October 7, 2025 • 28 mins
Gary and Shannon kick off Hour 2 breaking down the LA Times investigation into how LA County failed during the January fires, and why the same mistakes have played out for years despite repeated warnings. Then they cover a shocking story out of South Lake Tahoe, where the city’s mayor admitted to embezzling church funds following a suicide attempt.The chaos doesn’t stop there though: a near miss from an asteroid that came within 265 miles of Earth sparks debate about planetary defense and pure luck. Gary and Shannon also unpack the bizarre case of a former LA Deputy Mayor sentenced to probation after calling in a fake bomb threat.Finally, they wrap with #PourSomeGaSOn…Sports, recapping Monday Night Football, the Dodgers’ latest outing, and the NFLPA investigation into the Arizona Cardinals coach.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm gonna let it slide to Elmer because it is
your birthday, but we don't play Kanye without permission, slit.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Are we also not playing Diddy?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
No, probably not.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I heard Kesha's song in the hallway this morning, wake
Up in the Morning, and then dead air for four seconds,
and then the song picks up again.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
To which I say, really, there's got to be a
better way.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
I thought she re recorded.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I thought so too, but I'm assuming it's kiss that
we were playing in the hallways, but it was dead
air for at least three seconds and a beat.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Would you replace Diddy with wake Up.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
In the Morning?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Feeling like Elmer, I was trying to make that work
and it just wasn't working in my head.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
No, Elmer, ay from one veteran to another. Happy birthday, brother, Hurrah,
enjoy your day, budh.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Look at that very nice. Everyone loves Elmar. A couple
stories that are going on today that we are following.
This medical helicopter that crashed into a highway in Sacramento,
last night. Three people on board were the pilot, the nurse,
and the paramedic. No patience, but all three members turned
into patients. They ended up being put in the hospital
with critical injuries.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Another story we'll get into coming up next.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
From that area, South Lake Tahoe mayor has publicly confessed
to stealing from a church and a surprising letter she
sent to local news outlets over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We'll get into that well.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Also, don't look now, but Gold is at four thousand
dollars an ounce. It's been kind of bouncing up and
down right around that four thousand dollars an ounce level.
I think it peaked a little bit earlier today at
about four thousand and seven dollars, but up twenty three
dollars just today. Gold at four thousand dollars an ounce.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I have a hard time reading this sweeping report that
examined the performance of La County Fire SHAFFS emergency management
agencies in recent fires, specifically the twenty eighteen Woolsey fire,
because it found that the Emergency OPS Center was largely
ineffective in maintaining situal situational awareness, that notification tools were
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not used or used often enough that there was no clear,
single voice on evacuations. It's very troubling to hear that
what I deemed to be the finest firefighting agency in
the world, La County Fire would have a.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Report like this.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's it seems like this is one of the more
frustrating aspects of having covered local municipal governments like this
for so long. The expectation for local municipal governments, for
any level of government, is do the basic things right,
protect us police, fire roads right. Do those things right,
(03:04):
then you can dabble in making recommendations about someone's feelings
or resolutions that condemn in some sort of military action
overseas or something.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I've got to believe it's just too much bureaucracy that exists.
I believe the people for La County Fire know what
the hell they're doing. I believe the Lakini Sheriff's Department
knows what the hell they're doing when it comes to
fires and responses, but that there are too many cooks
in the kitchen when you get to the level of
the emergency op center. Potentially, that's just my hypothesis. That's
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too much bureaucracy, too much red tape, too much politics,
entering into doing things like fighting fires.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So when that Woolsey report came out, there were recommendations
that were made. The problem is a lot of times
people are concerned that these after action reports only have
moderate recommendations. They do not address the underlying systemic problems
that exist in some of these, Like you're saying, by
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bureaucratic morass that is supposed to be a finally highly
responsive active emergency operations center. Kevin McGowan is the director
of La County OEM. He said that they have made
significant progress after they took on the responsibility for the
Emergency Operation Center after the Woolsey fire. He said they
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now they open up the Office of Emergency Management activates sooner.
It's based on threats rather than after a disaster has
taken place, and it also sends out more mass notification.
His office issued more than eighty emergency notification campaigns during
the January firestorms, and by the way, most of them
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were right.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm dubious when I get to this quote though from
Kevin McGowan. He says that the report identifies the solution,
which is in his estimation, bolstering his budget and staff.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
To me, that makes me dubious.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I need more bureaucracy, I need more No, if we
need more firefighters, we need more firefighters. We don't need
more people managing firefighters.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And that I think is one of those aspects of
that local municipal government, that is the bravado that you
believe you're supposed to have final say on all of
this sort of thing. The firefighters at work, like you said,
for La County, La City, all of these different agencies,
they know what they need from an Office of Emergency
Management or from a county board of supervisors or whatever,
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and most importantly, they know what they need.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
In the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So allow them to dictate what is required of the OEM,
what sort of notifications should be going out, Allow them
to have more of a say in all of this,
and take it out of the hands of some blue
ribbon commission or something like that for people who have
never never lived that life and never done that job.
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That's not to say that there's not administrative work that
can be done or is needed to help manage all
of this stuff. But when you're talking about emergency, absolute
tip of the spear, the most engaged that these first
responders are.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Allow them to call the shots right.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
We learned how much we need the tip of the spear.
When the entire offensive line was crippled the Chargers on Sunday.
The tip of the spear was not there, and that
is how you lose the war.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It was broke off at some point.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, South Lake Tahoe. The mayor there admits to stealing
from a church. And that's not the end of it.
We'll tell her story that she told the local media
outlets over the weekend in a surprise letter, we come back.
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Speaker 1 (07:40):
Birthday, Elmer, you're the glue that keeps those two together.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
As Marelda from Fontana my birthday too.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Look all these birthdays October going on.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, people were get Let's see what was there we
in October?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So you're trying to figure out when toanky panky.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yes, sir, I like to do this.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I like to pull up songs when people's parents were
having sex to create them.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So since the awful idea, I've done it for you
several times.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
A yellow ribbon round the old oak tree.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You damn right.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
My birthday was on the fourth of October, and before
my mom died, I asked her if I was conceived
on New Year's Eve, maybe you were too, But your
mom was just a couple of days late, so maybe
you were a party.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Also, I gotta say I love nineteen eighty two, right,
that's what we're dealing with. I gotta say I loved
nineteen ninety two music that was like girl R and B,
Heaven and January nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Flavia. What kind of music to Flavi leg.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Uh just bachata, medinge, A lot of Spanish music, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Okay, I don't know day, So I'm going to pull
up the charts of January. It be Januy that he
was conceived, correct, Yeah, January nineteen oh Man, January nineteen
ninety two number one.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Song Boys to Men, End of the Road, followed by
y'all Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, those songs.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, baby making year. That was my first slow song.
I remember dancing to it in the gym with Brian
TIChE in nineteen ninety two. End of the Road. I
was in seventh grade. Wow, and I remember dancing this
far apart full. I've never seen wistful on your face before.
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But we were about the same height. That's what I realized.
And he grew.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
South Lake Tahoe mayor Tamra Wallace has confessed to embezzling
funds from a church. According to this lawyer, I'm sorry,
according to this letter. She by the way, sent this
letter out to local news outlets just Sunday night. She
admitted she was stealing money from the Presbyterian Church for
an extended period of time while working for the church
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as an administrator. Guilt stricken, she said she attempted suicide
on her birthday back in September. Since then, she's been
in a mental health facility where she's taking medication, participating
in group and individual therapy sessions.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I was telling my husband about this story in the kitchen.
I go, oh, south Lake mayor, South Lake Tahoe mayor.
So she stole from a church, tried to kill herself
over this, and he goes, sounds like a gambling addiction.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I said, let's see if you're right. Click.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I liked that idea. You know South Lake Tahoe. There's
casinos there. You're at Harris, You're at Harvey's. You're gambled
away the church's money. You feel awful about it. You
get into the fireball in the early hours one morning.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Fireball.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
There were also reports yesterday that surfaced that the mayor
pro tem, Cody Bass, was arrested it last month after
an altercation at the Lake Tahoe Aleway.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've been there in state Line. It's a fun place.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He was released from the Douglas County jail early in
the morning next day, the DA in Douglas County charged
him with misdemeanors of trespassing and harassment.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Have you been there recently? State Line area?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
They've gone far over. I was there for the for
the memorial in June, but we were on the This.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Would be a different trip.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah. There's a lot of cute little breweries with outdoor
space and outdoor games that have popped up there around
around state Life, I mean further away from the Nevada
side on the California side, but real good beer and
you know, good.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Corn hole things like that. I have nice little spots.
That was the first time I'd been in Tahoe for
probably twenty years, and obviously for the right, not for
their vacation reason.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I have pulled up the billboard Hot Latin Tracks
number ones of nineteen ninety two in January, the number
one hot Latin track.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Am I getting.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Closer to what Flavia would be into? What you got
with hot Latin tracks?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, okay, maybe a more meo k MIAs ho.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Doo? Yeah? I love what have you done?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That was by Cameo Sesto Sesto. That was the number
one billboard hot Latin track in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, we got to hear if it's sexy or not.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm sure it's probably sexy.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty today.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
By the way, mark's the second anniversary if you can
beleive that of the Hamas massacre from October seventh, Palestinian
terror terrorists marked the occasion by firing a rocket towards
southern Israel today. This projectile did trigger some of the
air raid sirens in Native ha Asarah. They said it
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most likely landed within the community, but didn't cause any injuries,
according to the Israeli Defense Force.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Taylor Swift says she was offered the Super Bowl gig
but turned it down.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
President Trump says the decision to have bad money perform
is a disaster. We'll get into that as well, and
he did. He asked Trump for a pardon. Very clever
by his attorneys, because why not.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I mean, he's done CRAZIERR s Well.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Trump was asked just yesterday again about the possibility of
pardoning Glainne Maxwell, and he said something ridiculous he said, well,
I haven't heard that name in so long.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh, he's trying to make it go away.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
That's trying.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But he didn't say no, and it just was kind
of equivocal about the whole That is a bridge too far.
The idea that you would pardon somebody like Elane Maxwell.
This is not somebody who was This is not a
book keeper for Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, they're trying to get him to weigh in and
talk publicly about this in any way that they can,
for him to admit that there's something there there that
they have not.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Publicized.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You missed it, by the way, huge asteroid just missed us. Oh,
came within three hundred miles of Earth. That's closer, by.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The way, three hundred miles two.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sixty five was the official count. Nine hundred and sixty miles.
Really close, it's they said, it's closer to the Earth's
surface than the orbit of the International Spaceway.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
When did this happen?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Just a couple days ago October first, and we had
no idea it was headed this.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Wow, Now here's the Because it's relatively small, it's about
a ten foot diameter asteroid they said, dubbed twenty twenty five,
TF like the Fuugh flew over Antarctica in the early
hours of October first, and they said it likely would
have burned up completely before it actually made contact with
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the surface of the Earth if it had made it
into the atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's the closest one I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's pretty close. Yeah, And I don't know. Some asteroid
expert would have to tell me. If it's a direct shot,
I mean, straight down to the surface, is it less
likely to burn up than if it kind of skims
around you know that. I don't know if that makes
any sense, skims through the atmosphere. But Jaguars beat the
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Chiefs thirty one, twenty eight on Monday Night Football last night.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, the Jaguars are a good team and Trevor Lawrence
can fall twice on one play and still score a touchdown.
Between that touchdown and the touchdown between the Cardinals Texan
or Cardinals Titans, most ridiculous touchdowns you've seen.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The interception a touchdown, What a mess. But yeah, the
Chiefs have some real issues. And I know that. We
always say, oh, it's it's early in the season.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
By week seven, week eight, we can start talking seriously
about the chiefs.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
They always work it out.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They've got some serious issues that don't get worked out,
but we'll see, all right. Brian Williams, former deputy mayor
of public safety under Karen Bass. The mayor has been
sentenced to probation for calling it a fake bomb threat.
And again you get the mental health issue. As you
heard in Deborah's news umbrella, Oh, I had mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Why do people always.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You know, and we just talked about the mayor in
South Lake Time, Oh, I have mental health issues. Why
doesn't anyone ever come out and just say I fed up?
Or I suck?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I am a bad person. I suck.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I made a bad decision, I had a bad day.
I did something stupid. I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I don't even know who that guy was that day
that did that, but that sucked. And I'm sorry. I
just and I understand that mental health issues exist. I
just feel like they're used as a shield often, or
maybe more often, or maybe we're talking about it more often.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's always existed.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I do feel like people use them as an excuse
for bad decisions.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yes, And I would just like more accountability.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't think that would be awful, and that goes
from the top down, more accountability, from the president to politicians,
to people and other people in power.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Just saying I screwed up. I mean, you would get so.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Much goodwill sent your way if you and I understand
there's things about liability and legal liability and admitting that
you suck and that it was your fault, and that's
it opens you up to lawsuits and that if you
can have an excuse, use the excuse, if you can deny, deny,
But how refreshing it would be for someone to take
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to a podium and say, I suck, I made an
awful decision.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's on me.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
But uh yes, I would want that as well.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There is a weird mechanism though, or there's a difference
between an interpersonal acceptance of responsibility and a public acceptance
of responsibility. If I do something to wrong you, if
I do something that's totally wrong single day, yes, and
at one o'clock and I said to you as we're
walking out, hey, I'm really sorry. I completely blew those
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four hours and I apologize. That's different than.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Or just maybe a small apology for the ass jokes
that's not gonna it's not gonna happen. No, those are
those are important.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I would satire sometimes it's important. But if people don't
do that on a on a more public scale, if
you offend more than one person, it's a lot harder
for somebody to come out and go, I completely blew this.
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I apologize. I never should have insert name of transgression here. Yeah,
and I'll do my best to never have let it
happen again, as opposed to.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
What is it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I have an undiagnosed mental health challenge that I'm working through,
and you may, by the way, that's the other part
about it is you may have a mental health challenge
that you haven't a coravenient.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Everybody could argue that they have a mental health issue
or challenge not even an issue. Everyone could argue they
have a mental health challenge that has been undiagnosed. We
all can say that that is the case and be
totally right.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that should be an explanation maybe, but it should
not be used as your excuse. You know full well
what you were doing when you were calling in the
fake bomb threat. This isn't the thing where you walked
out of the store and realized that the check, the
cashier gave you an extra ten dollars and you just
walked away with it. This was something you I had
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to intentionally set out to do and then go through
several steps to actually accomplish this thing that goes far
beyond the undiagnosed mental health challenge.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like if he I don't know, yeah, I don't know
if there was a path forward for his political future.
But if he if he got up there and said, man,
I got caught up in power.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I wanted more of it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I wanted to be a bigger deal than I was,
and I did this and I'm embarrassed about it, and
that was such a stupid thing for me. That would
go a long way. But what I think about this
person does not matter. And I understand that it would
just be nice to hear some sort of personal accountability
from anyone regarding anything in the next two weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm sorry for what I'm just prepositioning that in case
something a blanket, why not.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
This isn't like an NDA where you can see like
anything I do.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'm sorry for it because I.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Got a couple of working on that. You're gonna love,
You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
When we come back.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
A bunch of sports stories to get to, including the
Dodgers win last night, more baseball games, you got the
Cardinals investigation, you got Tyler Skagg's family finally facing off
with the Angels. All of that is coming up on
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Gold up over four thousand dollars an ounce again. It's
at four thousand and eight dollars an ounce. Pretty amazing.
Gold futures prices gained more than fifty percent just this
year as the global trade system has been threatened apparently
actually people are crediting or blaming depending on how you
look at it, President Trump and the tariffs that have
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been imposed and the threat of the independence of the
Fed Reserve. So again, gold up over four thousand dollars
for the first time today. It's at four thousand and
eight announce right now.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
The Dodgers did it.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They took two from the Phillies in Philadelphia on this
two two one best of five series here and they
come back to Chavez Ravine first pitch tomorrow at six
oh eight.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And then they.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Thought it was going to be more difficult. I mean
that yesterday was a very close game and they almost blew.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
It wasn't, though, And that's that yesterday's game was so
indicative of the Dodgers baseball I've watched, and that the
offense all star lineup produces and produces. I mean they
didn't for a lot of the season. It was kind
of a talking point of how are all these guys
not producing more than two or three runs? But now
the playoffs are here and they are producing, and then
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it just comes down to the bullpen. As long as
you've got the starters pitching in relief. The Dodgers have
been fine, but they brought in Blake Triton and it
was a freaking disaster instead of Sasaki. Yeah, and Dave
Roberts has to wear that decision. But it all ended
up fine. But I mean, it's for nothing going into
the ninth inning and you should be all right, You
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should feel okay.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Four runs should be should be a perfectly fine cushion
to have right the.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bottom of the night seeing it at four to three
and you're going, what the hell is going on? And
that's just that's been the bullpen woes that you've seen
for the majority of the season.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
On the other division series, the Brewers beat the cub
seven to three. They also have a two game lead
over Chicago. They don't play today, they'll play tomorrow again.
American League Division series continue today Mariners Tigers at one
that's in Detroit, and then the Blue Jays Yankees at
five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Blue Jays have two? Do they have two?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah? Them?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
The Blue Jays was a blind spot for me, But
I've got a lot of blind spots because they don't
watch baseball very often.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
But just often enough.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But did you know the Blue Jays were as advertised?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I didn't realize until probably the beginning of September
that they actually led the National League East.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
You could have asked me, I wouldn't was not aware.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
We just, first of all, we don't get a lot
of coverage of coast teams here unless you're watch it,
unless it's a the Yankees or the Red Sox. ESPN
loves Yankees, Red Sox and that they're in plus Canada, right,
Nobody likes Canada, man, I mean, everybody likes Canada, but.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Everybody thinks of Canada as like your little brother.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
The Canadian snowboard snowbirds had a weekend like it was
all about the Canadian snowboar because they were the biggest,
most explosive demonstration. Sure, and so I mean they had
the Florida themselves. They got their flowers. Because usually the
Canadian snowbirds when you bring in you know, the thunderbirds
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or what have you. And we've said it before, oh
they're so cute, and we don't need it that they're cute,
but they.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do appear to be kind of smaller.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They are and sweet and the Canadian and just Canadians.
But this time they were the fire power. They were
the ones they got. They got the top billing.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's the commercial I was talking about the beginning of
the episode. They're directive commercially.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I have not watched a commercial in so many years.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
My husband watches commercials and he'll he'll bring up, you know,
the commercial with the said no, my brain shuts off
with commercials.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't know why, but I'm missing I guess a
lot of good ones.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I wouldn't say good ones, but just notable ones.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, anyway, Canadian snowbirds they're the ones pulling in.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
All the Anyway, they pulled probably a bunch of ass
down there in hidershot.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Last night, Monday Night Football, Jackson War Jacksonville Jaguars improved
to four and one. They beat the Kansas City Chiefs
thirty one to twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But see, in your.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Head, you've got a version of what the Jaguars are
and you've got a version of what the Chiefs are,
and in this season those versions are way off.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, there's a couple of those teams. I mean, Baltimore's
probably another example of that. The expectations going into it. Now,
the Chiefs don't have the same reasons for sucking the
way that Baltimore does. I mean, Lamar Jackson's been on
the sidelines for most of this. But but it's still
Patrick Mahomes. He's still Patrick Mahomes. He still has some.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Great receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
The distance.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Last night, Oh my gosh, I was watching the Manning
cast when that happened, and Heidi Gardner from Saturday Night
Live was their guest, and she's she's very knowledgeable about
the Chiefs and was talking about all these different receivers
that she likes to so she she knows what's going on.
Two that they have well she went through I think
four or five. And it was funny because Peyton pointed
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out she knows the entire depth chart that nobody else knows.
Even Andy Reid doesn't know who his receivers are. But
interception at the goal line and the Jacksonville Jaguars running
all the way back for a touchdown right ninety nine
yards or ninety eight yards whatever it was. And she's
upset because it goes against her team and she's a
big fan. And then as they're kind of making fun
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of her for her outsized reaction to I guess there's
no real outsized reaction to a pick six.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But she goes, he ran all the yards he did.
It was like ninety nine yards. I mean, it wasn't
just a pick funny way to say. It wasn't pick
six on their own thirty. It was a pick six
on the one yard line.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Yeah, you know, he ran all the yards.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'd like to hear you do play by play in
the moment.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I don't do play by play.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's a reason if I hear one more person say Jaguars,
I'm gonna shoot the radio.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
That happened.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't know, but it drives me insane.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
They get away with it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It drives me insane, and I know it. Shouldn't talk
about outsize reactions. You've heard this morning. Somebody said it
here and you said it like this. Your reaction was
like this, Oh, you're a Jaguar person.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I did, and that was me being polite.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yes, that was you holding it in.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It was somebody I liked. I don't know. It may
have been Elmer, Elmer, no way, No.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Can you say the mascot of the Jacksonville football team
right now?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is it the Jaguars?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Jaguars?
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right, all right?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And I shouldn't care. I shouldn't care. I should not
have any reaction to that whatsoever. But I'm irrational and
I suck. I don't have mental health issues I want
to talk about. I just suck.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think you mean undiagnosed mental health challenges. Gary and
Shannon will continue that after this.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm gonna let it slide to Elmer because it is
your birthday, but we don't play Kanye without permission, slit.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Are we also not playing Diddy?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
No, probably not.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I heard Kesha's song in the hallway this morning, wake
Up in the Morning, and then dead air for four seconds,
and then the song picks up again.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
To which I say, really, there's got to be a
better way.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
I thought she re recorded.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I thought so too, but I'm assuming it's kiss that
we were playing in the hallways, but it was dead
air for at least three seconds and a beat.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Would you replace Diddy with wake Up.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
In the Morning?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Feeling like Elmer, I was trying to make that work
and it just wasn't working in my head.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
No, Elmer, ay from one veteran to another. Happy birthday, brother, Hurrah,
enjoy your day, budh.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Look at that very nice. Everyone loves Elmar. A couple
stories that are going on today that we are following.
This medical helicopter that crashed into a highway in Sacramento,
last night. Three people on board were the pilot, the nurse,
and the paramedic. No patience, but all three members turned
into patients. They ended up being put in the hospital
with critical injuries.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Another story we'll get into coming up next.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
From that area, South Lake Tahoe mayor has publicly confessed
to stealing from a church and a surprising letter she
sent to local news outlets over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We'll get into that well.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Also, don't look now, but Gold is at four thousand
dollars an ounce. It's been kind of bouncing up and
down right around that four thousand dollars an ounce level.
I think it peaked a little bit earlier today at
about four thousand and seven dollars, but up twenty three
dollars just today. Gold at four thousand dollars an ounce.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I have a hard time reading this sweeping report that
examined the performance of La County Fire SHAFFS emergency management
agencies in recent fires, specifically the twenty eighteen Woolsey fire,
because it found that the Emergency OPS Center was largely
ineffective in maintaining situal situational awareness, that notification tools were
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not used or used often enough that there was no clear,
single voice on evacuations. It's very troubling to hear that
what I deemed to be the finest firefighting agency in
the world, La County Fire would have a.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Report like this.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's it seems like this is one of the more
frustrating aspects of having covered local municipal governments like this
for so long. The expectation for local municipal governments, for
any level of government, is do the basic things right,
protect us police, fire roads right. Do those things right,
(03:04):
then you can dabble in making recommendations about someone's feelings
or resolutions that condemn in some sort of military action
overseas or something.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I've got to believe it's just too much bureaucracy that exists.
I believe the people for La County Fire know what
the hell they're doing. I believe the Lakini Sheriff's Department
knows what the hell they're doing when it comes to
fires and responses, but that there are too many cooks
in the kitchen when you get to the level of
the emergency op center. Potentially, that's just my hypothesis. That's
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too much bureaucracy, too much red tape, too much politics,
entering into doing things like fighting fires.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So when that Woolsey report came out, there were recommendations
that were made. The problem is a lot of times
people are concerned that these after action reports only have
moderate recommendations. They do not address the underlying systemic problems
that exist in some of these, Like you're saying, by
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bureaucratic morass that is supposed to be a finally highly
responsive active emergency operations center. Kevin McGowan is the director
of La County OEM. He said that they have made
significant progress after they took on the responsibility for the
Emergency Operation Center after the Woolsey fire. He said they
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now they open up the Office of Emergency Management activates sooner.
It's based on threats rather than after a disaster has
taken place, and it also sends out more mass notification.
His office issued more than eighty emergency notification campaigns during
the January firestorms, and by the way, most of them
(04:53):
were right.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm dubious when I get to this quote though from
Kevin McGowan. He says that the report identifies the solution,
which is in his estimation, bolstering his budget and staff.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
To me, that makes me dubious.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I need more bureaucracy, I need more No, if we
need more firefighters, we need more firefighters. We don't need
more people managing firefighters.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And that I think is one of those aspects of
that local municipal government, that is the bravado that you
believe you're supposed to have final say on all of
this sort of thing. The firefighters at work, like you said,
for La County, La City, all of these different agencies,
they know what they need from an Office of Emergency
Management or from a county board of supervisors or whatever,
(05:41):
and most importantly, they know what they need.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
In the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So allow them to dictate what is required of the OEM,
what sort of notifications should be going out, Allow them
to have more of a say in all of this,
and take it out of the hands of some blue
ribbon commission or something like that for people who have
never never lived that life and never done that job.
(06:06):
That's not to say that there's not administrative work that
can be done or is needed to help manage all
of this stuff. But when you're talking about emergency, absolute
tip of the spear, the most engaged that these first
responders are.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Allow them to call the shots right.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
We learned how much we need the tip of the spear.
When the entire offensive line was crippled the Chargers on Sunday.
The tip of the spear was not there, and that
is how you lose the war.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It was broke off at some point.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, South Lake Tahoe. The mayor there admits to stealing
from a church. And that's not the end of it.
We'll tell her story that she told the local media
outlets over the weekend in a surprise letter, we come back.
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Speaker 5 (07:37):
If in fact that's how you if you won this Happy.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Birthday, Elmer, you're the glue that keeps those two together.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
As Marelda from Fontana my birthday too.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Look all these birthdays October going on.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, people were get Let's see what was there we
in October?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So you're trying to figure out when toanky panky.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yes, sir, I like to do this.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I like to pull up songs when people's parents were
having sex to create them.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So since the awful idea, I've done it for you
several times.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
A yellow ribbon round the old oak tree.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You damn right.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
My birthday was on the fourth of October, and before
my mom died, I asked her if I was conceived
on New Year's Eve, maybe you were too, But your
mom was just a couple of days late, so maybe
you were a party.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Also, I gotta say I love nineteen eighty two, right,
that's what we're dealing with. I gotta say I loved
nineteen ninety two music that was like girl R and B,
Heaven and January nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Flavia. What kind of music to Flavi leg.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Uh just bachata, medinge, A lot of Spanish music, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Okay, I don't know day, So I'm going to pull
up the charts of January. It be Januy that he
was conceived, correct, Yeah, January nineteen oh Man, January nineteen
ninety two number one.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Song Boys to Men, End of the Road, followed by
y'all Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, those songs.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, baby making year. That was my first slow song.
I remember dancing to it in the gym with Brian
TIChE in nineteen ninety two. End of the Road. I
was in seventh grade. Wow, and I remember dancing this
far apart full. I've never seen wistful on your face before.
(09:42):
But we were about the same height. That's what I realized.
And he grew.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
South Lake Tahoe mayor Tamra Wallace has confessed to embezzling
funds from a church. According to this lawyer, I'm sorry,
according to this letter. She by the way, sent this
letter out to local news outlets just Sunday night. She
admitted she was stealing money from the Presbyterian Church for
an extended period of time while working for the church
(10:12):
as an administrator. Guilt stricken, she said she attempted suicide
on her birthday back in September. Since then, she's been
in a mental health facility where she's taking medication, participating
in group and individual therapy sessions.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I was telling my husband about this story in the kitchen.
I go, oh, south Lake mayor, South Lake Tahoe mayor.
So she stole from a church, tried to kill herself
over this, and he goes, sounds like a gambling addiction.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I said, let's see if you're right. Click.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I liked that idea. You know South Lake Tahoe. There's
casinos there. You're at Harris, You're at Harvey's. You're gambled
away the church's money. You feel awful about it. You
get into the fireball in the early hours one morning.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Fireball.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
There were also reports yesterday that surfaced that the mayor
pro tem, Cody Bass, was arrested it last month after
an altercation at the Lake Tahoe Aleway.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've been there in state Line. It's a fun place.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He was released from the Douglas County jail early in
the morning next day, the DA in Douglas County charged
him with misdemeanors of trespassing and harassment.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Have you been there recently? State Line area?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
They've gone far over. I was there for the for
the memorial in June, but we were on the This.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Would be a different trip.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah. There's a lot of cute little breweries with outdoor
space and outdoor games that have popped up there around
around state Life, I mean further away from the Nevada
side on the California side, but real good beer and
you know, good.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Corn hole things like that. I have nice little spots.
That was the first time I'd been in Tahoe for
probably twenty years, and obviously for the right, not for
their vacation reason.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I have pulled up the billboard Hot Latin Tracks
number ones of nineteen ninety two in January, the number
one hot Latin track.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Am I getting.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Closer to what Flavia would be into? What you got
with hot Latin tracks?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, okay, maybe a more meo k MIAs ho.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Doo? Yeah? I love what have you done?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That was by Cameo Sesto Sesto. That was the number
one billboard hot Latin track in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, we got to hear if it's sexy or not.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm sure it's probably sexy.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty today.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
By the way, mark's the second anniversary if you can
beleive that of the Hamas massacre from October seventh, Palestinian
terror terrorists marked the occasion by firing a rocket towards
southern Israel today. This projectile did trigger some of the
air raid sirens in Native ha Asarah. They said it
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most likely landed within the community, but didn't cause any injuries,
according to the Israeli Defense Force.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Taylor Swift says she was offered the Super Bowl gig
but turned it down.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
President Trump says the decision to have bad money perform
is a disaster. We'll get into that as well, and
he did. He asked Trump for a pardon. Very clever
by his attorneys, because why not.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I mean, he's done CRAZIERR s Well.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Trump was asked just yesterday again about the possibility of
pardoning Glainne Maxwell, and he said something ridiculous he said, well,
I haven't heard that name in so long.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh, he's trying to make it go away.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
That's trying.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
But he didn't say no, and it just was kind
of equivocal about the whole That is a bridge too far.
The idea that you would pardon somebody like Elane Maxwell.
This is not somebody who was This is not a
book keeper for Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, they're trying to get him to weigh in and
talk publicly about this in any way that they can,
for him to admit that there's something there there that
they have not.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Publicized.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You missed it, by the way, huge asteroid just missed us. Oh,
came within three hundred miles of Earth. That's closer, by.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The way, three hundred miles two.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sixty five was the official count. Nine hundred and sixty miles.
Really close, it's they said, it's closer to the Earth's
surface than the orbit of the International Spaceway.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
When did this happen?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Just a couple days ago October first, and we had
no idea it was headed this.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Wow, Now here's the Because it's relatively small, it's about
a ten foot diameter asteroid they said, dubbed twenty twenty five,
TF like the Fuugh flew over Antarctica in the early
hours of October first, and they said it likely would
have burned up completely before it actually made contact with
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the surface of the Earth if it had made it
into the atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's the closest one I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's pretty close. Yeah, And I don't know. Some asteroid
expert would have to tell me. If it's a direct shot,
I mean, straight down to the surface, is it less
likely to burn up than if it kind of skims
around you know that. I don't know if that makes
any sense, skims through the atmosphere. But Jaguars beat the
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Chiefs thirty one, twenty eight on Monday Night Football last night.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, the Jaguars are a good team and Trevor Lawrence
can fall twice on one play and still score a touchdown.
Between that touchdown and the touchdown between the Cardinals Texan
or Cardinals Titans, most ridiculous touchdowns you've seen.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The interception a touchdown, What a mess. But yeah, the
Chiefs have some real issues. And I know that. We
always say, oh, it's it's early in the season.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
By week seven, week eight, we can start talking seriously
about the chiefs.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
They always work it out.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They've got some serious issues that don't get worked out,
but we'll see, all right. Brian Williams, former deputy mayor
of public safety under Karen Bass. The mayor has been
sentenced to probation for calling it a fake bomb threat.
And again you get the mental health issue. As you
heard in Deborah's news umbrella, Oh, I had mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Why do people always.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
You know, and we just talked about the mayor in
South Lake Time, Oh, I have mental health issues. Why
doesn't anyone ever come out and just say I fed up?
Or I suck?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I am a bad person. I suck.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I made a bad decision, I had a bad day.
I did something stupid. I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I don't even know who that guy was that day
that did that, but that sucked. And I'm sorry. I
just and I understand that mental health issues exist. I
just feel like they're used as a shield often, or
maybe more often, or maybe we're talking about it more often.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's always existed.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I do feel like people use them as an excuse
for bad decisions.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yes, And I would just like more accountability.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't think that would be awful, and that goes
from the top down, more accountability, from the president to politicians,
to people and other people in power.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Just saying I screwed up. I mean, you would get so.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Much goodwill sent your way if you and I understand
there's things about liability and legal liability and admitting that
you suck and that it was your fault, and that's
it opens you up to lawsuits and that if you
can have an excuse, use the excuse, if you can deny, deny,
But how refreshing it would be for someone to take
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to a podium and say, I suck, I made an
awful decision.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's on me.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
But uh yes, I would want that as well.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There is a weird mechanism though, or there's a difference
between an interpersonal acceptance of responsibility and a public acceptance
of responsibility. If I do something to wrong you, if
I do something that's totally wrong single day, yes, and
at one o'clock and I said to you as we're
walking out, hey, I'm really sorry. I completely blew those
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four hours and I apologize. That's different than.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Or just maybe a small apology for the ass jokes
that's not gonna it's not gonna happen. No, those are
those are important.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I would satire sometimes it's important. But if people don't
do that on a on a more public scale, if
you offend more than one person, it's a lot harder
for somebody to come out and go, I completely blew this.
(19:03):
I apologize. I never should have insert name of transgression here. Yeah,
and I'll do my best to never have let it
happen again, as opposed to.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
What is it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I have an undiagnosed mental health challenge that I'm working through,
and you may, by the way, that's the other part
about it is you may have a mental health challenge
that you haven't a coravenient.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Everybody could argue that they have a mental health issue
or challenge not even an issue. Everyone could argue they
have a mental health challenge that has been undiagnosed. We
all can say that that is the case and be
totally right.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that should be an explanation maybe, but it should
not be used as your excuse. You know full well
what you were doing when you were calling in the
fake bomb threat. This isn't the thing where you walked
out of the store and realized that the check, the
cashier gave you an extra ten dollars and you just
walked away with it. This was something you I had
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to intentionally set out to do and then go through
several steps to actually accomplish this thing that goes far
beyond the undiagnosed mental health challenge.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like if he I don't know, yeah, I don't know
if there was a path forward for his political future.
But if he if he got up there and said, man,
I got caught up in power.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I wanted more of it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I wanted to be a bigger deal than I was,
and I did this and I'm embarrassed about it, and
that was such a stupid thing for me. That would
go a long way. But what I think about this
person does not matter. And I understand that it would
just be nice to hear some sort of personal accountability
from anyone regarding anything in the next two weeks.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm sorry for what I'm just prepositioning that in case
something a blanket, why not.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
This isn't like an NDA where you can see like
anything I do.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'm sorry for it because I.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Got a couple of working on that. You're gonna love,
You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
When we come back.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
A bunch of sports stories to get to, including the
Dodgers win last night, more baseball games, you got the
Cardinals investigation, you got Tyler Skagg's family finally facing off
with the Angels. All of that is coming up on
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Gold up over four thousand dollars an ounce again. It's
at four thousand and eight dollars an ounce. Pretty amazing.
Gold futures prices gained more than fifty percent just this
year as the global trade system has been threatened apparently
actually people are crediting or blaming depending on how you
look at it, President Trump and the tariffs that have
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been imposed and the threat of the independence of the
Fed Reserve. So again, gold up over four thousand dollars
for the first time today. It's at four thousand and
eight announce right now.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
The Dodgers did it.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They took two from the Phillies in Philadelphia on this
two two one best of five series here and they
come back to Chavez Ravine first pitch tomorrow at six
oh eight.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And then they.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Thought it was going to be more difficult. I mean
that yesterday was a very close game and they almost blew.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
It wasn't, though, And that's that yesterday's game was so
indicative of the Dodgers baseball I've watched, and that the
offense all star lineup produces and produces. I mean they
didn't for a lot of the season. It was kind
of a talking point of how are all these guys
not producing more than two or three runs? But now
the playoffs are here and they are producing, and then
(22:39):
it just comes down to the bullpen. As long as
you've got the starters pitching in relief. The Dodgers have
been fine, but they brought in Blake Triton and it
was a freaking disaster instead of Sasaki. Yeah, and Dave
Roberts has to wear that decision. But it all ended
up fine. But I mean, it's for nothing going into
the ninth inning and you should be all right, You
(23:00):
should feel okay.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Four runs should be should be a perfectly fine cushion
to have right the.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bottom of the night seeing it at four to three
and you're going, what the hell is going on? And
that's just that's been the bullpen woes that you've seen
for the majority of the season.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
On the other division series, the Brewers beat the cub
seven to three. They also have a two game lead
over Chicago. They don't play today, they'll play tomorrow again.
American League Division series continue today Mariners Tigers at one
that's in Detroit, and then the Blue Jays Yankees at
five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Blue Jays have two? Do they have two?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah? Them?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
The Blue Jays was a blind spot for me, But
I've got a lot of blind spots because they don't
watch baseball very often.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
But just often enough.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But did you know the Blue Jays were as advertised?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I didn't realize until probably the beginning of September
that they actually led the National League East.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
You could have asked me, I wouldn't was not aware.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
We just, first of all, we don't get a lot
of coverage of coast teams here unless you're watch it,
unless it's a the Yankees or the Red Sox. ESPN
loves Yankees, Red Sox and that they're in plus Canada, right,
Nobody likes Canada, man, I mean, everybody likes Canada, but.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Everybody thinks of Canada as like your little brother.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
The Canadian snowboard snowbirds had a weekend like it was
all about the Canadian snowboar because they were the biggest,
most explosive demonstration. Sure, and so I mean they had
the Florida themselves. They got their flowers. Because usually the
Canadian snowbirds when you bring in you know, the thunderbirds
(24:34):
or what have you. And we've said it before, oh
they're so cute, and we don't need it that they're cute,
but they.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do appear to be kind of smaller.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They are and sweet and the Canadian and just Canadians.
But this time they were the fire power. They were
the ones they got. They got the top billing.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's the commercial I was talking about the beginning of
the episode. They're directive commercially.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I have not watched a commercial in so many years.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
My husband watches commercials and he'll he'll bring up, you know,
the commercial with the said no, my brain shuts off
with commercials.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't know why, but I'm missing I guess a
lot of good ones.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I wouldn't say good ones, but just notable ones.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, anyway, Canadian snowbirds they're the ones pulling in.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
All the Anyway, they pulled probably a bunch of ass
down there in hidershot.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Last night, Monday Night Football, Jackson War Jacksonville Jaguars improved
to four and one. They beat the Kansas City Chiefs
thirty one to twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But see, in your.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Head, you've got a version of what the Jaguars are
and you've got a version of what the Chiefs are,
and in this season those versions are way off.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, there's a couple of those teams. I mean, Baltimore's
probably another example of that. The expectations going into it. Now,
the Chiefs don't have the same reasons for sucking the
way that Baltimore does. I mean, Lamar Jackson's been on
the sidelines for most of this. But but it's still
Patrick Mahomes. He's still Patrick Mahomes. He still has some.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Great receiver.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
The distance.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Last night, Oh my gosh, I was watching the Manning
cast when that happened, and Heidi Gardner from Saturday Night
Live was their guest, and she's she's very knowledgeable about
the Chiefs and was talking about all these different receivers
that she likes to so she she knows what's going on.
Two that they have well she went through I think
four or five. And it was funny because Peyton pointed
(26:24):
out she knows the entire depth chart that nobody else knows.
Even Andy Reid doesn't know who his receivers are. But
interception at the goal line and the Jacksonville Jaguars running
all the way back for a touchdown right ninety nine
yards or ninety eight yards whatever it was. And she's
upset because it goes against her team and she's a
big fan. And then as they're kind of making fun
(26:45):
of her for her outsized reaction to I guess there's
no real outsized reaction to a pick six.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But she goes, he ran all the yards he did.
It was like ninety nine yards. I mean, it wasn't
just a pick funny way to say. It wasn't pick
six on their own thirty. It was a pick six
on the one yard line.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Yeah, you know, he ran all the yards.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'd like to hear you do play by play in
the moment.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I don't do play by play.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There's a reason if I hear one more person say Jaguars,
I'm gonna shoot the radio.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
That happened.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't know, but it drives me insane.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
They get away with it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It drives me insane, and I know it. Shouldn't talk
about outsize reactions. You've heard this morning. Somebody said it
here and you said it like this. Your reaction was
like this, Oh, you're a Jaguar person.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I did, and that was me being polite.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yes, that was you holding it in.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It was somebody I liked. I don't know. It may
have been Elmer, Elmer, no way, No.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Can you say the mascot of the Jacksonville football team
right now?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is it the Jaguars?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Jaguars?
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right, all right?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And I shouldn't care. I shouldn't care. I should not
have any reaction to that whatsoever. But I'm irrational and
I suck. I don't have mental health issues I want
to talk about. I just suck.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I think you mean undiagnosed mental health challenges. Gary and
Shannon will continue that after this.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
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