October 14, 2025 • 28 mins
#WHATSHAPPENING: Newsom Fire Fighters, Kaiser Strike, Trump and Charlie Kirk Award, RIP D’Angelo. Brigida Dagostino Lost Job Due to A.I! True Crime Tuesday: BTK Killer
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Exciting things this hour, this massive
twelve o'clock hour, will be given away some pairs of
Chargers tickets. We're going to be given away your chance
at one thousand dollars. We're gonna be given away some charcouterie.
(00:23):
We've got a story about a girl who grew up
with a dad who was a serial killer. I mean,
really something for everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That sounds like a huge twelve o'clock hour.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's enormous.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Gary the hugest, I wanted to play this for you
because I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Hey, Gary and Shannon rob here in oc. I just
came across a commercial with Elizabeth Banks. I just realized
how much Shannon looks like Elizabeth Banks. Do you guys
have like celebrity double gangers that you guys are always
mistaken for?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Thanks guys, Thanks, that's funny. You're the only one that
you have her as my profile picture on your phone.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Really that there's a.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'll take it. I will take it all day and
twice on Sunday and say thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I specifically have her as Effie Trinket from the Hunger
Games as your profile. That's my phone. You and my
wife have both said Steve Martin. But Steve Martin is
almost eighty, if not eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I've always said a young Steve Martin.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I appreciate that clarification.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, and everyone loves Steve Martin. It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Does everybody love Steve? Does he have a bad attitude
at all?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I hope not.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think he's universally loved. It's not like Chevy Chase.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'll bring the bad attitude people will.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They can say that's stink and think and Gary, you are.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Going to use that, aren't you?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah? Aren't you?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The flash flood warnings continue.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Is this something your mother's? Is this something your mom said?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Stinking thinking?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh, it's like a cartoon. Are like a public service
announcement that came up during Oh okay, that's what it sounds.
That does sound like a PSA or Stuart's smally from
Saturday Night Live. Just a really cheesy self motivation thing
to say to yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Interesting stink and thinking, AI says, is a cloak wheale
term for negative and distorted thought patterns, also known as
cognitive distortions, often lead to things of failure, unhappiness, and
self sabotage. Look at you self care over there? Huh,
stinking thinking?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What else is going on? Time for what's happening? We
got fascinating there.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I went down the whole of stinking thing. Well, it's raining, guys.
If you if you haven't gotten up yet, you'reself rolling
around in bed? Good on you, good on you her
this morning. That's so stupid. I hate that term. There
was stink and thinking. Keep using it in bedrot too,
like get out of here, I'm just in.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That sounds awful, all of those because every time we
do stories about someone who you know, sat on the
couch for seven months and grew into the fabric, that's
what I think of, is bedrot.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh you have to burn that mattress.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh God. Anyway, it is raining, and there is a
flash flood watch in effect through one o'clock. I believe,
unless it's been extended, we're gonna have several inches of
rain by Wednesday morning. So tomorrow morning this thing should
be headed out. For people who are already done with it.
We do have a severe thunderstorm in effect, or actually
(03:40):
it expired. It has expired. The thunderstorm, yes, warning, but
the flash flooding has not. It's still in effect at
least until one o'clock and a lot of the rain itself.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
If you're sort of in the Thousand Oaks area right now,
it looks like the rain is basically mirroring the four
h five. But over the next hour or so is
when it's going to diminish significantly. So the heaviest of
the rains fell overnight and into this morning. If you're
still up over in the San Bernardino Mountains, you're headed
(04:11):
out towards Vegas on the fifteen, you're going to see
rain pretty significantly over the next several hours. And there
was a lot of rain that fell just north of
the Grapevine where that new hard Rock casino is in Bakersfield,
parts north. But the good news is a lot of snow,
a lot of snow already falling in the southern Sierra.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Incarcerated firefighters the subject of a set of bills that
Gavin Newsom has signed. They're meant to recognize incarcerated firefighters.
These are the guys that are taken out of incarceration
and put on the fire lines, they're going to see
an increase in pay, a new death benefit, and a
faster path to expungement of their criminal records. Here this
(04:50):
is a historic measure to raise their pay to meet
the federal minimum wage during active fires. Of course, this
took on new urgency after hundreds of them were to
play to battle those fires that hit in January, with
short staffing and the like, and just the quickness which
with those fires took off. It's a seven bill firefighting
(05:10):
to freedom package.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
May not have been the best weather for it, but
thousands of US unionized Kaiser Permanente registered nurses and health
professionals began a five day strike today here in California,
but also in Hawaii. They're represented by the United Nurses
Association of California and the Union of Healthcare Professional Professionals.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They started picketing this morning.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
The company said the hospitals and medical officers will stay
open during the strike and will shift appointments to virtual
care via phone, video and e chat. In some cases,
some elective surgeries and procedures might have to be rescheduled,
but to contact your provider, your kaiser provider, if you
need to.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Check on it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, President Trump is going to posthumously award Charlie Kirk
the nation's Presidential Medal of Freedom. He was, of course,
shot and killed just over a month ago while he
was speaking at Utah Valley University. Trump announced later that day.
In fact, the President was the first to announce later
(06:15):
that day that he had died.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, I've gotten to the root of stink and thinking. Okay,
it is a parody of self help, part of the
parity of self help culture created by Al Franken. So
I was right, yeah, Stuart Smalley. There's some other places
that it's used in terms of self help programs for
(06:38):
your self sabotage. Okay, I know that you haven't spent
any time in those because you loved self sabotage, So
I figured it must be Stuart Smalley. Stuart's girlfriend Julia
dismisses his despair about his weight as future's lack of
love as stink and thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah. The phrase originated from the character Stuart Smalley on
SNL and then in the subsequent film Stuart saves his
family things like I'm gonna die homeless and pennyless and
I should just kill myself. Julia says that stinking thinking
that makes sense.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kfi
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We've got your chance at one thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Now your chance to win one thousand dollars. Just enter
this nationwide keyword on our website win. That's win, wim
Enter it now at KFIAM six forty dot com. Slash
cash Howard by Sweet James Accident Attorneys. If you're hurting
an accident, Winning is everything.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Call the winning attorneys at Sweet James.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
One eight hundred nine million that's one eight hundred nine
million or sweet James dot com.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Again the keyword win that goes on the website. Keep
an eye on your email on box, since that's how
we let you know that you won your one thousand dollars.
And an hour from now, during the John Cobelt Show,
we're gonna give you another shot at win in one
thousand bucks. Hey, look, could I got a pair of
I got another pair of you got a pair of chargers?
Take and you know what we're gonna do with this one.
We're gonna do some charcoutering. Yes, you will win, not
(08:13):
just a pair of Chargers tickets for this weekend's game
against the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
At so far, you're.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Gonna win a fifty dollars gift card to Gray's Craze.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
When life hands see coutery boards and boxes. When life
hands you lemons, pair them with Brie and a grays
Craze board. Think next level charcuteri, premium meats, cheeses, and
more handcrafted for your guests. Order pickup, delivery or catering
at Grayscraze dot com, Celebrate Everything.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Check them out on Instagram the If you're not hungry
for a charcutery board, you will be when you check
them out of craise HQ call her number seven once again.
One eight hundred five to zero one five three four
eight hundred five to oh one kfi not just a
pair of Chargers tickets, but also a fifty dollars gift
card to Gray's Craze.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Couterie Boards and Boxes.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Bridgeta Degastino is doing our news today and she got
fired from a job because of her use of AI.
We have to hear this story. It is true.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
What happened so I had my kid in twenty twenty two.
I took some time off. Then I decided I should
get back and get a little job, so I did.
And within six months of chat GPT launching this company
decided they didn't need to pay journalists and TV hosts
and producers and writers and lighting crews, et cetera anymore.
They were just going to use apps that would create
(09:33):
fake hosts using AI and putting scripts in. And I
created a little host with that program that looked just
like me, And it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That was yow, that's what's going to happen to us.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Everyone's worried about immigrants taking your jobs. We'll wait till
GPT takes your jobs.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's going to happen. I have had
so many people recently, more than I remember having asked
me if this show is scripted? If it's scripted, yes, yeah,
And I say, if somebody handed us that script, we
would throw it in the garbage can immediately.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, there's no we would be like what, I'm sorry,
what stinking thinking?
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Gary?
Speaker 9 (10:15):
And Shannon is Jeff and and seen him? What I
have come across the phrase stinking thinking? It's been in
a book that somebody who was very successful in real
estate or selling insurance or sailing cars, and they write
a book about it and their success, and they use
(10:37):
the term what holds you back is stinking thinking. And
that's how I know the term.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That didn't hold him back from this morning six pack?
Did it?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Whoa ouch?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know? He just sounded like he was having a
good tuesday. Like I could see that guy like reclining
with like a maybe a PAPS, like a PBR.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Maybe a cigarette, No, no, no, old weather drink would be
more appropriate.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh like a hot toddy or something.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Toddy, some mulled wine.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I don't know. Okay, do you see him in
a scarf then?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Too?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Sure, like a little sky like a nice scarf scarf.
I just see him enjoying the day. You know, why
not if you're not, If you're not, it's stinking thinking.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Hey guys, I had chat GPT write a poem for
my mom. Not the warmest and the fuzziest cow, but anyway,
so I sent her a poem and she didn't respond.
So I asked her how she liked the poem, and
she says, it's a little over the top.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh yeah, see they'll they'll know. That's the other thing
with women, they know it's not you.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
Hi, Gary and Shannon, this is Claire and answer to
your question about what I used chat gpy Tea to
send a romantic message. Yes, because a lot of times
you just put in what you want to say, the
feeling you want to portray, and the message, and it
will give you such a much better way of expressing
(12:02):
it than you could normally.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So yes, Claire has a sexy voice. She could say,
you know, not a lot.
Speaker 11 (12:11):
You know that's up Garry Shandon a great show as always. Yeah,
what's a big deal. It's like you go to the
store and buy a Hallmark card anyway that's written by
somebody else. So the chat GPT seems to be more
Taylor made for your relationship, whatever you kind of put
(12:32):
in there or whatever you know.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I mean.
Speaker 11 (12:35):
Anyway, I don't see a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think people would see a big deal.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I think we should try it maybe around Christmas time
and see what our spouses think. If they'll notice my
anniversary is coming up in December. I don't think you
want to mess around with your anniversary. If Christmas is
more forgiving, it's not this personal how much of a minefield?
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Well, Garry, happening to your testosterone? Oh, you keep talking
about Diane Keaton, and you guys start sounding more like
the view. I know you want to keep your masculinity
because it shows up every once in a while, but
you're kind of like too far.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Gone, sir. She just died. We get to mention Diane Keaton.
The lady died at only seventy nine years old. She
had a storied career. We're going to talk about Diane
Keaton a little bit. It doesn't mean anyone's testosterone is
suffering from me?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Is that more?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You was sticking up for you?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh, you're not sticking Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I was sticking up sometimes when I come across people
with lower testosterone than me.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I bet he can think.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It's been around AA for probably one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh really, you might want to do some research.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I did it did say it did say that, you know,
program helps, but most of them are around like self
talk and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
All right up, next, start True Crime Tuesday. What happens
when you're a family member of a serial killer?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Who are you? How do you find your own identity?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Fragile ceasefire that exists now between Israel and Hamas is
being tested already. An Israeli military agency said it's gonna
cut in half the number of trucks that are allowed
to bring humanitarian aid into Gaza over concerns about how
slow the Hamas officials have been and when it comes
to returning the remains of the dead hostages.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The issue came a day after what we.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Saw is huge celebrations over the return of the last
twenty living hostages that were being held by Hamas.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We have a pair of Chargers tickets for the game
this Sunday against the visiting Indianapolis Colts, who are the
hottest team with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NF
well atop the AFC. They are right now at five
and one. They will be coming to town. So we've
got a pair of Chargers tickets for color number.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Let's do seven.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That's been a good number session. Okay, let's go eight
hundred five two zero one five three four. That's eight
hundred five to oh one. KFI again, Caller number seven,
gonna win a pair of tickets to the game this
Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
There is a very popular documentary centering around the BTK
Killer on Netflix right now. The BTK Killer is interesting
because Number one, this was a killer who was active
for many years and then when dormant was getting no
attention ward around Wichita was that he was dead or incarcerated.
(15:46):
He didn't like that, so he resurfaced. The other thing
interesting about him is, oh, he was living a double life.
He was a married father of two and very involved
in the community. The BTK Killer the topic for our
True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The story is true.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
True No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So it was early on in my career here in
KFI that we announced the arrest of the BTK Killer.
And if you remember, Eric Leonard currently works for k
ANDBC over the Hill there for Channel four was one
of those people who received a letter from this guy.
BTK stood for bind torture kill, kind of the signature
(16:37):
way that this man would leave the bodies for police
to find. Victims varied first a young family and then
he transitioned to women of various ages and economic backgrounds,
and again he would go between killings for a couple
of years at a time.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
By two thousand and five, when you were new here
at KFI, myself included, b BTK was considered one of
the biggest cold cases in the entire state. One of
the things that this documentary, and it's quick one, it's
about an hour and a half, well done, kind of
takes you back to the late seventies, early eighties and
a comforting old school way of doing crime stories. The
(17:15):
way that they do it does it anyway. One of
the things that sticks out is that they didn't like
to talk about this in Kansas and Wichita. They didn't
like to own it. They did not like to talk
about it. They didn't want to admit that it was
still a cold case, that this person could be living
amongst some which he was. It just kind of went
(17:35):
by the wayside. Oh yeah, that was a bad time
kind of a deal when it was in fact a
deal that paralyzed the entire city. So two thousand and
five considered one of the biggest cold cases in the
entire state. And that's when FBI agents knock knock, knock
on the door of Carrie Rawson who had grown up
(17:57):
in Wichita. She was living in Michigan at the time,
newly married, and the FBI agent said, your dad was
the BTK killer and we've just arrested him.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So Dennis Raider is her dad's name. He pleads guilty
to ten counts first degree murder, incarcerated, serving ten consecutive
life sentences.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now can you imagine that moment that day. You're a
newly married, twenty five year old or something a similar
age as me. I think she's the same age, and
she is my father? What? Now, this is a notorious
case that you grew up with. It was in the
shadow of your hometown. This is your father who took
(18:42):
you to practices. He was the leader of the Lutheran
church in the area. Yeah, he would kind of be
particular about certain things. You knew certain things not to
do around dad, or else you'd get kind of pissed
off unnecessarily so, but doesn't every dad what my dad
the BTK what? In the documentary, and this is twenty
(19:05):
years later, she's still kind of wrestling with understanding that
her father, who was just this everyday suburban dad, would
be this monster. At the same time.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And you mentioned that there is sort of a Midwest
attitude of you keep things quiet, you have outward appearances,
and whatever turmoil may be going on on the inside
is where it stays. It stays on the inside. And
she says, I spent ten years after he was arrested
not being able to speak, not thinking I was allowed
(19:39):
to speak.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well. Her mother is a big part of that. Mom
never believed that the police had the right guy. Mom
wouldn't have it. That's not your father, that's not if
she could not understand that she had shared the same
bed with this man. In fact, after he was arrested,
she asked her daughter, will you just come sleep with
(20:00):
I can't sleep, And her daughter's like, I can't sleep
in that bed that he slept in if he did this,
and her mother, no, they got the wrong guy. They're
still not speaking the mother and the daughter over this,
which just rips apart the family. But you start second
guessing everything, you know, Oh wait, there was that one
soccer game that he was not at. Was he killing
(20:22):
somebody when he wasn't there? He was supposed to be there,
he was supposed to bring the sliced oranges. For some reason,
he wasn't there. I mean, all these little things that
you're second guessing, was your whole She says one of
these things really poignantly in the beginning of the documentary,
Were we all just a lie?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Was my family just a lie? So he could get
away with this? Was this his real life? Was this
what he wanted to do with his life? But he
just used this family as this beard like he was
our I thought he was my dad, but he was
he just playing a role as dad when this was
the true self. But you'd have to think that, you'd
(20:58):
have to have those questions.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So she describes his personality and you alluded to it,
but we'll talk about what she saw in her father
that in the moment never would have really raised any
suspicion outside of Dad has a temper a little bit,
a little bit a while, but that that now that
we know the full she knows the full context of it,
(21:21):
can put a better description, like my dad.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Would get like this if I if I took the
remote control and turned off a game. But he wasn't
out killing people. I mean, it's not red flag type behavior.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Well, and my dad, my dad was in northern California
and would have been the right age for the Zodiac Killer.
He wasn't, but you know, but he knew people who
were questioned in those cases that really were considered lead
suspects in the Zodiac case.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Fascinating and it's.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I mean just wrapping your hand well.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And the documentary gets into that too, like this girl's
school friends that would come over to the house and like,
of course it's just Dennis right, Like what.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
All right, We'll continue here with this True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Just a moment, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Hey, let's do this before we get back in.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Let's do something good before we have to put everybody
back down. We have one more pair tickets to the
Chargers game this weekend. They're playing the Indianapolis Colts on
Sunday afternoon. One more of those and and a fifty
dollars gift card to Gray's Craze Charcuterie boards and boxes.
When life hands you lemons, pair them with Brion a
Craze Craze board. I think next level charcuterie, Think premium
(22:41):
meats and cheeses and more, all hand crafted for your guests.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You can order for pickup or delivery or catering.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
At Grayscraze dot com Celebrate Everything collar number.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What did you say? Seven?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Sounds good? Yeah, eight hundred five to zero one five
three four. That's eight hundred and five to two oh one. KFI.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Now, I don't want anybody to remember where you all
have to be in two days, because it's t minus
forty eight hours. It's forty forty one hours something like that.
Forty I don't know. Listen, I don't do math right.
Be a BJS in Huntington Beach on Beach Boulevard Thursday,
(23:23):
nine am is when the show starts. You know what
to do? You know how to mobilize. If you don't,
we'll find you and we'll bring you out of your
homes and we'll take you to b jys. It'll be weird,
and I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Make it weird. It's not going to be weird.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No. If we go to people's homes and take them
out of their beds, no, okay, it should be sunny
by then.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's a duty.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It is a duty. It should be understood that you
should be there.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Right, something like that. Duty.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Oh, Elmer, that's too easy, buddy, that's stink and thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Try Homer home.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
We're talking about aha, she said, duty.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
We're talking about this new Netflix documentary called My Father
the BTK Killer. It concentrates a lot on Carrie Rassen,
who is Dennis Raider's daughter. Dennis Raider, of course, the
admitted BTK killer is doing ten consecutive life sentences in
a prison in Kansas. And this discussion of the kind
(24:27):
of piecing together what you learn about your father after
the horrific murders, after the publicity of the arrest of
the BTK killer, the prison, the sentencing, etc. And then
the moments of quiet when you're trying to piece together
what your father was doing and how it fits into
what you remember about your childhood and your life growing up,
(24:50):
among other things. For example, he gave his daughter a
station wagon to drive around during high schoo Right, that's
probably the best thing you could do to your kid,
is given an awful, ugly car they don't want to
spend time in, so that they don't get addicted to
it the way we did when we were sixteen. But
(25:11):
now she looks back and realizes that that was a
kill mobile. Basically that he used it to kill some
of his victims and used it to transport bodies.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Imagine the first car you're driving around. How many memories
you have in that car, how many firsts, The feeling
of freedom that you have when you're driving that car
by yourself, even if it's the family car. And the
juxtaposition of your feeling of freedom with the absolute lack
of freedom of somebody who could be tied up in
(25:44):
the back there. I mean, it's wild. They found his
kill bag, you know, a bag with a gun, ropes,
other break in items stored prominently in the entryway's coke closet.
No one ever looked in the bag, I guess. In
his office they had evidence of his kills, including personal
items kept personal items to the victims, kept accessible in
(26:07):
an unlocked filing cabinet. And like you mentioned, it was
interesting how he communicated with the press and the police.
It was almost like he was lacking patients when they
couldn't find him, and he was giving him hints, and
he was giving him hints about his former crimes and
hints about his future crimes. One of the crimes that
(26:29):
he I would say, taunted with, but kind of it
just seemed like he wanted to be caught honestly. But
one of the crimes involved a woman who was rushed
from a scene of her home to the hospital. They
thought they could save her life, so no photos were
taken of the crime scene because of paramedics get there,
they see she's still breathing, her as a pulse, they
take her out of there.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So that crime scene was, you know, contaminating to save
go life. However, there were pictures of the crime scene
taken by the killer, the only pictures of the crime scene,
and those were sent to the media to kind of say, hey,
I'm your guy, and here's proof. These pictures don't exist
except for in the killer's camera.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
This is probably the part that would be the hardest.
She says she reached out to her dad in prison
and tried to continue some aspect of their relationship, said
that she was always available to talk, that she desperately
wanted and needed some of the answers about why and
how he was doing all of this. She says that
they have been in contact, but that he does not
(27:38):
answer those questions.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I just I fell asleep last night watching this
because I like.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That, SAIDs calming. Yes, sleep sounds.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Lovely, and I was dozing off right at the time
that she writes him a letter and he writes back,
and he's so happy to hear from his daughter. And
then I had that good fuzzy feeling and I went
right to sleep. It's news to full light hours, good buzzy.
I'm a broken person or other broken people are coming
(28:06):
up next John Cobot and the show and the show,
the show that he's doing, the show that he's doing.
And Conway, I mean, Conway's not broken. He's perfectly put together, hope.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
So yeah, and we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
No, well, we'll actually see you on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
We'll see you on Thursday, but just the collect.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Oh now, okay, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Grammar police over there.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
All right, have a great rainy afternoon, you too, see
you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Stay dry, blessing. You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio ap
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Exciting things this hour, this massive
twelve o'clock hour, will be given away some pairs of
Chargers tickets. We're going to be given away your chance
at one thousand dollars. We're gonna be given away some charcouterie.
(00:23):
We've got a story about a girl who grew up
with a dad who was a serial killer. I mean,
really something for everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That sounds like a huge twelve o'clock hour.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's enormous.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Gary the hugest, I wanted to play this for you
because I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Hey, Gary and Shannon rob here in oc. I just
came across a commercial with Elizabeth Banks. I just realized
how much Shannon looks like Elizabeth Banks. Do you guys
have like celebrity double gangers that you guys are always
mistaken for?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Thanks guys, Thanks, that's funny. You're the only one that
you have her as my profile picture on your phone.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Really that there's a.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'll take it. I will take it all day and
twice on Sunday and say thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I specifically have her as Effie Trinket from the Hunger
Games as your profile. That's my phone. You and my
wife have both said Steve Martin. But Steve Martin is
almost eighty, if not eighty.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I've always said a young Steve Martin.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I appreciate that clarification.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, and everyone loves Steve Martin. It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Does everybody love Steve? Does he have a bad attitude
at all?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I hope not.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think he's universally loved. It's not like Chevy Chase.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'll bring the bad attitude people will.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They can say that's stink and think and Gary, you are.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Going to use that, aren't you?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah? Aren't you?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The flash flood warnings continue.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Is this something your mother's? Is this something your mom said?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Stinking thinking?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh, it's like a cartoon. Are like a public service
announcement that came up during Oh okay, that's what it sounds.
That does sound like a PSA or Stuart's smally from
Saturday Night Live. Just a really cheesy self motivation thing
to say to yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Interesting stink and thinking, AI says, is a cloak wheale
term for negative and distorted thought patterns, also known as
cognitive distortions, often lead to things of failure, unhappiness, and
self sabotage. Look at you self care over there? Huh,
stinking thinking?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What else is going on? Time for what's happening? We
got fascinating there.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I went down the whole of stinking thing. Well, it's raining, guys.
If you if you haven't gotten up yet, you'reself rolling
around in bed? Good on you, good on you her
this morning. That's so stupid. I hate that term. There
was stink and thinking. Keep using it in bedrot too,
like get out of here, I'm just in.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That sounds awful, all of those because every time we
do stories about someone who you know, sat on the
couch for seven months and grew into the fabric, that's
what I think of, is bedrot.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh you have to burn that mattress.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh God. Anyway, it is raining, and there is a
flash flood watch in effect through one o'clock. I believe,
unless it's been extended, we're gonna have several inches of
rain by Wednesday morning. So tomorrow morning this thing should
be headed out. For people who are already done with it.
We do have a severe thunderstorm in effect, or actually
(03:40):
it expired. It has expired. The thunderstorm, yes, warning, but
the flash flooding has not. It's still in effect at
least until one o'clock and a lot of the rain itself.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
If you're sort of in the Thousand Oaks area right now,
it looks like the rain is basically mirroring the four
h five. But over the next hour or so is
when it's going to diminish significantly. So the heaviest of
the rains fell overnight and into this morning. If you're
still up over in the San Bernardino Mountains, you're headed
(04:11):
out towards Vegas on the fifteen, you're going to see
rain pretty significantly over the next several hours. And there
was a lot of rain that fell just north of
the Grapevine where that new hard Rock casino is in Bakersfield,
parts north. But the good news is a lot of snow,
a lot of snow already falling in the southern Sierra.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Incarcerated firefighters the subject of a set of bills that
Gavin Newsom has signed. They're meant to recognize incarcerated firefighters.
These are the guys that are taken out of incarceration
and put on the fire lines, they're going to see
an increase in pay, a new death benefit, and a
faster path to expungement of their criminal records. Here this
(04:50):
is a historic measure to raise their pay to meet
the federal minimum wage during active fires. Of course, this
took on new urgency after hundreds of them were to
play to battle those fires that hit in January, with
short staffing and the like, and just the quickness which
with those fires took off. It's a seven bill firefighting
(05:10):
to freedom package.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
May not have been the best weather for it, but
thousands of US unionized Kaiser Permanente registered nurses and health
professionals began a five day strike today here in California,
but also in Hawaii. They're represented by the United Nurses
Association of California and the Union of Healthcare Professional Professionals.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They started picketing this morning.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
The company said the hospitals and medical officers will stay
open during the strike and will shift appointments to virtual
care via phone, video and e chat. In some cases,
some elective surgeries and procedures might have to be rescheduled,
but to contact your provider, your kaiser provider, if you
need to.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Check on it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, President Trump is going to posthumously award Charlie Kirk
the nation's Presidential Medal of Freedom. He was, of course,
shot and killed just over a month ago while he
was speaking at Utah Valley University. Trump announced later that day.
In fact, the President was the first to announce later
(06:15):
that day that he had died.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yes, I've gotten to the root of stink and thinking. Okay,
it is a parody of self help, part of the
parity of self help culture created by Al Franken. So
I was right, yeah, Stuart Smalley. There's some other places
that it's used in terms of self help programs for
(06:38):
your self sabotage. Okay, I know that you haven't spent
any time in those because you loved self sabotage, So
I figured it must be Stuart Smalley. Stuart's girlfriend Julia
dismisses his despair about his weight as future's lack of
love as stink and thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah. The phrase originated from the character Stuart Smalley on
SNL and then in the subsequent film Stuart saves his
family things like I'm gonna die homeless and pennyless and
I should just kill myself. Julia says that stinking thinking
that makes sense.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kfi
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We've got your chance at one thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Now your chance to win one thousand dollars. Just enter
this nationwide keyword on our website win. That's win, wim
Enter it now at KFIAM six forty dot com. Slash
cash Howard by Sweet James Accident Attorneys. If you're hurting
an accident, Winning is everything.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Call the winning attorneys at Sweet James.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
One eight hundred nine million that's one eight hundred nine
million or sweet James dot com.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Again the keyword win that goes on the website. Keep
an eye on your email on box, since that's how
we let you know that you won your one thousand dollars.
And an hour from now, during the John Cobelt Show,
we're gonna give you another shot at win in one
thousand bucks. Hey, look, could I got a pair of
I got another pair of you got a pair of chargers?
Take and you know what we're gonna do with this one.
We're gonna do some charcoutering. Yes, you will win, not
(08:13):
just a pair of Chargers tickets for this weekend's game
against the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
At so far, you're.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Gonna win a fifty dollars gift card to Gray's Craze.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
When life hands see coutery boards and boxes. When life
hands you lemons, pair them with Brie and a grays
Craze board. Think next level charcuteri, premium meats, cheeses, and
more handcrafted for your guests. Order pickup, delivery or catering
at Grayscraze dot com, Celebrate Everything.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Check them out on Instagram the If you're not hungry
for a charcutery board, you will be when you check
them out of craise HQ call her number seven once again.
One eight hundred five to zero one five three four
eight hundred five to oh one kfi not just a
pair of Chargers tickets, but also a fifty dollars gift
card to Gray's Craze.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Couterie Boards and Boxes.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Bridgeta Degastino is doing our news today and she got
fired from a job because of her use of AI.
We have to hear this story. It is true.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
What happened so I had my kid in twenty twenty two.
I took some time off. Then I decided I should
get back and get a little job, so I did.
And within six months of chat GPT launching this company
decided they didn't need to pay journalists and TV hosts
and producers and writers and lighting crews, et cetera anymore.
They were just going to use apps that would create
(09:33):
fake hosts using AI and putting scripts in. And I
created a little host with that program that looked just
like me, And it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That was yow, that's what's going to happen to us.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Everyone's worried about immigrants taking your jobs. We'll wait till
GPT takes your jobs.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's going to happen. I have had
so many people recently, more than I remember having asked
me if this show is scripted? If it's scripted, yes, yeah,
And I say, if somebody handed us that script, we
would throw it in the garbage can immediately.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, there's no we would be like what, I'm sorry,
what stinking thinking?
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Gary?
Speaker 9 (10:15):
And Shannon is Jeff and and seen him? What I
have come across the phrase stinking thinking? It's been in
a book that somebody who was very successful in real
estate or selling insurance or sailing cars, and they write
a book about it and their success, and they use
(10:37):
the term what holds you back is stinking thinking. And
that's how I know the term.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That didn't hold him back from this morning six pack?
Did it?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Whoa ouch?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I know? He just sounded like he was having a
good tuesday. Like I could see that guy like reclining
with like a maybe a PAPS, like a PBR.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Maybe a cigarette, No, no, no, old weather drink would be
more appropriate.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh like a hot toddy or something.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Toddy, some mulled wine.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I don't know. Okay, do you see him in
a scarf then?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Too?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Sure, like a little sky like a nice scarf scarf.
I just see him enjoying the day. You know, why
not if you're not, If you're not, it's stinking thinking.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Hey guys, I had chat GPT write a poem for
my mom. Not the warmest and the fuzziest cow, but anyway,
so I sent her a poem and she didn't respond.
So I asked her how she liked the poem, and
she says, it's a little over the top.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh yeah, see they'll they'll know. That's the other thing
with women, they know it's not you.
Speaker 10 (11:40):
Hi, Gary and Shannon, this is Claire and answer to
your question about what I used chat gpy Tea to
send a romantic message. Yes, because a lot of times
you just put in what you want to say, the
feeling you want to portray, and the message, and it
will give you such a much better way of expressing
(12:02):
it than you could normally.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So yes, Claire has a sexy voice. She could say,
you know, not a lot.
Speaker 11 (12:11):
You know that's up Garry Shandon a great show as always. Yeah,
what's a big deal. It's like you go to the
store and buy a Hallmark card anyway that's written by
somebody else. So the chat GPT seems to be more
Taylor made for your relationship, whatever you kind of put
(12:32):
in there or whatever you know.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I mean.
Speaker 11 (12:35):
Anyway, I don't see a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think people would see a big deal.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I think we should try it maybe around Christmas time
and see what our spouses think. If they'll notice my
anniversary is coming up in December. I don't think you
want to mess around with your anniversary. If Christmas is
more forgiving, it's not this personal how much of a minefield?
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Well, Garry, happening to your testosterone? Oh, you keep talking
about Diane Keaton, and you guys start sounding more like
the view. I know you want to keep your masculinity
because it shows up every once in a while, but
you're kind of like too far.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Gone, sir. She just died. We get to mention Diane Keaton.
The lady died at only seventy nine years old. She
had a storied career. We're going to talk about Diane
Keaton a little bit. It doesn't mean anyone's testosterone is
suffering from me?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Is that more?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You was sticking up for you?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh, you're not sticking Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I was sticking up sometimes when I come across people
with lower testosterone than me.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I bet he can think.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It's been around AA for probably one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh really, you might want to do some research.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I did it did say it did say that, you know,
program helps, but most of them are around like self
talk and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
All right up, next, start True Crime Tuesday. What happens
when you're a family member of a serial killer?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Who are you? How do you find your own identity?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Fragile ceasefire that exists now between Israel and Hamas is
being tested already. An Israeli military agency said it's gonna
cut in half the number of trucks that are allowed
to bring humanitarian aid into Gaza over concerns about how
slow the Hamas officials have been and when it comes
to returning the remains of the dead hostages.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The issue came a day after what we.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Saw is huge celebrations over the return of the last
twenty living hostages that were being held by Hamas.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We have a pair of Chargers tickets for the game
this Sunday against the visiting Indianapolis Colts, who are the
hottest team with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NF
well atop the AFC. They are right now at five
and one. They will be coming to town. So we've
got a pair of Chargers tickets for color number.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Let's do seven.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That's been a good number session. Okay, let's go eight
hundred five two zero one five three four. That's eight
hundred five to oh one. KFI again, Caller number seven,
gonna win a pair of tickets to the game this
Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
There is a very popular documentary centering around the BTK
Killer on Netflix right now. The BTK Killer is interesting
because Number one, this was a killer who was active
for many years and then when dormant was getting no
attention ward around Wichita was that he was dead or incarcerated.
(15:46):
He didn't like that, so he resurfaced. The other thing
interesting about him is, oh, he was living a double life.
He was a married father of two and very involved
in the community. The BTK Killer the topic for our
True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The story is true.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
True No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So it was early on in my career here in
KFI that we announced the arrest of the BTK Killer.
And if you remember, Eric Leonard currently works for k
ANDBC over the Hill there for Channel four was one
of those people who received a letter from this guy.
BTK stood for bind torture kill, kind of the signature
(16:37):
way that this man would leave the bodies for police
to find. Victims varied first a young family and then
he transitioned to women of various ages and economic backgrounds,
and again he would go between killings for a couple
of years at a time.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
By two thousand and five, when you were new here
at KFI, myself included, b BTK was considered one of
the biggest cold cases in the entire state. One of
the things that this documentary, and it's quick one, it's
about an hour and a half, well done, kind of
takes you back to the late seventies, early eighties and
a comforting old school way of doing crime stories. The
(17:15):
way that they do it does it anyway. One of
the things that sticks out is that they didn't like
to talk about this in Kansas and Wichita. They didn't
like to own it. They did not like to talk
about it. They didn't want to admit that it was
still a cold case, that this person could be living
amongst some which he was. It just kind of went
(17:35):
by the wayside. Oh yeah, that was a bad time
kind of a deal when it was in fact a
deal that paralyzed the entire city. So two thousand and
five considered one of the biggest cold cases in the
entire state. And that's when FBI agents knock knock, knock
on the door of Carrie Rawson who had grown up
(17:57):
in Wichita. She was living in Michigan at the time,
newly married, and the FBI agent said, your dad was
the BTK killer and we've just arrested him.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So Dennis Raider is her dad's name. He pleads guilty
to ten counts first degree murder, incarcerated, serving ten consecutive
life sentences.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now can you imagine that moment that day. You're a
newly married, twenty five year old or something a similar
age as me. I think she's the same age, and
she is my father? What? Now, this is a notorious
case that you grew up with. It was in the
shadow of your hometown. This is your father who took
(18:42):
you to practices. He was the leader of the Lutheran
church in the area. Yeah, he would kind of be
particular about certain things. You knew certain things not to
do around dad, or else you'd get kind of pissed
off unnecessarily so, but doesn't every dad what my dad
the BTK what? In the documentary, and this is twenty
(19:05):
years later, she's still kind of wrestling with understanding that
her father, who was just this everyday suburban dad, would
be this monster. At the same time.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And you mentioned that there is sort of a Midwest
attitude of you keep things quiet, you have outward appearances,
and whatever turmoil may be going on on the inside
is where it stays. It stays on the inside. And
she says, I spent ten years after he was arrested
not being able to speak, not thinking I was allowed
(19:39):
to speak.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well. Her mother is a big part of that. Mom
never believed that the police had the right guy. Mom
wouldn't have it. That's not your father, that's not if
she could not understand that she had shared the same
bed with this man. In fact, after he was arrested,
she asked her daughter, will you just come sleep with
(20:00):
I can't sleep, And her daughter's like, I can't sleep
in that bed that he slept in if he did this,
and her mother, no, they got the wrong guy. They're
still not speaking the mother and the daughter over this,
which just rips apart the family. But you start second
guessing everything, you know, Oh wait, there was that one
soccer game that he was not at. Was he killing
(20:22):
somebody when he wasn't there? He was supposed to be there,
he was supposed to bring the sliced oranges. For some reason,
he wasn't there. I mean, all these little things that
you're second guessing, was your whole She says one of
these things really poignantly in the beginning of the documentary,
Were we all just a lie?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Was my family just a lie? So he could get
away with this? Was this his real life? Was this
what he wanted to do with his life? But he
just used this family as this beard like he was
our I thought he was my dad, but he was
he just playing a role as dad when this was
the true self. But you'd have to think that, you'd
(20:58):
have to have those questions.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So she describes his personality and you alluded to it,
but we'll talk about what she saw in her father
that in the moment never would have really raised any
suspicion outside of Dad has a temper a little bit,
a little bit a while, but that that now that
we know the full she knows the full context of it,
(21:21):
can put a better description, like my dad.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Would get like this if I if I took the
remote control and turned off a game. But he wasn't
out killing people. I mean, it's not red flag type behavior.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Well, and my dad, my dad was in northern California
and would have been the right age for the Zodiac Killer.
He wasn't, but you know, but he knew people who
were questioned in those cases that really were considered lead
suspects in the Zodiac case.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Fascinating and it's.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I mean just wrapping your hand well.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And the documentary gets into that too, like this girl's
school friends that would come over to the house and like,
of course it's just Dennis right, Like what.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
All right, We'll continue here with this True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Just a moment, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Hey, let's do this before we get back in.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Let's do something good before we have to put everybody
back down. We have one more pair tickets to the
Chargers game this weekend. They're playing the Indianapolis Colts on
Sunday afternoon. One more of those and and a fifty
dollars gift card to Gray's Craze Charcuterie boards and boxes.
When life hands you lemons, pair them with Brion a
Craze Craze board. I think next level charcuterie, Think premium
(22:41):
meats and cheeses and more, all hand crafted for your guests.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You can order for pickup or delivery or catering.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
At Grayscraze dot com Celebrate Everything collar number.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
What did you say? Seven?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Sounds good? Yeah, eight hundred five to zero one five
three four. That's eight hundred and five to two oh one. KFI.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Now, I don't want anybody to remember where you all
have to be in two days, because it's t minus
forty eight hours. It's forty forty one hours something like that.
Forty I don't know. Listen, I don't do math right.
Be a BJS in Huntington Beach on Beach Boulevard Thursday,
(23:23):
nine am is when the show starts. You know what
to do? You know how to mobilize. If you don't,
we'll find you and we'll bring you out of your
homes and we'll take you to b jys. It'll be weird,
and I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Make it weird. It's not going to be weird.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No. If we go to people's homes and take them
out of their beds, no, okay, it should be sunny
by then.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's a duty.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It is a duty. It should be understood that you
should be there.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Right, something like that. Duty.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Oh, Elmer, that's too easy, buddy, that's stink and thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Try Homer home.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
We're talking about aha, she said, duty.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
We're talking about this new Netflix documentary called My Father
the BTK Killer. It concentrates a lot on Carrie Rassen,
who is Dennis Raider's daughter. Dennis Raider, of course, the
admitted BTK killer is doing ten consecutive life sentences in
a prison in Kansas. And this discussion of the kind
(24:27):
of piecing together what you learn about your father after
the horrific murders, after the publicity of the arrest of
the BTK killer, the prison, the sentencing, etc. And then
the moments of quiet when you're trying to piece together
what your father was doing and how it fits into
what you remember about your childhood and your life growing up,
(24:50):
among other things. For example, he gave his daughter a
station wagon to drive around during high schoo Right, that's
probably the best thing you could do to your kid,
is given an awful, ugly car they don't want to
spend time in, so that they don't get addicted to
it the way we did when we were sixteen. But
(25:11):
now she looks back and realizes that that was a
kill mobile. Basically that he used it to kill some
of his victims and used it to transport bodies.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Imagine the first car you're driving around. How many memories
you have in that car, how many firsts, The feeling
of freedom that you have when you're driving that car
by yourself, even if it's the family car. And the
juxtaposition of your feeling of freedom with the absolute lack
of freedom of somebody who could be tied up in
(25:44):
the back there. I mean, it's wild. They found his
kill bag, you know, a bag with a gun, ropes,
other break in items stored prominently in the entryway's coke closet.
No one ever looked in the bag, I guess. In
his office they had evidence of his kills, including personal
items kept personal items to the victims, kept accessible in
(26:07):
an unlocked filing cabinet. And like you mentioned, it was
interesting how he communicated with the press and the police.
It was almost like he was lacking patients when they
couldn't find him, and he was giving him hints, and
he was giving him hints about his former crimes and
hints about his future crimes. One of the crimes that
(26:29):
he I would say, taunted with, but kind of it
just seemed like he wanted to be caught honestly. But
one of the crimes involved a woman who was rushed
from a scene of her home to the hospital. They
thought they could save her life, so no photos were
taken of the crime scene because of paramedics get there,
they see she's still breathing, her as a pulse, they
take her out of there.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So that crime scene was, you know, contaminating to save
go life. However, there were pictures of the crime scene
taken by the killer, the only pictures of the crime scene,
and those were sent to the media to kind of say, hey,
I'm your guy, and here's proof. These pictures don't exist
except for in the killer's camera.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
This is probably the part that would be the hardest.
She says she reached out to her dad in prison
and tried to continue some aspect of their relationship, said
that she was always available to talk, that she desperately
wanted and needed some of the answers about why and
how he was doing all of this. She says that
they have been in contact, but that he does not
(27:38):
answer those questions.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I just I fell asleep last night watching this
because I like.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That, SAIDs calming. Yes, sleep sounds.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Lovely, and I was dozing off right at the time
that she writes him a letter and he writes back,
and he's so happy to hear from his daughter. And
then I had that good fuzzy feeling and I went
right to sleep. It's news to full light hours, good buzzy.
I'm a broken person or other broken people are coming
(28:06):
up next John Cobot and the show and the show,
the show that he's doing, the show that he's doing.
And Conway, I mean, Conway's not broken. He's perfectly put together, hope.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
So yeah, and we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
No, well, we'll actually see you on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
We'll see you on Thursday, but just the collect.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Oh now, okay, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Grammar police over there.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
All right, have a great rainy afternoon, you too, see
you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Stay dry, blessing. You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio ap
Gary and Shannon News
Popular Podcasts
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com