends in
(09:45):
the in the mountains over the weekend, and uh, you know,
Henry was there and he's three and a half and
and when I met, I made a bad call. I said, like, oh,
we have ice cream right in the ho else and
uh and and and Henry's dad was like, yeah, but
let's not call it or something like that, kind of
(10:07):
like intimated, like let's not bring up ice cream in
front of the toddler, you idiot, yea and a toddler, right,
So I called it math glass, and I said, oh,
are we gonna have math class? Like so we would
refer to ice cream. We're having ice cream as math
glass anyway. Yeah, there is something right Keana, like it
(10:29):
feels good to eat in bed sometimes. Yeah, like nothing messy.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Is something that I could put in a bowl, right,
like not a plate like.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I now like I'll put my crackers in a bowl. Yeah,
because I'm like reading or whatever. And I don't know
why are you being so quiet.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Gary, Because I can't remember the last time I will
I have eaten ice cream in bed before. And I
want to say the probably the last time I did
that was when my wife was pregnant and we would
eat everything, anything and everything we could. Yeah, there's something
about ice as much weight as she did when she
was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
There's there's something that you did not did you?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I was up over two bills, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But not. I mean, I don't know how much how
much weight do you gain when you're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Uh, I'd have to double check. I think my wife
gained twenty five pounds maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Feel like that's low. I feel like that's on the
low end.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
She's going to correct me. But I would say somewhere
in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But there's somebody eating ice cream in bed. That just
is so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, especially if you're pregnant, like you could just set
the bowl on your belly and for me or if
you're not, if you're not pregnant, you can set the
bowl on your belly and enjoy that whole thing. Hey,
we do have a feed. I don't know if you're
interested in the uh Brian Coberger trial there in Boise, Idaho,
(11:50):
or the hearing, I should say, not trial. He's appearing
in court today for that plea hearing, and we've got it.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I just don't know what's it's just the judge essentially
decide to sign off on the on the plea agreement, right, Yeah,
I'm not sure what else that hearing entails.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It is just the judge speaking so far that we've seen,
but we'll keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
On it see if something. If something comes up.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
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Speaker 1 (12:53):
So some of the families are in the courtroom and
I'll be interested to see it. Won't be the DA's
office probably setting up the podium and microphone outside this
hearing for the families. Since the families are pissed off
with the plea deal arrangement. They wanted this thing to
go to trial. They didn't want the death penalty off
the table. From what we've heard, but there'll be some
lawyer out there that's going to see an opportunity in
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this for publicity that will do that. I mean, I
bet you're going to hear from the angry families after
this hearing. No doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The story that we were talking about this RAND report
that described that homelessness has actually dropped dramatically in places
like Hollywood and Venice, about a fifteen percent decrease in
the population last year compared two a year earlier, but
also the increase of those people that are considered rough sleepers,
those people who are not intents or cars or under
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some sort of shelter. And I thought there was an
interesting point about this. One of the people that was
working on this study, Lewis Abramson, said the shift into
the rough sleeping where people are out and about, present
some tactical, logistical, clinical challenges and said that not only
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do they have that greater health risks because they're obviously
out exposed to the elements, it's harder for service providers.
Think all of the groups or churches or agencies that
would go out and try to find and give homeless
people shelter or medicine or care, whatever, said, now these
people are spread out over a bigger geography, and this
is where the key is. Now an outreach worker has
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to traverse a larger part of the city in order
to see the same number of people, which makes them
less efficient in engaging people. And again, he's just stating
a fact. He's not talking about one policy over the other.
But you could see people using that fact as a
way to encourage areas where homeless people would gather. And
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one of the things that we've seen the general population
of LA is upset.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
When that happens.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When you have encampments where people group together in an
abandoned parking lot or an empty lot, or under an
overpass or something like that. We push back against that.
And he's almost suggests he's not suggesting, he's saying that
in those environments, in places like that, it's going to
be easier for them to It's a target rich environment
(15:24):
for service providers for homeless people, which I thought was
kind of a weird way to think about it. But
they also said, this is a RAND Corporation study, and
RAND researchers noted they counted significantly more people in their
studies than the LA Homeless Services Authority did in its
annual count of the same areas. Now one of them
(15:47):
has a dog in the fight and one of them doesn't.
LASSA needs to show some sort of progress to continue
its funding. And then when the RAND Corporation comes in,
they say, yet, no, there's all kinds of homeless people
around here that you guys didn't even count. So just
the discrepancy between the two I thought was pretty telling. Tonight,
(16:07):
by the way, Dodgers taken on the White Sox at
Dodgers Stadium, first pitch coming up at seven o'clock. You
can listen to all the Dodgers games on AM five
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LA Sports.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Next.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, a couple segments from now, we're going to talk
about what's going on at that Dodgers game tonight. Because
Clayton Kershaw could hit a milestone that very few pitchers have,
and he could do so in a Dodger's uniform. Every
one of his strikeouts has come while he's been playing
for the Dodgers, obviously, so we'll talk about that a
little bit later.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Fall asleep, just taking a shower. I thought I felt
an earthquake this morning, actually, but I don't think there
was one. So maybe Shannon preemptively, you know, she's taking
the shower again like she did yesterday, just in case. Yeah,
it's possible.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
When we come back, we'll talk about AI note takers
on those just mind numbing zoom calls and Microsoft teams
calls that we all have to go on.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We'll do that next.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, fort forts, and we forget this about forts when
we're forty five and building them. Sometimes they collapse. Oh,
sometimes they're not built to sustain you know, life, adult
humans and adult humans. They collapse and they knock out
the chords that connect Wi fi.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh, and then you have to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The fort It's a whole thing. It's part of the
fun of fording, but for its forting. But let's not
remember they do they do they do fall.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Down, Yes, they do. Well.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Ironically, when we were talking about the homeless.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We will rebuild.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We will rebuild them.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
We will be stronger A couple of updates on the
big court cases that are going on today. In Ada
County District Court in Boise, the judge in the Brian
Coberger case just asked Brian Coberger about this plea deal
that he is in and he said, I plead guilty
because I am guilty, and he described the judge went
(18:27):
through to describe the repercussions of the guilty please, et cetera,
that he's giving up his right to face his accusers
and things like that. So that is in the midst
of going on right now in Boise, Idaho.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He doesn't have to face his accusers. That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's what I mean. Yeah, and that's probably that's what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You mentioned the families there, prosecution and the families, they're
going to get a fistfight in the hallway. I mean,
I hearing at the very least Steve gunn call this
or gun solve, the father of Kaylee, one of the
three girls that was killed, four kids altogether, but one
of the three girls. He has been blasting from the beginning.
(19:10):
He has been blasting the prosecution in the way that
they've handled this case, and when at least his family
was surprised by the plea deal. He wasn't holding anything
back and he's going to go after these guys today.
I assume if they speak to the media after this
hearing today. The other court case, of course, was the
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two guilty verdicts and three acquittals on different charges for
Sean Diddy Combs. Cassie Ventura was one of the women
who accused him and was the centerpiece of the federal
case against Seawan Combs because she was in that video
where he can be seen dragging her kicking her in
(19:52):
the hotel here in Los Angeles from many years ago.
Her attorney has come out with a statement and said
the entire criminal process started when our client, Cassie Ventura
had the courage to file her civil complaint in November
of twenty three. Although the jury did not find Combs
guilty of sex trafficking Cassi beyond a reasonable doubt, she
paved the way for a jury to find him guilty
of transportation to engage in prostitution. And that's two counts
(20:17):
that he was found guilty of transportation to engage in
prostitution in connection with flying Cassie Ventura across state lines.
And then another ex girlfriend. She testified under a fake
name Jane. So those were the two counts that he
was found guilty of.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, this is some AI that I think I can
get behind. People are sending AI to meetings to take
notes instead of having to go to said meetings.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I love it. Go ahead, I love that idea.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I was in a Zoom meeting Zoom one of the
things yesterday and I had a hard time staying awake.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What meeting was this?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well it doesn't matter, but it's just it was a.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Was it work related?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, Yeah, Well here's I can't. I have a real
hard time with any Zoom meeting. I like to be
face to face in a room with people. Have I
had a problem with it five years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I still have a.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Problem with the Zoom or the team's meetings as much
as people. You may not like people, or being in
a room or having face to face contact. There's a
lot to be said about having that.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, I am the idea that you would have an
AI for. The Washington Post points out that this guy,
Clifton Sellers, had a Zoom meeting last month. Six people
on the call, six humans, I should say on the call.
Ten used note taking apps powered by AI to record, transcribe,
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and summarize the meeting. That almost I was just going
to say, that sounds heavenly. That sounds we've had to
sit through and granted we don't. Our job is not normal.
Our job doesn't come with the usual I should say,
it doesn't come with the usual volume of mundane office stuff,
but there is some of it, and those times when
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we have had to sit through meetings, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What percentage of meetings need to be meetings?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Also a great point.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, do people have meetings just so they can
say they can account for part of their day? Yeah,
I gotta believe that's part of it, because there's so
many meetings that and I'm not talking about us sometimes
people in my life that have different jobs where it
just sounds like that didn't need to be a meeting.
You know, it's a whole. It could have been an email,
could have been a text, whatever. But honestly, there's truth
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to that. At how many meetings are scheduled just to
say you're working, you know what I mean, as opposed
to spending the forty seconds or whatever to send the
email to a group or what have you to get
a ball rolling on something. It's crazy to me, and
I understand the frustration. You know, there's this other thing
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about meetings where we are humans and we're going to
human that's what we're going to do. And there are
humans who are programmed to have to hear themselves speak,
and some meetings, everyone's got to chime in. Everyone's got
to get in there to put in their two cents
or just to hear themselves speak.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Or what have you.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
We used to have a rule years ago when Chris
Little would hold a meeting in the newsroom, and we
had a rule amongst us that like, no questions, no speaking,
We're going to get out of there. You know, we're
going to get in there, we're going to listen, we're
gonna smile, we're gonna nod, we're going to do the things.
But no extra questions, no extra talking.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And no.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
That never worked, by the way. Never there was always
someone someone.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Who had to say something that have to make a
name for themselves or they got to get attention. It's
just got to make a joke. That's the other thing
in our business. It's awful. Everyone has to have attention
and be funny and make jokes and stuff, and it
just it just kills time.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just kills time. That's now.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
The other thing is that when someone who is human
is trying to make sure that they're engaged with the
other humans on the call, they'll say something like how
does that sound?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Or do you know what that is?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Or I mean just really basic the mundane questions just
to elicit some response and make sure that you know
you're not slobbering all over your keyboard or something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Do you even know how to?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Would you know if I told you we have a
Zoom call this afternoon, how you would employ an AI
note taker?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
No? Yeah. See.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Also, if this person who wrote up this article knew
that there were ten people on the call that used
AI note takers, then everybody knows you're using an AI
note taker. I mean, we had a Zoom call last week?
Was it? Where you weren't on the screen. So there
was part of me that believed that you were using
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an AI note taker because you didn't use a screen,
used the show logo for your face. But then you
spoke and I realized that you had not just sent
in an AI note taker.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I would you rather look at the I have.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Why didn't you use that? Why didn't use the camera
because I was in the car. It doesn't matter. I
was in the car.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, I know, and I saw you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So why didn't you use it?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Because they would rather look at you than me?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
That is not true. What they to me for they
want to see your face?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It is true. Well, and you just use the When
you just use the logo, sometimes it can come across
a little antisocial.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Oh, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I just didn't want to be I didn't want to
distract people while I was you Is he driving?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
What's you?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Can't be greedy with your face? You know God gave
you all of that. You should share it with everybody
you possibly can.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You're right, I need to get this thing out more spread.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The love of your face?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Got it okay? When we come back.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A couple of baseball headlines, one of them a huge
one at Dodger Stadium potentially tonight. Clayton Kershaw is going
for three thousand strikeouts, not in one game.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That would be a record.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I watched Clayton Kershaw pitch from time to time, and
I feel pain. It hurtsh knowing all the thing his
back has been through and everything. It's just I just
I cringe.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I wouldn't be surprised if Clayton Kershaw tonight strikes out
three people and then asks Dave Obbs to take him
out of the game and retirement.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You could be on your death bet and not asked
to be taken out of a game. But I hear
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It hurts.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Would you ever ask to be taken out of a game?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I've never had surgeries like he has.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I just don't think you would. I don't think
men have it in them or women.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
We'll see, Gary, don't mean to other people. Whatever you are,
there are out there.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
If you identify as a macaw that you don't want
to be taken out of the game either.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Forty prosecuting attorney in Idaho is right now going through
the evidence that he would have presented in the Brian
Coberger case.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
This is the case of the four.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
University of Idaho students who were brutally murdered in the
middle of the night, and this one time criminology student
who is accused of the murders has now pleaded guilty
in that case.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Apparently the judge has been getting a lot of calls.
The judge began the proceedings asking for people in the
courtroom not to disrupt the proceedings. He's chastising the public
for calling his office to dispute the plea deal. He
says he hasn't read or listened to any of the
messages left with his office. It's calling everybody. Yeah, I mean,
(28:25):
I get it again.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I do expect to see some sort of a news
conference afterwards with the families of the victims.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I doubt well.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Prosecutors may take to the microphones, but they're going to
get shouted down, I think by the people who are
there watching all this. Tonight, Dodgers take on the White Sox.
Clayton Kershaw is going to pitch for the Dodgers, and
he sits at two nine and ninety seven strikeouts in
his career. Three more strikeouts tonight, he would be the
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only He would be the twentieth pitcher in baseball history,
which goes back one hundred and forty years, the twentieth
pitcher ever to strike out three thousand in his career.
He would join Steve Carlton, Randy Johnson, C. C. Sabathia.
Most important, he'd be only the third to produce the
three thousand strikeouts in one uniform. That is one of
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the rarities that you see in any major sport today
is somebody who plays for the and for one team
their entire career. And obviously he's done that with the Dodgers.
Walter Johnson and Bob Gibson also did it when they
came up with three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean he's been with the Dodgers since he was
twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I remember watching him when he first started pitching and
thinking it was just when I just when I moved
to LA maybe the year after, so a couple of
years after, and I remember thinking like, oh, got to
remember this. You're seeing something special with this Clayton Kershaw pitching.
And here we are now thinking the same thing, well
not the same thing, it's very different, but another great
(29:59):
picture and show Oh hey a Tawny, you're watching something special.
You remember this time?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, And it's one of those things, like I said,
it's one. He would be one of twenty pitchers who's
ever done it. One of those guys is still playing
Justin Verlander, although his career is in it's in the
winter of its time. But he's got thirty four hundred
and seventy one strikeouts and he says it's very cool.
I think the game should celebrate stuff like that, like
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some pitcher reaching three thousand strikeouts and people like him,
because it's clearly going away. There are very few of
us left and it's incumbent. Listen, the Dodgers know this,
major League Baseball knows this. The Chicago White Sox are
very well aware of this. If this happens, the game stops,
I mean they will do something specific at the moment
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that it happens.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
There was a write up in USA today Clayton Kershaw's
first strikeout victim still in awe as Dodgers ace hits
three thousand k's, they write it up. There was actually
laughter in the Saint Louis Cardinals clubhouse that morning at
Dodger Stadium before facing the Dodgers. The Cardinals didn't have
any tape of the twenty year old kid it was
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going to make his major league debut that afternoon. It
was May twenty fifth, two thousand and eight. No one
had any scouting reports no one faced him in the minors,
so they began asking each other if anything, if anyone
knew anything about the Dodgers prize prospect. Someone said they
heard he could be the next Rick Ankle. Who's that?
I don't know who that is?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Rick Ang, Keel and Keel.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
No way, there's no way his stuff could be as
good as Rick ang kills before he became a position player.
So Shoemaker says, we were laughing that someone thought he
could have a curve ball as good as that guy's.
Shoemaker was leading off of the Cardinals step to the
plate with a game plan. He said, I figured I
was going to ambush him and welcome him to the
big leagues. The first pitch and elevated fastball. It was
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harder and faster than I thought. I swung and missed.
Then he threw a curve ball. It was something different.
It was like nothing I had ever seen before. And
then well I struck out. Seventeen years later, seventeen years
and one month. Actually, that strikeout, immortalized in baseball history,
was Clayton Kershaw's first career strikeout, making Shoemaker his first victim.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There, I wanted to point out one other goofy thing.
Bobbleheads have become massive over the course of the last
couple of decades, where teams give them away as promotional prizes. Tonight,
I believe it is the Red Sox are giving away
a Raphael Devers bobblehead, even though he was traded.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
To the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I mean, once you buy forty thousand bobbleheads, you kind
of got to give him away at some point. That's weird,
all right. Up next all of our swamp watch stuff.
We got how to make sleep even better and a
very good, long term feel good story coming up next hour.
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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