August 12, 2025 • 32 mins
#WHATSHAPPENING – CDC shooter died by suicide and fired nearly 200 rounds at headquarters. #TCT – Amy Bradley case hinges on 'somebody remembering' as investigators hunt for new leads 27 years later.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
You didn't even warn me today.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You didn't see you coming. You are so hyped up
on your new coffee bags.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I was hyped up on my new coffee on you
having the pansy being your birth.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Flower, which it's not. I decided it's not.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I was hyped up on on on the aliens coming
with their probe and ending all of us and dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You also suck down four packs of Pez two two packs?
Is there more left than the pez?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's loaded with lemon right now, because I think that. Yeah,
here's a weird story.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The average American household is more than one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Mortgages.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Also because mortgages account for more than two thirds of that,
because sometimes it makes sense to not pay off your
mortgage if you got a great interest rate.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Of people still do form.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
A couple of years ago, wallet hub said that the
nation's total household debt reached eighteen point three nine trillion
second quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Of this year.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
When you break that down, it's about one hundred and
fifty two thousand each. The inflation adjusted record for average
household debt, though, is not that much higher. It's one
hundred and sixty six thousand that was recorded during the
fourth quarter of two thousand and eight. Of course, the
markets were in turmoil then, so that's just all just
pay your bills.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What else is going on?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Time four? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well? The man who opened fire at the CDC headquarters
last week, killing a police officer did die by suicide.
According to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, thirty year old
Patrick Joseph White died from suicide self inflicted gunshot. Woond
fired nearly two hundred rounds of AMMO.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
At the headquarters.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Authorities recovered five guns or five hundred shell casings from
the same The five weapons belonged to his father and
were securely stored before the shooter forced his way into
the safe that contained them.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
People are upset at Health and Human Service to Secretary
RFK Junior because they said he also has denounced the
COVID nineteen vaccines, which is a.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Strange twist in logic. Why would.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Why would RFK Junior be the one that you'd be
mad at if he oversees the buildings that were shot at.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
As I understand it. Not like you can ascribe any
sort of logic to something like this. But this was
a guy who had problems with the COVID vaccination.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Right he claims that they were the ones.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh so they're saying that RFK Junior's anti vax status
propelled this guy to shoot up the building and it
added gasoline to the fire.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That was this guy is. I guess what their thought process,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
He said the COVID nineteen vaccine made him depressed and suicidal.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Neighbors had said that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
He also apparently left some documentation that expressed his discontent
with the COVID vaccines. Guy wanted for murder in Washington
State now could be here in southern California. They found
his car in Calabasas, but he said he stabbed two people,
seventy three year old and the sister in law, sixty
four year old Don Peters.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
The sixty four year old, she's the one who died.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This happened last Tuesday, just before noon at the family's.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Home in Longview.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Long Longview's right across the river from Portland. I believe
so it's southern Washington State. The captain of the Longview
Police Department said, this is horrific. As far as we
can tell, he was acquainted with them through an old
family connection and may have been doing some handyman work
at the house for them over the last few months,
so that's how he knew of them before he stabbed them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I love a meteor shower, and it's finally time to
watch one of the best meteor showers of the year,
the brilliant display known as the Perseods. Perseods, you're so knowledgeable,
wise and practical, practical, I don't even have my comin.
The Percied meteor shower is known for producing dozens of
(04:19):
bright meteors that have that leave long streaks in their wake.
And it's set to peak at four pm Eastern Time Tuesday,
so in about an hour hour.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
In previous years, this thing would produce about forty to
fifty visible meteors an hour.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
How are you supposed to see it in the daylight? Uh,
you're not well?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Then?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What the hell is the point?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The Persed meteor shower will peak Friday night into Saturday morning,
a long streaks set the PC media shower set to
peak at four pm Tuesday. The Persied meteor shower peaks
Friday night. This is one story, and I'm reading two
different versions of it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's ai.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You can see it between dusk and moon rise of
the evening of August twelfth. Tonight, there's gonna be a
one hour gap before the moon rises, so that's when
they see it.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So tonight, Tonight's tonight, guys, let's all get out there.
We're gonna find some community together looking at the perseedge.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
For us, it's after eleven and before three like after
eleven at night, before three am is when we are
expected to be able to see it well, depending on
where you are and what kind of light pollution you
have around there. Dollars Perseus. He was the guy. He
was that one guy, Greek.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Hero obviously, But what did he do? Oh, here's a
naked picture of my god. He's got definition in his abs. God,
look at this, Look at this, Look at the muscle, definition.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Cut off the head of Medusa's Damn right, I freezed
a titan, I think, or the Kraken.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You are good? Did you learn this from that show?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I really like Greek mythology.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You did it start with Percy Jackson the books.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Uh no, that was Uh, Percy Jackson came after that.
I mean after you fell in love exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, Perseus, Wow, that's pretty cool. That's not an actual
picture of him. I'm not still looking at the picture.
I'm reading his credentials.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Uh huh, you're reading his abs.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I mean they're substantial, they're not. What do you
mean they're not?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
You don't know what he looked like.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I'm looking at the statue of actual Perseus right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Dollar store food shopping is not making you fat. Dollar
store food shopping is not making you fat. Researchers from
Tufts University in Boston analyzed more than a decade of
household food purchasing data between twenty eight and twenty twenty,
and they said that dollar stores now account for about
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six and a half percent of household calories, double what
they were back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He saved his wife from a sea monster.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
They said that there are still fresh foods like fresh
foods I should say, like fruits, vegetables, meats, and seafood
meals eaten outside the home like those at restaurant. Also
not included in this assessment, but households with substantial purchases
at dollar stores had an h EI score healthy Eating
Index of forty six point three, very similar to those
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of forty eight point two with moderate purchases and fifty
point five score of those with no purchases at dollar stores.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Hey, elmur, If I was going to get into the
Greek world learn about people like Perseus and his abs
and things like that, what's like a good starter book
for me to get into Greek mythology?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Ah, I am the worst.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
I can not recommend you any books because I am.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, that's all right. Your knowledge was thanks. That was
wonderful right on the spot like that. I was incredible.
I want to be like that. That's why I'm asking
the book.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
The Song of Achilles is supposed to be really good.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, ordering, Yeah, ordered, I am now an expert.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
All right, it'll be here by six pm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Stay tuned for Greek mythology when we come back. There
is a problem that continues to develop in the sports world,
athletes being stalked. They don't talk about it very much,
but if you remember, Monica Selis just got back in
the headlines, she has an autoimmune disorder.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I think it was in the Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But remember when she was stabbed in the back by
that crazy guy like Ennis tournament nineties. Right, Yeah, we'll
talk about stalkers in this escalating problem with sports. By
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Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, and True Crime Tuesday Ahead two disappearance on the seas.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
What Happened to Amy Bradley?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is the subject of a very popular documentary on Netflix,
Amy Bradley Is Missing, and it's a three pot part docuseries.
And I had no memory of the disappearance of Amy Bradley.
Happened in March nineteen ninety eight aboard a Caribbean cruise
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Royal Caribbean with her family and it is a good documentary.
It does kind of take the cruise ship industry to task.
It was a rough go for the cruise ship industry
in July with the Poop Cruise getting the docuseries treatment
and then the disappearance of a young girl, Amy Bradley,
getting the treatment as well. I wonder if it took
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a knock if cruise sales took a knock, because those
were both wildly popular documentaries that everybody watched.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think people are after COVID, people really wanted to
go back cruising. So I don't think it's going to
It's going to take more than that for that to
make a dont.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Is that right? It was the post COVID bump.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, you know, I wasn't a COVID alarmist, but if anything,
it made me not want to get on a.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Cruise shot, right, you know what? Well, I mean some
of the first one of the first interviews we did
with somebody that we knew that had tested positive for COVID,
with somebody who was caught on one of those cruisers.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Like, I've cruised before.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I've gone on a number of cruises and I've never
thought about really germs before, and then COVID hit and
you're so germ centric and you're thinking that, you know now,
I'm like, oh man, those are dirty little vessels.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Of Internationally, Ukrainian President Zelenski says that President Putin of
Russia wants Ukraine to withdraw from the remaining thirty of
the Donetsk Donetsk region that Ukraine controls, part of a
ceasefire deal that he thinks is going to be floated
this week. Zelensky reiterated that Ukraine would not withdraw from
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territories it controls because it is unconstitutional and would only
serve as a springboard for future Russian invasion. We know
that Putin and Trump are getting together on Friday of
this week. The White House announced to a couple hours
ago that in fact, that meeting is going to be
taking place in Anchorage, Alaska. If you remember nineteen ninety four,
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that was when tennis player Monica Sellis was stabbed during
a match by a fan who was obsessed not with her,
but with her opponent in that match, Steffi Graff, and
more American athletes. She wasn't American, but she more American
athletes than celebrities have been stalked and attacked in the
last decade than in all previous US history. Part of
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that maybe record keeping, I'm not sure we called it
that back in the forties and fifties and sixties, when
you know Hollywood starlets would be accosted by people on
the streets. But in this case, we have an alarming
problem going on with male and female athletes both being
stalked by people. Igoswya Tech, Julia Pudden Sineva said it wrong,
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Emily Radikanyu dealing with stalking incidents. Those are all tennis players,
Caitlin Clark, Paige Buchers.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Why now, Sophie Cunningham.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Because I mean, there's so many more stars, right, Like
you brought up Hollywood starlets when the only famous people
were movie stars and sports heroes, right, and now I
feel like everyone's a star with social media, you know, Instagram,
influencers and everything seems like everyone's got, you know, their
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clout factor. And so why now are our people taking
their love of athletes or whatever to the next level.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think part of it is because there was a
propensity for it to exist in the past. But now
because you think you know so much more about them,
maybe maybe you don't have to be a level ten
stalker to actually go find someone. Maybe you only have
to be a level six because of all the information
that's available about Okay, as an example, it's terrifying. Aaron
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Donald for the La Rams another guy who was a
victim of a stalker. It's hard to think of a
guy like that as a victim, but a woman harassed
and stalked him and his family for years.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Former NFL player TJ.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Hushmanzada was stalked by a woman with bizarre and extreme obsession.
She changed her LAS name to Hushman Zada, which is
hard to do, and then used it to get access
to the gated community where his family lives.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
That's actually comical, I mean not for him.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But my line.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, well, that was that was that was like
that name was like the biggest hardest name to wrap
your head around for a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Someone Isles Livvy Dunn have been targeted. Track at the
Track athlete Gabby Thomas, Lolo Jones, etc.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Had someone break into her training facility.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And the way that this starts out actually from the
New York Times is I guess a snapshot of a
modern version of this stalking. Latier Thaw, nineteen year old
guy used to live in Washington, d C. Saw a
picture of Keiki Rice on Instagram. She's a UCLA women's
basketball player, sees interviews of her on YouTube and says
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he feels something magnetic between them that she reminds him
of a character from Avatar The Last Airbender. He sends
her dozens of unanswered messages on social media. He changes
the background screen on his phone to a picture of her.
Mid December of twenty three, he flies to La Rense,
a u haul sleeps in the back of it near
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the UCLA campus. On several occasions, he stands out the
outside the women's basketball practic facility waiting for her. One day,
he sits on a bench for hours alongside a glass
vase of white and red roses and a handwritten card
that says, Kiki Carrol Rice, Once upon a time you
caught my sight through a life full of strife.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You got me through the night.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I want to do something cosmic with you that will
be enough till the end of time. At poly Pavilion
December of that year, she feels like she's being watched
while she's warming up.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh my god, and it was that.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Guy in the second row standing up wearing a full suit.
UCLA eventually banned him from all facilities and events, but
he's been arrested because he tried to get in through
other games, and he gets charged with arrested in charged
with stalking and two counts of resisting a police officer.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Page Bucker same thing had a guy, a forty year
old from Oregon that became fixated on her when she
was a senior Yukon. If I cannot live with this
woman of my choosing, I will choose to die, and
I will choose to take all of you that pose
me a pose us to hell and return king I
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love you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Online fan accounts began tagging her in an attempt to
warn her of this whack job. That's a good thing.
Sometimes those fan accounts police themselves well.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I go back to what I said earlier, were
talking about the Brad Pitt break in and everybody's description
and pictures of his home. Those are not hard to find. Yeah,
if you know how to use the internet, which is
pretty much everybody now, it does not take a lot
of extra effort and energy to nail down exactly where
your favorite stock e might live.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And that's a little terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Coming up next inside the terrifying mystery of a young
woman who disappeared on a cruise ship. Was it an
accident or a crime? It's been twenty seven years, but
a new docu mentory may mean new leads. I'm trying
to sound like Keith Morrison. Is it working?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
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I've never been more hugry for.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Almost a dozen hot dogs ever.
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Find he gonna go nowhere.
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see radio app. President Trump has activated eight hundred National
Guard members to address what he says is a crime
emergency in Washington, d C. The mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser,
has pledged to cooperate, but says that her police chief
is still in charge. Of course, the president Yesterday's sighted
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rising crime. City officials have said crime rates are declining.
This law that Trump the executive order that he signed,
and existing law allows the president to control the police
from up to thirty days, but extending that would require
approval of Congress, So we'll see how that goes. Yet
another day has gone by and Republican leaders in Texas's
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House so they are prepared to end their talemate over
their legislative special session and the immediately begin another standoff
with Democrats over the redistricting issue.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
That's going on there in Austin.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It is time for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Sure the story is true.
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True, No, it sounds made up. I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Guy, Garry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Do we know?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I feel like we know that guy.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
The guy who says sound's true. Yeah, that's an actor.
Oh is it?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, like from a show.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
It's from. His name is Stephen Root.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah. He was in King of the Hills.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
A voice on King of the Hill, the Boss and
news radio Didjever Watson?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
He was in office space, he.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Was in office space.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Guy with the statement, oh Milton, Yeah, that's Milton. Yeah, No,
it's not okay, you know what you are. What does
your mug say? Practical, practical and wise?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
No, I don't know if I don't think it's it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Does say wise. I've been attributing that to you for
the past thirty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Discipline, patient, ambition. It does say wise. Ye, you're right wise.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
The disappearance of a young woman from her cruise ships
stateroom nearly twenty seven years ago continues to baffle investigators,
and it is the topic of a new documentary on Netflix.
Very popular. If you're into the true crime genre. You
have watched this, you have watched Amy Bradley is Missing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I found it interesting for a number of reasons.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It kind of lets you you into behind the closed
doors of the cruise ship industry, kind of like when
you get to see behind the doors of Disneyland. You
know sometimes circ in nineteen ninety five, you steal a
keychain from the star Trader and you get to go
behind the walls of Disneyland, and it is weird. It's
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like when the lights come on after a failure on
Space Mountain. There's certain things you don't want to see,
like the inside of Disneyland, into the cell and.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You also, I would argue, do not want to see.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What goes on inside the walls of a cruise ship.
Just take what they give you and leave it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
At that, right, don't get too curious.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But it did get a little bit inside baseball in
this documentary and it was fascinating. It was March nineteen
ninety eight when Amy Bradley was with her family on
this Royal Caribbean cruise. And what I also thought was
interesting is the four of them stayed in the same room,
and Amy Bradley and her brother were both older she
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was twenty three. I think he was older as well,
maybe twenty one something like that.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And she stayed in the same room with mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Stay in the same room with mom and dad, which
is is close quarters. But the fact that she would
go missing is what I found interesting. Now that they
all stay in the same room, it happens all the time,
but that she would go missing from that state room because,
as the story goes, her parents went to bed in
that room, her brother. She and her brother had gone
out to the discotheque or whatever that night, like you're
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like you do on a cruise ship as a young adult.
And then they were out on the balcony and smoking
cigarettes or whatever and talking.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And then she goes to sleep.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
On that chase lounge out there on the balcony, like
you do sometimes on a cruise ship. It's warm, you're
in the Caribbean, it's kind of cool. It's a novelty
to sleep outside or whatever, at least for a little while.
And that's what happened with her. And then she's just
missing from that Shay's lounge.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, okay, so it was like you said, she'd gone
out dancing with the brother and some other passengers, et cetera,
and dad was the last one to see her. He
saw her sleeping on the balcony somewhere between five fifteen
and five thirty in the morning of March twenty fourth,
But by six o'clock she was gone, and all she'd
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really taken with her her lighter, inner cigarettes, and that's it.
She left her shoes behind too.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Now, one of in the lighter in the cigarettes. If
you were a smoker, you know that there was a
chance you would leave your lighter tucked into your cigarette
packet on the balcony. If you're out there smoking, it's
totally plausible that you would take your back your pack
and the lighter tucked in there, and you leave it
on the balcony, and then it would go overboard.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
One of the theories was that she went overboard, to
which I say, that doesn't hold water for me, because
if she came back and yes, she had been drinking,
everyone had been drinking.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
You're on the cruise ship.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Her brother says, Yeah, it was clear that we had
all been drinking, but that she wasn't drunk to the
point of following over the cruise ship ps. Her dad
saw her sleeping at five am. She was sleeping off
whatever buzz she had. You don't wake up from sleeping
it off and then just.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Fall over and you're still hammered, exactly, So at least
some progression of your.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Especially at five dirty am.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Right, They obviously did a search.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
They interviewed people.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Some people said that they saw her on what they
believed was the top deck or one of the upper decks.
Others had said she may have been with a crew
member at the time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now, the crew member was a guy who played I
believe bass in the band, and he was known for
being nice to the people on the boat, particularly females,
and if you asked him, it was part of his appeal.
Part of his gig is you talk to the customers.
It's kind of like dirty dancing. You know, you want
to make the people happy. You know, you talk to them,
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you dance with them, the whole bit.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Your job is one thousand percent customer service. Right after
her disappearance, is.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That what you were thinking when you put on that
mesh top that showed your nipples at the handle show
all those years ago, that you were just doing it
for the people, for the customer experience.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I have to figure out what the people want and
then try to give it to them as good as
I can.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And that night you thought they wanted your nipples.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I didn't hear a lot of disagreements from the crowd.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Stuff just came out of my ken.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Keep doing that, you're.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Gonna blow your nose out. Okay, Now there's weird stuff
that's going on. The family asked that the ship not
put down its gangp like, don't let anybody leave this
ship until we can find out what happened to Amy
or somebody who knows. And they were like, guys, we
got a couple thousand people here and they all want
to go to Kurrasu.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Right, and its cases a money making operation, Like we're
talking about a twenty three year old girl who probably
hooked up with somebody drank too much.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Is in another part of this ship we're docking.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Okay, Well, there's a couple things. Her family believes she's
alive and something happened just before they went on this
cruise too that some people are pointing to the reason
why if she did commit suicide, this is why she
did it?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And is it because of another girl?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
True Crime Tuesday continues.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
On our True Crime Tuesday, We're talking about the disappearance
of twenty three year old Amy Bradley. She's on a
Caribbean cruise with her family, her her brother and her parents,
and she vanished without a trace, very early on the
morning March twenty fourth, nineteen ninety eight, twenty seven years ago. Now,
among other things, her parents believe that she is still alive.
(25:57):
There are a couple of distinguishing characteristics about her. You know,
she's probably run of the mill in terms of height, weight,
hair color, eye color, stuff like that. But she has tattoos.
She has four different tattoos. And there is a Canadian
(26:18):
tourist who said that in August of ninety eight, several
months after her disappearance, he saw what he believed was
Amy Bradley and Kiraseu flanked by a couple of people
on the beach, and that as he got closer, she
pointed to her tattoos and that matched all of the
tattoos that Amy Bradley had. Authorities did search the area,
(26:39):
they couldn't find any any sign of her. January of
ninety nine, a Navy petty officer reportedly visited a brothel
in Currasow and said a woman told her her name
was Amy Bradley and asked for help. And he told
her there was a navy ship about five minutes away,
but she said, you don't understand. My name is Amy Bradley.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He said in the documentary Listen. I was close to
her retirement. I didn't want to ruin anything. I didn't
want to ruin that tour. I want to just get
involved and get the hell out of bed by admitting
that he had been in a brothel.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
All of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
September two thousand and five, an anonymous source sent the
Bradley's online photos of a woman named Jazz, who they
claimed was their daughter. They had forensic A detective analyzed
the photos allegedly said it was a perfect match for Amy,
but they weren't able to pinpoint the IP address, and
the FBI still does not have any evidence to detain
or charge anyone with kidnapping, so.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The pictures too.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
There are pictures on websites where women are bought and
sold for sex, things where the likeness is her face.
And Ali was just texting me, you know Ali, Yeah,
she says she just watched it yesterday. She said she
definitely thinks she was trafficked. Too many convincing sightings. But
one of the things about Amy Bradley that they really
(27:55):
make clear in the documentary is this was a very
strong willed young woman. She was athletic. She was five six,
which is not tall, but she wasn't short. She was athletic.
She was I don't remember it was it basketball or so,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
She was also strong willed. She was somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, I'm not saying that people who are trafficked
are not, but she was somebody who you know, if
you were to take her at would be difficult. She
was gonna put up a fight and then and then
so I texted Alley back. So they just kept her drugged,
because that's the only way I can imagine somebody with
that kind of strong personality staying in a traffic situation
for twenty seven years or what have you, not going
(28:37):
back to the family that she was close with.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's just odd to me. It's just.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, and as Ali pointed out, well, that's like
one of the things they tell you that they'll kill
your family, like you have to say here.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's not just.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You, you know, but like there's got to be a
point where you get to be you know, she was
twenty three at the time.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You get to be thirty, you get to be thirty five.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The internet's running around all the things that you know,
all of that kind of wears off those threats that
may have worked when you were younger.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Wear off.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
One of the and then you do age out of
the trafficking system.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
One of the clues about this, well.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You do you know, people aren't paying top dollar for
forty year old.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
One potential nugget in this that may point to suicide
is that she had a relationship breakdown.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yes, just before they left on this cruise.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
She confessed to her then girlfriend a couple of months
before they left that she had kissed another woman while
both of them had been drinking, and the girlfriend stopped
taking Amy's calls. So Amy wrote this note to her
just a couple of weeks before they went on this
Caribbean cruise, and said that she sent her Amy sent
(29:53):
this girlfriend a message in a bottle, not literally, but
what amounted to a message in a bottle express remorse.
Who's a handwritten letter? It said, Molly I hurt you
deeper than you can ever forget, she said. I'm not
asking you to forget, because that'll never happen again. I
just wanted to ask if you could find it in
your heart to forgive me.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
There's a lot of allegory, if I remember correctly, in
that letter, about being a port in a storm or something,
you know, that kind of a thing. Or I'm lost
at sea until you take me back, some stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
She wrote in this letter, I feel like there is
an ocean between us, like I'm on a desert island
waiting for you to rescue me. A message in a
bottle my only hope. I miss you, Molly. I miss you, Molly,
and then it said save me please. Stranded Comma Amy.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
One reason another reason to be a lesbian. I mean,
that's effort, right. You get a guy who kisses another girl.
He's not going to go through all that trouble of
writing all those beautiful things, getting a message in a
bottle and making it poetic like that.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He's moved on.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Women they take the time to write their wrongs hurt you, no,
but you know what I mean, Like what a sweet
gesture like she did the whole message in a bottle.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
In fact, the most heartbreaking inner.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I don't think it was literally a message in her
It was handwritten.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
She put it in a bottle.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
She did.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Oh, then the whole stranded thing makes more sense. Yeah,
I thought it was just she was writing it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It was like a brand like effort.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Well, guys would never do that, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But it was the most heartbreaking interview of the whole
series of this woman who's now this grown woman.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And that was the girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, and you can tell it was like this true
love and she's like I can feel her with me,
like it was it like rips your heart out kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It was really good. Sad good.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Amy Bradley is Missing is the name of the documentary
on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah. You never give a girl a message in a
bottle after you cheat an honor.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Nope, no, no, never have because you would never cheat
on anyone.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I didn't say that. I just said I never did.
Stoop solo is to put a message in a bottle.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Wow, remember my filling uplifted bird flowers, pansy or not, carnations,
we don't figure it out right, I take a pansy
over a carnation.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
John Cobalt Show is up next.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Don't forget Poosh on with Conway at four o'clock today
as well.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We'll see you tomorrow. Stay drive, everybody, blessings.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
You didn't even warn me today.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You didn't see you coming. You are so hyped up
on your new coffee bags.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I was hyped up on my new coffee on you
having the pansy being your birth.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Flower, which it's not. I decided it's not.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I was hyped up on on on the aliens coming
with their probe and ending all of us and dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You also suck down four packs of Pez two two packs?
Is there more left than the pez?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's loaded with lemon right now, because I think that. Yeah,
here's a weird story.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The average American household is more than one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Mortgages.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Also because mortgages account for more than two thirds of that,
because sometimes it makes sense to not pay off your
mortgage if you got a great interest rate.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Of people still do form.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
A couple of years ago, wallet hub said that the
nation's total household debt reached eighteen point three nine trillion
second quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Of this year.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
When you break that down, it's about one hundred and
fifty two thousand each. The inflation adjusted record for average
household debt, though, is not that much higher. It's one
hundred and sixty six thousand that was recorded during the
fourth quarter of two thousand and eight. Of course, the
markets were in turmoil then, so that's just all just
pay your bills.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What else is going on?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Time four? What's happening?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well? The man who opened fire at the CDC headquarters
last week, killing a police officer did die by suicide.
According to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, thirty year old
Patrick Joseph White died from suicide self inflicted gunshot. Woond
fired nearly two hundred rounds of AMMO.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
At the headquarters.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Authorities recovered five guns or five hundred shell casings from
the same The five weapons belonged to his father and
were securely stored before the shooter forced his way into
the safe that contained them.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
People are upset at Health and Human Service to Secretary
RFK Junior because they said he also has denounced the
COVID nineteen vaccines, which is a.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Strange twist in logic. Why would.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Why would RFK Junior be the one that you'd be
mad at if he oversees the buildings that were shot at.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
As I understand it. Not like you can ascribe any
sort of logic to something like this. But this was
a guy who had problems with the COVID vaccination.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Right he claims that they were the ones.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh so they're saying that RFK Junior's anti vax status
propelled this guy to shoot up the building and it
added gasoline to the fire.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That was this guy is. I guess what their thought process,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
He said the COVID nineteen vaccine made him depressed and suicidal.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Neighbors had said that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
He also apparently left some documentation that expressed his discontent
with the COVID vaccines. Guy wanted for murder in Washington
State now could be here in southern California. They found
his car in Calabasas, but he said he stabbed two people,
seventy three year old and the sister in law, sixty
four year old Don Peters.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
The sixty four year old, she's the one who died.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This happened last Tuesday, just before noon at the family's.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Home in Longview.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Long Longview's right across the river from Portland. I believe
so it's southern Washington State. The captain of the Longview
Police Department said, this is horrific. As far as we
can tell, he was acquainted with them through an old
family connection and may have been doing some handyman work
at the house for them over the last few months,
so that's how he knew of them before he stabbed them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I love a meteor shower, and it's finally time to
watch one of the best meteor showers of the year,
the brilliant display known as the Perseods. Perseods, you're so knowledgeable,
wise and practical, practical, I don't even have my comin.
The Percied meteor shower is known for producing dozens of
(04:19):
bright meteors that have that leave long streaks in their wake.
And it's set to peak at four pm Eastern Time Tuesday,
so in about an hour hour.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
In previous years, this thing would produce about forty to
fifty visible meteors an hour.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
How are you supposed to see it in the daylight? Uh,
you're not well?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Then?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What the hell is the point?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The Persed meteor shower will peak Friday night into Saturday morning,
a long streaks set the PC media shower set to
peak at four pm Tuesday. The Persied meteor shower peaks
Friday night. This is one story, and I'm reading two
different versions of it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's ai.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You can see it between dusk and moon rise of
the evening of August twelfth. Tonight, there's gonna be a
one hour gap before the moon rises, so that's when
they see it.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So tonight, Tonight's tonight, guys, let's all get out there.
We're gonna find some community together looking at the perseedge.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
For us, it's after eleven and before three like after
eleven at night, before three am is when we are
expected to be able to see it well, depending on
where you are and what kind of light pollution you
have around there. Dollars Perseus. He was the guy. He
was that one guy, Greek.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Hero obviously, But what did he do? Oh, here's a
naked picture of my god. He's got definition in his abs. God,
look at this, Look at this, Look at the muscle, definition.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Cut off the head of Medusa's Damn right, I freezed
a titan, I think, or the Kraken.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You are good? Did you learn this from that show?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I really like Greek mythology.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You did it start with Percy Jackson the books.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Uh no, that was Uh, Percy Jackson came after that.
I mean after you fell in love exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, Perseus, Wow, that's pretty cool. That's not an actual
picture of him. I'm not still looking at the picture.
I'm reading his credentials.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Uh huh, you're reading his abs.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, I mean they're substantial, they're not. What do you
mean they're not?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
You don't know what he looked like.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I'm looking at the statue of actual Perseus right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Dollar store food shopping is not making you fat. Dollar
store food shopping is not making you fat. Researchers from
Tufts University in Boston analyzed more than a decade of
household food purchasing data between twenty eight and twenty twenty,
and they said that dollar stores now account for about
(07:10):
six and a half percent of household calories, double what
they were back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
He saved his wife from a sea monster.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
They said that there are still fresh foods like fresh
foods I should say, like fruits, vegetables, meats, and seafood
meals eaten outside the home like those at restaurant. Also
not included in this assessment, but households with substantial purchases
at dollar stores had an h EI score healthy Eating
Index of forty six point three, very similar to those
(07:40):
of forty eight point two with moderate purchases and fifty
point five score of those with no purchases at dollar stores.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Hey, elmur, If I was going to get into the
Greek world learn about people like Perseus and his abs
and things like that, what's like a good starter book
for me to get into Greek mythology?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Ah, I am the worst.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
I can not recommend you any books because I am.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, that's all right. Your knowledge was thanks. That was
wonderful right on the spot like that. I was incredible.
I want to be like that. That's why I'm asking
the book.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
The Song of Achilles is supposed to be really good.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, ordering, Yeah, ordered, I am now an expert.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
All right, it'll be here by six pm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Stay tuned for Greek mythology when we come back. There
is a problem that continues to develop in the sports world,
athletes being stalked. They don't talk about it very much,
but if you remember, Monica Selis just got back in
the headlines, she has an autoimmune disorder.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I think it was in the Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But remember when she was stabbed in the back by
that crazy guy like Ennis tournament nineties. Right, Yeah, we'll
talk about stalkers in this escalating problem with sports. By
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Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, and True Crime Tuesday Ahead two disappearance on the seas.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
What Happened to Amy Bradley?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is the subject of a very popular documentary on Netflix,
Amy Bradley Is Missing, and it's a three pot part docuseries.
And I had no memory of the disappearance of Amy Bradley.
Happened in March nineteen ninety eight aboard a Caribbean cruise
(09:43):
Royal Caribbean with her family and it is a good documentary.
It does kind of take the cruise ship industry to task.
It was a rough go for the cruise ship industry
in July with the Poop Cruise getting the docuseries treatment
and then the disappearance of a young girl, Amy Bradley,
getting the treatment as well. I wonder if it took
(10:06):
a knock if cruise sales took a knock, because those
were both wildly popular documentaries that everybody watched.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think people are after COVID, people really wanted to
go back cruising. So I don't think it's going to
It's going to take more than that for that to
make a dont.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Is that right? It was the post COVID bump.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, you know, I wasn't a COVID alarmist, but if anything,
it made me not want to get on a.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Cruise shot, right, you know what? Well, I mean some
of the first one of the first interviews we did
with somebody that we knew that had tested positive for COVID,
with somebody who was caught on one of those cruisers.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Like, I've cruised before.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I've gone on a number of cruises and I've never
thought about really germs before, and then COVID hit and
you're so germ centric and you're thinking that, you know now,
I'm like, oh man, those are dirty little vessels.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Of Internationally, Ukrainian President Zelenski says that President Putin of
Russia wants Ukraine to withdraw from the remaining thirty of
the Donetsk Donetsk region that Ukraine controls, part of a
ceasefire deal that he thinks is going to be floated
this week. Zelensky reiterated that Ukraine would not withdraw from
(11:11):
territories it controls because it is unconstitutional and would only
serve as a springboard for future Russian invasion. We know
that Putin and Trump are getting together on Friday of
this week. The White House announced to a couple hours
ago that in fact, that meeting is going to be
taking place in Anchorage, Alaska. If you remember nineteen ninety four,
(11:34):
that was when tennis player Monica Sellis was stabbed during
a match by a fan who was obsessed not with her,
but with her opponent in that match, Steffi Graff, and
more American athletes. She wasn't American, but she more American
athletes than celebrities have been stalked and attacked in the
last decade than in all previous US history. Part of
(11:58):
that maybe record keeping, I'm not sure we called it
that back in the forties and fifties and sixties, when
you know Hollywood starlets would be accosted by people on
the streets. But in this case, we have an alarming
problem going on with male and female athletes both being
stalked by people. Igoswya Tech, Julia Pudden Sineva said it wrong,
(12:21):
Emily Radikanyu dealing with stalking incidents. Those are all tennis players,
Caitlin Clark, Paige Buchers.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Why now, Sophie Cunningham.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Because I mean, there's so many more stars, right, Like
you brought up Hollywood starlets when the only famous people
were movie stars and sports heroes, right, and now I
feel like everyone's a star with social media, you know, Instagram,
influencers and everything seems like everyone's got, you know, their
(12:51):
clout factor. And so why now are our people taking
their love of athletes or whatever to the next level.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think part of it is because there was a
propensity for it to exist in the past. But now
because you think you know so much more about them,
maybe maybe you don't have to be a level ten
stalker to actually go find someone. Maybe you only have
to be a level six because of all the information
that's available about Okay, as an example, it's terrifying. Aaron
(13:21):
Donald for the La Rams another guy who was a
victim of a stalker. It's hard to think of a
guy like that as a victim, but a woman harassed
and stalked him and his family for years.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Former NFL player TJ.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Hushmanzada was stalked by a woman with bizarre and extreme obsession.
She changed her LAS name to Hushman Zada, which is
hard to do, and then used it to get access
to the gated community where his family lives.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
That's actually comical, I mean not for him.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But my line.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, well, that was that was that was like
that name was like the biggest hardest name to wrap
your head around for a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Someone Isles Livvy Dunn have been targeted. Track at the
Track athlete Gabby Thomas, Lolo Jones, etc.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Had someone break into her training facility.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And the way that this starts out actually from the
New York Times is I guess a snapshot of a
modern version of this stalking. Latier Thaw, nineteen year old
guy used to live in Washington, d C. Saw a
picture of Keiki Rice on Instagram. She's a UCLA women's
basketball player, sees interviews of her on YouTube and says
(14:31):
he feels something magnetic between them that she reminds him
of a character from Avatar The Last Airbender. He sends
her dozens of unanswered messages on social media. He changes
the background screen on his phone to a picture of her.
Mid December of twenty three, he flies to La Rense,
a u haul sleeps in the back of it near
(14:54):
the UCLA campus. On several occasions, he stands out the
outside the women's basketball practic facility waiting for her. One day,
he sits on a bench for hours alongside a glass
vase of white and red roses and a handwritten card
that says, Kiki Carrol Rice, Once upon a time you
caught my sight through a life full of strife.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
You got me through the night.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I want to do something cosmic with you that will
be enough till the end of time. At poly Pavilion
December of that year, she feels like she's being watched
while she's warming up.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh my god, and it was that.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Guy in the second row standing up wearing a full suit.
UCLA eventually banned him from all facilities and events, but
he's been arrested because he tried to get in through
other games, and he gets charged with arrested in charged
with stalking and two counts of resisting a police officer.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Page Bucker same thing had a guy, a forty year
old from Oregon that became fixated on her when she
was a senior Yukon. If I cannot live with this
woman of my choosing, I will choose to die, and
I will choose to take all of you that pose
me a pose us to hell and return king I
(16:08):
love you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Online fan accounts began tagging her in an attempt to
warn her of this whack job. That's a good thing.
Sometimes those fan accounts police themselves well.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I go back to what I said earlier, were
talking about the Brad Pitt break in and everybody's description
and pictures of his home. Those are not hard to find. Yeah,
if you know how to use the internet, which is
pretty much everybody now, it does not take a lot
of extra effort and energy to nail down exactly where
your favorite stock e might live.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And that's a little terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Coming up next inside the terrifying mystery of a young
woman who disappeared on a cruise ship. Was it an
accident or a crime? It's been twenty seven years, but
a new docu mentory may mean new leads. I'm trying
to sound like Keith Morrison. Is it working?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
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Speaker 4 (17:23):
Almost a dozen hot dogs ever.
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Find he gonna go nowhere.
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see radio app. President Trump has activated eight hundred National
Guard members to address what he says is a crime
emergency in Washington, d C. The mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser,
has pledged to cooperate, but says that her police chief
is still in charge. Of course, the president Yesterday's sighted
(17:50):
rising crime. City officials have said crime rates are declining.
This law that Trump the executive order that he signed,
and existing law allows the president to control the police
from up to thirty days, but extending that would require
approval of Congress, So we'll see how that goes. Yet
another day has gone by and Republican leaders in Texas's
(18:11):
House so they are prepared to end their talemate over
their legislative special session and the immediately begin another standoff
with Democrats over the redistricting issue.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
That's going on there in Austin.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It is time for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Sure the story is true.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
True, No, it sounds made up. I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Guy, Garry and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Do we know?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I feel like we know that guy.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
The guy who says sound's true. Yeah, that's an actor.
Oh is it?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, like from a show.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
It's from. His name is Stephen Root.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah. He was in King of the Hills.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
A voice on King of the Hill, the Boss and
news radio Didjever Watson?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
He was in office space, he.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Was in office space.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Guy with the statement, oh Milton, Yeah, that's Milton. Yeah, No,
it's not okay, you know what you are. What does
your mug say? Practical, practical and wise?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
No, I don't know if I don't think it's it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Does say wise. I've been attributing that to you for
the past thirty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Discipline, patient, ambition. It does say wise. Ye, you're right wise.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
The disappearance of a young woman from her cruise ships
stateroom nearly twenty seven years ago continues to baffle investigators,
and it is the topic of a new documentary on Netflix.
Very popular. If you're into the true crime genre. You
have watched this, you have watched Amy Bradley is Missing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I found it interesting for a number of reasons.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It kind of lets you you into behind the closed
doors of the cruise ship industry, kind of like when
you get to see behind the doors of Disneyland. You
know sometimes circ in nineteen ninety five, you steal a
keychain from the star Trader and you get to go
behind the walls of Disneyland, and it is weird. It's
(20:20):
like when the lights come on after a failure on
Space Mountain. There's certain things you don't want to see,
like the inside of Disneyland, into the cell and.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You also, I would argue, do not want to see.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What goes on inside the walls of a cruise ship.
Just take what they give you and leave it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
At that, right, don't get too curious.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But it did get a little bit inside baseball in
this documentary and it was fascinating. It was March nineteen
ninety eight when Amy Bradley was with her family on
this Royal Caribbean cruise. And what I also thought was
interesting is the four of them stayed in the same room,
and Amy Bradley and her brother were both older she
(21:04):
was twenty three. I think he was older as well,
maybe twenty one something like that.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And she stayed in the same room with mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Stay in the same room with mom and dad, which
is is close quarters. But the fact that she would
go missing is what I found interesting. Now that they
all stay in the same room, it happens all the time,
but that she would go missing from that state room because,
as the story goes, her parents went to bed in
that room, her brother. She and her brother had gone
out to the discotheque or whatever that night, like you're
(21:32):
like you do on a cruise ship as a young adult.
And then they were out on the balcony and smoking
cigarettes or whatever and talking.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And then she goes to sleep.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
On that chase lounge out there on the balcony, like
you do sometimes on a cruise ship. It's warm, you're
in the Caribbean, it's kind of cool. It's a novelty
to sleep outside or whatever, at least for a little while.
And that's what happened with her. And then she's just
missing from that Shay's lounge.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, okay, so it was like you said, she'd gone
out dancing with the brother and some other passengers, et cetera,
and dad was the last one to see her. He
saw her sleeping on the balcony somewhere between five fifteen
and five thirty in the morning of March twenty fourth,
But by six o'clock she was gone, and all she'd
(22:19):
really taken with her her lighter, inner cigarettes, and that's it.
She left her shoes behind too.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Now, one of in the lighter in the cigarettes. If
you were a smoker, you know that there was a
chance you would leave your lighter tucked into your cigarette
packet on the balcony. If you're out there smoking, it's
totally plausible that you would take your back your pack
and the lighter tucked in there, and you leave it
on the balcony, and then it would go overboard.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
One of the theories was that she went overboard, to
which I say, that doesn't hold water for me, because
if she came back and yes, she had been drinking,
everyone had been drinking.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
You're on the cruise ship.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Her brother says, Yeah, it was clear that we had
all been drinking, but that she wasn't drunk to the
point of following over the cruise ship ps. Her dad
saw her sleeping at five am. She was sleeping off
whatever buzz she had. You don't wake up from sleeping
it off and then just.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Fall over and you're still hammered, exactly, So at least
some progression of your.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Especially at five dirty am.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Right, They obviously did a search.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
They interviewed people.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Some people said that they saw her on what they
believed was the top deck or one of the upper decks.
Others had said she may have been with a crew
member at the time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now, the crew member was a guy who played I
believe bass in the band, and he was known for
being nice to the people on the boat, particularly females,
and if you asked him, it was part of his appeal.
Part of his gig is you talk to the customers.
It's kind of like dirty dancing. You know, you want
to make the people happy. You know, you talk to them,
(23:52):
you dance with them, the whole bit.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Your job is one thousand percent customer service. Right after
her disappearance, is.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That what you were thinking when you put on that
mesh top that showed your nipples at the handle show
all those years ago, that you were just doing it
for the people, for the customer experience.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I have to figure out what the people want and
then try to give it to them as good as
I can.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And that night you thought they wanted your nipples.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I didn't hear a lot of disagreements from the crowd.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Stuff just came out of my ken.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Keep doing that, you're.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Gonna blow your nose out. Okay, Now there's weird stuff
that's going on. The family asked that the ship not
put down its gangp like, don't let anybody leave this
ship until we can find out what happened to Amy
or somebody who knows. And they were like, guys, we
got a couple thousand people here and they all want
to go to Kurrasu.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Right, and its cases a money making operation, Like we're
talking about a twenty three year old girl who probably
hooked up with somebody drank too much.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Is in another part of this ship we're docking.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Okay, Well, there's a couple things. Her family believes she's
alive and something happened just before they went on this
cruise too that some people are pointing to the reason
why if she did commit suicide, this is why she
did it?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And is it because of another girl?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
True Crime Tuesday continues.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
On our True Crime Tuesday, We're talking about the disappearance
of twenty three year old Amy Bradley. She's on a
Caribbean cruise with her family, her her brother and her parents,
and she vanished without a trace, very early on the
morning March twenty fourth, nineteen ninety eight, twenty seven years ago. Now,
among other things, her parents believe that she is still alive.
(25:57):
There are a couple of distinguishing characteristics about her. You know,
she's probably run of the mill in terms of height, weight,
hair color, eye color, stuff like that. But she has tattoos.
She has four different tattoos. And there is a Canadian
(26:18):
tourist who said that in August of ninety eight, several
months after her disappearance, he saw what he believed was
Amy Bradley and Kiraseu flanked by a couple of people
on the beach, and that as he got closer, she
pointed to her tattoos and that matched all of the
tattoos that Amy Bradley had. Authorities did search the area,
(26:39):
they couldn't find any any sign of her. January of
ninety nine, a Navy petty officer reportedly visited a brothel
in Currasow and said a woman told her her name
was Amy Bradley and asked for help. And he told
her there was a navy ship about five minutes away,
but she said, you don't understand. My name is Amy Bradley.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He said in the documentary Listen. I was close to
her retirement. I didn't want to ruin anything. I didn't
want to ruin that tour. I want to just get
involved and get the hell out of bed by admitting
that he had been in a brothel.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
All of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
September two thousand and five, an anonymous source sent the
Bradley's online photos of a woman named Jazz, who they
claimed was their daughter. They had forensic A detective analyzed
the photos allegedly said it was a perfect match for Amy,
but they weren't able to pinpoint the IP address, and
the FBI still does not have any evidence to detain
or charge anyone with kidnapping, so.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The pictures too.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
There are pictures on websites where women are bought and
sold for sex, things where the likeness is her face.
And Ali was just texting me, you know Ali, Yeah,
she says she just watched it yesterday. She said she
definitely thinks she was trafficked. Too many convincing sightings. But
one of the things about Amy Bradley that they really
(27:55):
make clear in the documentary is this was a very
strong willed young woman. She was athletic. She was five six,
which is not tall, but she wasn't short. She was athletic.
She was I don't remember it was it basketball or so,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
She was also strong willed. She was somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, I'm not saying that people who are trafficked
are not, but she was somebody who you know, if
you were to take her at would be difficult. She
was gonna put up a fight and then and then
so I texted Alley back. So they just kept her drugged,
because that's the only way I can imagine somebody with
that kind of strong personality staying in a traffic situation
for twenty seven years or what have you, not going
(28:37):
back to the family that she was close with.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's just odd to me. It's just.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, and as Ali pointed out, well, that's like
one of the things they tell you that they'll kill
your family, like you have to say here.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's not just.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You, you know, but like there's got to be a
point where you get to be you know, she was
twenty three at the time.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You get to be thirty, you get to be thirty five.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The internet's running around all the things that you know,
all of that kind of wears off those threats that
may have worked when you were younger.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Wear off.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
One of the and then you do age out of
the trafficking system.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
One of the clues about this, well.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You do you know, people aren't paying top dollar for
forty year old.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
One potential nugget in this that may point to suicide
is that she had a relationship breakdown.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yes, just before they left on this cruise.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
She confessed to her then girlfriend a couple of months
before they left that she had kissed another woman while
both of them had been drinking, and the girlfriend stopped
taking Amy's calls. So Amy wrote this note to her
just a couple of weeks before they went on this
Caribbean cruise, and said that she sent her Amy sent
(29:53):
this girlfriend a message in a bottle, not literally, but
what amounted to a message in a bottle express remorse.
Who's a handwritten letter? It said, Molly I hurt you
deeper than you can ever forget, she said. I'm not
asking you to forget, because that'll never happen again. I
just wanted to ask if you could find it in
your heart to forgive me.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
There's a lot of allegory, if I remember correctly, in
that letter, about being a port in a storm or something,
you know, that kind of a thing. Or I'm lost
at sea until you take me back, some stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
She wrote in this letter, I feel like there is
an ocean between us, like I'm on a desert island
waiting for you to rescue me. A message in a
bottle my only hope. I miss you, Molly. I miss you, Molly,
and then it said save me please. Stranded Comma Amy.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
One reason another reason to be a lesbian. I mean,
that's effort, right. You get a guy who kisses another girl.
He's not going to go through all that trouble of
writing all those beautiful things, getting a message in a
bottle and making it poetic like that.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He's moved on.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Women they take the time to write their wrongs hurt you, no,
but you know what I mean, Like what a sweet
gesture like she did the whole message in a bottle.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
In fact, the most heartbreaking inner.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I don't think it was literally a message in her
It was handwritten.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
She put it in a bottle.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
She did.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Oh, then the whole stranded thing makes more sense. Yeah,
I thought it was just she was writing it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
It was like a brand like effort.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Well, guys would never do that, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But it was the most heartbreaking interview of the whole
series of this woman who's now this grown woman.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And that was the girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, and you can tell it was like this true
love and she's like I can feel her with me,
like it was it like rips your heart out kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It was really good. Sad good.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Amy Bradley is Missing is the name of the documentary
on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah. You never give a girl a message in a
bottle after you cheat an honor.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Nope, no, no, never have because you would never cheat
on anyone.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I didn't say that. I just said I never did.
Stoop solo is to put a message in a bottle.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Wow, remember my filling uplifted bird flowers, pansy or not, carnations,
we don't figure it out right, I take a pansy
over a carnation.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
John Cobalt Show is up next.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Don't forget Poosh on with Conway at four o'clock today
as well.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We'll see you tomorrow. Stay drive, everybody, blessings.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
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