January 2, 2026 • 27 mins
Ring in the New Year with a Best Of edition of Gary & Shannon— packed with the show’s most memorable moments from 2026. From sharp perspectives on the year’s biggest stories to laugh-out-loud conversations, this curated collection brings you the highlights you don’t want to miss, perfect for keeping you company over the holiday break.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Saying goodbye can be very tough. That's why we've decided
to do it here. What well, I'm just what I
mean is you fire me before the holidays? I wrote
to talk about when people say goodbye. I would have
at least done my hair. Time magazine have a name
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for ending an interaction, the leave taking behavior. How would
you describe your leave taking behavior? I just leave.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't say goodbye to anyone usually ever, I just go.
I've noticed because if you're gonna say goodbye, you got
to do all the goodbyes. It gets a little laborious. Yeah, repetitive,
too much? And did people really care that you're leaving? Probably?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, people care that you're leaving.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
When have you noticed me doing this?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Okay, I'll say this. I know I've picked up some
physical cues about when you're ready to go. Okay, some
of them are super obvious and listen. Most of the
context I would say has been business. It's been company
related as opposed to just a social event. But the
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company related things you make no bones about it. You
didn't want to be there in the first place.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
What like what like a meeting?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's exactly what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Nobody wants to be in a meeting.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We did an event one time at Delilah. Do you
remember that.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I remember the event. I don't remember the leaving.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it was you tried to go out the side
door that they didn't let you go out. Oh remember that.
You're like, Oh, I'll just go back to out through
the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's not ideal, Oh, cooky kitchen.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I recently left an event where I left you and
I went out a side door. Yeah, because I saw
you going out the main way and there were a
lot of obstacles I e people to say goodbye to
and I saw your path and I thought, that's not
my path, that is not the path for me. So
I did go out the side door in that in
(02:27):
that situation.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So something could have happened to me and you would
not have and I've been able to help.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Does it make it better that I did feel bad
about not joining you on the path?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh, well, how do you say goodbye?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
What should I do?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The most important thing, according to Amy Arius, a senior lecturer,
of communications studies at you and University of that arena.
Don't over explain, don't don't use a bunch of overqualifiers.
Don't hedge. Don't say it looks like it's about time
to go. Oh, probably should be getting going. The dog's
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probably looking for dinner right about now. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Gotta let the dogs out. I hear that all the
time from dog, I gotta take the dogs out, got
to take the dogs for.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
A walk, Gotta do the dog. I get it. It's like,
you can't use your kids for that. And also we've aged.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Out of having young kids at home, but like it
used to be kids, Oh, we got to get home
the sitter.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We got to get home for the sitter. We gotta
get home.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And now it's dogs, and it's like, got to take
the dog's frog. It's like, okay, I get it, you're leaving.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I don't care. You got to take the dog for
a walk.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's it. Just go don't over explain. Everybody knows. There's
a limit. Everybody knows, especially like if you're if you're
hosting friends of for uh or during the week. Yeah,
and everybody's got to go to work the next day.
You know there's a time it gets past eight o'clock.
You could go at any time. Now, if the conversation
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is flowing and you don't have a problem, you're not
yawning or something like that, stay as long as you want.
That's but but if somebody decided after a certain time
that they're going to pick up and go, you don't
have to ask why. Right, it's obvious why, so don't
over explain. That's the first part. The second part express gratitude.
Thank you so much for having me. Okay, that's a
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little wordy.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I usually say that, I'll say that, I'll say thank
you so much for having me, but and I mean it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
They said, this usually means a couple of words amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Party, that's a lie, amazing is so overused, had a
blast a blast overused.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Such fun, but something like that. That is an expression
of gratitude.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
This was great.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How about just saying something that's honest? This was great,
this was super cool. I loved this. I'm leaving like anything. Again,
I don't even if to can it, you have to
put it in the can.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So they said that again, amy Arius. Again, this communications
professor says, as you're saying by keep it short and sweet.
Two words for each two words to announce that you're leaving,
not why, just that you're and then two words to
express gratitude.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Do you understand what we're talking about right now? We
are so socially altered that we don't even know how
to say goodbye. We need a freaking owner's manual with
canned responses for good night.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Everybody, Like, what the hell is wrong with us?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What did COVID break in our brains where we cannot
handle a simple hello or goodbye? Like we can't figure
out how to say hello in the elevator on our
way up here, and we can't leave a party without
just saying.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Thank you goodbye.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's as simple as that, perfect for words right there.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
They have to write articles about how to say.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Goodbye now, she says, keep your nonverbal behavior in mind
as well, like smile obviously because you're happy for us,
nod your head.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You're nont Now that we're talking about behaviors, I'd like
to get into your nonverbal behaviors.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
My favorite is though, she says, maybe put your hands
in the air to indicate there's nothing you can do.
Slipping out lovely Gavity.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's silly if you saw' that's like Brian Barry.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Don't no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
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Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, we are honored to have LAPD Chief Jim McDonald
here to join us today.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't know how you did it. Chief. You have
had a busy week.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You see, we've got TVs all over this room and
you've been all over them. Monday, you were there for
the press conference with the FBI with that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Terror plot that was thwarted.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It looks like four jackasses, for lack of a better word,
we're going to or try to bomb several locations on
New Year's Eve in Los Angeles. FBI and LAPD sheriffs
thwarted that. And then yesterday you're with the DA who's
announcing first degree murder charges with special circumstances against Nick Reiner.
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We thank you for taking the time out of obviously
a very busy week to join us. And another hope,
high profile case that your department has been working very
hard on, is, of course, the Celeste Reevas murder, the
girl that was found dead in the Tesla back in
I want to say, early fall, September or something like that.
And so you have a lot on your plate going on.
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How does that work? By the way, you know, when
you get you get a call in the middle of
the night. We got to have you here tomorrow, We
got to this is going on? Does your phone ever
stop ringing? Do you keep it on silent? How does
the batphone work in your home?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Keep it next to me and on the nightstand, But
I never keep it on silent. It can it can
go off anytime. And it seems the big things juelesually
happen in the middle of the night. Our officers are
out there twenty four to seven interacting with the public,
so time doesn't make a whole lot of difference. As
far as notifications on things, I want to know what's
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going on and not have.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
To find out about it later.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
But we do have a screening system that is much
more humane than it used to be in the days past.
As far as people taking the calls and screening them
and then making the appropriate notifications. Some can wait till
seven in the morning and others. You need to know
when it happens.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
We're talking about your robbery homicide detectives just moments ago
about how the work they did in the middle of
the night on this Reiner case, how they were able
to catch up with him at the gas station. I
believe the report was five hours after the murders were
called in from the home in Brent. Would how they
were able to go and find out that he stayed
in a hotel in Santa Monica make entrance into that room.
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That is just good solid I think you referred to
it yesterday, good solid police work, and so quickly. I
know that sometimes people expect police work to be done
so quickly, like that be tied up with a nice
little boat, because that's what we see on the television.
But that's really great work they did in such a
quick time this week.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, you know, they did a tremendous job, and they
are the best in the business. Homicide Special out of
our HD handle the case. They brought in Gang and
Narcotics Division, who was paired up with the US Marshall
Service on the Task Force to assist as well. They
all work very well together and they were able in
this case to be able to take the suspect in
a custody very quickly. The kind of work that's done
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day in and day out. I wish we could get
that out to the public because I think they'd be
very proud of what's being done on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
How do you make a decision to get those other
departments or the other agencies involved in a case like this.
I mean, obviously it's very high profile, so there's gonna
be a lot of eyeballs on this thing, and a
lot of eyeballs on the detectives and their work that's involved.
But how do you determine when other organizations are involved?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, within the LAPD, we used to have divisional detectives
that worked for the area captain broken down twenty one
different areas throughout the city. We did a reorg recently
where all of the homicide detectives in the city now
are part of Robbery Homicide Division. So the Captain of
OURHD has the ability to be able to move people around,
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assign people as needed dependent on the case, and all
the cases now go to OURHD. In the big sense.
Homicide special got this one, and they are the folks
who focus and specialize in incidents such as this. The
decisions made basically as things start to progress, the Chief
of Detectives is involved, that chain of command is involved,
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and ultimately they make the best call they can as
to what outside resources they need. We exhaust everything we
have in the department first. When we're on task forces,
as I mentioned with the marshals, that's like all one,
seamless team. And so we're blessed in LA that we
have tremendous federal, state, and local partnerships and we work
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very closely together every day, and that I think will
work well for us as we move into the World
Cup and the Olympic and Paralympic Games ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Before we get to that, because that's a big issue.
Are we ready for that? And your department is so
financially strapped right now, it's ridiculous. We heard in the
news that maybe not even an academy class, what the
LAPD unheard of? A lot of people aren't paying attention
and they should in that regard Robbery Homicide Division alone.
If you read the Harry Bosch novels, Michael Connolly, you've
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seen heat, right, who hasn't seen heat?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know this division.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
They are the best and the brightest and the most
hard working. And the guys you do in goals you
do not want to mess around with, but they have
not escaped budget cuts. Well, we are hit with these massive,
high profile cases all the time in LA, specifically this
week as well this season.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, I know, our core function is answering radio calls,
calls for help from the public. So we have to
maintain as robust a patrol force as we can to
be able to answer those calls. And when the budget's
cut and we're down fourteen hundred officers now to give context,
when we're fully deployed, we're at ten thousand sworn. That's
about half of what New York City has cop to
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population ratio, and less than half of what Chicago has.
And so when you look at how lean we are
to begin with, and to think we're fourteen hundred down
from that, I had a budget authority to hire two
hundred and forty this year.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
We've done that.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I'm asking for an additional two forty. And that's the
back and forth you heard last week in COUNSUL. Even
if we were able to get that full compliment of
four to eighty, we're going to lose five to six
hundred this year through retirement other attrition, and so two
years out.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
From the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We are very concerned as far as being able to
have sufficient resources.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
To do it the way we would love to be
able to do it.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
We will get the job done one way or the
other with the LAPD and we will make it happen,
but certainly we'd like to have additional people be able
to focus and specialize. You mentioned robbery homicide is not
the size it used to be. None of our specialized
units are the size they used to be, and some
don't exist anymore. So my hope is as we start
to get healthy well, we'll be able to hire more
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people and be able to fill out some of the
specialized units. There are units that we need to have,
robust cyber units for cybercrime, cyberterrorism and all of the
potential attacks we could see.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know, a drone unit.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
We're building that out to be able to have drones
as a first responder, a tremendous tool there as well.
But a lot of the emerging threats we need to
be able to be We're not going to be ahead
of it, but we need to be as up to
speed with it as we can do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You have an idea historically, when was the LAPD last
at its you know, at its maximum strength or at
least an acceptable level.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Twenty nineteen they were at one thousand and three sworn
officers and to get to at the end of this year,
we could be down to eighty three hundred and the
last time we saw that was nineteen ninety five, so
thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think just this year alone, you're looking at a
deficit of six hundred jobs leave in this year and
that you have to fight for two forty is insane
to me.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean, how ass backwards is that.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We're talking with LAPD chief language. We have trug bat,
tell her we have company and we'll come back more
with the Chief when we return.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
We want to get right to it because Chief Jim
McDonald was so nice to take some time and talk
to us about what we talk about every day here
when it comes to the high profile cases that the
LAPD is confronted with, often in the middle of the night.
As Chief was telling us and we touched on robbery,
homicide detectives and the great work that they were able
to do on capturing Nick Reiner within hours of those
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bodies being discovered, and Brentwood another big case is I think,
leaving a lot of people scratching their heads the dead
girl in the teslas les Reevus. Here's a four ten
year old girl found dead in the trunk. You've got
an up and coming rap star who was connected to her,
and yet we've had no news. We know that this
went to a grand jury as well, but it's been
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a little frustrating, I think for the general public to
get answers on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Chief Yeah, no, I understand the frustration, but the detectives
handling the case in the department, the posture has to
be preserved the integrity of the case over anything else.
As much as we want to be transparent what we do,
when you're dealing with murder cases, you have a system
to follow and you want to make sure that you
don't do anything that would jeopardize the case long term.
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You want to be able to hold whoever did these
type of crimes to justice, and.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think in that case in particular, everyone lawyered up
right away, which makes you be even more careful with
your investigation as detectives in terms of you know, you're
going to get more out of being tight lipped about
your investigation even if everyone in the world is talking
about it on every publication. Like you said, it's all
about the integrity of the investigation. And sometimes when information
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like like that or details slip out, then you're putting
the entire case on the line, and at the end
of the day, you want to.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Put the guy who's the murderer away. As the name
of the game, and.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
The absence of us putting out information, people fill the
vacuum with misinformation. We saw that in this case where
there was some pretty bizarre things been put out there.
We try and address those when it's when it's so prevalent,
as some of these were. But you know, the reality
is that generally speak and we try as much as
we try to be transparent, we also do everything we
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can to preserve the ability of the detectives to put
the case together, presented to the DA and get a
successful filing and then follow up with a successful prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
When you bring up just the idea of misinformation that's
out there to fill vacuums, and that's in your career
in law enforcement has changed drastically, just in terms of
the speed with which this information can be can be spread.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, you can't get in front of a story anymore.
By the time we get to the crime scene, by
the time, oftentimes the time the officers and the black
and whites get to the crime scene, it's already been
live broadcast on somebody's video from their iPhone, and you know,
the story gets out there, whether the story is accurate
or not, and then you're playing ketchup on that trying
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to be able to parse what happened from what didn't
happen and who had the perspective that makes, you know,
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
There have been different municipalities, different politicians that want to
get into the issue of law enforcement wearing masks. Is
that going to affect LAPED at all?
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Well, you know, yeah, you look at this and you
think where we were. We were penalizing officers for not
wearing masks or post COVID, and now we're penalizing people
potentially for wearing masks. So I think we're not. We
don't wear masks at the LAPD. We get out there
and do the job. And yeah, our people take flack
over it. I see where the argument comes from for
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our federal partners who have been docksed and their families
exposed and those kind of things. So there is a
level of concern there that is rational, but it does
create a level of anxiety within the community when you
have people wearing masks and you don't know who they are.
They may not be identifiable to a lay person on
the street. So certainly, I think the political response was
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to try and alleviate some of that anxiety. But at
the end of the day, if they are legitimate federal
agents in this case and they're doing their job, local
police are not going to winforce a misdemeanor mask violation
for something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
We've got the World Cup coming to town, We've got
the Olympics coming to down all eyes on Los Angeles.
I love the Disney movie version of this, where everything
is great and La looks wonderful, but we are not
staffed to secure these events.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well, I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You'll do You'll do a great job regardless, But what
is your concern when it comes to securing massive events
and different locations throughout Los Angeles with all the world
watching and just knowing the way that criminals organize these days.
When it comes to big events like this and what
is your concern and has that been communicated to the
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mayor into the city council.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah, the mayor is supportive of our hiring additional officers.
She's been pushing that the city council. There are some
members of the council who are supportive, there's other members
of the council who are not supportive of anything we do,
and then there's others where we can make our case
and hopefully win their votes over. They're in a very
difficult position now with the budget where it is a
billion dollar deficit going into this year. We have the
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biggest part of the budget, so certainly we knew that
we were going to be cut back on that. But
I think in a place where we have taken on
the role of a host city for both the the
World Cup and the Olympic and Paralympic Games, there's a
duty to be able to ensure that there are sufficient
resources to do that to the best degree possible. The
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LAPD as I mentioned earlier, we have tremendous relationships with
our federal, state, and local partners, and that is a
critical piece of our ability to be able to police
and ensure everybody has an enjoyable and safe time at
the games. Without that, we would certainly be behind the
eight ball. We will end up doing it differently with
fewer officers than we would have otherwise done. Will end
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up bringing in people from outside departments to be able
to assist us, maybe more than we otherwise would have done.
These games are spread out all over the region, so
that creates a challenge as far as transportation and a
lot of the support services that people really don't think about.
They have practice fields, practice arenas, they have a lot
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of places, they have the housings. Different countries have special
needs that others don't have, and so there's a lot
of moving parts. When you put together something like this
on a worldwide stage, everyone is evaluating everything you do.
And so we know, you know that we got to
bring our a game for that whole forty days that
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we'll be dealing with the Olympic and Paralympic.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Games, and we will be ready.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
We will be able to do it, but we'll have
to do it differently than otherwise we would have.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
We know it's a busy week. We're absolutely blessed that
she came in and hung out with us, and we
appreciate it, and we'll continue these conversations because I mean,
we've said.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I could keep them hostage all day. I know that
I don't think that would be a good idea for me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
There's something to talk about the other one with the weapons,
So that's going to be a harder task than you,
I think, Chief McDonald, thanks for coming in. We greatly
appreciate it. Gary, Thank you. Gary and Shannon will continue
right after this.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Told you that Peter, our dog, had a very social
weekend when we went for the family reunion. We took
him up with us into Central California. My sister's got
a couple of dogs. My aunt has a dog. There
was a neighbor cousin that had another dog that came over.
He was busy playing the entire time.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You said you were worried that when he would come
back home and there were no other dogs, that he
may be bored.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well, for one thing, he was asleep for a day
and a half.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, tuckered out.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It was funny because I was laughing as we're driving home.
He's asleep in the backseat of the car. I'm thinking
if I did that, if I went for a weekend
and did nothing but played like I don't know, flag
football with like you do at Thanksgiving for example, Right,
you get together, you play flag football. It's the first
time in months you've done anything athletic, and you're sore
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for four days. I wonder if he had that same feeling,
Like were his little dog muscles sore from playing constantly
for hours and hours at a time when he doesn't
do that regularly. I assume they have to be right. So,
but now he's looking up and wondering where the other
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dogs are, So maybe he is what do you tell
him they're gone? Yeah, because I don't know if he's
going to remember them next time, Like he sees them
next time and he's like, hey, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But well, what have you read about dog's memories?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Not much. I assume he smells them and like they
smell familiar. That's supposed to be super important, much more
so than I would. He doesn't smell me and go,
oh I know you.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Oh I'm sure he does. Ugh, Okay, you can't not
smell you and not remember you.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Is that what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It says that dogs, do you remember other dogs after
long periods of separation because of that scent.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Boredom a lot of times for animals can stem from
lack of mental stimulation or opportunities to control certain aspects
of their environment. That leads to frustration or stress, which
can lead to health issues. One of the things that
I looked at a lot of when we got this
puppy was whether or not they like a crate, you know,
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to create train your dog so that that's what place
where they can sleep. That's a place that they are
comfortable in because a lot of times, if you don't
do it early on, they're not comfortable being in that place.
But that dogs, especially terriers, like that, like confined places,
and they feel safer in there. So the crate that
we have that he sleeps in is covered and it's
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kind of tucked away so it's not in the main
flow of traffic. He can go there anytime he wants
and he can sleep and he's never I shouldn't say never.
After maybe three or four days of training, he's really
never had a problem with it. And that's that's probably
where he feels safe and secure and comfortable. So that's
why we took it with us. You know that he
had the familiar familiarity of it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Did he use it at all?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Oh yeah, he needed a little me time. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, obviously he wants to be a social and
he wants to continue, but he also knows that he's
got to shut it down.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Rights.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
While the destructive behavior that you see in a dog,
for example, chewing furniture, digging holes, leg licking their own
legs not your legs, attention seeking behavior like barking or whining,
all of that is probably because you're not doing enough
to entertain your dogs. They're also dogs specifically cats to
(25:31):
a degree, but dogs specifically. A lot of them have
built in jobs that they're supposed to do or that
they're good at, and if they don't do those jobs,
they get really bored and that can be very traumatic
for them. Birds birds will sometimes self harm, head bobbing
(25:51):
and pacing. Bored parrots can become aggressive. Betas and goldfish
do benefit from stimulate, So think of puzzles. Just set
up a iPad in front of your fish pole and
keep your entertained.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Get them hooked on the screens early.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean, why not. You know you're going to do
it anyway, you might as well.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
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Speaker 3 (26:26):
Look at the screen all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
The screen is there. Now, you might as well take
advantage of it exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
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you getting the bonus podcast every week?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You're not?
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This is a great You have to follow us to
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
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Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh, potty mouth, potty potty.
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Speaker 3 (26:59):
Is it what picture?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's the COVID picture. I think it's the one from downstairs.
And we got yelled at out of the building. They
told us we can't take pictures.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
And I was like, sir, we've worked here for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't care. Folks, Moose out front should have told
you no commercial pictures.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Furthermore, how was he coming to work every day?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
During COVID when nobody was Furthermore, he hasn't been seen since.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, you got him fired.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You're damn right I did.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Saying goodbye can be very tough. That's why we've decided
to do it here. What well, I'm just what I
mean is you fire me before the holidays? I wrote
to talk about when people say goodbye. I would have
at least done my hair. Time magazine have a name
(00:31):
for ending an interaction, the leave taking behavior. How would
you describe your leave taking behavior? I just leave.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't say goodbye to anyone usually ever, I just go.
I've noticed because if you're gonna say goodbye, you got
to do all the goodbyes. It gets a little laborious. Yeah, repetitive,
too much? And did people really care that you're leaving? Probably?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, people care that you're leaving.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
When have you noticed me doing this?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Okay, I'll say this. I know I've picked up some
physical cues about when you're ready to go. Okay, some
of them are super obvious and listen. Most of the
context I would say has been business. It's been company
related as opposed to just a social event. But the
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company related things you make no bones about it. You
didn't want to be there in the first place.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
What like what like a meeting?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That's exactly what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Nobody wants to be in a meeting.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We did an event one time at Delilah. Do you
remember that.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I remember the event. I don't remember the leaving.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, it was you tried to go out the side
door that they didn't let you go out. Oh remember that.
You're like, Oh, I'll just go back to out through
the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's not ideal, Oh, cooky kitchen.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I recently left an event where I left you and
I went out a side door. Yeah, because I saw
you going out the main way and there were a
lot of obstacles I e people to say goodbye to
and I saw your path and I thought, that's not
my path, that is not the path for me. So
I did go out the side door in that in
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that situation.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So something could have happened to me and you would
not have and I've been able to help.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Does it make it better that I did feel bad
about not joining you on the path?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh, well, how do you say goodbye?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
What should I do?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The most important thing, according to Amy Arius, a senior lecturer,
of communications studies at you and University of that arena.
Don't over explain, don't don't use a bunch of overqualifiers.
Don't hedge. Don't say it looks like it's about time
to go. Oh, probably should be getting going. The dog's
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probably looking for dinner right about now. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Gotta let the dogs out. I hear that all the
time from dog, I gotta take the dogs out, got
to take the dogs for.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
A walk, Gotta do the dog. I get it. It's like,
you can't use your kids for that. And also we've aged.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Out of having young kids at home, but like it
used to be kids, Oh, we got to get home
the sitter.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We got to get home for the sitter. We gotta
get home.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And now it's dogs, and it's like, got to take
the dog's frog. It's like, okay, I get it, you're leaving.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I don't care. You got to take the dog for
a walk.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's it. Just go don't over explain. Everybody knows. There's
a limit. Everybody knows, especially like if you're if you're
hosting friends of for uh or during the week. Yeah,
and everybody's got to go to work the next day.
You know there's a time it gets past eight o'clock.
You could go at any time. Now, if the conversation
(03:53):
is flowing and you don't have a problem, you're not
yawning or something like that, stay as long as you want.
That's but but if somebody decided after a certain time
that they're going to pick up and go, you don't
have to ask why. Right, it's obvious why, so don't
over explain. That's the first part. The second part express gratitude.
Thank you so much for having me. Okay, that's a
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little wordy.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I usually say that, I'll say that, I'll say thank
you so much for having me, but and I mean it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
They said, this usually means a couple of words amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Party, that's a lie, amazing is so overused, had a
blast a blast overused.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Such fun, but something like that. That is an expression
of gratitude.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
This was great.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
How about just saying something that's honest? This was great,
this was super cool. I loved this. I'm leaving like anything. Again,
I don't even if to can it, you have to
put it in the can.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So they said that again, amy Arius. Again, this communications
professor says, as you're saying by keep it short and sweet.
Two words for each two words to announce that you're leaving,
not why, just that you're and then two words to
express gratitude.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Do you understand what we're talking about right now? We
are so socially altered that we don't even know how
to say goodbye. We need a freaking owner's manual with
canned responses for good night.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Everybody, Like, what the hell is wrong with us?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What did COVID break in our brains where we cannot
handle a simple hello or goodbye? Like we can't figure
out how to say hello in the elevator on our
way up here, and we can't leave a party without
just saying.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Thank you goodbye.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's as simple as that, perfect for words right there.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
They have to write articles about how to say.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Goodbye now, she says, keep your nonverbal behavior in mind
as well, like smile obviously because you're happy for us,
nod your head.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You're nont Now that we're talking about behaviors, I'd like
to get into your nonverbal behaviors.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
My favorite is though, she says, maybe put your hands
in the air to indicate there's nothing you can do.
Slipping out lovely Gavity.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's silly if you saw' that's like Brian Barry.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Don't no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Look at the time, you're listening to Gary and Shannon
on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, we are honored to have LAPD Chief Jim McDonald
here to join us today.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't know how you did it. Chief. You have
had a busy week.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You see, we've got TVs all over this room and
you've been all over them. Monday, you were there for
the press conference with the FBI with that.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Terror plot that was thwarted.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It looks like four jackasses, for lack of a better word,
we're going to or try to bomb several locations on
New Year's Eve in Los Angeles. FBI and LAPD sheriffs
thwarted that. And then yesterday you're with the DA who's
announcing first degree murder charges with special circumstances against Nick Reiner.
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We thank you for taking the time out of obviously
a very busy week to join us. And another hope,
high profile case that your department has been working very
hard on, is, of course, the Celeste Reevas murder, the
girl that was found dead in the Tesla back in
I want to say, early fall, September or something like that.
And so you have a lot on your plate going on.
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How does that work? By the way, you know, when
you get you get a call in the middle of
the night. We got to have you here tomorrow, We
got to this is going on? Does your phone ever
stop ringing? Do you keep it on silent? How does
the batphone work in your home?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Keep it next to me and on the nightstand, But
I never keep it on silent. It can it can
go off anytime. And it seems the big things juelesually
happen in the middle of the night. Our officers are
out there twenty four to seven interacting with the public,
so time doesn't make a whole lot of difference. As
far as notifications on things, I want to know what's
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going on and not have.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
To find out about it later.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
But we do have a screening system that is much
more humane than it used to be in the days past.
As far as people taking the calls and screening them
and then making the appropriate notifications. Some can wait till
seven in the morning and others. You need to know
when it happens.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
We're talking about your robbery homicide detectives just moments ago
about how the work they did in the middle of
the night on this Reiner case, how they were able
to catch up with him at the gas station. I
believe the report was five hours after the murders were
called in from the home in Brent. Would how they
were able to go and find out that he stayed
in a hotel in Santa Monica make entrance into that room.
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That is just good solid I think you referred to
it yesterday, good solid police work, and so quickly. I
know that sometimes people expect police work to be done
so quickly, like that be tied up with a nice
little boat, because that's what we see on the television.
But that's really great work they did in such a
quick time this week.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, you know, they did a tremendous job, and they
are the best in the business. Homicide Special out of
our HD handle the case. They brought in Gang and
Narcotics Division, who was paired up with the US Marshall
Service on the Task Force to assist as well. They
all work very well together and they were able in
this case to be able to take the suspect in
a custody very quickly. The kind of work that's done
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day in and day out. I wish we could get
that out to the public because I think they'd be
very proud of what's being done on their behalf.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
How do you make a decision to get those other
departments or the other agencies involved in a case like this.
I mean, obviously it's very high profile, so there's gonna
be a lot of eyeballs on this thing, and a
lot of eyeballs on the detectives and their work that's involved.
But how do you determine when other organizations are involved?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, within the LAPD, we used to have divisional detectives
that worked for the area captain broken down twenty one
different areas throughout the city. We did a reorg recently
where all of the homicide detectives in the city now
are part of Robbery Homicide Division. So the Captain of
OURHD has the ability to be able to move people around,
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assign people as needed dependent on the case, and all
the cases now go to OURHD. In the big sense.
Homicide special got this one, and they are the folks
who focus and specialize in incidents such as this. The
decisions made basically as things start to progress, the Chief
of Detectives is involved, that chain of command is involved,
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and ultimately they make the best call they can as
to what outside resources they need. We exhaust everything we
have in the department first. When we're on task forces,
as I mentioned with the marshals, that's like all one,
seamless team. And so we're blessed in LA that we
have tremendous federal, state, and local partnerships and we work
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very closely together every day, and that I think will
work well for us as we move into the World
Cup and the Olympic and Paralympic Games ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Before we get to that, because that's a big issue.
Are we ready for that? And your department is so
financially strapped right now, it's ridiculous. We heard in the
news that maybe not even an academy class, what the
LAPD unheard of? A lot of people aren't paying attention
and they should in that regard Robbery Homicide Division alone.
If you read the Harry Bosch novels, Michael Connolly, you've
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seen heat, right, who hasn't seen heat?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know this division.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
They are the best and the brightest and the most
hard working. And the guys you do in goals you
do not want to mess around with, but they have
not escaped budget cuts. Well, we are hit with these massive,
high profile cases all the time in LA, specifically this
week as well this season.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, I know, our core function is answering radio calls,
calls for help from the public. So we have to
maintain as robust a patrol force as we can to
be able to answer those calls. And when the budget's
cut and we're down fourteen hundred officers now to give context,
when we're fully deployed, we're at ten thousand sworn. That's
about half of what New York City has cop to
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population ratio, and less than half of what Chicago has.
And so when you look at how lean we are
to begin with, and to think we're fourteen hundred down
from that, I had a budget authority to hire two
hundred and forty this year.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
We've done that.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I'm asking for an additional two forty. And that's the
back and forth you heard last week in COUNSUL. Even
if we were able to get that full compliment of
four to eighty, we're going to lose five to six
hundred this year through retirement other attrition, and so two
years out.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
From the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
We are very concerned as far as being able to
have sufficient resources.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
To do it the way we would love to be
able to do it.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
We will get the job done one way or the
other with the LAPD and we will make it happen,
but certainly we'd like to have additional people be able
to focus and specialize. You mentioned robbery homicide is not
the size it used to be. None of our specialized
units are the size they used to be, and some
don't exist anymore. So my hope is as we start
to get healthy well, we'll be able to hire more
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people and be able to fill out some of the
specialized units. There are units that we need to have,
robust cyber units for cybercrime, cyberterrorism and all of the
potential attacks we could see.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know, a drone unit.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
We're building that out to be able to have drones
as a first responder, a tremendous tool there as well.
But a lot of the emerging threats we need to
be able to be We're not going to be ahead
of it, but we need to be as up to
speed with it as we can do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You have an idea historically, when was the LAPD last
at its you know, at its maximum strength or at
least an acceptable level.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Twenty nineteen they were at one thousand and three sworn
officers and to get to at the end of this year,
we could be down to eighty three hundred and the
last time we saw that was nineteen ninety five, so
thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think just this year alone, you're looking at a
deficit of six hundred jobs leave in this year and
that you have to fight for two forty is insane
to me.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean, how ass backwards is that.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We're talking with LAPD chief language. We have trug bat,
tell her we have company and we'll come back more
with the Chief when we return.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
We want to get right to it because Chief Jim
McDonald was so nice to take some time and talk
to us about what we talk about every day here
when it comes to the high profile cases that the
LAPD is confronted with, often in the middle of the night.
As Chief was telling us and we touched on robbery,
homicide detectives and the great work that they were able
to do on capturing Nick Reiner within hours of those
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bodies being discovered, and Brentwood another big case is I think,
leaving a lot of people scratching their heads the dead
girl in the teslas les Reevus. Here's a four ten
year old girl found dead in the trunk. You've got
an up and coming rap star who was connected to her,
and yet we've had no news. We know that this
went to a grand jury as well, but it's been
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a little frustrating, I think for the general public to
get answers on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Chief Yeah, no, I understand the frustration, but the detectives
handling the case in the department, the posture has to
be preserved the integrity of the case over anything else.
As much as we want to be transparent what we do,
when you're dealing with murder cases, you have a system
to follow and you want to make sure that you
don't do anything that would jeopardize the case long term.
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You want to be able to hold whoever did these
type of crimes to justice, and.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think in that case in particular, everyone lawyered up
right away, which makes you be even more careful with
your investigation as detectives in terms of you know, you're
going to get more out of being tight lipped about
your investigation even if everyone in the world is talking
about it on every publication. Like you said, it's all
about the integrity of the investigation. And sometimes when information
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like like that or details slip out, then you're putting
the entire case on the line, and at the end
of the day, you want to.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Put the guy who's the murderer away. As the name
of the game, and.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
The absence of us putting out information, people fill the
vacuum with misinformation. We saw that in this case where
there was some pretty bizarre things been put out there.
We try and address those when it's when it's so prevalent,
as some of these were. But you know, the reality
is that generally speak and we try as much as
we try to be transparent, we also do everything we
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can to preserve the ability of the detectives to put
the case together, presented to the DA and get a
successful filing and then follow up with a successful prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
When you bring up just the idea of misinformation that's
out there to fill vacuums, and that's in your career
in law enforcement has changed drastically, just in terms of
the speed with which this information can be can be spread.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, you can't get in front of a story anymore.
By the time we get to the crime scene, by
the time, oftentimes the time the officers and the black
and whites get to the crime scene, it's already been
live broadcast on somebody's video from their iPhone, and you know,
the story gets out there, whether the story is accurate
or not, and then you're playing ketchup on that trying
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to be able to parse what happened from what didn't
happen and who had the perspective that makes, you know,
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
There have been different municipalities, different politicians that want to
get into the issue of law enforcement wearing masks. Is
that going to affect LAPED at all?
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Well, you know, yeah, you look at this and you
think where we were. We were penalizing officers for not
wearing masks or post COVID, and now we're penalizing people
potentially for wearing masks. So I think we're not. We
don't wear masks at the LAPD. We get out there
and do the job. And yeah, our people take flack
over it. I see where the argument comes from for
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our federal partners who have been docksed and their families
exposed and those kind of things. So there is a
level of concern there that is rational, but it does
create a level of anxiety within the community when you
have people wearing masks and you don't know who they are.
They may not be identifiable to a lay person on
the street. So certainly, I think the political response was
(18:27):
to try and alleviate some of that anxiety. But at
the end of the day, if they are legitimate federal
agents in this case and they're doing their job, local
police are not going to winforce a misdemeanor mask violation
for something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
We've got the World Cup coming to town, We've got
the Olympics coming to down all eyes on Los Angeles.
I love the Disney movie version of this, where everything
is great and La looks wonderful, but we are not
staffed to secure these events.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well, I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You'll do You'll do a great job regardless, But what
is your concern when it comes to securing massive events
and different locations throughout Los Angeles with all the world
watching and just knowing the way that criminals organize these days.
When it comes to big events like this and what
is your concern and has that been communicated to the
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mayor into the city council.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah, the mayor is supportive of our hiring additional officers.
She's been pushing that the city council. There are some
members of the council who are supportive, there's other members
of the council who are not supportive of anything we do,
and then there's others where we can make our case
and hopefully win their votes over. They're in a very
difficult position now with the budget where it is a
billion dollar deficit going into this year. We have the
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biggest part of the budget, so certainly we knew that
we were going to be cut back on that. But
I think in a place where we have taken on
the role of a host city for both the the
World Cup and the Olympic and Paralympic Games, there's a
duty to be able to ensure that there are sufficient
resources to do that to the best degree possible. The
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LAPD as I mentioned earlier, we have tremendous relationships with
our federal, state, and local partners, and that is a
critical piece of our ability to be able to police
and ensure everybody has an enjoyable and safe time at
the games. Without that, we would certainly be behind the
eight ball. We will end up doing it differently with
fewer officers than we would have otherwise done. Will end
(20:32):
up bringing in people from outside departments to be able
to assist us, maybe more than we otherwise would have done.
These games are spread out all over the region, so
that creates a challenge as far as transportation and a
lot of the support services that people really don't think about.
They have practice fields, practice arenas, they have a lot
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of places, they have the housings. Different countries have special
needs that others don't have, and so there's a lot
of moving parts. When you put together something like this
on a worldwide stage, everyone is evaluating everything you do.
And so we know, you know that we got to
bring our a game for that whole forty days that
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we'll be dealing with the Olympic and Paralympic.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Games, and we will be ready.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
We will be able to do it, but we'll have
to do it differently than otherwise we would have.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
We know it's a busy week. We're absolutely blessed that
she came in and hung out with us, and we
appreciate it, and we'll continue these conversations because I mean,
we've said.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I could keep them hostage all day. I know that
I don't think that would be a good idea for me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
There's something to talk about the other one with the weapons,
So that's going to be a harder task than you,
I think, Chief McDonald, thanks for coming in. We greatly
appreciate it. Gary, Thank you. Gary and Shannon will continue
right after this.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Told you that Peter, our dog, had a very social
weekend when we went for the family reunion. We took
him up with us into Central California. My sister's got
a couple of dogs. My aunt has a dog. There
was a neighbor cousin that had another dog that came over.
He was busy playing the entire time.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You said you were worried that when he would come
back home and there were no other dogs, that he
may be bored.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well, for one thing, he was asleep for a day
and a half.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, tuckered out.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It was funny because I was laughing as we're driving home.
He's asleep in the backseat of the car. I'm thinking
if I did that, if I went for a weekend
and did nothing but played like I don't know, flag
football with like you do at Thanksgiving for example, Right,
you get together, you play flag football. It's the first
time in months you've done anything athletic, and you're sore
(22:45):
for four days. I wonder if he had that same feeling,
Like were his little dog muscles sore from playing constantly
for hours and hours at a time when he doesn't
do that regularly. I assume they have to be right. So,
but now he's looking up and wondering where the other
(23:05):
dogs are, So maybe he is what do you tell
him they're gone? Yeah, because I don't know if he's
going to remember them next time, Like he sees them
next time and he's like, hey, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But well, what have you read about dog's memories?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Not much. I assume he smells them and like they
smell familiar. That's supposed to be super important, much more
so than I would. He doesn't smell me and go,
oh I know you.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Oh I'm sure he does. Ugh, Okay, you can't not
smell you and not remember you.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Is that what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It says that dogs, do you remember other dogs after
long periods of separation because of that scent.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Boredom a lot of times for animals can stem from
lack of mental stimulation or opportunities to control certain aspects
of their environment. That leads to frustration or stress, which
can lead to health issues. One of the things that
I looked at a lot of when we got this
puppy was whether or not they like a crate, you know,
(24:09):
to create train your dog so that that's what place
where they can sleep. That's a place that they are
comfortable in because a lot of times, if you don't
do it early on, they're not comfortable being in that place.
But that dogs, especially terriers, like that, like confined places,
and they feel safer in there. So the crate that
we have that he sleeps in is covered and it's
(24:31):
kind of tucked away so it's not in the main
flow of traffic. He can go there anytime he wants
and he can sleep and he's never I shouldn't say never.
After maybe three or four days of training, he's really
never had a problem with it. And that's that's probably
where he feels safe and secure and comfortable. So that's
why we took it with us. You know that he
had the familiar familiarity of it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Did he use it at all?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Oh yeah, he needed a little me time. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, obviously he wants to be a social and
he wants to continue, but he also knows that he's
got to shut it down.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Rights.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
While the destructive behavior that you see in a dog,
for example, chewing furniture, digging holes, leg licking their own
legs not your legs, attention seeking behavior like barking or whining,
all of that is probably because you're not doing enough
to entertain your dogs. They're also dogs specifically cats to
(25:31):
a degree, but dogs specifically. A lot of them have
built in jobs that they're supposed to do or that
they're good at, and if they don't do those jobs,
they get really bored and that can be very traumatic
for them. Birds birds will sometimes self harm, head bobbing
(25:51):
and pacing. Bored parrots can become aggressive. Betas and goldfish
do benefit from stimulate, So think of puzzles. Just set
up a iPad in front of your fish pole and
keep your entertained.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Get them hooked on the screens early.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean, why not. You know you're going to do
it anyway, you might as well.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Did you let us know what you're watching on this
what you watch on Wednesday? Let us know use a
talkback feature on the Gary and Shannon Show. iHeartRadio screen
to get addicted to the screens.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Look at the screen all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
The screen is there. Now, you might as well take
advantage of it exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And furthermore, if you're not following the podcast, how are
you getting the bonus podcast every week?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You're not?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
This is a great You have to follow us to
get the bonus podcast. And in the bonus podcast, this
one it's pretty dirty.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Did you disappoint at me? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh, potty mouth, potty potty.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Wherever you find your podcast your favorite podcast, you can
always type in Gary and Shannon. A very old picture
of us comes up?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Is it what picture?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's the COVID picture. I think it's the one from downstairs.
And we got yelled at out of the building. They
told us we can't take pictures.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
And I was like, sir, we've worked here for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't care. Folks, Moose out front should have told
you no commercial pictures.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Furthermore, how was he coming to work every day?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
During COVID when nobody was Furthermore, he hasn't been seen since.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, you got him fired.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You're damn right I did.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
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