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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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did he's the dark cloud back into That is not fair?
Did you create a dark cloud atmosphere while I was
stepped out.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I simply sat here and listened to Gary. Yes, and
acknowledge what he was saying. Yeah, don't say I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's the problem. When you acknowledge his darkness, then he
gets I have to project and I apologize.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Yes, it is a Friday, and Fred Rogan has joined us.
He's rarely here Friday. Yes, it is Labels Shows of
the Time a week about Freddy Freeman getting all this
fred love? Is Freddy love the dance?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No? You know what? How can you not love a
guy with teeth like that?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah? The teeth are substantial. Those are built dams.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's not since the Muppets show The Band and The
Muppet Show Doctor Teeth has I got seen a guy
with just celebrated man.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
His teeth should follow suit, right?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, But there's nobody still some scale that you could
work with there.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Probably what are you indicating the bigger you are, the
bigger everything.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You have is what you're saying, you see, joke a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm saying you.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Got to go to the Handle show for that kind
of humor. We're a little bit more intelligent through something
on the court, not me, exactly my point, young Owen
Little All.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Right, listen, I've told the story on kayle Acy, but
I need to share it with you. Yes, you do,
because this is a life lesson. So whatever period of
time you grew up in, you know, kids are different
in different generations, and the most recent generations all about
having fun. That's all that matters, and parents allow that
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there are few consequences as long as you have fun,
don't try too hard, don't get caught up in common petition.
You just gotta have fun. And if you are of
a certain age you have kids, you probably have instilled
that within your kids, and that leads us to the
kind of position we are now in the world. Anyway,
So I was coached my son Jack's basketball team. He
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was the guy that play college basketball.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Jack ps wears his Gary and Shannon t shirt. Oh really, yeah, yes, good, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So I always coach his team. We always won. We
had a travel team because I had the best kids, right,
We went around and we won. We were the Calabasas Chaos.
So my younger son, Josh two years younger, says, Dad,
I'm sick of it. You always coach Jack's team. We
need to win. I want you to coach my team,
I said, Josh. The kids are a little younger, and
I'm really not good with younger kids. I need kids
that know how to play mornings. I just I can't
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believe you'd say that to me. You won't coach my team.
Good for you, Josh, I said, I'll coach, no problem.
So anyway, we have the draft, we pick the kids.
I don't really know anybody. I'm just picking kids. I mean,
I see that guy looks kind of tall. That guy, well,
but by the time where you get to the U
don't know who these kids are.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So the last kid, and no disrespect to him, I
just didn't know Owen. All right, we'll referred to him
as little Owen. So now we have our first get
together and all the kids are out there shooting their
little kids. Some good some.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Bad Owen is mister irrelevant when.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He could have been. I meet Owen. Owen's really short,
He's a left handed shooter. If he gets the ball,
he can make it. He wears wire rim glasses and
he looks like a kid that really studies hard.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
All right, So I bring all the kids over. I said, kids,
welcome to the Gauchos. We were the Gauchos. Now listen,
I want to ask every one of you's we start,
what are we here for?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is like the Team USA thing?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The front of your jersey? Is the back of your jersey?
I want to record this for motivational Monday. Hell yeah, okay,
what are we here for? And I look at all
of them and they're all looking up and did they
say you s a?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
They did not. They just stared and to my side
stood Little Owen, and it was as if we were
watching a commercial on TV. Sure, Little Owen looked at me,
pumped his fist in the air and said, we're here
to have fun.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ok no, oh no, we're here to have fun.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And you can just see it like a commercial. A
little kid jumping up in the air.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Doesn't that just make you want to hit his parents
in the face.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, I didn't really take that up you, but I said,
this is that day. So he said that, and all
the kids looked at him, and he looked at me
and he smiled. I said, you're here to have fun, Owen.
He goes, yeah, I went, no, you're not. I said, Owen,
you're here to win. Yeah, Winners win, losers lose. Winners
have fun, losers don't. So Owen, what are you a
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winner or a loser? Because this is not going to
be fun.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Josh is like, okay, this is what dad meant by
the younger kids and why he doesn't do this.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, and he goes, I'm a winner. I said, Owen,
this is a good thing for you. You're a winner.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Now we're having fun.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now we're going to have some fun. That was my
little Owen.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Wait so wait then what happened with little Owen?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Little Owen played? Okay, we won the championship.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Did Little Owen ride the bench a lot?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Fred No, because everybody everyone had to play a specific
amount of time. And when little Owen was hot, really yeah,
I mean he could. He could shoot a little left
handed shot. Nice get him out of the corner.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Little jumper, little jumper, but I mean he.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Was little, so it was kind of like a little hoyster.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Really it would how tall is Owen?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No? Back then?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Six?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Four is?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't know what? What would be? A short kid
that would be ten years old, A shorter five two?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
A short kid at ten probably four eight? Oh? Really yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Short?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He was short.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Where is he now?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know. He's probably running Microsoft and he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
He's having fun doing it, damn right, because he's a winner.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Oh my god, I want to find him.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're going to type in little Owen.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Owen, Gauchos, Calabass, Calabas.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Let's say if you can find you'd be surprised at
who she could find. I gotta tell you our teams
that we coached. We just I was awful. I was
awful because I always wanted to win and I didn't.
Oh we were terrible. We'd blow people up by forty
five points.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh what year was this?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I can't remember?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Was he an All star?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No? No, I said, not even in the ballpark. That's
your kid.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He's twenty five years ago. All right, yeah probably then?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wow, yeah, but I mean, Gary, we'd be up our
thirty points. I put the starters back in in full
court press.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
We're keeping our foot on the gas. I did love
that you did that. It was awfully just off. I
remember thinking I had a coach that would do that, Like,
what is what? What is this guy's mental illness that
he has to win with little girls on the basketball court?
This badly?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Our JV baseball coach, Fat Jack O'Connor would tell us
to throw throw at the batters.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
We'd be up by seven and somebody tries to lay
down a bun or steel or something like that, and
he'd be like, nope, put it in his ear.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh my god, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
God, we were I would have a drill in basketball
with the older kids. I'd still around. Everybody would surround
the key and I'd put two kids in the middle
and I'd throw the ball up. You could do anything.
You couldn't slap and you couldn't kick.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I love that drill.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You couldn't. But whoever scored got to come out, and
then somebody else went in.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
He got brutal.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh yeah, it was awful. And then we would go
into games and anybody would try to drive down the lane.
It was like, oh god, I was I said, please
don't go down the middle.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Paramedic on the side. I remembers like I was a
freaking linebacker. Well you still look like a line Thank you,
Fred as always kick you right in the teeth. Great
to see you.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That was kind.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Thanks Fred aggressive.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, nice thing you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
KFI nominated for a Marconi Award. KFI is nominated for
News Talk Station of the Year, probably because it just
heard the last three segments with Fred Rogan. I don't
know how yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And if there was ever if they're still voting, that
pushed us over the top problem.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh hot, damn it did.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Texas Republicans ramping up pressure on Democratic state lawmakers who
left to go to Chicago and other Democratic areas this
week to prevent Republicans in Texas from redistricting. Republican state
legislators and the Republican attorney general there in Texas, Ken Paxton,
have set a deadline of today for the Democrats to
go back.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Packson has said.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He's going to go to court to try to remin
move them from office if they don't go back to Texas.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
All right, we do have some governor's race news. To
stay on top of it. It's going to be here
before you know it, guys. And now that Kamala Harris
is out, I mean, who are we going to have
to give us a fodder for the next handful of
years here with Gavin Newsom running for president. Elaney Kunelakis
will not be our fodder. She has dropped out of
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the California governor's race, thrown her support behind Katie Porter
because she is reading the room. Katie Porter, I believe
it was you who mentioned she was able to raise
something like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the
couple days after Kamala Harris backed out. All the money
that was just sitting in a holding pattern went for
Kamala to decide, essentially went to Katie Porter.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, obviously gives her, at least for name recognition purposes,
she has the leg up. For money purposes, she has
the leg up. I was thinking about this. We've talked
before about how Gavin Newsom of appears to have kind
of tried to boost his centrist credentials with certain things including,
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you know, claiming to be upset about the homelessness problem
and trying to figure out how he's going to claw
back some money from healthcare for illegal immigrants and things
like that to try to try to be able to
boost the centrist bona fides so that if he if
when he runs for president, he can say, but I'm
not what you think I am.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm you know, I still stand.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Up for America and farmers and you know, the downdrop
whatever whatever, whatever message he's going to say, Does any
of that translate to the governor's race. Do any of
these people, jab Or Besserah Katie Porter, Tony Adkins, Antonio Viragoso,
Stephen Klubec, Betty Yet, Tony Thurman, do any of those
people try to go for that centrist message? No, because
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it's California.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So that's the that's the dance you do to become
head of californ You have to be progressive, progressive, progressive,
drink the kool aid speak, the language, care about the
trans fights, all that, and then when you make your
shift to beyond California, that's when you have to hit
the moderate lane to win in California, you have to
be as crazy as you can be, as left as
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you possibly can be, which is why when we had
the conversation I think earlier this week about Rick Caruso
being kind of the dark horse, that just makes too
much sense to bring in a business person to put
California back on the right track, business minded, right track.
It would never work because what it would never work
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because you have to be so far left to become
the cheerleader of California.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Okay, but because of our top two primary is this
is where my thinking was. Because of the top two primary, right,
everybody is on that primary ballot, and we then take
the top two to run in the general election. That
top two prime imary process kind of flip flops the
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normal way that people would run, right. If you think
about comparing it to running for president, you have to
you have to get the you're only if you're a Democrat.
You're only appealing to Democrats, so you're only going to
be pushing that message. Whereas in a top two primary,
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you want just as many votes as you can possibly
get to advance to the next level, So that message
could be more centrist because you know there's still thirty
forty percent of registered voters are republic.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
With a centrist message in California. I'll come back to
eat you maybe, but it would be the same thing
if if you're running for president and you're you know,
you know, wildly left or right, and then you have
to turn it on for the general right and be
more central right. Which is why you're seeing Gavin shift
to the moderate ways still in his term as governor,
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so that they can't say, well, it was it was
you know, we all got whip black watching you change.
You can say no. When I was governor, I was
advocating for X, Y and Z moderate cause is the
political long. Oh, it's so dirty. We all need showers
because it's dirty dirt, that's all. There is a guy
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that well, I showered, I did. Did you that hair
has been washed? Yes, and it's just air dried, just
so you know. Okay, why did that going on? I
did that too. I air dried my hair too. If
you want to meet the guy who wants California to
become its own country, yes, okay, we'll see that when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We will get to the story about what our stocks
can tell us about America's guilty pleasures and where we're
at and what we're all into when it comes to
our vices. We'll do that coming up in the next hour.
About an hour.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Back in the Middle e Israel says today that it's
going to intensify its war with Amas by taking over
Gaza City. We don't know the timing of this necessarily,
but the AP is reporting that mediators from Egypt and
Cotter are working on a new framework that would include
the release of all hostages, both dead and alive, in
one go in return for the end of the war
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in Gaza and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Strip.
And I don't know if you saw this, but the
Sea of Galilee is now blood red. That sounds very biblical,
very biblical. Some have compared it to the ten plagues
that God inflicted on the Egyptians in Exodus. According to scripture,
the curse saw the Niles waters once they were struck
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by Moses's staff at God's command, that turned red like blood.
Of course in the Bible it was blood. But Israel's
Environmental Ministry confirmed that the transformation this month in the
Sea of Galilee is actually caused by a bloom of
green algae that turns red when a natural pigment builds
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up under intense sunlight.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We will get into the rise of our fit. Have
you heard about this? I had never heard about it
until The Real Housewives of Orange County. Emily's son, she says,
struggles with this. It's where your kid is scared of foods,
won't eat foods. It's frustrating as hell because you're trying
to get your kid to, you know, have nourishment and
it's a struggle. And apparently it is. It's happening. I
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had never heard of it before. But it's I don't know.
I don't want to call it a trend. You're just
hearing about it more, I guess. And does that fuel it?
I don't know. Have you ever heard of a guy
by the name of Xavier Mitchell. Xavier Mitchell he is
He calls himself Sir doctor Xavier ex Mitchell, PhD. He
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goes for the doctor and the PhD in the same breath. Okay.
He is running a campaign to make California its own country,
not only seced from the Union, but seceed from the
United States. He's the CEO of cale Exit. You've heard
of that before, this successionist group, and they say that
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he is facing a genuine window of opportunity, that this
largely democratic state, to our conversation earlier, has never been
more at odds with the federal government, pointing to Trump's
sending troops into LA, things like that, Christy Noam's visit
to LA, talking about ice, the ice raids, all of
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these things. Rob Bonta mobilizing the AG's office to go
after Trump legally that this is the time to strike
if we're going to leave the whole country. Cal Exit
has been active since about twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, and this guy's been the CEO since February, and
a lot of people wanted him as CEO because they
saw him as a business tycoon, a guy who knew
how to make money. However, he is less interested in
the politics of secession and more.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
In the money making aspect of all of this.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
He says he's a businessman who knows a good opportunity
when he sees it. He said, I know politics, but
I'm not looking at it as politics. For me, It's
a business transaction.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Looks like he's just looking to collect money to tell
people what they want to hear, and then use it
for his own benefit. But I could be wrong the
way that this is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
By the way, the writer who did this for Politico said,
nothing in his house is quite as it seems, And
this is after By the way, you come to the
front door and one of them is hanging off its hinges.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
He lives in Calabasas. By the way, Kardashians are his neighbors,
who will tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It is a superficial facsimile of wealth, a flawed stand in.
Good enough maybe until you take a closer look. And
the same could be said of Mitchell himself.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, about the home, he said, the lock on the
front door hangs limp and broken. Downstairs, drywall from the
water damaged ceiling falls in clumps onto the carpet. Several
glass doors leading out to the balcony are missing, replaced
by plywood boards. In February, Marcus Evans, the original founder
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of cal Exit, announced the world that his improbable campaign
had received a major boost. In January, he had filed
a ballot initiative with a Secretary of State that would
ask voters of California should move toward becoming its own country.
He said this time things would be different then the
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last time. They tried to guess this time, we're going
to recall the governor or something silly. They said that
they had a new CEO, a multimillion dollar whale, that
this was the guy, that this was the guy that
had agreed to lead call exit's business side of the
initiative and use his deep entertainment industry contacts to fundraise.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, but let's talk about those deep, those deep Hollywood connections.
Jennifer Lawrence, Paula Abdul listen, and I'm not saying anything
against those two performers, but that's not deep Hollywood to me.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
His id IMDb excuse me profile has been filled with
executive producer credits. Okay, there are press releases from his
companies touting his doctorate and celebrity partnerships. Twenty twenty three,
he posted on x that he had received a Lifetime
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Achievement award from President Biden.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So clearly someone makes money on this and continues to
do it, because they continue to make money on this
despite the fact that it is I don't even know
if you'd call it a long shot legally because the
Supreme Court made a decision one hundred and sixty years
ago that you cannot have unilateral secession in the unit
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or from the United States. It's already been decided.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
We don't even know if he owns that home that's
all broken down, but that he claims as being a
neighbor of the Kardashians. In fact, he filed for bankruptcy
a couple of years ago. Basically, the people that want
California to seceed have hired a Charlatan to manage their money.
So before you donate to caleex it because you think
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this state has lost its mind or you think the
country's lost its mind and you're part of the crazy left,
be careful who you're writ in that check too.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I just feel like I want to give out my
Venmo and just say, hey, guys, just if instead of
doing that where you know it's going to be stolen
from you, give it to me.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'll use what would you buy with people's money? Uh?
The cat to go for to go with my dog? Yeah,
you keep talking about it a National Cat Day. By
the way, we're celebrating Tron today. Tron is our show cat.
If you missed it, We're going to get a show
cat for the show, but realized that that would not
be prudent, and Janet sent us a lego cat, which
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we named Tron. Going along the lines with a mean
cat like Mega Tron, but that's been done, so shortened
it to Tron. He is starting to look a little
bit mean. When he first was born on Monday or Tuesday,
he looked really sweet, and now he's kind of taken
on the Tron vibe, right like, look at that face.
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He looks like he's doesn't You don't want to mess
with this cat, right, Yeah, I wouldn't want to mess
with that cat. Now he looks drunk, spun one of
his eyes around him. He looks not drunk. He looks evil.
He looks more evil mad. No, man, that cat. Oh
you put him back on his haunches like that. No,
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I just made him lay down a little. He looks
like he's gonna pounce down. He looks like he's ready
to pounce down. So he lists anyway. Gary loves cats,
So use the talk back feature. Tell us your favorite
cat stories today. Hit that microphop just tap it and
let us know about your cat. What your cat's name is,
what he likes to do. Tell us what you learned
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this week.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
On the Gary and Shannon Show. That's because it's Friday.
We'll do that later too.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Maybe you had a cat growing up and you miss him.
My cat growing up was named Beast. Speaking of we'll
do it. Was named Murphy because he was sniffing around
the whiskey. I think named Murphy something. And then he
became Beast because he drank it too much whiskey.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
We will do our animal round up when we come
back to cat was really fat.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
My dad only fed at ice cream. Towards the end.
I think it died of obesity.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wild. Then go through these Marconi finalists for the twenty
twenty five Marconi Radio Awards. Los Angeles is not California
is not represented. It's just Ellen k Congratulations. Allen is
up for nomination Marconi for a Major Market Personality Network
Syndicated Personality Network excuse me Network Syndicated Personality of the Year,
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and KFI is up for News Talk Station of the Year.
But that's it. I mean, Colin Coward's up there, But
I mean that's a syndicated. Interesting spased out of LA,
but it's syndicated.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So yeah, Angels Tigers this afternoon, four to ten, first
pitch from Detroit. Blue Jays come into town. They'll take
on the Dodgers. That game starts at seven ten tonight.
This is a disturbing This is a very disturbing look
at this that we'll talk about later.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That ar fid stuff where the kid. I thought we
were talking about it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Now where they're doing animal stuff now, oh right, I
think I teased this.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We could do whatever you like. I mean, I don't care.
We do whatever you want. But if people were waiting
to hear about it. Our food.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, this is a story about Laura, not her real name, Mark,
her husband, and their daughter, Amelia. Amelia has had some
food issues. Among other things, she went to summer camp
for example, she had me picky kid in terms of eating.
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She went to summer camp one time and lunch lady
yelled at her that she couldn't leave until all of
her food was gone off of her plate.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
At the time, Amelia, she was an only child, but
super outgoing when they're on the playground, no problem like
going up to a new kid starting a game that
kind of a kid.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Then she became sensitive, very sensitive. She would tense up
when people talk sternly to her. A substitute teacher shouted
in gymnastics class and made her cry. Her clothes would
bother her. She didn't want to wear dresses. Sometimes she
complained that the foods were sorry, the clothes were itchy
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or scratchy, or too tight, or I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Wear it, or it hurts. Just frame of reference. When
she went to that camp, I got yelled at about
the food. She was six. The ensuing issues happened when
she was six and seven ish.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Now Mom and dad didn't quite know what all of
this was coming from. They had her evaluated for autism.
Doctor said it was actually she was hyper sensitive, but
that whatever behavior was going on may have been rooted
in anxiety, and studies have suggested that anxiety the big
A can run in families, and Laura had been diagnosed
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years earlier with anxiety. She as a child had an
outsized fear of death, and in adulthood she tended to
operate as though everything is a fire drill. That's Mom
saying she would operate as if everything was a fire drill,
and if it took too long, for example, for Amelia
to get her shoes on or eat breakfast. Mom would
(26:01):
freak out, worried that Amelia was gonna be late for school,
or that she was gonna get in trouble for being
truant or whatever. And she can't figure out what's going
on with this kid and why the kid is freaking out.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't know. I grew up in a very rushed house.
Everything was always a rush. My mom's still that way.
I mean, everything is a rush. Okay, we're leaving in
five minutes. Okay, everything's on time, or you gotta be
there five minutes early. And that's just like, that's just
that's how she grew up. You'd go shopping with Grandma
and everything was running through the market or running through
the department store or whatever. Very I mean, I think
(26:35):
that's a trait that can like run in families. It
just rushed. I don't think it's anxiety as much as
it's just that's what you're used to. All right, hurry up,
we gotta go get in the car kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Well, this thing that's going on with Amelia got so
bad that at one point she thought she was choking.
She had just recently seen an episode of The Babysitters
Club in which one of the characters actually chokes on
a chicken nugget.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She thought she was choking.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
There was no obstruction because obviously she could breathe to
tell them she was choking, but then kind of shied
away from solid foods. She went through a period where
she was only drinking chocolate, milk or juice, and she
was losing weight and it was dangerous.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, Mom's thinking mother nature is going to kick in here, right,
the kid's gonna have to eat. That's what you would think, Like,
the kid's gonna have to eat. It's you know, they'll
get over it. Kind of a thing. They took her
to the doctor. She suddenly had an inability to swallow
because she wasn't eating solid foods. Pediatrician appointments, the whole bit,
ear nose and throat specialists. Maybe she's got a problematic esophagus,
(27:38):
all of these things. But she had stopped eating normally
and at this point now she's malnourished and parents say
that she is increasingly agitated, screaming, cursing, throwing things. Dad
says she was turning into an animal. We did not
recognize our own, our own daughter.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Her health began so deterior she had stopped eating normally.
She's down to thirty seven pounds at the age of six.
So mom and dad eventually take her to an emergency
room and the doctors showed that sorry. The blood tests
showed doctors that she was in danger of heart failure,
so they transferred to a hospital with a good pediatrics department.
(28:18):
They were able to insert a feeding tube and allow
her to get the nutrients that she needed without the
actual process of swallowing. But they sat down with mom
and dad and gave them a name for what they
said Amelia may have been experiencing, and they referred to
it as ARFID.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Avoidant restrictive food intake disorder, a psychiatric diagnosis emerging in childhood.
Often can range from eating a very limited number of
foods to refusing food altogether. Just like everybody else, Mark
and Laura had never heard of ARFID. It's a fairly
new addition, they say, to the modern parenting lexicon, a
behavior far more severe than pickiness. It's an eating disorder
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provoked not by the desire to change your body, but
by fear of food itself. It has become trendy. It
is a name that's circulating, and playground school, NURF is
a nurse's office. It's on Reddit, it's in Facebook groups,
it's showing up on TikTok and Instagram. And sometimes I
know I'm this way. Sometimes I'm not saying it's not
a real thing, but sometimes you can be influenced psychologically.
(29:22):
And the mind is an incredible thing. It is so powerful,
and sometimes when you hear about something and you keep
hearing about it, it can become a thing.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
How many times did we give ourselves COVID symptoms during COVID? Right,
every time we talk about it, or there'd be a
new symptom that was starting to pop up, and be like, yeah,
I kind of feel I have testicular pain, right, And
you even said that I did.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It concerns me.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't want to say it bothers me because they
sound arrogant if I say that it concerns me that
mom also knows she has dealt with anxiety in her
life and and continues to deal with anxiety, perhaps in
front of her daughter. Now, I'm not saying, I'm not
(30:10):
saying that's the explanation. I'm not saying that it's mom's
fault or anything. But there has to be a there
has to be an acknowledgment that the things that you do,
the way you are, all of those things can impact
your kids.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, especially if kids an EmPATH, you know, that kind
of soaks up the energy around them. And this in particular,
this child is an only child, so kind of the
only feedback you're getting the feedback loop is parents child
parents child. Kind of a thing without the absence of siblings,
and it's awful. And the thing about anxiety is the
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more you talk about it, the more you feel it,
the more you have it. It's just it's just one
of those things.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well that's why we don't say it very much. I mean,
you were joking yesterday about it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Because it's an over us term. It's any any uncomfortability now,
I feel like, is labeled as anxiety, and that's not
what it is, and it's not helping anybody. If you're uncomfortable,
if you're nervous about something, if you're excited about something,
if you're shared scared, it's not all anxiety. It's actually
very different emotions for different reasons, and it's not all bad.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And you should have some roadmap for how to get
through those types of situations that you find yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And I wish yours was not taking off your pants
and doing a jig, but that's where we're at, and
I'm happy to that you're that you're not suffering from anything.
You don't get to dictate. You could how I deal
with my feelings. I know, I know, But if you
could just leave the room before you dealt with your feelings,
I appreciate it. We'll do some what for be in
a safe space. We come back to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
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on demand on the iHeartRadio app. No, he is what
did he's the dark cloud back into That is not fair?
Did you create a dark cloud atmosphere while I was
stepped out.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I simply sat here and listened to Gary. Yes, and
acknowledge what he was saying. Yeah, don't say I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's the problem. When you acknowledge his darkness, then he
gets I have to project and I apologize.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, it is a Friday, and Fred Rogan has joined us.
He's rarely here Friday. Yes, it is Labels Shows of
the Time a week about Freddy Freeman getting all this
fred love? Is Freddy love the dance?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No? You know what? How can you not love a
guy with teeth like that?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah? The teeth are substantial. Those are built dams.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's not since the Muppets show The Band and The
Muppet Show Doctor Teeth has I got seen a guy
with just celebrated man.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
His teeth should follow suit, right?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, But there's nobody still some scale that you could
work with there.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Probably what are you indicating the bigger you are, the
bigger everything.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You have is what you're saying, you see, joke a joke.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm saying you.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Got to go to the Handle show for that kind
of humor. We're a little bit more intelligent through something
on the court, not me, exactly my point, young Owen
Little All.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Right, listen, I've told the story on kayle Acy, but
I need to share it with you. Yes, you do,
because this is a life lesson. So whatever period of
time you grew up in, you know, kids are different
in different generations, and the most recent generations all about
having fun. That's all that matters, and parents allow that
(01:53):
there are few consequences as long as you have fun,
don't try too hard, don't get caught up in common petition.
You just gotta have fun. And if you are of
a certain age you have kids, you probably have instilled
that within your kids, and that leads us to the
kind of position we are now in the world. Anyway,
So I was coached my son Jack's basketball team. He
(02:15):
was the guy that play college basketball.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Jack ps wears his Gary and Shannon t shirt. Oh really, yeah, yes, good, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So I always coach his team. We always won. We
had a travel team because I had the best kids, right,
We went around and we won. We were the Calabasas Chaos.
So my younger son, Josh two years younger, says, Dad,
I'm sick of it. You always coach Jack's team. We
need to win. I want you to coach my team,
I said, Josh. The kids are a little younger, and
I'm really not good with younger kids. I need kids
that know how to play mornings. I just I can't
(02:44):
believe you'd say that to me. You won't coach my team.
Good for you, Josh, I said, I'll coach, no problem.
So anyway, we have the draft, we pick the kids.
I don't really know anybody. I'm just picking kids. I mean,
I see that guy looks kind of tall. That guy, well,
but by the time where you get to the U
don't know who these kids are.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So the last kid, and no disrespect to him, I
just didn't know Owen. All right, we'll referred to him
as little Owen. So now we have our first get
together and all the kids are out there shooting their
little kids. Some good some.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Bad Owen is mister irrelevant when.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He could have been. I meet Owen. Owen's really short,
He's a left handed shooter. If he gets the ball,
he can make it. He wears wire rim glasses and
he looks like a kid that really studies hard.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
All right, So I bring all the kids over. I said, kids,
welcome to the Gauchos. We were the Gauchos. Now listen,
I want to ask every one of you's we start,
what are we here for?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is like the Team USA thing?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The front of your jersey? Is the back of your jersey?
I want to record this for motivational Monday. Hell yeah, okay,
what are we here for? And I look at all
of them and they're all looking up and did they
say you s a?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
They did not. They just stared and to my side
stood Little Owen, and it was as if we were
watching a commercial on TV. Sure, Little Owen looked at me,
pumped his fist in the air and said, we're here
to have fun.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ok no, oh no, we're here to have fun.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And you can just see it like a commercial. A
little kid jumping up in the air.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Doesn't that just make you want to hit his parents
in the face.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, I didn't really take that up you, but I said,
this is that day. So he said that, and all
the kids looked at him, and he looked at me
and he smiled. I said, you're here to have fun, Owen.
He goes, yeah, I went, no, you're not. I said, Owen,
you're here to win. Yeah, Winners win, losers lose. Winners
have fun, losers don't. So Owen, what are you a
(04:50):
winner or a loser? Because this is not going to
be fun.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Josh is like, okay, this is what dad meant by
the younger kids and why he doesn't do this.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, and he goes, I'm a winner. I said, Owen,
this is a good thing for you. You're a winner.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Now we're having fun.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Now we're going to have some fun. That was my
little Owen.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Wait so wait then what happened with little Owen?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Little Owen played? Okay, we won the championship.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Did Little Owen ride the bench a lot?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Fred No, because everybody everyone had to play a specific
amount of time. And when little Owen was hot, really yeah,
I mean he could. He could shoot a little left
handed shot. Nice get him out of the corner.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Little jumper, little jumper, but I mean he.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Was little, so it was kind of like a little hoyster.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Really it would how tall is Owen?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No? Back then?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Six?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Four is?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't know what? What would be? A short kid
that would be ten years old, A shorter five two?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
A short kid at ten probably four eight? Oh? Really yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Short?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He was short.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Where is he now?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know. He's probably running Microsoft and he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
He's having fun doing it, damn right, because he's a winner.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Oh my god, I want to find him.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're going to type in little Owen.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Owen, Gauchos, Calabass, Calabas.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Let's say if you can find you'd be surprised at
who she could find. I gotta tell you our teams
that we coached. We just I was awful. I was
awful because I always wanted to win and I didn't.
Oh we were terrible. We'd blow people up by forty
five points.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh what year was this?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I can't remember?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Was he an All star?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No? No, I said, not even in the ballpark. That's
your kid.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He's twenty five years ago. All right, yeah probably then?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Wow, yeah, but I mean, Gary, we'd be up our
thirty points. I put the starters back in in full
court press.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
We're keeping our foot on the gas. I did love
that you did that. It was awfully just off. I
remember thinking I had a coach that would do that, Like,
what is what? What is this guy's mental illness that
he has to win with little girls on the basketball court?
This badly?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Our JV baseball coach, Fat Jack O'Connor would tell us
to throw throw at the batters.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
We'd be up by seven and somebody tries to lay
down a bun or steel or something like that, and
he'd be like, nope, put it in his ear.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh my god, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
God, we were I would have a drill in basketball
with the older kids. I'd still around. Everybody would surround
the key and I'd put two kids in the middle
and I'd throw the ball up. You could do anything.
You couldn't slap and you couldn't kick.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I love that drill.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You couldn't. But whoever scored got to come out, and
then somebody else went in.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
He got brutal.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh yeah, it was awful. And then we would go
into games and anybody would try to drive down the lane.
It was like, oh god, I was I said, please
don't go down the middle.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Paramedic on the side. I remembers like I was a
freaking linebacker. Well you still look like a line Thank you,
Fred as always kick you right in the teeth. Great
to see you.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That was kind.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Thanks Fred aggressive.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, nice thing you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
KFI nominated for a Marconi Award. KFI is nominated for
News Talk Station of the Year, probably because it just
heard the last three segments with Fred Rogan. I don't
know how yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And if there was ever if they're still voting, that
pushed us over the top problem.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh hot, damn it did.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Texas Republicans ramping up pressure on Democratic state lawmakers who
left to go to Chicago and other Democratic areas this
week to prevent Republicans in Texas from redistricting. Republican state
legislators and the Republican attorney general there in Texas, Ken Paxton,
have set a deadline of today for the Democrats to
go back.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Packson has said.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He's going to go to court to try to remin
move them from office if they don't go back to Texas.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
All right, we do have some governor's race news. To
stay on top of it. It's going to be here
before you know it, guys. And now that Kamala Harris
is out, I mean, who are we going to have
to give us a fodder for the next handful of
years here with Gavin Newsom running for president. Elaney Kunelakis
will not be our fodder. She has dropped out of
(09:24):
the California governor's race, thrown her support behind Katie Porter
because she is reading the room. Katie Porter, I believe
it was you who mentioned she was able to raise
something like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the
couple days after Kamala Harris backed out. All the money
that was just sitting in a holding pattern went for
Kamala to decide, essentially went to Katie Porter.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, obviously gives her, at least for name recognition purposes,
she has the leg up. For money purposes, she has
the leg up. I was thinking about this. We've talked
before about how Gavin Newsom of appears to have kind
of tried to boost his centrist credentials with certain things including,
(10:08):
you know, claiming to be upset about the homelessness problem
and trying to figure out how he's going to claw
back some money from healthcare for illegal immigrants and things
like that to try to try to be able to
boost the centrist bona fides so that if he if
when he runs for president, he can say, but I'm
not what you think I am.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm you know, I still stand.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Up for America and farmers and you know, the downdrop
whatever whatever, whatever message he's going to say, Does any
of that translate to the governor's race. Do any of
these people, jab Or Besserah Katie Porter, Tony Adkins, Antonio Viragoso,
Stephen Klubec, Betty Yet, Tony Thurman, do any of those
people try to go for that centrist message? No, because
(10:55):
it's California.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So that's the that's the dance you do to become
head of californ You have to be progressive, progressive, progressive,
drink the kool aid speak, the language, care about the
trans fights, all that, and then when you make your
shift to beyond California, that's when you have to hit
the moderate lane to win in California, you have to
be as crazy as you can be, as left as
(11:18):
you possibly can be, which is why when we had
the conversation I think earlier this week about Rick Caruso
being kind of the dark horse, that just makes too
much sense to bring in a business person to put
California back on the right track, business minded, right track.
It would never work because what it would never work
(11:38):
because you have to be so far left to become
the cheerleader of California.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Okay, but because of our top two primary is this
is where my thinking was. Because of the top two primary, right,
everybody is on that primary ballot, and we then take
the top two to run in the general election. That
top two prime imary process kind of flip flops the
(12:02):
normal way that people would run, right. If you think
about comparing it to running for president, you have to
you have to get the you're only if you're a Democrat.
You're only appealing to Democrats, so you're only going to
be pushing that message. Whereas in a top two primary,
(12:23):
you want just as many votes as you can possibly
get to advance to the next level, So that message
could be more centrist because you know there's still thirty
forty percent of registered voters are republic.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
With a centrist message in California. I'll come back to
eat you maybe, but it would be the same thing
if if you're running for president and you're you know,
you know, wildly left or right, and then you have
to turn it on for the general right and be
more central right. Which is why you're seeing Gavin shift
to the moderate ways still in his term as governor,
(12:56):
so that they can't say, well, it was it was
you know, we all got whip black watching you change.
You can say no. When I was governor, I was
advocating for X, Y and Z moderate cause is the
political long. Oh, it's so dirty. We all need showers
because it's dirty dirt, that's all. There is a guy
(13:18):
that well, I showered, I did. Did you that hair
has been washed? Yes, and it's just air dried, just
so you know. Okay, why did that going on? I
did that too. I air dried my hair too. If
you want to meet the guy who wants California to
become its own country, yes, okay, we'll see that when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We will get to the story about what our stocks
can tell us about America's guilty pleasures and where we're
at and what we're all into when it comes to
our vices. We'll do that coming up in the next hour.
About an hour.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Back in the Middle e Israel says today that it's
going to intensify its war with Amas by taking over
Gaza City. We don't know the timing of this necessarily,
but the AP is reporting that mediators from Egypt and
Cotter are working on a new framework that would include
the release of all hostages, both dead and alive, in
one go in return for the end of the war
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in Gaza and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Strip.
And I don't know if you saw this, but the
Sea of Galilee is now blood red. That sounds very biblical,
very biblical. Some have compared it to the ten plagues
that God inflicted on the Egyptians in Exodus. According to scripture,
the curse saw the Niles waters once they were struck
(14:42):
by Moses's staff at God's command, that turned red like blood.
Of course in the Bible it was blood. But Israel's
Environmental Ministry confirmed that the transformation this month in the
Sea of Galilee is actually caused by a bloom of
green algae that turns red when a natural pigment builds
(15:03):
up under intense sunlight.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We will get into the rise of our fit. Have
you heard about this? I had never heard about it
until The Real Housewives of Orange County. Emily's son, she says,
struggles with this. It's where your kid is scared of foods,
won't eat foods. It's frustrating as hell because you're trying
to get your kid to, you know, have nourishment and
it's a struggle. And apparently it is. It's happening. I
(15:28):
had never heard of it before. But it's I don't know.
I don't want to call it a trend. You're just
hearing about it more, I guess. And does that fuel it?
I don't know. Have you ever heard of a guy
by the name of Xavier Mitchell. Xavier Mitchell he is
He calls himself Sir doctor Xavier ex Mitchell, PhD. He
(15:51):
goes for the doctor and the PhD in the same breath. Okay.
He is running a campaign to make California its own country,
not only seced from the Union, but seceed from the
United States. He's the CEO of cale Exit. You've heard
of that before, this successionist group, and they say that
(16:15):
he is facing a genuine window of opportunity, that this
largely democratic state, to our conversation earlier, has never been
more at odds with the federal government, pointing to Trump's
sending troops into LA, things like that, Christy Noam's visit
to LA, talking about ice, the ice raids, all of
(16:36):
these things. Rob Bonta mobilizing the AG's office to go
after Trump legally that this is the time to strike
if we're going to leave the whole country. Cal Exit
has been active since about twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, and this guy's been the CEO since February, and
a lot of people wanted him as CEO because they
saw him as a business tycoon, a guy who knew
how to make money. However, he is less interested in
the politics of secession and more.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
In the money making aspect of all of this.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
He says he's a businessman who knows a good opportunity
when he sees it. He said, I know politics, but
I'm not looking at it as politics. For me, It's
a business transaction.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Looks like he's just looking to collect money to tell
people what they want to hear, and then use it
for his own benefit. But I could be wrong the
way that this is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
By the way, the writer who did this for Politico said,
nothing in his house is quite as it seems, And
this is after By the way, you come to the
front door and one of them is hanging off its hinges.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
He lives in Calabasas. By the way, Kardashians are his neighbors,
who will tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It is a superficial facsimile of wealth, a flawed stand in.
Good enough maybe until you take a closer look. And
the same could be said of Mitchell himself.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, about the home, he said, the lock on the
front door hangs limp and broken. Downstairs, drywall from the
water damaged ceiling falls in clumps onto the carpet. Several
glass doors leading out to the balcony are missing, replaced
by plywood boards. In February, Marcus Evans, the original founder
(18:23):
of cal Exit, announced the world that his improbable campaign
had received a major boost. In January, he had filed
a ballot initiative with a Secretary of State that would
ask voters of California should move toward becoming its own country.
He said this time things would be different then the
(18:43):
last time. They tried to guess this time, we're going
to recall the governor or something silly. They said that
they had a new CEO, a multimillion dollar whale, that
this was the guy, that this was the guy that
had agreed to lead call exit's business side of the
initiative and use his deep entertainment industry contacts to fundraise.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Okay, but let's talk about those deep, those deep Hollywood connections.
Jennifer Lawrence, Paula Abdul listen, and I'm not saying anything
against those two performers, but that's not deep Hollywood to me.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
His id IMDb excuse me profile has been filled with
executive producer credits. Okay, there are press releases from his
companies touting his doctorate and celebrity partnerships. Twenty twenty three,
he posted on x that he had received a Lifetime
(19:45):
Achievement award from President Biden.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So clearly someone makes money on this and continues to
do it, because they continue to make money on this
despite the fact that it is I don't even know
if you'd call it a long shot legally because the
Supreme Court made a decision one hundred and sixty years
ago that you cannot have unilateral secession in the unit
(20:14):
or from the United States. It's already been decided.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
We don't even know if he owns that home that's
all broken down, but that he claims as being a
neighbor of the Kardashians. In fact, he filed for bankruptcy
a couple of years ago. Basically, the people that want
California to seceed have hired a Charlatan to manage their money.
So before you donate to caleex it because you think
(20:42):
this state has lost its mind or you think the
country's lost its mind and you're part of the crazy left,
be careful who you're writ in that check too.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I just feel like I want to give out my
Venmo and just say, hey, guys, just if instead of
doing that where you know it's going to be stolen
from you, give it to me.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'll use what would you buy with people's money? Uh?
The cat to go for to go with my dog? Yeah,
you keep talking about it a National Cat Day. By
the way, we're celebrating Tron today. Tron is our show cat.
If you missed it, We're going to get a show
cat for the show, but realized that that would not
be prudent, and Janet sent us a lego cat, which
(21:23):
we named Tron. Going along the lines with a mean
cat like Mega Tron, but that's been done, so shortened
it to Tron. He is starting to look a little
bit mean. When he first was born on Monday or Tuesday,
he looked really sweet, and now he's kind of taken
on the Tron vibe, right like, look at that face.
(21:44):
He looks like he's doesn't You don't want to mess
with this cat, right, Yeah, I wouldn't want to mess
with that cat. Now he looks drunk, spun one of
his eyes around him. He looks not drunk. He looks evil.
He looks more evil mad. No, man, that cat. Oh
you put him back on his haunches like that. No,
(22:05):
I just made him lay down a little. He looks
like he's gonna pounce down. He looks like he's ready
to pounce down. So he lists anyway. Gary loves cats,
So use the talk back feature. Tell us your favorite
cat stories today. Hit that microphop just tap it and
let us know about your cat. What your cat's name is,
what he likes to do. Tell us what you learned
(22:25):
this week.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
On the Gary and Shannon Show. That's because it's Friday.
We'll do that later too.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Maybe you had a cat growing up and you miss him.
My cat growing up was named Beast. Speaking of we'll
do it. Was named Murphy because he was sniffing around
the whiskey. I think named Murphy something. And then he
became Beast because he drank it too much whiskey.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
We will do our animal round up when we come
back to cat was really fat.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
My dad only fed at ice cream. Towards the end.
I think it died of obesity.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Am six four.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wild. Then go through these Marconi finalists for the twenty
twenty five Marconi Radio Awards. Los Angeles is not California
is not represented. It's just Ellen k Congratulations. Allen is
up for nomination Marconi for a Major Market Personality Network
Syndicated Personality Network excuse me Network Syndicated Personality of the Year,
(23:24):
and KFI is up for News Talk Station of the Year.
But that's it. I mean, Colin Coward's up there, But
I mean that's a syndicated. Interesting spased out of LA,
but it's syndicated.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So yeah, Angels Tigers this afternoon, four to ten, first
pitch from Detroit. Blue Jays come into town. They'll take
on the Dodgers. That game starts at seven ten tonight.
This is a disturbing This is a very disturbing look
at this that we'll talk about later.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That ar fid stuff where the kid. I thought we
were talking about it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Now where they're doing animal stuff now, oh right, I
think I teased this.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We could do whatever you like. I mean, I don't care.
We do whatever you want. But if people were waiting
to hear about it. Our food.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, this is a story about Laura, not her real name, Mark,
her husband, and their daughter, Amelia. Amelia has had some
food issues. Among other things, she went to summer camp
for example, she had me picky kid in terms of eating.
(24:30):
She went to summer camp one time and lunch lady
yelled at her that she couldn't leave until all of
her food was gone off of her plate.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
At the time, Amelia, she was an only child, but
super outgoing when they're on the playground, no problem like
going up to a new kid starting a game that
kind of a kid.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Then she became sensitive, very sensitive. She would tense up
when people talk sternly to her. A substitute teacher shouted
in gymnastics class and made her cry. Her clothes would
bother her. She didn't want to wear dresses. Sometimes she
complained that the foods were sorry, the clothes were itchy
(25:06):
or scratchy, or too tight, or I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Wear it, or it hurts. Just frame of reference. When
she went to that camp, I got yelled at about
the food. She was six. The ensuing issues happened when
she was six and seven ish.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Now Mom and dad didn't quite know what all of
this was coming from. They had her evaluated for autism.
Doctor said it was actually she was hyper sensitive, but
that whatever behavior was going on may have been rooted
in anxiety, and studies have suggested that anxiety the big
A can run in families, and Laura had been diagnosed
(25:41):
years earlier with anxiety. She as a child had an
outsized fear of death, and in adulthood she tended to
operate as though everything is a fire drill. That's Mom
saying she would operate as if everything was a fire drill,
and if it took too long, for example, for Amelia
to get her shoes on or eat breakfast. Mom would
(26:01):
freak out, worried that Amelia was gonna be late for school,
or that she was gonna get in trouble for being
truant or whatever. And she can't figure out what's going
on with this kid and why the kid is freaking out.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't know. I grew up in a very rushed house.
Everything was always a rush. My mom's still that way.
I mean, everything is a rush. Okay, we're leaving in
five minutes. Okay, everything's on time, or you gotta be
there five minutes early. And that's just like, that's just
that's how she grew up. You'd go shopping with Grandma
and everything was running through the market or running through
the department store or whatever. Very I mean, I think
(26:35):
that's a trait that can like run in families. It
just rushed. I don't think it's anxiety as much as
it's just that's what you're used to. All right, hurry up,
we gotta go get in the car kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Well, this thing that's going on with Amelia got so
bad that at one point she thought she was choking.
She had just recently seen an episode of The Babysitters
Club in which one of the characters actually chokes on
a chicken nugget.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She thought she was choking.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
There was no obstruction because obviously she could breathe to
tell them she was choking, but then kind of shied
away from solid foods. She went through a period where
she was only drinking chocolate, milk or juice, and she
was losing weight and it was dangerous.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, Mom's thinking mother nature is going to kick in here, right,
the kid's gonna have to eat. That's what you would think, Like,
the kid's gonna have to eat. It's you know, they'll
get over it. Kind of a thing. They took her
to the doctor. She suddenly had an inability to swallow
because she wasn't eating solid foods. Pediatrician appointments, the whole bit,
ear nose and throat specialists. Maybe she's got a problematic esophagus,
(27:38):
all of these things. But she had stopped eating normally
and at this point now she's malnourished and parents say
that she is increasingly agitated, screaming, cursing, throwing things. Dad
says she was turning into an animal. We did not
recognize our own, our own daughter.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Her health began so deterior she had stopped eating normally.
She's down to thirty seven pounds at the age of six.
So mom and dad eventually take her to an emergency
room and the doctors showed that sorry. The blood tests
showed doctors that she was in danger of heart failure,
so they transferred to a hospital with a good pediatrics department.
(28:18):
They were able to insert a feeding tube and allow
her to get the nutrients that she needed without the
actual process of swallowing. But they sat down with mom
and dad and gave them a name for what they
said Amelia may have been experiencing, and they referred to
it as ARFID.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Avoidant restrictive food intake disorder, a psychiatric diagnosis emerging in childhood.
Often can range from eating a very limited number of
foods to refusing food altogether. Just like everybody else, Mark
and Laura had never heard of ARFID. It's a fairly
new addition, they say, to the modern parenting lexicon, a
behavior far more severe than pickiness. It's an eating disorder
(28:59):
provoked not by the desire to change your body, but
by fear of food itself. It has become trendy. It
is a name that's circulating, and playground school, NURF is
a nurse's office. It's on Reddit, it's in Facebook groups,
it's showing up on TikTok and Instagram. And sometimes I
know I'm this way. Sometimes I'm not saying it's not
a real thing, but sometimes you can be influenced psychologically.
(29:22):
And the mind is an incredible thing. It is so powerful,
and sometimes when you hear about something and you keep
hearing about it, it can become a thing.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
How many times did we give ourselves COVID symptoms during COVID? Right,
every time we talk about it, or there'd be a
new symptom that was starting to pop up, and be like, yeah,
I kind of feel I have testicular pain, right, And
you even said that I did.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It concerns me.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't want to say it bothers me because they
sound arrogant if I say that it concerns me that
mom also knows she has dealt with anxiety in her
life and and continues to deal with anxiety, perhaps in
front of her daughter. Now, I'm not saying, I'm not
(30:10):
saying that's the explanation. I'm not saying that it's mom's
fault or anything. But there has to be a there
has to be an acknowledgment that the things that you do,
the way you are, all of those things can impact
your kids.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, especially if kids an EmPATH, you know, that kind
of soaks up the energy around them. And this in particular,
this child is an only child, so kind of the
only feedback you're getting the feedback loop is parents child
parents child. Kind of a thing without the absence of siblings,
and it's awful. And the thing about anxiety is the
(30:47):
more you talk about it, the more you feel it,
the more you have it. It's just it's just one
of those things.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well that's why we don't say it very much. I mean,
you were joking yesterday about it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Because it's an over us term. It's any any uncomfortability now,
I feel like, is labeled as anxiety, and that's not
what it is, and it's not helping anybody. If you're uncomfortable,
if you're nervous about something, if you're excited about something,
if you're shared scared, it's not all anxiety. It's actually
very different emotions for different reasons, and it's not all bad.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And you should have some roadmap for how to get
through those types of situations that you find yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
And I wish yours was not taking off your pants
and doing a jig, but that's where we're at, and
I'm happy to that you're that you're not suffering from anything.
You don't get to dictate. You could how I deal
with my feelings. I know, I know, But if you
could just leave the room before you dealt with your feelings,
I appreciate it. We'll do some what for be in
a safe space. We come back to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You
can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
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