May 8, 2025 • 30 mins
Cardinal Prevost becomes the first American pope, choosing the name Leo XIV. Sister creates AI video of slain brother to address his killer in court.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Pope Leo the fourteenth the Vicar
General of the Order of Saint Augustine of the Augustinians,
the thirteenth century religious order founded by Saint Augustine Francis.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Pope Francis, God Rest.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
His soul clearly had an eye on this man, Pope
Leo for years, moving him from the Augustinian leadership back
to Peru in twenty fourteen to serve as the administrator
later archbishop of the area there. He remained in that position,
acquired Peruvian citizenship in twenty fifteen. God, I love a
Peruvian too, man, Do not mess with a Peruvian anyway.
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Frances brought him back to Rome, to Rome, I guess
I should say, in twenty twenty three to assume the
presidency of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. So he
kept in regular contact with the Catholic hierarchy and that
part of the world that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Counts the most Catholics.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Really, he's kept a low public profile there since arriving
in Rome, but well known to the men who count
as the way I keep reading.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It, you mentioned he was brought to the Vatican a
couple of years ago. He becomes Popolio six, sorry the fourteenth,
the first American pontiff.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And we said it yesterday. I thought it would have.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Been almost an impossibility for there to be an American pope,
simply because the amount of power that America wields in general,
that the Church, that the cardinals would not that it
would be a negative necessarily, but there would be some
view some who viewed it as an opportunist move to
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have an American pope, because now, granted he doesn't represent
the United States of America, he represents Catholics, he represents
the Vatican, he represents the entire Church, but that it
is an American is not something that can be overlooked.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Youthful just sixty nine. He has been said to be
somebody of a good disposition. No matter how many problems
he has, he maintains good humor and joy, which is
nice that. According to a communications director for his old
diocese there in Peru, he says he remembers the cardinal
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rising each day having breakfast with the other priests. After
saying his morning prayers there.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
This is the story that is going to dominate today
for many parts of the world. It's even more important
than it is here in the United States, simply because
of our secularity for a large part. But there are
still thousands and thousands of people in Vatican City who
were there on this historic day, just hanging around. And again,
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Pop Leo made his speech, came out, blessed the crowd,
bless the Catholics around the world, and retreated into the
Sistine Chapel for whatever sort of.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Soiree they give a new pope.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Interesting that he spoke to the crowd in both Italian
and Spanish, no English, Italian, Spanish, and some Latin. The
last pope to take the name Leo was Leo the thirteenth,
an Italian who led the Church from eighteen seventy eight
to nineteen o three. That Leo softened the Church's confrontational
stance toward modern times, especially science and politics, laid the foundation,
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they say, for modern Catholic social thought, most famously with
his eighteen ninety one.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Scribe.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I guess you could call it because if I say
the Latin term for it, I'll butcher it and you
won't know what the hell I'm talking about, But he
addressed workers' rights and capitalism at the time.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Glad we know our limitations. We do.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
There's few things we do have going for us. Self
awareness is one of them.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And then a lot of questions surrounding this pope regarding continuation,
if there will be any of Pope Fancis's more progressive
look and softer stance when it comes to social issues.
We're not quite sure exactly what Pope Leo the fourteenth
is going to do. But that's what much much of
the discussion shall be over the course of the next
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couple of days.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So the way that the conclave goes, By the way,
this was the third round of voting for today for today, Yeah, okay,
so there was on the fourth vote.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's what we understand. If all we're doing is counting smokes.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The pageantry that goes on inside the secretive conclave. We
hear some secrets that have been leaked out about the
strict choreography dictated by Church law about how the votes
go down. Each cardinal writes his choice on a piece
of paper that is inscribed with the words in Latin,
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I elect as Supreme Pontiff coroach the altar one by one,
and they say, I call is my witnessed Christ, the
Lord who will be my judge. That my vote is
given to the one who, before God I think should
be elected. And then the folded ballot is placed on
a round plate and tipped into a silver and gold urn.
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And then, once cast, the ballots are opened one by
one by three different scrutineers, cardinals selected at random, who
write down the names and read them aloud. The scrutineer's
work is checked by other cardinals called revisers, and then
they add up the results of each round of balloting
rite on a separate sheet of paper, which is preserved
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in the papal archives. And then as the scrutineer reads
out each name, he pierces each ballot with a needle
through the word the Latin word that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Means let me find what it means, whereas.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I call his witness, so it's a term it basically
means I call his witness.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Is what they put the needle through.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And then all the ballots are then bound together with
the red and the bundles put aside and burned, and
the chapel stove along with the chemical that will produce
either the white or the black smoke.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And they only had to use the black smoke three times,
once yesterday, twice this morning, and then it was the
white smoke just before.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So interesting that the cardinals hear all the names, you know,
there's no secret balloting.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You hear the names.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So there's there's cardinals up there whose names were called
but didn't didn't make the final round.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And there may have been there may be cardinals that
are there whose names have been called multiple times. That's
true the course of the couple of different true. And
some of them don't want the job. You know, Benedict
didn't want the job, but this Pope seems to really
want the job.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, good for him. Or maybe he was crying tiers
of tears of fear, fear and such. I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay, this is again the big story of the day.
We will revisit a couple of times. It is going
to make its way into strange science that comes up
late in the show as well. But one of the
stories that we had to push just as we were
watching the new Pope is the sister of a murder
victim put together an AI video of her dead brother
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and played it as a victim statement in court.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Now victim impact statements, you can basically do whatever you
want during your victim impact statement. The way I first
read this story was it was played in court, and
I thought, in what world is AI going to be permissible?
And then it opened up all these other questions, like, well,
in this world, AI is going to make its way
into court rooms and it will be up to certain
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judges what is going to be permissible and what is
It's going to be a wild West world when it
comes to AI used.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We'll let you listen to some of the video that
again the sister made of her dead brother for the
victim impact statement.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (08:17):
We will stay on top of all the news coming
out of the Vatican, where an American pope for the
first time ever has.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Been PopEd, hoped, Pope Leo elected elected, Peace be with
you in his first words, offering that message of peace.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
They're very big on peace, the Augustinians. That is the
order of which he comes and that is the overriding
theme is to can't we all get along?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So that'll be nice?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think some of the things that he'll do right
away is ask some of his fellow cardinals to serve
with him in sort of their version of what would
be a presidential cabinet, so we might get some of
those names throughout the course of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Also, Stacey had the heartbreaking task preparing a victim impact
statement in court. This is for the man that was
being sentenced for shooting and killing her brother. Happened during
a road rage incident in twenty twenty one, and she
couldn't really figure out Stacy how to convey the loss
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that she felt losing her brother. The attorneys told Stacy
just try to bring him to life. So she had
this idea, what if I turned to AI.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, she had gone around and done the normal thing,
which is ask friends and family members to record statements
or write letters to the court on Chris's behalf in
order to I mean, in order to convince the judge
basically to sentence this guy to a maximum and at
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one point her husband, with experience using generative AI, I said,
let's do this for Chris.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Let's let's put together a video.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We can we can use his photo, we can replicate
his voice from the audio recordings that we have of him.
So the husband and a friend used some tools. They
cloned his voice based on the old videos. They animated
his face so his eyes would blink and his mouth
would move as he spoke. Interesting that at the very
beginning of this video he says, Hey, just so you know,
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I am not real this and they play this video
in court.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Just to be clear for everyone seeing this, I am
a version of Chris Pelke recreated through AI that uses
my picture and my voice profile.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
How did they get his voice?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
I was digitally regenerated.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
To share with you today, that's the future of our job,
is somebody cloning voices?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Lit But how I.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Mean ours is easy. We're on the radio every day.
How do you get a clean voice off of a
voicemail or whatever?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Siri?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It wasn't just voicemail. They've just videotapes of him speaking.
Oh okay, it's sir stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The judge actually spoke about this. He said, I felt
like it was genuine.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Oh, but there's a twist that I didn't see. When
the sister put this together, she showed it to her
own attorneys, right to Chris's attorneys and the prosecutors and
they liked it. She showed it to the victim's attorney,
thought it was very effective, said it was appropriate, don't
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know what kind of objections we would get, but did.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Not show it too the shooter.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
By the way, this all stems from a road rage
case from twenty twenty one. Chris Pelke had gotten out
of his truck. Some guy was honking at him incessantly.
He gets out of his truck and goes to the car.
The guy in the car shot and killed Chris before
they even had much of an actual confrontation. She did
not show the attorneys for the shooter, and she did
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not show the judge before it court. You don't have
to watch to make an assumption, though, that the judge would.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Be okay with me.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Like I said, victim impact statements, you can do whatever
you want in those. The judge doesn't pre read or
all the things that people say to the defendant. The
judge has There's no there's no rule that says you
the judge has to be privy to what you're going
to present in your victim impact statement.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, but it just seems like it would be so
out of the ordinary that the even if the judge
if she throws it up and says, I have a
video of my brother talking to everybody in the court.
I would, as the judge, I'd be like, I don't what,
how is that possible? Here's what the AI generated. Chris
Pelke said to the court.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Thank you for reading the flood of impact statements that
came in before today that so many people wrote on
my behalf. Every single one of them is meaningful and
gives a glimpse into my life with each of them.
To Gabriel horc Asidas, the man who shot me, it
is a shame we encountered each other that day, in
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those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have been friends.
I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I
always have and I still do. Wow to my family
and everyone that I've met along the way, it was
a lot of fun, you know. I always had a
lot of fun. Love each other because you never know
how long you have, but make the most of each
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day and live your life.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It is okay to stumble.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
God has you remember, getting old is a gift that
not everybody has.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Now Again, she didn't present this to the judge. She
didn't present this to the shooter's attorney. She didn't even
present it to the rest of her family before it
was played in court.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
That's the thing that bothers me because all the other stuff,
who cares, They don't have a right to see that.
It's her statement, but the family. If if your family's
sitting there, you're going to play an AI video of
their dead loved one as well, you got to give
people a heads up for that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It is weird.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And as you mentioned, this is not the criminal case.
This is not the determination of guilt or innocence. This
is a sentencing, so the rules are very loose when
it is when basically you could present whatever you want.
But there is a concern that and it's a little
far fetched, but there is a concern that somehow people
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will use AI generated images, videos like this or whatever
to be used as testimonial.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
There's that would happen.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Lawyers already use recreations based on.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The facts of the case.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Based on the physical things you can measure exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So it's just kind of it's going to be up
to judges how far you can go with that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
As we make our way into this new.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
World, all right. Coming up next, what do you want
to do? Shall we get back on schedule here? I
found this to be very interesting story in the Wall
Street Journal about shop class.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Shop class was phased.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Out, and I never understood that because those are real jobs,
and if they are such real jobs, that now trade
companies are going to high schools to find kids who
still have shop class and who excel in it, and
they're offering them contracts the way they would a star
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athlete in high school.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Biggest story of the day. We have a new pope.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
White smoke has come out of the chimney on top
of the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican. Of the one
hundred and thirty three eligible cardinals, they voted on the
successor to Pope Francis, and it's an American originally from Chicago,
Pope Leo the fourteenth, previously known as Robert Francis prevost.
Father James Martin, contributor to ABC News, knows the new Pope.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
He's a wonderful person. I got to know him at
the Senate. He's very down to earth, he's kind. He's
very humble and very self spoken. One of the interesting
things is that he was Prior General of the Augustinian Order.
People would know that new league in the United States
from Villanova. Being prior General means that you are someone
whom the entire.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Order looks up to. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I mentioned earlier he has a BS degree in math
from Villanova.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's just real quick to put a bow on the
baseball situation.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yes, the Rockies have only won six games. Yeah, what
is that like. I don't know, They're awful.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's awful. Just to be in that locker room and
that facility. Six games. Okay, well, this is some good news.
I think it's good news. Finally we're getting our things done.
Correc when it turned when it comes to valuing skilled positions,
Elijah Rios is the kid they profile in the Wall
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Street Journal. Now, Elijah won't graduate from high school until
next year, but he already has a job offer that
pays nearly seventy grand a year. Elijah is not a
five star baseball player or basketball or football. No, he's
taking welding classes at his high school in Philadelphia. And
this high school works closely with companies looking for workers
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in the skilled trades. Employers are dealing with such a
shortage of these workers that they're courting high school students.
As the boomers are retiring in these skilled positions. These
companies are saying, crap. All we have to look at
are these millennials who made not involving a penis.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's funny with that's the first place you went, I said,
left handed medieval puppetry.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Right, there was this whole push when you and I
were in school, go to college, Go to college, Go
to college, major in something that you're interested in. And
there was all these people that decided to major in
puppetry of the.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
What left handed medieval puppetry.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yes, that that graduated, and they have these beautiful degrees
that are framed and rich mahogany, but no freaking talent
or skill that's usable in everyday life. And now those
skilled jobs are empty and they're emptying out with people
retiring before the push to become a puppet master. And
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so now you've got these companies going to high schools
that still have shop classes, and so many of them
don't because of the emphasis on the puppetry lettetry, you
know what I mean. The liberal arts things, and all
the push to to go to higher education when who's
going to make the.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
S There was, like you said, there was that emphasis
on go to college, You'll figure it out, go to college,
it will come to you, or however you wanted to
put it, but you really couldn't do anything without a
four year degree, which as we know, we've learned complete
bs right or BA. But the whole point of it,
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I mean, I'm not saying college is bad, because in fact,
it does continue those lessons that you're supposed to learn
in high school, which is how to study, how to
manage time, how to do what is required of you,
how to answer to specifications.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But some people aren't built that way.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And if you're built the way that you work with
your hands and that is your jam, you need shop
class and you need somebody to tell you, hey, there's
jobs for you. These people, I mean, it's employers that
range from the local transit system to submarine manufacturers that
are making regular visits to this high school in Philly,
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specifically the welding classrooms, bringing branded swag and pitching students
on their specific workplaces.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, Father Judge is a Catholic high school there in
Philly and it has brought back and put an emphasis
on those trade classes, trades, and in other places we're
seeing it as well, plumbing, electrical work, welding, even wood
shop that they have come back in a big way
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because there has been such a loss of those Now
on this show, we've talked with Mike row Dirty Jobs
Micro We've talked to him a couple of times, and
this is one of his big emphasis is getting people
out of the rut of a place they don't want
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to be in college, career field, they don't want to
be left handed medieval puppetry, and get them onto a
path that is fulfilling in terms of work and financially
secure in terms of the rest of their lives. A
lot of these people listen. When you start radio may
not be the greatest example, but it is an example.
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When you start in radio, you work all the time.
You have to. You have to volunteer do everything. You
volunteer to work on the weekends, you volunteer to work overnights,
you volunteer to empty the trash cans on Tuesdays, you
volunteer to work on holidays.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
That's the only way.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
You're going to get any sort of money to pay
the rent, not get ahead, not be famous.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's the way you get money to pay the rent.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
In some of these right out of high school careers,
they're talking about eighty thousand dollars a year base pay
plus great overtime, plus great benefits, plus great vacation packages.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I mean, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Ever remember that, even being I didn't know that I
had benefits until I was probably thirty four years old.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, my brother there was always into mechanics, and my
dad was.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Always like, you got to go to college, you got
to go to college.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And my brother, he's a plumber, has his own business,
employees a whole bit, doing great. But he landed there
after a series of different things he did with his hands.
But I remember at one point my parents said something
like electricians, get into this field. You can become an apprentice.
You can become an electrician. It's real money and benefits.
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And it's like those same things that are important to
people down the line are still not important to a
twenty six year old or whatever he was at the time.
He's not thinking about what he's thinking about, what does
what do I want to do with my hands? You
know what kind of labor do I want to do?
Still wasn't thinking like labor or benefits and you know,
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salaried positions and things like that.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
So it's kind of hard when you.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
When you're talking to kids that that are into the
shop thing to kind of woo them with like a
concrete plan or like a stability, to woo them with stability,
that's not what they're into. So it's kind of a
I would imagine it's kind of a delicate dance going
into those shop classes.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You have to kind of recruit them.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Because to a kid like that, the idea of stability,
that's not what they're looking for. They want to they
want to be creative.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Venture all of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The other thing is if you found a place, speaking
of benefits, if you found a place that was going
to put money in your four oh one K when
you're eighteen years old, I.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Still have that's a ten year head start on most people, right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I mean that's that idea alone is again not necessarily
sellable to an eighteen year old. Hey, we're going to
take part of your paycheck and stalk it away so
you can't touch it for a long time. But you
tell them then there'll be a millionaire by the time
they want to retire. I mean some of that that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I just learned about our pension from Handle like three
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well, you have to pay your union dues before I did.
I did that last year first time. I'm all good.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
As an example, one of the seniors at that at
that Catholic high school.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
In five year rules, I just don't want you to
be an old maid.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You just don't want to be living in the other room.
I know what you're saying. Aiden is a senior at
Father Judge High School. He was recruited as a high
school welder. He was a senior and was offered a
seventy five thousand dollars a year job before he graduated
high school. Yeah, he's going to be working at a
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submarine well as a submarine welder at a defense contractor
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
That's a good job.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But you know that there are some of these kids
that are like, eh.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, well, they also want the party aspect of college.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
There's there's that, there's the slice of the pie that
is only wants to go to college for that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
They don't care about. No, I don't. I'm talking about
the shop kids even shop kids.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I'm saying somebody coming in and be like, we'll
pay you seventy thousand dollars a year, just like, So.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I gotta be there nine to five, five days. I
don't know. How do I play my games? How do
I play my games? All right? People's minds work differently,
Yes they do. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
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Speaker 3 (25:31):
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Speaker 2 (25:52):
So, man, the Lord really made the show fly by today.
Didn't thank you for that? We appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Hey, I am a millennial thirty one years old, graduated
high school in twenty twelve.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
I had no interest in going to college.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I stood on a piece of heavy equipment on the
side of.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I five in Santa Clarita, making about one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars a year without overtime.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Nice, I think more than a teachers who told me
I wasn't going to make any money in my life.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Ever, that's I'll hog as I go by today. By
the way, see you on the side of the freeway.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I took one of those tests in high school at
the office with all the pamphlets of colleges and things.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Your counselor's office, I guess.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't remember there being a counselor there. Maybe there was,
but I do remember taking some sort of test.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I was gonna remember anybody else in the room, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It was just like a multiple choice test or something.
And it was supposed to give you three different jobs
that you would be good at. And I only remember
one of the three, and one of them, that one,
the one that I remember, and it was number two
on the list, was bus driver. I don't remember the
questions of the test. I certainly don't remember a driving
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test that wasn't included, but bus driver driver, okay, So
maybe because I like to talk or talk to people,
or so, maybe that was a question do you like I.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Don't know your service oriented. I did not write yes to.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
That, Gary Shannon, this is Larry from Beverly Hills. I
teach a ten week course several times a year at
Santa Ana College in Santa Ana, California that helped people
get into the construction workers' unions through what is called
the MC three pre Apprenticeship Program. It is completely free
course and I placed three students in the last eight weeks. Wow,
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from my classes already, so it's a wonderful thing to do.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
They can make up to up.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
To Oh, oh, you're leaving me hanging by, that's too bad.
Diane also called and Diane apparently has a friend that
did this path.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hello.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
I had a dear friend back in Massachusetts who owned
his own metalworking company for many years and then he
taught metalworking. He retired down to Florida and he was
hired by NASA to work on the space shuttles because
of his metalworking. Absolutely fantastic man, in a great job.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He just loved it.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Thank you very much for that. Yeah, this is what
I'm here for. I've also said that there.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
There is a there's a definite value to having created
or fixed something by yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh my gosh, but I got pride that you would.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I can't talk about it because I don't know what
that feels like. But I would feel like that would
be immense pride. I mean I feel that way if
I successfully put together a piece of furniture, which is
a real crapshoot, if I success fully complete that project,
but one I have successfully put together a piece of
furniture when you use.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
All of the screws and fasteners and there's none left over.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, they do give you extras, don't they.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Sometimes Sometimes the way I build it you don't need
at all.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Ah, So you're you're improving on the design? Is that
what you're doing? It's lighter this way, there's not as
many nuts and bolts.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Finding out some more about our new pope, Pope Leo,
first American pope from Shytown, Chicago. A lot about his history.
This guy gets great marks all around. He seems to
be very likable. We'll have more details for him about
him for you and everything else that's going on coming
up next to on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Pope Leo the fourteenth the Vicar
General of the Order of Saint Augustine of the Augustinians,
the thirteenth century religious order founded by Saint Augustine Francis.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Pope Francis, God Rest.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
His soul clearly had an eye on this man, Pope
Leo for years, moving him from the Augustinian leadership back
to Peru in twenty fourteen to serve as the administrator
later archbishop of the area there. He remained in that position,
acquired Peruvian citizenship in twenty fifteen. God, I love a
Peruvian too, man, Do not mess with a Peruvian anyway.
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Frances brought him back to Rome, to Rome, I guess
I should say, in twenty twenty three to assume the
presidency of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. So he
kept in regular contact with the Catholic hierarchy and that
part of the world that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Counts the most Catholics.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Really, he's kept a low public profile there since arriving
in Rome, but well known to the men who count
as the way I keep reading.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It, you mentioned he was brought to the Vatican a
couple of years ago. He becomes Popolio six, sorry the fourteenth,
the first American pontiff.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And we said it yesterday. I thought it would have.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Been almost an impossibility for there to be an American pope,
simply because the amount of power that America wields in general,
that the Church, that the cardinals would not that it
would be a negative necessarily, but there would be some
view some who viewed it as an opportunist move to
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have an American pope, because now, granted he doesn't represent
the United States of America, he represents Catholics, he represents
the Vatican, he represents the entire Church, but that it
is an American is not something that can be overlooked.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Youthful just sixty nine. He has been said to be
somebody of a good disposition. No matter how many problems
he has, he maintains good humor and joy, which is
nice that. According to a communications director for his old
diocese there in Peru, he says he remembers the cardinal
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rising each day having breakfast with the other priests. After
saying his morning prayers there.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
This is the story that is going to dominate today
for many parts of the world. It's even more important
than it is here in the United States, simply because
of our secularity for a large part. But there are
still thousands and thousands of people in Vatican City who
were there on this historic day, just hanging around. And again,
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Pop Leo made his speech, came out, blessed the crowd,
bless the Catholics around the world, and retreated into the
Sistine Chapel for whatever sort of.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Soiree they give a new pope.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Interesting that he spoke to the crowd in both Italian
and Spanish, no English, Italian, Spanish, and some Latin. The
last pope to take the name Leo was Leo the thirteenth,
an Italian who led the Church from eighteen seventy eight
to nineteen o three. That Leo softened the Church's confrontational
stance toward modern times, especially science and politics, laid the foundation,
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they say, for modern Catholic social thought, most famously with
his eighteen ninety one.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Scribe.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I guess you could call it because if I say
the Latin term for it, I'll butcher it and you
won't know what the hell I'm talking about, But he
addressed workers' rights and capitalism at the time.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Glad we know our limitations. We do.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
There's few things we do have going for us. Self
awareness is one of them.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And then a lot of questions surrounding this pope regarding continuation,
if there will be any of Pope Fancis's more progressive
look and softer stance when it comes to social issues.
We're not quite sure exactly what Pope Leo the fourteenth
is going to do. But that's what much much of
the discussion shall be over the course of the next
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couple of days.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So the way that the conclave goes, By the way,
this was the third round of voting for today for today, Yeah, okay,
so there was on the fourth vote.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's what we understand. If all we're doing is counting smokes.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The pageantry that goes on inside the secretive conclave. We
hear some secrets that have been leaked out about the
strict choreography dictated by Church law about how the votes
go down. Each cardinal writes his choice on a piece
of paper that is inscribed with the words in Latin,
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I elect as Supreme Pontiff coroach the altar one by one,
and they say, I call is my witnessed Christ, the
Lord who will be my judge. That my vote is
given to the one who, before God I think should
be elected. And then the folded ballot is placed on
a round plate and tipped into a silver and gold urn.
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And then, once cast, the ballots are opened one by
one by three different scrutineers, cardinals selected at random, who
write down the names and read them aloud. The scrutineer's
work is checked by other cardinals called revisers, and then
they add up the results of each round of balloting
rite on a separate sheet of paper, which is preserved
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in the papal archives. And then as the scrutineer reads
out each name, he pierces each ballot with a needle
through the word the Latin word that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Means let me find what it means, whereas.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I call his witness, so it's a term it basically
means I call his witness.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Is what they put the needle through.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And then all the ballots are then bound together with
the red and the bundles put aside and burned, and
the chapel stove along with the chemical that will produce
either the white or the black smoke.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And they only had to use the black smoke three times,
once yesterday, twice this morning, and then it was the
white smoke just before.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So interesting that the cardinals hear all the names, you know,
there's no secret balloting.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You hear the names.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So there's there's cardinals up there whose names were called
but didn't didn't make the final round.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And there may have been there may be cardinals that
are there whose names have been called multiple times. That's
true the course of the couple of different true. And
some of them don't want the job. You know, Benedict
didn't want the job, but this Pope seems to really
want the job.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, good for him. Or maybe he was crying tiers
of tears of fear, fear and such. I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay, this is again the big story of the day.
We will revisit a couple of times. It is going
to make its way into strange science that comes up
late in the show as well. But one of the
stories that we had to push just as we were
watching the new Pope is the sister of a murder
victim put together an AI video of her dead brother
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and played it as a victim statement in court.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Now victim impact statements, you can basically do whatever you
want during your victim impact statement. The way I first
read this story was it was played in court, and
I thought, in what world is AI going to be permissible?
And then it opened up all these other questions, like, well,
in this world, AI is going to make its way
into court rooms and it will be up to certain
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judges what is going to be permissible and what is
It's going to be a wild West world when it
comes to AI used.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
We'll let you listen to some of the video that
again the sister made of her dead brother for the
victim impact statement.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We will stay on top of all the news coming
out of the Vatican, where an American pope for the
first time ever has.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Been PopEd, hoped, Pope Leo elected elected, Peace be with
you in his first words, offering that message of peace.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
They're very big on peace, the Augustinians. That is the
order of which he comes and that is the overriding
theme is to can't we all get along?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So that'll be nice?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think some of the things that he'll do right
away is ask some of his fellow cardinals to serve
with him in sort of their version of what would
be a presidential cabinet, so we might get some of
those names throughout the course of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Also, Stacey had the heartbreaking task preparing a victim impact
statement in court. This is for the man that was
being sentenced for shooting and killing her brother. Happened during
a road rage incident in twenty twenty one, and she
couldn't really figure out Stacy how to convey the loss
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that she felt losing her brother. The attorneys told Stacy
just try to bring him to life. So she had
this idea, what if I turned to AI.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, she had gone around and done the normal thing,
which is ask friends and family members to record statements
or write letters to the court on Chris's behalf in
order to I mean, in order to convince the judge
basically to sentence this guy to a maximum and at
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one point her husband, with experience using generative AI, I said,
let's do this for Chris.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Let's let's put together a video.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We can we can use his photo, we can replicate
his voice from the audio recordings that we have of him.
So the husband and a friend used some tools. They
cloned his voice based on the old videos. They animated
his face so his eyes would blink and his mouth
would move as he spoke. Interesting that at the very
beginning of this video he says, Hey, just so you know,
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I am not real this and they play this video
in court.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Just to be clear for everyone seeing this, I am
a version of Chris Pelke recreated through AI that uses
my picture and my voice profile.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
How did they get his voice?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
I was digitally regenerated.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
To share with you today, that's the future of our job,
is somebody cloning voices?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Lit But how I.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Mean ours is easy. We're on the radio every day.
How do you get a clean voice off of a
voicemail or whatever?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Siri?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It wasn't just voicemail. They've just videotapes of him speaking.
Oh okay, it's sir stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The judge actually spoke about this. He said, I felt
like it was genuine.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Oh, but there's a twist that I didn't see. When
the sister put this together, she showed it to her
own attorneys, right to Chris's attorneys and the prosecutors and
they liked it. She showed it to the victim's attorney,
thought it was very effective, said it was appropriate, don't
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know what kind of objections we would get, but did.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Not show it too the shooter.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
By the way, this all stems from a road rage
case from twenty twenty one. Chris Pelke had gotten out
of his truck. Some guy was honking at him incessantly.
He gets out of his truck and goes to the car.
The guy in the car shot and killed Chris before
they even had much of an actual confrontation. She did
not show the attorneys for the shooter, and she did
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not show the judge before it court. You don't have
to watch to make an assumption, though, that the judge would.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Be okay with me.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Like I said, victim impact statements, you can do whatever
you want in those. The judge doesn't pre read or
all the things that people say to the defendant. The
judge has There's no there's no rule that says you
the judge has to be privy to what you're going
to present in your victim impact statement.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, but it just seems like it would be so
out of the ordinary that the even if the judge
if she throws it up and says, I have a
video of my brother talking to everybody in the court.
I would, as the judge, I'd be like, I don't what,
how is that possible? Here's what the AI generated. Chris
Pelke said to the court.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Thank you for reading the flood of impact statements that
came in before today that so many people wrote on
my behalf. Every single one of them is meaningful and
gives a glimpse into my life with each of them.
To Gabriel horc Asidas, the man who shot me, it
is a shame we encountered each other that day, in
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those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have been friends.
I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I
always have and I still do. Wow to my family
and everyone that I've met along the way, it was
a lot of fun, you know. I always had a
lot of fun. Love each other because you never know
how long you have, but make the most of each
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day and live your life.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It is okay to stumble.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
God has you remember, getting old is a gift that
not everybody has.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Now Again, she didn't present this to the judge. She
didn't present this to the shooter's attorney. She didn't even
present it to the rest of her family before it
was played in court.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
That's the thing that bothers me because all the other stuff,
who cares, They don't have a right to see that.
It's her statement, but the family. If if your family's
sitting there, you're going to play an AI video of
their dead loved one as well, you got to give
people a heads up for that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It is weird.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And as you mentioned, this is not the criminal case.
This is not the determination of guilt or innocence. This
is a sentencing, so the rules are very loose when
it is when basically you could present whatever you want.
But there is a concern that and it's a little
far fetched, but there is a concern that somehow people
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will use AI generated images, videos like this or whatever
to be used as testimonial.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
There's that would happen.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Lawyers already use recreations based on.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The facts of the case.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Based on the physical things you can measure exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So it's just kind of it's going to be up
to judges how far you can go with that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
As we make our way into this new.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
World, all right. Coming up next, what do you want
to do? Shall we get back on schedule here? I
found this to be very interesting story in the Wall
Street Journal about shop class.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Shop class was phased.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Out, and I never understood that because those are real jobs,
and if they are such real jobs, that now trade
companies are going to high schools to find kids who
still have shop class and who excel in it, and
they're offering them contracts the way they would a star
(15:31):
athlete in high school.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Biggest story of the day. We have a new pope.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
White smoke has come out of the chimney on top
of the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican. Of the one
hundred and thirty three eligible cardinals, they voted on the
successor to Pope Francis, and it's an American originally from Chicago,
Pope Leo the fourteenth, previously known as Robert Francis prevost.
Father James Martin, contributor to ABC News, knows the new Pope.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
He's a wonderful person. I got to know him at
the Senate. He's very down to earth, he's kind. He's
very humble and very self spoken. One of the interesting
things is that he was Prior General of the Augustinian Order.
People would know that new league in the United States
from Villanova. Being prior General means that you are someone
whom the entire.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Order looks up to. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I mentioned earlier he has a BS degree in math
from Villanova.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's just real quick to put a bow on the
baseball situation.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yes, the Rockies have only won six games. Yeah, what
is that like. I don't know, They're awful.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's awful. Just to be in that locker room and
that facility. Six games. Okay, well, this is some good news.
I think it's good news. Finally we're getting our things done.
Correc when it turned when it comes to valuing skilled positions,
Elijah Rios is the kid they profile in the Wall
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Street Journal. Now, Elijah won't graduate from high school until
next year, but he already has a job offer that
pays nearly seventy grand a year. Elijah is not a
five star baseball player or basketball or football. No, he's
taking welding classes at his high school in Philadelphia. And
this high school works closely with companies looking for workers
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in the skilled trades. Employers are dealing with such a
shortage of these workers that they're courting high school students.
As the boomers are retiring in these skilled positions. These
companies are saying, crap. All we have to look at
are these millennials who made not involving a penis.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's funny with that's the first place you went, I said,
left handed medieval puppetry.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Right, there was this whole push when you and I
were in school, go to college, Go to college, Go
to college, major in something that you're interested in. And
there was all these people that decided to major in
puppetry of the.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
What left handed medieval puppetry.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yes, that that graduated, and they have these beautiful degrees
that are framed and rich mahogany, but no freaking talent
or skill that's usable in everyday life. And now those
skilled jobs are empty and they're emptying out with people
retiring before the push to become a puppet master. And
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so now you've got these companies going to high schools
that still have shop classes, and so many of them
don't because of the emphasis on the puppetry lettetry, you
know what I mean. The liberal arts things, and all
the push to to go to higher education when who's
going to make the.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
S There was, like you said, there was that emphasis
on go to college, You'll figure it out, go to college,
it will come to you, or however you wanted to
put it, but you really couldn't do anything without a
four year degree, which as we know, we've learned complete
bs right or BA. But the whole point of it,
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I mean, I'm not saying college is bad, because in fact,
it does continue those lessons that you're supposed to learn
in high school, which is how to study, how to
manage time, how to do what is required of you,
how to answer to specifications.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But some people aren't built that way.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And if you're built the way that you work with
your hands and that is your jam, you need shop
class and you need somebody to tell you, hey, there's
jobs for you. These people, I mean, it's employers that
range from the local transit system to submarine manufacturers that
are making regular visits to this high school in Philly,
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specifically the welding classrooms, bringing branded swag and pitching students
on their specific workplaces.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, Father Judge is a Catholic high school there in
Philly and it has brought back and put an emphasis
on those trade classes, trades, and in other places we're
seeing it as well, plumbing, electrical work, welding, even wood
shop that they have come back in a big way
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because there has been such a loss of those Now
on this show, we've talked with Mike row Dirty Jobs
Micro We've talked to him a couple of times, and
this is one of his big emphasis is getting people
out of the rut of a place they don't want
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to be in college, career field, they don't want to
be left handed medieval puppetry, and get them onto a
path that is fulfilling in terms of work and financially
secure in terms of the rest of their lives. A
lot of these people listen. When you start radio may
not be the greatest example, but it is an example.
(21:08):
When you start in radio, you work all the time.
You have to. You have to volunteer do everything. You
volunteer to work on the weekends, you volunteer to work overnights,
you volunteer to empty the trash cans on Tuesdays, you
volunteer to work on holidays.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
That's the only way.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
You're going to get any sort of money to pay
the rent, not get ahead, not be famous.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's the way you get money to pay the rent.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
In some of these right out of high school careers,
they're talking about eighty thousand dollars a year base pay
plus great overtime, plus great benefits, plus great vacation packages.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I mean, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Ever remember that, even being I didn't know that I
had benefits until I was probably thirty four years old.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, my brother there was always into mechanics, and my
dad was.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Always like, you got to go to college, you got
to go to college.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And my brother, he's a plumber, has his own business,
employees a whole bit, doing great. But he landed there
after a series of different things he did with his hands.
But I remember at one point my parents said something
like electricians, get into this field. You can become an apprentice.
You can become an electrician. It's real money and benefits.
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And it's like those same things that are important to
people down the line are still not important to a
twenty six year old or whatever he was at the time.
He's not thinking about what he's thinking about, what does
what do I want to do with my hands? You
know what kind of labor do I want to do?
Still wasn't thinking like labor or benefits and you know,
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salaried positions and things like that.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
So it's kind of hard when you.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
When you're talking to kids that that are into the
shop thing to kind of woo them with like a
concrete plan or like a stability, to woo them with stability,
that's not what they're into. So it's kind of a
I would imagine it's kind of a delicate dance going
into those shop classes.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You have to kind of recruit them.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Because to a kid like that, the idea of stability,
that's not what they're looking for. They want to they
want to be creative.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Venture all of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The other thing is if you found a place, speaking
of benefits, if you found a place that was going
to put money in your four oh one K when
you're eighteen years old, I.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Still have that's a ten year head start on most people, right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I mean that's that idea alone is again not necessarily
sellable to an eighteen year old. Hey, we're going to
take part of your paycheck and stalk it away so
you can't touch it for a long time. But you
tell them then there'll be a millionaire by the time
they want to retire. I mean some of that that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I just learned about our pension from Handle like three
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well, you have to pay your union dues before I did.
I did that last year first time. I'm all good.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
As an example, one of the seniors at that at
that Catholic high school.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
In five year rules, I just don't want you to
be an old maid.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You just don't want to be living in the other room.
I know what you're saying. Aiden is a senior at
Father Judge High School. He was recruited as a high
school welder. He was a senior and was offered a
seventy five thousand dollars a year job before he graduated
high school. Yeah, he's going to be working at a
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submarine well as a submarine welder at a defense contractor
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
That's a good job.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But you know that there are some of these kids
that are like, eh.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, well, they also want the party aspect of college.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
There's there's that, there's the slice of the pie that
is only wants to go to college for that.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
They don't care about. No, I don't. I'm talking about
the shop kids even shop kids.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I'm saying somebody coming in and be like, we'll
pay you seventy thousand dollars a year, just like, So.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I gotta be there nine to five, five days. I
don't know. How do I play my games? How do
I play my games? All right? People's minds work differently,
Yes they do. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
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Speaker 3 (25:31):
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Speaker 2 (25:52):
So, man, the Lord really made the show fly by today.
Didn't thank you for that? We appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Hey, I am a millennial thirty one years old, graduated
high school in twenty twelve.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
I had no interest in going to college.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I stood on a piece of heavy equipment on the
side of.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I five in Santa Clarita, making about one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars a year without overtime.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Nice, I think more than a teachers who told me
I wasn't going to make any money in my life.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Ever, that's I'll hog as I go by today. By
the way, see you on the side of the freeway.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I took one of those tests in high school at
the office with all the pamphlets of colleges and things.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Your counselor's office, I guess.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't remember there being a counselor there. Maybe there was,
but I do remember taking some sort of test.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I was gonna remember anybody else in the room, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It was just like a multiple choice test or something.
And it was supposed to give you three different jobs
that you would be good at. And I only remember
one of the three, and one of them, that one,
the one that I remember, and it was number two
on the list, was bus driver. I don't remember the
questions of the test. I certainly don't remember a driving
(27:12):
test that wasn't included, but bus driver driver, okay, So
maybe because I like to talk or talk to people,
or so, maybe that was a question do you like I.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Don't know your service oriented. I did not write yes to.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
That, Gary Shannon, this is Larry from Beverly Hills. I
teach a ten week course several times a year at
Santa Ana College in Santa Ana, California that helped people
get into the construction workers' unions through what is called
the MC three pre Apprenticeship Program. It is completely free
course and I placed three students in the last eight weeks. Wow,
(27:51):
from my classes already, so it's a wonderful thing to do.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
They can make up to up.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
To Oh, oh, you're leaving me hanging by, that's too bad.
Diane also called and Diane apparently has a friend that
did this path.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hello.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
I had a dear friend back in Massachusetts who owned
his own metalworking company for many years and then he
taught metalworking. He retired down to Florida and he was
hired by NASA to work on the space shuttles because
of his metalworking. Absolutely fantastic man, in a great job.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
He just loved it.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Thank you very much for that. Yeah, this is what
I'm here for. I've also said that there.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
There is a there's a definite value to having created
or fixed something by yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh my gosh, but I got pride that you would.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I can't talk about it because I don't know what
that feels like. But I would feel like that would
be immense pride. I mean I feel that way if
I successfully put together a piece of furniture, which is
a real crapshoot, if I success fully complete that project,
but one I have successfully put together a piece of
furniture when you use.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
All of the screws and fasteners and there's none left over.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, they do give you extras, don't they.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Sometimes Sometimes the way I build it you don't need
at all.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Ah, So you're you're improving on the design? Is that
what you're doing? It's lighter this way, there's not as
many nuts and bolts.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Finding out some more about our new pope, Pope Leo,
first American pope from Shytown, Chicago. A lot about his history.
This guy gets great marks all around. He seems to
be very likable. We'll have more details for him about
him for you and everything else that's going on coming
up next to on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
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