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September 29, 2025 32 mins
Gary and Shannon dive into the shifting beverage market as beer sales decline across the U.S., then unpack the tragic murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and its eerie ties to singer D4vd. The duo samples a rising “emotional utility beverage” live on air before turning to LA’s struggling tourism industry. Later, they cover reports of land movement in Rancho Palos Verdes, the return of McDonald’s Monopoly with a digital twist, and an investigation into a mysterious Inland Empire religious group. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bill, Bill, Why just said? Bill? Jim, Dave, Dave?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Should we do ordinary guy names on this Monday? What's
your favorite ordinary guy name?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Is it Bill? Is it Bob? Is it Dave? I'm
partial to Jeff. You like Jeff? Yea Jeff, My name
is Dave.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
You know what happened downside? It's a funny meme when
my name is Jeff.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
See if you were not forty something years old, you
know that, I know, I know. Well that's why Elmer
would Elmer keeps us current right? You know? He drags
us is current day?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yes, he is not a He is not an ordinary dude.
Name Elmer is Elmer. You're a family name.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Elmer.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Uh, it's a it's a clown's name.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Uh tell me more.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, my mom named me after her favorite clown.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
And where where was this clown living?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'd say like maybe nineteen forties, nineteen fifties Dominican Republic.
You know, just a normal clown, I guess in the bodio.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, well, you know what you're kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I mean clown in a good way, like you make
me smile and laugh, you know, like a clown.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, no, it fits perfectly.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I hated it as a kid, but now I feel
like it's you know, like I.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Got to track this down. Elmer, the clown from the
DR I mean, I'll help you there.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Let's see, there was a rodeo clown name Elmer Holcombe.
There was a clown called Crazy Elmer. None of these
are from the DR though. I'm gonna track this down
and we're gonna get to the bottom of this. What
I meant to say instead of Bill or Bob or

(02:04):
Dave is that beer sales are officially on the decline
in America.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I did what I could.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
You have done what you could, and you had did
not do enough. Like you were like the Americans at
the Ryder Cup. You were trying so hard but you
fell short short.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah. Well, I mean think about the soda slash bubbly
water slash drinks with hemp or CBD or like. There's
so many other options for people. The social tonics, the
social tonics, that's another one. Have you had one of those?
I still haven't. Oh, I'm curious as my wife.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
She's what it has?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, she's what about it?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But yeah, wow, that's shocking to me. Especially summer, you'd
think beer sales would be up. We're getting into fall
into beer seams.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Also, didn't you say that michelob Ultra zero is like
one of the hottest selling beers now and by beer
put finger quotes around.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I was at Yankee Stadium on Saturday and people were
drinking those mikelobe zeros and I want to be like,
what the hell is the point?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And how much does that cost? How much does it cost?
It does nothing? Like what's going on? I don't know.
I don't know. There is an update on the very
You don't.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
End up on the floor drinking a michelobe zero what
are you even doing? You don't end up making awful
decisions and ruining.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Your life, Like, why would you drink that? If you're
gonna have a beverage, make it count, right, That's what
was going on in my head. Put yourself in a really,
I said, that doesn't do anything? I know?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
All right?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
We have an update on the very strange story regarding
Celeste Revas Hernandez and David the artist. We know that
her remains were found in the trunk of a car
that was registered to David Anthony Burke. The and she,

(04:20):
the young girl, has been had been, i should say,
reported missing multiple times now. On August twenty seventh, the
car was marked for a seventy two hour parking violation
on Bluebird Avenue up on the Hollywood Hills. On the third,
there was a ticket issued for overstaying the seventy two
hour limit. On the fifth, the car was impounded and towed,

(04:42):
And then on the eighth, somebody realized that there was
a smell coming from the car that turned out to
be her decomposing body. This thing, this car had been
ticketed eleven days before the body was found. Some people

(05:03):
had complained about this car for days in late August,
by the time somebody even marked it for that seventy
two hour potential violation. Now they're trying to figure out
how long was it there? Again, we know that it
was marked on the twenty seventh, but how many times
had neighbors called and said that this car was parked there? Now, Listen,

(05:24):
it doesn't change the story, It doesn't save the girls lit.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
The only thing is it shines a light on the
fact that the LAPD does not care if your car
is parked in a residential area for too long if
they don't see it, especially you get up into the
Hollywood Hills.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Nobody wants to get up into the Hollywood Hills.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's not like the LAPD is going to patrol their
special to find cars that are violating parking rules.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean it's a mess to get up there in
some of those streets.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So you know, you can see where you could get
away with parking a car for a month and a
half because it's not a high traffic area if you're
going up there, up there for a party or you
live there.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, this is and the story it doesn't get any better.
There's no part of this that has been fulfilling or
relieving in any way. It's just an awful story about
this girl who appears to have been in this relationship
with this older guy. Somebody knows something.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's only a matter of time, you would think, all right,
Tourism in Los Angeles is down.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Huh. I wonder why, you don't know. I can think
of a few reasons.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
But also said in the La Times, fewer international visitors
made for a desolate summer in La it's a little.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Dramatic, very dramatic. We'll also give you a shot at
one thousand dollars. Where did we find all this money?
I walked in there. It was just stacked up in
the corner. I don't know who's.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Desolate, deserted of people and in a state of bleak
and dismal emptiness. Not Los Angeles, La Times. I wish
it was.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
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Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like a case of it out there in the hallway
near like the recreational waters that are out there for
guests and things.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
This is the stuff that's overtaking the beer industry.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're talking about all the drinks and things that have
you know, social tonic, fizzy water, whatever else you said.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I found one out there.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's a can, a tall skinny can, which is very
in right now, right e.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Very white clothish.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Eu B Emotional utility beverage is what it's called, Okay, sparkling,
mood boosting beverage, mood and motivation. It's a mango passion fruit.
Do you want to know what's in it? This is
this is what's overtaking beer. This is why things are

(07:56):
changing in this world. In this eu B, the emotional
utility beverage is Organic Lion's main Mushroom.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm not making this up like this is not a bit.
It really says.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Organic Lion Mainz MUSHROOMA promotes neuron growth and enhances emotional resilience.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Are you looking at me?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
N Acetyl l tyrosine supports mood and cognition during high
stress situations. L theanine enhances attention and cognitive function while
supporting effective stress management. And then organic Green tea. And
then there's a little graph here. It says the science

(08:46):
of Emotion.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I notice you have not opened it and are not
ingesting said liquid.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
It says bridging the gap between you and yourself.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Wow, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I would like you to try this. I'm gonna chill
it now because it's warm. I don't think you want
it warm?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I don't know? Do you want to how people drink it?
Do you want to enhance your mood?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Warm?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I don't. I don't know. You want to try it? Sure?

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It just smells like mango passion for it. Yes, that's
what it is. Remember this is bridging the gap between
you and yourself.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh what is it? What does it taste like? Does
it taste like positivity? Does it taste is your mood enhanced? Well,
it's a it's green tea based. So I'm not a
huge tea guy.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
How's your stress? I just went away? Whoa, it's I'm
not that. You look a little bit more peaceful.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
More? No?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
What No, No, it doesn't taste good. I'm not a fan.
I'm not a fan. It's it's it's it's not sweet
enough to be a soda, but it's also too sweet
to be just like a sparkling water with a whiff
race happy medium.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
No, no for me, it's not for you, No, no, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
But what do you feel? Nothing? I feel like you've
tricked me. That's what I feel, all right?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Los Angeles, they say, is suffering a downturn when it
comes to tourism. As the La Times writes it up,
months of negative news have triggered a tough summer for tourism.
Tourist arrivals fell by close to ten percent this season.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
They said.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Images of the destructive Eton and Palisades fires followed by
the immigration crackdown made global news and repelled visitors.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do you think that's what it was? Or do you
think it is.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
The cost and the plight and the lack of any
sort of tourism friendly transit.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
There's that people come from other countries or large cities
where public transit works and works well, they come here
and they.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Just walk around, like, where's a place where you can
walk around? And I know, I'm fresh off of coming
out of New York and taking the subway everywhere and
it being a walkable city and you can walk everywhere
and it's glorious, and La is and not that is
the opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
It is spread out.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
But like where in LA other than you know, maybe
some of the beach cities where you would go just
to walk around and enjoy yourself and it's pretty and
it's cool.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't know how you write an article like this
without actually talking to people who have canceled trips to
Los Angeles and ask them specifically, why don't you come
to La.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Instead, they talked to a guy named Salem Ausman who
works for Ride Like a Star. What that company is
is you rent Ferraris and Porsches for about two hundred
dollars an hour. Salim says that this summer traffic drop
by nearly fifty percent. Now, Gary, you and I, we

(12:52):
are both adults. We have traveled. Have you ever gone
to Austin? You loved Austin, Nashville, New York? Anywhere and said,
you know what, family, you know what we should do
is rent a Ferrari and drive around like that is
not a typical tourist place for the LA Times to

(13:12):
cite the most esoteric tourist experience as their barometer for
tourism is insane. If you want to talk about tourism
down go to Disneyland, go to Universal Studios, go to
the go to Hollywood or whatever. Talk to a guy
who works as a magician or Elmer, the clown on

(13:34):
the Walk of Fame, and be like, hey, have there
been fewer people that guy's word all take more than
a guy who runs a luxury vehicle tourism. Rent my
Porsche for two hundred dollars and drive around like, who
is that tourist?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I I was also fascinated by They said. Visitors from China, India,
and Germany avoided California, but risingly, tourists from Mexico didn't
stay away. That tourists from Mexico went up five point
four percent despite ice raids, they said, which often targeted
Latino people. There was a dip in traffic to most

(14:14):
LA airports as well, well part of them. I mean,
you've got LA Burbank, Ontario, Long Beach, and Orange County, right,
John Wayne. Some of those are awful airports. LAX is
the one that everybody thinks of. Nobody knows how localized

(14:36):
some of those others are and how easy they are
to get in and out of So yeah, I understand
how traffic at airports in la is down, But again
I think that this article needs to hear from the
people who had planned to come to California and decided
not to and ask them why didn't you come to California.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Denzel Washington's name is in this article because they're talking about,
you know, the concrete hand prints outside the Chinese theater
there in Hollywood. Do you know that we've been pronouncing
Denzel Washington's name wrong our whole lives, and it's because
of his mother. I read this article last week. It's Denzil.
Denzil is his name, Denzel Washington, And the reason we

(15:19):
pronounce it Denzel, it's not because we're whitey Mick Whiderson.
It's because his mother had to differentiate between he and
his father. So Denzil is his dad, and she wanted
to differentiate when she'd call her son versus when she
called her husband. So she put the emphasis on Zelzell.
Denzel that funny.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
So so we've been saying it like we're calling We've
been saying it like his mother.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So he's been in trouble with all of America in
the world for thirty years.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Rancho Palace verd is maybe slipping into the ocean quickly
quicker than you thought. That's good.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I thought you said there was any good news on
this program. Oh, we've got cult news coming up. I
love a cults. They're always fun. I love a cult.
I can see how you'd get into one of these.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
President Trump said he's going to direct the Pentagon to
send troops to Portland, Oregon, in order to protect a
federal facilities sit in a post on truth Social over
the weekend that he's ordering Pete Hegseth to use the
military to protect ice facilities, which he said were under
siege from attack by Antifa. Also at the White House,

(16:36):
President is hosting Benjamin Netanyahu. They're expected to be talking
about a twenty one point piece plan. The President's also
supposed to be talking with leaders in caught Her today.
They have served as the intermediaries with Hamas that news
conference by the way, between Trump and Netanyah, who is
expected to take place any any minute now. Well, residents

(16:57):
in Ranchow Palace Verde's got yet another huge problem over
the weekend when a big chunk of bluff dropped about
fifty to sixty feet. Nobody got hurt, amazingly because nobody
was in their backyard at the time. It looked like
but and none of the homes were damaged, but they
According to the city's website, there was significant soil movement

(17:18):
that resulted in damage to several backyards. Happened about eight
o'clock eight thirty right along Marguerite Drive near PV Drive West.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, the people who felt it said it was noticeable,
like a I don't know if that means it felt
like an earthquake or.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Just walked outside and was like, huh, that has moved
what I don't. I mean, listen, this is an area
that has moved repeatedly for decades now, and we've seen
that with road closures and I mean just the way
that it is, the way that it is built out
there on that peninsula. The assumption though, is that it's

(17:58):
going to be caused by water, rainfall kind of stuff,
and there hasn't been any. So that's that's the weird
part about this. There's more than enough problems out there.
There are a few hundred homes that are perched on
hillsides along this whole thing. But the beauty of the area,
the beauty, the views, all of it comes with a price,

(18:20):
and in this case, the potential for the hillside to
just slough off into the ocean. You know, you don't
get this.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You don't have to worry about this in Valley Village,
you know what I mean. This doesn't happen in North Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, you might get to.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Enjoy yourself on a Saturday night at Star Gardens. You
might get a sinkhole. If you got that, that's it.
If you gotta just scratch in your in your pocket.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You really don't need that.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
You can go to Star Garden. Well, Saturday night, Gary,
go on, that's gonna cost you?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Is it? Really?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
It's not the it's not the Tuesday morning at ten
am that you're used to.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
What's the cover to get into Star Gardens on a
Saturday night?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I would say girls get in free? Obvious.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Maybe if you bring a girl, your twenty dollars coverage
is not covers knocked down to fifteen something like that. Okay,
let's say maybe about fifteen. But if you know somebody,
like like I knew somebody at Magic City, I could
just get in, You know, I could get in people.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You got to know the.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Door guy the deal at these places. If we could
meet the guy who runs the door at Star Garden,
that would be uh, that would be great if we
could get If we could get the guy who runs
the door at Star Garden on the show, I would
love that the stories he could tell. But anyway, back

(19:42):
to my original point. You live in Valley Village. You
go enjoy yourself on a Saturday night at Star Garden.
You don't have to worry about waking up and your
home shifting into the ocean.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You wake up and you're wondering which diner to get
at your breakfast at?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
After a good night at the Star Garden, where do
you take her? Do you take her to a local spot?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well? First of all, I took her to Star Gardens. No, no, no,
you took her home from Stargarden. That's what I mean. Oh, oh,
I see what you're saying. Oh fell in love with
a stripper? You fell in love with a stripper. Story
of my life.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
But go on, your wife is a really good dancer.
I would not be surprised if she was a stripper.
I say that with love in my heart.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, am I going to get in trouble? I don't know. No,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
No. Mandatory evacuations were ordered there in Rancho Palace Verdes.
They say, these houses are built on rock, a solid ground.
The homes are safe. Every now and then a section
may fall in, they say.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
But the homes are safe. Fine, It's been that way
for thousands of years. But they said that a large,
seemingly continuous slide that began in the port he's been
neighborhood back in nineteen fifty six has destroyed quote hundreds
of homes. But in this case, everything's fine. All of

(21:09):
this has picked up noticeably in the last couple of years.
We mentioned that there have been roads that have had
to be closed and fixed, officials that have had to cut
off utilities. They've read tagged at least twenty more homes,
meaning nobody can go into them until the threat is addressed,
which sometimes means you just never go back into that home.
Unfortunately for you.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Two men have disappeared, a child has died, and police
are now investigating this Inland Empire religious group that some
investigators describe as cult like. It's called His Way Spirit
led assemblies and two members have been reported missing for

(21:52):
a handful of years.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
We'll dig into this cult. I love a cult. And
this is local fence update. By the way, Oh maybe
that's what I think I bruised myself.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
So oh yeah, Gary has a mysterious bruise and he
was not at Star Garden this weekend.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
So there's really no reason for it. With all of
the supplies that I've had to buy, all of the lumber,
the fence pickets, the posts and everything everything, oh yeah,
including two new saws, a minor saw on a table saw.
I am still under eleven hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Wow, and they were going to charge fiftifteen. Yeah, incredible,
look at that. You tell you took a little about
a little bit of that elder berry sparkle, mood enhandsler and.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Emotional smiling naturally over there. There was also a very
very funny moment on Saturday afternoon, when it's probably four
or five. I've been working all day on this thing,
just doing little trim pieces and making sure that it
all works. I notice my corn I'm looking out like
my little pool equipment is in the corner of the

(23:03):
yard and on the opposite side of the wall. The
cinder block fence is the neighbor's pool equipment, and I
noticed the neighbor. She's shorter than the fence, but I
see the top of her head as she comes into
her little area where the pool equipment is, and her
head peeks up over the fence because she wants to

(23:25):
see what we're doing. And if I wasn't, like, we
all do that. We're all nosy and we want to
check out other things. But when she looked over the fence,
I was standing right there. Oh, and she goes, oh,
I didn't know you were there. And I said, hey,
do you want to come see what we're doing? And

(23:45):
she's like, I would love to, but she she could
see from over the fence. Did you call her a
nosy parker? No, I did not. She's a very delightful person.
But it was very funny because I clear, I know
she did not expect to see me there, and I
was standing right on the other side when she looked over.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Your wife, who may or may not have been a stripper,
sent me a picture of your doors.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
They're gorgeous American vision windows.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh my gosh, I didn't know doors could look that good.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, very very cool. They're incredibly beautiful. Yeah, those guys
were in and out.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh yeah, they're efficient. If they do not mess around,
they get in, they get out, no one gets hurt.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It was.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
All right. Coming up next, more stuffs, cults.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I have some good news. Would you like it? Why
would you hold it back?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I don't know why I even thought about it. McDonald's
is rebooting Monopoly. That's right, the contest. Yes, okay, the
contest got a cultural phenomenon. I would say, sure, even
the subject of scandal, remember the scandal. The monopoly is

(25:02):
returning to us McDonald's October six for a limited time,
but it's not going to be the way we remember
because now everything is digital. Right, That physical board to
track peeled off pieces is not coming back. Unfortunately, the
game getting that digital makeover. So it's largely played in
the McDonald's app for registered members of its loyalty program. Yes,

(25:25):
it's a pretty good loyalty program. They do like free
fries from time to time. I enjoy it, free nuggets
all that. Anyway, the physical game pieces will appear on
some food items like the large fries, it can be
peeled and then scanned into the app to redeem.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
But then you know, if all.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Pieces of a property are collected, customers can redeem prizes,
free food, bonus reward points. Some of the largest prizes
include one million American Airlines, miles, Jeep Grand Cherokee. There
is a million dollar cash prize for one players. So
they're hoping that this will kind of spur sales, and

(26:04):
I think it will. People love this game. The scandal,
by the way, this was a scam that began in
nineteen eighty nine. It was two thousand and one when
the FBI received an anonymous tip that several of the
million dollar winners for the McDonald's Lottery game of McDonald's
Monopoly game the million dollar winners were related. So the

(26:26):
FBI looks into this and they end up arresting eight
people for rigging the game by controlling the distribution of
the high prize pieces, bilking more than twenty million from McDonald's.
The ringleader was a guy from Georgia named Jerome Jacobson,
known as Uncle Jerry. Uncle Jerry was charged with multiple
counts of mail fraud. He was a security guard with

(26:49):
Simon Marketing, the company that McDonald's used to run the
promotional contest, including the Monopoly game. So he was accused
of embezzling these high value game pieces from the company
and then selling them to people who would redeem them
so he would charge like fifty thousand in cash for
the one million dollar game pieces. Anyway, there was a

(27:10):
documentary about the whole thing on HBO a handful of
years ago.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
And he thought he was going to get away with
it any day. Those meddling kids, damn Yeah. There is
a group called His Way spirit Led Assemblies back in
the Inland Empire, and about fifteen years ago a little
boy died. He died actually from a septic shock from

(27:36):
a rupture appendix. And when he was actually staying with
Darryl Martin Darryl Music Martin and his wife, Shelley Catherine Martin,
leaders of this religious group. Mom may have had some problems,
so these two were watching the boy. There are also
some allegations that supposedly Daryl was telling the kid not

(27:59):
to throw up and to swallow it, basically, how to
hold your hand over your mouth so that you wouldn't
vomit back in twenty ten, they did call the paramedics
because the boy had become on responsive at one point,
and again they figured out he had a rupture appendix
and he eventually was going to die from what turns

(28:21):
out to be this septic infection. This group was This
was the beginning of the spotlight on this group of
His Way spirit led assemblies, and since they have been
on the radar of law enforcement, they have drawn a

(28:41):
lot of attention. This guy, Darryl Music Martin identifies himself
as the group's pastor. Catherine refers to herself as a
prophetess and a gifted oracle, and they talk about all
night prayer, shut ins, emotional religious songs. In August, police
in Redlands raided a home in Hemmett believed to have

(29:03):
been used by this group and recovered a bunch of
guns ghost guns automatic rifles. Those are illegal. They also
detained the Martins. They detained Daryl and Catherine, but no
charges have been filed against them.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Group members have been uncooperative with the investigation. They give
conflicting testimony. Several members have parted ways with the group
and said that their original testimony was made under duress
from the group's leaders. They are also digging into the
disappearance of a longtime member named Amelia Gannam, who was

(29:39):
reported missing in Redlands May twenty three. They did find
his truck and other unspecified evidence, but they're looking at
this as a possible homicide, and they're looking at the
group its leaders. It's mentors all about that.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Police and Claremont are also looking for a guy who
was a connected with the group in some way. Reuben
Moreno was reported back in twenty nineteen. Again law enforcement
started looking into this. They will call it a cult
like I don't know what exactly requires, what the requirement

(30:16):
be to be dilabeled a cult, but his way spirit
led Assemblies was on law enforcement radar in twenty ten.
A detective then expressed concern over allegations of child abuse
and said that the home had the appearance of a
cult like ministry. That was way back when fifteen years
ago when little Timothy died. So there was another time

(30:38):
in Hemmet August sixth, the neighbors were jolted awake by
flash bangrenades. Redlands police, with the help of the FBI,
tried to get into the Hemmet base of this his
way spirit led assemblies as part of their investigation into
the original missing person that you were talking about from
twenty thirteen, No one came out of the home. It

(30:59):
went on for several hours. Ours four people were eventually
arrested or I should say detained, two of them booked
on unrelated weapons charges, and that's where they found a
bunch of illegal guns, including the fully converted, the converted
fully automatic rifles, some short barreled rifles, and unseerialized ghost guns,
which doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of

(31:19):
a cult. That's I didn't know that you needed that
unless you feel like you're being victimized and that someone's
coming for you. So cults are always fun to talk about.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Are they are?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But I mean I want to hear more about what
they am googling them or what they believe in, Like
what's their thing, what's their deal, what's their gospel?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let me go out on a limb and suggest that
you have to have sex with the pastor ah, oh,
I know, but I mean it feels like the ones
that rise to the level of hitting our radar or.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
God and if he's a conduit, you know, it's like
having sex with God.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I believe that's what they say in the cults. In
the cults, Okay, I would get bored with that.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
With having sex with the pastor probably yeah, not your thing.
We all have our things. That's not yours.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's just not mine. I mean, listen, if you want
to do it, you know who might equibble.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
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