September 24, 2025 • 30 mins
Terror.In.The.Skies.- United, Europe, Cyber Arrest. Big Rig Pursuit in Los Angeles and Ant - Bac Resistant Bacteria. When is the Rapture? Today? Pioneertown Renaissance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
In a full hour. You did go a full hour.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm renewing my effort, like three of them, and you
didn't even notice it. Oh I did it. I noticed
the last one. There was a couple before then.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
But but right before the show you made this bold
statement that you said. I heard the saying if you
can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I heard that somewhere recently.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Somewhere I don't know where you would do.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
And then and you said it, and both Neil and I,
you know, just kind of patted you on the head
and said, oh, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We'll see how far that goes. You did make it
an hour.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, but I'm going to renew it now.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm renewing my effort. So I'm gonna try and go another.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Right back on that horse.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm getting right back on that horse.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Listen. I mean, I know that the horse bucked you off,
but it did.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It did, But as more you can it was like
on a yellowstone when when Jimmy gets bucked off.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Jimmy is the most unsightly male.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yes, but he's got a big penis, and they let
you know that at every turn.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know why why did they Why did they.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Keep bringing that up? They brought it up three times.
I'm in season three and.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's running storyline. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
At least three people, we believe detainees, have been shot
at a US Immigration and Customs of Enforcement facility in
Dallas today. The shooter ended up killing himself, and the
preliminary investigation from Dallas Police said that a suspect opened
fire at a government building from an adjacent building. What's interesting,
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they say, is the adjacent building is believed to be
or is believed to house an immigration attorney's office. The
identity of the shooter is now out, a twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Year old guy. I'm not gonna bother telling you his.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Name, it doesn't matter, but uh, and they don't know
anything in terms of connection to the facility.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
If he knew somebody that was at the facility.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
The Dallas Police responded very quickly and they found this
guy having shot himself. There was also bullet casings that
had at least one of them that had the words
anti ice scratched on it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You know what we need?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh? Chocolate?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
You want chocolate. I've got some m and ms. You
don't like him, though I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I do like it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You like peanut eminem, so I do not like what
you do. If I had to choose, that is not
the top veminem. What is the top eminem for you?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I like just eminem?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh I have would you like that? I can bring
you some?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Why do you have them?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I just have them? Well, they give them. They're in
the press box stuff. No, it's not stealing. They're there
for you to have. And I grabbed a box of
M and ms and it's better on your ass and
it is on mine.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So I'm happy to give you my m and ms.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
What I meant, though, is what we need, and that
is tearing the skies. Hmmm, it's all right, take two, okay.
What we need is chocolate. Is well, I'm going to
get the chocolate, but first tear in the skies. There, Roger,
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get off my plane.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Roderick Rodgers. What's our victor?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Victor?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Enough is enough?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I haven't had to put these mucky pint and snakes
on this money. It's gary and Shannon's.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Terror in the skies on Kfox.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
All United air flights departing the US and Canada briefly
suspended last night. The airline asked the FAA to issue
a ground stop. Why well, it's very vague and unst
specified technology issue.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
A brief connectivity issue, is the way They've said it
second time in less than two months that they had
a problem. It was back in early August the United
flights had to be scheduled, had to have ground stops
across several US airports Newark, Denver, Houston, Chicago, and that
lasted several weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Will you follow my chemtrail for a moment.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yesterday we talked about the Secret Service dismantling a very
much real threat of cell phone towers in New York City.
This is the second time United has admitted that it's
had to have a groundstop because of a technology issue.
What are the odds that somebody's gearing up to shut
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everything down? Well, take that and add to it the
technological issues that happened because of the cyber attack in
European airports a few days ago. Right a man in
his forties has been arrested for that one crippled he
and several other European airports over the weekend. They specifically
were going after a check in and boarding software that
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is supplied by an American company that's used by airlines
around the world. Hundreds of flights had to be canceled
over Europe delighted airports across Europe. Again, a forty year
old man's been arrested in that case, and they do
say the expectation is that there will be more arrest
If you've traveled in the EU, you know that security
between EU member states is lacking, shall we say, when
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you saw Terrace Cells and Brussels, this was all the
talk at that point about how easy it is to
move through the EU with minimal security. Well, now they
are going to be fingerprinting US travelers before flights starting
October twelfth, Well that's when the law kicks in. It's
called the Border Law and it's hitting twenty nine countries.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
These new rules comprise electric chronic gates and a computerized
system which will automatically check passports at the external borders
of countries. This is the border free zone in the
EU twenty nine countries where passengers are free to travel
between them with minimal passport checks. But the most immediate
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change they say out of this program is that passports
will not be physically stamped once you the American once
you travel over the border. Instead, this system, the entry
exit system, will electronically record your name, your travel document details,
and the date and time of your entry and exit.
And if you arrive there, you will have to provide
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all of the personal data. You'll need to scan fingerprints
or take a photo of your face with the information
recorded on a digital file. It's not necessarily going to
happen at the airports once you're traveling, because apparently you
can do some of this stuff before you leave to
kind of speed up the security checkpoints.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I love a little bit of Hollywood history, don't you.
How about the history of a community founded in the
mid nineteen forties by people like Roy Rogers. This was
supposed to be a permanent Western movie set across the
rugged backdrop of the sawtoothed Mountains, and now Pioneer Town
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is going through a bit of a renaissance.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
OK. How cool is that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
For the Shooter of That Ice facility down in Dallas.
We'll see if we get any more information about who
this guy was and what the intentions were at what
least one person was killed believed to be a detainee
that was being held in a van or was in
a van at that facility.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Early this morning, we've got police in pursuit of a
stolen tractor trailer. Baby, it's getting off the fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Onto your Belinda Boulevard shoes very often.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He got a handful of black and whites one two
three beside this stolen tractor trailer.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
How fast is he going about?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The speedlanded about forty five, about forty five miles an
hour a year.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
He's not going to get that thing up a whole
lot faster than that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I love a stolen tractor trailer. What the hell were
you thinking? Maybe you just think that you can steal
a tractor trailer and blend in. You know, you're not
in something like a Dodge charger or anything that you'd
really want to arm yourself if you're trying to evade
the police. But stolen tractor trailer maybe flies under.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
The radar kind of It is just the rig part
of it. There's no trailer attached to this thing as
he's going through your Linda Boulevard down in the what
is it Fullerton area? Probably North State College Boulevard now
and your Belinda. So if you're in that area, you're
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going to see a bunch of helicopters here if you
haven't already, and you're gonna want to stay out of
this guy's way. But I mean, it's like you said,
he's forty forty five miles an hour. He's not really
he's not really correct.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
We know what he did put the hammer down they
want him for, and did he just steal a tractor trailer?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Maybe he's got a haul something.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Do we not oftentimes need to haul something in this
great land?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Are you suggesting that somewhere there's a trailer waiting for
this guy?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
What kind of trouble can you get into with a
stolen tractor trailer other than hauling some things?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Maybe let the man go.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I think we have a better song for this though,
clear and now go there.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You're gonna have to explain the juke to me.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Convoy ball, I mean, it's not it's not a whole convoy.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But I mean, if I guess you, if you consider
the law enforcement vehicle part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's kind of a convoy.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Okay, yeah, what is this from.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's just a song.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh okay, I don't think it was ever in a
movie floor stooping Tooker's question, is there.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Just one person in that cab? Hard to tell?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Hard to tell, I mean not getting a great view
onto the inside.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He's using turn lanes, he's stopping at lights, he's a
that's a rolling stop. I guess it is California, So
we'll let that one go. Well, I think this man
is uh, well, actually he used the turn lane to
just go straight there, so I thought he was following
all the rules of the road.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But he's certainly going in the speed limit.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, he's keeping it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
He's keeping it relatively calm, sir, if you're if.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You're listening, give us a roll.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
There's definitely two people.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, I thought I saw somebody else in the cab.
Give us a call. Let us know what you want
the tractor trailer for. You know, maybe you just want
to haul some stuff, Maybe you're moving a kid into college.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Because that is not an efficient way to get around town.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It is not. You could get a lime skirt scooter
or you know, and not have the police chase you.
I just don't know a hell of a lot of
people that are out to do wrong and attract your trailer.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do you think he's helping a buddy ose if yeah,
you know, you know what, I don't want to do
twelve trips in exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Totally I'm gonna do. We're gonna do one trailer. We're
gonna do a one fell swoop.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Let me set this up to where you can understand it.
You get a bunch of wood delivered to your home.
You're about to build a fence, yes, and you don't
have a vehicle to haul that wood. So you get
it delivered and you find out, Yeah, you find out
that that wood is not the wood you want it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It's not your wood.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Do you want to spend the time and the frustration
and potentially the repairs to load that wood into your tesla?
Or do you want to jack a big rig and
use that to take it back to the store that
rhymes with hose.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So you're saying, this guy just got he got the
wrong wood.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Four x six is instead of four x four. Here's
damn right, and he's he's going back to the return Center. Yeah,
okay again, State College Boulevard right at Orange Thorpe.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right now down in Fullerton is.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Where the driver of this stolen rig is is leading
police on a chase.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What's his end game at this point?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Just on surface streets going thirty forty miles an hour.
You've got black and white. It's a convoy, as you
mentioned behind you. What the hell are you hoping? You're
not gonna You're not gonna get away?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I would love huh, I would.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Love it if there was a requirement that whatever kind
of vehicle you steal and are running from the cops in, yeah,
is the kind of vehicle that the police have to
chase you in. Ooh, so get a big juiceho fighter
with a exactly, get a big rig with black and
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white paint, labels, decals, everything, Make it a fair fight.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Get that thing rolling through each other. Oh, I love
it through Fullerton.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Well, the pit maneuvers would work better if you imagine.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You know, it's a good point because you're not putting
you're not putting a little Ford Explorer up against that thing.
They're stopped at a light. One sedan at the light.
Just saw what was happening and got the heck got
the heck out of Dodge.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
The guys in the black and white tried to get
out of the vehicle, maybe a chance to engage the driver.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That didn't work. He continued to drive.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So he is on East Orange Thorpe Avenue right now. Again,
not going too fast, like you said, you can only
go so fast in those bad boys.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Going about fifty five.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's pretty good, pretty fast.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
There was a point there you mentioned there, stopped at
an intersection. One of the officers tried to go to
the left into the wrong lanes the oncoming traffic to
get out in the intersection before him.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He saw them coming, so.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
That's why he jumped over to the right and took
off and went through that conversation. So he's not giving up.
He's not showing any signs of giving up.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
He is.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
This would cause massive damage if he were to roll
through one of these intersections without slowing down, and he
has been slowing down each one of these things.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, this has got to be somebody with some experience
on how to drive a rig right.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So very true, because those do not You can't just I.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Couldn't jump into one of those figure it out. You
could drive a stick, I can. You may be able
to eventually get it moving.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I've always heard that they're just you can't just jump
in and there's double cut things in the shifts in this.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Well, I've driven different sticks, you know. I had the
I didn't come out right, but we will check more.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
To one of my girlfriends in high school had the
H Was.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It the H stick?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Grease beed?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, which was cool. I forget what kind of car
that was, but it was old.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It was an old one.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Did you ever drive it with the sure earshift on
the the actual yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Ern column, Yeah, but he had a truck where that's
when it where?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
All right, Well, we'll keep an eye on this again.
A stolen big rig. It appears at least two people inside.
There's no trailer attached to this big white big rig,
but it is being chased by least three or four
different police agent or police vehicles. I'm not quite sure
which agency it is, but we'll keep an eye on
this down in the Fullerton area.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
As of right now, you're listening to Gary and Shannon
on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Forty numbers ratings wise for the Jimmy Kimmel Show. Bad numbers, right,
Like if the numbers plummet after ABC puts them back
on the air, Oh, I mean, well no, it's public knowledge, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think ABC would jump to get them out there.
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They wouldn't, but we would know if you would find out.
If you know where to look, you can find them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But well, last night it was probably one of the
most watched episodes he's ever had.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sure because there's uh, but the precipitous fall, precipitous fault
could coach? Oh, well, have do we have an update
on our stolen big rig? There?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It appears to be stopped.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It appears that the driver of the big rig is
it was motioning with his arms through his open window
there on the driver's side, potentially speaking to the police
behind him there now in Buena Park.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It looks like, yeah, they had to haven't stopped, and
the officers had gotten out and had weapons trained on
the vehicle. But he didn't get out, nor did the passenger.
So they're on their way again. Commonwealth Avenue there in
Buena Park.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Does it add to the bravado when you've got a
buddy in the cab of the stolen vehicle with you.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
What if it's a lady.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I mean, you could impress a buddy that way too,
But what he's trying to impress a late day.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's not how you do it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Are you sure you've ever been taken on a high
speed Well, you ever been taken on a medium speed
chase before?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Have you ever been driven with a woman before?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Do you know? Annoying that would be to bleed police
on a high speed chase where you've got to make
decisions like that and you've got a broad next to
you being like.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Take the left there.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You know, if you took the left there, we would
have been there by now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I mean, that's like the horse person you would put
in that stolen vehicle.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You also make a point that I could not have
made right for safety reasons.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I drive with women too. No, but that's clearly a
dude in the in the cap and the driver's seed definitely.
Oh you think of the passenger seat too, I do. Oh,
I guess I couldn't see. Uh wait, maybe it's hard
to tell me.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
The reflections on the windshield, by the way, which looks
incredibly clean.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Do you think that's why he's going so slow because
it's abroad in there telling him to slow down.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's possible, could be, but again, just kind of basically
driving around now and wayn to park. Doesn't look like
they're really headed anywhere specific. I guess that's like you said,
what's the endgame on this?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, a lot of thing runs out of diesel. That's
hundreds and hundreds of miles.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Possibly.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Do you think they're going to Disneyland?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I doubt How would you park that at Disneyland? Oh?
This guy?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you think it's Dak Prescott? Like he stole all
that money from the Cowboys. He knows he's never going
to win the Super Bowl, so he just.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Jacked You said Dak Prescott. But I was thinking Dax Shepherd.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And why why would Dax Shepherd have all the money
stolen from the Cowboys. Sorry, I was not thinking about
it the way that you were.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I mean, they're right in the area.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Pursuit of a stolen big rig. Oh add this to
the mix. Yeah, maybe be a kidnapping.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh so it is a female.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So well, again not a guarantee.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, you're not gonna talk about a kidnapping if it's
a dude in the cab, Come on, unless it's the
driver of the big rig.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
If that's the case, why didn't the kidnap be a
out of the cab when it was stopped.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't think it was the driver of the big
rig because we know people who drive trucks and they'd
punch that guy right in the face.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Don't you think it wasn't true?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like we know female truck drivers that would punch that
guy right in the face until he was unconscious.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
This would not be something.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
This would not be the truck driver that it was
taken hostage.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Guy would be a bloodied mess on a parking lot
at a truck stop in Fontana right now, Yeah, that
was the case.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, his head would be on a stick in a
field like a yellowstone.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Will told us during the break that it is Fontana
police that are leading the pursuit here all the way
down in Buyna Park and that maybe this was stolen
from one of those one of the big truck stops
down in that area.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Uh, Fontana area.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh, that would make sense right, Yeah, So we'll see
they slow way down at times to get around some
of these tight turns now right along Auto Center Drive.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I hope, I hope that that it's not a truck
driver that was kidnapped in his own rig. That's embarrassing.
That's like a cop having his own gun stolen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You got to get out of the business.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You cannot go back to driving a truck if you
get your rig stolen and you are kidnapped.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now again, we'll keep an eye on this pursuit of
the stolen big rig and possible kidnapping that has taken place.
They are on Auto Center Drive there in the Buena
Park area.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But like, you can't force somebody into a big rig,
you know, if it's a kidnapping, you know, you can't
force that person in there.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's too hard to get up into that cab.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Maybe they were lured into the cab. Yeah, okay, I'll
see keep an eye on this.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love a little drama in the form of a
car chase. On a Wednesday, you're.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Dick Curtis was an actor back in the day day.
He was on the Three Stooges, he was on The
Lone Ranger Andy or the Genautry Show. Anyway, as the
story goes, Dick Curtis lent an old lady twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Oh what a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Now she was unable to repay the loans, so she
gave Curtis an old deed she had.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
It was indeed to.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
A small plot of sand in California, north of Los Angeles,
and he sold that lot for one hundred and fifty
bucks and invested the money in more Land through an
agent with the Southern Pacific Railroad. Now, that original twenty
five dollars investment, as you can imagine, grew over time
and Dick Curtis found himself owning a substantial amount of
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desert property. He had never seen it. He assumed it
was just this large, worthless piece of sand. One day,
he decides to explore his investment, so he rides up
a dusty cattle trail from Yucca Valley and he finds
the plateau at the foot of the San Bernardino Mountains,
and he found this is the place, and the place.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Became Pioneer Town.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Pioneer Town was supposed to be this permanent Western movie.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Set in the middle of nothing. That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Dick Curtis, by the way, was six three big star
in the forties and fifties. He wanted a permanent Western
movie set there, and he wanted it to function as
a working town with businesses that would cater to film
crews and residents. The Pioneer Town Corp Broke round in
nineteen forty six. First buildings were a land office, a
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beauty parlor, a motel, two restaurants and a feed store,
all with those old West facades now. Filming in the
town mostly stopped in the nineteen fifties, but decades later
the area continues to offer whoever stops by this unique mix.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
They call it fantasy and fiction.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Some buildings like the general store, the saddlery, the post office,
house businesses, and then others are just facades like the
jail and the barber shop.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They they're about six hundred people that live there.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, they have a great guess I haven't been there,
but they have a great live music venue called Pappy
and Harriet's. Yeah, a lot of bigger and up and
coming bands are going there to play music.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And it still takes you.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
If you're headed out to Palm Springs, you make a
left and you just go into the desert.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Basically, and now it's not just there for kitsch. As
Joe Anne Gossen will tell you. She's a local shopkeeper
and a goat farmer. She's been there for twenty one years.
She says, this is not Nott's Berry Farm. This is
a real town and it is our town. They say
they're settling into a new equilibrium there. Interesting established businesses
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like the Red Dog Saloon and the Pioneertown Motel are
offering stable employment to locals and transplants alike. Visitors will
find there's much more to do than wait two hours
for a table at Pappy and Harriet's. You grab tacos
at the Red Dog Saloon. There's natural bath products you
can buy at Zeba Botanica. There's a historic bowling alley
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that's cool, and there's a cowboy store. Suki Modern got
a big good bagel place there apparently too, New York
style bagels. We should go uh okay, it's we should
do the show from there.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
From Pioneer Town.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, Pappy and Harriets both either or we should do
it from Pappy and Harriets.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean, if they'll have us.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Itschy little place.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Well, it's not just about the kitch, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But it's not It's not about the kitch, but it
is kitchi. Yeah, but it's not all about that. There's
been big there's been big plans surrounding Pioneer Town in
recent years. In the sixties, a car salesman from Ohio
bought the Pioneer Town Corp. Proposed plans to create a
massive desert resort town homes, apartments, lakes, golf courses. He
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predicted it would draw a population of thirty five thousand. Well,
that business went bankrupt, and then during the pandemic, a
mountain guide and a supervising producer for Red Bull Media
scared all the locals like our friend Joanne, with a
plan to convert three hundred and fifty acres into events
space with residences, a recording studio, an amphitheater.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Oh yeah, everybody wants Red Bull in their neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
That project was eventually downgraded to a pricey airbnb, and
by the time that was completed, the Red Bull guy
was no longer a part of it.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Carl Sotter, he's a curator of the small film History
museum there in Pioneer Town. He says that the town
has been protected by major development by what he calls
the Curtis curse. Of course Curtis after Dick Curtis, the
actor that we talked about. He says, you can be
successful in Pioneer Town, but if you get greedy or
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you try to do something that messes up the environment
or the community.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Itself, you will fail. I love that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's good. It's nice for people to have pride in
the place that they live.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well and not to let it get ruined by a
whole outsiders who come in and want to make a
mockery of the place.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
That Pioneer Town Hotel Motel, sorry, Pioneer Town Motown. There's
a petting zoo has a has pretty good ratings for
people who have stayed here.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
And there's a petting zoo where ten dollars will buy
you twenty minutes with the chickens and the turkeys and
a small horse.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I love a petting zoo. Okay, I think we should
do it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm in It's fine by me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
An update on this chase, by the way, we're watching
Fontana police have chased this big rig with no trailer
on it all the way to do the Wuayna Park area.
Went on the ninety one onto the five. Now back
on surface streets right near Auto Center.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Drive. Hey, Gary and Shannon, Hey, y'all, let.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Me turn you up a little bit because I had
to turn way down. Try it again, Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Garan, Shannon. Hey, So he's driving without a trailer. The
correct terminology would be bobtailing. Got it. Have a good day, guys.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, oh hell yeah, bobtailor. That was a good horn.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I added that like, oh you did you forgot to
help the horn news. Oh that was a very loud horn. Yeah, bobtailing.
But usually when a driver's move in attractor to a
new location, returning from a delivery, 're going to go
pick up a new load. It's dangerous, guys, because this
tractor is significantly lighter.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It's less stable as.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You can imagine without the trailer's weight and traction, so
you're looking at changes and breaking handling overall control. Really
good thing it's sunny in seventy two degrees, because if
we had adverse weather conditions, this would be uh mess difficult.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, he's been down this road before. Unfortunately Commonwealth Again
on in point of park.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You're going to see longer stopping distances, greater risk of
loss of control without that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Both tractor channels four and five.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
He's slowing to slowing to a stop. Oh what did
he just do? He just grabbed something from that other car.
Is that a way mo? What the hell is that
other car?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I just think it was oh battering Ram came in.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
By the way, bear cat has entered the chat.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Bear cat just popped into the chat unceremoniously with the
attempted a pit maneuver.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, he came almost head on to that big rip.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Oh, now he's pissed.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now that bearcat driver's pissed chased him ps. The reason
that happened to is if you know about bobtailing, it
comes with massive blind spots. I don't even think he
saw that bear cat come.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
In the way that he had.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He was approaching from the side though, Uh, right, like
that the backside of that thing.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
This is I don't think I've ever seen a bear
cat involved in a chase like this.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well you've got to because you've got to match. What
happened was the black and white cars are listening to
Gary and Shannon, and they go Gary just had this
idea that we should have a sizeable vehicle. And if
you're the if you're the officer driving the bear cat,
you're like, wait, I get to I get to put
my foot into Oh, that's.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Why this is going to be great.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And and he's pissed off because the first Pittman over
didn't work. All right, Well, so now you've got a
pissed off officer behind the wheel of a bear cat
in pursuit.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
We'll keep an eye on this and see if anything happens.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh my gosh, I can't believe we have to take
a break.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
What am I watching on this Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I'm watching this chase we.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Are Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've
been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can
always hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine
am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
In a full hour. You did go a full hour.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm renewing my effort, like three of them, and you
didn't even notice it. Oh I did it. I noticed
the last one. There was a couple before then.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
But but right before the show you made this bold
statement that you said. I heard the saying if you
can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I heard that somewhere recently.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Somewhere I don't know where you would do.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
And then and you said it, and both Neil and I,
you know, just kind of patted you on the head
and said, oh, that's cute.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We'll see how far that goes. You did make it
an hour.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, but I'm going to renew it now.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm renewing my effort. So I'm gonna try and go another.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Right back on that horse.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm getting right back on that horse.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Listen. I mean, I know that the horse bucked you off,
but it did.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It did, But as more you can it was like
on a yellowstone when when Jimmy gets bucked off.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Jimmy is the most unsightly male.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yes, but he's got a big penis, and they let
you know that at every turn.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know why why did they Why did they.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Keep bringing that up? They brought it up three times.
I'm in season three and.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's running storyline. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
At least three people, we believe detainees, have been shot
at a US Immigration and Customs of Enforcement facility in
Dallas today. The shooter ended up killing himself, and the
preliminary investigation from Dallas Police said that a suspect opened
fire at a government building from an adjacent building. What's interesting,
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they say, is the adjacent building is believed to be
or is believed to house an immigration attorney's office. The
identity of the shooter is now out, a twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Year old guy. I'm not gonna bother telling you his.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Name, it doesn't matter, but uh, and they don't know
anything in terms of connection to the facility.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
If he knew somebody that was at the facility.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
The Dallas Police responded very quickly and they found this
guy having shot himself. There was also bullet casings that
had at least one of them that had the words
anti ice scratched on it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You know what we need?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh? Chocolate?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
You want chocolate. I've got some m and ms. You
don't like him, though I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I do like it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You like peanut eminem, so I do not like what
you do. If I had to choose, that is not
the top veminem. What is the top eminem for you?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I like just eminem?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh I have would you like that? I can bring
you some?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Why do you have them?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I just have them? Well, they give them. They're in
the press box stuff. No, it's not stealing. They're there
for you to have. And I grabbed a box of
M and ms and it's better on your ass and
it is on mine.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So I'm happy to give you my m and ms.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
What I meant, though, is what we need, and that
is tearing the skies. Hmmm, it's all right, take two, okay.
What we need is chocolate. Is well, I'm going to
get the chocolate, but first tear in the skies. There, Roger,
(03:31):
get off my plane.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Roderick Rodgers. What's our victor?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Victor?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Enough is enough?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I haven't had to put these mucky pint and snakes
on this money. It's gary and Shannon's.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Terror in the skies on Kfox.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
All United air flights departing the US and Canada briefly
suspended last night. The airline asked the FAA to issue
a ground stop. Why well, it's very vague and unst
specified technology issue.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
A brief connectivity issue, is the way They've said it
second time in less than two months that they had
a problem. It was back in early August the United
flights had to be scheduled, had to have ground stops
across several US airports Newark, Denver, Houston, Chicago, and that
lasted several weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Will you follow my chemtrail for a moment.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yesterday we talked about the Secret Service dismantling a very
much real threat of cell phone towers in New York City.
This is the second time United has admitted that it's
had to have a groundstop because of a technology issue.
What are the odds that somebody's gearing up to shut
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everything down? Well, take that and add to it the
technological issues that happened because of the cyber attack in
European airports a few days ago. Right a man in
his forties has been arrested for that one crippled he
and several other European airports over the weekend. They specifically
were going after a check in and boarding software that
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is supplied by an American company that's used by airlines
around the world. Hundreds of flights had to be canceled
over Europe delighted airports across Europe. Again, a forty year
old man's been arrested in that case, and they do
say the expectation is that there will be more arrest
If you've traveled in the EU, you know that security
between EU member states is lacking, shall we say, when
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you saw Terrace Cells and Brussels, this was all the
talk at that point about how easy it is to
move through the EU with minimal security. Well, now they
are going to be fingerprinting US travelers before flights starting
October twelfth, Well that's when the law kicks in. It's
called the Border Law and it's hitting twenty nine countries.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
These new rules comprise electric chronic gates and a computerized
system which will automatically check passports at the external borders
of countries. This is the border free zone in the
EU twenty nine countries where passengers are free to travel
between them with minimal passport checks. But the most immediate
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change they say out of this program is that passports
will not be physically stamped once you the American once
you travel over the border. Instead, this system, the entry
exit system, will electronically record your name, your travel document details,
and the date and time of your entry and exit.
And if you arrive there, you will have to provide
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all of the personal data. You'll need to scan fingerprints
or take a photo of your face with the information
recorded on a digital file. It's not necessarily going to
happen at the airports once you're traveling, because apparently you
can do some of this stuff before you leave to
kind of speed up the security checkpoints.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I love a little bit of Hollywood history, don't you.
How about the history of a community founded in the
mid nineteen forties by people like Roy Rogers. This was
supposed to be a permanent Western movie set across the
rugged backdrop of the sawtoothed Mountains, and now Pioneer Town
(07:22):
is going through a bit of a renaissance.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
OK. How cool is that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
For the Shooter of That Ice facility down in Dallas.
We'll see if we get any more information about who
this guy was and what the intentions were at what
least one person was killed believed to be a detainee
that was being held in a van or was in
a van at that facility.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Early this morning, we've got police in pursuit of a
stolen tractor trailer. Baby, it's getting off the fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Onto your Belinda Boulevard shoes very often.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He got a handful of black and whites one two
three beside this stolen tractor trailer.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
How fast is he going about?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The speedlanded about forty five, about forty five miles an
hour a year.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
He's not going to get that thing up a whole
lot faster than that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I love a stolen tractor trailer. What the hell were
you thinking? Maybe you just think that you can steal
a tractor trailer and blend in. You know, you're not
in something like a Dodge charger or anything that you'd
really want to arm yourself if you're trying to evade
the police. But stolen tractor trailer maybe flies under.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
The radar kind of It is just the rig part
of it. There's no trailer attached to this thing as
he's going through your Linda Boulevard down in the what
is it Fullerton area? Probably North State College Boulevard now
and your Belinda. So if you're in that area, you're
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going to see a bunch of helicopters here if you
haven't already, and you're gonna want to stay out of
this guy's way. But I mean, it's like you said,
he's forty forty five miles an hour. He's not really
he's not really correct.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
We know what he did put the hammer down they
want him for, and did he just steal a tractor trailer?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Maybe he's got a haul something.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Do we not oftentimes need to haul something in this
great land?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Are you suggesting that somewhere there's a trailer waiting for
this guy?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
What kind of trouble can you get into with a
stolen tractor trailer other than hauling some things?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Maybe let the man go.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I think we have a better song for this though,
clear and now go there.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You're gonna have to explain the juke to me.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Convoy ball, I mean, it's not it's not a whole convoy.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But I mean, if I guess you, if you consider
the law enforcement vehicle part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's kind of a convoy.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Okay, yeah, what is this from.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's just a song.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh okay, I don't think it was ever in a
movie floor stooping Tooker's question, is there.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Just one person in that cab? Hard to tell?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Hard to tell, I mean not getting a great view
onto the inside.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
He's using turn lanes, he's stopping at lights, he's a
that's a rolling stop. I guess it is California, So
we'll let that one go. Well, I think this man
is uh, well, actually he used the turn lane to
just go straight there, so I thought he was following
all the rules of the road.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But he's certainly going in the speed limit.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, he's keeping it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
He's keeping it relatively calm, sir, if you're if.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You're listening, give us a roll.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
There's definitely two people.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, I thought I saw somebody else in the cab.
Give us a call. Let us know what you want
the tractor trailer for. You know, maybe you just want
to haul some stuff, Maybe you're moving a kid into college.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Because that is not an efficient way to get around town.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It is not. You could get a lime skirt scooter
or you know, and not have the police chase you.
I just don't know a hell of a lot of
people that are out to do wrong and attract your trailer.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do you think he's helping a buddy ose if yeah,
you know, you know what, I don't want to do
twelve trips in exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Totally I'm gonna do. We're gonna do one trailer. We're
gonna do a one fell swoop.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Let me set this up to where you can understand it.
You get a bunch of wood delivered to your home.
You're about to build a fence, yes, and you don't
have a vehicle to haul that wood. So you get
it delivered and you find out, Yeah, you find out
that that wood is not the wood you want it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It's not your wood.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Do you want to spend the time and the frustration
and potentially the repairs to load that wood into your tesla?
Or do you want to jack a big rig and
use that to take it back to the store that
rhymes with hose.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So you're saying, this guy just got he got the
wrong wood.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Four x six is instead of four x four. Here's
damn right, and he's he's going back to the return Center. Yeah,
okay again, State College Boulevard right at Orange Thorpe.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right now down in Fullerton is.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Where the driver of this stolen rig is is leading
police on a chase.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What's his end game at this point?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Just on surface streets going thirty forty miles an hour.
You've got black and white. It's a convoy, as you
mentioned behind you. What the hell are you hoping? You're
not gonna You're not gonna get away?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I would love huh, I would.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Love it if there was a requirement that whatever kind
of vehicle you steal and are running from the cops in, yeah,
is the kind of vehicle that the police have to
chase you in. Ooh, so get a big juiceho fighter
with a exactly, get a big rig with black and
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white paint, labels, decals, everything, Make it a fair fight.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Get that thing rolling through each other. Oh, I love
it through Fullerton.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Well, the pit maneuvers would work better if you imagine.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You know, it's a good point because you're not putting
you're not putting a little Ford Explorer up against that thing.
They're stopped at a light. One sedan at the light.
Just saw what was happening and got the heck got
the heck out of Dodge.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
The guys in the black and white tried to get
out of the vehicle, maybe a chance to engage the driver.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That didn't work. He continued to drive.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So he is on East Orange Thorpe Avenue right now. Again,
not going too fast, like you said, you can only
go so fast in those bad boys.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Going about fifty five.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's pretty good, pretty fast.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
There was a point there you mentioned there, stopped at
an intersection. One of the officers tried to go to
the left into the wrong lanes the oncoming traffic to
get out in the intersection before him.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He saw them coming, so.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
That's why he jumped over to the right and took
off and went through that conversation. So he's not giving up.
He's not showing any signs of giving up.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
He is.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
This would cause massive damage if he were to roll
through one of these intersections without slowing down, and he
has been slowing down each one of these things.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, this has got to be somebody with some experience
on how to drive a rig right.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So very true, because those do not You can't just I.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Couldn't jump into one of those figure it out. You
could drive a stick, I can. You may be able
to eventually get it moving.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I just don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I've always heard that they're just you can't just jump
in and there's double cut things in the shifts in this.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Well, I've driven different sticks, you know. I had the
I didn't come out right, but we will check more.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
To one of my girlfriends in high school had the
H Was.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It the H stick?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Grease beed?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, which was cool. I forget what kind of car
that was, but it was old.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It was an old one.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Did you ever drive it with the sure earshift on
the the actual yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Ern column, Yeah, but he had a truck where that's
when it where?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
All right, Well, we'll keep an eye on this again.
A stolen big rig. It appears at least two people inside.
There's no trailer attached to this big white big rig,
but it is being chased by least three or four
different police agent or police vehicles. I'm not quite sure
which agency it is, but we'll keep an eye on
this down in the Fullerton area.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
As of right now, you're listening to Gary and Shannon
on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Forty numbers ratings wise for the Jimmy Kimmel Show. Bad numbers, right,
Like if the numbers plummet after ABC puts them back
on the air, Oh, I mean, well no, it's public knowledge, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think ABC would jump to get them out there.
(16:02):
They wouldn't, but we would know if you would find out.
If you know where to look, you can find them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But well, last night it was probably one of the
most watched episodes he's ever had.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sure because there's uh, but the precipitous fall, precipitous fault
could coach? Oh, well, have do we have an update
on our stolen big rig? There?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It appears to be stopped.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It appears that the driver of the big rig is
it was motioning with his arms through his open window
there on the driver's side, potentially speaking to the police
behind him there now in Buena Park.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It looks like, yeah, they had to haven't stopped, and
the officers had gotten out and had weapons trained on
the vehicle. But he didn't get out, nor did the passenger.
So they're on their way again. Commonwealth Avenue there in
Buena Park.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Does it add to the bravado when you've got a
buddy in the cab of the stolen vehicle with you.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
What if it's a lady.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I mean, you could impress a buddy that way too,
But what he's trying to impress a late day.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's not how you do it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Are you sure you've ever been taken on a high
speed Well, you ever been taken on a medium speed
chase before?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Have you ever been driven with a woman before?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Do you know? Annoying that would be to bleed police
on a high speed chase where you've got to make
decisions like that and you've got a broad next to
you being like.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Take the left there.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You know, if you took the left there, we would
have been there by now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I mean, that's like the horse person you would put
in that stolen vehicle.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You also make a point that I could not have
made right for safety reasons.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I drive with women too. No, but that's clearly a
dude in the in the cap and the driver's seed definitely.
Oh you think of the passenger seat too, I do. Oh,
I guess I couldn't see. Uh wait, maybe it's hard
to tell me.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
The reflections on the windshield, by the way, which looks
incredibly clean.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Do you think that's why he's going so slow because
it's abroad in there telling him to slow down.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's possible, could be, but again, just kind of basically
driving around now and wayn to park. Doesn't look like
they're really headed anywhere specific. I guess that's like you said,
what's the endgame on this?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, a lot of thing runs out of diesel. That's
hundreds and hundreds of miles.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Possibly.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Do you think they're going to Disneyland?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I doubt How would you park that at Disneyland? Oh?
This guy?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you think it's Dak Prescott? Like he stole all
that money from the Cowboys. He knows he's never going
to win the Super Bowl, so he just.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Jacked You said Dak Prescott. But I was thinking Dax Shepherd.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And why why would Dax Shepherd have all the money
stolen from the Cowboys. Sorry, I was not thinking about
it the way that you were.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I mean, they're right in the area.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Pursuit of a stolen big rig. Oh add this to
the mix. Yeah, maybe be a kidnapping.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh so it is a female.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So well, again not a guarantee.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, you're not gonna talk about a kidnapping if it's
a dude in the cab, Come on, unless it's the
driver of the big rig.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
If that's the case, why didn't the kidnap be a
out of the cab when it was stopped.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't think it was the driver of the big
rig because we know people who drive trucks and they'd
punch that guy right in the face.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Don't you think it wasn't true?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like we know female truck drivers that would punch that
guy right in the face until he was unconscious.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
This would not be something.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
This would not be the truck driver that it was
taken hostage.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Guy would be a bloodied mess on a parking lot
at a truck stop in Fontana right now, Yeah, that
was the case.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, his head would be on a stick in a
field like a yellowstone.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Will told us during the break that it is Fontana
police that are leading the pursuit here all the way
down in Buyna Park and that maybe this was stolen
from one of those one of the big truck stops
down in that area.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Uh, Fontana area.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh, that would make sense right, Yeah, So we'll see
they slow way down at times to get around some
of these tight turns now right along Auto Center Drive.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I hope, I hope that that it's not a truck
driver that was kidnapped in his own rig. That's embarrassing.
That's like a cop having his own gun stolen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You got to get out of the business.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
You cannot go back to driving a truck if you
get your rig stolen and you are kidnapped.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Now again, we'll keep an eye on this pursuit of
the stolen big rig and possible kidnapping that has taken place.
They are on Auto Center Drive there in the Buena
Park area.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But like, you can't force somebody into a big rig,
you know, if it's a kidnapping, you know, you can't
force that person in there.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's too hard to get up into that cab.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Maybe they were lured into the cab. Yeah, okay, I'll
see keep an eye on this.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love a little drama in the form of a
car chase. On a Wednesday, you're.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Dick Curtis was an actor back in the day day.
He was on the Three Stooges, he was on The
Lone Ranger Andy or the Genautry Show. Anyway, as the
story goes, Dick Curtis lent an old lady twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Oh what a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Now she was unable to repay the loans, so she
gave Curtis an old deed she had.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
It was indeed to.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
A small plot of sand in California, north of Los Angeles,
and he sold that lot for one hundred and fifty
bucks and invested the money in more Land through an
agent with the Southern Pacific Railroad. Now, that original twenty
five dollars investment, as you can imagine, grew over time
and Dick Curtis found himself owning a substantial amount of
(22:03):
desert property. He had never seen it. He assumed it
was just this large, worthless piece of sand. One day,
he decides to explore his investment, so he rides up
a dusty cattle trail from Yucca Valley and he finds
the plateau at the foot of the San Bernardino Mountains,
and he found this is the place, and the place.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Became Pioneer Town.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Pioneer Town was supposed to be this permanent Western movie.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Set in the middle of nothing. That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Dick Curtis, by the way, was six three big star
in the forties and fifties. He wanted a permanent Western
movie set there, and he wanted it to function as
a working town with businesses that would cater to film
crews and residents. The Pioneer Town Corp Broke round in
nineteen forty six. First buildings were a land office, a
(23:02):
beauty parlor, a motel, two restaurants and a feed store,
all with those old West facades now. Filming in the
town mostly stopped in the nineteen fifties, but decades later
the area continues to offer whoever stops by this unique mix.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
They call it fantasy and fiction.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Some buildings like the general store, the saddlery, the post office,
house businesses, and then others are just facades like the
jail and the barber shop.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They they're about six hundred people that live there.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, they have a great guess I haven't been there,
but they have a great live music venue called Pappy
and Harriet's. Yeah, a lot of bigger and up and
coming bands are going there to play music.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And it still takes you.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
If you're headed out to Palm Springs, you make a
left and you just go into the desert.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Basically, and now it's not just there for kitsch. As
Joe Anne Gossen will tell you. She's a local shopkeeper
and a goat farmer. She's been there for twenty one years.
She says, this is not Nott's Berry Farm. This is
a real town and it is our town. They say
they're settling into a new equilibrium there. Interesting established businesses
(24:23):
like the Red Dog Saloon and the Pioneertown Motel are
offering stable employment to locals and transplants alike. Visitors will
find there's much more to do than wait two hours
for a table at Pappy and Harriet's. You grab tacos
at the Red Dog Saloon. There's natural bath products you
can buy at Zeba Botanica. There's a historic bowling alley
(24:47):
that's cool, and there's a cowboy store. Suki Modern got
a big good bagel place there apparently too, New York
style bagels. We should go uh okay, it's we should
do the show from there.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
From Pioneer Town.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, Pappy and Harriets both either or we should do
it from Pappy and Harriets.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean, if they'll have us.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Itschy little place.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Well, it's not just about the kitch, I know.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But it's not It's not about the kitch, but it
is kitchi. Yeah, but it's not all about that. There's
been big there's been big plans surrounding Pioneer Town in
recent years. In the sixties, a car salesman from Ohio
bought the Pioneer Town Corp. Proposed plans to create a
massive desert resort town homes, apartments, lakes, golf courses. He
(25:41):
predicted it would draw a population of thirty five thousand. Well,
that business went bankrupt, and then during the pandemic, a
mountain guide and a supervising producer for Red Bull Media
scared all the locals like our friend Joanne, with a
plan to convert three hundred and fifty acres into events
space with residences, a recording studio, an amphitheater.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Oh yeah, everybody wants Red Bull in their neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
That project was eventually downgraded to a pricey airbnb, and
by the time that was completed, the Red Bull guy
was no longer a part of it.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Carl Sotter, he's a curator of the small film History
museum there in Pioneer Town. He says that the town
has been protected by major development by what he calls
the Curtis curse. Of course Curtis after Dick Curtis, the
actor that we talked about. He says, you can be
successful in Pioneer Town, but if you get greedy or
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you try to do something that messes up the environment
or the community.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Itself, you will fail. I love that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It's good. It's nice for people to have pride in
the place that they live.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well and not to let it get ruined by a
whole outsiders who come in and want to make a
mockery of the place.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
That Pioneer Town Hotel Motel, sorry, Pioneer Town Motown. There's
a petting zoo has a has pretty good ratings for
people who have stayed here.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
And there's a petting zoo where ten dollars will buy
you twenty minutes with the chickens and the turkeys and
a small horse.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I love a petting zoo. Okay, I think we should
do it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm in It's fine by me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
An update on this chase, by the way, we're watching
Fontana police have chased this big rig with no trailer
on it all the way to do the Wuayna Park area.
Went on the ninety one onto the five. Now back
on surface streets right near Auto Center.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Drive. Hey, Gary and Shannon, Hey, y'all, let.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Me turn you up a little bit because I had
to turn way down. Try it again, Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Garan, Shannon. Hey, So he's driving without a trailer. The
correct terminology would be bobtailing. Got it. Have a good day, guys.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, oh hell yeah, bobtailor. That was a good horn.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I added that like, oh you did you forgot to
help the horn news. Oh that was a very loud horn. Yeah, bobtailing.
But usually when a driver's move in attractor to a
new location, returning from a delivery, 're going to go
pick up a new load. It's dangerous, guys, because this
tractor is significantly lighter.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It's less stable as.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You can imagine without the trailer's weight and traction, so
you're looking at changes and breaking handling overall control. Really
good thing it's sunny in seventy two degrees, because if
we had adverse weather conditions, this would be uh mess difficult.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, he's been down this road before. Unfortunately Commonwealth Again
on in point of park.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You're going to see longer stopping distances, greater risk of
loss of control without that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Both tractor channels four and five.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
He's slowing to slowing to a stop. Oh what did
he just do? He just grabbed something from that other car.
Is that a way mo? What the hell is that
other car?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I just think it was oh battering Ram came in.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
By the way, bear cat has entered the chat.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Bear cat just popped into the chat unceremoniously with the
attempted a pit maneuver.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, he came almost head on to that big rip.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Oh, now he's pissed.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now that bearcat driver's pissed chased him ps. The reason
that happened to is if you know about bobtailing, it
comes with massive blind spots. I don't even think he
saw that bear cat come.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
In the way that he had.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He was approaching from the side though, Uh, right, like
that the backside of that thing.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
This is I don't think I've ever seen a bear
cat involved in a chase like this.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well you've got to because you've got to match. What
happened was the black and white cars are listening to
Gary and Shannon, and they go Gary just had this
idea that we should have a sizeable vehicle. And if
you're the if you're the officer driving the bear cat,
you're like, wait, I get to I get to put
my foot into Oh, that's.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Why this is going to be great.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And and he's pissed off because the first Pittman over
didn't work. All right, Well, so now you've got a
pissed off officer behind the wheel of a bear cat
in pursuit.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
We'll keep an eye on this and see if anything happens.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh my gosh, I can't believe we have to take
a break.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
What am I watching on this Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I'm watching this chase we.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Are Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've
been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can
always hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine
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